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Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL Podcast Can't Stop Eating Big Goods.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan has come to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rose with thal

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. What is up, Bullies? What is happening? Another

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Speaker 1: Big Thursday? What's going on? Lots to get to you today.

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Speaker 1: Gotta love Week two? Gotta love Week two? Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing better. And I you know, I am someone who

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Speaker 1: can get caught up in week one just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: But it's important to keep some you know, distance and

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Speaker 1: understand that it's a long season. So anything that went

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Speaker 1: terribly weak one doesn't mean that the season is over

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Speaker 1: because everything could change. All the depressing thoughts you've had

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Speaker 1: about your favorite team over the past five days that

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Speaker 1: could all just disappear with one good performance over three

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Speaker 1: hours on Sunday. I would mean to throw this out too,

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Speaker 1: that there's another scenario where the depressing thoughts attached to

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Speaker 1: your team become deeper and more depressing. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: fall into that O and two trap, and history tells

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Speaker 1: you you're in You're in hot water, especially if you're

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Speaker 1: O in two because you're just functional so you know

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Speaker 1: there's both sides of the coin. Here are you talking

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Speaker 1: about the brands? The week you attack, Dan, this is

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Speaker 1: where you attack if you're if you're into the whole, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, desert situation early in the year, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of like preconceptions people went into with the year,

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Speaker 1: and then you saw a week one and people overreact,

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Speaker 1: you know, things are a little like loosey goosey. In

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Speaker 1: weeks one to three, that's the time to attack. I mean, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you have a problem. I think it's very clear at

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Speaker 1: this point. I hope it's not going to take down

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Speaker 1: your whole family because you've seen it happen in the

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Speaker 1: past and it's sad. I work for the NFL. They

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Speaker 1: they take care of the solution. You know, I am

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Speaker 1: a law abiding NFL. I work for the NFL. They

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Speaker 1: take care of the solution that is that is make

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Speaker 1: the rules that I can't get into it. I can

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Speaker 1: just talk about it, and that actually helps my Sundays

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Speaker 1: um be a lot more relaxed. And there are a

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Speaker 1: series of waivers that we signed to do the jobs

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Speaker 1: that we do in regards to the desert. I know

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Speaker 1: that Dan and I signed the manually I have no

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Speaker 1: There is no proof that Greg has ever put you

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Speaker 1: get those emails if you forget all right, As we

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Speaker 1: do every Thursday, it is our spin through the week

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Speaker 1: ahead over the weekend. On Thursday nights we release our

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football recap of Brown's Bengals. But today we

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Speaker 1: will spin through every game to be played on Sunday

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Speaker 1: and Monday. And as always we do it snake style.

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Speaker 1: Six Uh. We go one to three, three to one,

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Speaker 1: one two three. That's how snake works. And Mark, good

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Speaker 1: news for you, buddy. You have drawn the first pick

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Speaker 1: in the week to draft. Well, you know it's a

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Speaker 1: pre vilege. It's a privilege, you know. In years past,

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Speaker 1: I like to do weird things with the first pick,

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Speaker 1: to throw everyone kind of off their balance. Not this

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Speaker 1: time around. I'm going with I think is what I

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Speaker 1: think is the best game on the board. It is

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Speaker 1: New England at Seattle. Let's not call it something else.

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Speaker 1: This is I don't see that. I don't get this

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch thing with so many, you know, so

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Speaker 1: many characters in other places. Tom Brady's not there, others

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Speaker 1: included Marshawn Lynch. But here's the matchup. I love coming

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Speaker 1: out of Week one where Cam Newton and the New

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams versus Cam Newton and how will the Patriots

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Speaker 1: But but you're right Mark that the Sea change was

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Speaker 1: a what timing we got here. We also saw them

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Speaker 1: the most painful loss in Super Bowl history. Dan, you

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Speaker 1: You know. That's the past, just like the Patriots of

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Speaker 1: have a ways to go before they totally developed. Unlike Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be, you know, picking against my own team,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna do that. But I think this

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Speaker 1: Last week with with New England and Miami, they ran

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Speaker 1: you know this let Russ Cook business is you don't

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Good pick, Mark, nice solid number

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Speaker 1: let's see where the Texans the Deshaun Watson are are

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Speaker 1: are at. It's a great QB matchup and I think

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Speaker 1: You're right. I mean that was as good a day

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Speaker 1: I just can't see a scenario where the Ravens aren't

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Speaker 1: they dropped forty one on this Texans team last year. Right,

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Speaker 1: that game was forty one to seven, So it wasn't

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans offense. You know, with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: gone far too far down this wormhole as it is

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Speaker 1: for NFL football in Las Vegas. I never thought we

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Speaker 1: live to see the day, and yet here we are

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Speaker 1: all right time now for Road to Victory, presented by

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Speaker 1: the United States Marine Corps. The draft now heads to me,

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Speaker 1: and I will choose the Minnesota Vikings at Indianapolis Cults.

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Speaker 1: And I love this game. In fact, what a steel

435
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Speaker 1: for the old Zeuser here in the middle of the draft,

436
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Speaker 1: because these are two teams that you know, fashion themselves

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Speaker 1: super Bowl contenders, but look nothing like that in Week one,

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Speaker 1: and one of these teams is gonna be oh and

439
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Speaker 1: two and that will be a bitter pill to swallow.

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Speaker 1: Uh So I'm two things I'm really interested to see. One,

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Speaker 1: how does the Minnesota Vikings defense look after they just

442
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: don't show up against the Packers. They did not show

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Speaker 1: up in their building against Aaron Rodgers who shredded them

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Speaker 1: for over five hundred yards. Could have been a fifty

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Speaker 1: burger if a couple of things went Green Bay's way.

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Speaker 1: That's how dominant Rogers was. It was just pitch and

447
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: catch all day long against that young secondary. Without Daniel

448
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: hunter Um, there was no push at the on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line for the Vikings. It was just an ugly game.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Zimmer is a great defensive coach. They have

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Speaker 1: players on this ruster expected better effort here. And on

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Speaker 1: the Cult side, everybody knows what happened. It was the

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Speaker 1: biggest upset of Week one. The you lose to the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: who we thought were in tank for Trevor mode. And

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers does the Rivers things which he throws ill

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Speaker 1: advised passes, allowing uh an inferior team to defeat his team.

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Speaker 1: Uh so how does he bounce back from that? This

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Speaker 1: is a really interesting game, a Dan, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: This game is that I will I'm a little into

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Speaker 1: because I was gonna pick this. Um, you know, do

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Speaker 1: the snake draft where I go like eighty two picks

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Speaker 1: without with no selections. But um, you've made You've done

463
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: a good job. You look at that Jacksonville game and

464
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: the Colts ran twenty more plays in Jacksonville had two

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Speaker 1: hundred more yards. I love the idea that Jonathan Taylor

466
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Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of work in this game.

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Speaker 1: He you know, he had a couple of plays against

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville catch and near touchdown that showed his speed. He

469
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Speaker 1: is a phenomenal young running back. Can't wait to see him.

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Speaker 1: And for me, I mean the Vikings defense. Can you

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Speaker 1: handle a number one writers wide receiver. You had a

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Speaker 1: seventh three lead that turned into a twenty seven deficit

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Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, and that is why

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Speaker 1: I do believe the Cults are a playoff team and

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Speaker 1: our producers know what's coming unlocking this game up. Know

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Speaker 1: he did it. Oh my god, you hate the Vikings

477
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Speaker 1: so much, Mark, No, I just have a feeling Greg

478
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Speaker 1: wanted to do what I just did, that's all. And

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Speaker 1: this not a ton of conviction yet. Well you know,

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Speaker 1: I picked the Colts to make the Super Bowl, which

481
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Speaker 1: is a little out rageous because I know there's ghouls

482
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Speaker 1: like Dan who just want to dig dirt on Philip.

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Speaker 1: Go watch that, Go watch that Week one tape. Let's

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Speaker 1: go see that the deep out, the strong arm that

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was throwing. I mean, I was actually encouraged

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Speaker 1: by this game. When he makes some throws, it actually

487
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: made me feel better. That's not that you have to

488
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Speaker 1: have a big time arm to be making these throws

489
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Speaker 1: down the field. I feel better about them. I want

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Speaker 1: to see their offensive line play a little better, especially

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Speaker 1: in short yard situation in the run game. But this

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Speaker 1: is the matchup to do it. Because you said the

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Speaker 1: Vikings defensive line didn't show up. You said they have players,

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Speaker 1: do they at defensive tackle? That's kind of the position

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Speaker 1: that they lost the most. That No, one's really paying

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Speaker 1: any attention to I think Taylor goes up and down

497
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Speaker 1: the field. You're right, I wanted to do this, Mark,

498
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Speaker 1: I am doing this. I'm locking it up. Well, now

499
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: we gotta say the games ahead of time, because we

500
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Speaker 1: got the graphic and everything. I had a couple that

501
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Speaker 1: you know, we're a little less spice. See this one.

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Speaker 1: This one felt nice. You know. The way that Tom

503
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Speaker 1: Coughlin was loyal to Eli Manning and Giants management is

504
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Speaker 1: the way you are the philip Rivers. You will always

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Speaker 1: look past all the terrible things he does and say, oh,

506
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Speaker 1: but he had one bullet pass, uh to t Y

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Speaker 1: Hilton was seven minutes to play in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: So his arm is still great. No, man, no, that's

509
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Speaker 1: not gonna cut it anymore. He is he cannot do

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Speaker 1: what he used to do in his heyday. And you

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Speaker 1: see it with these throws that he forces into small windows.

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Speaker 1: And because he doesn't have the arm he did and

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Speaker 1: it never was a rifle arm, it is now becoming

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Speaker 1: a balloon factory, uh for the for the philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: era here in the late period here, and I just

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Speaker 1: think you can't ignore that he even had a third

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Speaker 1: interception that was taken off the board by a penalty.

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Speaker 1: You can't ignore that he is a liability at this

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Speaker 1: point in his career. I don't know why. Well, I

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Speaker 1: means don't have C. J. Henderson first of all, and

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Speaker 1: and the Colts to I'm telling you, Jonathan Taylor is

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Speaker 1: going to be the guy we're talking about coming in

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Speaker 1: this game. People are Jonathan Taylor, but people sleep a

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Speaker 1: little bit on Marlon Mack, who was playing really well

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Speaker 1: early on in that game as a receiver and as

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Speaker 1: a rusher. He blows as Achilles, a terrible setback for him.

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Speaker 1: So everyone says, but slide into Jonathan Taylor. He's a superstar. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: but it's almost like not getting Marlon Mac the respect

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Speaker 1: that he deserves as a I like Mac, the us

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Speaker 1: him hines well as well that I mean Paris Campbell's

531
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Speaker 1: coming on. There's a lot of young guys on this offense.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna grow and get better weekly. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that Jonathan Taylor is a big part of

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Speaker 1: it now. And it's not a nag on Mac. It's

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Speaker 1: just that I really do like what I see from Taylor,

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Speaker 1: and not a nug on you. Mark Sessler I was

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Speaker 1: just pointing out more that I feel like people just

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Speaker 1: brushed the mac injury under the rug, and then all

539
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Speaker 1: the fantasy had just under the rug to the kid,

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Speaker 1: you know, and okay, you know there's nothing personal towards you.

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Speaker 1: That was the road to victory presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. All right, Mark Snakes, do you you know?

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00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: I already know where I'm going here? And I think

544
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Speaker 1: it says something that I'm picking one team that um

545
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Speaker 1: as a Browns fan, destroyed my childhood thanks to John Elway,

546
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: and another team that continues to destroy my football Sundays

547
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Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh Steelers. But this matchup is just a

548
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: little too juicy, uh to pass up after what I

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00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: saw on Monday night from both of these teams. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I look at Denver and even if they were to

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Speaker 1: lose to Pittsburgh and they were owing two, which at

552
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: a time when we can write certain teams off the

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Speaker 1: way that this offense is starting to what they're showing

554
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Speaker 1: me and where they are right now and where they're

555
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Speaker 1: going to be when guy like Jerry Judy and Noah Funt,

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Speaker 1: but especially Jerry Judy comes into his own, I saw

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Speaker 1: a star player on Monday night. I know there were

558
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Speaker 1: some drops, but I think we all saw the same thing.

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Speaker 1: A completely different type of wide receiver who completely jumps

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Speaker 1: off the page. This is a tough test. Pittsburgh defense

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00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: looks absolutely Uh it's a it's monstrous and the front

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Speaker 1: and the front and seven and the t J. What

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Speaker 1: t J walk and do that to me? I don't

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Speaker 1: love that for Drew Lock, and I don't love Denver's

565
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Speaker 1: offensive line, but I just want to see how they handle. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But the strengths of boast boat teams here and you know,

567
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Big Ben look great, so I think we're looking at

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised that these two met again down

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Speaker 1: the road in the playoffs. I want to see where

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00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: they are too. I really believe in Denver as a

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Speaker 1: late season sort of berserker type operation. Oh you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark loves the berserkers, and this this team is one

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Speaker 1: that that could do. I mean, no offense, insane. He

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00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: he just physically after the catch. He might be the

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Speaker 1: guy and duty. I mean he's putting people on a

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Speaker 1: blender in those clips that they should be a lot

577
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. But we've also never seen Drew

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Speaker 1: Lock play a defense like this. That was kind of

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00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the criticism of his late season run. They certainly didn't

580
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: play a great defense in Week one. He literally has

581
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: never faced a scheme like this, a group of talented

582
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: players like this and teams that can blitz as much

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Speaker 1: as this. So I'm really curious to see if Lock

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Speaker 1: can avoid the sacks that he's been able to because

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00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: since he's come UH into the starting job, he is

586
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Speaker 1: the toughest quarterback in the league to sack. I mean,

587
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: he gets rid of the ball place. It's one of

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: the things that you kind of sleep on on him

589
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: as a young player. I'm sample size. We're doing it

590
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: again with this Drew Lock stuff. It's it's such a

591
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: small sample size. How do we know. I mean, the

592
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans could not get to the quarterback UH on

593
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Speaker 1: Monday night. But I want to see, let's find out

594
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: about Drew locks ability to avoid sacks after after Sunday.

595
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: This is actually the big one thing. And Broncos fans

596
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: know that I've been kind of holding out on giving

597
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Drew Lock any type of keys to the kingdom. Yet

598
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: here's the game right here. This is gonna be I

599
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: believe his seventh start. This is going to be coming

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00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: off an oh and one where his he led his

601
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Speaker 1: offense to fourteen points in a loss in Week one,

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Speaker 1: and now you're playing a great Pittsburgh defense. If you

603
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: avoid sacks and you make plays and you keep your

604
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Speaker 1: team in this game, or you help win the game,

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00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: I will I will say, Okay, John Elway made the

606
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: right decision by going all in on Drew Lock, but

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Speaker 1: I want to see it first, because I really think

608
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh even didn't didn't even play their a game. I

609
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: didn't think on defense against the Giants, certainly against Kwon

610
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: Barkley they did, but Daniel Jones was able to move

611
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: the ball through the air. Darius Slayton lit them up. Um,

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00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I think the Pittsburgh Stres have a higher level on

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: defense and at home, could we could see it. I

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00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: just I think you're holding out on Drew Loock just

615
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think we're also we look at

616
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks a little differently young quarterbacks. But and maybe I

617
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: sign up too quickly for some of these guys. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're still waiting for guys like Baker Mayfield

619
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Speaker 1: and Sam Donald to wake up and play consistently that way,

620
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: and no one's talking about not being sold on them

621
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Speaker 1: at some level. I mean, I think a lot of

622
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: people are talking about not being sold on those duds.

623
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Speaker 1: I am no, but I'm talking about, like, like the

624
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: idea that Drew Lock has shown a lot in a

625
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: small Sandals size, so why are we selling it down

626
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: the river. It's like he has to prove himself now

627
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: against what might be the best state defense in the league.

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00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: He will I think, yeah, I think he will make

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: plays in this game. Watch what he does. I just

630
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: think that the game after game, Drew Lock is aggressive

631
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: and he's got weapons around him. I mean, I don't

632
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: see a lot to not like about true Lot. He

633
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: was one of the PFF had him as great at

634
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: as one of the worst quarterbacks a week one. So

635
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: there are other people who're not seeing it. I'm somewhere

636
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: in the middle here. I think he's got a long

637
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: way to go, but it's gonna be fun to watch him.

638
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: And on some level, he reminds me a little bit

639
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: of Roethlisberger um with his his creative ability, and that's

640
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: the problem. Lot is gonna have to put up points

641
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: because Roethlisberger has got mismatches all over the field. I know,

642
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Speaker 1: Vick Fongio is great at coaching up cornerbacks. I mean,

643
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: who else could put an undrafted guy and uh, a

644
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: third rounder rookie in against Tennessee and be okay? I

645
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: mean they I think the name of what is it,

646
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Michael osamudia Bus is his undrafted guy. It's like, okay,

647
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: that's great. You can coach him up as much as

648
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: you want. These are mismatches against Juju and Deonte and

649
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: and really this entire Steeler's wide receiver Crewer's this hard

650
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to imagine the Steelers not putting up some points in

651
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: this game. As much as I respect your boy, Dan

652
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: vick Fongio, all right, let's move forward. And I'm not

653
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: counting him out. Mark, I'm saying this is a big

654
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give like your boy Gardner means you, I'm

655
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you some love for your boy a little

656
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: later in the show. Uh. But Drew Lock, come on now,

657
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: let's see him do it first. All right, I'm up next,

658
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I will go with Oh, this is this is a

659
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: tough one, but I am gonna go with Rams at Eagles. Uh.

660
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: With my next choice. I really liked where I saw

661
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: from the Rams. Really all across the board. In Week

662
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: one Sunday night, I thought that the offense was fun

663
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: to watch, and it was clear that Sean McVeigh, a

664
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Speaker 1: guy that sometimes weirdly now gets overlooked as one of

665
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: the great minds because it's just been a narrative that

666
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: played out a couple of years ago and we've moved

667
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: on on some level, uh in the cogniscenti, but he

668
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: still knows how to do call plays and you could

669
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: tell he was doing things that we're keeping Jared Goff

670
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: in a rhythm, kept them comfortable, more short passes, Adam's

671
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: hand rollouts, uh to keep his issues with mobility at

672
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Bay Bay, and concerns about the offensive line. Speaking of

673
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line, they played a lot better than they

674
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: did last year. And we all were right to have

675
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: concerns about the line after last season, and they still

676
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: might turn out to be a liability, but they're healthy

677
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: right now and we saw that what they could do

678
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: when they're healthy. And then the running game, Uh, we

679
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: don't have Todd Gurley, but that didn't seem to be

680
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: a problem against a very good team in Week one.

681
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to see the Rams and the

682
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Eagles they got to clean it up. They got to

683
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: clean it up because that was ugly last week. It

684
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: feels like one of the biggest games for any team

685
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: is this Eagles team try and avoid oh and two

686
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: because they're panicking. Uh in Philadelphia, and with that line

687
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: being banged up, I'd be panicking a little too. With

688
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald coming to town. I was kicking myself after

689
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: we did our Sunday night recap. Um. I just couldn't

690
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: believe that I didn't mention Aaron Donald, that none of

691
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: us mentioned Aaron Donald. This guy is so amazing that

692
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: we almost take it for granted. But that performance in

693
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Week one, and I know you're not supposed to take

694
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, football points out of hard knocks necessarily, uh,

695
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: but I'm going to because he was unblockable and hard

696
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: knocks and he was unblockable in Leak one. That was

697
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the most pressurous he had in the game since eighteen.

698
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: And Jason Kelsey, I know he's healthy, um, but he's

699
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: getting up there in years and that the guards in Philadelphia.

700
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: It's just he can wreck a game all on his own.

701
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: I give him the m v P from a week ago.

702
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: He's the reason we're talking about the Rams offense is

703
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: because Aaron Donald held that Cowboys defense down. Yeah, no,

704
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean the one thing, though, I

705
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: understand that if the Eagles ever lost this like, Philly

706
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: talk radio is just simply gonna explode from the inside out.

707
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it before. Uh, They're not happy

708
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: about much no matter what's going on in Philly. But

709
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, when I look at Carson Wentz,

710
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I still saw him make some incredible throws in that

711
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: game to Dallas Goddard, to Jail and Rigor. I mean,

712
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: there's no questioning the arm I thinks too, And I

713
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: think some of those eight sacks. You you've got to

714
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: look at the way that Wentz plays and sometimes maybe

715
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: another quarterback could have gotten out of some of that trouble. Um.

716
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, the entire ecosystem was blown up in Philly

717
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: last week thanks to Chase Young and the Washington defense.

718
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is that going to happen again? Aaron Donald

719
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: suggests it might, but I really think Philly is gonna

720
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: have to come out and show something different. If you

721
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: get Miles Sanders back, that helps. I mean, they just

722
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: were off balance all game last week. Yeah, it's hard

723
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: to say that. That's another one of those Week one

724
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: things where it's like, how much do you put into

725
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: a Washington you know, ten weeks from now, if they're

726
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: the most defensive front seven that the league is seen,

727
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: uh this year, it won't seem so bad that the

728
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: Eagles struggled in Week one, which is a tough week

729
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: historically for everyone to get on the same page on

730
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: an offensive line. Or maybe yeah, you're right, the Eagles

731
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: have major issues. Wentz has got to clean it up.

732
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: Was not a good game for him. A lot of

733
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: those sacks are on him, a lot of missed open throws.

734
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just that guy, you know, I know the

735
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: Eagles fans never want to hear, but he reminds me

736
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: a lot of McNair, where you know, he's a great quarterback,

737
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: but he misses more gimmes than than other great quarterback.

738
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: And and that's just been the case since since Week

739
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: one of his rookie season. And I don't see that changing.

740
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Speaker 1: And I say this with peace and love to the

741
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: people of Philadelphia, because I know your maniacs over there.

742
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna really feel sorry for where you are as

743
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: a football fan base, right now he's still got the

744
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Nick Foles glory years right in your rear view. There

745
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: are a lot of other franchises that have nothing. They

746
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: get nothing, they get squat. You had one of the

747
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: best Super Bowl wins in the history of that game.

748
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: So come on, behave better please, Philly. Yeah, all right,

749
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: welcome back, mark your pick. All right, well, I'm gonna

750
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: go um Washington and Arizona. I really enjoyed watching the

751
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals last week. And you know what felt good about it,

752
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: It's this team that um could have been a disappointment

753
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: after being pumped up month after month in the offseason,

754
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: people thinking that Kyler Murray was gonna make a Lamar

755
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Jackson type leap. I think Kyler Murray has me to leap.

756
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he played a really good game. You know that,

757
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: both against the Niners. Both teams got off to a

758
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: slow start. But then the DeAndre Hopkins chemistry came into play.

759
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: And I know, we spent all summer saying they didn't

760
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: practice together, didn't have a camp together. It just didn't matter.

761
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: And we spent all summer saying they played four wide

762
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: receiver sets left and right. DeAndre Hopkins is going to

763
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: be drowned out. Well, he just did what he did

764
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: in Houston and days of Old fourteen catches a hundred

765
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: and fifty one yards what would have been a game

766
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: winning touchdown at the end, but it was stopped at

767
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: the one cent. The team in for the win right

768
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: after that. I just think that Cliff Kingsbury has something here.

769
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: I think coaches around the league gonna start cut copycatting this.

770
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Now you're playing a really interesting defense based on what

771
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: we saw last week. So it's a very different challenge

772
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: than what the banged up Niners presented last Sunday. Right

773
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are built though, to stop great defensive lines.

774
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: They did it a week ago because they get rid

775
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: of the ball so quick and because Murray most of

776
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: those runs that we're seeing those were scrambles, they weren't

777
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: called runs, and it's like, there's really no great defense

778
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: to stop that. Murray and Kenyan Drake just break your ankles.

779
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: But this front line, led by Chase Young has a

780
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: shot at least. I mean, I learned some things about Washington.

781
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I think their secondary is gonna be better with Ron Rivera,

782
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: who always coaches it up. And they were making plays

783
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: on the ball, and I learned that Chase Young is

784
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a force. We don't need to wait around,

785
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be any warming up. It's like, oh,

786
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: he's a young pick. It's like, no, Chase Young has

787
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: come to play two forced fumbles in his first game.

788
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: He was the best player on that entire team in

789
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: his first game. The energy that he plays with where

790
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: sometimes he's going after the quarterback that he realizes it's

791
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: a screen and he runs down the running back who

792
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: catches the screen. I mean, this guy, it's a lot

793
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: of fun. It's kind of what I wanted out of

794
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: Jadevian Clowney and I love Clowney, but to me, they

795
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of each other with the

796
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: energy and the strength that he plays with. Which is

797
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: interesting that you mentioned Clowney because Clowney was the last

798
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: guy that got as much hype entering the draft um

799
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: as Chase Young did. And yeah, like you said, Clowney

800
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: has been a good but not great NFL player. But Young, yeah,

801
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: right away he shows you I am I am the man.

802
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: I am going to be an absolute wrecking ball. And

803
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: when you take him and add him to a defensive

804
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: line that was already quality. I think it's gonna be

805
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: interesting to see where things shake out for Washington because

806
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: if Dwayne Haskins can raise his game up and be

807
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: even just like a solid game manager, where they the

808
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: offense is okay with a couple of good weeks here

809
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: and there, if the defense terrorizes quarterbacks week after week

810
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: and forces turnovers and puts other teams in difficult situations,

811
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: and then you look at that division. I'm not getting

812
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: two ahead of myself here, but you're buying some football

813
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: team stock. I'm buying a little bit of stock in

814
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: that football team franchise because the Cowboys are known to

815
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: let us down there already owned one with a tough

816
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Week two assignment. We know what's going on with the

817
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: gream and and the Eagles are a bit of a

818
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: mess right now. Don't be surprised if Washington's hanging around

819
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: in the NFC East race and a couple of months,

820
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: because they have the pieces to do it. Dan, I

821
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: really like it. There's one thing that you know, this

822
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: is a completely different offense than a year ago under

823
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Scott's Turner the New l C. They were the seventh

824
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: fastest team a week ago, and last year you remember

825
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: I love their games because they'd be over in about

826
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: a minute and forty an hour and forty five minutes,

827
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: because they run the ball sixty times. They're different, and

828
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: they have young pieces, and I know it's gonna take

829
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but you're right. If they

830
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: can manage to score and just you know, consistently put

831
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: some drives together. If this defense looks the way it

832
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: did last week, Ron Rivera is in for an interesting

833
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: first year in Washington. Dan says, don't be surprised. I mean,

834
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised. I think, yeah, They're coaching is better. Man.

835
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: They're left tackle last week was was really struggling there

836
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: on like their third spring left tackle. He's gonna go

837
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: up against Chandler John. I just think this offense is

838
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: gonna have a long way to go, So I'm not

839
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: getting too excited. I am excited to see though, that

840
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals as like a team that you expect to

841
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: win a home game. So go go take care of business, Cardinals. Yeah.

842
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I also like is you know, we cover the league

843
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: breathlessly even in the off season, and we talked about

844
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: all these off season narratives and how the season is

845
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna shake out and then of them seemed to blow

846
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: up in everyone's faces, but DeAndre Hopkins immediately being an

847
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: unbelievable number one wide receiver for Kyler Murray and the

848
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: missing piece in his developed next step in the Lamarian League. Hey,

849
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: that all played out exactly to plan UH in week one,

850
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see if that continues. Listen, looks like, you

851
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: know what, we got all the way to week two

852
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: before I messed up the order. But let's try to

853
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: get back on track here, UH, and Greg, why don't

854
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: we snake it up with you? Sorry, guys, I mean,

855
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: let's let's get on track with the giving the UH

856
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion m V peace and respect and

857
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: get him off the board. Now it's it's Patrick Mahomes.

858
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: That's the Chargers, It's UH, it's so Fi Stadium. It's

859
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: the division rival that has given Mahomes the most trouble.

860
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, the defense did a pretty good

861
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: job against them at times last year, and if Joey

862
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Bosa is healthy for this game, they certainly still present

863
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: UH some challenges. But I want to see if the

864
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs approach from Week one changes, because they quietly were

865
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: very different, not just that they moved the ball up

866
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: and down the field, but they went crazy heavy play action.

867
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes is one of the quarterbacks that they almost don't

868
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: use play action at all. It's one of the only

869
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league that is has been worse on

870
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: play action, which doesn't doesn't really make any sense, and

871
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: they went wild with it against the Texans. It worked

872
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: to some degree. You know, the Chargers are gonna be

873
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: trying to defend that past. They have a nice defensive

874
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: backfield despite the injuries. But I'm just curious if it's

875
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a sea change. I think that was Andy

876
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: Reid's a little bit too to surprise the Texans in

877
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: the Week one. It worked to some degree, and we'll

878
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: see if it will work this week. You know. The

879
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: only thing though, and I know that you can't injuries

880
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: or injuries, but how different would it be if this

881
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: defense in this game had Derwin James. You know, they

882
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: lost Drew Tranquil as well. They're already banged up. Uh,

883
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: And I just I you know, I don't want to

884
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: be pessimistic about the Tyrod Taylor offense. I feel like

885
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I've hit on that multiple times. I well, I feel it,

886
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: and this is This is a kind of the quest

887
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: with Kansas City is how do you keep up with

888
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the team that you know, even if you hold them

889
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: down for two quarters, they're gonna have that quarter or

890
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: that spurt where they scored twenty one points. So I

891
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: see a field goal offense with Tyrod Taylor. This is

892
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: on the first four drives last week out of the gate.

893
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: You'd think some of that would be scripted action where

894
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: everyone knew what's coming. Fifty eight yards over the first

895
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: four drives. I mean, just this is against the Cincinnati Bengals,

896
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: and I just helped me believe that this team, the

897
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: way that they're constructed. I love that Anthony Lynn is

898
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: sticking to his convictions. I mean, this guy wants to

899
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: run the ball. He wants the quarterback to run the ball.

900
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: But how do you hang in a game like this

901
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: with one of the most prolific attacks we've ever experienced

902
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: covering the NFL together, I don't think they can. And

903
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I wish a lot of things about but I wish

904
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: so Fi Stadium for the Chargers debut had seventy people

905
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: in it. Maybe even they wouldn't fill that place out, well,

906
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: it would filled the Chiefs stands probably, but uh, I

907
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: don't think a road matchup is gonna phase this Chief's offense.

908
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's building proof. I think

909
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: it's almost defense proof. I think they're that level of greatness.

910
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I found it interesting that Clyde Edwards Hilaire, who had

911
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: that big Week one game a thirty eight yards on

912
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the ground, didn't even have a reception. It's like they

913
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: have so many ways to beat you that they could

914
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: put up thirty four points as they did against Houston

915
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: in Week one and feel like they're only half paying

916
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: attention like there were. I looked this up. I asked

917
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: the NFL media research to look this up. Four teams

918
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't score thirty four points one slast year, and the

919
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs did it unlike a C minus game for them.

920
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: So I think they're just at that special level, maybe

921
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: a team that comes across around once every ten twenty years,

922
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: where unless you have an offense that could keep up

923
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: and then get a couple of big plays on defense,

924
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna beat them. And I just don't think

925
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers have the firepower right I've picked on Lynn

926
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: for this approach. Now you could say they had a

927
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: certain idea of how they wanted to attack the Bengals

928
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: that they can hang in a low scoring It proved

929
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: proved me wrong. Uh, Anthony Lynn, because you're going up

930
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: against the Chief's cornerbacks. All right, can we name him here?

931
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton's Legarius Sneed, Rashad Fenton. These are these are

932
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: attackable guys. And you didn't see kind of the personnel

933
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: or even the scheme diversity out of the charges that

934
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: you would like to see. Last week. It was kind

935
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: of less rolling the same receivers out there every snap.

936
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: You're going three tight ends. Your whole offense is going

937
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: deep to Mike Williams when you do throw like Tyrod

938
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: can throw it a little bit like I I I'm

939
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: with you guys that you gotta get aggressive because that,

940
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: to me is attacking the weakness of it. It's it's

941
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: that or use your defensive line power to create turnovers.

942
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: There aren't that many games for Patrick Mahomes has multiple turnovers,

943
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: but there's been a couple. I mean, you could think

944
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl where you're open. Your opponent in

945
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: that game had a chance. You just you have caught

946
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: to cause chaos with your strength, which is Joey Bosa

947
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: and the Pete Melvin Ingram and the people around him.

948
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: But if that doesn't happen, this thing is lights out.

949
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: I could hear our buddy, Matt money Smith, if he

950
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: was watching this or listening to this now, just yelling that, well,

951
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: but you're not giving the Chargers defense enough credit. Even

952
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: without Derwin James, they have that ability. Okay. I just

953
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are one in a million type team

954
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: that even if you have a a very good defense, uh,

955
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: if you're not simply great, I don't think you're stopping

956
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: him right now. Maybe maybe we'll be wrong. But the

957
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: good thing is we know Matt money Smith is not

958
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: watching this or listening, so we won't have to have

959
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: that conversation with him. I'm certain I think you're right, Greg.

960
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: It snakes back to you. Okay. You know the fans

961
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna go Bill's Dolphins. Right here.

962
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: They're they're saying it's a reach Rosenthal. They're wrong. They're

963
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: saying that you hate the Bills too, that's what they say. Well,

964
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: that is so not true, New York I. I don't

965
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: believe in Josh Allen long term. The Bills fans are

966
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: coming after one week saying you believe in him? Now,

967
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: it's like no, I mean that that game is a

968
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: game we've seen out of him. I do believe in

969
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dable though, and I do believe you can play

970
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: an offensive round Josh Allen strength, which they're no longer

971
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: letting him throw the ball intermediate or deep at all

972
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: because he misses. It's all short stuff. You can't do

973
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: that forever. But it was working. You know, the scheme

974
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: got him open. And they've spent the whole offseason saying, Okay,

975
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: we're not gonna run Josh Allen anymore. That that was

976
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: such a fake out because they ran him more in

977
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: that game than they ever have in terms of called

978
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: designed Josh Allen runs. And you know what, I love it.

979
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: We We've said on this podcast a lot that I

980
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: think in the best case scenario, he's a poor man's

981
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, and uh that he that's what he looked

982
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: like last week, poor man's Cam news But also if

983
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: you're if you're the Bills, you look at what Cam

984
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: Newton did to the Dolphins and the way that Cam

985
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Newton had one of his better days, and you know,

986
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: why not just do the same thing and I think

987
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Brian Dable doesn't get enough credit for being a really

988
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: pretty creative fensive play caller who will switch things up.

989
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: He really did down the stretch last year. He played

990
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: with pace a lot um with the Bills that helped

991
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think you're right that they're taking away

992
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: some of those throws that caused him chaos a year ago.

993
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, Miami is way more pieces on defense than

994
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: they did in ten. But I still think they're attackable.

995
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: And I mean, if if Buffalo were to lose this game,

996
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: we'd have to look at it as a thunderous upset

997
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: in my book. And I mean, to me, I've been

998
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: kind of tracking Zack Moss and Devin Singletary. I think

999
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the Zack Moss Hello to the

1000
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: World game where if you have him on your fantasy team,

1001
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: you might think which time to start thinking about starting

1002
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: this guy because he's a little bit of a red

1003
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: zone Uh he's a red zone weapon and they're gonna

1004
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: line them up and have him score touchdowns. I was

1005
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: looking for the term what's the one Dan about what

1006
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: they called, uh, the one guy who's in the red

1007
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: zone vault, the red zone vault if you're gonna be

1008
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: a fantasy you know guy suddenly in the one eighty

1009
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: turn from Sessler where now he's just dropping fantasy. No,

1010
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: I think it's called versatility. It's versatility. That's what i'd

1011
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: like to That's what i'd call it. I think the

1012
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: Dolphins are not a very good team. I think they're

1013
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: gonna struggle this year. I think this is gonna be

1014
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: one of many losses for them, And so I don't

1015
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: even know what I gotta be honest, like with the Dolphins,

1016
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how invested I'm gonna be in or

1017
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: how excited I'm gonna be turning on game pass until

1018
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: two it gets involved with that offense. On on the

1019
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: Bill's side of it, I thought that Josh Allen poopoo

1020
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: platter in Week one was kind of fun to watch

1021
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: because you got it all. I mean you got you

1022
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: got great plays with his legs. Uh, given the Jets

1023
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: defense fits. You had his first three yard game where

1024
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: he was pretty accurate on a fair number of throws,

1025
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: but then you had some hideous airmails where they should

1026
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: have absolutely put away the Jets. Uh. They should have

1027
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: turned that game into an absolute embarrassment. Forty Burger style,

1028
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: but instead the fourth quarter, the game is still somewhat

1029
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: in doubt because he puts the ball in the carpet twice.

1030
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: He misses a couple of been touchdown throws. So you

1031
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: look at the whole game and it's like, I saw

1032
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: really good stuff. I saw more bad stuff. So I

1033
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: still feel exactly the same about Josh Allen, even after

1034
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, yeah, he had his best passing

1035
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: day ever and he didn't throw an interception. Uh, you

1036
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: watched that game and it's still a guy that's a

1037
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: little hot and cold. So I really liked them in

1038
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: this game. But Josh Allen to me, is still jury

1039
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: out as we are now into year three right and then,

1040
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: and the Dolphin strength is in the secondary, so I

1041
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: don't think they'll throw it again this week. I this

1042
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: was another game, but this is my new running team.

1043
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: I was gonta lock this up, and I didn't. I

1044
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: didn't know if it would be allowed. Would this game

1045
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: have been allowed for I think it would have been

1046
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: a bit of a ghostly visage in the mirror if

1047
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: you locked up. It's it's early though, and um, I'm

1048
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: not gonna totally count out the Dolphins from improving. Even

1049
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: even though I am very confident the Bills win this game,

1050
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: this is a big game for the Dolphins, So flories,

1051
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do is go into a

1052
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: year division to start the year. So if they really

1053
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: do want to make stra I mean, this is a

1054
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: big time game for the Dolphins. And conversely, Bills, if

1055
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: you want us to look at you as a Super

1056
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: Bowl contender, go take care of business. Get to know

1057
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: what better way to start your season. If schedule makers, Jets, Dolphins,

1058
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: come on, Bills, do what you gotta do. All right,

1059
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: I am upamama, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let's go. Yeah,

1060
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: I get to watch Aaron Rodgers again on Sunday. I'll

1061
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: do that because I did that last week and I

1062
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: had the time of my life. Because Aaron Rodgers was

1063
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful thrower of the football and just ran that

1064
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: offense with great precision. So we see if that is

1065
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: uh something of an anomaly and he and he goes

1066
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: back to being the overly cautious guy. Uh that kind

1067
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: of gives you fits as we saw the last two years.

1068
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: Or if this is really gonna be a thing, and

1069
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: it seems like the script is set up for it

1070
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: to to go down again because he's at home. Uh,

1071
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: and he's against the Lions, and I don't even know

1072
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: where the Lions are at. This is where you really

1073
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: need good head coaching. I don't know if the Lions

1074
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: have good head coaching. When you lose a game in

1075
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: the fashion that the Lions lost to a division rival

1076
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: in Week one, uh, the way they blew the lead

1077
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: to Mitch Trobinsky of all people in your building, and

1078
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Swift, this guy that you're so high on,

1079
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: has one of the most egregious, gnarly drops that I

1080
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: remember in a regular season game that literally cost this

1081
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: team the game. Like, how do you bounce back from that?

1082
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Now against the defending division champion. So it's gonna be

1083
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: gut check time and week two for the Lions and

1084
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers show continues for Green Bay. If I were

1085
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: the Lions, and if I were Darryl Bevillo, I would

1086
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: get Swift involved right away because I think he's a

1087
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: key part of what you want to do on offense

1088
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: down down the road here in Detroit. If you're gonna

1089
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: do anything, and you got to just put that, uh

1090
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: put what happened last week into the into the rear

1091
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: view mirror, and to me, though, it's this Lions secondary.

1092
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean they went you know, the injuries hurt them

1093
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: last week. They really did a good job against Miss

1094
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: Robinsky the defense until the fourth quarter when somehow Mr

1095
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Robinsky like supersized and went nuts and tore them apart.

1096
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: And now you're dealing with someone that's not going to

1097
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: be streaky like Mitch Drobinsky, but he physically got bigger.

1098
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: I think he just got like, you know, like maybe

1099
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: added like twenty five pounds of muscle in the fourth

1100
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: quarter out of nowhere, like built it like just so

1101
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was made of. But yeah,

1102
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean I was watching that thing and it just

1103
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: surprised me because I really was out on Mr Robinsky

1104
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: and like he he was completing some beautiful passes, but

1105
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: a lot of it was because Detroit is really banged

1106
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: up and they're not you know, they're getting a couple

1107
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: of people back, but they're not a lot healthier this week.

1108
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: So I don't like the combo there at all. Right,

1109
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Okudas expected to come back, but he supposedly struggled

1110
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: in training camp and wasn't even necessarily going to start

1111
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: a top five pick. It doesn't get any uglier than that.

1112
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: I think if Patricia loses his job this year. I mean,

1113
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but man, he's oh and five

1114
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: against Mr Drobiski. Doesn't get any word than go and

1115
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: own five against Trabinsky and blowing at seventeen point lead

1116
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I mean, we almost undersold what

1117
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: a catastrophic loss that is. And I'm with you it

1118
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: This is like a week that you learn something about them.

1119
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: And look, they can try as hard as they want,

1120
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: and they can coach up their offense. Well, um, I

1121
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: think they have some advantages maybe when they run the ball.

1122
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: The Packers are a little thin right now. Kenny Clark's

1123
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: banged up. Their defensive line didn't look very good, so

1124
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: I think the lines will be able to run the ball,

1125
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: like you said with swift Mark, but you can try

1126
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: as hard as you want. That might be a tough

1127
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: one to get over. We don't root for these things,

1128
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: but we do track them. In fact, we do something

1129
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: called the hot Butt rankings on the Around the NFL

1130
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: podcast from time to time. If they can't find a

1131
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: way to win in Green Bay, the lines would drop

1132
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: to OWN two. Then they're back on the road in

1133
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: week three at Arizona, another very tough game could be

1134
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: owing three. Then they come home to face the Saints,

1135
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: one of the true juggernauts of their conference. And then

1136
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: the worst part, the worst part of this for Mr

1137
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Patricia bye week. You go owing forward to your bye

1138
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: week ownership has a it's unfair motivation to make a

1139
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: move there. Yeah, it's unfair because the injuries really work

1140
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: key and that includes Kenny Golladay, Like they're just not

1141
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: the same offense without them. They're leaning on Peterson and

1142
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. I mean that kind of slipped under the

1143
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: radar too. It's crazy people are that he came in there.

1144
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: This should be put on Peterson's Hall of Fame plaque

1145
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: that he came to practice for three days in Detroit

1146
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: at age thirty five and he beat out DeAndrea, Shift

1147
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Swift and carry on Johnson in those games. I don't

1148
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: want to hear that those guys are banged up. They're playing.

1149
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: They're healthy enough to play. Adrian Peterson's just better. He

1150
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: justified it. He looked great. I mean, it's amazing. Ques here.

1151
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: I've never actually been to Canton. Do they have plaques?

1152
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: I know they have the bust, of course. I mean

1153
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: they're a nice little graph. I think unless you totally

1154
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: Mr remembering and thinking about Cooper's downbou, I'm pretty sure

1155
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: they've got a nice little paragraph and that's Peterson's paragraph. Well,

1156
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: I know Cooper's down Baseball has the plaque and then

1157
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: they have the plaque. They got the bust, and they

1158
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: got the plaque under. I mean, I've been to Canton

1159
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: multiple time. There's there's a lot of plaques. There's a

1160
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of bus I think Gregg is confusing some you

1161
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: don't even some remembrances here, But that's that's for some

1162
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: reason Greg's memory, it just comes in and out for

1163
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know like that. My mom's

1164
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: like that too. Yeah, I know what you're trying to say,

1165
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: but it's just genetic. Okay, sure, Mark, you're up all right? Well,

1166
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: I love where I'm going here. How does this game

1167
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: still hanging around Carolina at Tampa Bay? Lots going on here?

1168
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: Number one? Uh, Tom Brady value you like to pick

1169
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: or you don't like it? It's yeah, I think it's

1170
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, I I got the weird first overall picks.

1171
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: So the second time I'm picking, you're already in hot water.

1172
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: But I like this one. I want to see how

1173
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Carolina responds to Tom Brady probably being very agitated about

1174
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: every all the talking heads, all the little chucklers saying

1175
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is not Tom Brady anymore. Here's where

1176
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: I give him a break. PFF marked him with six

1177
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: big throws. That's up there among all the quarterbacks last week. Yes,

1178
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: I know he had the interceptions, but that was there

1179
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: was some communic communication breakdown there. Tom Brady doesn't vibe

1180
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: to me the same way we talked about young quarterbacks.

1181
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: Will that happen again? Can you? He's going to have

1182
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: that house in order. They're gonna work on that, and

1183
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: you're playing a completely different defense here in Carolina. You know,

1184
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I love that they drafted Derek Brown. I think he'll

1185
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: be a good player. He did not have a good

1186
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: week one. He did not make a big impact last week.

1187
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: They've got like seven guys on that defense that we're

1188
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: in college a year ago, so that's gonna take time.

1189
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: I think this is a bounce back scenario for Tampa Bay.

1190
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: But I like Carolina's offense because what I like about

1191
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: it is they didn't try to come in and the

1192
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: guys that were there last year and do everything differently.

1193
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was Christian McCaffrey. Matt Rule told us, you know,

1194
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: when he was on our show that he he you know,

1195
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: he has a relationship with Robbie Anderson. I know that

1196
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson doesn't know if it's a bear or a

1197
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: panther that's dancing in the end zone. I get all that,

1198
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: but Robbie Anderson was productive last week, and I think

1199
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: that he's a good part of this offense. D J.

1200
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: Moore was involved heavily. So I just want to see

1201
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: against a very good Bucks defense that shutdown McCaffrey twice

1202
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: a year ago. Um, they can find a way out

1203
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: of this. This is an interesting matchup. I really think, Carolina,

1204
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: I probably have too much faith at this point in

1205
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Matt Rule can be a little bit spicy in these

1206
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: types of games. I don't just give this to Tampa Bay,

1207
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, without thinking about Obviously, Matt Rule has earned

1208
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt in the NFL, so I

1209
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: understand that I know you will not like him until

1210
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: he has maybe two or three Lombardies on a shelf somewhere.

1211
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: But I tell you had a nice he did. You

1212
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: gotta admit that, Dan, right? Sure? They were competitive, Yeah,

1213
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: their offense. They lost it home to the Raiders, who

1214
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: are like an eight and eight team at best. So

1215
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm not I am not going to hand out any

1216
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: lollipops for that. I'm not gonna hand out lollipops quite yet.

1217
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: For Brady Um and Arians working together though, too. I'm

1218
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: with you, Mark. Brady made a lot of good throws.

1219
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: He didn't play as poorly as people thought. But I

1220
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: think tape dogs look at what happened last week and

1221
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: they see this blend of Tom Brady's offense. They ran

1222
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: some Patriots plays. I mean you could you could recognize

1223
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: them with Scotty Miller and in some of the tight ends.

1224
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: And then the Arians offense, which is just leave your

1225
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: five linemen up there and let your quarterback hang out

1226
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: for a while and take some hits, and they're gonna

1227
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: have to figure out that mix that maybe the Arians,

1228
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, postgame comments are a little bit about that.

1229
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: It's like, how are we gonna win? Are we gonna

1230
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: play your way? Are we gonna play my way. These

1231
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: are two strong willed guys. Mike Evans didn't know what

1232
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: was going on in terms of the sin routes. You

1233
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: could tell they weren't on the same page. Like that's

1234
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna take time, and I don't know how that plays out.

1235
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: It's perfect for Brady though, that they get to this

1236
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: Panthers defense and if you look ahead, they really don't

1237
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: have a ton of tough defensive matchup, so so that

1238
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: might be their number one saving grace as the schedule

1239
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: makers just set it up nicely for that. Greg. That

1240
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: is a great point because when you think about, like

1241
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: when Peyton Manning went to the Broncos, it wasn't hey,

1242
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: let's mix five different offensive schemes together. It was Peyton

1243
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: Manning's offense from the jump. And was is there a

1244
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: disservice on some level when you have Brady for probably

1245
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: let's say you have them for two years. Why not

1246
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: just give Tom Brady exactly what he's comfortable with. I mean,

1247
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: arians has his offense that he's comfortable with and ran

1248
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: it with Big Ben and all these other guys too.

1249
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, I wonder if the mishmash of these

1250
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: two schemes is how much time until they get it right.

1251
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a less confused offense um

1252
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: from week to week. But can you really blend these

1253
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: two schemes together. It does make me think too a

1254
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: tough se suation for Tom Brady because Peyton Manning had

1255
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: the benefit of the great Adam gaze up there and

1256
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: these arians is the guy down in Tampa. But no,

1257
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: I I totally I'm on board with what you guys

1258
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: are saying. And the other thing, when you were like

1259
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: setting this game up, I was sinking, Oh, there's no way,

1260
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 1: there's no way tom Brady starting. Oh and two he's

1261
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: at home coming on but this But you know what,

1262
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: his head coach isn't Bill Belichick anymore, and he's not

1263
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady anymore, or at least the Tom Brady that

1264
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: you know became the greatest quarterback ever. So I think

1265
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: this game is dicey. I like the Bucks in this game,

1266
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: but just assume since Tom Brady is behind center, that

1267
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: they are going to get right. This could be a

1268
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: tough game. And I kid marked because I know you

1269
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: love Matt Rule with every fiber of your being. Yes,

1270
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: it was a good start. They got out of the Gate,

1271
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: and they were competitive, they put up points. So this

1272
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: is not gonna be a Panther's team that is going

1273
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: to be a complete team that's gonna roll over for

1274
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: the great Tom Brady. This could be could be a

1275
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: tough one for Tommy boy. Also, where was Bronk in

1276
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: that offense? I no, he, I think he played a

1277
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: fair number of snaps compared to the other didn't but

1278
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: it didn't look great. We'll he he wasn't moving to

1279
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense though, is why I'm surprised you guys

1280
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: think this will be so feisty. Uh. I really believe

1281
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: in this Bucks defense being a difference maker, and and

1282
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: he gives Brady a nice margin for air. Yeah, that's

1283
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: that's a good point too. Alright, Mark Snakes to you,

1284
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: It's Snakes to me. I'm gonna go Bucks. Got got

1285
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of one o'clock games here. It's going to

1286
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: be a busy Sunday. Might have to just wanted these

1287
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: out to Luke and Calton to watch on different television.

1288
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: But um, I'm gonna go Giants at Bears. What's that

1289
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: good stall tactic there? Yes? Everyone, it absolutely was. Look,

1290
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: we got a list, A lot of lists are on

1291
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: a laptop. I loved what I saw from the Giants

1292
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: on Monday night. They are a very incomplete team. I'm

1293
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: not saying that they're a great team. I just had

1294
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: fun watching them, and I grew up watching the Giants,

1295
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: so it's really just probably more dipped in nostalgia than

1296
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: it is anything else. Um. You know, they were dealing

1297
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: with the Steelers defense that basically said you're not going

1298
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: to run the ball at all tonight. Um and everyone,

1299
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, fantasy heads who have se Kwan Barkley or like,

1300
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, cutting off their arms and legs at this point, well,

1301
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: hang around because I think it's gonna get a little

1302
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: bit better. I don't float. Don't cut over your fantasy star, right,

1303
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: that would be an overreaction. I just want to see

1304
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: the growth of Daniel Jones. For as frustrated as I

1305
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: get by Mr r Bisky, Um, Daniel Jones makes a

1306
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes too, alright, But for something about him,

1307
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: his style, his aggressive nature, his daring do I'm all

1308
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: about it. I love it, and I think that like

1309
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: the Giants are fun and they you know, you look

1310
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the game nineteen play drive that

1311
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: ended to no points all right, you want to have points.

1312
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: We get that, but they follow it up with a

1313
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: thirteen play drive for seventy yards in a touchdown. I

1314
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: just see an offense that's gonna grow as the year

1315
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: goes along. Do I think that Jason Garrett is the

1316
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: first person I'd want is my play caller? I don't know,

1317
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: not head coach, but I I I'm the jury is

1318
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: out on on you know, ruling against him as a

1319
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: play caller. I think this. I think there's a lot

1320
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: of weapons here, and maybe am I am I alone here?

1321
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: I think you guys like Daniel Jones too. I just

1322
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: think this matchup is interesting. I think the Giants are

1323
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna win. I've I'm gonna do a Greg thing here.

1324
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: I came very close to locking up the gmn um,

1325
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: but well, it felt it's a little bit too like

1326
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: what I normally do, which is gets sold into something

1327
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: and then on Sunday around five o'clock California time, I'm thinking,

1328
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: what were you smoking back on Thursday when you made

1329
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: this pick on a podcast? So I'm sticking with my

1330
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: first luck. Well, guess what, Let's bring in our great producer,

1331
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Erica tam Pose, because Ricky she has something she'd like

1332
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: to say. She's involved in the locks competition this year.

1333
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: She got off to a tough start. I believe, I

1334
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: believe she is. Oh and one, she needs a w

1335
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to start owing. Two and she's got

1336
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: something to say. The floor is yours, Erica Mark. I'm

1337
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna do your confidence for you, and I am gonna

1338
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: lock up the Giants because I think you know, the

1339
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: Bears really struggled last week until you know, got hot, Yeah, exactly,

1340
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: And I think you know Sa Kwan didn't get off

1341
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: to as big of a start as we expected to.

1342
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: And everyone talks about the Bears defense and Khalil Mack

1343
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,959
Speaker 1: and all this, and that, no, the Giants are gonna

1344
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: take it. Watch. I argue that the offense. You the

1345
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: fact that they hung in that Steelers game, and I

1346
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: know that the Steelers were clearly the better team and

1347
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: the game was kind of decided by the time he

1348
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: got into the fourth quarter, The fact that Jones kept

1349
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: them interesting and kept the offense moving when C Kwon

1350
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: Barkley was having a historically terrible game, there is reason

1351
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: to be excited. In fact, as a Jets fan, I

1352
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: was a little envious watching how comfortable Jones looked in

1353
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: the first game of the second year compared to the

1354
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: way Donald looked in the first game of his third year. So,

1355
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 1: Giants fans, don't despair. Now you got Ricky on your side,

1356
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like now everything And how about how

1357
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: about this? How about this? You know, everyone talks about

1358
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: the Giants defense like, is there any kind of major

1359
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, stars there. They were confusing Big Ben for

1360
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot of that game. So and tra Whisky is

1361
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: not Big Ben, I think so. I think that they

1362
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: were they were making they were putting a little bit

1363
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: more pressure on him than we would have expected the

1364
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: Giants to do. So tri Wisky is not Big Ben. Okay,

1365
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: so imagine what's going to happen? So what right, whatever

1366
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: you're saying? How about Trabisky the Giants? I thought the

1367
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Giants defense was gonna get absolutely shredded by the Steelers.

1368
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: That didn't quite play out that way. Trabisky has a

1369
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: nice set up here greg to string together back to

1370
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: back games. Well, at least, he only really played one

1371
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: good quarter in Week one, but the Giants defense should

1372
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: not be impossible for him to put together a few

1373
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: more scoring drives. Man, if you look at the Bear schedule,

1374
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: they don't play any good defenses for a long time.

1375
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: They barely play any really good defenses all season. It

1376
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: is setting up for Rabinsky, the fool of the Bears.

1377
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know. He was nine for twenty two

1378
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: to start that game. Even during that comeback, at one

1379
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: point he like threw the ball backwards and if if

1380
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: the Lions had just fallen on it, the game was over.

1381
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: And that was the blooper play that everyone's talking about.

1382
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: So I was not at all convinced in Robinsky. I mean,

1383
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: every catch that h Miller and Alan Robinson made seemed

1384
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: like they were amazing catches. And uh, I thought it

1385
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: was interesting if you listen to Joe Judge this week

1386
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: some comments he made about Danny Dimes. Man, he loves

1387
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: him some Danny Dimes. He said he loved how he

1388
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: stands in the pocket like a man. I mean, that's

1389
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: a Joe Judge comment. You know, he's like acting like

1390
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: a man. And he pointed out, I think that if

1391
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: you look at the all time greats, what they had

1392
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: around them early in his their career is a commonality.

1393
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: He was kind of saying, like, well, we don't really

1394
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: have that yet, so like, I'm gonna give this dude

1395
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: a break because I think he is special. Um. And

1396
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: now it was an interesting thing for Judge to say,

1397
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: like he was almost admitting that they're not there yet.

1398
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Ricky. I do the game picks

1399
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: u NFL dot Com game picks. I took the Giants too,

1400
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 1: So we're we're all. We're all on the Giant all right,

1401
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ricky. Great to see it. Um, all right,

1402
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: we move on. It comes back to me and I

1403
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: will do everyone a favor. I will take the San

1404
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners at the Meadow ends to face the

1405
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: New York Jets. And you know this is one of

1406
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: those It's turning into yet another Murphy's Law season for

1407
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: the Jets. In addition to having all their problems personnel wise,

1408
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: head coaching wise, now they're super banged up. Levy On

1409
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: Bell moved to injured reserve with a hamstring injury, so

1410
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: we won't see him till week five at the soonest uh,

1411
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder has been out of practice this week with

1412
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: a hamstring. And if if if they don't have Crowd

1413
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: or if they don't have Bell, who if they don't

1414
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: have Denzel Mims also on. I r this idea of

1415
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: Sam Donald having any chance of success. I just don't

1416
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: sit And he played terribly Donald in Week one. On

1417
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: top of everything else, he missed throws and he did

1418
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: not make the right decisions, and he did the type

1419
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: of bone headed mistakes that need to be out of

1420
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: his game by now. But again, it's like, I don't

1421
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: know how you expect him to be better when Chris

1422
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: Hogan is on the outside. Chris Hogan picked off off

1423
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: the street. And I said before the show starts today,

1424
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: I honestly think because I played softball with Greg couple

1425
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: of years ago, and he moves pretty well for a

1426
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: man deep into his forties, I think that Greg would

1427
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: do better getting open in the slot than than Hogan

1428
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: could on a football field at this stage. And so

1429
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: the Jets offense is not going to score a lot

1430
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,919
Speaker 1: of points, and it's a perfect setup for the Niners,

1431
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: who it's not easy for a West Coast team to

1432
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: come fly east and play an early game, which is

1433
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: what's happening here. But I mean, come on, Niners, you

1434
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: are the defending conference champions. You got humbled a little

1435
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: bit in Week one and I know you're dealing with

1436
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: your own injury issues because your quarterback, your golden boy,

1437
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy g went up high on George Kittle and gave

1438
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: him a sprain knee, so we don't know what's going

1439
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: on with him. Their wide receivers are still banged up,

1440
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: of course, but you're the Niners. You should swallow up

1441
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: this Jets team with your defense and then making enough plays,

1442
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: find a way on offense, and just get out of

1443
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: get out of Jersey with a seven to ten win,

1444
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: and then get everything back on track. There's no excuses

1445
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: here for the Niners, no excuses at all. I would

1446
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: like to see Greg get jammed about at the line

1447
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: of scrimmage by Patrick Peterson and see how open he

1448
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: got on the field. But beyond that, I mean, that

1449
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: was the nicest thing Dan's ever said to me. Yeah,

1450
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: that short area quickly, it seems right. I'm gonna be

1451
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be, you know, rocking those feet.

1452
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what you say, you know what, they're

1453
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: just moving quickly. No, you got it. You you had

1454
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: it right when you said I'm gonna be rocking those feet.

1455
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: I won't take it away from you. Different word I

1456
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: think this is a big game for whehe must start like, um,

1457
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: he had a you know, a couple of big plays

1458
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: last week. They've got a lot of good backs, But

1459
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: why keep it simple? I mean, you're really banged up. Uh,

1460
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: you know, I just if I'm the Niners, I'm with

1461
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: you Dan that there's no excuse not to Uh, you know,

1462
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 1: there's no excuse. And I the one my one concern

1463
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: about Sam Donald, and it's this. It's it's overt and

1464
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: it's obvious, and it's the same concern I have about

1465
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland's quarterback and a lot of young quarterbacks

1466
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: that get to year three and you're not seeing a

1467
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: lot of progress. It's just the mismanagement around him. And

1468
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: just I'm I just wish we could have a cleaner

1469
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: look into how he's being treated week to week and coached,

1470
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: because you really want to see growth, because there are

1471
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: these moments from Sam Donald and it's it's streaky, but

1472
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: they'll he'll have it sometimes would be like two games

1473
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: in a row where everyone's back on board because he

1474
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: can do everything that you ask, but then it goes away.

1475
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: And so I think some of that is coaching and

1476
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: some of that is getting you know, building confidence. Um,

1477
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: you know, none of us are quarterback gurus, but you

1478
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: know when you watch a player make a leap, a

1479
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the ecosystem around him,

1480
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: and then the coaches and the people in his ear

1481
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: and just the schooling going on along with the physical

1482
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: skills that he has. So the concern is what's going

1483
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: on around Sam Donald. And that's why I said it's

1484
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: Merphy's law because in addition to the questions you have

1485
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: and everyone has about Adam Gaze and is this rebuilt

1486
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: offensive line gonna take then you just get the Jetsy stuff,

1487
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: which is Mims, Bell and Crowd are all banged up.

1488
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: It's like this was not a team that had depth

1489
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: to start with on offense. And if you take them

1490
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: all out of play potentially by week two, well, how

1491
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: do you how do you learn anything? Right? It says

1492
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: It says everything that Hogan stepped off the street right

1493
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: into playing every snap. But you want to see better

1494
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: instincts out of Donald and that's and yeah, maybe his

1495
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: head is just scrambled. But you know, Baldy had a

1496
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: great breakdown this week where he's on the run on

1497
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: a play and he's got a receiver deep and that's

1498
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: just the scrambled drill. And you haven't seen Donald create

1499
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: as much as you would hope when he is on

1500
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: the run and things aren't going well. And then you

1501
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: get to the stuff that that you mentioned, Dan, which

1502
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: is coaching, which is like they're taking delay of games

1503
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: after kickoffs. They're like running screens in the middle of

1504
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: the field with no time out with seconds left. And

1505
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: to me that that is more coaching. You can't put

1506
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: that on a third year quarterback. It's just where they

1507
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: don't look organized, like, yeah, you want Donald to take

1508
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: control of the situation, but that that's ugly and that

1509
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: that can't continue or else. Yeah, we see Greg Williams

1510
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: as the head coach of this team. I think they

1511
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: got a chance in this game. I mean, let's not

1512
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: undersell the forty niners injuries. They're missing Richard Sherman. They

1513
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: might be missing a killer weatherspoon, they're missing I youk

1514
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 1: right now. De Ford looked like a shell of himself

1515
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: when he was on the field last week, did not

1516
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: play well like they They are banged up too, So

1517
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: I think the Jets have a little bit of a

1518
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: chance here. We'll see, all right, we have one more

1519
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: game according to my calculations, and Greg, you're picking it

1520
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: all right. I got the old Jaguars tight ends kind

1521
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: of deserves Yeah, well the Titans. To me, you know

1522
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: there'll be a special defense. Um when I see it,

1523
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe that there are a difference maker on deference.

1524
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I think the Jaguards, who played efficient

1525
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: football last week, are gonna be a problem for Tennessee

1526
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: in this game. This this is one of those games, um,

1527
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: move the rainmakers tempted to come out. I mean, I

1528
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know, should he just do it? I guess why not.

1529
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I like the Jaguars to keep this

1530
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: game close. I am surprised that the Titans are being

1531
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: viewed as some big time juggernaut favorite in any situation.

1532
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they've earned that. Their sloppy last week.

1533
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: They were a nine and seven team a year ago.

1534
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: That that caught fire at the end, But on balance,

1535
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: they were a nine and seven team. And I think

1536
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: your boy Mark Gardner Minshew and Jay Gruden could be

1537
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: a perfect parent and it could be so good that

1538
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna make them think we should keep these two together.

1539
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: I loved what I saw out of them last week,

1540
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: and I think the offense that Ruten runs can't Minshew

1541
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: just be a better version of Dalton or even maybe

1542
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,480
Speaker 1: a similar version to Cousins, but with a little more athleticism.

1543
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: I think he can and I think this is the

1544
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: offense for him. Yeah. You know the one thing that

1545
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: I noticed from Minshew and it it was it was

1546
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: happening early last year and you were thinking, is he

1547
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: just not having to think too much because he's so

1548
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: he's in there and he's so raw that a lot

1549
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: of times he used his feet to turn a negative

1550
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: play into a positive. I think it's a legit trade

1551
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: of his. And you know, I know that if you

1552
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: look at that game, part of it is that Philip

1553
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: rivers Um is accountable for throwing two interceptions pretty deep

1554
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: in Jaguars territory. So two of those, you know, the

1555
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: scoring some of the scoring for Jacksonville with short field stuff,

1556
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: but the nineteen to twenty isn't because you know, Minshew

1557
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: was some sort of gun slinger, you know, whipping the

1558
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 1: ball down field. I think he's well coached by Gruden,

1559
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: and West said it on the on our Sunday Night

1560
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: Show that he he took what they gave on defense,

1561
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. The Tennessee is not imposing their

1562
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: will necessarily yet on outside of the ball. So Jacksonville

1563
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: in general kind of James Robinson ran, well, this is

1564
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 1: one of the first, one of the few rookies, undrafted

1565
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: rookies to ever start Week one in NFL lore And

1566
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: he looked, was he the first? I mean, it's like,

1567
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: that's it's it's it's it surprises me that it's that

1568
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: better than he did. And I was gonna say one

1569
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: thing about Fournett. I think that, like you know, people

1570
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: were killing Jacksonville for the for Net pick flaming out,

1571
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: and it did. But here's the thing. I think that

1572
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: removing for Net opens up that offense to what it

1573
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: can be. I'm not saying that they're all there, but

1574
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: it was additioned by subtraction. And Robinson doesn't need to

1575
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: do what for Net did in some games of old.

1576
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: He's a good piece in there. And I got, like C. J.

1577
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Henderson on defense, I just the whole tank thing. There

1578
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: are some young players on this team in general that

1579
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of hope. I'm not saying

1580
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: that this regime should be around to do it for

1581
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: the fifth time. But they're not the worst team in

1582
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: the NFL at this point. They don't look like it. Mark,

1583
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: I have something to say. I you know, I was

1584
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,959
Speaker 1: been I've been a little slow to come around on Minshew.

1585
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: Part of that was, as you like to say, Twitter

1586
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: Middle School was a little bit annoying quite frankly last year.

1587
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: And the love affair with all the moxie and the

1588
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: the do rag and the hair split down the middle

1589
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: and the mustache element of Gardner Minshew and we looked

1590
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: past what was a pretty hot and cold first season.

1591
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: But I love the and the Andy Dalton uh mentioned there,

1592
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: and the fact that it connects directly to Jake Ruden

1593
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: he used to coach coach Dalton. I feel like for

1594
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: me personally, I'm raising the bar up for Minshew as

1595
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: just this novelty guy to someone that has like a

1596
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: Dalton type ceiling now, and I know that ceiling is

1597
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: probably not a Super Bowl ceiling, but a guy that

1598
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: in the right set up with the right coaching Uh.

1599
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: He plays differently in the Dalton did, and he certainly

1600
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 1: has more charisma than Dalton did, so he's more exciting

1601
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: and that's why he's a huge fan favorite. But he's

1602
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: a guy that you could win games with. And it

1603
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: it's not just this fluke about the way he looks

1604
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: and the things he says in the sound bite. So

1605
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: I I was really into the way he played and

1606
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: he and I think it's sustainable with Jake Ruden there uh,

1607
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: not nineteen for twenty every week. But I'm I get it.

1608
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: If you're a Jaguars fan watching that game, it's like,

1609
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I forget about this tank for Trevor thing,

1610
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: let's see how this plays out. Would means you well,

1611
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: and I and so the Minshovians dan, we'll take what

1612
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: we can get, and I and I honestly appreciate that

1613
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: that's an honest appraisal. And here's the thing. If your gardner, Minshew,

1614
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: I see a guy that clearly is putting in the work.

1615
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: It's not just Hamm running around in a cut off

1616
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: shirt in a bandana and my hair is flowing. I

1617
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: see someone that has learned a new offense quickly, and

1618
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: you know, really last year, probably didn't expect to play

1619
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: at all and was learning on the fly. So I'm

1620
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: with you that I'm not saying he's you know, Brett

1621
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 1: Farve or something, but Andy Dalton, and he's just a

1622
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: little spicier and more interesting than Andy Dalton. It's hard

1623
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,480
Speaker 1: not to be UM. So I like a little combination,

1624
01:17:54,479 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: a lot more, a lot more old Andy. You mentioned

1625
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: he might not have like if Dalton's the ceiling, which

1626
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: seems fair. I think Dalton's had a really solid career, UM,

1627
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: but maybe not a super Bowl. My favorite take I

1628
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: think I've seen all year, if, like, if we had

1629
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 1: a segment take of the week, I'd give it the

1630
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: Mike Renner of PFF who said that the Jaggers could

1631
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl with Minshew in two thousand

1632
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: and seventeen. And I thought about it, and I was like, yeah,

1633
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: so I really think they could have. I really think

1634
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 1: they could have. Um and and we didn't. We touched

1635
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: on this obviously on the Tuesday podcast the when we

1636
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,440
Speaker 1: recap the Titans wild win over the Broncos. Stephen Gaskowski

1637
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: is still on this team. He's still the kicker of

1638
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: the Titans. Mike Rabel got behind him, and that only

1639
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: last as long as Week two last and and how

1640
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: he kicks in that game, because if he struggles again,

1641
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: and I mean miss is one kick from inside, you know,

1642
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: forty seven yards. It's probably gonna be a hea gown

1643
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: situation to use a Westling is um. And I just wanted,

1644
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: while we're here and talking about kickers, and I'm gonna

1645
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: invite you guys in, although you're not professional, place kickers

1646
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: into the Kickers club. Come on in. It's a closed

1647
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: door meeting. We're closing the door of the club. We're

1648
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: putting the velvet ropes up. No one's allowed in. And

1649
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm disappointed. And all you guys,

1650
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: I know you're better than this. You know you're better

1651
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: than this. I mean, Week one was an absolute travesty.

1652
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: I have some numbers. Nineteen field goals missed, five miss

1653
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: p A t S Packers Vikings was the only game

1654
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: that didn't feature a missed kick, the only game. Are

1655
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,440
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Seventy one point six percent field goal percentage,

1656
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: the lowest since Week one nine, the most misses in

1657
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: almost a decade. That that's the you know, everyone else

1658
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: is in a pandemic and and there's no tackling, and

1659
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: there's no practices, and they were able to get on

1660
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: the field in Week one and deliver your kickers, your

1661
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: kickers like you had all the time to practice and

1662
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: all you needed was the uprights. And that's how you

1663
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: should open week one. You come into the Kicker Club,

1664
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: you come with your head held high, but you also

1665
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: better come prepared, and you weren't ready in week one.

1666
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: This meeting is over, but I do not want to

1667
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: have this conversation again in week two. Well it's a

1668
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: good it's a good message. They need a stern talking to.

1669
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: But Dan, you you know, the kicking in general kind

1670
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: of has gone south since you, you know, you raised

1671
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: the you You've you created this club. It's a vibrant, um,

1672
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: lively night spot for kickers to hang out. Are they

1673
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: hanging out at the club too much? Are they there

1674
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: too late? Are there are there bodies in shape? You know,

1675
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: pre club, we didn't have these issues, so you know,

1676
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: just it's it's a factor. Well, plus week we have

1677
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: a we have a raging pandemic. Maybe we opened that

1678
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: club up a little too early, you know what I'm saying.

1679
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: We have a lot of we have contact tracing, We

1680
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: have those wrist bands that well you were just sitting there, Greg,

1681
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: so you have whatever they had, all right, So there

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Speaker 1: you go. That is the full week two previous late.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Thursday night recap of

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Speaker 1: Brown's Bengals Mark. Obviously we're taping this before that happens,

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Speaker 1: That's why he seems okay right now in that of catatonic.

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Speaker 1: And then come back on Sunday for the recap of

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Speaker 1: the full UH slate of games that we just previewed

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Speaker 1: right here on the Around the NFL Podcast flagship show.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for watching, thank you for listening. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansons signing off for The Quiet Storm, the

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Speaker 1: Old Boss and Rocky Hollywood from West Hollywood until Sunday night.

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