Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantasy Bros. Football Podcast. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Derek Brown of today's show. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: NFL Combine, risers and ballers from testing from the QB,
Speaker 1: running back and wide receivers from Saturday. All right, Erickson.
Speaker 1: Before we get to all these players, we are going
Speaker 1: to be doing also a show recapping the combine on
Speaker 1: Monday with Joey p So getting that out there for everybody.
Speaker 1: Let's kick this off, dude, into the risers. This is
Speaker 1: your guy, your loveless guy. I'm gonna let you have
Speaker 1: all the avenue to talk about. Bay Shall Tutin, your man,
Speaker 1: your man crush ericson the floor, is yours.
Speaker 2: Bea Shall Tuton, running back from Virginia Tech. He blew
Speaker 2: all the expectations I had coming into the combine. I
Speaker 2: knew that he was exposed a he exposed it on tape.
Speaker 2: He was exposive at Virginia Tech. Yards after the catch,
Speaker 2: our yards after contact, forcing missed tackles, but two in
Speaker 2: just me. He ran the fast forty time among the
Speaker 2: running backs, four three two four yard dash. He originally
Speaker 2: his first run was fourth th tote eight and that
Speaker 2: had caught my attention as one of the fastest time
Speaker 2: for the running backs, and then his second run of
Speaker 2: four to three to two. You combine that with his
Speaker 2: jumps both in the ninety fifth percent out or higher
Speaker 2: in both the vert and broad broad jump. I mean,
Speaker 2: Pishal Tuton, he has to be the number one winner.
Speaker 2: I think we're just looking at expectations going in. I
Speaker 2: mean at this guy. When we looked at this guy
Speaker 2: at the podiums, there wasn't a lot of people around.
Speaker 2: He wasn't, you know, creating a crowd because we weren't.
Speaker 2: The consensus was not excited about Bushell Tuton, but a
Speaker 2: lot of the sharp fantasy gamers were on Tuton, and
Speaker 2: he was someone that I talked about a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. So I'm super excited to see that he
Speaker 2: hit the ground running here, blazed the forty yard dash time,
Speaker 2: and he did this at above two hundred pounds. So
Speaker 2: this isn't a sub smaller running back. I mean, his
Speaker 2: four yard dash time was the same as Devon h
Speaker 2: chen Hn was weighed significantly less than Mishal Tuton. So
Speaker 2: super excited for him, and and he's he's going way
Speaker 2: up on the rookie running back rankings. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to keep him outside the top six,
Speaker 2: maybe even crack some top fives. So sell tooton big
Speaker 2: winner from today in the NFL scouting Combine.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with everything he'd laid out there, Eric sent,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna lead me into a guy that was
Speaker 1: already inside my top five wide receivers, my wide receiver
Speaker 1: four entering the combine. You just took a victory leapt
Speaker 1: and stretched the hamstrings on Beashall too, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it again for Jalen Knowle. And look, Jalen Nole
Speaker 1: went out on social media before the combine and had
Speaker 1: to tell people on social media how to properly pronounce
Speaker 1: his name. I will own this. I messed it up
Speaker 1: before going to Senior Bowl, but I'm here to tell everybody.
Speaker 1: If you didn't know how to spell Jalen Nole's name
Speaker 1: perfectly before the Combine, I promise you after the NFL
Speaker 1: Combine you better put respect on his name and say
Speaker 1: it right. Jalen Knowle crushed the combine. He went out
Speaker 1: there and ran a four three nine, jumped out the gym.
Speaker 1: The burt was amazing. This guy is going round too
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft. I'm here to tell you that's
Speaker 1: the evaluation that I had on him coming into the
Speaker 1: combine that is not changed after he crushed the combine
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Love this guy. I'm gonna be drafting him
Speaker 1: in every single Dynasty Rookie Draft, best Ball, all the places,
Speaker 1: as much as I possibly can. I love him. I
Speaker 1: love him, And I consider and talk about Jalen Nole
Speaker 1: for another fifteen minutes ericson, and before I do that,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just go in and kick it right
Speaker 1: back to you for Matthew Golden, who in his own
Speaker 1: right ran even faster than Jalen Nole.
Speaker 2: Yes, Matthew Golden ran pretty fast four to nine official
Speaker 2: forty yard dash time the Texas wide receiver. Mean, he
Speaker 2: did it all when it comes to stealing the show.
Speaker 2: We had a bunch of Texas players come out before
Speaker 2: testing saying that they were gonna break Xavier Worthy's forty
Speaker 2: yard dash time, they were gonna be the fastest there
Speaker 2: on Saturday running. But it was Matthew Golden, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the players that seemed the most modest during
Speaker 2: his press conferences. During his podium interviews, where he was
Speaker 2: just really excited to be there taking the moment. And
Speaker 2: that's all Matthew Golden has done. So this goes beyond
Speaker 2: what he ran in the forty yard dashtime because his
Speaker 2: profile is really strong. He had another great year at
Speaker 2: Texas after first two years playing at Houston. Actually was
Speaker 2: with Tank Dell as a freshman at Houston, and he's
Speaker 2: always showed up with the biggest moments, even the same
Speaker 2: to be said for him at Texas. In some of
Speaker 2: the Texas big games during the College Football Playoff, Matthew
Speaker 2: Golden was the one delivering, and he delivered once again
Speaker 2: when the shine was on some of these other players
Speaker 2: from Texas. And now he's the one that stepped up
Speaker 2: at the NFL scouting combine. Again. I thought he was fast,
Speaker 2: I thought he was explosive, but to the extent of
Speaker 2: four two nine, I was blown away. And I think
Speaker 2: that he's definitely cemented himself as a top four wide
Speaker 2: receiver in this draft class. So Matthew Golden, hats off
Speaker 2: to you, man. I will say too, I'm going back
Speaker 2: to Nola real quick. Jayden Higgins, the other receiver from
Speaker 2: Iowa State, I think, also looked pretty impressive as a
Speaker 2: bigger body X wide receiver, someone I think that is
Speaker 2: maybe going to be a Round two selection. I think
Speaker 2: that both Iowa State receivers did really well in the drills,
Speaker 2: and I think they have analytical profiles that back it up.
Speaker 2: So excited to see where he ends up going as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he kept all that perfectly man. And
Speaker 1: this kind of leads us. We're talking a lot about
Speaker 1: Texas players here. We talked about one that crushed the combine,
Speaker 1: backed up everything he didn't have to tell everybody at
Speaker 1: the combine. Let's transition this over to the followers and
Speaker 1: the guy that couldn't apparently back up anything he said
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL combine. Ericson telling you about all
Speaker 1: the pain and the slowness of Isaiah Bond.
Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond, Man, he is consistently letting everybody down. Like
Speaker 2: that is really the case here with Isaia Bon. We
Speaker 2: actually got the opportunity to talk to some people that
Speaker 2: were following Bond throughout his college career, going back from
Speaker 2: Alabama to Texas, and he is the one player that seemingly,
Speaker 2: no matter what, is going to let you down in
Speaker 2: the biggest moment. So he sets the bar very very high,
Speaker 2: lofty expectation. He just doesn't deliver. And it was the
Speaker 2: exact same thing we saw play out at the scouting combine.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm going to break the forty yard dash record.
Speaker 2: I'm going to run four two. Not the case. And
Speaker 2: it sucks because running a four to four or I
Speaker 2: think four to three nine was his official time. That's
Speaker 2: not a bad time. That's fast for a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: That's a really good time. But the fact that this
Speaker 2: was married with, oh, well, all the other expectations, well,
Speaker 2: that's where it becomes a disappointment. That's where he becomes
Speaker 2: a follower, because it's all about weighing in expectation versus reality. Well,
Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond, you sick the expectation you're going to be
Speaker 2: blazing fast. Well you weren't. You were slower than your
Speaker 2: teammate Matthew Golden. So Isaiah Bond for me, is someone
Speaker 2: that I'm looking far away from in fantasy football drafts.
Speaker 2: He's falling very far in my in my my rookie ranking,
Speaker 2: especially at the wide receiver position, because I just don't
Speaker 2: want any part of this guy. Man, Like he's going
Speaker 2: to be a flash in the pan even if he
Speaker 2: hits uh, I just I don't want a piece of them,
Speaker 2: d bro.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything he said there, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: like to me, these guys know they're testing numbers before
Speaker 1: they come in. It's not like you're just putting on
Speaker 1: cleats and it's the first time you ever run a forty,
Speaker 1: So you're just kinda shooting in the dark with the
Speaker 1: time that you're gonna run. So to go in do
Speaker 1: the combine and to run your mouth and say you're
Speaker 1: gonna break the record and go out and run a
Speaker 1: four four one, I'm sorry, Like, you're not even in
Speaker 1: the stratosphere of breaking the combine record. So next time,
Speaker 1: speak softly, carry a big stick bond because it didn't
Speaker 1: work out for you this time. So I'm gonna lead
Speaker 1: into my guy coming into the combine. I was expecting
Speaker 1: him to run in the four fours low four fours
Speaker 1: did not happen, owning ganel here ericson and this is
Speaker 1: this is painful for me. Caleb Johnson running in the
Speaker 1: four fives, four five, seven. Look, I don't think this
Speaker 1: is a coffin nail for Caleb Johnson. I don't think
Speaker 1: that this is what's going to And I know we're
Speaker 1: bringing up darned followers, and I sound like I'm just capitulating,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to make up for loving this guy
Speaker 1: so much my RB two coming into the combine, But
Speaker 1: I want to be real about this. Yes, can this
Speaker 1: push him down boards? I do not think this makes
Speaker 1: him fall out of the second round of the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Can this be the determinating factor between h whether he
Speaker 1: goes round one or round two? Possibly? But you look
Speaker 1: at the other analytics about it, miles per hour, max bead,
Speaker 1: all these types of things. None of this was bad.
Speaker 1: So and running a four five seven is not bad either,
Speaker 1: especially when you're hulked up. You're a bigger running back.
Speaker 1: It's not like he was five eight and one ninety
Speaker 1: and he goes out there and runs like in the
Speaker 1: four fives and lets down expectations. So, KITTLEB. Johnson, we're
Speaker 1: putting him in the followers only because, yes, does this
Speaker 1: possibly ding his NFL draft stock a little bit? Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe the determining factor whether he goes round one or
Speaker 1: round two. But I don't think that this is anywhere
Speaker 1: close to Okay, he's RB three and you're pushing him
Speaker 1: to RB six, RB seven, RB five whatever in your
Speaker 1: rookie rankings. But for a guy that we're about to
Speaker 1: get to here, staying with another Johnson here, but a
Speaker 1: smaller one. We're gonna talk about Tes Johnson Ericson. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to tee you up here and just lead
Speaker 1: this off and say, at one hundred and fifty five pounds,
Speaker 1: considering the forty he ran, he is undraftable in every
Speaker 1: single fantasy format. Tell the people what you think about
Speaker 1: Tes Johnson? And am I wrong that he should be
Speaker 1: off of everybody's draft boards for fantasy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Tes from Oregon. He clocked a four I believe
Speaker 2: it was a four or five to one official forty
Speaker 2: yard dash time, So it was actually slower than Tanked Dell.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like the main comparison you're looking
Speaker 2: at when it comes to Tes Johnson. Can he be
Speaker 2: success at the NFL level? Well, Tank Dell was a
Speaker 2: success at the NFL level, depending on how your your
Speaker 2: perspective on it. Obviously success is a rookie. But you know,
Speaker 2: he's slower than Tanked del by a little bit. He's
Speaker 2: smaller than Tank Dell by a little bit, and that's
Speaker 2: just like the biggest concern. Man. I just don't think
Speaker 2: that this archetype of player is one that you want
Speaker 2: to bet on hitting. I would I feel very strongly
Speaker 2: saying that Tank Dell is an outlier, so just betting on, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the next Tank Dell. I feel like
Speaker 2: that that's being very aggressive, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: we try to be process oriented here again. You know,
Speaker 2: they're going to be outliers every single or I don't
Speaker 2: even really know, maybe not every single draft, but outliers exist.
Speaker 2: You know, have to acknowledge them, and you can gain
Speaker 2: a big advantage by hitting on the right outliers. But
Speaker 2: betting on this guy to be the next Tank Dell,
Speaker 2: who's also dealing with his own injury issues at the moment,
Speaker 2: I think is kind of like a false practice. So
Speaker 2: for me, Tess Johnson, again, I get the analytical profile,
Speaker 2: very strong numbers at Oregon and the fact that he's
Speaker 2: a you know, he's a really good rout run like,
Speaker 2: he does have speed, he is a route runner. He
Speaker 2: can get open, but how long is that going to
Speaker 2: last at his weight in size, at the NFL level,
Speaker 2: It's a big concern. So again, not all these guys
Speaker 2: are gonna hit. You know, there's a reason there's risers,
Speaker 2: are the reason there's followers, and it's just because of
Speaker 2: his forty yard dash. I mean he had issues even
Speaker 2: if he had run a four, three five, right, There's
Speaker 2: still be potential holes in his game that you could
Speaker 2: poke at. But now you're adding another layer into that analysis.
Speaker 2: So for me, yes, Test Johnson is someone that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not looking. I'm definitely not circling on my rookie draft,
Speaker 2: so I got to get Test Johnson. I'm definitely not
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and like I just for
Speaker 1: all the great things that people want to talk about
Speaker 1: with Tesz Johnson, there are so many differences between him
Speaker 1: and Tank Dell playing the slot versus playing the perimeter,
Speaker 1: having a ten pound difference, having a speed difference, all
Speaker 1: these parts or pieces. I mean, I think this all
Speaker 1: just again leads us back to you cannot draft tes Johnson.
Speaker 1: You cannot bet on outliers of outliers of outliers every
Speaker 1: single time, or you're going to hate the roster that
Speaker 1: you build, whether it's redraft or dynasty or any type
Speaker 1: of fantasy format. So look, we talked about risers, talked
Speaker 1: about followers. That's it for us people. The NFL Combine
Speaker 1: has been fantastic and we got a ton of content
Speaker 1: both on the site at Fantasypros dot com and coming soon.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through all of this again and more
Speaker 1: with joeyp on YouTube on Monday on the podcast again,
Speaker 1: Seth and I gonna be back for the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: Show or on the Dynasty Feed talking more prospects, all
Speaker 1: the things taking you all the way up to the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft fre ericson and I signing off from Indy.
Speaker 1: Has been a wonderful week at the NFL Combine, but
Speaker 1: guess what we're out of here.
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