WEBVTT - Conversations About Nate Dogg Never Smiling 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:02.480 What's up? 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.439 And welcome back to another episode of No Sinner's Podcast 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.720 with your hosts Now fuck that with your load glasses. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:18.400 Malone Irish whiskey very all. Yeah, I got the. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.680 Ad to get like a nicer version of it because 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.000 I got this little thing with short shelves, so they 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.200 only sell a bottle looks like a kettle that will 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.160 fit in the shelf instead of the regular bottle. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.920 But it's better than the regular bottle, so right, So 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.280 why do. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.519 You drink Irish risky versus like a Scottish whiskey like 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:42.040 a Scotch. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.640 I like both, They're different. Irish whiskey is usually a 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.920 little bit sweeter, a little lighter. Scotch is a little 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.600 bit drier, sometimes a little harsher, a little smokier. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.240 When processes are different. So a bourbon is a whiskey 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:04.160 made in Kentucky, right, yeah, yeah, so you've all of 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.759 the whiskey comparisons. So you have Bourbons, which is because 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.880 it's it's a whiskey made of Kentucky or Tennessee. And 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.720 then the scots is a whiskey made in Scotland. Yes, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.520 then you have an Irish whiskey. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.160 Yeah. And then you've got Canadian whiskey, and I guess 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:20.120 Japanese whiskey. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:21.960 What is Japanese whiskey? 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.600 It's just like other whiskeys. It doesn't have. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.520 Is that, It's just that is definitely. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.440 Not in that case. Fire one up. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.479 And what about Canadian whiskey? I see uh Sam's club 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:42.600 sales Canadian whiskey. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.160 Yeah, like Crown Royals Canadian whiskey. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.000 Okay, Bourbon is like. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.160 Sweeter, but it's kind of harsh. Irish is like sweeter 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.280 and lighter. And Scotch is the most complex, but it's 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.560 the driest tasting. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.320 And what the fun does that mean that somebody who 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.840 don't drink when something is dry? 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.600 When something is dry, it means it's not sweet. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.000 Do you drink whiskey? Like, do you drink whiskey at all? Duce? 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.079 Is that your shit? Hey? 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.400 You know I do. I don't go as fuck? Do you? 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:18.720 Are you into it that deep? 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:24.600 No? No, just give me some koliac on me. I'm straight. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:26.640 Oh. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.160 By the way, speaking of Kooniak, the liquor store across 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.760 the street from me, either some Jamaicans or some Haitians 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.040 run the joint. They have a pyramid of all white 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.799 Hennessy in the store like five feet tall. They've got 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.799 like twenty some bottles retail. They sell it over the counter. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.519 How much it's in the US now? 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.400 Oh it is okay. Yeah, I don't know if they 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:51.720 snuck it off a boat at the port. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.000 That's even good though. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.639 That that shit tastes. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.280 It's like you smell alcohol when you fuck with that shit. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.960 Yeah. I never liked it. I just knew it was popular. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.560 It's like the shardonay of Konyak. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.959 Yeah, because it was only overseas, so once it start 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.920 coming over here, I mean, you know, niggas, it was 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.680 always like this ould Oh nigga got the white end 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.560 and see on day one seventy five a bottle type 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:15.839 of shit like me get out of here. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.280 Yeah, they got at like eighty nine bucks. Classes. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.240 I say the shardon Nay of Kgnak because it's like 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:23.760 I think it's skinless grape. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.480 Oh that's why, Yeah, that's why. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.000 It's all white. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.880 Oh, the skin gets at the color. You know, dudes, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.720 that there's no difference between brandy and kognac. The only 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:40.160 difference is where they made that. Yeah, what's the best 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:45.720 brandy you ever had? I don't know you don't even 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:51.520 fuck with brandy. Yeah nah no, I mean, you know 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.720 it's crazy. Cavasi ain't remind me of brandy. Well, remember 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:57.760 all kinds I don't know. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.920 I don't know no light good brandis. I've never seen 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.880 a good brandy. I guess like Sarak and ship like that. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.040 You know that ship brandy, Oh the Saraka. Here's a 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.000 French brandy. It's a brandy, which is weird because. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.960 It's a great vodka. It's a great vodka. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.120 No, Sarak makes a French brandy too. Oh, they makes 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.080 it weird because it ain't French. It is French, but 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.520 it's not made in that region. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.200 There's also Armagnac, which is like Koonyak, but it's the 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.560 region next door that has its own brand. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.040 See that's what it is. So it's really all the 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.719 same process to make all every Koonyak is a brandy. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:47.320 But they say every every Konnyak, So every Koonyak is 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.000 a brand made. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.640 It's Champagne for the sparkling wine, the. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.360 Same ship, exactly right. And I just think to myself, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.599 like most of the brothers I know never even tried 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.880 to find a specific brandy because brandy is the better 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.159 quality of liquor. I mean, I guess it could be. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:07.720 But ship. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.880 I'm sure if you made brandy with the same process, 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.839 it'll be the same ship. But I don't think niggas 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.040 really try to find a reasonably priced brandy that has 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.279 the same you know, character as as as traditional knyas 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.480 like Hennessy, And then every drinker I know actually tell 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.719 me Hennessy ain't really good like that. It's just kind 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.640 of like an acquired flavor after you drink long enough, you. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:39.640 Gotta it's got to be like XO or beyond in 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.479 the in the brandy world to really for it to 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:43.920 be good. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.640 You know what I mean, if you like, if you're 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:46.600 not spending. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.080 One hundreds, yeah, it's x so it is smoothie, yeah, 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:51.320 you know. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.200 And I don't be honest, you want to a great 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.720 cheat like I think Napoleon and ian J Brandy's they 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.960 both have an XO brand, Like XO brandy by ian 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.440 J is better than like vs. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.719 Hennessy is a third of the price. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.880 That's all age. That's all that. All that XO shit 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.880 is about a you know, pete. But all that is 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:20.000 about age. All that a najo blanco repsital is about age. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.560 All of them is just talking about how long they've 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.120 been sitting in barrels. It really is the same process. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.000 Just the longer it sitting the barrel, it you know, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.360 it becomes more valuable. Let me get storing your ship 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.720 like they charge your storage feet. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:37.600 Well, it's additionally like it's and like like wine, when 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.080 it's in the bottle, it's it continues to mature in 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.400 the bottle, but the spirits don't because they've been distilled. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.680 If you have your base spirit in oak, a lot 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:54.200 of those impurities they bleed out into the wood. So 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.000 if something's in wood for two years, it's gonna have 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.560 a lot more crap in it and a lot less 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:05.360 refined than if it's in wood for ten or twenty years. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.400 That's a bit of our game. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.840 So it's more of a temperature thing. You can't store y'all. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.560 You can't get your own mini barrels in store your 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.480 own sit because you need a certain temperature, right. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:13.880 You could, It's just fucking hard. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.640 I mean if you if you called up so and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.040 so and said, hey, I want a barrel, they'll sell 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.320 it to you. There's there's companies that you can invest 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.760 in that are funds like like alternative investment funds where 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.440 you can buy or participate in a collective purchase of 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.360 wines and agiable spirits and you buy the actual cask, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.360 remove it from inventory and it's yours to own, and 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.640 then you would sell it, you know, as an investment 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.840 ten years from now at a ten x you know 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:44.720 price point. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.600 No sellings. Gl I make a Peter. I'm back from 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.000 the A. I Make a Peter back in Florida. He 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.960 was in Atlanta, got down Reduchmac from the La Giants. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.560 If you full with Glasses alone and you heard any 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.680 of these alone albums that's been out, and you pretty 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.520 much heard Doucemack on half of the l A Giants whatever. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.360 Man, Ducemack got one of the hardest, best microphone voices 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:11.040 in the industry. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.400 I wish I had a voice like his. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:19.280 He owe that shit to Newport. He to cut Newport Man. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.160 Newport didn't do my voice as well, but it was. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.280 Did you know why it works for Deuce? Because Duce 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.200 is so fucking harsh on the mic, so it's like, oh, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.440 it's perfect. This nigga voice sound like to the way 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.240 you be talking. He talking crazy and shit, he be 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.480 saying that, Okay, makes sense that nigga would have his 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.440 voice and he can't crazy because he in such a 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.640 situation where you know, living life, life, got his stresses, 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.680 so the nigga need to smoke, but then he don't 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.280 want to smoke because he needs his voice. But then 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.840 the nigga stressed or smoking the only thing calming down 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:52.520 nigga and the vicious cycle. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.640 I've been smoking weed lately, though, that's not smoking. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.720 Your voice is gonna sound like Frank Sinatra. You're not 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.839 gonna have that cache no. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:09.720 More to aid Kendricks from the Temptations. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.160 That up. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.080 Now what you said, Pete was taking it out like 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.480 maybe a pot about it. What was you asking me about? 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.959 Oh, we were talking about beats per minuted and how 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.800 that kind of bluesy sort of like down Trodney, darker, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.920 angrier sort of sound out of you know, Atlanta and Memphis. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.240 It has a has a lower beats per mintent than 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.640 songs that do well in l A. And I was 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.880 wondering if you thought that some of the fact that 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:41.120 so much of LA's culture is New Orleans transplants, there 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.120 was a significant, you know, jazz. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.560 Footprint in l A. For a long time. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.520 If there's a relationship in beats, permittent and musical culture 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.800 that pulls from New Orleans that found a foothold in 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.200 LA rather than necessarily just straight down home you know, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.000 old southern town type. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:03.080 Of ship like the rest of So. Yeah, so it's 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.040 hell a tricky, right, because, like the West is in 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.360 a unique position because it's the last place to be 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.640 developed around the country, right, people came to the East first, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.880 South and the East first. The Midwest got developed South 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.840 obviously was there. The West kind of adopted its own 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:24.240 personality musically, right, which is funk. Right. We adopted that 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.280 in hip hop. That's our personality. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:26.600 Right. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.920 But if you think about it, like in correlation to 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.520 human beings, we're gonna have more pop music than anything. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.160 It's why rhythmic stations are so big on the West coast. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.520 It's kind of like the middle ground between urban and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.000 pop rhythmic, and we got a ton of rhythmic stations 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.720 on the West, you know what I mean. But the 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.280 South kind of has their thing with blues, right, and 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.400 that's where you get trapped, you know, to fill of traps. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.400 So it's all of this, like you said that down 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.680 trodden that down home Troden type of blues that they 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.600 make in the trap. And more than anything, it's important 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.959 because the sonics, you know, the sounds are getting richer, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:10.040 they're getting darker, so like the awight is hitting a 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.720 lot harder. The frequencies is a lot lower than ever before, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.440 you know what I mean. And I think that's where 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.040 the West is kind of coming up short. Like our 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.400 sounds was always in the middle, you know what I mean. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.559 We had a when it was the base, we was 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.880 doing fine. But as it going to that eight away 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.320 and it get deeper and darker and darker, the South 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.880 is having its way with the gang, but connecting it 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.520 to New Orleans right well, Marty grass jazz is a 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.599 bit funky. So if you listen to the like a 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:43.160 lot of their hip hop shit, uh the sausage, the sausage, 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.440 the way they be doing ay thing is it's kind 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.400 of it's that Marty Gras jazz has a funky feel 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.480 to it. So that's why the connection is there. You know, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.040 they they they they they Jazz is a lot more 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.000 festive than just regular traditionals at jazz, even when they 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.800 bury somebody at it, when they have a funeral and 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.240 they have that procession and they walking and they jam 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.280 and shit carrying the casket and shit looks. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:06.640 Like a good toime. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.560 Yeah for real, you know what I mean? So I 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.120 think our connection is there, Marty Gros Jazz is really 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.839 festive and funk music is fested, so we connect at 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:17.320 that point. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:23.200 Sure, But the bpms on like like what was the 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.320 cash money bpms or like that time, what's. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.319 The name of that style that all that game? 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.600 Yeah, yeah, probably somewhere between. Their real shit is probably 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.400 right about eighty seven eighty somewhere between eighty seven and ninety. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.520 I would have to ask head, but right off the 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.319 top of my head, they average is gonna be somewhere 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.800 between eighty seven and ninety because they ain't gonna have 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.800 nothing too much slower than eighty. But they will have 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.880 a lot of shit at one hundred, one hundred bpm 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.720 ninety eight bpm. A lot of that cash money, those 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.520 records like back that Ass Up is a fast song. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.080 you know what I mean. Uh, A lot of that 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.720 shit is faster. But you know, New Orleans always had 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.360 the cheat code to me because they can kind of 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.160 go down home trotting like a regular South, but or 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.800 they can make like this festive thing. And that's why 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.720 you look at a lot of those cash Money records 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.839 that was hell is successful, like back that ass up, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.560 Like you know what I mean them shit's high as 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.160 ninety BVM if I remember correctly, I mean they they 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.120 shit is jamming like that. It's all a jam. But 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.040 like when we was in Atlanta, right and we go 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.319 see zatve and shit, really what I was looking for 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.120 for day was just the bottom. I feel like the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.959 West is struggling musically because right there's a few things, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.839 but definitely our music don't have as much bottom as 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.280 the rest of the country. Like it's it gets darker 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.160 the rest of the country, you know, everywhere you go, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.880 and ours it would be you know, hell of pop. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.360 Everything is kind of the middle up top. But they 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.000 working for it. But I definitely think we got to 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.760 kind of implement more of what's going on down South 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.520 as far as the sound itself, not the rhythm, Like 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.840 we got to keep our rhythm. We gotta stay faster 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.040 because our life ain't as slow as down so like 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.839 our life. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.920 Is faster, not the style, just the phonics. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.160 So to spit you know. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.080 What, I'm talking about Duce. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:20.640 Yeah, man, you know what I don't. Man, you know, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.280 only listen to what I feel like listening to. Sure, Sure, but. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.240 I don't think we having a conversation of preference, right. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.120 I think what we're talking about is just because I 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.240 was explaining the peete. One of my ideas going down 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.000 South was to get that deepness of those sounds, like 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.520 them nigga sounds as dark as fuck. Like you hear 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.040 they ate a waits, they ate the waits is way 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:47.000 darker than ours now, right, Yeah. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.080 Like in the car West Coast beats could hit on 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.400 an eight. You need a fifteen for an ATL beat. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.760 There you go, great point, right, you know what I mean. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.000 And I think we missed some of that bottom And 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.480 that's why I said, but I don't think we can 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.760 slow the music down to make trap. That's the problem. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.560 We can't, you know what I mean. And it don't 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.760 fit our life. And I was more base lines. Yeah, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.800 and that's another problem. Like I think we had this 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.240 conversation about I had this conversation with you know, with 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.680 the hommy about Drake, like when Drake music started, like 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.720 his tone matches the baseline. So a lot of music 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.400 started losing the baseline when Drake kind of came about. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.520 If you listen to Drake music, you don't really have 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.280 a ton of baselines because his octave is the baseline. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.160 But it's also weird because to me, he don't have 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:36.120 enough soul to mask not having a baseline. I mean, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.000 like the shit that the shit he owned the real 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.760 texture of his tone, but he is close so forty 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.000 you know forty his producer being you know, the sonic 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.240 genius his is. They just got rid of the baseline 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.920 and start using eight. Oh wait, because if his shit 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.640 is where the where the baseline is his tone where 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.720 the baseline is you ever notice he uh below right 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.200 here where the base is at So they feeling the 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.880 whole bottom right and then they filling everything on top. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:05.880 So it's always gonna be a It's a lot of 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.200 eight A waight kicks shit like that, but it ain't 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.720 never a baseline because they feel like it a clash 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.320 and you know who worked like that to me too Quick? 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.200 Like if you notice Quick, a lot of the voices 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.320 Quick produced are higher because Quick depending on the baseline 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.080 a lot. So think of AMG sugar free, DJ Quick 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.480 himself second to none they always have, which is probably 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.480 the greatest challenge would have been moss Bird because that 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.280 would have been the lowest thing he had to deal 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:36.800 with as far as ms high seed voices above the baseline. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.200 So producing a song full is different. I mean, when 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.720 you actually produce a full song, it's a spectrum frequency. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.160 And I know we getting held of technical because but 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:53.920 it really matters. It's like we was up in the 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.400 bay and I was listening to a lot of the 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.440 Hyphee records, right, and I was thinking about it, he 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.600 was talking about it. Then I would compare it to 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.440 like Rick Rock, and I'm like, it's not full. The 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.400 frequency rainbow is not all the colors. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.200 It's really only really. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.119 At the top or at the bottom, and it's a 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.159 lot of mid that's missing. But then right, if you 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.680 go listen to Rick Rock, like h Yay Area or 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.480 a lot of his ship, it's gonna have all the 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.480 meds around, even the vocals. So when they just ate 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.399 away in melody, it's still a med that's going with 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.000 the melody. And as much as people don't believe that 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.479 the average everyday person can hear that they can feel it. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.560 Are there examples off the top of your head of. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:46.400 Like like saying, Nate Dogg being on tracks that had 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.040 really robust baselines where you did get that collision a 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.439 little bit or his song avoid of it. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.920 That's why they didn't really do it like that. I mean, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.119 if you listen into the song they did with a 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.320 shout out to uh my boy from V eight, because 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:06.920 it's slipping in my mind, I'm getting know what's the 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.720 nigga name? I'll be fucking with you more time he 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:15.280 produced for Virginia, So Big did I Got Love? You 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.400 know what I'm saying. Niggas don't really know that Big 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.879 did I Got Love? Big did off the uh the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:27.960 song with Nate and Corrupt pause, girls Girls All Pause, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.919 and the other one, Oh that might be Fred Girls 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.920 All Pause. He did do Girls All Pause. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.199 All the ones that didn't sound like super G funky. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.400 Yeah, it was like they were funky in their own regards. Sure, sure, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.640 I take that back. I got love his soul. That's 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.960 Donny Hathaway. Yeah, I just mean, I just. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:54.040 Mean, no, no, no. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.440 That's Donny Hathaway. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.159 I'm super l A. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.800 Yeah, he did. 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.720 Girls All Paused for Corrupt, they did. He did something. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.399 A lot of the sounds that song Streets is a 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:12.800 mother du oh yeah yeah right, he hard But I think, yeah, 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.240 you're right, Like there isn't a ton of funky ship 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.160 with Nate like that. It's usually like things that kind 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.479 of bleed in the funk, like like that Donnie Hathaway 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.880 sample that they used for I Got Love where they 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.040 take the soul but it had a bass and it 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.520 kind of made it funky a little bit, but it's 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:34.439 not really funky Warren g Regular which is uh, I 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.320 keep forgetting, you know what I mean, which is that 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.560 Blue Eyes soul that's kind of more jazz and soh 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:45.440 I key forgetting. How does a beatgo? Uh? 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.120 You know Kenny Kenny was his name, right? 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.080 Who who the originally did that song? 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.920 Michael McDonald McDonald's right, I get them McDonald from the 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:55.919 Doobie Brothers. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:57.160 So yeah, like. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.640 It just gets into of the space where And that's 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.560 a great point. Like if you think of the biggest 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:11.040 records with Nate, they're not really that funky, yeah you 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.960 know what I mean, Like even like like think about it, right, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:23.880 like Little Ghetto Boys, Donny Hathaway, Yeah. 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.960 The only one that's poty record. It's kind of funky 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:28.800 that's true. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:33.440 Yeah, no, no, no, no no. And battle Cat he 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.359 is Funky's hell a battle Cat got an R and 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.840 B style, so he'll have those melodies going with the 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.919 base where even if you lose the frequency listening to 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:46.360 him cad of layer that motherfucking baseline with other keys 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:46.960 and ship. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:47.960 So you never lose it. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.240 And Nate wasn't kind of a higher octave on that. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.919 Song he did Mommy's in made I'm so he laid it. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:02.560 He was, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah. Yeah. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.720 And what's what's funny is one of the biggest Nate 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.600 Dog songs that come to mind too, is that total 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.919 song This is Wherever I Want to be, I mean 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:18.640 with my loved ones. Yeah, that's a total song from here, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.679 you know. And they kind of had a walk. Shane's 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.560 still around, right, Shan's still an I ain't I haven't 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:27.080 total to him. 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.919