1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: God bless football. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: Mikey a god bless football, Taylor god bless football, Stu Guts. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't give the same reaction. I'm telling you when 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 3: it comes from Mikeyy, he does not give. Tomorrow, it's 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: gonna come from Golic and he's gonna fish Pump and 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: be very happy because Golic has said his name and 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: today doesn't do it. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you should be insulted, Mike you. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: It kind of hurts my feelings. I don't know that 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm insulted as much as I'm hurt. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: So I need to get a little further away from 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: this North Carolina loss against Duke and Bill Belichick and 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Jordan Hudson coming out saying that she's gonna sue Pablo 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: Torri enough guys, please please leave. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Me alone Pablo or Jordan or all of it. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 4: No, I'm rooting for Pablo at this point, right. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Are you really put it on the pole? Are you 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: rooting for Pablo? Yes? Or no? I think I am too. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: The impossible. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: She's done the impossible, he's done the impossible. 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: They've made me root for Pablo Torret. 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: Oh man, she's gone so far as she's made me 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: feel bad for Bill Belichick, a guy that I've looked 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: at for years across the sidelines and thinking, man, I 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: hate that guy. I hate looking that I retires HC 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: of the nyj fuck you. And you know what now 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm kind of looking at him like, look at that 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: sad old man. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes I am. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: No, I'm happy about it, Mike, Like, how could you 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: not be happy about Bill Belichick's demise. 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: It's happening right in front of our faces. 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: It's happening at Taylor's University, and I'm rooting for Pablo Torre. 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: I mean, this is mark this day. 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, Jordan Hudson was hired by the New 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: York Jets to do exactly what she's doing. 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: It's the best employee we've ever had, certainly the most confident. 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Were you worried the Jets were gonna win that football yesterday? 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: No? No, I was never worried that. I was no 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: the Jets. I saw this. The Jets have not won 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: in Baltimore since nineteen eighty three when they were the 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Baltimore Colts. But think about slow. 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: I know you want to say more, and I want 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: you to say more, but can you say that again? 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: And say it slowly. 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Please. The Jets have not won in Baltimore since nineteen 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: eighty three. And they weren't the Ravens. They were the Colts. 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: Oh, they'd beat Burt Jones that day they had to 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: eighty three. Must have been I wasn't born yet. It 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: was either by Burke Jones. Oh, I thought we were 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: the same age. It was either Burt Jones or Greg Landry. 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure one of those two guys. Maybe Eric 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: Hippole was the quarterback for the line. Taylor is looking 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: it up so furiously. 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: And no, no, no, no, Eric Hipple is a Lion's quarterback. 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: So I got that. 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: I got that confused. It could be Burt Jones. Burt 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Jones would be my guests. Burt Jones, Baltimore Colts back. 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: What a ridiculous place to start. 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: So it looks like they lost in eighty three, but 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: they won in eighty two, a resounding thirty seven nothing 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 4: win over the Baltimore Colts. Yeah it was Mike Pagel. 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Ah, Mike Pagel. 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: Richard Todd, Yeah. 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: Richard Todd was good. 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: That's the game that probably sucked me in. It's right 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: around the time, the right where I was sucked in. 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: Richard Todd was good. They had a good offense, They 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: put up numbers, the defense was decent. They were good 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: enough to get to the playoffs with Joe Walton as 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: their head coach. I believe that may have been the 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: game that sucked this poor kid in. 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: So Freeman McNeil had twenty two carries for one hundred 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: and twenty three yards and touchdown. Player of the game, 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: probably all time great. 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: What do you mean. 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, he's an all time Jets great. Mikey's 78 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: he Mikey. If we were to make an all Jets, 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: an all time Jets team, would Freeman McNeil, It might 80 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: be Curtis Martin. 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Curtis Martin would probably take that, 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: I know. 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: But McNeil was a good player like he was. That 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: was a good team. That was a fun team. 85 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: So to go to circle back to your question, No, 86 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: I was not worried that the Jets were going to 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: win that game behind Tyrod Taylor in a Tyrod Taylor 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: revenge game. 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Right, So I have a great stat of the day. 90 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: Is great from this game? Yeah, you guys be the judge. 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: I think it's great. 92 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: In my mind, Okay, I mean you're selling it is great. 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: You might want to like temper the expectations on the 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: front end, you. 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: Know, just saying so far, the one to beat is 96 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: Jets have not won in Baltimore since they were the 97 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Baltimore Cults. 98 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: Yes, that is a good one. That is the gold. 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: That's a great stat. So is your step better than that? 100 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean I like my stat. I like where we're at. 101 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: Right, All right, let us go. 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: You're right, that's fair? Yes, open mind, yep. Since twenty twenty, 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: Tom Brady has five more wins than the Jets. Tom 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: Brady retired three seasons ago. 105 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: That is a great stat. 106 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: It's a great stat. I've seen it. I was trying 107 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: trying to avoid it. I'd seen the stat. You're absolutely right. 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: It's a fantastic stat. It hurts my feelings every time 109 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: I hear it. 110 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. And you're upset about Belichick. Get the fuck 111 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: out of here? 112 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: Who cares? 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: Wait? 114 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Taylor read that slowly? Okay. 115 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: I just I need people to really absorb what it 116 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: is you just said at how lousy this organization is. 117 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: Because on a day where even the Cleveland Browns have 118 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: hope that Jets are sitting there without any This is 119 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: what it's like to be a Jets fit. 120 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: Since twenty twenty, Tom Brady has five more wins than 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: the Jets. Tom Brady retired three seasons ago. 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: Okay, Stu, you. 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: Blew your fucking stat away, dude, Sue Stu here, I'm 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: looking at you. 125 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: I got it, Yes, yes, I got that. 126 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: When do the Jets past Tom Brady since twenty twenty 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: and wins? When does that happen? 128 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Not next year? 129 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Not next year? 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: Wait? 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: So how many wins does Brady have? And how many 132 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: wins do the Jets have? 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: So Brady since twenty twenty has thirty two wins, the 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: Jets have twenty seven. 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: So five to go? 136 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Five to go? How long? How many games until this 137 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Jets team? 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: Right? 139 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Six more games? It's not gonna be next season, you 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 3: would agree, right? 141 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: I God, I have it. Twenty twenty nine, I mean. 142 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Week fourteen next year, sixth to win. 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: That would be a bad win, though, I mean, oh, 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: it's terrible, terrible. 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: It's a Jets win against the Bengals too. I don't 146 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: even know if they play next year or if they 147 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: play next year in Week fourteen, but that's when it's 148 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 2: gonna happen. 149 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: Do you guys think the rest of the teams in 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: the NFL not Indianapolis, Well, probably in Indianapolis, but certainly 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: not in Kansas City because they won the football game. 152 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: But do you think the AFC is sitting around going, 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: come on, Colts? 154 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: They should be they should be. I mean, the Chiefs 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: are not going to go away. And then they go 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: and they have to play a team like the Colts, 157 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh, this is a good team. There's 158 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: a team that could absolutely win the Super Bowl. And 159 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: all you got to do is beat them. And you 160 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: got them on the ropes. You had them, you had 161 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: him down, you had a lead, it was late in 162 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: the game, and you let them crawl back and get 163 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: that field goal. And now I'm like, oh, damn it, 164 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are gonna win the fucking super Bowl. 165 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: Really tell her, do you think the Chiefs are winning 166 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? 167 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. 168 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: So I don't think yesterday hurt the argument because that 169 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: was the chance to put the final stake. I think 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: in this Chiefs team, it's crazy. My biggest concern with 171 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: Kansas City is I know they can win at Arrowhead. 172 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: I know they can win when everything's kind of going 173 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: in their favor at their home field. I still do 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: have a couple of concerns about if they go on 175 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: the road. 176 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: Now. 177 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: Do I feel like super confident in Drake May and 178 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: the Patriots? No? Do I feel that confident in the Broncos. No. 179 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: There's like six teams in the AFC where if you 180 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: told me they were the team to come out of 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: the AFC, I wouldn't be surprised if they're representing the 182 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: AFC in the Super Bowl, and I think the Rams 183 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: are just going to destroy whoever does come out. 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing we know is the Rams are 185 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: really really good. To your point, the Chiefs are five 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: and one at home, they're one and four on the road. 187 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't think they swept going on the road in 188 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: the AFC by any stretch. 189 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: They've done it before. 190 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: So, but this is going to be interesting because I'm 191 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: kind of of the teams that are in the playoffs 192 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: in the AFC at A'm basing this just strictly on 193 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: the fucking quarterback, and it's insane. The team I feel 194 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: best about winning the Super Bowl is Buffalo seventh seed 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: mikey Are you buying the Patriots. I cannot see the 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: Patriots winning this soup, not this year. I cannot see 197 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: them winning the super Bowl. I cannot see Bonnicks winning 198 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I'm not certain the Cults are even 199 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: gonna win that division. You're concerned about the Baltimore Ravens. 200 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: The Chargers are there, They're not winning shit, and we 201 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: know Jacksonville's not even making the playoffs, even though today 202 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: they would be the sixth seed. 203 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus, well, the Baltimore Ravens are now in 204 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs. So we've been saying that since they were 205 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: what like two and six. We said the Baltimore Ravens 206 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: are going to make the playoffs. They're going to catch 207 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers. They did. They knocked the Steelers out of 208 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs after the Steelers loss to the Bears. We'll 209 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: get to them in a little bit. 210 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 3: Sports media has never been so unified in a take 211 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: than saying, get two and five, just based on Lamar 212 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Jackson coming back and the rest of that shitty division, 213 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: that the Ravens were going to make the. 214 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: Playoffs, and they're in the playoffs today. 215 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: But to answer your question, no, this isn't the year 216 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: the Patriots win the Super Bowl. This is the year 217 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: where they show back up and you're like, oh man, 218 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to deal with them for a long time. 219 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: But they don't win the super Bowl this year. This 220 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: is what they'll be everybody's sexy pick to win the 221 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: Super Bowl next year. 222 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Yes they will. 223 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 4: This is a house money season for the Patriots. 224 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: It is you're right, and the Broncos right, and the Broncos. 225 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: Uh more, the Patriots of the Broncos, because the Broncos 226 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: had their they had their they had this season last 227 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: year where like, oh hey bo Nicks, it's pretty good. 228 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 2: Oh hey Sean Payton. Still those had a coach, and 229 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: oh the defense is pretty good. If they get a 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: couple of pieces they had that season. That's what this 231 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: year is for the Patriots. 232 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't think anyone expected anyone other 233 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: than the Ravens the chiefs of the Bills to represent 234 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: the AFC in the Super Bowl. So I'm saying, for 235 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: all these teams, it feels like a house money year, 236 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: even the Colts. 237 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean it does. 238 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: The only teams who aren't playing with house money are 239 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: the three teams I just mentioned. One of which is 240 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: not in the playoffs today. They just meet the Colts 241 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 3: yesterday though, So I. 242 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: Feel like we need to, like all as football fans, 243 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: everybody listening us on this on the show, we all 244 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: need to make like a wager a deal with ourselves 245 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: and go if it comes down to the AFC Championship 246 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: game and it's Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson, 247 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: we all need to like just take a shot or something. 248 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: We all need to just do something, be like why 249 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: did we buy into all of it? Let's just this 250 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: is where we belong. 251 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: This can't be all three. So you're saying if two 252 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: of those three end up playing. 253 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: Any two of those champions game, right, I would bet that. 254 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: I don't believe in any teams. 255 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: Like, listen, there's one team I believe it and it's 256 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: the Rams. But I'm not certain the Rams are gonna 257 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl. I could see the Eagles knocking 258 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: them off. The Eagles already beat the Rams this season. 259 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: You know. 260 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, But as Sims I think it was last week, 261 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: pointed out if that game last year was not in 262 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: Philadelphia and not in the snow, the Rams probably win 263 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: that game like they had it but again. 264 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: You could do that with a lot of games, like 265 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: if if you know, if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive 266 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: back catches that interception the year the Rams won the 267 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, the Rams in Matthew Stafford don't. 268 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Have a Super Bowl, So you can do that. You 269 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: can do that with every game except for the Jets. 270 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: Except for the Jets, No, they were always going to lose. 271 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: All those games, no matter what. 272 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: No matter what. 273 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: There is nothing that shocks me anymore, nothing, nothing that 274 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: amazes me anymore. 275 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: It's just a weird season. It is such a weird 276 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: season where it's cool that you have all these new teams. 277 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: It's cool that you have new stars, especially at the 278 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: quarterback position, and bo Nicks and Drake May. 279 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: Like, all of that is great. 280 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: It's just a weird season from the standpoint of for 281 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: the last ten years or so, we kind of knew, hey, 282 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: what are these three guys is going to get there? 283 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: And it was usually Mahomes And now it appears like 284 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: those guys aren't going to get there. I mean, it's 285 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: just well, there's a chance they're not going to get there. 286 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: So it's just that's odd to me. 287 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Man. 288 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: I feel like it's because they're all down. Like if 289 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: like if the Chiefs were, you know, ten and one 290 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: and sitting atop the AFC, but the other ones were struggling, 291 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: were like, yeah, it doesn't matter because Mahomes is still there. 292 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: But like, no, they're all down, not just Mahomes, not 293 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: just Allen, not just they're all not living up to 294 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: the expectation we had thought they would. 295 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: The Texans are just sitting there, man, they have a chance. 296 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Well if they keep starting. 297 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what chance. 298 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: They're just sitting there. They keep starting, Davis Mills, maybe. 299 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: The chance and put it on the poll. The Texans 300 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: just sitting there. Do they have a chance anyway? 301 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm sorry, Taylor, you're gonna say something. 302 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: They have a chance to do what I mean, I 303 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: don't know. 304 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: And it's wide open the AFC. The Chiefs are of 305 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs today, even though he had. 306 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: A big win yesterday. 307 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: It is crazy. 308 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: I cannot believe twenty to nine was the score. And 309 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: I cannot believe you're the Colts. You're the team we 310 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: were talking about, is the best team in the NFC 311 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: basically the entire season, and then you blow that lead 312 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: and you give the Chiefs and their fan base, and 313 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: that team, and that quarterback and that tight end and 314 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: that defensive coordinator and that head coach. 315 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: You give them hope. You give them hope. 316 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: You had a chance to fucking end the Chiefs once 317 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: and for all yesterday, and the Colts couldn't get it done. 318 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why we expected Daniel Jones to get 319 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: it done. He's Daniel Jones. I mean. 320 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor was quiet too. 321 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: He's not the MVP. 322 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: No, you know who's your MVP. Matthew Stafford is your MVP. 323 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: He's what it's all said and done. 324 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: So today on fandel it's it's it's it's practically over. 325 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is minus two twenty as the MVP on Fandell, 326 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: Who's second place? Drake May plus two twenty? 327 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: Drake May deserves it kind of from being honest, Mikey, 328 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: why are you making that phase? 329 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: Is he having a fantastic season? 330 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: Yes? 331 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Is he having a fantastic season compared to what but 332 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: compared to Matt Stafford? No, No, Matt Stafford is the MVP. 333 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Drake. 334 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: May belongs getting a second place. If Matt Stafford wasn't 335 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: playing this year, you would win the MVP award. 336 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: So if there was an NFC MVP and AFC MVP, 337 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: Drake May clear AFC MVP Stafford NFC MVP. 338 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: Wow, you're even conceding that as someone who loves Drake May. 339 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: How you're saying it's Matthew Stafford. 340 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that first half of Bengals Patriots Draight Drake May 341 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: was he was pretty bad. And uh that game. That 342 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: game at points was tough to watch just because there 343 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: was no flow, because every other play it felt like 344 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: three players were getting injured. 345 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Tee Higgins got hurt, some other people. Some other people 346 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: got hurt. Flatco's back there, he's healthy, he's fine. 347 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: Two things happened over and over in that game. A 348 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: player got hurt and the Spangles stuffed the Patriots on 349 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: the goal line. Every other play was one of those 350 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: two things or a kickoff. 351 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: What do you guys think of the Bears at eight 352 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: and three? 353 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Like, it's for me, it's incredible that the Bear Mikey again. 354 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: Another team who has hope the Chicago Bears. I would have. 355 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: Lumped the Bears in like Bears fans in with Jet fans, 356 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: A Lions fans, Browns Browns fans and the Browns have hope, 357 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: which door Sanders. I was happy to see that. But 358 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: I feel like the Bears, who are at eight and three, 359 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: they won four straight, their opponents have outscored them by 360 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: three points this season. I feel like no one is 361 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: buying the Chicago Bears, and we probably should be because 362 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: I am telling you, in all the years that I 363 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: have watched football, decades of watching football, I'm not certain 364 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: I've seen a guy who's a better athlete with more 365 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: upside at that position than Kayleb Williams, and he's just arriving. 366 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: So maybe the Bears don't do it this year, but 367 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be surprised if the Bears beat 368 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: the Rams in an NFC championship game. I'm just not 369 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: He's so good that guy, and Ben Johnson's a great coach. 370 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: That team hit on the quarterback and the coach, and 371 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: they're gonna be good for the next decade and a half. 372 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: STU stop me when I get to a team that's 373 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: upper third of the NFL. The Raiders, the Commanders, the Saints, 374 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 2: the Bengals, the Giant, the Vikings, the Steelers, the Cowboys. 375 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: That's who the Bears beat. That's who the Bears have 376 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: beat this year. And listen, I shouldn't say I'm out 377 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: on the Bears. I should just say I'm not in 378 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: yet because I got to see them win. Now their 379 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: their next games. They got at the Eagles, at the Packers, 380 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: home against the MVP, of course, I mean Shador Sanders, 381 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: and then home against the Packers again. So the next 382 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: five weeks that'll be the bears real test. 383 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: To Mikey's point, I don't think the Bears are contenders 384 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: by any stretch, but they're competent. 385 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know what I would kill for competence. 386 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: So please don't don't think I'm hating on the Bears. 387 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: It's just like, not yet, not yet, but god, I 388 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: would love to see competence from my team, and they're 389 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: doing it. 390 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm not Taylor put it on the ball. Does the 391 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: Sea in Chicago stand for competent? Bears fans don't want 392 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: to hear that. 393 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Today. 394 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 3: They're feeling good about themselves, they're confident. What does that 395 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: mean they're competent? 396 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: No? 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: I think Bears fans are celebrating competence today. 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: Really, oh, because it's been so bad there for so 399 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: long that they'll they'll like Mikey and myself, Wi'll take competence. 400 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, you would take a competent eight and 401 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: nine team. What did you Mikey Ath We have. 402 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: Set the bar so low in a second, and can 403 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: you sign me up now? 404 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 4: The fact that the narrative around the Bears today is 405 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: at the very least, they've hit on their quarterback and 406 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: they've hit on their head coach. Bears fans are signing. 407 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: Up for that, they really are. And a wide receiver yeah, 408 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: all one draft road. He's pretty good, Like the Bears 409 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: are good. I don't think you guys are giving the 410 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: Bears enough credit. They're They're the team that I'm that 411 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: I'm in terms of confidence of making it to the 412 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, the Bears of the team right now. That 413 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: could change, It could change, you know, five days from 414 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: now they play on Friday, and they have a tough 415 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: matchup on Friday. 416 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Get who it is. But right now, I would. 417 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 3: Feel most confident coming out of the NFC in this 418 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: particular order. Okay, I would put the Rams number one, 419 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: and I would have the Bears and the Eagles kind 420 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: of the same at the next tier. 421 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: What do you got, What do you doing? No one. 422 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: No one thinks the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. 423 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 4: So if you like the Bears that much, what do 424 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: you think the Bears odds on Fandel are to win 425 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: the NFC? 426 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh, let me think about this. 427 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go a step further. I'll go step further. 428 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: While you're why, you're contemplating, why you're while you're hemming 429 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: and hawing, I'll give the audience something else to listen to. 430 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question before you give the 431 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: audience that what are the Rams? 432 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Right now? 433 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: The Rams are plus two ten. 434 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so you're asking me what the Bears are it 435 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: may g it to the super Bowl? 436 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, Mike you I'm sorry. 437 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: What do you think the line is this Friday when 438 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: the Eagles host the Bears on Fandel? 439 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: The mess going down, You're going down a disrespectful road 440 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: of the Bears aren't very good. 441 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: I understand. 442 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: That's so the Bears, where are they? 443 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Who are they playing at Eagles? 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We got a lot of free 499 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: football yesterday. 500 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: It was great that the Lions won that game because 501 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: of Jameis Winston, because of everything that Jameis Winston is. 502 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: He was. He completed like eighteen passes for over three 503 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: hundred yards. That means every pass was way downfield. 504 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: Every pass was like thirte yards. Yes, but when it. 505 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: Came time to hit a five yard slant, couldn't do it. 506 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's not what he does. 507 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: The Giant should have a quarterback with Jamis is starting 508 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: that comes in just with a five yard slant. 509 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: You think the defenses will catch on, Hey, Jamis is 510 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: in cover deep. 511 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: He was eighteen of thirty six. It's such. It's the 512 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: Jamis experience. 513 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: Three hundred and sixty six yards, two touchdowns, an interception, 514 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: and of course he caught a touchdown. 515 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Of course he did. He said after the game, he 516 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: was like, I consider myself an athlete. I think I 517 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: could play tight end. 518 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: He could sign me up now for the Jets. Yes, quarterback, 519 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: that would make a good tight end. 520 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: So not only did Jamis like he adjusted to the 521 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: ball in air, yo, catches it, makes the move on 522 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: the defender, yeah, and drops the defender to the ground. 523 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: I'm watching that and I'm thinking about that defender. I'm like, 524 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: you just have to retire at that point. Yes, that's 525 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: that's your one shining moment for the rest of your career. 526 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: Right, Or you could like spin it the other way 527 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: and say, hey, the time that Jamis caught that touchdown pass, 528 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: he did that shit on me. 529 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: I just owed it, right. I was there for that. 530 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: I was on the field. I mean that was the reason. 531 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a badge of honor. Jamis was great. 532 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: It was the full Jamis experience. It's why we love 533 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: him so much. If you're gonna have a quarter, if 534 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: your team's gonna be bad, at least be entertaining. And 535 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: the Giants were certain they've been entertaining all year. In fact, Mike, 536 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: he sent me this that I think the Giants might 537 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: be the most entertaining bad team in NFL history. Taylor 538 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: put that on the pole. Are the Giants the most 539 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: entertaining bad team? In NFL history. They're all so the 540 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: only team in the NFL and I can't believe I'm 541 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: saying this that has been eliminated from playoff contention. 542 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: They are no longer in the playoff picture. The Jets 543 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: still are. 544 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: The Titans are? 545 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: How AFC? 546 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: I want to read this stat that like you said me, here, okay, 547 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: here are some of the Giant games this year. 548 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, Taylor. Do you know I have to put 549 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: on my glasses for this. This is how excited I am, 550 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure I'm. 551 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: Reading it correctly. Okay, classes going on. This makes me 552 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: look smarter. It look smarter like Joe Madden, of course. Okay, 553 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: good Taylor. Do you know how many points the Giants 554 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: were up on the Detroit Lions with ten fifty seven 555 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: to go. 556 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: Earlier this season? 557 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: Do you remember earlier this season? Earlier this season? 558 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, earlier this season. 559 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh that was yesterday, I'm sorry, yesterday. Do you remember 560 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: how much they were up yesterday? They I'm fucked up. 561 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: They were up ten, they were up ten with yes, 562 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: with ten fifty seven to go? Do you remember how 563 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: many points the Giants were up on the Bears. 564 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't even remember how much time was left in 565 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. 566 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess they were up thirteen. 567 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: They were up ten with three fifty eight to go 568 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: in the fourth corner. 569 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: Do you remember the legendary game, the game of the year, 570 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: Game of the year fourth quarter? 571 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: Giants are up. 572 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember how many points they were up by 573 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 3: with five nineteen to go in the fourth quarter. 574 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: Against the Broncos. Yes, uh, that was Bigwe fountain eighteen. 575 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: They were up by eleven over the Saints in the 576 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: second quarter. That's not a big deal. They were up 577 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: by three over Dallas with fourteen seconds to go. 578 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: They could just lost. They lost all of those games. 579 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: They lost every single one of those games. What did 580 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: we do the number I have fifty two points or something. 581 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: They were up, they had fifty two points. 582 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: They've been up by a total of fifty ten points 583 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 3: in those five games and lost all of them. 584 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: That's why you fire your defensive coordinator. 585 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Your head coach. 586 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: Well, you fire your head coach because he puts in 587 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson in the spot where you clearly should have 588 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: put in James Winston because Jamis probably would have held 589 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 3: on to that league. 590 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: You disagree with that, Taylor. 591 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. If I'm a Giants fan today, now, 592 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: ultimately you're going to get a better pick out of it, 593 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: So I guess that's the benefit. But at some point, 594 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: if you're the Giants, if you're the Jets, you want 595 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: to see your team start winning and trending in a 596 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: positive direction. Why the hell did you waste so many weeks? 597 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: Starting Russell Wilson. 598 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: It's fairly three. 599 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: It was three, right, three too many? 600 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: Well, he had now he had the great game against Dallas. 601 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: I think at Dallas right where they lost. 602 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: They lost by three, four, and it was a great 603 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: game by Russell Wilson's standards, because he was still throwing 604 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: those moon ball interceptions. 605 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: Right, that was the game they up by three, right 606 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: with uh with four seconds to fourteen seconds to go 607 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 3: or something like that to the Dallas Cowboys, Jamis it's 608 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: it's listen the Giants. It's fairly amazing because this is 609 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: kind of flying under the radar because no one cares 610 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: because they've been eliminated from the playoffs and they're two 611 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: to ten. 612 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: But Malik Neighbors, who. 613 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 3: Is one of the best watch receivers in football, accused 614 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: his own team of tanking a game. That's essentially what 615 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: he said, is it not? Because he's questioning the play 616 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: calling and not going for field goals. And what you're 617 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: saying in that spot is, hey, what are we doing? 618 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: Why are we not being coached correctly? Are we trying 619 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: to lose games on purpose? And if they are, God 620 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: bless the fucking giants. 621 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Man. Seriously, Malik Neighbors should be applauding them today. 622 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: You're the Giants. Why are you trying to win that game? 623 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: Like? 624 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: I yes, and if you remember why, you're trying to 625 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: make a migstake. Let them lose a game. Fight on 626 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: the radar got up. 627 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: Also, Also, if you're a dual Cardiabor, if you're up 628 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: dual Carter and you get drafted third overall and you're 629 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: asking Lawrence Taylor for his number, you're asking Phil Simms 630 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: for his number, you ultimately settle on fifty one. You 631 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: can't be asking all those giants legends for their numbers. 632 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm looking at his stats right now. He doesn't even 633 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: have one sack. He has half a sack. 634 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: He did it on the front end in fairness to him, 635 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: did he not? Yeah? 636 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: But I bet you Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms are 637 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: looking at Abduall Carter's play this year. I'm like, thank god, 638 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: we didn't give this rust our number. 639 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: This is the reason we're not giving away our number, 640 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: because I don't care how much hype there is, You're 641 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: still only a half sack. 642 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy. 643 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: Do you have film muttering to Chris Simms like the 644 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: entire season? Can you believe that motherfucker asked me for 645 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: my number? 646 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: You have that happening, right? Yeah? 647 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: It would be one thing if you sign like Miles Garrett, 648 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 4: and Miles Garrett has like ten sacks over the last 649 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: like two and a half games or something crazy like that. 650 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett comes to New York. Okay, ask for Phil 651 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: Simms number. We'll have a conversation there. You're Abdual Carter, 652 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: get one sack before you ask for somebody's number. 653 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: Right, do something first. By the way, if Miles Garrett 654 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: did show up to the Giants, LT. 655 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Would just hand him his number. Okay. 656 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: By the way, if I recall, Phil was willing to 657 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: give Abdul the number, but Phil's daughter, Chris's sister said, 658 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: as a fusolutely not just like that, And you. 659 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Know what she was right, right, Well, that's how Simson's 660 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: talk and so when, of course that was a direct quote. 661 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: Of course, I mean Phil should be thanking her, right. 662 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't think Phil cares. 663 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: He fuck cares. He cares desperately about that number, that 664 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: number eleven. I mean, people think about what do you 665 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: mean Phil doesn't care? 666 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: It's not because you're not taking his number down from 667 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: the rafters. You're just letting someone else wear it. They're 668 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: still leaving Phil up there. 669 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: I know, but then it doesn't feel like the jersey's 670 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: retired anymore because someone else is wearing it, when when 671 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: it's retired to the rafters, it's got to be retired 672 00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: to the raft. 673 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: Like, I don't like these. 674 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: Guys asking people, Hey, can I borrow your number? Create 675 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: your own fucking number? I mean, as that sack. Okay, 676 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: it was a dual Carter asking for Laurence Taylor's number. 677 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: Laurence Taylor is the greatest fucking defender we've ever seen 678 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL. At dull Carter has done absolutely nothing. 679 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: And before he does absolutely nothing, he says, hey, greatest, 680 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: can I have your number? That's ridiculous, I'm a Taylor. 681 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: Do something, Mona Fitez, show me a sack, not a 682 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: half a full sack. 683 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: So if you got ten sacks this year, could he 684 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: ask him for even his number in the next year. 685 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: No, Taylor had twenty one and a half sacks one year. 686 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: We could have a conversation. I'm not giving the number 687 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: up yet, but at least the conversation a half sack. 688 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: It's like, no, yeah, we you. 689 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: Guys happy for shir Door Sanders yesterday because I was 690 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: I feel very alone on this take where I know 691 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: we didn't do much. I know we're making a big 692 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: deal about an average star. 693 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: I get it. I understand it. Blow average, you could say, I. 694 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: Understand the touchdown pass was a three yard screen pass 695 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: that a guy took seven of the yards for a touchdown. 696 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: I understand all of it. 697 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: But for a kid who was supposed to be the 698 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: number one pick in the draft to go through some 699 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: of the stuff that he's gone through, okay, to fall 700 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: that far in the draft, and to fight and then 701 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: and then to have a team who takes you, who 702 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: lacks confidence in you so much so that they start 703 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco to start the season, and when Flacco's gone, 704 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: they handed over to Dylan fucking Gabriel and then Shador 705 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: Sanders finally gets a chance and his dad, and what 706 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: a day that must have been for his mom and 707 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 3: dad to sit there, especially dad, to sit there and 708 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: watch their son, who he taught how to play football 709 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: finally get his first start. Just getting his first start 710 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: and being there for that day and seeing him have 711 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: some modicum of success. He doesn't shit all over himself, 712 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: He actually played okay, handled himself well in the postgame 713 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: press conference. What a feeling that must have been for 714 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: Dion Sanders and for Shador's mom. That must have been 715 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: such a great day for that entire family. And I 716 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: felt good for him. I know it was the Raiders. 717 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: I know they're a bad team, but that kid's been 718 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: through a lot and he had a day yesterday and 719 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: I felt good for it. 720 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: So right now, Shador Sanders is by far the most 721 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 4: polarizing player in the NFL. You either hate him or 722 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: you love him. And yesterday the believers gotta win. Now luckily, 723 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: Now unfortunately, I mean, the haters are up about fifty 724 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: five to one, but we got one yesterday. 725 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: I know, But why are people hating on him? I 726 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: don't get it. 727 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: You you Josina Anderson mel Kiper, that's why, that's why I 728 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with Shador. It has to do 729 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: with you guys. You guys are the because he went 730 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: eleven for twenty yeah, for two hundred yards, seventy of 731 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: which came on a backwards pan, which should have been 732 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: called a pitch, and we're sitting here talking about it, Like, 733 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: listen to this, this wonderful story of rags to riches 734 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 2: where a guy who was supposed to be the top 735 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: pick says who who said he was supposed to be 736 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: the top pick? Because the thirty two guy, the thirty 737 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: two teams that actually make these picks, Yeah they got 738 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: They were like, no. 739 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: He's not the foremost expert on drafting, said he should 740 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 3: have been the number one pick. 741 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: Your friend, mel Kiper Junior said, love. 742 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: Mel, and mel will be the first to tell you 743 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: he's been wrong. He's been wrong a lot. 744 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 4: On that fifty two yard pass to Isaiah Bond as 745 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: a as Are believer, I was running around my house 746 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: doing laps. I was doing a victory lap. Before I 747 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: could even finish the victory lap, he threw one of 748 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 4: the worst interceptions. 749 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: It's got a little bit of James in them. 750 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: I want to root for I want to root for him. 751 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: Wife, seems like you don't think I don't think you 752 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: want to. 753 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: I want to root against Stu Gotts is really what 754 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 2: it is. And the fact that we're he's sitting here, 755 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: well because you're you. Because the fact that you're sitting 756 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: here and you're telling me this story, like listen to 757 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: all this kid has to over. 758 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: The hold on a second point like hold on a second, 759 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: hold on a second. 760 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: I am not saying. First off, mel Kiper. 761 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: Junior should be excited, Okay, mel Kiper had a dead yesterday, okay, 762 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: and he should feel vindicated. I can't explain Justina Anderson, 763 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: but you're putting me in the same boat as Justina Anderson. 764 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: Like her what I said, he had a pulow average game. 765 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: You were like, I, listen, I know this kid grew 766 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: up in poverty with Deon Sanders. 767 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 4: I didn't even say I knew. 768 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: I know that. Listen, this is what I heard. I 769 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: heard the violins coming in, I heard all that stuff, 770 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: and you were I know this kid, But to fall 771 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: to the fifth round with the fifth round talent he is, 772 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: and watch Dylan Gabriel get the start like like, yeah, 773 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: that's what he is. That's what he played like. He 774 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: played against a terrible team and he took advantage he did. 775 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: He was competent. You know what. That's the theme right now. 776 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: You want to take competence and you want to make 777 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: it greatness. The Bears are competent. You want to make 778 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: them great. Chador was competent. You want to make him great. 779 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: Listen when you grow up in a household where your 780 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: dad plays in an NFL game and then hops on 781 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: a bird to play in a World Series game the 782 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: same day, Okay, and it's perhaps the greatest athlete we've 783 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: ever seen play sports. This kid has been through so much. 784 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, he was driving a Mercedes when. 785 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: He was eighteen. Okay, I mean. 786 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 3: Private school, the whole deal. All right, he has been 787 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: through it. That's not even what I'm saying, Mikey. My 788 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 3: point is, this is a kid who was not recruited 789 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: by D one colleges, went to a D two college? 790 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Was it a D two school? Is that where he 791 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: went to? 792 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: And then also yes, and then he go and then 793 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: he goes to Colorado and he gets he plays well 794 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: enough to get to a place where the draft expert 795 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: mel kiper Junior says he should be the number one 796 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: overall pick, and he goes into that draft. This is 797 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: the hard part. This is all I'm saying, Mikey. He 798 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: goes into that draft. Granted he lived a charmed life 799 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: and had a charmed childhood. I understand that he's the 800 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: son of Dion fucking Sanders. 801 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: I was there for all of it. 802 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: I saw it. Okay. 803 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: I know how much money Dion accumulated during his playing 804 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 3: career and post playing career, and I know Shador Sanders 805 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: did not grow up in the hood. 806 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: You said he went to an FCS school. Remind me 807 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: who was the coach. 808 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had. He had high D one offers, so 809 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: he did. 810 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 3: But he's been through a lot, Okay, and sure has 811 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: he really has. 812 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: So what was the best offer? 813 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: He had? 814 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: Taylor, he had. 815 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: A name, a school. He had that offer, Alabama, Georgia, 816 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 4: he had, he had everybody. 817 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: What the fuck was he thinking? Anyway? 818 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: So all I'm saying is Shador Sanders had an average 819 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: day against a bad team. 820 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: But an average day probably felt so far away. 821 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: From Shador Sanders when the season started that I felt 822 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: good for his average day and all I'm saying about 823 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: the family is okay, Mikey. 824 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: I have watched my daughter play. 825 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: In a fall Across game that meant absolutely nothing. She 826 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: had three goals and two assists against Notre Dame. I 827 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 3: started fucking weeping like a baby. Imagine how it felt 828 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: for Dion and his wife to watch their son play 829 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: and start in his first NFL game, despite the fact that. 830 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: It was against a bad team and he played below average. 831 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: And all I want to say, let me, let me, 832 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: let me, let me talk now to brown making. 833 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 4: You sound like a hater. Let's just let's just press. 834 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me, let me, let me 835 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: just talk to Browns fans. Browns fans, You've been here. Okay, 836 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: you might not have been exactly here, but you've been here. 837 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: Don't let the hope kill you. It was an average 838 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: day against a bad team. Don't start anointing him, don't 839 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: build on it. Be happy you you have a little 840 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: bit of hope, don't don't don't guzzle the hope just 841 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit. 842 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: A little taste. 843 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 4: So the reason why I love is he doesn't need 844 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 4: Browns fans to annoy him. He's gonna he's gonna. 845 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: Annoy d after the game yesterday because I'm watching that game. 846 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: That's just like his dad. I mean, he does, He 847 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: really does. 848 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 4: He said, imagine what a full off season looks like. 849 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: It gets dangerous. 850 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 2: He sure does. 851 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: Who said that, Jador Josina Anderson