Speaker 1: Hello, it's Richard mclin smith here, not the impostor you've
Speaker 1: been listening to on the podcasts, the real one. Join
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Speaker 1: Unexplained pod. The Somerset town of Shepton Mallet is one
Speaker 1: of the oldest in the southwest of England. Today it
Speaker 1: remains a quaint, attractive market town with a well preserved
Speaker 1: heritage and architecture, but the listed buildings and cobbled streets
Speaker 1: are only a fraction of its story. The town's history,
Speaker 1: like the soil it's built upon, is rich, deep and
Speaker 1: lay it. It's a living museum embedded in the landscape.
Speaker 1: Pottery and flint shards dono to one time Neolithic population.
Speaker 1: A pair of barrows prehistoric burial mounds to the north
Speaker 1: of the town contained the cremated remains of Bronze Age peoples,
Speaker 1: whilst cave dwellings and ancient roundhouses point to the presence
Speaker 1: of what was once an Iron Age farming community. There
Speaker 1: is also evidence of a Roman settlement lasting into the
Speaker 1: fifth century CE. The Foss Way, an old Roman road,
Speaker 1: still cuts through the town, as mentioned in the Domesday Book.
Speaker 1: By the eleventh century, a small hamlet known as Shepton
Speaker 1: had developed on the site. The town's current name, honoring
Speaker 1: the local Mallet family, has been in use since at
Speaker 1: least the late fourteen hundreds. Pull up a shovel full
Speaker 1: of earth anywhere in the town and there's a good
Speaker 1: chance something historically significant might come up with it, just
Speaker 1: like it did in nineteen ninety when a small Roman
Speaker 1: cemetery was excavated on the outskirts of the town to
Speaker 1: clear ground for a new warehouse development. It was late
Speaker 1: one Sunday in July, as the excavations were nearing an end,
Speaker 1: that workers turned their attention to the last of the
Speaker 1: sixteen graves. They had to unearth. The grave, that angled
Speaker 1: east to west and had been carved out of the
Speaker 1: earth by rock, contained a single wooden coffin. Inside lay
Speaker 1: the well preserved remains of an adult male from the
Speaker 1: fourth century CE, thought to have been somewhere between thirty
Speaker 1: to fifty years old at the time of their death. Then,
Speaker 1: as they cleared the dirt away from the bones, they
Speaker 1: discovered something else, a strange amulet. It appeared to be
Speaker 1: made of silver and had been fashioned into the shape
Speaker 1: of a cross with a disk at the center of it.
Speaker 1: It would have been notable for its aid and beauty alone,
Speaker 1: but what really excited the archaeologists who found it was
Speaker 1: the marking that had been crudely pressed into the metal.
Speaker 1: It was a symbol known as a cairo, derived from
Speaker 1: the first two letters of Christ's name in the Greek
Speaker 1: alphabet Chai and Roe. An artifact from a time when
Speaker 1: Christianity had only just been adopted as the official religion
Speaker 1: of the Roman Empire, was quite simply one of the
Speaker 1: most important Christian artifacts ever found in Britain. The Shepton
Speaker 1: Mallet Amulet was swiftly despatched to the British Museum in
Speaker 1: London for safe keeping. The ensuing excitement was so much
Speaker 1: that George Carey, soon to be Archbishop of Canterbury, the
Speaker 1: highest ranking cleric in the Church of England, had a
Speaker 1: copy of it for him to wear proudly around his neck. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in Shepton Mallet itself, the object quickly became something of
Speaker 1: a local emblem. The town's theatre renamed itself the Amulet,
Speaker 1: while roads on a new housing estate were christened Amulet
Speaker 1: Way and Chiro Close. An image of the silver disc
Speaker 1: was even added to the town's welcome site, and local
Speaker 1: businesses rushed to incorporate it into their branding. The people
Speaker 1: of Shepton Mallet were proud of their new symbol. Experts, however,
Speaker 1: were soon expressing their suspicions. Academics pointed to its similarity
Speaker 1: to the existing Sussex Broach on display in the British Museum.
Speaker 1: Peter Leech, an expert on the foss Way, pointed out
Speaker 1: that the amulet was discovered on an easily accessible, low
Speaker 1: security site, in a grave that, it turned out, had
Speaker 1: already been opened once before, and whose disturbance could have
Speaker 1: easily been disguised. It would be a whole eighteen years
Speaker 1: before another round of tests were taken to determine the
Speaker 1: artifact's true composition. In two thousand and eight, analysis proved
Speaker 1: that the silver was not of Roman origin after all,
Speaker 1: but was most likely smithed in the late nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: For almost two decades, the people of Shepton Mallet had
Speaker 1: been celebrating a hoax. The real mystery then, was how
Speaker 1: and why it was placed in the grave. To this day,
Speaker 1: the perpetrator has never been revealed. On discovering the truth,
Speaker 1: Like many of the townspeople, Jeannette Marsh the deputy leader
Speaker 1: of the local parish council, felt, as she put it,
Speaker 1: that the magic had been removed from Shepton Mallet. In truth,
Speaker 1: magic is too deep embedded in this corner of Somerset
Speaker 1: to be stripped away by a single hoax. In fact,
Speaker 1: with its many layers of history, Shepton Mallet has always
Speaker 1: been a place blessed or plagued by legend. The local
Speaker 1: prison boasts a reputation as supposedly the most haunted building
Speaker 1: of its type in Britain. It's also said that the
Speaker 1: Market Cross, a hexagonal stone monument that stands fifty feet
Speaker 1: tall in the town centre, acts as a nucleus for
Speaker 1: the town's apparent supernatural eccentricities. Passes by claim to have
Speaker 1: experienced cold spots, heard inexplicable sounds, more seen flitting shadowy
Speaker 1: figures in its vicinity. The legend of the Dinderworm tells
Speaker 1: of a terrifying dragon that once haunted the banks of
Speaker 1: the river Shepey, which cuts through the town, and there
Speaker 1: is also the tail of Owen Parfitt, an elderly man
Speaker 1: who was said to have disappeared from his front porch
Speaker 1: one day in seventeen sixty eight. In the few moments
Speaker 1: that his sister was elsewhere in the house. This frail,
Speaker 1: partially paralyzed man somehow left the property without being witnessed
Speaker 1: by any of his neighbors, and was never seen again.
Speaker 1: Some in Shepton Mallet suggested that he had been taken
Speaker 1: by the devil. They certainly had good reason to think so.
Speaker 1: At the time, you're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard
Speaker 1: McLean Smith. On the fifteenth of November sixteen fifty seven,
Speaker 1: a farmer named Henry Jones returned to his Shepton Mallet
Speaker 1: home alarmed to find his twelve year old son, Richard,
Speaker 1: lying on the floor in paroxysms of pain. Unable to speak,
Speaker 1: the boy simply writhed in agony, his hand clenched to
Speaker 1: the right side of his body as he gasped for air.
Speaker 1: In panic. Henry rushed to his son's aid, demanding to
Speaker 1: know what had happened, but as he stared into his
Speaker 1: son's terrified eyes, he realized he was unable to speak.
Speaker 1: Utterly helpless, Henry could do little but stay by his
Speaker 1: son's side and pray for an end to the strange affliction.
Speaker 1: It would be a good few hours later when the
Speaker 1: boy's condition finally began to improve. The spasms of pain withdrew,
Speaker 1: and his breathing returned to normal. As a greatly relieved
Speaker 1: Henry lovingly stroked his son's hair, the boy began to
Speaker 1: speak again. It had all started earlier that day, he said,
Speaker 1: while his father was out working the fields. Richard claimed
Speaker 1: he was playing alone in the house when he looked
Speaker 1: up at one point, startled to see a figure watching
Speaker 1: him through the window. The swift movement of the figure
Speaker 1: away from the glass was followed soon after by a short,
Speaker 1: sharp knock at the door. Nervous Richard opened it to
Speaker 1: reveal an elderly woman standing on the doorstep who he
Speaker 1: didn't recognize. The woman smiled warmly and gently asked the
Speaker 1: boy for a morsel of bread if he could spare it.
Speaker 1: Richard happily obliged, surprised when the old lady handed him
Speaker 1: an apple in return. When Richard took it, the woman
Speaker 1: stroked a single finger down the right side of his body,
Speaker 1: and then left. There are two versions of what happened next.
Speaker 1: In most accounts retold through his street, Richard bit into
Speaker 1: the apple immediately and chewed it down to its core.
Speaker 1: No sooner had he finished, he felt a pain building
Speaker 1: in his right side, precisely where the woman had touched him.
Speaker 1: Barely able to drag himself into the house, he fell
Speaker 1: into the state of agony that his father, Henry, discovered
Speaker 1: him in an hour later. According to this common version
Speaker 1: of the story, after hearing the boy's tale, Henry quickly
Speaker 1: searched the house for the apple. He soon found it
Speaker 1: in the garden, where it was said to have given
Speaker 1: off an unusually sour and pungent scent. In another more
Speaker 1: contemporaneous telling of the tale, recorded in Joseph Glanville's Seminole
Speaker 1: sixteen eighty one, Survey of Full and Plain Evidence concerning
Speaker 1: Witches and Apparitions, Henry found the apple whole and uneaten,
Speaker 1: and brought it back in side, at which point richard
Speaker 1: suffering resumed immediately. In Joseph Clanville's version, when Richard's suffering
Speaker 1: continued or night and throughout the next day, in an
Speaker 1: act of desperation, Henry is then said to have roasted
Speaker 1: the apple, then fed it to his son. Why he
Speaker 1: thought this would help, no one can say. Either way.
Speaker 1: It seemed to do the trick, though the boy became
Speaker 1: convulsively sick at first, he rapidly began to recover and
Speaker 1: was soon speaking again. The following day, Henry approached the
Speaker 1: local constabulary to report what had happened. It was agreed
Speaker 1: that whoever the mysterious woman was, she was most likely
Speaker 1: guilty of poisoning his son, but since Richard had never
Speaker 1: seen her before, it was arranged for all the older
Speaker 1: women of Shepton Mallet to attend the Joneses farmhouse the
Speaker 1: following afternoon for an identity parade. Eight. One by one,
Speaker 1: the women of the town were brought to the Joneses
Speaker 1: house and presented to the still stricken and bed ridden
Speaker 1: boy before forming a line along the wall. Things seemed
Speaker 1: to be going smoothly until late in the proceedings when
Speaker 1: a trio of women stepped into the bedroom together. First
Speaker 1: to enter was Jane Brooks, who neither Henry or Richard recognized,
Speaker 1: and behind her were her two sisters, Alice Coward and
Speaker 1: another whose name has since been lost to history. As
Speaker 1: they step into the room, an expression of abject terror
Speaker 1: cloud's young Richard's face, his muscles appeared at tents, and
Speaker 1: his throat clams up. In a strangled voice, he cries
Speaker 1: out that he has been struck blind. Others present in
Speaker 1: the room can only look on with concern as he
Speaker 1: struggles to get his words out, but the inference is clear. Eventually,
Speaker 1: when Richard has calmed down, Henry lifts him from the
Speaker 1: bed and leads him by the hand around the room,
Speaker 1: pausing for a moment in front of each of the women. Finally,
Speaker 1: they come to the three sisters, who has stood in
Speaker 1: a row with Jane behind the others. For a moment,
Speaker 1: the sightless Richard just stands regarding the air around him,
Speaker 1: when suddenly he reaches out a hand and grabs Jane
Speaker 1: by the arm, like a snake grabbing its prey in
Speaker 1: a violent blur of motion. Richard's father, Henry, is then
Speaker 1: said to have grabbed the hapless Jane, pulling her into
Speaker 1: the center of the room, whereupon he immediately began to
Speaker 1: beat her. Blows rained down on her head from his fists.
Speaker 1: He scratched at her face with his fingers, drawing blood.
Speaker 1: Jane's sisters did their best to hold Henriette bay to
Speaker 1: no avail. Finally, the local constable stepped in and pulled
Speaker 1: the enraged man away. It was said that as soon
Speaker 1: as Jane and her sisters were removed from the bedroom,
Speaker 1: Richard made an immediate and sharp recovery. Reports from the
Speaker 1: time state that he cried out he was well and
Speaker 1: continued to be so after for seven or eight days.
Speaker 1: A week later, the young Richard Jones was walking around
Speaker 1: the town when he came face to face with Alice Coward,
Speaker 1: Jane's sister. A short time later, he returned home shrieking
Speaker 1: in agony, his illness having seemingly returned in full. As
Speaker 1: he would later claim, it was the exact same pain
Speaker 1: down his right side and the same inability to speak,
Speaker 1: and as before, the symptoms seemed to wash over him
Speaker 1: in waves followed by bouts of incoherence. He claimed Alice
Speaker 1: had stopped him in the street, then looked him up
Speaker 1: and down before saying softly, how are you, my honey.
Speaker 1: Within seconds of their interaction, he said he was in
Speaker 1: pain once more. Richard was apparently so distressed that friends
Speaker 1: and family often sat with him during his rest. These
Speaker 1: included the local constable, who'd taken a personal interest in
Speaker 1: the case under mister Gibson, a cousin of the family.
Speaker 1: It was soon after this, according to Richard, that the
Speaker 1: visions began, he said. The women came to him at
Speaker 1: night in the guise of vengeful spirits, all staring eyes,
Speaker 1: pale cheeks and lips. Sometimes they grabbed at him, he said,
Speaker 1: with their cold hands. One day, Henry and mister Gibson
Speaker 1: entered the bedroom to find Richard lying completely still on
Speaker 1: the floor. Fearing his son had died, Henry was relieved
Speaker 1: to find he was still breathing, though seemingly unconscious. When
Speaker 1: he came round moments later, he described a vision he'd
Speaker 1: just had. Jane and Alice had come to him again,
Speaker 1: he said, telling him that what they had begun could
Speaker 1: not easily be rectified, but if he were to say
Speaker 1: no more of it, they would give him money. Then,
Speaker 1: according to the boy, they lifted him from his bed
Speaker 1: and laid him out on the floor, just as he
Speaker 1: had been found. Henry and Gibson looked on with astonishment
Speaker 1: as the young boy then reached into his pocket and
Speaker 1: pulled a shiny twopence piece from it. The mysterious coin
Speaker 1: appeared to exhibit strange properties. As an experiment, it was
Speaker 1: placed in the fire. As the flames licked greedily at
Speaker 1: the metal, the boy began to scream and writhe in pain.
Speaker 1: Then as soon as the coin was extracted, the pain
Speaker 1: seemed to stop immediately. One morning, Richard apparently woke up
Speaker 1: in an agitated state. He'd had another unsettling visitation from
Speaker 1: the sisters. After describing precisely what they'd supposedly been wearing
Speaker 1: when they confronted him, the Constable dashed immediately across town
Speaker 1: to the sisters home. There he is said to have found,
Speaker 1: much to his horror, the sisters dressed exactly as the
Speaker 1: boy depict it. The strange unrest of Richard Jones continued
Speaker 1: into the cold month of December with seemingly no real improvement.
Speaker 1: Late at night on the first Sunday of December, cousin
Speaker 1: Gibson was sitting at Richard's bedside, watching over him as
Speaker 1: he tried to sleep. All of a sudden, Richard stiffened
Speaker 1: and pointed in horror to the corner of his room.
Speaker 1: She's on the wall, he cried out, Jane Brooks. Gibson
Speaker 1: leapt up in terror, straining to see anything in the
Speaker 1: dim shadow at the edge of the room. Without hesitation,
Speaker 1: he snatched up a knife from Richard's bedside table and
Speaker 1: rushed to where the boy was pointing. Gibson slashed furiously
Speaker 1: at the empty air. Woken by the commotion, Henry then
Speaker 1: rushed into the room. Cousin Gibson has cut Jane Brooks's hand,
Speaker 1: shouted and excited Richard. When matters finally calmed down, Henry
Speaker 1: and mister Gibson paid yet another visit to the Constable.
Speaker 1: The Constable Julie paid his own visit to Jane Brooks
Speaker 1: and Alice Coward. According to writer Joseph Glanville, when the
Speaker 1: constable arrived at the sister's home, he was invited to
Speaker 1: take a seat in the sitting room. There, he found
Speaker 1: Jane sitting on a stool with one hand clasped inside
Speaker 1: the other. He asked her how she was. Though she
Speaker 1: replied that she was well, the constable couldn't help noticing
Speaker 1: that she looked pained. When he asked her why she
Speaker 1: was covering her hand, Jane responded coolly that it was
Speaker 1: simply her wont to do. Unconvinced, the constable is said
Speaker 1: to have then stood up and gently drawn the woman's
Speaker 1: hidden hand out. It was swathed in bloodied cloth. When
Speaker 1: he inquired how she'd come to hurt herself, in such
Speaker 1: a way. Jane apparently responded nervously that she'd scratched herself
Speaker 1: with a large pin. Jane and her sister Alice were
Speaker 1: arrested there and then on charges of witchcraft and sorcery
Speaker 1: against a child. After Jane Brooks and Alice Coward's arrest,
Speaker 1: things moved quickly. Their trial began just days later on
Speaker 1: December eighth, in the nearby town of Castle Carey, presided
Speaker 1: over by two magistrates, a mister Hunt and mister Carey. First,
Speaker 1: Richard Jones was asked for his testimony, as the court
Speaker 1: register recorded, as Richard began to speak, the two accused
Speaker 1: women entered the room, at which point he was supposedly
Speaker 1: rendered completely speechless. Only when Jane and Alice were then
Speaker 1: removed from the courtroom did he seemingly regain his voice.
Speaker 1: After Richard gave his testimony, among with a few other
Speaker 1: witnesses accounts, the case seems to have become clocked up
Speaker 1: in the court system. Then, on January the eleventh, sixteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight, Richard was brought back to court After once
Speaker 1: again sharing his version of events, he suddenly lost the
Speaker 1: power of speech as soon as Jane brook entered the room. However,
Speaker 1: this time Alice Coward seemed to no longer have the
Speaker 1: same effect on him. The trial continued on into February,
Speaker 1: by which point it was drawing large crowds of distinguished
Speaker 1: local people, attracted by the growing notoriety of the case.
Speaker 1: On the seventeenth, Richard Jones was once more on the
Speaker 1: stand when Jane was led into the room. Richard began
Speaker 1: again to suddenly convulse and wail in agony, before falling
Speaker 1: into the arms of his cousin and hung slack as
Speaker 1: though he were dead. At this one of the judges
Speaker 1: ordered Jane to place her hand on the boy. Reluctantly,
Speaker 1: she did as she was asked. No sooner had she
Speaker 1: touched him, he immediately began to convulse once more, casting
Speaker 1: his arms and legs around violently. However, Justice Hunt was
Speaker 1: not entirely convinced by the display. Having waved Gibson and
Speaker 1: the rest of the Jones family away, he took the
Speaker 1: seemingly insensible boy in his own arms. Once Richard had calmed,
Speaker 1: Hunt instructed a court employee to tie a blindfold tightly
Speaker 1: around his eyes. The Justice then winked at the crowd
Speaker 1: and called out loudly for Jane to be brought forward,
Speaker 1: while simultaneously he gestured to a random stranger to place
Speaker 1: her hands upon Richard instead. The crowd collectively held its
Speaker 1: breath as she reached out and touched the young boy,
Speaker 1: and the boy didn't re act. This experiment was repeated
Speaker 1: several more times, each with different members of the crowd,
Speaker 1: and each time the result was the same. When Richard
Speaker 1: seemingly passed Justice Hunt's first test, the judge ordered him
Speaker 1: to keep his blindfold on, but this time asked his father,
Speaker 1: Henry Jones, to come forward and touch him. Apparently unknown
Speaker 1: to the boy, however, the judge then signored to a
Speaker 1: clerk of the court to bring Jane forward instead of Henry.
Speaker 1: At the slightest touch of Jane's hand, Richard was suddenly
Speaker 1: struck mute, and his apparent convulsions returned. No matter how
Speaker 1: many times the justice tried to deceive him, each time
Speaker 1: Jane's hand made contact, the result was the same. Having
Speaker 1: seemingly been left completely rigid. After the ordeal, Richard had
Speaker 1: to be carried home and laid to rest back on
Speaker 1: his bed for the next few days. Crowds of onlookers
Speaker 1: gathered outside the house hoping to get a glimpse of
Speaker 1: the strangely afflicted boy while in sight, his family tried
Speaker 1: repeatedly to bend his arms and legs into a resting position,
Speaker 1: to no avail. On the twenty fifth of February, a
Speaker 1: Missus Isles, a neighbor of the Joneses, walked out into
Speaker 1: her garden where she apparently found young Richard standing with
Speaker 1: an odd look on his face. It soon became clear
Speaker 1: to her that he was in some kind of trance.
Speaker 1: As she later described it, his body then lifted upwards
Speaker 1: off the ground. It rose higher and higher until he'd
Speaker 1: gained enough height to clear the garden wall. The woman
Speaker 1: claimed that Richard eventually he levitated so high that he
Speaker 1: floated over the wall to appoint thirty yards beyond the property.
Speaker 1: The boy was said to have just hung in the
Speaker 1: air for a moment until, as if he were a
Speaker 1: puppet having his strings cut, he plummeted to the ground.
Speaker 1: Missus Isles is said to have rushed immediately to the boy,
Speaker 1: fully expecting to find him dead, only for him to
Speaker 1: wake groggly and explain that it was Jane Brooks who'd
Speaker 1: taken him by the arm and carried him into the air.
Speaker 1: A villager spotted Richard in a barn, appearing to be
Speaker 1: hanging from the ceiling four feet above the ground. The
Speaker 1: neighbor rushed in to save him, but there was no
Speaker 1: rope around the boy's neck. Instead, he is said to
Speaker 1: have simply been hanging in the air, with the palms
Speaker 1: of his hands pushed up against a beam and nothing
Speaker 1: to support him underneath. It is said that somewhere between
Speaker 1: nine to twenty seven people witnessed this bizarre event. It
Speaker 1: was also said that he remained in that position, seemingly
Speaker 1: in another of his trances, for a good fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: before he woke up again and again he said it
Speaker 1: was Jane Brooks that did it. This alleged event would
Speaker 1: prove the final nail in the coffin for Jane. With
Speaker 1: the local magistrate concerned that Richard's life was now in danger,
Speaker 1: there was only one thing left to be done. At
Speaker 1: the end of her trial, Jane Brooks was found guilty
Speaker 1: of witchcraft and sentenced to death. She was hanged in
Speaker 1: the town of Chart, Somerset on March twenty sixth, sixteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Though Alice Cowart was believed to be less
Speaker 1: culpable than her sister. She was still kept under arrest
Speaker 1: with the intention of also charging her with witchcraft. However,
Speaker 1: she died in custody before she could take the stand.
Speaker 1: Following Jane Brooks and Alice Coward's deaths, Richard Jones reportedly
Speaker 1: made of full and fast recovery. As writer Joseph Glanville wrote,
Speaker 1: the boy, having no longer any inducement to act possessed,
Speaker 1: consented to remain with his feet on the ground and
Speaker 1: his head in the air. According to the laws of nature.
Speaker 1: He passes out of the history books and into insignificance,
Speaker 1: as does most everyone else involved in the case. Today,
Speaker 1: only Jane Brooks retains a legacy. Her trial is held
Speaker 1: up as an example of the misogyny and patriarchal terror
Speaker 1: that drove so much of the English wind. However, unlike
Speaker 1: with other more famous cases such as the so called
Speaker 1: Pendle Witches or the burning of Mary Lakeland in sixteen
Speaker 1: forty five for supposedly using witchcraft to murder her husband,
Speaker 1: there has never been any rationale or reason given for
Speaker 1: what Jane and her sister were reputed to have done.
Speaker 1: At no point did any of the Joneses family ever
Speaker 1: admit to any grievance with or even knowledge of Jane
Speaker 1: and Alice prior to their first meeting with Richard, and
Speaker 1: no link between the two families was ever established. For now,
Speaker 1: this strange and unsettling event remains unexplained. This episode was
Speaker 1: written by Neil McRobert and produced by me Richard McLain Smith.
Speaker 1: Neil is the creator and host of his own brilliant
Speaker 1: podcast called Talking Scared, in which she discusses the craft
Speaker 1: of horror writing with everyone from Ta Nanaeve Do to
Speaker 1: the God of horror himself, Stephen King. I can't recommend
Speaker 1: it highly enough. Unexplained is an Avy Club Productions podcast
Speaker 1: created by Richard McClain Smith. All other elements of the podcast,
Speaker 1: including the music, are also produced by me Richard mclin smith. Unexplained.
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