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Speaker 3: Martin and our Nashville Fox Sports Radio Tiracks studios eron

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Speaker 3: tourus here in Los Angeles. Uh, Disager just got your

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Speaker 3: updated on quite a bit. But even since we even

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Speaker 3: since we've come out, air stuff has happened. As Texas

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Speaker 3: converts a third and twelve. Uh, it looks like they

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Speaker 3: will be able to run out the clock and hold

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Speaker 3: on for dear life against TCU. As de Sager said, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Texas was incomplete control. Uh lost the lost the big lead,

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Speaker 3: but there is about a minute twenty nine left. They

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Speaker 3: just got a first down Texas Texas Christian excuse me.

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Speaker 3: TCU was out of timeouts, et cetera. And we will

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Speaker 3: also keep you updated on what is quite literally a

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Speaker 3: historic night at LSU.

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Speaker 4: LSU up forty five thirty five.

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Speaker 3: But Jaden Daniels first player in FBS history three hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty yards passing two hundred plus yards rushing. As

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Speaker 3: LSU scores again, they are now up fifty two to

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Speaker 3: thirty five. By the way, JASONRT, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw that touchdown, but it was one of those

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Speaker 3: little pop pass things. Think that counts as another touchdown

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Speaker 3: pass for Jada Daniels. So historic night there. But Jason Martin,

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Speaker 3: my brother, what are you doing? How's how's everything going

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Speaker 3: over there?

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Speaker 5: It's going well. It's been a fun day of football.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that we've learned anything we didn't already know.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe this will reinforced some things, and it

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Speaker 5: reminded us of certain things about certain teams. The point

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Speaker 5: about Daniels as well, taken. I would also add to

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Speaker 5: that man, two great quarterback performances in the SEC West today.

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Speaker 5: You have Daniels, you had mill Row this afternoon. Both

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Speaker 5: of those two guys, both on the ground and throwing

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Speaker 5: the football, just outstanding stuff from both of them. There

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Speaker 5: is a whole lot to get to this evening, and

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Speaker 5: of course we still have football being played. That's pretty

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Speaker 5: Dagone good as well. And Texas finds a way, don't they.

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Speaker 5: They find a way to play really well in the

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Speaker 5: first half and then let almost everybody back into every

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Speaker 5: game they play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just had somebody tweet at me at Aaron

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Speaker 3: and his score tours if you're interested, by the way,

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Speaker 3: something to the effect of, man, wow, you gotta stop

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Speaker 3: hype in Sark. I'm like, I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 3: hype Sark. Like, I mean, I gave him credit after

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Speaker 3: the Alabama win, but like, there was never a moment

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Speaker 3: where I'm like, you know, who's the best coach in

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Speaker 3: college football?

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Speaker 4: That guy Sarks.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, excuse me, Texas does hold on the clock

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Speaker 3: is running out twenty nine to twenty six.

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Speaker 4: They win.

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Speaker 3: They're the seventh ranked team in the country. They improved

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Speaker 3: to nine and one. By the way, worth noting, speaking

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Speaker 3: of Sark, this is the first nine win season of

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Speaker 3: Sark's career, so you know, so listen, they're doing well.

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Speaker 3: There's an interesting conversation about them and Bama if Bama

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Speaker 3: wins out that maybe we'll have throughout the day. Jason

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Speaker 3: I wils I do want to start with the big one,

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Speaker 3: and I know it ended early, but it's been just

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Speaker 3: such a it's been such a fascinating two three, four

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Speaker 3: week stretch for the Michigan Wolverines. By now everybody knows

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Speaker 3: what has been going on, and by now everybody knows

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Speaker 3: what was the deal. In the lead up to the game,

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Speaker 3: Michigan gets on a flight to play the biggest game

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Speaker 3: of their season, Top ten matchup at Penn State. They

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Speaker 3: were just you know, they were four and a half

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Speaker 3: point favorite, which on the road is pretty impressive, but

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Speaker 3: it speaks to everyone's expecting a close game. But in

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Speaker 3: the midst of this Connor Stallion situation, they didn't even

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Speaker 3: know if Jim Harball was going to be allowed to coach.

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Speaker 3: They find out about three point thirty Eastern on Friday

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Speaker 3: afternoon that he will. Jim Harball has a three game

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Speaker 3: suspension from the Big ten uh and then of course

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Speaker 3: the you know, there's talk of an injunction.

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna be able to coach anyway?

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Speaker 3: He does not, but Michigan ends up winning anyway in

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Speaker 3: Happy Valley. Final score twenty four to fifteen. Just an

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Speaker 3: incredible game. Want to react to all of it, Jason,

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Speaker 3: But it was an emotional day. It was an emotional win.

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Speaker 3: Here was interim head coach Sharon Moore after the game.

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Speaker 5: To win on the road in this environment when there

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Speaker 5: were doubts.

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Speaker 4: Sure, what does it mean to you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Thank the Lord, thank horrible love you man, than you man.

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Speaker 5: It's true.

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Speaker 4: But there's university. The president alid we got the best players,

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Speaker 4: best university, best alumni in the country. Love you guys,

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Speaker 4: me guys, these guys right here, man, these guys did it.

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Speaker 4: These guys see it. Man talks to him, man, love you,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, coach.

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Speaker 3: That was Michigan interim head coach Sharon Moore with Jenny

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Speaker 3: Taft on Fox Sports. Uh so, Jason, you did not

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Speaker 3: hear that live. That was the first time you heard

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Speaker 3: that sound. I have a lot of thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious for your perspective.

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Speaker 5: I saw it live, but I wasn't able to hear

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Speaker 5: it because my two year old was louder than Jerome

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Speaker 5: But certainly emotional, and you can understand why. Gosh, there's

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Speaker 5: so much to get into about this story. But just

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Speaker 5: I don't have anything against Scherime Moore, and I don't

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Speaker 5: have anything against his emotion in the moment and him

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Speaker 5: being proud of those young men and everything else. There's

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Speaker 5: a cloud surrounding Michigan. There's a larger context here. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot going on. But what had to happen today

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Speaker 5: for Michigan was sixty minutes of football in which they

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Speaker 5: went on the road in conference and beat an opponent

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Speaker 5: a very shocking way when it comes to McCarthy not

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Speaker 5: They just ran the ball down their throat and they

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Speaker 5: beat them, and Penn State was unable to answer the bell.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, i mean, he's an interim coach in that

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Speaker 5: being looked at, and it's not just because of a scandal.

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Speaker 5: It's because this is actually a real opponent as opposed

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Speaker 5: overcoming moment and they're rallying and they're using this as fuel,

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Speaker 5: certainly don't think I have very much sympathy right now

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you said you don't have sympathy for Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know. The word sympathy is an interesting word.

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Speaker 3: So I saw a lot of reaction the shrone more

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Speaker 3: you know, oh that's fake or oh it's whatever.

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Speaker 4: Here's my counter argument to this. These are the facts

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Speaker 3: As of right now this second, we do not know

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Speaker 3: with proof that anyone outside Connor Stallions knew what was

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Speaker 4: We can debate if somebody actually knew. Nobody knew.

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Speaker 3: For the last four weeks. That program has been dragged

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Speaker 3: through the mud for the last four weeks. That program

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Speaker 3: has been called cheaters for the last four weeks. Everyone

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Speaker 3: has said that nothing that they've accomplished in the last

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Speaker 3: three years means anything, because this scandal has gone on

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Speaker 3: beyond that They throughout the week practiced under a cloud

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Speaker 3: for as you said, their biggest game of the season, not.

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Speaker 4: Knowing if their head coach was going to be there.

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Speaker 3: And it was really about last Sunday that you started

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Speaker 3: to really hear rumors, Hey, the Big Ten might really

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Speaker 3: step in on this and not allow Harbor to coach.

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Speaker 3: They submit the paperwork to the Big Ten on Wednesday night,

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Speaker 3: meaning the Big Ten had a decision to make. They

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Speaker 3: could have made it Wednesday night, They could have made

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Speaker 3: Thursday evening. Friday morning, they get on a plane not

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Speaker 3: knowing if their coach was going to be coaching because

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten decided not to make that decision. Big

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Speaker 3: Ten didn't make the decisionuntil they were in the air

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Speaker 3: to go to Penn State. They don't find out until

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Speaker 3: think about what Sheron More was asked to do.

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Speaker 4: You're already to play caller.

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Speaker 3: The season basically hangs on this game because you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna win the tie breakers in the Big ten East,

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Speaker 3: even if you were to win out. So all that

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't pretty.

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Speaker 3: And you watch the way that Georgia played today, Bama

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Speaker 3: played today. Maybe we'll see how Oregon does tonight. Florida's

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Speaker 3: gets a tough win. Michigan did not look elaked by

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Speaker 3: other way and said, I think they need to be

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Speaker 3: due process. I get why it was so emotional, and

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Speaker 3: rallying without Jim Harbor. I don't even know if I

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Speaker 3: made a point there, Jason, but just the people that

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Speaker 3: said that that was fake emotion or Michigan doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a right to be upset based on what you know,

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Speaker 3: It's like, I just that part bothers me more than

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the emotional part. I mean, I certainly don't think

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Speaker 5: there was anything faulty to his emotion at all. The

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Speaker 5: Duke process arguments want to have mild trouble with.

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Speaker 4: Please tell me.

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Speaker 5: The reason why is because we know they broke a rule.

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Speaker 5: We know they did. We don't know how pervasive it was,

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Speaker 5: We don't know exactly who is responsible ultimately for it

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Speaker 5: past Conra Stallions, but we know what Conras Stallions did.

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Speaker 5: Like if you look at what was already revealed and

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Speaker 5: what the Big Ten said in their statement that they

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Speaker 5: already have seen and the reason that they left the

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Speaker 5: door open to do more is because the investigation is continuing,

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Speaker 5: and you know, there's a larger question that could be

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Speaker 5: talked about, would Greg SANKEI have done this. I've heard

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Speaker 5: that argument in a couple of different places. If this

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Speaker 5: you can what about this thing to death. But we

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Speaker 5: know something was done. I find it impossible to believe

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Speaker 5: And if you want to talk about institutional control and

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Speaker 5: all of this, Harrorball's one that gets dinged here. I

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Speaker 5: don't necessarily not hold sympathy for the players of Michigan

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Speaker 3: He said, how about two touchdowns for what was it

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Speaker 3: the Tairaq dot Com studios. Tonight was a good good

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Speaker 3: night for Michigan fans, Jason Martin, not so much for

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Speaker 3: I get hyperbolics sometimes. I know that's a flaw that

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Speaker 3: attempt that did not go down. Now you're down by

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Speaker 3: two scores even with the onside kick. Whatever the floor

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Speaker 3: is yours, I'm talking enough, but the floor is George Jason,

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Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 5: So I've said this for a while, and you made

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Speaker 5: the point in the first segment. It might be the

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Speaker 5: best take that I have. I definitely have the opposite

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Speaker 5: as well. This is James Franklin. I said this about

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Speaker 5: Michigan last week. I said, I don't even care whether

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Speaker 5: hardball's there or not. They're still gonna end up winning

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Speaker 5: this game because this is what James Franklin does. James

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Speaker 5: Franklin recruits and loses big games at about the same clip.

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Speaker 5: He is not just an average game day coach. He

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Speaker 5: is a bad game day coach in big games. Bad,

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Speaker 5: not mediocre, you know, see, No, he's close to an

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Speaker 5: f Folks. He does this. They are three and seventeen

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Speaker 5: against the top ten one in fourteen against Ohio State

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Speaker 5: and Michigan teams that are ranked in the top ten.

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Speaker 5: They're now four and sixteen overall against Ohio State and

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Speaker 5: Michigan one in six versus top ten teams at home,

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Speaker 5: five and nine versus ranked teams at home, one in

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Speaker 5: eight versus the top five, three and seven versus Michigan.

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Speaker 5: There's no coach for Michigan, and they still lose at

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Speaker 5: home with one hundred and ten thousand people in the stands,

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Speaker 5: and they gave him a ten year, seventy million dollar

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Speaker 5: contract even at the time, it's not like he's been

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Speaker 5: there for two years and this is a project, like

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Speaker 5: this is what the guy is. He recruits, he can motivate,

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Speaker 5: he can speak to a room, he can charm people.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes down to it on Saturday, there

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Speaker 5: is just no reason why you would want him to

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Speaker 5: be the guy on the sidelines making decisions. You're right,

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Speaker 5: he made almost every bad decision that you could have

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Speaker 5: made here. I hate it, absolutely despised that two point

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Speaker 5: call which you mentioned, because I understand what analytics says,

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Speaker 5: but there's a problem with analytics, and this is something

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Speaker 5: that I know Nick Saban has said and others have

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Speaker 5: in terms of yeah, but just the idea that you

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Speaker 5: know you have to live with the decisions you make.

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Speaker 5: I think is what Saban said for me. It is

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Speaker 5: analytics can contextualize a lot, but what it cannot do

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Speaker 5: was account for the human psyche. It can't account for

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Speaker 5: the optics of the moment and how pressure you know,

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Speaker 5: is felt amongst these young athletes, dependent upon the situation

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Speaker 5: that they find themselves in, and in that moment, you basically,

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Speaker 5: if you get that you've still got a lot of

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Speaker 5: work to do. I understand that you're gonna need a

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Speaker 5: two point conversion potentially, but you you basically want to

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Speaker 5: I think, keep yourself in the game in terms of

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Speaker 5: a one possession score as long as you can, because

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Speaker 5: the pressure is then ratcheted up on the young men

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Speaker 5: from Michigan, who then after they stopped that one play

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Speaker 5: when they're already up and they still understand that you

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Speaker 5: have a lot more to accomplish. Once they stop that, effectively,

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Speaker 5: the game feels like it's over because it is, and

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Speaker 5: the stadium told you all you needed to know, and

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Speaker 5: then after the game they booed James Franklin. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it's one hundred and ten thousand or if

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Speaker 5: it was just ninety five, but a lot of people

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Speaker 5: booed James Franklin. They paid him a lot of money

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Speaker 5: to do what. Never field an offense that seems to

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Speaker 5: be able to score against anybody relevant. I don't care

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Speaker 5: how good their defense is. They can't outscore anybody. They're

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Speaker 5: basically a penthouse IOWA at this point in time when

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Speaker 5: it comes to their offense against anybody worthy. And this

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Speaker 5: is not a this year problem. This is a multi

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Speaker 5: year problem. And you paid this guy and nothing has changed.

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Speaker 5: That's I saw this years ago. I'm not saying the

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Speaker 5: guy can't coach at all. I'm saying that he is vastly,

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Speaker 5: vastly overrated as a game day coach. And this is

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Speaker 5: not new to anyone that's watched Penn State football in

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Speaker 5: the last decade.

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Speaker 3: So two quick things because I do want to get

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Speaker 3: to saga one. I think the especially frustrating thing is, well,

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Speaker 3: there's two things that are especially frustrating about today, besides

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Speaker 3: all of the mismanagement. One, I thought Michigan was trying

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Speaker 3: to give you the game. I mean they yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 3: you're not wrong. Yeah, they were trying to give you

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Speaker 3: the game. And I think that, to me is where

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Speaker 3: I would just be out of my mind. If I'm

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Speaker 3: a Penn State fan, I understand, you know, Drew aller

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Speaker 3: rechor whatever whatever excuse you want to use. Here's the

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Speaker 3: bottom line. Two things happen this year. You got Penn

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Speaker 3: State or Ohio State. Excuse me, in a year where

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you they will never have a worse offense

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Speaker 3: than they do this year.

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Speaker 4: They just won't. First year quarterback he's not that good.

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Speaker 3: Even next year he'll be better if they don't recruit

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Speaker 3: over him and bring in a transfer, okay, Or they

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Speaker 3: just have somebody in the program that's one worst offense

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Speaker 3: Ohio State has ever had.

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Speaker 4: Can't beat them.

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Speaker 3: Michigan literally didn't know who was going to be coaching

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Speaker 3: them until an hour before kickoff because they had the

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Speaker 3: whole injunction thing. As Hardbark gonna coaches, he not, there's

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Speaker 3: never gonna be a better spot. Two, at the very

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Speaker 3: least split and and you know, potentially play yourself into

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Speaker 3: the conference championship game. So that has to be so

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Speaker 3: frustrating if you're a Penn State fan. And two, it's

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Speaker 3: funny because coming into the year, you could kind of argue, well,

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Speaker 3: you know this is a program that when you go

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Speaker 3: to a twelve team playoff, they've historically gone ten and two.

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Speaker 3: They're kind of one of those teams that's always on

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Speaker 3: the fringe but never quite in. But now I'm watching Oregon,

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Speaker 3: They're awesome, USC, UCLA and Washing. I mean, Washington is

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Speaker 3: obviously a top five team right now, and so I

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Speaker 3: just bring it up because the landscape is about to

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Speaker 3: get tougher, and so if if you can't win the

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Speaker 3: games that matter, and I know every year they're not

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Speaker 3: gonna have Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, US, all these teams

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Speaker 3: on the schedule, but the landscape is only gonna get

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Speaker 3: tougher in the big ten. So I don't know how

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Speaker 3: Penn State fans do it. And I think it's almost

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Speaker 3: like the worst possible place to be, Like you want

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Speaker 3: to be, just like if you're not gonna if you

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Speaker 3: if you're a blue blood program that has the capability

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Speaker 3: to win national championships, and I think if everything broke right,

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Speaker 3: Penn State could This is the worst place you could

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Speaker 3: be because you're in a spot where you're just good enough,

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Speaker 3: where you can't really make the move, but you're also

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Speaker 3: you're not there and you're I just don't think this

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Speaker 3: is your Jason.

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Speaker 4: This is incredible. This is year ten for James Franklin.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's not like you

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Speaker 5: just got You don't feel like he's been there that long.

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Speaker 5: But he's been there.

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Speaker 3: Forever and this is the same thing every year. So unbelievable,

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Speaker 3: frustrating loss for Penn State fans. If we have any

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Speaker 3: Penn State fans listening, I know we're supposed to remain

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Speaker 3: unbiased in this stuff. I'm sorry for you. I just

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Speaker 3: I feel bad because you are between a rock and

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Speaker 3: a hard place. You're obviously not getting rid of them,

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Speaker 3: but this guy is getting the job done. Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Aer Tors, Jason Martin. When we come back, we

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Speaker 3: want to talk about some of the other big stories

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Speaker 3: in college football, including should there be a new number

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Speaker 3: one on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: We'll discuss that next.

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Speaker 3: But first news desk for the first time this evening,

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Speaker 3: Steve de Sager.

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Speaker 5: What's up to Sager?

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Speaker 8: Hello, gentlemen, and James Franklin is early in a ten

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Speaker 8: year contract. We do have an NBA injury to update.

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia guard Kelly Ubre averaging sixteen points a game, is

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Speaker 8: out of the hospital tonight after being hit by a

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Speaker 8: car while he was walking. Ubre will reportedly miss significant time.

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Speaker 8: A team spokesman says the injuries are not considered to

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Speaker 8: be season ending. The late game in the NBA has

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Speaker 8: just ended. Cleveland wins at Golden State one eighteen one

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Speaker 8: ten despite thirty points from Steph Curry to college Football

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Speaker 8: now heading into this weekend, the Athletic pointed out that

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Speaker 8: there have been exactly zero wins this season by an

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Speaker 8: unranked team over an ap top five opponent. That is

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Speaker 8: still the case. Number one Ohio State dominated Michigan State

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Speaker 8: thirty eight three. By the way, Number two Georgia treated

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Speaker 8: Old Miss like an unranked opponent fIF two seventeen. The

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Speaker 8: Final Bulldogs have won twenty seven in a row. They

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Speaker 8: clinched the SEC East. You mentioned the game at number

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Speaker 8: ten Penn State, number three Michigan. The winner twenty four

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Speaker 8: to fifteen is Blake corm At one hundred and forty

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Speaker 8: five yards rushing two touchdowns. Washington ranked fifth beat number

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Speaker 8: eighteen Utah thirty five twenty eight and number four Florida

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Speaker 8: State twenty seven to twenty winners against rival Miami Well

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Speaker 8: which in the last fifty years of college football, which

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Speaker 8: matchups have produced the most close games, in fact, decided

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Speaker 8: by one possession. Over half the Florida State Miami games

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Speaker 8: of the last fifty years have been decided by one possession.

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Speaker 8: They put up that graphic today Oklahoma Texas tied with

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Speaker 8: them on the list, and now tied with them Duke

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Speaker 8: versus North Carolina, and they are going to overtime. Tar

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Speaker 8: Heels have kicked a field goal at the end of

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Speaker 8: regulation in ot It's tied thirty six, thirty six in

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Speaker 8: Chapel Hill. Updating the game at number six. Oregon quarterback

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Speaker 8: Bo Nick's not doing much. He's just four of six now,

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Speaker 8: passing one hundred and sixty nine yards and two long touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: This is the late game on Fox TV. Oregon missed

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Speaker 8: a two point try early. By the way, it's early

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Speaker 8: second quarter. It's Ducks thirteen to seven over USC. UCLA

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Speaker 8: is in action tonight. By the way, they're starting the

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Speaker 8: fourth quarter at the Rose Bowl. Arizona State leads ten

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Speaker 8: to nothing at UCLA game. Arizona State is well at

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Speaker 8: times awful. Let's use that adjective two and seven this year.

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Speaker 8: So yes, this is a surprise update, a field goal

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Speaker 8: has been kicked by Duke to lead at North Carolina

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Speaker 8: in overtime. Still thirty nine thirty six over the Tar Heels.

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Speaker 8: And you mentioned what went on with the LSU home game.

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Speaker 8: They beat Florida fifty two to thirty five Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 8: over six hundred total yards by himself and five touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: In fact, the Athletic reports that Daniels is the third

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Speaker 8: player at FBS history to throw for three hundred and

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Speaker 8: rush for two hundred in the same game. Malik Cunningham

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Speaker 8: two years ago did that for Louisville at Duke, and

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Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety nine, Washington quarterback Marcus Tuiasisopo did so

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Speaker 8: against Stanford. Still, no FBS players had three hundred passing

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Speaker 8: and three hundred rushing in the same game. But it

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Speaker 8: look for a little while despite get there. LSU fifty

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Speaker 8: two to thirty five the final. And then there's the

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Speaker 8: game at Oklahoma. This was before the Oregon contest on

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Speaker 8: Fox TV tonight, Oklahoma beat West Virginia fifty nine to twenty.

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Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel of the Sooners with eight total touchdowns, three

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Speaker 8: touchdown runs and five TD passes, four hundred twenty three

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Speaker 8: yards through the air. Texas Tech on a field goal

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Speaker 8: in the final seconds. Won at Kansas sixteen to thirteen,

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Speaker 8: Arizona with a short field goal on the final play

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Speaker 8: one at Colorado thirty four to thirty one, Missouri blitz

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Speaker 8: Tennessee thirty six to seven, and at Central Florida, UCF

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Speaker 8: led fifteenth ranked Oklahoma State twenty four to not thing

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Speaker 8: early second quarter forty five to three the final over

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys, who committed four turnovers. NHL wins for Arizona

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Speaker 8: and for Montreal in overtime. The Arizona Cardinals will have

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Speaker 8: running back James connorback activated off IR after the knee injury.

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Speaker 2: He'll play tomorrow and.

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Speaker 8: The Cards will start quarterback Kyler Murray against the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, Jason Martin, and

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Speaker 4: Tell you what, Jason will come, Lanning, what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Sorry, well, Dan Lanning, what are you doing? Did

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Speaker 5: you see that?

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Speaker 4: What was it? A pass back to bow Nicks and

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Speaker 4: he got hitting the boon.

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Speaker 5: Nigs will moved over to become the receiver you know,

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Speaker 5: is a flat and got it. He got his quarterback killed. Basically, like,

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Speaker 5: what are you doing? There's no reason to call a

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Speaker 5: play like that.

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Speaker 3: This goes back to some of the James Franklin stuff

665
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Speaker 3: is I think these guys just get too cute sometimes,

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Speaker 3: Like James Franklin didn't need to go for two in

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Speaker 3: the first half. Then he's chasing points late, took the

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Speaker 3: momentum out of the stadium, and it's like Dan Lenning,

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Speaker 3: you're in complete control. For people who don't know the score.

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Speaker 3: The sager just told you thirteen to seven, Oregon is ahead.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get the two point conversion, which I think

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Speaker 3: is stupid. I'm sure there's some analytic that says it's

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Speaker 3: smart to, you know, go for the two point conversion early,

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Speaker 3: because if you get it, then they're chasing you and

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah, and this I think it's stupid.

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Speaker 3: And then to your point, you're in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: USC statistically has one of the worst defenses in college football,

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Speaker 3: and you have somebody that's calling plays for the first

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Speaker 3: time in their careers tonight, And to your point, Jason

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Speaker 3: you have your your quarterback out at wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: This is it.

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Speaker 3: This is a national championship game. Just keep winning. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 4: And you shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't you know us He's good, but you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: need to be running trick plays where your quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: wide point.

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Speaker 5: Don't need trick plays to beat that defense.

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Speaker 3: And then on the next play, Bonix just threw a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: So I think Bonix is fine. Oregon has just taken

691
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Speaker 3: a nineteen to seven lead, but it was still stupid.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't change the fact that it was still stupid.

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Speaker 3: Oregon up nineteen seven, touchdown pass from Boonix. We'll see

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Speaker 3: if they go for two here or if they kicked

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Speaker 3: the extra point. Oregon is ahead. There is a flag.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what Jason will come back When we come back,

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Speaker 3: We'll ask the two very important questions. Should there be

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Speaker 3: a new number one on Monday? But also should there

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Speaker 3: be a new leader in the Heisman Trophy race? If

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Speaker 3: he isn't already, that's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports radio er tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 3: thee Tireck dot Com studios. Right before the break, Oregon

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Speaker 3: had scored another touchdown. They did once again go for two.

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Speaker 3: They once again did not get it. Oregon up nineteen

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Speaker 3: seven on USC nine minutes forty nine seconds left in

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Speaker 3: the second quarter. In that one, also, we got kind

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Speaker 3: of an entertaining game in Chapel Hill in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina up forty seven thirty nine in double overtime

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Speaker 3: against Duke. Duke's obviously got to put the ball in

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Speaker 3: the end zone.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 3: I'll keep you updated on that one, Jason. Two quick

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Speaker 3: things as we close out hour one, we'll switch over

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Speaker 3: to the NFL. Here at the top of the hour Georgia.

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Speaker 3: So so, we spent forty five minutes talking about a

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Speaker 3: top ten matchup that actually looked like a top ten

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Speaker 3: matchup that could have gone either way. And then we

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Speaker 3: get the Georgia Bulldogs where anytime there's ever an ounce

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Speaker 3: of reason to doubt them, oh, they take it personally,

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Speaker 3: they're basically the Michael Jordan gif of And that's what

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Speaker 3: I took it personal Georgia every single time that anyone

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Speaker 3: doubts them. So they hosted All Miss this this evening,

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Speaker 3: and I for one thought it could be close. I

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Speaker 3: thought it could be competitive. They won fifty two to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: It was not even close. How about this. They outscored

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Speaker 3: Old Miss twenty four to seven or twenty four to

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Speaker 3: three in the second half. Overall, outscored them thirty eight

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Speaker 3: to ten after the first quarter. Michigan, you know, has

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Speaker 3: had its moments. Ohio State is number one in the polls.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, by the way, won thirty eight to three

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Speaker 3: against Michigan State today.

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Speaker 4: Is Georgia still the.

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Speaker 3: Best team in the country when they're peaking, because I

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Speaker 3: think they just might be.

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Speaker 5: Jason, Yes, and that's why I picked them to win again.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's tough to do it, but until somebody

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Speaker 5: does it, they nobody's been able to conquer them since

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Speaker 5: Alabama did in the SEC Championship game, not last year,

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Speaker 5: but the year before that. It's been a long time.

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Speaker 5: Twenty seven games now in a row. And yes, there

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Speaker 5: have been some different faces and have been moments this

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: year where you could try to doubt Georgia, but this

748
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: is the difference when they need the extra gear. It

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Speaker 5: exists in that vehicle. That car can go faster, and

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Speaker 5: when it comes down to it, this was a game

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Speaker 5: that you looked at on paper and said, you know,

752
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: Kiffin in that offense and Jackson Dart's really been playing well.

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Speaker 5: Ole Miss could give them real trouble. This is one

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Speaker 5: where you might want to pay attention to see how

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Speaker 5: this goes, and you could tell relatively soon, Oh, we

756
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Speaker 5: know exactly how this is gonna go. This is gonna

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Speaker 5: be a blowout. I don't know that we saw fifty

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Speaker 5: two to seventeen, but this was an absolutely just this

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Speaker 5: was a beatdown. This was the most impressive performance I've

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Speaker 5: seen from college football teams this year. I know there've

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Speaker 5: been better games, I know that there have been better

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Speaker 5: opponents and all this, but this is a top ten

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Speaker 5: Ole Miss team coming in and Georgia just beat the

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Speaker 5: brakes off them, just completely embarrassed them, humiliated them. I

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Speaker 5: saw Jackson Dart's face in the final minute of the game,

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Speaker 5: and he looked exactly like he should have looked like

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Speaker 5: they just they got put into a coma in this game. Basically,

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Speaker 5: it was incredible to watch, and this is what should

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Speaker 5: terrify everybody and what continues to terrify everybody. I think

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Speaker 5: I don't know that this Georgia team is unbeatable, but

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Speaker 5: somebody's gonna actually have to do it, and I'm still waiting.

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Speaker 5: I think the SEC Championship game is going to be

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Speaker 5: a very interesting football game. I really do. But I'm

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Speaker 5: looking at this and you watch Michigan, and you watch

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Speaker 5: Ohio State, and you watch Texas, and you watch some

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Speaker 5: of these other schools. You even watch Florida State. They've

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Speaker 5: now barely you know, they escaped Miami's a tough game,

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Speaker 5: took over time to beat Clemson. You know, there's a

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Speaker 5: reason to doubt everybody. Washington's not really been impressing me

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Speaker 5: over the last month, not since the Oregon game. Oregon's

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Speaker 5: got flaws, they've lost. Georgia is still that team that's

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Speaker 5: out there that just when they need it, they can

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Speaker 5: do something like this. And this, to me was as

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Speaker 5: impressive as anything I've seen in college football all year.

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Speaker 3: We do have a final, by the way, in Chapel Hill,

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Speaker 3: North Carolina forty seven forty five in double overtime. This

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Speaker 3: is what's great about college football is that even a

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Speaker 3: game like this, no real meaning, still very entertaining, very quickly, Jason,

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Speaker 3: we went over Jade and Daniels the LSU star quarterback

790
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: earlier three hundred and seventy two yards passing three passing touchdowns,

791
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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty four yards passing two rushing or

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty four yards rushing two rushing touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: five total tds over what is it about? Six hundred

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Speaker 3: yards of total offense on his own three losses for LSU.

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Speaker 3: But in your opinion, should he should he be in

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Speaker 3: the Heisman race even if his team isn't a contender,

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Speaker 3: and should he be the favorite after a night like tonight?

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Speaker 5: Sure? I mean it's tough to talk about, I mean

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Speaker 5: him winning with their loss situation, I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of individual achievement and what he's been

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Speaker 5: able to pull off this year has been nothing short

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Speaker 5: of remarkable. And if you do keep seeing kind of

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Speaker 5: blemishes on some of the other guys like McCarthy, he's

804
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Speaker 5: probably gonna fall off. And Pennis, you know, it hadn't

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Speaker 5: been maybe as impressive over the last few weeks. You

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Speaker 5: can poke holes in a lot of people's cases Marvin

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Speaker 5: Harrison Junior maybe is still right there. But Jaydon Daniel,

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Speaker 5: what he's doing is utterly amazing and he certainly should

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Speaker 5: be in the mix even with three losses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamar Jackson, Tim Tebow among those with three plus

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Speaker 3: losses that have won the Heisman Trophy, so he'd be

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Speaker 3: in very good company. We'll see what bo Nicks does

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Speaker 3: over these final couple weeks. Michael Pennix, as you said,

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Speaker 3: I think he needs to be in the conversation because

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Speaker 3: I think they'd have at.

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Speaker 4: Least another loss or two without him.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio erin tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 3: the tire Rack dot Com studios. It is still nineteen

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Speaker 3: to seven Oregon leeds usc USC is rattled.

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Speaker 4: They do not have much of an answer for anything.

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Speaker 3: And as I just said, final in Chapel Hill, number

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Speaker 3: twenty four, North Carolina wins forty seven to forty five

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Speaker 3: in double overtime. Tell you what, Jason, when we come back,

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Speaker 3: we will turn our attention to the NFL report out today.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep you updated on that as the night goes on.

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Speaker 3: But Jason, I do want to go ahead and switch

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Speaker 3: over to the NFL.

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Speaker 4: A lot going on.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've reached just about the halfway point of

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Speaker 3: the season, so really fun time for some teams and

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Speaker 3: a very frustrating time for others. Certainly I would put

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots in the latter part of that conversation. Again,

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Speaker 3: to your credit, a big, big day for Jason Martin's takes.

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Speaker 4: You know you were on this in.

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Speaker 3: The preseason of the Patriots aren't gonna be Not only

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Speaker 3: the Patriots aren't gonna be good, they're not even a

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Speaker 3: team that will talk about, which we largely won't because

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00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: they're two to seven right now, two wins, a five

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Speaker 3: point victory over the chants of four point victory over

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Speaker 3: the Bills. But why I bring it up is because

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Speaker 3: just weeks after we got that report about the Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichick extension, we now have the exact opposite, as reports

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Speaker 3: are starting to come out that people think that, you know,

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00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: this is getting so bad that the two sides could

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Speaker 3: mutually agree to part ways. Obviously they would Belichick and

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Speaker 3: the Patriots. This from Diana Rossini of The Athletic. In

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Speaker 3: talking to those who have spent time around the Patriots

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Speaker 3: organization understand the dynamics between team owner Robert Craft and

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. I don't expect anything to be determined with

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Speaker 3: so much season remaining, but if people I talk to

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Speaker 3: had to bet, their money is on a mutual parting

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Speaker 3: of ways at the end of the season. Again, this

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Speaker 3: report comes just a few weeks after e Rapaport reported

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Speaker 3: about a big extension in the offseason. So what do

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Speaker 3: you make of this latest report, Jason? It's obviously bad

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Speaker 3: in New England, but uh, six times?

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Speaker 5: What is he?

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Speaker 4: Six times Super Bowl champion? Are they? Is he going

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Speaker 4: to be out at the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh yeah, I do. I mean I thought that

870
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Speaker 5: for I kind of felt that that was going to

871
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: happen now for most of this season, if not even

872
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 5: before this year. It just I don't know the Belichick

873
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: wants to be part of another rebuild if they're gonna

874
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: actually try to tear this thing down to the studs

875
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: and figure out a quarterback scenario. And I'm not sure

876
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: that the Patriots want him to be at the helm

877
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 5: of this. I think there is a stubbornness to Belichick

878
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: that at this point has it's worn out. It's welcome,

879
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: it's come to the end of the line. They need

880
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: to change. He probably needs a change in his life

881
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 5: as well. It just and it's gonna be a mutual

882
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: parting of the ways. And that's what Rassini says, at

883
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 5: least based on who she's talked to, that's what they're betting.

884
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a mutual parting of the ways. You're

885
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: not gonna fire build Bullichick here unless he were to

886
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: make you do it, and even then I just don't

887
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 5: since that would happen. I just I do not feel

888
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: like this ends with some kind of ugliness. I think

889
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: it's just it's run its course, and at this stage,

890
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 5: there's nothing more to do but to move on. For

891
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 5: all parties involved. So yes, I think this is it.

892
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: I think we are seeing the end of, you know,

893
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: one of the more special coaching tenures that we've ever seen.

894
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: And I think that it's gonna be interesting how it

895
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: is seen after the fact because of the lack of

896
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 5: success the minute the twelve exited stage left.

897
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: So it's interesting.

898
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, listen, I think we all know

899
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: that things are you know, not only going sideways, it's

900
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: it's really, really, really bad. I guess I'm I'm a

901
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: little more dubious that Bill Belichick is going to kind

902
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: of take the high road and acknowledge that there's a

903
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: problem because there's been a problem with this organization for

904
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: three years. I mean, not only did they not figure

905
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: out the quarterback and that goes without saying, but I

906
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: mean his drafting has been terrible for years. His skill

907
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: position evaluation, especially if the wide receiver position, has been

908
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: terrible for years. And it seems as though, you know,

909
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: this is from an outside perspective. I'm not in the

910
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: building every day, but it seems as though I don't

911
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: want to say he takes zero percent accountability for it,

912
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: because that's probably not fair, but it does kind of

913
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: seem like he doesn't seem to think that there is

914
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: you know, I don't say anything wrong, but it doesn't

915
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: seem as though like he has been in a rush

916
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: to fix the things that need to be fixed. And

917
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: so I'm just a little surprised because, like I said,

918
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: you seem a little more confident that he will be

919
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: willing to if you want to say, bite the bullet,

920
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 3: if you want to say, understand the situation, whatever verbiage

921
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: you want to use. I just think he's a little

922
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: too stubborn, and I haven't seen anything from him that

923
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: makes me feel like, Okay, he's gonna wave the white

924
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: flag at the end of the year and say it's

925
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: my fault and it's time for me to step aside.

926
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: That's just I find that very interesting for me.

927
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 5: Jason, Well, I can't imagine he's happy. Okay, I know

928
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 5: they're not happy. They're going to give him every opportunity

929
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 5: to leave with dignity. If he forces their hand. We'll

930
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: see what happens on that front. But I think that

931
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: some of the things that you laid out, which are

932
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 5: well documented when it comes to how poorly he's put

933
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: the team together, the stubborn nature of everything, the quarterback problems,

934
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 5: all of that kind of stuff. I feel like he's

935
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 5: gotten a very, very long leash, and he's gotten a

936
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 5: lot of grace from the Patriots organization because he's Bill Belichick.

937
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 5: Because he is I think almost any other coach that

938
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: would have the same kind of track record over the

939
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: last handful of years, with the same problems whose name

940
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: was not Bill Belichick would not still be coaching that team.

941
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: I think he has earned Maybe he hadn't earned it

942
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: at this stage, but I think that because he's Bill Belichick,

943
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 5: he's gotten an incredibly kind of easier time with this

944
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 5: than almost anybody else would. And I think in his

945
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 5: heart of hearts, he might be stubborn, but he knows.

946
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't think he's blind to it. I think that

947
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 5: when it is actually put forth at the end of

948
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: the season, it's just like, hey, man, like, let's look

949
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 5: at this and let's evaluate this. If he forces their hand,

950
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 5: then it could get ugly. For his sake, I hope

951
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 5: he is willing to let pride die here and walk

952
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 5: away with his head held high based on what he

953
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: has accomplished, as opposed to this becoming some really ugly

954
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: scene that tarnishes the end of the run. And I

955
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: don't know that it's the last time he coaches. I

956
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: don't know if he's interested in coaching after this year

957
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: with someone else. I have no clue whether or not

958
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 5: that's it's a different phase of life for him or not.

959
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 5: I just think it's come to the end. I think

960
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: all parties are aware of this, and they're trying to

961
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: find a soft landing spot. He's the only one that

962
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: finds a way for the plane not to land on

963
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: the strip properly.

964
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: Very interesting, very interesting. Yeah, I just I don't know.

965
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm just a little less confident that he's willing to

966
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 3: do this. But I mean, you know, at a certain

967
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: point his hand might be forced, and then I do

968
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: think he gets into an interesting thing. And it's something

969
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: I've talked to you about. I remember one of the

970
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: times that I was filling in with Arnie, we talked

971
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: about this. But I mean, the guy is now, you know,

972
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: on the one hand, he's obviously a multi time Super

973
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: Bowl winner, but seventy one years old would be seventy

974
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: two in April, so seventy two at the starter next

975
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: football season, I'd be curious what the market is for

976
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: this guy if he is somehow a free agent, if

977
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: he retire, or if he's out.

978
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: With the Patriots. I could be wrong. I think he's

979
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: done one.

980
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: I don't think the market is as robust as like

981
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: other people seem to think it think it might be.

982
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: You know, this was something Arnie and I talked about, like,

983
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: if you're the Bears and you have a chance to

984
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: draft Caleb Williams or whatever, like, is Bill belich ch

985
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: the guy you want to bring in to develop a

986
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: young quarterback? And I'm just using him that as a hypothetical,

987
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: so be interesting to see really quick. You know, I

988
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: wasn't really planning on talking about this, but since we're

989
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: kind of on the subject of the AFC East, and

990
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: we'll get to one of the other AFC's teams after

991
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: the break. Buffalo Bills just lost to Cincinnati on Sunday

992
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: Night Football. I know the final score is twenty four

993
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: to eighteen. Anyone will watch the game, nos Cincinnati was

994
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: in complete control of the whole game. They have now

995
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: lost three of their last five base including one to

996
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: the Patriots, which is why I bring it up. And

997
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: while they do have a pseudo manageable schedule, the next

998
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: couple of weeks.

999
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: The home stretch is tough.

1000
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: At Philly at KC, Cowboys at Chargers. How about that

1001
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: for a four game stretch plus at Miami to and

1002
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: the regular season. You know, it's obviously a different team,

1003
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: a different kind of you know, whatever moment for their organization,

1004
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: But you talk about a team that, like in the

1005
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: AFC East that you know, I don't know if as

1006
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: many people were talking about them as a legitimate Super

1007
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: Bowl contender this year as opposed to last year in

1008
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 3: the offseason, but a team that, like, you know, they're

1009
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 3: five and four right now. I don't think people realize

1010
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: they're on the fringes of the playoffs right now and

1011
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: it could go sideways. Just find them to be fascinating

1012
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: at this point in the year. Don't know if we'll

1013
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: have time to talk about them later in the show.

1014
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think Allen has played well, and I

1015
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: think he played well last week and the loss. At

1016
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 5: the same time, they're just absolutely brutalized defensively. They've lost

1017
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 5: guys for the season that are just key contributors for them.

1018
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 5: We talked about Belichick. We said before the season this

1019
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 5: was kind of put up or shut up for Sean

1020
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: McDermott when it came to is there a ceiling here

1021
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 5: or you a coach that can get close? But that's

1022
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: about it. Looks like that might be what we're gonna

1023
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: see here, and that could be the end for Sean McDermott.

1024
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: I don't know. I would say this if I am

1025
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 5: an AFC team, I would be very happy to see

1026
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo miss the playoffs because it's not It's not the

1027
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 5: matchup I would want in the postseason, especially if they've

1028
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: been kind of doubted and talked down by that stage

1029
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: and they find a way into the playoffs. They could

1030
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 5: be a dangerous team at that stage. But I just

1031
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 5: think that they are so banged up. Any AFC has

1032
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 5: teams that just seem like they've supplanted them this year.

1033
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 5: I'm kind of out on them in general in terms

1034
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 5: of I think I did pick them to win the division.

1035
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: I still think that could happen, but generally I don't

1036
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: see them as a team with much of a Super

1037
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: Bowl hope at this stage.

1038
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: So you picked the Bills to win the division. I

1039
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: picked the New York Jets, which obviously is probably not happening.

1040
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: When we come back TOASEID I do want to talk

1041
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: about the Dolphins. You know, on the one hand, they

1042
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: are are leading the division by game. On the other hand,

1043
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: they took another bad not a bad loss last Sunday,

1044
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: but kind of a Marquee game.

1045
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: They didn't look good.

1046
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: Really quickly keeping the updated on the late Marquee college

1047
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: football game. Oregon has kicked the field goal. They're up

1048
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: to twenty two to seven, although US is driving and

1049
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: in the red zone. That is the Markey game that

1050
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: is still on in college football. Will keep you updated there.

1051
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: By the way, if you missed any of our college

1052
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,200
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1053
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1054
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1055
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,760
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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1060
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: we come back, we will continue the conversation on the NFL. Also,

1061
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: an interesting story out of the NBA that you might

1062
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1063
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1064
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1066
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1069
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting that I from thee Tireck

1070
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: dot com studios. Keeping the updated too Marquee late scores

1071
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: in college football, We are at the half at Oregon,

1072
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: Oregon up twenty two to fourteen, as USC scored right

1073
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: before the break there, and then a very interesting development

1074
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: at the Rose Bowl. You know, only Arnie Spanier gets

1075
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: the pack twelve networks, so nobody. I don't know how

1076
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: many people are aware of this, but UCLA, which was

1077
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: ranked just a week ago, they obviously lost last week

1078
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: to Arizona. They are trailing seventeen to seven to a

1079
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: two and seven Arizona State team with two minutes left

1080
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 3: to sagre. Get you updated on that when that goes final, Jason,

1081
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: I want to switch gears to a different afcast team

1082
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: really quick though, you know, just just browsing. I think

1083
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: that you know, we'd be remiss, and I'm curious for

1084
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: your perspective a little bit of an interesting return. I

1085
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: just mentioned Arizona State playing at the Rose Bowl, a

1086
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: team that they share their city with out there in Scottsdale, Tempe.

1087
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: The Arizona Cardinals are welcoming back Kyler Murray tomorrow. I

1088
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, I think, listen, we get so caught up

1089
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: with all the kind of young, dynamic quarterbacks more and

1090
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: more emerging by the week, with CJ.

1091
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: Stroud and maybe Will Levis.

1092
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's going to be back tomorrow, obviously coming off

1093
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: that major knee surgery. I'm just I don't know what

1094
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: to expect. I'm excited. I'm happy to have him back.

1095
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: He is, at the very least entertaining. Arizona is certainly

1096
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: a better team with them as they with him, as

1097
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: they sit at one in eight. What do you make

1098
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: of or what are you expecting to see from Kyler

1099
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Murray in his return to the field tomorrow.

1100
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but I'll be really intrigued by it

1101
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 5: because I've read a few different articles this week that

1102
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 5: have kind of pointed to the idea that Kyler has

1103
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: been working very hard behind the scenes that he has

1104
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: been working on his attitude. He's been working on a

1105
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 5: lot of different things that have been knocks on him

1106
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 5: in the past few years. And he's coming back a different,

1107
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: maybe mature, maybe more mature player than he was when

1108
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 5: he left. Now we'll see. I have no idea. But

1109
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: the reason why I find it interesting is because they

1110
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 5: those same reports are saying that Arizona definitely has not

1111
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 5: decided to move on from him in the future. They're

1112
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 5: still looking at him and they're they're trying to make

1113
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: a decision as to whether or not he's going to

1114
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 5: be their guy long term. Even though they've you know,

1115
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 5: committed to him to some degree, there's speculation about what

1116
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: they're going to do with him and how how this

1117
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 5: is all going to work. They still have not given

1118
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: up belief in him. And if he actually has gone

1119
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 5: home and done some some searching, it's been a while

1120
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: since we've seen him, if he comes back with something

1121
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: to prove, if he has indeed kind of grown up

1122
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: a little bit, and I want to see what that

1123
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: version of Kyler Murray could look like. So it's not

1124
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: that I feel optimistic. I'm very curious because of the

1125
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: way this has been discussed over the past week or

1126
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 5: so with people that are close to that team. I'm

1127
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 5: intrigued and I'd love to see it. Like I'm rooting

1128
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 5: for him, I'm certainly not rooting against him. I'd love

1129
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 5: to see this be true because when he's really on

1130
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 5: and doing his thing, he can be absolutely must watch.

1131
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 5: And I'm just I'm fascinated to see how this plays out.

1132
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think my kind of takeaway or

1133
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: my take or whatever in the lead up to this

1134
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: game is essentially exactly what yours is. Is one excited

1135
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: just having back on the field, but then two also

1136
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: like it is just an interesting kind of inflection point

1137
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: in his career because you know, one of the highest

1138
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: paid players of the league. I think, you know what

1139
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: we remember talking about the Deshaun Watson guaranteed money. I

1140
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: think Kyle Murray has the second most guaranteed money in

1141
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: NFL history, or maybe at least he did going into

1142
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: the offseason. Obviously Justin Herbert got paid, Joe Burrow, et cetera.

1143
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: I bring it up because, like you said, I mean,

1144
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 3: right now, they'd be in position to have a top

1145
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: two pick.

1146
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 4: You know they would.

1147
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: They would in theory have a chance at Kayleb Williams

1148
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: and theory have a chance a Drake may or whomever

1149
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: they deem to be the.

1150
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: Next great guy.

1151
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: So I just think it's really interesting and I don't

1152
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: think it's a coincidence that in a year where you know,

1153
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: they either could have shut him.

1154
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 4: Down, like like, let me put it this way. I think,

1155
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: let me put it this way and tell me if

1156
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: you think I'm crazy.

1157
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: If this was God forbid, and I don't wish a

1158
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: major injury on anybody, if this was Trevor Lawrence or

1159
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, and again not wishing injury

1160
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: on anybody, but you knew for sure, like without a doubt,

1161
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: this is the guy for the next ten years. Do

1162
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: you think like if the Chiefs were one in eight

1163
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes could come back, do you think they

1164
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: would bring him back at this point, I don't know

1165
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: that they would. So I think the fact that the

1166
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: Cardinals are willing to do this, it's almost kind of

1167
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: a symbiotic thing of Kyler needs to prove himself a

1168
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: little bit and the Cardinals need to make sure because

1169
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: they could be in position to take his eventual replacement.

1170
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: I think that's interesting that that's an interesting theory. It's

1171
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 5: something to think about that. I mean, what are you

1172
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 5: gaining by bringing him back? They're not going to the

1173
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: playoffs and he's coming off this injury. But I mean,

1174
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: how much rust does he want? How much rust do

1175
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 5: you want him to want? Like, does he do you

1176
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: want him to sit out for the equivalent almost two years.

1177
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 5: It's it's intriguing just because again, I mean, there's a

1178
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 5: risk to it, but I do think there absolutely is

1179
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: something to the idea that they want to see what

1180
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 5: they've got right now because they still have half a

1181
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: season to add to, you know, whatever their evaluation happens

1182
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 5: to be of him at present, they have an opportunity

1183
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: to look at him for you know, eight nine weeks

1184
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 5: whatever it's going to be, and determine a little bit

1185
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: more about it. And they're going to give him the opportunity.

1186
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: And I could see if indeed some of this stuff

1187
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 5: is true about how he's conducted himself in recent months

1188
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: and what he's gone to do and how hard he's worked,

1189
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 5: that he wants to prove it and this be an indicator.

1190
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: It's just would Kyler Murray even allow Hi stuff to

1191
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: go back in at this point, or will you just

1192
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 5: be like just leave me it home? Like I don't know,

1193
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: and I don't know that he would be necessarily in

1194
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: control of it. But this is a move that it

1195
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: doesn't seem on the face to make all that much sense,

1196
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: except that because if you're the Cardinals and you want

1197
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: to move on from him, the easiest way to do

1198
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: that is to bottom out and get the quarterback. You're

1199
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 5: bringing in somebody that gives you a better chance to win,

1200
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: and as such, that might make it harder for you

1201
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: to draft his replacement, at least the version of it

1202
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 5: that you want, because you'd be in the running, one

1203
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 5: would think for the overall number one pick, Kyler Murray's

1204
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: probably even even if he's not great, he's still probably

1205
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 5: good for two or three wins, and that's going to

1206
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 5: knock you out of the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.

1207
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 3: Thousand percent really quickly. I've been teasing it for a while,

1208
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: so we should pay it off. Miami Dolphins. Who who

1209
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: I You know, I loved the story all season long,

1210
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: like just an awesome story, you know, It's it's just

1211
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: fun and it's fresh, and they haven't been so good

1212
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: and two is so easy, like et cetera. You and

1213
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: I we previewed that game last week, and I don't

1214
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: want to speak for you. I think we both picked

1215
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: Miami to beat case In in uh in Germany, or

1216
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: at least keep it close. Certainly it was close, but

1217
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: you know, the Dolphins trail twenty one to nothing at

1218
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: the half. They did rally keep it competitive. But you

1219
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: look at the schedule right now, uh three. Three losses

1220
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: were to the Chiefs in a game that wasn't really competitive,

1221
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: the Eagles in a game that wasn't really competitive, and

1222
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: the Bills in a game that certainly wasn't competitive.

1223
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: And you look at their wins outside of the Chargers

1224
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 4: in Week.

1225
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: One, when I don't think anybody really knew what to

1226
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: expect or what was coming with this offense, a lot

1227
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: of wins over the Patriots and the Panthers and the Giants.

1228
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: Where are we with.

1229
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: The Dolphins because they're still in first place that you know,

1230
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: and they're just such a fun story. But I do

1231
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: think it's becoming increasingly harder for me to say no, no,

1232
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: no, no no. They match up well with Baltimore and they

1233
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: could beat the I think they are what they are,

1234
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: and until they beat some of these high Rachelan teams,

1235
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to dissuade me otherwise.

1236
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean comparably. They kind of remind me of

1237
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: Ole Miss, They remind me of USC, They remind me

1238
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 5: of Penn State. They remind me of a team that

1239
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: in big games just doesn't look quite the same. Now

1240
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: do they? Chargers, Patriots, Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Patriots? Those are

1241
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 5: their wins. What were we talking about the Patriots earlier? Oh,

1242
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 5: we were talking about the fact that their coach might

1243
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 5: be leaving at the end of the year, per Diana Rassini,

1244
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 5: because they're a two win team. Loose to the Chiefs

1245
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 5: score fourteen points, loose to the Bills score twenty points,

1246
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 5: some of that late loose to Eagles score seventeen points.

1247
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 5: This and that high powered offense. When they play against

1248
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: also rams, they dominate them, and when they play against

1249
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 5: main eventers they get knocked out. The progrestling and algae

1250
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 5: that I would make for this that you probably will

1251
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 5: not understand, but there will be some people out there

1252
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 5: that will get this. Miami is Seamus Miami is a

1253
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 5: jobber to the stars period. They when they play against

1254
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 5: the best teams, they still find a way to and

1255
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 5: until further notice, this is who they are. Like you said,

1256
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: they're going to have to shake this reputation by I

1257
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 5: don't know, beating Dallas on Christmas Eve or honestly, you

1258
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 5: know some of these teams. I mean, the Jets games

1259
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: aren't going to be easy for them, but they played

1260
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 5: their last three games of the year. They played Dallas

1261
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 5: at Baltimore and Buffalo. You're gonna find out right there

1262
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 5: whether or not this is an all flash kind of

1263
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 5: team or whether or not there's some substance here. They've

1264
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 5: got talent, there's no question they've got talent, but that

1265
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 5: talent seems to look different against certain opponents. And those

1266
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 5: are the opponents that you're going to see in January.

1267
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 5: And I am definitely concerned that this is just kind

1268
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 5: of who the Miami Dolphins are. They're a team that

1269
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 5: could beat the teams that you think they should be

1270
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 5: able to beat, but anytime that just kind of up

1271
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: in the air, I would not bet very much on

1272
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 5: them right now.

1273
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: Completely unrelated to that, did not realize that Christmas Eve

1274
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: fell on a Sunday, so loaded slate on Christmas even then.

1275
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: And I know you and I have talked, we've talked

1276
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: about this for probably two years now. But the triple

1277
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: header Christmas Day NFL, I mean, the matchups aren't necessarily

1278
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: the sexiest. Although Baltimore at San Francisco doesn't matter. Hey hey, hey, hey,

1279
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: hey hey, tell your wives, tell your kids. Baltimore San

1280
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: Francisco eight fifteen Eastern on Christmas Day. So we ain't

1281
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: watching Ralphie with his shotgun. We're not watching a Christmas

1282
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: story on Christmas Day, Okay, Christmas.

1283
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 5: That means play. It plays for like seventy two hours

1284
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 5: in a row. You'll have the opportunity to see that

1285
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 5: at some point in time.

1286
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: Well, tell your wife and tell your kids you want

1287
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: to watch.

1288
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna have to be before eight to fifteen Eastern

1289
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: because that is a heck of a way to end

1290
01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: the Christmas Day.

1291
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: How they tell you what Jason will come back. As

1292
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 4: I said, there is.

1293
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: One interesting story out of the NFNBA excuse me that

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Speaker 3: you may have missed. It's because, let's be honest, nobody's

1295
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: paying attention. We'll explain that next. But first, news desk disager.

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Speaker 3: You were about to help me out with my Christmas story.

1297
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: I was tripping over my word there. I couldn't remember

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: the name.

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Speaker 8: And also on Christmas weekend for the NFL, they have

1300
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 8: a streaming only game on that Saturday night, the twenty

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01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 8: third of December, the Chargers will be hosting Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I don't currently get that app. I think I'm going

1303
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 4: to have to get it to discern.

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, or you could just live in Ohio and complain

1305
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 8: about it. As for the college football, we've got a

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 8: halftime lead for Oregon over USC. Yes, UCLA is lost

1307
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 8: at home to Arizona State, which was two and seven,

1308
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 8: as you lost last week fifty five to three to Utah,

1309
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 8: not a good team. So we've got a lot of

1310
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 8: college football to get to. But I must mention this.

1311
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 8: Eli Manning is part owner of the women's soccer team

1312
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 8: New York, New Jersey Gotham FC.

1313
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: They call themselves.

1314
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 8: They just won their first NWSL title and he was

1315
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 8: there in San Diego watching it. Wall Street Journal points

1316
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 8: out this franchise five years ago trained at facilities that

1317
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 8: lacked running water, no showers, no working toilets. Even last

1318
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 8: year in the standings they finished last in this league.

1319
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 8: They've just tonight finished a playoff run getting the title,

1320
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 8: and another one of their part owners, Sue Byrd, was

1321
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 8: there to see them beat Megan Rappino's team in the

1322
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 8: final two to one, and Rapino, in her final ever

1323
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 8: soccer game, was injured in the third minute.

1324
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Speaker 3: A lot of final evers with Megan Repino, this is

1325
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: a different one. But anyway, I have to say I'm

1326
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: being right.

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 5: I'm sad about the I never want to see somebody

1328
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 5: get injured. Not not too upset that she lost though.

1329
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: Apparent achilles injury. And she's.

1330
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Speaker 4: Yes, oh my goodness, I am so yeah.

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Speaker 8: She had her last US game in the summer. This

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 8: is the end of the women's league. This is as

1333
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 8: for the Oregon Ducks, ranked sixth in college football. The

1334
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 8: lead is twenty two fourteen over USC at halftime. This

1335
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 8: is the late night game on Fox TV. Bo Nicks

1336
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 8: with three touchdown passes eight of twelve through the air

1337
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 8: in the first half two hundred and sixty two yards.

1338
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 8: The late night game on FS one has still three

1339
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 8: minutes to go. In the third Boise State now up

1340
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 8: thirty nine fourteen over New Mexico, and in the third quarter.

1341
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 8: It's Iowa State still leading at BYU thirty eight thirteen

1342
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Speaker 8: in the Mountain West. Fresno State's eight and one overall

1343
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 8: this year. Fresno's losing at halftime twenty eight ten at

1344
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 8: San Jose State Air Force eight and one this year,

1345
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 8: they're losing at halftime at Hawaii thirteen to three. Easy

1346
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 8: wins for number one Ohio State and number two Georgia.

1347
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 8: Number three Michigan won at Penn State today twenty four

1348
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 8: to fifteen. Number four Florida State over Miami twenty seven

1349
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 8: to twenty and fifth ranked Washington beat Utah thirty five

1350
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Speaker 8: to twenty eight. Final at the Rose Bowl tonight, Arizona

1351
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 8: State seventeen to seven over Ucla. It was ten nothing

1352
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 8: with ten minutes to go. Ucla hold and they do

1353
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 8: have a defense this year actually holds as you to

1354
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 8: two hundred and fifty total yards and that's still the

1355
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 8: winning side with those numbers. Meanwhile, Jade and Daniels over

1356
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 8: six hundred total yards by himself as LSU at home

1357
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 8: beat Florida fifty two to thirty five. At Oklahoma, Dylan

1358
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 8: Gabriel eight total touchdowns in a victory over West Virginia

1359
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 8: fifty nine to twenty. Late field goals got Texas Techa

1360
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 8: win at Kansas, got Arizona a win at Colorado. North

1361
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Speaker 8: Carolina in double overtime beat Duke forty seven forty five.

1362
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 8: Central Florida at home, ripped fifteenth rank to Oklahoma State

1363
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 8: forty five to three. In the NHL, Saint Louis an

1364
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 8: eight to two winner against Colorado, which had been eight

1365
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 8: and four of the young season. Arizona won seven to

1366
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Speaker 8: five at Nashville. As for college hoops, number six Yukon

1367
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 8: won easily against dreaded stone Hill today one oh seven

1368
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 8: sixty seven stone Hill College Northeast Conference in its second

1369
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 8: year Division one basketball, and Friday they'll be at Kentucky.

1370
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 8: Easy wins for number seven Houston, number eight Creighton, but

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Speaker 8: in hoops Western Carolina wins at Notre Dame seventy one

1372
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 8: sixty one. In fact, the Irish were trailing in the

1373
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 8: second half fifty five thirty nine. And holy Cross won

1374
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 8: at Georgetown tonight sixty eight sixty seven. Holy Cross was

1375
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 8: down by eleven with under eight minutes left and came back.

1376
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 8: You know, I'm old enough to remember when Georgetown was

1377
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,480
Speaker 8: good at basketball.

1378
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: Wow, back to you must be older than I thought

1379
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: you were to say, Nah, kidding, it's so sad. Fox

1380
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: Sports Radio Air Tours, Jason Martin, I'll actually be joining

1381
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: Bernie Fridda at about eleven fifteen Pacific two fifteen Eastern

1382
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 3: time to talk little college hoops with the season here

1383
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: to saga. Will be back in just a few minutes

1384
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: for his extended update.

1385
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 5: When was the last time, by the way, Georgetown was good?

1386
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 5: Was it the Atto Porter? Yeah, that those teams, the

1387
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: teams that to Florida Gulf Coast.

1388
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was about twenty thirteen, and they were

1389
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 3: like a two I think they were, Yeah, because you

1390
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 3: know that was the first time ever a fifteen advanced

1391
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 3: to the Sweet sixteen. By the way, Andy Enfield, who

1392
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 3: is the coach of that team, has a very good

1393
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: team at USC College. Hoops tipped off this weekend or

1394
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: this week really lackluster start, but you know, I think

1395
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: things really kind of got going yesterday with with Arizona

1396
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: Duke in a lot of interesting games last night. Speaking

1397
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 3: of hoops, Jason, let me ask you a question. We

1398
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 3: are two weeks into the NBA play in tournament that

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 3: has a bunch of regular season games that nobody really.

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01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 3: I guess you can differentiate because the court is different.

1401
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: But two weeks in, Jason, what is your favorite moment

1402
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 3: of the playing tournament so far?

1403
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 5: I mean, was the thirty eight point game for Victor

1404
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 5: wein Mignon? Was that part of it? I asked that

1405
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 5: question because I absolutely have no idea, so Jason.

1406
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 4: I want to say I was gonna set it up.

1407
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: Jason and I are little tongue in cheek, but you know,

1408
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 3: you and I were on air about an hour after

1409
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: they made the big grand announcement at Summer League about this,

1410
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: and I might have been naive, but I was under

1411
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 3: the impression that the mid season tournament was literally a tournament.

1412
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 3: And I thought, you got all thirty teams in Vegas.

1413
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: I thought it sounded fun. I thought it'd be different.

1414
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be March Madness. I thought it'd be

1415
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 3: you know, March Madison December, January, February. And I remember

1416
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: you and I being on air, and I'm trying to

1417
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: explain it, and I can't because there's certain regular season

1418
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: games that matter towards standings for this event, and there's

1419
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 3: certain games that don't. And I'm looking at the standings

1420
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: now and some teams have played two games that count

1421
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: towards the NBA Cup or whatever we're calling it. There's

1422
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 3: some teams that have played one. It was confusing when

1423
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: we started this whole thing back in July. It doesn't

1424
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 3: feel any less confusing. I guess the court kind of

1425
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: gives away when it's a game of impact to say,

1426
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 3: do you want to chime in?

1427
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: That has been the highlight of the tournament.

1428
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 8: Different courts, and in fact, a week ago when Denver

1429
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 8: opened the tournament, the three point line was not painted

1430
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 8: at the correct distance the appointed the opponent. During shoot around,

1431
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 8: one of the guys said, wait a minute, my shots

1432
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 8: off and I don't think this is me and they measured.

1433
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 8: They had to repaint in the afternoon before the evening game.

1434
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 8: And then last night that was Dallas on the road.

1435
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 8: Last night, Dallas was at home and they were the

1436
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 8: only team using a regular court because there's quote wasn't

1437
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 8: up to standards something with the paint tournament games of course,

1438
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 8: having these specially painted courts, and the players are wearing

1439
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 8: the city edition uniforms. Apparently the nd season tournament games

1440
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 8: are played on most Tuesday and Friday nights. This month,

1441
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 8: and yes, they're going to Vegas for the semis and final.

1442
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: Next just listen to what you just said. They're played

1443
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: on most Tuesdays and Fridays. They took Election night off.

1444
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, if that's the only exception, then okay,

1445
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 4: I sort of get.

1446
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: Most of America took Election night off.

1447
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: Also, yes, no, and that, by the way, for people

1448
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: who wonder why the college basketball tip off is so lackluster,

1449
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: it's because it used to be that first Tuesday they

1450
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: play the Champions Classic Duke Duke Duke, Kentucky, Michigan State, Kansas.

1451
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: Then they wanted to change it for Election Day whatever.

1452
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: Back to the NBA. Listen, I'm not gonna do the

1453
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 3: thing where like I just destroy Adam Silver.

1454
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: I come on there playing for the NBA Cup.

1455
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: That's not the what like, maybe it'll be cool when.

1456
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: Cash they're playing for cash.

1457
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be cool when they'll when you know, however,

1458
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: many teams get to Vegas. But this is like my

1459
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: problem with Adam Silver. Four teams, I assume, Yeah, that's what.

1460
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 3: And first of all, by the way, the semi finals

1461
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: on a Thursday night. By the way, Steelers Patriots, I

1462
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: know neither you know, the Patriots certainly aren't very good,

1463
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 3: but America is gonna be watching the two of the

1464
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: five biggest brands in the NFL, not you know, Grizzlies,

1465
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: Raptors or whatever.

1466
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: But it's just my problem with Adam Silver.

1467
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 3: It's like, even when he tries to do something innovative

1468
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 3: and whatever, let alone all the bad stuff he's done,

1469
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: he screws it up. It's complicated, it's confusing. There's different

1470
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 3: courts except when there aren't. You play on Fridays, except

1471
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: when you don't, and some of.

1472
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 8: The courts are just horrid to watch for two hours.

1473
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 8: With the all Red Bulls or the all Red Miami Heat.

1474
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 8: They gotta do something about this.

1475
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 3: All Red is my blood boiling talking about this, Jason,

1476
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: you haven't even had a chance to chime, And I apologize.

1477
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 4: I'm just rambling and screaming here. But it's just every.

1478
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: Time he has a chance to do it like, it's

1479
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: just screwed up and confusing.

1480
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 4: Like just play a stupid tournament in the middle of

1481
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: the season in Vegas, it would be awesome, But the

1482
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 4: four is here. Jason.

1483
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean we've been talking about coaches

1484
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 5: getting too cute. Yeah, exactly, this is that's exactly what

1485
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 5: this is. This is completely unnecessary. My argument against the

1486
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 5: SB Awards is always the same. The reason why they

1487
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 5: give out the Oscars, the reason why they give out

1488
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 5: the Academy Awards or the Emmys, is because that is

1489
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 5: the only championship that you can win in movies or

1490
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 5: in television or whatever. That or that's the prime one.

1491
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,919
Speaker 5: There are other smaller ones, but that's the prime one.

1492
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 5: In sports, there's a thing called a championship that is

1493
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 5: won by one team at the end of every sporting

1494
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 5: year in every sport. So you don't need these other things.

1495
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 5: Plus there's MVPs, and there's all these things for individual

1496
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 5: accomplishments as well as team team accomplishments. So the ESPECE

1497
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 5: was unnecessary. The NBA already has a trophy. They give

1498
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 5: it out at the end of the year. Unless you're

1499
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 5: gonna make this something special in novel and to your point,

1500
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 5: do it all in one city, and do it all

1501
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 5: in like a week, and just make it a thing

1502
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 5: mid season, have fun with it and maybe donate to

1503
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 5: charity or something. Everybody gets involved in it actually matters.

1504
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 5: They don't bother and the reason why I was skeptical

1505
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 5: about it is we go to break and we could

1506
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 5: talk more about it later maybe, But generally speaking, the

1507
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 5: reason I was skeptical about it is because I didn't

1508
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 5: think the players were gonna care. And if they couldn't,

1509
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 5: if they could not show me that it was important

1510
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 5: to them, then there's no way it was going to

1511
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 5: be important to me or a bunch of other sports

1512
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 5: fans out there, especially smack dab in the middle of

1513
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 5: college football towards the end of that year, in the

1514
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 5: middle of the NFL season, and guess what's happened. I

1515
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 5: forgot to play in tournament was a thing, or the

1516
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 5: mid season tournament or whatever the heck it's called. I

1517
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 5: had no idea, like, every day or two, it'll hit

1518
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 5: me again, Oh yeah, that tournament thing is still a

1519
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 5: thing on Tuesdays and Fridays apparently.

1520
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1521
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you thinking, what are you doing?

1522
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 4: Every Friday?

1523
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: I see a handful of NBA writers tweeting about courts,

1524
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: and that's when I'm like, oh, okay, this must be

1525
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 3: going on.

1526
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 4: But anyways, otherwise it feels totally the same.

1527
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 3: And you know, again, I get the idea of being

1528
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: creative and doing something different, but just don't love the

1529
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 3: execution so far. Keeping the update on the late college

1530
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 3: football USC Oregon second half has just started.

1531
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: Oregon up twenty two to fourteen.

1532
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: By the way, we just had about about one hundred

1533
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 3: yard interception return in the San Jose State Fresno State game.

1534
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 4: Fresno State's eight and one. Kind of an interesting team.

1535
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: San Jose State is domined and as I said, about

1536
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: one hundred yard interception return for the Spartans. When we

1537
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: come back, we will give the floor back to to

1538
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 3: Sager his extended update where he gets you caught up

1539
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: on so much that we've missed throughout the day in

1540
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 3: sports to Sager's next Fox Sports Radio.

1541
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,639
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Speaker 8: Much great college football to get to with you guys

1550
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 8: who were mentioning that other sports have their awards. A

1551
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 8: reminder the MLB award schedule really gets going on Monday,

1552
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 8: when the Rookie of the Year announcements come out. Tuesday,

1553
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 8: Managers of the Year Wednesday, we'll find out the young

1554
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 8: Award winners in each league, and Thursday the MVPs update

1555
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 8: on the college football game on Fox TV at Numbers, Oregon.

1556
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 8: Third quarter, the Ducks have scored again to lead USC

1557
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 8: twenty nine to fourteen. Bo Nicks with his fourth touchdown

1558
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 8: pass in two and a half quarters. He is seventeen

1559
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 8: of twenty one three hundred thirty three yards. We'll get

1560
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 8: to LSU's quarterback in just a moment. The late game

1561
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 8: on FS one is going to the fourth quarter at

1562
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,919
Speaker 8: Boise State on the Blue turf. You know, the Broncos

1563
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 8: are not that good this year four and five, but

1564
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 8: Boise leads thirty nine to fourteen over New Mexico. Starting

1565
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter at BYU, it's Iowa State in the

1566
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 8: lead forty five thirteen. Meanwhile, Fresno State, with an eight

1567
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 8: and one record, is now down thirty five ten at

1568
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 8: San Jose State early third the late game at Hawaii,

1569
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 8: the home team's still ahead of eight and one air

1570
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 8: Force thirteen to ten. Now Hawaii leads in the third quarter.

1571
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 8: As far as LSU's quarterback Jaden Daniels, my goodness, first

1572
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 8: player in the history of FBS football tonight to throw

1573
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 8: for at least three hundred and fifty yards and run

1574
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 8: for at least two hundred yards in the same game,

1575
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 8: Tigers beat the Florida Gators fifty two to thirty five.

1576
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 8: Florida actually led briefly mid third quarter, but the Gators

1577
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 8: now five and five this season. Jayden Daniels over six

1578
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 8: hundred total yards five total touchdowns just on the ground

1579
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 8: on only twelve carries. He had two hundred thirty four

1580
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 8: yards rushing. There are a lot of stats, some brought

1581
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 8: up already in the show about how bad Penn State

1582
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 8: has been against good teams. Michigan won at Penn State

1583
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 8: today twenty four to fifteen. How about this one from

1584
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 8: the athletics. Since Penn State won the Big Ten title

1585
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 8: game in twenty sixteen, their record against Top ten clubs

1586
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 8: one and thirteen, and in fact, the Penn State program

1587
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 8: since the year two thousand six and thirty one against

1588
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 8: ap top ten teams. Remember, it was Michigan for the

1589
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 8: longest time that couldn't win the big game. Michigan until

1590
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 8: a couple of years ago, had a stretch where they

1591
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 8: were two and twenty three against the top ten. It

1592
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 8: has flipped. Did you notice the Arizona story a yesterday?

1593
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 8: Now Arizona on the field, ranked twenty first, did get

1594
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 8: a win at Colorado today thirty four thirty one with

1595
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 8: a short field goal on the final play and key

1596
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 8: late in the first half, Arizona made a fifty two

1597
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 8: yard field goal. Jonah Coleman on only eleven carries one

1598
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy nine yards rushing. This is a ranked team.

1599
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 8: They're going to the Big twelve Conference next year. But

1600
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 8: the Arizona athletic department is struggling financially and the university

1601
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 8: A president acknowledged in a meeting with the Board of

1602
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 8: regents this month that the athletic department there is not

1603
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 8: producing the revenue that was expected after the pandemic. As

1604
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 8: he put it, we had assumed when we used cash

1605
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 8: on hand to support athletics, there would be an increase

1606
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 8: in revenue and it's just not turned out to be

1607
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 8: the case. Arizona Daily Stars said. The Arizona athletic department

1608
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 8: got a loan of fifty five million dollars during the

1609
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 8: height of the pandemic, and quote that hasn't been paid

1610
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 8: back fast enough. There's a wider budget shortfall for the

1611
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 8: entire university, a chance that the athletic department at Arizona

1612
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 8: may have to cut some of its twenty sports. Meanwhile,

1613
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 8: Washington beat Utah today thirty five, twenty eight. Washington still

1614
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 8: undefeated since Pete Carroll's USC team. Only one club in

1615
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 8: the Pac twelve has started ten and zero or better.

1616
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 8: That was Oregon twenty ten and Oregon twenty twelve.

1617
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: Very interesting, Thank you very much to Seger. Yeah, it

1618
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 3: looks like we could be trending towards a Washington Oregon

1619
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: essentially a college football playing game. If Washington can win

1620
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 3: one of its final two in Oregon wins out Oregon

1621
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 3: up twenty nine to fourteen. When we come back, Jason Martin,

1622
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: we will continue the conversation on college football look Ahead

1623
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Speaker 3: two week ten of the NFL Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4: Are you welcome in everybody our three tours and Martin

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Speaker 3: the late game of significance, Oregon up twenty nine to

1632
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: fourteen on usc third quarter. We will keep you updated

1633
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: on that. Jason, let's I want to talk to you

1634
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 3: right now. So we led the show with Michigan and

1635
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: Penn State, and if you miss that, I go back

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1637
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Speaker 4: Let's say Oregon wins tonight, Like, how do Like?

1638
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: I don't even know if there's really a question that

1639
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: I want to ask, but I look at the way

1640
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 3: Oregon plays on both sides of the ball.

1641
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 4: I look at listen. Okay, let me rephrase.

1642
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 3: I think we saw it tonight For people who missed it,

1643
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: Georgia beat Ole Miss fifty two to seventeen. And earlier

1644
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 3: in the show, Jason and I talked about the idea

1645
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: that when they're at their best, when they're motivated, when

1646
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: they feel like they're being doubted. I still think george

1647
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: is the best team. I think Jason does too. I'll

1648
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 3: let you speak for yourself in a minute, Jason, but

1649
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: I will say you start to look beyond Georgia, whether

1650
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 3: it's Alabama, whether it's Frankly, this Oregon team that just

1651
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: keeps winning. I mean, even the game against Washington, they're

1652
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 3: one play away. You know, we focus so much on Washington,

1653
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: but Oregon was one play away on the road in

1654
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: a game where they outgained that Washington attack. They were

1655
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 3: one play away, a fourth down conversion from sealing that

1656
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 3: win and the game was over. So I just bring

1657
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 3: it up because Oregon looking really good. Washington wins again,

1658
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: as Disaga said, the first ten win team in the

1659
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 3: PAC twelve since twenty fourth or first ten and oh

1660
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: start for a Pac twelve team since twenty fourteen.

1661
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 4: You go on and on down the list.

1662
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 3: Florida State's ten and oh Texas is nine to one,

1663
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: first nine win season of Steve Sarkisian's career.

1664
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 4: I just think that the field.

1665
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: I know We've said it a few times, and I

1666
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: still think that Georgia at its best is still the

1667
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: best team in the country.

1668
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 4: It does feel like the field is wide open.

1669
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: Like I could see this Oregon team going to the

1670
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: College Football Playoff and then beating a Michigan and playing

1671
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: for a championship. I could see Florida State doing that.

1672
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 3: If Texas gets in, I could see them doing that.

1673
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 3: Feels more wide open than most years. Jason, Do you

1674
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 3: agree with that?

1675
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 5: Still?

1676
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1677
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 5: I do. I mean I think that I think the

1678
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 5: argument's easy now that Oregon is better than Washington, even

1679
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 5: though Washington beat them, at least certainly since that point,

1680
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 5: I think they've played better football than Washington has. You

1681
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 5: can argue you mentioned Florida State. Certainly Alabama is playing

1682
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 5: at a completely different level than the team. They don't

1683
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 5: even resemble the team offensively that faced Texas early in

1684
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 5: the year. Ohio State is Ohio State, Michigan is Michigan.

1685
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 5: There it does seem like to me again, Georgia has

1686
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 5: a different gear that they can reach when they have to,

1687
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 5: and that was what we saw last night against Ole Miss.

1688
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 5: That Old Miss team came in feeling good about themselves.

1689
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 5: It scored a lot of points. They got embarrassed. That

1690
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 5: Georgia team's the best team in the country. The one

1691
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 5: that we saw last night that's the best team in

1692
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 5: the country. Outside of that, though, I think that there

1693
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 5: are arguments that could be made for a myriad of

1694
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 5: different teams, more so than in years past, where you

1695
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 5: just have and there's a lot of teams that could

1696
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 5: beat one another on a various day or on a

1697
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 5: given day, and it's going to come down to the

1698
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 5: matchups and who ultimately gets these four spots. This would

1699
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 5: be a year where a twelve teams playoff would be

1700
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 5: interesting just to see how a lot of it would

1701
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 5: shake out, because it doesn't feel like it has the

1702
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 5: distance between nearly as many teams as we have seen

1703
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 5: in the past, where it's just like, well, there's this

1704
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 5: group and then everybody else. It's like, no, I'm not

1705
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 5: even sure that there's Georgia and everybody else, even though

1706
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 5: the Georgia we saw last night, I think there is

1707
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 5: that team and everybody else. But outside of that, I

1708
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 5: do think that we are closer to parody when it

1709
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 5: comes to I'd say, you know, seven is eightish teams

1710
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 5: that could all make noise in the right circumstance.

1711
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: You know, my argument for years about not expanding the

1712
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 3: playoff was I didn't really feel like we were leaving

1713
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: teams out that were good enough to win the national championship.

1714
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: I think this year we're going to I think we

1715
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 3: are going to I mean, if let's put it this way,

1716
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 3: the loser of Georgia Alabama is almost certainly not going

1717
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 3: to be in the playoff. Just the way that things

1718
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 3: are shaking, there's probably going to be a PAC twelve representative.

1719
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 4: There's probably going to be.

1720
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: A you know, ACC representative there. You know, there's probably

1721
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: going to be a scenario where the loser that game

1722
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: is not in. I don't know if Washington can win

1723
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 3: a national championship, but if they play an eleven to

1724
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: one Oregon team in the PAC twelve championship game and

1725
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 3: they lose, you feel awful that all their whole season

1726
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: they don't get a chance to compete at the highest level.

1727
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 3: They finished twelve to zero in the PAC twelve and

1728
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking hypothetically, and they obviously have two games left,

1729
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: but you know, use to Oregon, it's going to be

1730
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 3: an organ that's representing the PAC twelve. By the way,

1731
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 3: we have a very interesting scenario that you brought up

1732
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: to me earlier, which I think other people have discussed,

1733
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 3: but it is worth noting the scenario where what if

1734
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 3: Texas wins out, I mean, what if Tech you know,

1735
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: let's just say for the sake of argument, we have

1736
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: an undefeated Washington and undefeated Florida State and an undefeated Michigan,

1737
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 3: you know, at the top of the standings in those

1738
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: particular spots. If Alabama wins out and is the SEC

1739
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 3: champ and Texas wins out and is the Big twelve champ,

1740
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: they would both have one loss, and Texas would have

1741
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: the head to head win over Alabama. So that is

1742
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: maybe the most interesting college football playoff scenario left. I

1743
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: still don't know if Texas is gonna win out, and

1744
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: certainly don't know if Alabama's gonna win out because they

1745
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: still have to face Georgia.

1746
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 4: But there's so many interesting scenarios left.

1747
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: And I will say, like, like, I'm gonna kind of

1748
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: miss the fourteen playoff because, like you know, again, and

1749
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 3: Alabama and Georgia are gonna play in the SEC championship

1750
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: game in this particular year. If if one is undefeated

1751
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: and one has one loss, they'll both still make the

1752
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: playoff regardless of who wins. So those championship games will

1753
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 3: maybe take on mess less meaning. But on the flip side,

1754
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: I do think there's going to be teams this year

1755
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: that have been left out or that will be left out,

1756
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: that are going to be good enough to compete to

1757
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: win the thing, that are not ultimately not going to

1758
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: make that final fo him.

1759
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's definitely true. And the

1760
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 5: Alabama Texas argument becomes fascinating because yes, Texas beat them

1761
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 5: head to head, but who's better. Well, if Alabama beach Georgia,

1762
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 5: I don't know that there's a great argument for Texas.

1763
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 5: Even if they went out. It's like, yeah, they beat Alabama,

1764
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah they did. They beat them really early in the year,

1765
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: and that team is not the same team if they

1766
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 5: played right now, who would win? And that would be

1767
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 5: the question? And then you're in hypothetical land. And that

1768
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 5: changes when you get to a twelve team playoff because

1769
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 5: everybody's going to have an opportunity. Some might be in

1770
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 5: a better position or face a team that's a little

1771
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 5: bit easier along the road than the other one would,

1772
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 5: but at the same time, they're both going to get

1773
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 5: their opportunity in that moment. This year, there's going to

1774
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 5: be a one loss team or a really good two

1775
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 5: loss team, maybe somebody loses in a conference championship game

1776
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 5: that gets left out that very much. If things have

1777
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 5: broken the right way, could be in the college football

1778
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 5: Playoff and would have a shot to win a national championship.

1779
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 5: I think that's a great reality for college football in

1780
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 5: the future. And I also think it's a great advertisement

1781
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 5: in advance for the expanded college football playoff. If we

1782
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 5: are all talking at the end of the conference championship

1783
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 5: weekend about holy cow, imagine if you had a twelve

1784
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 5: team playoff this year, and you had this team and

1785
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 5: this team and this team who are all going to

1786
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 5: be playing in New Year six bowl games that don't

1787
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 5: matter nearly as much next year. Boy, I do think

1788
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 5: that this sets the stage for everybody to be ready

1789
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 5: for a twelve team playoff if and a lot of

1790
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 5: times when you get to these last few weeks of

1791
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 5: the season, weird things happen and some of these teams

1792
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 5: find their way to losses and we don't have the

1793
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 5: same discussions. I'm not so sure we're going to see

1794
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 5: that because we've seen a lot of bullets being dodged

1795
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 5: by these teams. Today was a day or yesterday was

1796
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 5: a day where a lot of these teams could have lost,

1797
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 5: and none of them did. Almost none of them that

1798
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: were in this mix lost, and it just it kind

1799
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 5: of sets the stage for a lot of chalk to

1800
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 5: finish the season really quickly.

1801
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: You know, we both agree George is the best team,

1802
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, when they hit the peak like they did

1803
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, taking care of business against the top

1804
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 3: ten on MISS team. Fifty one to seventeen was the

1805
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 3: final score there. But quickly outside of them, who do

1806
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 3: you believe is best built to win? Because I'll tell

1807
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: you, you know, we're watching this Oregon team right now. They're

1808
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: not running USC off the field, but to me, they

1809
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 3: look the part man. I mean, first of all, USC

1810
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 3: only has fourteen points of the end of the third quarter.

1811
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: You know, Oregon has moved the ball up and down

1812
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 3: the field four hundred and sixteen yards of total offense.

1813
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks has been phenomenal. Again, by the way, it'd

1814
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: be an incredible story if bo Nix ends up winning

1815
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 3: the Heisman. But I look at them and I think,

1816
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: you know, with the way Michigan looked today, ironically, Miss

1817
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: really hasn't run the ball well up until Saturday afternoon

1818
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 3: against Penn State, and they've passed it much better. On Saturday,

1819
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: they didn't even attempt to pass it. But you know,

1820
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 3: you look at Michigan, it didn't look the way it

1821
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 3: has against the inferior competition that they've played.

1822
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 4: Alabama.

1823
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe has gotten better every single week, But is

1824
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: he the guy that can win back to back games?

1825
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 3: Does anybody stand out to you behind Georgia, because I

1826
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: think there's about four or five teams, but I think

1827
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 3: this Oregon team that's on TV right now could absolutely

1828
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: be in the mix. Of course, they have to win out,

1829
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: which would likely include a win a revenge win if

1830
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: you will over over Washington in the PAC twelve championship game.

1831
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think they'll get that opportunity, and I

1832
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 5: think I would agree. I think that Oregon might be

1833
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 5: able to That might be the best case them in

1834
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 5: Alabama right now, which is fascinating considering what a lot

1835
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 5: we're saying, including us, about Alabama five or six weeks ago.

1836
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 5: But jayl Miilroe over the last six weeks has twenty

1837
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 5: one touchdowns and sixty seven percent completion percentage right now,

1838
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 5: and the defense has come around and are starting. I mean,

1839
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 5: that was an impressive win. I know Kentucky's not all

1840
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 5: that or anything, but they dominated that game and six

1841
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 5: touchdowns for Milroll along the way. They're gonna have the

1842
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 5: opportunity to prove their case, certainly when they play against

1843
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 5: George in the SEC Championship game. But I like the

1844
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 5: Oregon pick. Florida State has dodged a couple of bullets

1845
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 5: too close for my comfort and everybody else. Washington's undefeated,

1846
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: but they just to me don't feel nearly as complete

1847
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 5: as Oregon does, So I think I would actually agree

1848
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 5: with you and say it's probably Oregon right now that

1849
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 5: I feel the best about Michigan. I still need to

1850
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 5: see more. Last yesterday was the first game that you've

1851
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 5: seen them against competition that you would really classify as competition.

1852
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 5: Ohio State will get a bit more of them there,

1853
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 5: But Ohio State's undefeated, and I didn't even mention them

1854
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 5: here because I just don't think they're that good. I

1855
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 5: just don't. I think Marvin Harrison Junior is really good.

1856
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 5: I think some of their defensive players certainly are very good.

1857
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 5: But that's about it.

1858
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't a funny we talked about all these teams

1859
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: I think can win it.

1860
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: We don't have the number one team in the country

1861
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 3: in the mix there, but I tend to agree, and

1862
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 3: really quickly you did mention Florida State.

1863
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 4: I think it's worth noting with them. You know, they

1864
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 4: win by seven today.

1865
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: As Seger said earlier that Miami rivalry is always a

1866
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 3: close one. They feel like the team to me, they

1867
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 3: better not lose a game. And you know, you feel

1868
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 3: bad saying you have to go undefeated, but it feels

1869
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: like if everybody wins out and you have a one

1870
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 3: loss Texas in the Big Twelve and a one loss

1871
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: or undefeated SEC team, if Florida State ends up with

1872
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 3: one loss and everybody else has one or zero losses,

1873
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 3: it does kind of feel like Florida State's going to

1874
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: be the odd team OUNTA and frankly, you know, listen,

1875
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: I hate to be to be mean because they're in

1876
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 3: the middle of an incredible season, but they probably should be.

1877
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 4: You know, their best win.

1878
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 3: Was against LSU, and that win gets probably less impressive

1879
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 3: as the weeks go on. You know, the only other

1880
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 3: team that they beat that was ranked at the time

1881
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 3: that they played them was Duke. Duke is no longer

1882
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 3: ranked and just took their fourth loss of the season today.

1883
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if you have any thoughts

1884
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 3: on Florida State, Jase, but that one feels like the

1885
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 3: one to me. If they were to take a loss

1886
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 3: and all these teams ended with one loss, they feel

1887
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 3: like the team that could get squeezed out.

1888
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's very true. I mean, you look

1889
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 5: at it took over time to beat Clemson, and that's

1890
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 5: one where really could have gone either way. The Miami

1891
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 5: game was awfully tight. They've had a few other near

1892
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 5: misses as you mentioned, and the ACC I just don't

1893
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 5: think they're held in that high of a regard as

1894
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 5: a conference. I don't think they've been as strong as

1895
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 5: anticipated this year. Some of the bottom teams have been

1896
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 5: a little better, but I don't think they've been quite

1897
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 5: as deep up top as we have seen in years past.

1898
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 5: And I'm not sure Florida State has looked particularly impressive

1899
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 5: in some of these games either, at least not when

1900
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 5: you look around the country at other contenders. I think

1901
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 5: when you stack everything up, that's where, Yeah, I think

1902
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 5: Florida State's got to be undefeated or they're probably gonna

1903
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 5: get edged out.

1904
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 4: Probably, you know, get edged out specifically you know, and

1905
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 4: I think it even comes to a conversation of like,

1906
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 4: let's be honest, like like let's say Georgia loses the

1907
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 4: SEC championship game to Alabama, Like George is gonna have

1908
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 4: a better resume than Florida State. It's just whether they

1909
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 4: would value that, you know, that.

1910
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 3: Conference championship or not so interesting setup in college football,

1911
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 3: And to Jason and I's point, I think it's much

1912
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 3: deeper at the top this year than it has been

1913
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 3: in years past. By the way, if you missed any

1914
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 3: of our conversation on Penn State, Michigan, on Georgia's dominant

1915
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 3: win whatever, we talked a lot about those games in

1916
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 3: hour one, make sure to go back and download the podcast.

1917
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Speaker 3: Week eleven of college football is largely in the books.

1923
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 3: Will keep you updated on that one final game, but

1924
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 3: it's time to transition to Week ten in the NFL,

1925
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 3: where we have four mar quy games and we're gonna

1926
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: discuss them on.

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Speaker 4: Next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 4: Eric Torisa Smart.

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Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live from the tire Rack dot Com studios,

1930
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Speaker 3: taking you up until two am Eastern Time. Bernie Fraddo

1931
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Speaker 3: of The Bernie Fraddo Show follows us. Love Bernie Fratto.

1932
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Speaker 3: I will also be on as a college hoops guest tonight.

1933
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Speaker 3: Bernie wants to preview the season ahead. Looking forward to

1934
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Speaker 3: talking to him little under an hour from now, Jason,

1935
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 3: as we do every time. By the way, another score

1936
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: for Oregon in the game against US either now up

1937
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 3: thirty six to fourteen in that one. Will keep you

1938
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 3: updated if there's anything to update, but Jason around this

1939
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 3: time every Sunday morning or late Saturday, depending on where

1940
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Speaker 3: you are. I would like to dive into this weekend's

1941
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 3: NFL slates, So let's get into it. Week ten slate,

1942
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: a lot of really good games. Producer, Pat, what game

1943
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 3: are we previewing?

1944
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 5: First?

1945
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Speaker 9: So, boys, you are previewing San Francisco forty nine ers

1946
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 9: going up against the Jacksonville Jaguars and guys. Interesting factoid

1947
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 9: here the first overall pick going against mister irrelevant pick.

1948
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Speaker 9: I don't think that's ever been done like ever, and

1949
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 9: if it has, like maybe it's a true rarity. But boys,

1950
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 9: we got the Niners away going to the Jags in Jacksonville.

1951
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 9: Here the line right here, San Francisco on the road,

1952
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 9: favored by three points. Aaron, give me the business?

1953
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 2: What is it?

1954
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll give you the business? Pat, don't you worry

1955
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 4: about that?

1956
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 3: First of all, let me say this, Jason, I you

1957
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 3: know I want to give I don't think people realize,

1958
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 3: like what Jacksonville went through the last month, Jason, two

1959
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 3: games in in London, then they fly back and have

1960
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 3: to then play.

1961
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Speaker 4: Hold on, I want to make sure I have this

1962
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 4: right here. This was a moment, Okay, I ruined it.

1963
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So two games in London, fly back, play game

1964
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 3: in Jacksonville, then a Thursday night in New Orleans, and

1965
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 3: then a following game against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh.

1966
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 3: And they went five to zer in those games. Jason,

1967
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 3: So four games overall away from Jacksonville and they won

1968
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 3: them all. And so when I look at this game, listen,

1969
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 3: San Francisco, Fortines, I'm still a Rock Party believer, but

1970
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: this thing is trending in the wrong direction. He gets

1971
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel back. It's hard to bet against the Jags though,

1972
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 3: five straight wins coming into this one.

1973
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 4: They be in some good teams. I'll take Jacksonville at home.

1974
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've won five in a row. Like you mentioned,

1975
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 5: this is a tough trip for San Francisco to make

1976
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 5: going all the way across the country, and they're playing

1977
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 5: in the early window as well, which sometimes really can

1978
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 5: affect a team going west to east like that. Niners

1979
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 5: need this one. They've been banged up. Trent Williams. I

1980
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna play at least you Like you said,

1981
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 5: Deebo is gonna be back. Brock Party needs something good

1982
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 5: to happen right now. You have a lot of people

1983
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 5: basically trying to bury him in terms of his future.

1984
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 5: I think that's very premature. But this is clearly a

1985
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 5: game that they need. I think they're the better football team.

1986
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 5: Jacksonville's the hotter football team, and they're at home, So

1987
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 5: what gives. I'm gonna say the Niners win this thing.

1988
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna I think they're gonna find a

1989
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 5: way to get pressure on Trevor Lawrence defensively up front.

1990
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 5: That might be the difference here and there, but probably

1991
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 5: a tight game and a good.

1992
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 4: One real quick.

1993
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 3: So you don't think that brock Perty's jobs should be

1994
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 3: in jeopardy with a four straight loss on Saturday.

1995
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 5: No, I really don't, because I just think there are

1996
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 5: a lot of other factors, and I don't think Perdy's

1997
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 5: played terribly in all of these games. I think he's

1998
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 5: had a turnover here and there that haven't been particularly good.

1999
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 5: He doesn't need something good to happen, there's no question

2000
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 5: about that. But I'm just I'm reticent to throw dirt

2001
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 5: on brock Party because of a rough stretch, because that

2002
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 5: can happen to anybody.

2003
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 4: All Right, Pat, what's the next game we got?

2004
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 9: So next one we guy is we have an AFC

2005
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 9: fight with the Houston Texans going to Cincinnati to play

2006
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 9: the Bengals in Joe Burr. Joe Burrow, by the way,

2007
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 9: just had thrown a little ice there, because you know

2008
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow, he's been cold, he's been ice cold, and

2009
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 9: he's a killer right now.

2010
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, got the ice with him.

2011
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 9: Anyways, Cincinnati is favored six and a half points even

2012
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 9: though Houston's been putting up a lot of numbers with C. J.

2013
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: Stroud, let's go with Jason. What do we feeling today?

2014
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean Stroud in that game he

2015
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 5: played last week was incredible. He looks like he's gonna

2016
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 5: walk to the Rookie of the Year. I mean, there's

2017
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 5: been some other good performance, but he's just he's been

2018
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 5: incredible and and Damiico Ryans will be in the running

2019
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 5: for Coach of the Year. The the Texans may actually

2020
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 5: push the Jags a little bit potentially inside the division.

2021
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 5: This is a tough ass. Though Cincinnati feels like they

2022
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 5: are really fully formed. Again, Burrow looks outstanding, he's healthy.

2023
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 5: The performance on Sunday night certainly added to that. But

2024
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 5: they just look the part look good, The defense looks good.

2025
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 5: This one is where I think the text the Texans

2026
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 5: are stepping in the right direction, and I don't see

2027
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 5: any reason why they're gonna fall off. But I think

2028
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 5: this is the measuring stick and this is where you realize, no,

2029
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 5: they've still got a ways to go. I am fascinated

2030
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 5: to watch this game, but give me Cincinnati all the way.

2031
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything he said, I agree with, You know, C

2032
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 3: j Stroud has exceeded any expectations that I had. I

2033
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 3: was a bryce young guy going into the draft. You know,

2034
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 3: not only incredible, but obviously very clutch last week with

2035
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 3: the late scoring drive, five touchdowns overall, So he's playing

2036
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 3: out of his mind. But the Bengals are hitting that

2037
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 3: midseason stride and this has become a little bit of

2038
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 3: a thing for them. Joe Burrow a couple of years

2039
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 3: in a row, kind of banged up going into or

2040
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 3: coming out of fall camp. Excuse me, it takes a

2041
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 3: little while to get going. But you know, listen, it's

2042
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: kind of interesting. Like everyone's talking about the you know,

2043
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 3: the Jags, they've won five in a row. They're playing

2044
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 3: so good. The Bengals quietly won four in a row. Now,

2045
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 3: admittedly the first couple you know, eras own Okay, Seattle,

2046
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 3: that's a nice win at home. I don't think it

2047
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: was really until San Francisco when people said, Okay, this

2048
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 3: team has really turned a corner. And admittedly, you know,

2049
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 3: I kind of think that that the game last Sunday

2050
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 3: really to me showed to me without a doubt that

2051
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 3: they have turned a corner as well. I said, I

2052
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 3: said it earlier in the show. That game wasn't that close.

2053
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't that competitive, and part of it's on Buffalo.

2054
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 3: But you know, Cincinnati was up twenty four to to

2055
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 3: ten basically late in the mid to late fourth quarter,

2056
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 3: and so I just bring it up because it was

2057
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 3: not as competitive as a six point final score would indicate.

2058
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 3: Cincinnati to me has turned a corner and I like

2059
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 3: them to win. Jason, tell you.

2060
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 5: One thing I was One thing I will say real

2061
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 5: fast before we get to disagre is no t Higgins

2062
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 5: in the game. They're not sure about Jamar Chase. That

2063
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 5: is a big deal. If they are missing both of

2064
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 5: those two guys, that makes this more inch. But I

2065
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 5: still think they found a way to win.

2066
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 3: Don't disagree Cincinnati or excuse me. Houston is definitely making

2067
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 3: major strides, but I don't think they're quite there yet.

2068
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 4: Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back.

2069
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 3: We'll preview some other Marquee games from week eleven, really

2070
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 3: fun slate. You know, there's not a ton of huge games,

2071
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 3: but there's a couple more that we definitely need to

2072
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 3: get to. We're gonna go ahead and do that next

2073
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 3: Before we do though final time, this evening let's go ahead,

2074
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 3: toss it over the news desk Steve de Sager.

2075
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 8: What is trending as far as the Bengals to Higgins

2076
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 8: was hurt in practice this week, so he's out against

2077
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 8: Houston with a hamstring injury. Jamar Chase listed as questionable

2078
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 8: with the bruise back for the Texans. They placed their

2079
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 8: kicker on ir today, kam A Fairbairn with a quad injury.

2080
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 8: Houston did activate defensive back Derek Stingley out for the Texans,

2081
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 8: wide receiver Nico Collins, running back Damian Pierce. Lions are

2082
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 8: gonna be at the Chargers Sunday. Lions running back David

2083
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 8: Montgomery practice fully all week after a rib injury. Jacksonville

2084
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 8: wide receiver Za Jones, with a knee injury is out

2085
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 8: against the forty nine ers. And by the way, there

2086
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 8: has been a mister irrelevant against a number one overall

2087
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 8: because Brock Purty played Matthew Stafford.

2088
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: I I really end the season.

2089
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I had assumed that he had

2090
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 3: faced a number one at some point this year.

2091
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, year and a half.

2092
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 8: Apparently they had not faced each other prior to this year.

2093
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 8: But yes, it's happened. Bill's wide receiver Stefan Diggs will

2094
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 8: play Monday night against the Broncos. He was limited in

2095
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,839
Speaker 8: practice the last two days with a back problem. Vikings

2096
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 8: wide receiver Justin Jefferson will miss another game tomorrow, still

2097
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 8: on injury reserve. Arizona running back James Connor was activated

2098
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 8: off ir as for the college football in Progress twelve

2099
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 8: and a half minutes to go on Fox TV at

2100
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 8: sixth ranked Oregon, it's the Ducks leading thirty six fourteen

2101
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 8: over USC, which is driving and now in the red zone.

2102
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 8: USC could be falling to five and three in conference play. Meanwhile,

2103
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,799
Speaker 8: another late game has under a minute to go Iowa States.

2104
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 8: It's been a blowout leave for them the whole night

2105
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 8: at BYU Cyclones forty five thirteen late in the game

2106
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 8: at the Mountain West Conference. Fresno State is eight and

2107
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 8: one this season, but losing thirty five ten at San

2108
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 8: Jose State early fourth quarter. Air Force is eight and

2109
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 8: one but losing at Hawaii twenty seven thirteen in the

2110
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 8: fourth quarter, and earlier San Diego State lost again even

2111
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 8: at Colorado State. They lost twenty two to nineteen. San

2112
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 8: Diego State one and five in conference play by the way.

2113
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 8: Cincinnati had been zero to six in the Big Twelve,

2114
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 8: but did get a win at Houston. You mentioned the

2115
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 8: ACC earlier. Clemson was two to four in league play

2116
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 8: but beat Georgia Tech. Today Syracuse overpit They're each one

2117
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 8: and five in the ACC. Memphis won in overtime at Charlotte.

2118
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 8: Memphis is eight and two overall. Tonight, there was a

2119
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 8: double overtime game at number twenty four North Carolina. The

2120
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 8: tar Heels went six for six on field goals and

2121
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 8: beat rival Duke forty seven to forty five. In the

2122
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,839
Speaker 8: fourth quarter. There were thirty nine total points. North Carolina

2123
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 8: hit the tying forty three yard field goal on the

2124
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 8: last play of regulation. Number twenty one Arizona with a

2125
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 8: short field goal on the final play one at Colorado

2126
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 8: thirty four to thirty one. Colorado is one in six

2127
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 8: in the Pac twelve. Last year it went one to eight.

2128
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 8: Number twenty two Iowa led six nothing over Rutgers to

2129
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 8: start the fourth quarter twenty two nothing the final. Rutgers

2130
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 8: only seven first downs today and nine punts. Tulane over

2131
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 8: Tulsa twenty four to twenty two. Guys I mentioned on

2132
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 8: the show last weekend, we'll find out Tuesday if the

2133
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 8: Playoff Committee actually watches all the games, because Tulane last

2134
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 8: week only won thirteen to ten and at East Carolina

2135
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,520
Speaker 8: team that was one in eight, and sure enough, Tulane

2136
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 8: went up one in the poll, up to number twenty

2137
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 8: three according to the committee rankings. And here in this game,

2138
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 8: twenty four to twenty two to the final against a

2139
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 8: Tulsa club that's lost five in a row, that missed

2140
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 8: a two point pass with about three minutes left that

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Speaker 8: would have tied the game. Why is this notable that

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Speaker 8: Tulane is ranked at all or this highly. They're not

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Speaker 8: going to be in the top four at the end

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Speaker 8: of the season because for the past decade or so,

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Speaker 8: a spot in one of the new Year's six bowl

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Speaker 8: games is reserved for whoever is the highest ranked group

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Speaker 8: of five Conference champion. James Madison is not eligible this

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Speaker 8: year for a bowl. Maybe it'll be two lane Texas

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Speaker 8: ranked seventh one at TCU twenty nine twenty six tc

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Speaker 8: for two touchdowns in the last six minutes to make

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Speaker 8: it close. Central Florida at home beat up number fifteen

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Speaker 8: Oklahoma State forty five to three Cowboys with four turnovers

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Speaker 8: and Ali Gordon of Oklahoma State, who had twelve hundred

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01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 8: yards rushing this year twelve carries twenty five yards today.

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Speaker 8: Here they'd beaten rival Oklahoma. Oklahoma State had won five

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Speaker 8: straight and got killed on the road today Texas Tech

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Speaker 8: with a field goal in the final seconds. One at

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Speaker 8: number sixteen Kansas sixteen to thirteen. Each team four and

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Speaker 8: three in conference play. Oklahoma over West Virginia fifty nine

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Speaker 8: twenty Dylan Gabriel eight total touchdowns. LSU beat Florida fifty

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Speaker 8: two to thirty five. Jayden Daniels over six hundred total

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Speaker 8: yards and five tds now to the top five. Number

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Speaker 8: one Ohio State beat up Michigan State tonight thirty eight three.

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Speaker 8: Michigan States lost seven of eight. Marvin Harrison Junior scored

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Speaker 8: the first three touchdowns. He wound up with seven catches

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Speaker 8: one hundred and forty nine yards. Number two Georgia has

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Speaker 8: won twenty seven games in a row. It clinched the

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Speaker 8: SEC East, beating Old Miss, which was ranked ninth, fifty

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Speaker 8: two to seventeen. Georgia with three hundred yards rushing and

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Speaker 8: over three hundred yards passing. Tight end brock Bauers returned

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Speaker 8: and had a touchdown reception. Georgia scored touchdowns on their

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Speaker 8: first four drives. Number three Michigan won at Penn State

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Speaker 8: twenty four to fifteen. Blake Corum one hundred and forty

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Speaker 8: five yards rushing two tds. Number four Florida State beat

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Speaker 8: Miami twenty seven to twenty. Seminoles have won sixteenth straight.

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Speaker 8: They finished eight to zero and the ACC for the year,

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Speaker 8: Hurricanes two to four in that conference, and number five

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Speaker 8: Washington defeated Utah thirty five twenty eight, shutting out the

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Speaker 8: youths in the second half. Among the NBA games, Cleveland

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01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 8: won at Golden State Portland. Rookie guard Scoot Henderson will

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Speaker 8: miss another two to three weeks with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia guard Kelly Ubre, averaging sixteen points a game, is

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Speaker 8: out of the hospital tonight after being hit by a

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Speaker 8: car while he was walking. Ubre will reportedly miss significant time.

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Speaker 8: NHL Edmonton with a rare win. Philadelphia beat the LA Kings,

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Speaker 8: And we do have plenty of NFL football and it

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01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,759
Speaker 8: starts early. Don't forget. We've got a Germany game tomorrow

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Speaker 8: with the Colts against two and seven New England.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you, very much, Steve Sagre to Saga,

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Speaker 3: have a great evening. We will be back with you

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01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 3: next week. Of course, to Sega will be back tomorrow

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Speaker 3: with Willard and Kyle Rudolph as well as Arnie Spaniard

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01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 3: and Chris playing Arney Spaniard must be insufferable right now

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01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 3: with the way Arizona Football is playing Saga.

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Speaker 8: God, he doesn't want to play some drag team what

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01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 8: like top twenty Kansas was one of the suggestions that

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Speaker 8: Met be a bull opponent oponent because he was so

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Speaker 8: sick when they had to play Who Boise stayed or

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Speaker 8: somewhere we want Bama?

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Speaker 3: Is that what Arri Spanier is spitting out on Sunday nights.

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Speaker 2: They barely went at Colorado today. But yeah, he's he's

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01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: a little out there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's very out there and he

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 3: will be very out there at eleven pm Eastern Time

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 3: tomorrow with Chris Plank and Sager. Let's put a bow

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Speaker 3: on the week Week ten preview. Excuse me of the NFL, Laurita,

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01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 3: give us a little music, put us in the mood, and Pat,

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01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 3: what is our next game?

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Speaker 9: Our next game is the AFC North face off. We

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01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 9: got the Cleveland Browns being at five and three going

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 9: against the leader of the pack. Right now, the Baltimore

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01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 9: Ravens freshly beating and cutting down my Seattle Seahawks from

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01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 9: last week. Ravens or shocker, right, Ravens are yet again

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 9: home plays playing against the Browns and Baltimore just like

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01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 9: the last game we previewed, favored by six and a

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01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 9: half points being the home team. Aaron, what do you

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01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 9: think think the Ravens are going to do it again?

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01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 9: I don't know, ho you can't think the Ravens are

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01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 9: gonna do it again.

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Speaker 3: They're playing so well and listen, I get it right,

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01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 3: It just but but it just feels like you look at.

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01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:11,839
Speaker 4: You know, the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even a team like the Chargers feels like

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01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 3: they get talked about more. The Jaguars talked about more.

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01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: All Baltimore does is keep winning games. They destroyed pat

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01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks last week. Those Seahawks steak.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding, but come on now, now four

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01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 4: in a row.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked about the Bengals on a four

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01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: game win streak, the Jags on a five game win streak,

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01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 3: So four in a row for Baltimore five of six.

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Speaker 4: Overall, this team.

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Speaker 3: Really doesn't lose outside of the AFC and outside of

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Speaker 3: the division. I know the Browns have already played them once,

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: but I gotta pick Baltimore to win again.

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Speaker 5: So I agree with you, and they're the anti Dolphins

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01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 5: because when they play good teams, they win. The two

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01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 5: losses they have are to it eh Okay Steelers team

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01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 5: and an Indianapolis team by a field goal in a

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Speaker 5: very weird game with a couple of controversial calls late.

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Speaker 5: They beat Cincinnati. They destroyed the Seahawks and the Lions,

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01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 5: two of the three most effective performances I've seen all

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01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 5: year in the league. They're a great football team, and

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01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 5: these are maybe the two best defenses in the league

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 5: matching up against one another. But the offense is I

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 5: think you favor the MVP candidate here. It's probably him

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01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 5: and Hurts right now are probably the two in the lead.

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01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. In that offense and the way that they

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01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 5: are starting to roll and the freedom that they're playing with,

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Speaker 5: this is gonna be a probably a dog fight. But

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Speaker 5: I like Baltimore because I think their offense has even

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01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 5: though even though I think that Baltimore's defense might be better

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01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 5: overall than the Browns. I think that's a toss up.

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01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 5: The offenses are not. I like Baltimore. They might be

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Speaker 5: the best team in football right now.

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Speaker 9: All right, guys, it's the final one of the day

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01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 9: we have. That is Delroy Lions coming down to LA

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01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 9: locally out here to play against the Los Angeles Chargers.

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01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,919
Speaker 9: Chargers are home, and guys, I'm not gonna lie to you, Detroit,

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01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 9: while being on the road into West Coast, is actually

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Speaker 9: the favorite to win. They're favored by three points. Jason Kapasov,

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01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 9: what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, first off, do the Chargers ever play a home game?

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Speaker 4: I mean, who, let's be real here. You're correct, Yeah,

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01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 4: Chris Purfett is gonna be leading the Lions charge tomorrow afternoon.

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01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, they're gonna be a lot of Lions fans there.

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01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 4: I would guess.

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01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 5: Lions lost the Seahawks, and they lost to the Ravens.

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01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 5: They've beaten everybody else. They do play a lot better

2270
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 5: at home than on the road. But again, it's not

2271
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 5: like this is gonna be a particularly hostile environment. I

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01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 5: like Detroit because I think this is a kind of

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01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 5: this is the kind of game a good team goes

2274
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 5: and wins, and I think they're a good team. I

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01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 5: think they're gonna win that division. Even with a couple

2276
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 5: of surging performances you've seen from Minnesota, I think they're

2277
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 5: gonna walk to that division ground. I think there's still

2278
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 5: one of the best teams in the NFC. I think

2279
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 5: they make a statement against the Chargers in this game,

2280
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 5: even though the Chargers are playing a little bit better recently.

2281
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I like Detroit.

2282
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 3: Forgive me for not being excited about a win over

2283
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 3: the Bears and a win over the Jets, which, frankly,

2284
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 3: the offense didn't even play that well. I mean they

2285
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 3: didn't have to necessarily, but I mean, you know, under

2286
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 3: two hundred yards of total offense for the Chargers, a

2287
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:28,879
Speaker 3: special team score, whatever.

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01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 4: Plus it's a short week. You know, you're playing in

2289
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: New York.

2290
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 3: You probably don't hop on a flight until after midnight

2291
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 3: Eastern time. You fly back Land sometime five, six seven

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01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 3: am Tuesday morning.

2293
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 4: Got to come right back to the facility and get

2294
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 4: ready for this one.

2295
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 3: So go ahead and give me Detroit to get the

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01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,520
Speaker 3: win in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Lorena, thank you for the music. Pat thank you for

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01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 4: your help.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, We're gonna wrap the show with

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Speaker 3: quite possibly the audio of the year.

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Speaker 4: You will not want to miss this. That's next, porch.

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Speaker 10: Are you to win on the road in this environment

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01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 10: when there were doubts?

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01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 5: Sure? What does it mean to you?

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01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 5: I thank the Lord.

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Speaker 1: You man.

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01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:25,839
Speaker 4: But there's university. The president ad we got the best players, university,

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01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 4: best alumni.

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Speaker 5: In the country. You got me.

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Speaker 4: Right here, man, These guys did it.

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01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 5: These guys, man, man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Coach.

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Speaker 3: That was Michigan interim head coach your own more as

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01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 3: Michigan beats Penn State live on Fox TV. And that

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Speaker 3: Michigan gets the biggest win of their season. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens there, Jason, I'll tell you this. We got

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01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 3: some even better sound last night Mavericks Clippers pregame. It's

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a long piece of audio. But

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Speaker 3: I want you to listen to what Brian Demarris of

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Speaker 3: Bally Southwest had to say about James Harden Larena hit

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Speaker 3: it as.

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Speaker 10: The producer to pipe this into the Clippers locker room.

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Speaker 10: If I can talk to you, James, I hope you're

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01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 10: taking notes. I'm telling you in advance. You're welcome for

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Speaker 10: the wisdom I'm about to spew. Because listen, I get

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01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 10: on my knees every night and pray for someone to

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01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 10: believe in me, like Darryl Bery believe in you. You

2334
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 10: wanted a certain coach. They brought in Mike D'Antoni. You

2335
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 10: want to play a certain style, they played it. You

2336
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 10: wanted Dwight Howard. They brought him in and got rid

2337
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 10: of him when you were tired of him. You want

2338
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 10: it Chris Paul. They brought him in and got rid

2339
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 10: of him when you were tired of him. They brought

2340
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 10: in your old friend, Russell Westbrook. You want to go

2341
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 10: to Vegas on off days. They looked away. You wanted

2342
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 10: the team to stay over so you could go out

2343
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 10: at night. They changed the schedule and it didn't. And

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01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 10: you know what you said, I'm gonna break up with

2345
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 10: my Woodie. Not good enough. I see the bride Lights

2346
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 10: in New York. I want to go there, by old

2347
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 10: pal Kevin Durant. It's gonna work. The Big three and

2348
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 10: all after one year you wanted out. You realized, oh

2349
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 10: my gosh, I took this guy for granted, the guy

2350
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 10: that believed in me. I went back with Daryl Morey.

2351
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 10: They traded Ben Simmons for you. How did they pull

2352
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 10: that off? And you know what, You went there and

2353
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 10: you got a partner who.

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Speaker 2: Got the MVP.

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Speaker 10: He won the MVP. And what did you say afterwards?

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01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 10: You said, they didn't hand me the reins. You're the

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01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 10: point guard. You were holding the reins. And what did

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01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 10: you do when you had the rains? You scored nine

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Speaker 10: points in Game seven against Boston. You blew a three

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01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 10: two series lead, so they fired their coach. Not good enough.

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Speaker 10: You broke up with the guy believing you again. You said,

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01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 10: the bride Lights of LA that's where I want to go.

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 10: Let's see if that works. Listen, James, have you ever

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01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 10: had those friends who had bad roommates Over and over

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01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 10: they complained about their bad roommates. This guy's terrible, the

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01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 10: bad roommate here. They never thought the big self. Awaren

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01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 10: of they're the bad roommate. They're the problem. Hey, James,

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 10: you're the problem. If this doesn't work this year in

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 10: this system, with this team, then you're gonna go and

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01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 10: point fingers at everybody else and you're gonna go back

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 10: home and you're gonna start swiping right for another team

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01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 10: and there's not gonna be anybody left because James, you're.

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Speaker 4: Not the Beard, You're not the system. You're the problem.

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01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh oh in the Mike drops evon that was Did

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Speaker 3: you know Brian Demeris of Bally Southwest before that? That

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01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 3: is some incredible audio, Jason, I heard it earlier. You

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01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 3: have not heard it. Tell me what you think of

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01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 3: your boy, Brian Demeris after he just obliterated James Harden

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Speaker 3: on the pregame show yesterday MAVs Clippers.

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Speaker 5: That's your play of the day, Uh, brought to you by.

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01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 4: No Freedo's Spicy Hot. That was spicy hot.

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01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 9: I.

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01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 5: Mean, and it was cathartic to listen to. First off,

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01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 5: I did not know that the schedule was changed in

2385
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 5: Houston because he wanted to stay over and party or

2386
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 5: whatever was he wanted to do on the road. So

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01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:16,839
Speaker 5: they would stay late for him. This was someone who

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01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 5: knew everything that was going on behind the scenes with

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01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 5: the organization because obviously, ok, he's information and oh he's

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01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 5: not protecting it here. And we'll bet that there are

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01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 5: a lot of other people that heard that and said, yeah,

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01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 5: it's about dak on time, and two of them happened

2393
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 5: to host this show because we've said this forever about

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 5: James Harden. It's not going to work with the Clippers.

2395
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 5: I hate to tell Ben Mallor and whoever else are

2396
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 5: Clippers fans out there right now, it's not going to work.

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01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 5: It doesn't work anywhere. And that roommate's analogy was beautiful

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01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 5: and was exactly right that eventually you start to realize

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01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 5: there's one common denominator in all of these situations, and

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 5: it is him. It's not the other guy, it's him.

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01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 5: And uh, at what point do people realize that he's

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01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 5: not a championship player. You're not going to win a

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01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 5: title with him. It's just not in his DNA to

2404
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 5: do that. It's in his DNA to magnify himself at

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01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 5: your expense.

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Speaker 3: It was it was unbelievable audio, and uh, you know,

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01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 3: Brian de Merris by the way, was a little bit

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01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 3: of a a little bit of a you know, uh

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01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 3: suessare if you will, because the the that was before

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Speaker 3: the game. The Clippers end up losing, by the way.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the NBA in season games for

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01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 3: those scoring at home. But Clippers lose to the MAVs.

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Speaker 3: Clippers now zero and three with James Harden, and I'll wrap.

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Speaker 3: I've been critical of James Harden. Everything that he said

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01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 3: is largely what I've been saying for years. But what

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01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 3: I would say bluntly, uh, I think. I think this

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01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 3: is James Harden's last chance. I mean, I don't It's

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01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 3: not going to work in LA and I don't think

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01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 3: there's a single team in the NBA that is going

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Speaker 3: to want him after this year.

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Speaker 4: But tell you what, Jason, we got to get out

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Speaker 4: of here.

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Speaker 3: I want to thank the crew, Loraina on the Board,

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Speaker 3: producer Pat Steve Desager, from my partner Jason Martin, I'm

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02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 3: Aaron Torres. Make sure to download the podcast covered a

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02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 3: lot of ground, a lot of college football. Download that

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Speaker 3: podcast and also stay tuned because Bernie Frado of The

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Speaker 3: Bernie Fradder Show is next Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Areio