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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us. I am Clay Travis, he is Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: We are rolling with the Clay Travison Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: on a great Wednesday in July, as the battle lines

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Speaker 1: are beginning to form the new Mask Mandate, as it

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Speaker 1: is rolling out in some ways across the country, all

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Speaker 1: of the conflict coming to a head, I believe, and

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Speaker 1: the conflict may be the most pronounced in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida, where Ronda Santis has effectively laid the gauntlet

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Speaker 1: down and said Florida will not be acquiescing to Mask

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Speaker 1: mandates or any other restrictions on his state while he

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Speaker 1: is governor down there, given all of the time that

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Speaker 1: he has spent branding the state of Florida as an

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Speaker 1: oasis of freedom, and I want to play for you,

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Speaker 1: De Santis. This is last week De Santis standing up

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Speaker 1: against the idea of all of these restrictions which are

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Speaker 1: coming down on all of us. Let's listen. If anyone

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Speaker 1: is calling for lockdowns, You're not getting that done in Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to protect people's livelihoods. I'm going to protect

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Speaker 1: kids right to go to school. I'm going to protect

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Speaker 1: people's right to run their small businesses. We have a

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Speaker 1: situation where we have three vaccines that have been widely

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Speaker 1: available for months and months now, and people need to

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Speaker 1: make decisions what's best for them. But to have the

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Speaker 1: government come in and lock anyone down or restrict anybody

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Speaker 1: is totally unacceptable. And it's easy for some physician to

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Speaker 1: advocate that because it doesn't affect them. It does affect

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Speaker 1: the people in this state. So we're going to lift

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Speaker 1: people up, We're not locking people down, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to make sure that folks are able to exercise their

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Speaker 1: decision making that what's best for them. And I think

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Speaker 1: millions of Floridians have obviously done that for the last

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Speaker 1: year and a half, and so we want to continue

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Speaker 1: to support their effort. So but the question here, and

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Speaker 1: I do think DeSantis is maybe going to lead the

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Speaker 1: Republican opposition at this point to the overreach that we're

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Speaker 1: going to see from the Biden administration, from the Fauciites,

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Speaker 1: from the CDC, and all of these different places that,

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Speaker 1: as we have been telling you, as we move into

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Speaker 1: the fall, the draconian restrictions are going to become more

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Speaker 1: and more apparent on a day to day basis. So

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Speaker 1: the question that I think many of our listeners have,

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Speaker 1: and certainly you and I have debated, both on and

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Speaker 1: off air, how do we respond, what is appropriate, what

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Speaker 1: is potentially effective? And there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: associated with that as well. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: panic spasm. I think that it's probably not going to

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Speaker 1: last more than a few weeks. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that we should do We've done in the past, where

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Speaker 1: we concede, where we go along, we say, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: just two weeks, Clay, right, Look we're just two weeks,

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Speaker 1: got us this time around. It's remarkable when you look

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Speaker 1: at the way this is being covered by Look, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, lockdowns and Democrats go hand in hand. That

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Speaker 1: that's what's happened here. This just become an almost entirely

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Speaker 1: politically affiliated, politically tribal issue for people. You know what

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Speaker 1: someone's going to think, by and large, based upon their

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be about this, but it is when you

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers. And I did some of this

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Speaker 1: deep diving last night on the New York Times website.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Clay, we go, we go rooting around in

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Speaker 1: the bowels of the New York Times website so that

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Speaker 1: our folks today don't have to spend their time sullying

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Speaker 1: themselves and their eyes with what they're doing over there

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Speaker 1: at the COMI Central. But the reality is, you look

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Speaker 1: at cities like New York, Los Angeles, just take those

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Speaker 1: People might think right now, oh my gosh, we're in

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Speaker 1: the midst of a surge. Mask mandates have to come back.

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Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, they already have. In New York, they

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Speaker 1: haven't made it official. They've made more of a vaccine

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Speaker 1: push than a mask push. But Clay, there's a few

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Speaker 1: hundred people I mean, like two to three hundred people

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Speaker 1: for COVID in New York, in Los Angeles. This is

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Speaker 1: not this is not a moment that should be inducing

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Speaker 1: panic in people. But I really think the brains of

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Speaker 1: such a way that it's not really possible for them

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Speaker 1: should all be wearing helmets when they get into a

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Speaker 1: rest of us can see. It's interesting you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: And certainly large percentage of the United States population have

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Speaker 1: failed this mantra. And if we are correct, buck and

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Speaker 1: the data reflects, frankly, that we're months ahead of where

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Speaker 1: everybody else is going to be, and that COVID is

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Speaker 1: basically going to become a chronic endemic, seasonal attribute unfortunately

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Speaker 1: that rises every fall. We have to at some point

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Speaker 1: recognize that and stop treating COVID like it is a

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Speaker 1: disease that is unprecedented in the history of mankind, right,

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Speaker 1: And I just don't know what is that pivot point,

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Speaker 1: because I think Democrats bought into the idea that the

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Speaker 1: that it was going to cure everything, and frankly, that's

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Speaker 1: partly what Joe Biden sold to everybody, and it just

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Speaker 1: hasn't taken. And you and I both know that if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump were still the president, there would be so

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Speaker 1: much more willingness among the Democrat aligne media to question

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Speaker 1: reaction system. Right, you'd be seeing people talking about this

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Speaker 1: and saying, we're just asking questions. But it has become

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Speaker 1: at this point there's something else that everyone needs to know,

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Speaker 1: which is that the people that have been pushing this

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Speaker 1: Now they've had to now we've all seen that they

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Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Right, They've never said this is

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Speaker 1: just a judgment call, because if they say it's a

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Speaker 1: judgment call, we can fight back. It's the science clay.

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Speaker 1: They've been doing this all along. I mean, the real

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Speaker 1: It's that this cloud of authoritarianism has been obvious all along,

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Speaker 1: from the very beginning. And that's what I thinks. This

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Speaker 1: is what the White House tweeted buck on May the thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: White House Twitter account. Big news from the CDC. If

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Speaker 1: you're fully vaccinated, you do not need to wear a

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Speaker 1: mask indoors or outdoors in most settings. We've gotten this far,

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Speaker 1: whether you choose to get vaccinated or wear a mask,

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Speaker 1: please protect yourself. Until we get to the finish line,

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Speaker 1: and the headline is all caps from the White House.

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Speaker 1: Fully vaccinated people can stop wearing masks. And now they

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Speaker 1: remove all the misinformation about mask wearing that they shared

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Speaker 1: as recently as two months ago. From the CDC, there's

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Speaker 1: been a total lack of humility from the lockdowners, the Fauciites,

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Speaker 1: an interesting piece actually in Slate, which is a far

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty left wing, where they were saying, is

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Speaker 1: there such a thing as a noble lie when it

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Speaker 1: comes to public health policy? And I saw them finally

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Speaker 1: admit what I've been saying, And I know, I know

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Speaker 1: you feel this way too. When we were willing to

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Speaker 1: Fauci lied about masks because it was for our own good,

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Speaker 1: In fact, what we found out was that a lot

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Speaker 1: make everybody feel better, not stay healthier, but emotionally psychologically

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Speaker 1: feel better. It became their little blankie, their little safety blanket. No,

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Speaker 1: it's a underd percent right, And we're fortunate that we

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Speaker 1: least don't work in a substantial enough way to be

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Speaker 1: this absolute crazy mandate that we are seeing. And three,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we're seeing. We'll come back into this

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Speaker 1: Little lab coat tyrant not letting him get off easy

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Speaker 1: to promise you that, but you know, if we could

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Speaker 1: like they're doing something worthwhile. They're smart, they're virtuous, they're

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Speaker 1: good people, and it costs them nothing. It costs society

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Speaker 1: a whole lot. It costs people that don't want to

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Speaker 1: live in that fear a whole lot. But they're happy

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Speaker 1: to sit on the couch, order in delivery and watch

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Speaker 1: Netflix while they can do their remote and tweet it

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Speaker 1: you and me about how we don't care if old

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Speaker 1: people die. I mean, that's basically the way this shakes out.

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Speaker 1: It's become very tribal and even the focus on quote

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Speaker 1: unquote Trump voters is misaligned. As you just mentioned. When

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Speaker 1: you look at the data. The reason why Red states,

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Speaker 1: which is where I live in the state of Tennessee

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Speaker 1: why many southern states, the SEC footprints, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: has a more significant number of people who are choosing

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Speaker 1: to be unvaccinated is not exclusively certainly because of Trump voters.

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Speaker 1: It's because we have a large black population, So you

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Speaker 1: are combining a large black population most states in the

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Speaker 1: South have a much larger black population than the average

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Speaker 1: of the rest of the country, with a large number

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Speaker 1: of Trump voters as well, and the combination of those

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Speaker 1: two groups is leading to large numbers of unvaccinated people.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of those people, remember, have already had COVID,

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Speaker 1: which is important. And second, we never hear about Biden

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Speaker 1: voters who are choosing not to be vaccinated, even though

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Speaker 1: the black population and supported Joe Biden ninety two to

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Speaker 1: eight or whatever it ended up being in the final tally,

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Speaker 1: and statistically, as the data shows, they are the most

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Speaker 1: likely to be unvaccinated, and no one ever discusses it,

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Speaker 1: no one ever brings it up, and no it also

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Speaker 1: tells us what does the end really look like? Here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, when do we finally get to say we're done?

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Speaker 1: You know, we've gone through this with Afghanistan and the

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Speaker 1: draw down there and finally after twenty years. The answer

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Speaker 1: to the question what does victory look like? Have been

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Speaker 1: asked so many times with unsatisfactory answer or really with

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Speaker 1: effectively no answer other than just keep doing this, keep

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Speaker 1: doing this, keep doing what we're doing. It's a similar

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Speaker 1: dynamic playing out now with the Lockdowners, where you just

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Speaker 1: they say, we'll keep going with this for as long

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Speaker 1: as we have to, and we'll keep you know, raising

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Speaker 1: up the mitigation measures. We'll get ready to do over

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Speaker 1: the winter. This is something that they've become accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: They like. I mean, one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: find most remarkable is that there'll be people claim I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I was walking around today in New York City,

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Speaker 1: in Midtown, which is where I live and where where

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Speaker 1: our New York studio is, and there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people massed up. I mean, it's definitely already now

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Speaker 1: that you could say they're doing it by choice. What

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Speaker 1: I find so fascinating is that whenever I try to

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Speaker 1: say no mandates, the pushback is often what's the big deal?

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Speaker 1: As if any normal human being could say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I really want to walk around and breathe uncomfortably all day,

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Speaker 1: that's not a big for no reason, for no reason,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really does remind me. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: the Middle Ages, medieval period, people would wear as a

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Speaker 1: show of their piety a hair shirt, right, people who

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Speaker 1: itch and sometimes even cause them to bleed. For some people,

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Speaker 1: to mask is like a hair shirt. Now it's looking

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Speaker 1: how dedicated I am de Fauci and science. Oh and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about their science dedication in a little

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Speaker 1: bit when we discuss they don't believe that there's such

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Speaker 1: a thing as men and women or It's a great discussion.

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Speaker 1: But I think the question you asked is a wildly

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Speaker 1: important one. How does it end? Because I think for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, when the White House came out

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Speaker 1: on May thirteenth and said you no longer have to

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Speaker 1: wear masks anywhere, that was at least a roadmap to

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Speaker 1: believing that normalcy was going to return. But if COVID

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Speaker 1: zero is the goal, or ninety five vaccination is the goal,

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Speaker 1: or whatever that number is, what is success? And how

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Speaker 1: do the goalposts keep getting moved so that we're never there?

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Speaker 1: It's a fascinating question. I'd love to hear Fauci say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's the answer for when this is over? For when

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Speaker 1: we'll never see you on television again. Just want to

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Speaker 1: run everybody. Coming up later on the show, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about the aftermath of Day one of

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Speaker 1: the Insurrection investigation, plus woke medical schools not allowing people

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Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, pregnant women. Oh, it's a

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Speaker 1: huge microaggression. We'll dive into that. And our friend Will

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Speaker 1: came from Fox News jointing to talk about Simone Biles

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Speaker 1: all the controversy around that and and the rest of it. Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think you were trending on Twitter at one point

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Speaker 1: with that one, so fired up, fired up, getting fired

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Speaker 1: up over that one. But you know, if we've learned

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Speaker 1: anything in the last eighteen months or so, it's that

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Speaker 1: Fortunately for us, we have enough people vaccinated that you're

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Speaker 1: not going to see a wave or a surge of

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Speaker 1: infections among the vaccinated. It will be a surge of

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Speaker 1: infections among the unvaccinated. It will be an outbreak among

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Speaker 1: the unvaccinated. People not getting vaccinated not only is a

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Speaker 1: bad thing for them, it could actually interfere in a

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Speaker 1: negative way with the rest of the country by generating

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Speaker 1: variants that would elude the vaccines. That's the thing we're

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Speaker 1: concerned about. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Bucks

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, where mister Travis and mister Sexton are not

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Speaker 1: taking the serge with all due seriousness, and the variance

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Speaker 1: when you add the parabolas on the data and you

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Speaker 1: do a nonlinear analysis of the droplets when it comes

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Speaker 1: all together with I mean, basically, at this point, if

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Speaker 1: you still listen to this guy, Clay, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: if anyone listens to this guy and takes him at

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Speaker 1: face value, it is an intelligence test that they are failing.

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Speaker 1: This guy is a disaster. He does whatever the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration wants him to do. He never upsets the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: He's always on the right side of the left. And

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Speaker 1: I've I've just I've had enough of it. And what's

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Speaker 1: okay If people are unvaccinated and they're the only ones

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Speaker 1: that are at risk, which is what they're saying, even

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Speaker 1: though that's apparently not true, then the vaccinated people need

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Speaker 1: to stop whining about this. I don't want to. He

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Speaker 1: can do whatever they want and not have to worry

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Speaker 1: about the unvaccinated people, right, I mean, if that were true,

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Speaker 1: then I don't think you would be bringing back masks.

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Speaker 1: And also again, you would have taken care of you

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Speaker 1: and your family and you wouldn't need to obsessively worry,

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Speaker 1: and people say, well, there's still the danger of variance emerging.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that the variance, if you look at

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Speaker 1: the data, are not coming from America, because comparatively, the

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Speaker 1: ones that are going to spread going forward are going

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Speaker 1: to occur in the countries with minimal vaccination rates, which

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Speaker 1: is much of the world right now. And the delta

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Speaker 1: variant was ripping all over India as we know that's

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Speaker 1: had a terrible time with COVID. And just just an

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Speaker 1: another there's so many giant lies that have been told

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Speaker 1: by the Democrats, by the Fauciites about COVID the whole time.

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Speaker 1: But just one of the ones that they that they

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Speaker 1: were pressing so hard last year was that it's Trump's fault.

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Speaker 1: America had the worst response of any country. It's Trump's

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Speaker 1: fault that story disappears. Are psychopaths. They lied to you.

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Speaker 1: Other countries, European countries, India, Brazil had worse COVID debts

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Speaker 1: and hospitalizations and infection rates. I'm pretty sure that's not

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Speaker 1: because Orange man bad. So remember that while they're telling

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Speaker 1: you now to just listen to the science. Travis in

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Speaker 1: Rock Island, Illinois what's up. Yeah, names Travis and Mega

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Speaker 1: Dido's guys. Great listening to you. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: went to the school board meeting because of course on Monday,

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Speaker 1: we get the message from our school district that we

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Speaker 1: are going back to masks and we start school. Actually

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Speaker 1: really we start on the third seconds this year of August.

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Speaker 1: And so I sat and I listened to the presentation

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Speaker 1: from the superintendent here Illinois or in Rock Island, and

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Speaker 1: he was connecting the dots the previous meetings going all

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Speaker 1: the eight then three other executive meetings that they keep

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Speaker 1: everything confidential at and they flat outside that this is

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Speaker 1: all tied to the money. The masking of our kids

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Speaker 1: is tied to the money they're getting from state and

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Speaker 1: federal glance. Well, see, this has been my concern along

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Speaker 1: in Travis, thanks for calling in Clay. When the federal government,

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Speaker 1: you know, doesn't want to be in charge of making

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Speaker 1: these decisions, it's oh, health policy is left to the states.

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Speaker 1: But then when some states want to actually protect the

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Speaker 1: rights of people to breathe normal air and things like that,

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Speaker 1: the federal government has a lot of strings to pull,

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Speaker 1: like funding in from the Department of Education, So that's right,

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Speaker 1: and I think that scares some people out there because

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Speaker 1: given how much money is going to schools and teachers.

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Speaker 1: By the way, one of the most ridiculous parts of

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Speaker 1: but teachers who didn't really work for a year got

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Speaker 1: bonuses all over the country, which is just pure madness

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Speaker 1: in addition to like madness on top of madness. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's the fear out there that at some

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Speaker 1: point point, and this is why I believe so many

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Speaker 1: people are looking into what they can and can't do,

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Speaker 1: that they're going to try to mandate masks on all

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Speaker 1: kids in all states, and they're going to use all

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Speaker 1: of the money rolling in as potentially a way to

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Speaker 1: get it done. Dwayne in North Carolina. Hey, Dwayne, my

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Speaker 1: question goes along with what the last color was asking about.

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Speaker 1: And I also have a suggestion after that, if you'd

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Speaker 1: or let it be a parents' decision. Clay, you keep

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Speaker 1: stating there's data out there that shows that the masks

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Speaker 1: don't work. And as a as a parent, is there

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Speaker 1: a way that you could get that information those links

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Speaker 1: out to us as far as where we need to

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Speaker 1: go to present that data to these board members. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to tweet out and the data is And

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Speaker 1: even the New York Times, I was done, said it

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Speaker 1: yesterday that your kids are more likely to die driving

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Speaker 1: to and from school in your car than they are

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Speaker 1: to die from COVID in the United States. I was

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Speaker 1: stunned that the New York Times actually put that in print.

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Speaker 1: But the data is that kids aren't primary vectors and

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Speaker 1: that they are not in any way under risk. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they're under more risk from the seasonal flu or as

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Speaker 1: I just said, driving to and from school. Coming up

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes here, can you say the word

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Speaker 1: women as a professor in medical school without having the

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Speaker 1: woke mob come after you for transphobia. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: people training doctors here, folks. Do they believe in men

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