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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Buck Sexton Show. And why see addition,
Speaker 2: because I got stuck here because they cancel a few
Speaker 2: thousand flights.
Speaker 3: So here I am in the Big Apple.
Speaker 2: But fortunately my buddy Alex Berenson is around to shed
Speaker 2: some light on things. You all know him from his
Speaker 2: phenomenal substack. His book Pandemia and Unreported Truths is the
Speaker 2: COVID substack. He's still fighting a good fight to get
Speaker 2: us some truth on what the heck happened during COVID.
Speaker 2: We know it was a complete disaster in terms of
Speaker 2: the response. Mister Berenson, always an honor, sir. Good to
Speaker 2: see you again, Good to see you.
Speaker 4: I was wondering why you had the New York City background.
Speaker 2: I know I'm usually a Miami guy these days, but
Speaker 2: you know that I don't know what's going on. Airlines
Speaker 2: getting worse. I'm not just gonna say it's Biden's fault,
Speaker 2: but maybe it's Biden's fault. Airlines seem to be getting
Speaker 2: worse all the time. Tell me this though, this, So
Speaker 2: this is something I saw this, you share this on
Speaker 2: your sub stack, which I'm a subscriber to, plays a
Speaker 2: subscriber to, so you know, we're fans, and you're talking
Speaker 2: about something that's really important to people, or should be
Speaker 2: really important to everybody. Some people, I think, try to
Speaker 2: block this stuff out now, and.
Speaker 1: It is, well, were there really serious fatal heart issues
Speaker 1: based on real studies from real places that people need
Speaker 1: to know about when it comes to the COVID vaccine?
Speaker 3: What can you tell us?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: So this sort of comes under the broadheading of Died Suddenly,
Speaker 5: which you know that's been a controversial topic. And there
Speaker 5: was a movie that came out a few months ago
Speaker 5: which actually was to my mind a real problem because
Speaker 5: it was so easy to dismiss. But but so died
Speaker 5: Suddenly is you know, people who were vaccinated and then
Speaker 5: had cardiac events afterwards, right who or cardiovascular you know?
Speaker 5: And and to take an example that nobody would disagree with,
Speaker 5: there's a small number of really middle aged, young and
Speaker 5: middle aged women who had terrible uh bleeds in their
Speaker 5: brain following the Johnson and Johnson are Astroseneca vaccine. You know,
Speaker 5: it was it was just a tiny handful of women,
Speaker 5: but these were fatal most of the time, and they
Speaker 5: were terrible. So the issue with the mRNA vaccines is
Speaker 5: we know they can cause myocarditis in some people. That's
Speaker 5: you know, heart inflammation. But the CDC and these you know,
Speaker 5: these groups have all the public health bureaucrats and the media.
Speaker 5: They all say, oh, it's it's very rare when that happens,
Speaker 5: and it's very mild, and uh, you know, and yes,
Speaker 5: there are gonna be some people who die after being vaccinated,
Speaker 5: but that would just happen randomly, that just you know,
Speaker 5: it would because so many people got vaccinated. You have
Speaker 5: to expect that some people will die, you know, even
Speaker 5: if they're young and healthy. Just because we're giving a
Speaker 5: billion vaccines to people, or we're going to give a
Speaker 5: billion people this this new vaccine, some of them are
Speaker 5: going to die. It turns out that's not true. It
Speaker 5: turns out that there is a there's a real pattern
Speaker 5: that if you autopsy people who've died shortly after being
Speaker 5: vaccinated of sudden cardiac events, you can see the inflammation
Speaker 5: in their hearts in a specific way. And in the
Speaker 5: cases where this is vaccine cost and and doctors in
Speaker 5: three different countries, in Japan, in South Korea, and in Cutter,
Speaker 5: you know, and I would say all three of those
Speaker 5: countries are advanced countries, including Cutter. I mean Cutter is
Speaker 5: a wealthy nation. They did medical record reviews or autopsies,
Speaker 5: and they found a significant number of deaths that you know,
Speaker 5: in young men, especially after being vaccinated. These sudden cardiac
Speaker 5: deaths could be causally linked to the vaccine.
Speaker 4: So I want to be clear.
Speaker 5: We're not talking about, you know, ten people get vaccinated
Speaker 5: and one dies a sudden cardiac death. If that had happened,
Speaker 5: it would be obvious. We're talking about maybe, if there's
Speaker 5: fifty thousand vaccination series given to people, one young man
Speaker 5: might die. Okay, so maybe that doesn't sound like a
Speaker 5: lot to people, But when you vaccinate one hundred million
Speaker 5: people under the age of forty, that's a couple of
Speaker 5: thousand deaths globally. And the other thing you have to
Speaker 5: understand about this is is there's no benefit to vaccinating
Speaker 5: those people. If you're a healthy young man, you're at
Speaker 5: very very low risk from COVID, putting aside all the
Speaker 5: other band things that can happen if you're vaccinated with
Speaker 5: these mRNA's and stuff that we you know, we're only
Speaker 5: two years into this. We don't even know truly what
Speaker 5: the long term effects are. And putting aside the fact
Speaker 5: that these vaccines don't do anything to stop COVID long term,
Speaker 5: this all by itself suggests that there's a measurable risk
Speaker 5: that somebody is going to drop dead of milcarditis that
Speaker 5: leads to a heart attack and or cardiac death. And
Speaker 5: unless you do the work, unless you autopsy them.
Speaker 4: You're never going to know it.
Speaker 5: And so to me, it's just it's disgusting that the
Speaker 5: public health authorities won't acknowledge this, and that they that
Speaker 5: they that they that they didn't do the work, and
Speaker 5: instead of doing the work, they said people like me
Speaker 5: were just making it up. Well, you know, it's not me,
Speaker 5: it's it's doctors in Japan and South Korea and Kutter
Speaker 5: who who did very good work on this.
Speaker 2: Why isn't the US doing anything at this phase of
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, I could guess, but I just
Speaker 2: want to know. I mean, how could it be for
Speaker 2: all the people out there, for the doctor Hotes is
Speaker 2: you know, sitting in the back, now that you were
Speaker 2: sitting in the front. But now they're kind of all
Speaker 2: shuffling around what possible rationale could there be for other
Speaker 2: countries doing more serious studies of the covid vaccine side
Speaker 2: effects than what we see here.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we just don't want to.
Speaker 5: I mean, whether or not the public health authorities are
Speaker 5: going to admit it, the covid vaccines are dead.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: Walgreens actually, Walgreens is you know, obviously a huge drug
Speaker 5: store chain. Their earnings fell short of estimates, their stock
Speaker 5: went way down yesterday Tuesday, and one reason was they
Speaker 5: said covid vaccines fell even further than we predicted they
Speaker 5: would year over year, They felt more than eighty percent.
Speaker 5: So I think everybody in the public health establishment, whether
Speaker 5: they know it or not, or I'm sorry, whether they
Speaker 5: admit it or not, is fully aware that nobody under
Speaker 5: fifty is ever going to get these shots again. Most
Speaker 5: you know, most older people aren't even gonna get them.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be very few of these administered, and they're
Speaker 5: just gonna pretend this's never happened, just like they pretended
Speaker 5: the lockdowns didn't happen, and they pretended school closures weren't
Speaker 5: their fault, and they pretended, you know, we didn't spend
Speaker 5: billions and billions of dollars on useless test and trace
Speaker 5: and try to get you to download digital apps on
Speaker 5: your phone.
Speaker 4: Remember all this stuff book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this happened, and it's all been memory hold and
Speaker 5: and everything that happened with the vaccines is going to
Speaker 5: is going the same way. It's totally obvious. And so
Speaker 5: to research these side effects, they just don't want to.
Speaker 5: They're just I think they're just hoping that there's no
Speaker 5: long term damage. The problem for them is that if
Speaker 5: you look at England in particular, which has really good
Speaker 5: death data that they report weekly, is still way way
Speaker 5: above normal in terms of all cause mortality, and nobody
Speaker 5: has been able to explain that either. So when I
Speaker 5: say way way above normal again, I'm not talking about
Speaker 5: oh they're you know, double the number of people have died.
Speaker 5: What I mean is ten or fifteen percent above normal,
Speaker 5: which during COVID time that's about what it was, and
Speaker 5: we shut down the world. Now we're running at the
Speaker 5: same death rates and the public health authorities just won't
Speaker 5: even talk about it. So I mean I do feel
Speaker 5: you know, I know you still talk about this. You
Speaker 5: know when Tucker was on you Know, which obviously is
Speaker 5: not on Fox anymore, but he was talking about it.
Speaker 5: Hopefully when he gets back on Twitter, he'll talk about it.
Speaker 5: But I feel like we're we're trying to swim upstream
Speaker 5: here against a media that just wants to pretend that
Speaker 5: nothing in the last three years happened.
Speaker 2: So can I want to offer you a theori ast
Speaker 2: to why that's happening. And it's a tremendous frustration for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, you were out there and you deserve all
Speaker 2: credit on this one on the forefront, shouting to everybody,
Speaker 2: this is crazy, particularly in the vacs. I mean, I
Speaker 2: thought masks were insane from the beginning, and they were,
Speaker 2: and lockdowns were absolutely nuts from the beginning, and they
Speaker 2: were the vaccines. I was willing to be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know they think these things work. You
Speaker 2: were saying, hold on, hold on, look at the data.
Speaker 2: I want to get back in a second, Alex to
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Speaker 3: All right, Alex on Covid, I think this is what's happened.
Speaker 2: They used brute force to make everybody do things, including
Speaker 2: people who knew that it was crazy. But that created
Speaker 2: a a complicity that now everybody just wants to forget, right,
Speaker 2: Like I think of I think of a lot of
Speaker 2: parents out there who probably thought to themselves, my kid
Speaker 2: being masked up on the plane and in school and
Speaker 2: all this stuff is absurd, But they did it because.
Speaker 3: They were made to do it.
Speaker 2: And so I think now there's just a everyone wants
Speaker 2: to forget because a lot of us had to do
Speaker 2: crazy things, whether we wanted to or not.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I fear you're right. You know,
Speaker 5: we're all we're all good Germans now right, we're all
Speaker 5: we all want to forget what we what we did.
Speaker 5: And and for those few of us who and you know,
Speaker 5: I would put you in this category who really from
Speaker 5: the beginning stood out and said some of the I
Speaker 5: forgot masks. By the way, when I said all the
Speaker 5: crazy stuff, right, they they the masks were masking was
Speaker 5: crazy too, but we all went along with it, and
Speaker 5: we all, yeah, you're right, we all want to forget it,
Speaker 5: and so I feel like sometimes and you know, look,
Speaker 5: I got still have a tremendous following on substack, and
Speaker 5: you can go and see how many you know, how
Speaker 5: many comments in the average article gets. My readers are
Speaker 5: very like focused on this. But I can feel that
Speaker 5: we are sort of a small group that we are,
Speaker 5: that we are trying to resist the memory holding and
Speaker 5: say we need to fix the historical record. But when
Speaker 5: when thirty percent of the country actively liked it and
Speaker 5: fifty or sixty percent as you say, went along with
Speaker 5: it despite their concerns, that doesn't leave that many people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's amazing to see how like I mean
Speaker 2: to me, you know, if you're like Gretchen Whitmer in
Speaker 2: Michigan and she got pretty resoundingly re elected, I just
Speaker 2: want to say, what the hell is that? I mean,
Speaker 2: that is this woman was insane, was like this you know,
Speaker 2: Hellish soccer mom tyrant. You know, it was like Stalin
Speaker 2: decided to run the state of Michigan for a while
Speaker 2: and Michigan Anders went along with it. I mean, one
Speaker 2: area that I wonder if they're really going to track
Speaker 2: this down or not, because normally they will You've probably
Speaker 2: seen alex two hundred billion dollars of COVID relief they
Speaker 2: think was was effectively stolen through fraud. Are they going
Speaker 2: to track all that down or a lot of those
Speaker 2: frauds ors? Is it going to be part of the
Speaker 2: memory holding?
Speaker 5: You know? That seems one thing that they will, you know,
Speaker 5: discuss is how you know there's some you know, if
Speaker 5: you were some some guy in Houston or whatever who
Speaker 5: had you know, bought eighteen cars like.
Speaker 4: Those are those are the one people.
Speaker 5: Were allowed to say, you know, the one type of
Speaker 5: person who's the victor or the villain of COVID. I
Speaker 5: will say it's interesting and so so the US doesn't
Speaker 5: talk about vaccine side effects, there is work being done
Speaker 5: in other countries.
Speaker 4: And the Europeans.
Speaker 5: Actually, who are who are a little bit more resistant
Speaker 5: to you know, advanced biotechnology than the US and certainly
Speaker 5: don't like to pay for it. You know, they are
Speaker 5: fighting right now with Pfizer and Maderna about the fact
Speaker 5: that Pfizer and Maderna wanted to deliver a hundreds of
Speaker 5: millions of more doses of vaccines that the Europeans don't want,
Speaker 5: and so and so basically, they're gonna get stuck in
Speaker 5: a freezer until they're expired. And Piser and Maderna are
Speaker 5: basically I should say, I'm not as sure about Maderna,
Speaker 5: but Pfizer has basically said, you don't want the vaccines, fine,
Speaker 5: you just have to pay us half of what we
Speaker 5: would have gotten for them anyway, And so that has
Speaker 5: caused a little bit of.
Speaker 4: Anger in Europe.
Speaker 5: But you know, you would think, buck, there are investigative
Speaker 5: reporters out there who would be interested forget about whether
Speaker 5: how well the vaccines worked or didn't the fact that
Speaker 5: literally probably about two billion doses, as best as I
Speaker 5: can figure, were manufactured and paid for and never used
Speaker 5: at a cost of something.
Speaker 4: Like forty billion dollars.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, we have a big government that
Speaker 5: wastes a lot of money, and it wasn't all in
Speaker 5: the US anyway, but forty billion dollars is still a
Speaker 5: lot of money. Yet, because it's related to you know,
Speaker 5: the Holy vaccine, no investigator in the world except me,
Speaker 5: well touch It's really it's really phenomenal, the unwillingness to
Speaker 5: ask just the most basic questions.
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Speaker 2: I get this all the time. People say, Buck, you
Speaker 2: agree with him on COVID, and I say yes, but
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know about all the other stuff
Speaker 2: though that's going on. When he's talking about all you know,
Speaker 2: he went on Rogan. I know you've been on Rogan
Speaker 2: talking about the vaccines. You know my YouTube channel has
Speaker 2: been going far too long without a strike, So why
Speaker 2: don't you tell me, Alex? What do we need to
Speaker 2: know here about RFK Junior? Is he getting it right?
Speaker 2: Is he going too far when he talks about vaccine specifically?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I basically agree with you.
Speaker 5: I hate I hate to agree because I know it's
Speaker 5: it's boring television or podcast, and maybe that's why we
Speaker 5: should get a strike. But look, he he's right to
Speaker 5: raise serious questions about the m R and ASH.
Speaker 4: I have not investigated the childhood vaccines. I never have.
Speaker 5: My sense from people I trust is that they work,
Speaker 5: and my kids have all been vaccinating with the standard stuff,
Speaker 5: not the MR ANDAs they've all gotten the standard vaccine schedules.
Speaker 5: I don't have any regrets about that, and they'll continue
Speaker 5: to go on the standard schedule. So that's where I
Speaker 5: personally stand on that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's really important by the people know this,
Speaker 2: not like you know, you know what I mean that
Speaker 2: the way that people act like, I know, the climate
Speaker 2: change lunacy is crap because they're all frauds, right, They
Speaker 2: don't actually live their lives where they want everyone else to.
Speaker 2: If you've gotten your own kids vaccinated and feel good
Speaker 2: about it, people need to know that.
Speaker 5: Yes, here's what I would say broadly, okay about RFK JR.
Speaker 5: He is raising good questions about the fact that, you know,
Speaker 5: the childhood and adult vaccine schedule has just exploded in
Speaker 5: the last twenty five years, and there's clearly the fact
Speaker 5: that these companies can get liability protection for anything that
Speaker 5: gets labeled as a vaccine is driving that. The fact
Speaker 5: that this used to be sort of a tiny little
Speaker 5: corner of the pharmaceutical world and now it's bigger and
Speaker 5: bigger business, you know, with the with the m R
Speaker 5: and A COVID vaccines being the biggest pharmaceutical product ever
Speaker 5: over the last you know, twenty four months, although now
Speaker 5: that's you know, that's that's gone away.
Speaker 4: I think he's right.
Speaker 5: He's right that we we need to look critically at
Speaker 5: what we're doing with these products that we call vaccines
Speaker 5: that have very very little in common with old school
Speaker 5: you know, the old school polio vaccine or the old
Speaker 5: you know, these these these simple inactivated virus vaccines that
Speaker 5: have been around for a long time. So I agree
Speaker 5: with that, and I also agree with his broad critique
Speaker 5: that the that the medical system, especially in the United States,
Speaker 5: is not working very well for people that you know
Speaker 5: that they're they're all the money we spend, our results
Speaker 5: are terrible, and you know, I don't even know if
Speaker 5: it's fixable. But I understand the frustration that he's channeling.
Speaker 5: But that said, the specific stuff that he gets on with,
Speaker 5: whether it's about you know, Wi FI, I don't even
Speaker 5: understand what the wi FI critique is, to be honest
Speaker 5: with you, I mean, or it seems bizarre to me.
Speaker 5: And you know, some of the complaints he has about
Speaker 5: specific childhood vaccines, I don't There does not seem to be.
Speaker 4: Great scientific grounding for a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 5: So so I'm glad, Look, I'm glad that I'm glad
Speaker 5: that he's speaking. I'm glad that somebody who's passionate is
Speaker 5: raising questions about where healthcare is in the United States.
Speaker 5: But a lot of the stuff that he says specifically
Speaker 5: is problematic.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about.
Speaker 2: So you have a background, I'm back from your days
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Speaker 2: has just to proved lab grown meat. Does that on
Speaker 2: a culinary level? I will speak with some confidence here
Speaker 2: that it is not going to taste like real meat
Speaker 2: and will be gross, because all meats taste like fake meat.
Speaker 2: But is this is it getting a little weird with
Speaker 2: the Frankenstein meats and the you know, the all the
Speaker 2: stuff they're putting in our food.
Speaker 3: This kind of ties into some of the JFK junior stuff.
Speaker 4: You know what, do I have to have an opinion
Speaker 4: on everything?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, fake meat. You cannot skate escape fake meat.
Speaker 4: I'm not eating you, all right?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know this seems like a solution looking
Speaker 5: for a problem, right, I mean, I guess you want
Speaker 5: to say, like you wanted the taste of meat without
Speaker 5: having to kill animals.
Speaker 4: And I guess.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a climate change thing, is you know, they're
Speaker 2: also doing this with the pizza ovens now in New York.
Speaker 2: They want to get rid of coal fired pizza because
Speaker 2: they say there's too much CO two emission for making
Speaker 2: most delicious and New York at pizza.
Speaker 5: By yeah, I think people, I mean, look, this is
Speaker 5: the bigger issue. The bigger issue is there's a serious
Speaker 5: move in New York State, I think in other Blue
Speaker 5: states to move you know what I would call sort
Speaker 5: of normal heating sources from residential and commercial buildings.
Speaker 4: Right there, we're going to.
Speaker 6: Try to build with with no with no you know,
Speaker 6: oil or or or or or propane or you know,
Speaker 6: we're going to try to build with non carbon emitting
Speaker 6: heating sources.
Speaker 5: And in in in the Northeast and in the Midwest.
Speaker 5: I mean, that just seems absolutely insane and impossible to me.
Speaker 5: I don't know whether they're actually going to, you know,
Speaker 5: try to force this through, but I know in some communities,
Speaker 5: uh you know, some in not too far from where
Speaker 5: I live, there's a town that that's pushing in this direction.
Speaker 5: So I think you said it best when you said
Speaker 5: these people don't they want to get on private jets
Speaker 5: and do whatever they want. Okay, they want to admit
Speaker 5: as much carbon, you know, as a as a million
Speaker 5: African villagers do when they fly to Tahaiti. Okay, So
Speaker 5: so don't lecture me about how I have to change
Speaker 5: my life when you are basically going to exempt yourself
Speaker 5: from all of it. And and I do think that
Speaker 5: the hypocrisy is very destructive, and I don't think any
Speaker 5: of it's gonna work. I mean I do. I think
Speaker 5: if the Democrats actually pushed this, they'll be tremendous pushback
Speaker 5: to them.
Speaker 2: Alex parents and everybody, go check out Alex's a sub
Speaker 2: sect unreported truths?
Speaker 3: Am I still right on that one?
Speaker 5: You are?
Speaker 4: You are?
Speaker 5: There are still truths that you know that are being unreported.
Speaker 5: And hopefully one day we'll get to talk I don't
Speaker 5: know what about the about the Yankees or the Mets
Speaker 5: or something, and we will not have to talk about
Speaker 5: COVID and lies about the vaccines.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we can.
Speaker 2: Well you'll have to teach me about these things because
Speaker 2: I do not watch the base ball series. Clay is
Speaker 2: the base Actually, I'm going to tell you something. I'm
Speaker 2: calling them out right now I make jokes about this
Speaker 2: on the radio show with Clay. You can bring up,
Speaker 2: you know, a second string SEC player from nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 2: and he'll tell you, you know what that what that
Speaker 2: players like parents' first names were.
Speaker 3: But baseball, he gets a little shaky. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: tell you baseball. He's you know, he's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you know that that picture. He's great. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: see what you're doing there.
Speaker 2: So you'll you're much more I thick on the baseball
Speaker 2: side of things than both of those.
Speaker 3: You are suing the federal government, aren't you? Is that underway?
Speaker 4: Still?
Speaker 5: Yes, we didn't even we didn't talk. Next time we'll talk.
Speaker 5: Berenson Vie Biden Missouri b Biden. Social media censorship. This
Speaker 5: is an issue that really does matter because it matters
Speaker 5: for all these other things, right, it matters for how
Speaker 5: we demate climate change or Ukraine or any anything else.
Speaker 5: And you know RFK Junior getting censored by YouTube over
Speaker 5: and over again. So I do think this is a
Speaker 5: series like this is worthy of its own segment.
Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll have you back, sir. We'll have
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Speaker 2: you for your work, SIRT, thanks for joining you soon