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Speaker 1: are continuing our player rankings today with number eight Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: the very first time I've had him outside of my

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Speaker 1: top five. You guys know the drill before we get started.

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Under Hoops tonight, all right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: some basketball. The theme of today's show is going to

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Speaker 1: be about accepting reality, particularly the reality of age, because

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Speaker 1: you know, today actually happens to be my birthday and

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Speaker 1: I turned thirty two today, and the reality of that

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Speaker 1: is I'm not the same person human being that I

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Speaker 1: was when I was twenty five years old. A lot

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Speaker 1: of positive changes, especially as it comes to life experience

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Speaker 1: and just learning how to navigate the human experience, which

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Speaker 1: can be super challenging with all the responsibilities both financially

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Speaker 1: and socially and with your family and all these different things.

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Speaker 1: But physically you're going to experience a certain amount of decline,

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Speaker 1: right Like I've noticed that I can't eat the same

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Speaker 1: way I did when I was younger without reaping consequences.

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Speaker 1: was younger without feeling like absolute dog shit for a day,

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Speaker 1: sometimes even two anymore. Even when it comes to basketball,

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Speaker 1: I go up to the gym and I see the

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Speaker 1: younger players dunking around between games and before games, and

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Speaker 1: I'm over there, like, Okay, I'll get loose, but if

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Speaker 1: the game because I just don't have the as many

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Speaker 1: reps left in me as I used to. And I'm

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Speaker 1: only thirty two. Mister Lebron James, in December of this

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Speaker 1: year is going to turn thirty nine years old, and

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Speaker 1: that made this the toughest decision I had to make

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Speaker 1: in my top ten because I was torn between Lebron

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Speaker 1: and one other player, a player that you guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna hear about tomorrow for this number eight spot, And

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Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent clear, if both players were

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Speaker 1: with even rosters, I'd pick Lebron over this guy, and

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, i'd pick him ahead of a couple of

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Speaker 1: But there's a reality that comes with Lebron. James's turning

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Speaker 1: thirty nine this year, a lot of the reality that

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Speaker 1: you saw throughout the previous four or five years as

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Speaker 1: he's entered into his late thirties, and those were the

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Speaker 1: main reasons that caused me to go with him at eight.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is is we don't get perfect circumstances.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to fast forward and just have healthy

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Speaker 1: to play an eighty two game season, you've got to

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Speaker 1: I have above Lebron on this list, I just think

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Speaker 1: within the season, but let's dive into it a quick

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Speaker 1: season recap for Lebron played in fifty five games this year,

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Speaker 1: dealt with multiple injuries throughout the season. I think it

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Speaker 1: he played through in the playoffs, he had a different

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Speaker 1: different nagging injuries. Lebron has failed to play in at

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Speaker 1: So again, it's not just projecting forward for Lebron heading

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Speaker 1: Although this past season was the first time that stretched

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Speaker 1: You'd see a replay of him spraining his ankle and

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Speaker 1: So it's not a shot at Lebron. It's just the

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Speaker 1: But despite all of that, he had a very very

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Speaker 1: my opinion, from the standpoint of floating the ship under

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Speaker 1: less than ideal circumstances. So this is where the Lakers

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Speaker 1: They extended that by locking up Anthony Davis long term

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Speaker 1: under what's sixty two million dollars a year or something

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Speaker 1: it was really rough. Especially coming into this season, the

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of players in the NBA would have

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Speaker 1: because Lebron played some of the very best basketball of

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Speaker 1: They made the play In Tournament by one game at

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Speaker 1: how well he shoots the basketball. But despite the poor

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Speaker 1: Lebron season again that thirty five eight to eight stretch

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Speaker 1: on fifty eight percent trough shooting. That is top tier production,

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Speaker 1: top tier winning impact. Playing five hundred ball without Anthony

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Speaker 1: also dominant attacking the rim. He was third in the

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Speaker 1: at doing that specifically. But then the Dallas game happens.

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Speaker 1: But that's not reality. And again the theme of the

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Speaker 1: show is reality. The reality is is we don't know

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Speaker 1: if Lebron's gonna have his jump shot back next season,

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Speaker 1: and we don't know if he'll be healthy for the

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Speaker 1: majority of the season. As a matter of fact, it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty safe bet he's gonna miss a third of

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Speaker 1: the regular season and he'll probably be playing through some

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Speaker 1: sort of nagging injury when we get to April. I

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Speaker 1: hope that that doesn't happen. And but like I just

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Speaker 1: would be shocked if it didn't happen. I would be

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Speaker 1: genuinely surprised. If Lebron was just trucking along, played seventy

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Speaker 1: five games this year and was just ready to go

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Speaker 1: for the postseason and top to top shape, I just

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Speaker 1: would be I would be shocked, wouldn't you, guys? And

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Speaker 1: so how do we not factor that in in this list? Guys?

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Speaker 1: He turns thirty nine years old in December thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: It was completely unprecedented for him to play at the

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Speaker 1: level he played at age thirty eight. It's not going

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Speaker 1: to get better from here. If it did, it would

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Speaker 1: be highly unusual. As for the jump shot, as I

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Speaker 1: talk about a lot on the show, lift is one

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Speaker 1: of the most important elements of jump shooting. And it's

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Speaker 1: not just in the vacuum of the jump shot, it's

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Speaker 1: in the flow of actual basketball games. I've got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of I did a workout yesterday at the Richard

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Speaker 1: Jefferson Center with five of my younger college friends who

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Speaker 1: are still playing playing in college, and they're all just

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Speaker 1: in town for like a week before they had out

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Speaker 1: of town. And every summer when these guys come back,

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Speaker 1: I just do workouts with them, and they're all in

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Speaker 1: incredible shape, and they're at a higher level than a

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Speaker 1: lot of the players I normally play against in Tucson.

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Speaker 1: And I was playing with them yesterday, and like just

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Speaker 1: the fatigue element just from like like running around and

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Speaker 1: playing like crazy intense physical basketball against real basketball players.

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Speaker 1: There's a fatigue element, and like getting the like you

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Speaker 1: go to rise up into your jump shot and the

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Speaker 1: lift you're accustomed to getting just isn't there. It's not, oh,

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Speaker 1: do you have enough lift to get the ball to

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Speaker 1: the rims standing by yourself and a gym doing a

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Speaker 1: shooting drill. It's Lebron James at age thirty nine trying

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Speaker 1: to get lyft into a jump shot, playing against young

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Speaker 1: kids who feel great and their bodies are all in

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Speaker 1: great shape. And then look at the pace the NBA

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Speaker 1: is played out. Now, look at how the floor is

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Speaker 1: spread and all of the driving and kicking, the sheer

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Speaker 1: amount of distance traveled in an NBA game right now

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Speaker 1: is unprecedented, and Lebron at age thirty nine, is trying

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Speaker 1: to keep up on a team that has a defensive identity,

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Speaker 1: and so that's the thing is like, I'm more like

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty on this. Like with the injury thing,

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Speaker 1: I feel relatively certain going to miss at least a

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Speaker 1: third of the season, and I'd say that there's probably

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Speaker 1: what like a seventy percent chance he's dealing with some

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Speaker 1: sort of nagging injury come April. With the jump shot thing,

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Speaker 1: it could be either one of two things is true.

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Speaker 1: Either it was just a slump or this is a

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Speaker 1: byproduct of his decline and he's not quite getting the

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Speaker 1: lift he needs and so he's starting to leave jump

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Speaker 1: shots short more often. Or he's having to use his

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Speaker 1: arms more in a shot, which is always a disrupts

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Speaker 1: muscle memory. So we don't know. I thought this was

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Speaker 1: one of Lebron's most impressive seasons in terms of competitive

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Speaker 1: force of will and doing whatever his team needed to

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Speaker 1: float the ship under less than ideal circumstances, and when

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Speaker 1: in healthy and when in rhythm and healthy, I think

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Speaker 1: he's one of the very best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: But in my opinion, those guys above him on this

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Speaker 1: list are just a safer bet to be at their

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Speaker 1: individual ceilings as players, and their individual ceilings as players

501
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Speaker 1: are higher than Lebron's basement when he's playing with nagging injuries.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why I have Lebron James down at

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Speaker 1: eight and outside of the top five for the first

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Speaker 1: time in well over a decade. One last thing before

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Speaker 1: we get out of here, I had some Luka Doncic

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Speaker 1: fans ask why did I have Lebron up at four

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Speaker 1: after missing the playoffs the year before. It's fair question,

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Speaker 1: but it's a very simple explanation. You guys know this.

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Speaker 1: I always give enormous leeway two champions And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know you think, oh, Lebron, he won his titles in

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. In twenty sixteen, Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: But guess what do you remember when Janis won the title,

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Speaker 1: the title that has Giannis really high on this list

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Speaker 1: in terms of recognition of his ability. Yiannis won the

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Speaker 1: title not that long ago, and that was just nine

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Speaker 1: months after Lebron James and won a finals. MVP should

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Speaker 1: have won the league. MVP, in my opinion, and was

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Speaker 1: clearly the best player in the world. We are not

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Speaker 1: that far removed from Lebron James being in that situation.

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00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: It was very clearly roster oriented. That's why they won

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Speaker 1: the freaking title. Russell Westbrook trade two awful years right,

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Speaker 1: then get rid of Russell Westbrook immediately back in the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals. I thought Lebron deserved a great deal

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Speaker 1: of leeway as a four time NBA champion and a

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Speaker 1: four time finals MVP, with one relatively recently. Then Luka

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Speaker 1: don chicch who got his ass kicked in the Western

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Speaker 1: Conference finals once. Okay, so like and for you Luca fans, again,

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Speaker 1: this is the most important detail. I am unbiased in

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Speaker 1: the way that I apply that rule. If Luca wins

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Speaker 1: a championship, I'm gonna be giving him the same leeway. Guys.

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Speaker 1: If Nikola Jokic missed the playoffs this year because he

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00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: got hurt, or Jamal Murray got hurt and Michael Porter

533
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Junior got hurt and the West was stacked and he

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Speaker 1: ended up in a tough playing game on the road

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Speaker 1: against Minnesota, and Jokic went for thirty eight, seventeen and

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Speaker 1: fourteen and they lost, and he missed the playoffs. I'm

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Speaker 1: not dropping Jokic very far. Probably still have him at

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Speaker 1: the top unless someone else has a truly great playoff

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00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: runt to supplant him. Why because he's the defending champ,

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Speaker 1: not young Luka Doncic who hasn't accomplished anything in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yet again, you guys, remember to me, talking about what

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Speaker 1: Luca is capable of is fantasy basketball. That's theoretical. Talking

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00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: about a guy who hoisted the trophy, that's reality. We

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Speaker 1: play the games so that it's not theoretical. Theoretical only

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00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: goes so far. What's the saying from Oppenheimer theory will

546
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: only take you so far or whatever. That's the real

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Speaker 1: If it was all theoretical, we would give all these

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Speaker 1: guys a two K rating and give the trophy to

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Speaker 1: the guy who had the highest two K rating. That's

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Speaker 1: not how it works. You play the games. The games

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Speaker 1: are what matters. The games lead to the trophy. The

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Speaker 1: trophy has to mean something. And yes, I gave more

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Speaker 1: leeway to the guy who had four trophies than the

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Speaker 1: guy who has zero. And that's always going to be

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Speaker 1: the way that I do this. And again, when it

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: comes down to this, stuff. It's all subjective, and I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you. Even if I guarantee you, even some of

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Speaker 1: you on this who listen to this show who see

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: the game very similarly to me, will have a very

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00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: different list. There hasn't been a single person I've put

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Speaker 1: on this list that I haven't gotten complaints about. I

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00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: got complaints about how high Jamal Murray was, how high

563
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards was, how low Devin Booker was, how low

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard was, how low Damian Lillard was, how low

565
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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell was. Everyone complaints because there're subjective lists, and

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Speaker 1: that's just the way this stuff goes. I will say

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Speaker 1: that I'd much rather have you guys give a basketball case.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people disagree for one reason

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Speaker 1: or another in the comments, and they write out all

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Speaker 1: the reasons why. I always enjoy those because you're giving

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Speaker 1: me your basketball perspective on why you disagree. But when

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Speaker 1: it's just like, screw you, dumbass, why do you have

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00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: so and so above whatever, like that doesn't move the

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Speaker 1: conversation forward at all. I mean, we disagree, though, I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you, if you made a list, obviously something on

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Speaker 1: your list that I think is pretty foolish as well,

577
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Speaker 1: but that's the nature of just how stacked the league is,

578
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Speaker 1: how difficult these decisions are. I mean, I obsessed over

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00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: this Lebron one forever, but I feel like I feel

580
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Speaker 1: like for me, I made the right decision putting him

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Speaker 1: down at eight. But I guarantee you guys that when

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Speaker 1: I come back to record for the next show, I

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Speaker 1: will be getting absolutely slayed for having Lebron solow, because

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Speaker 1: as crazy as every other fan base can be, you've

585
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: never seen anything like Lebron James fans and how they

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Speaker 1: can react about this kind of stuff. But that said

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Speaker 1: most of you guys, obviously, I tend to overly focus

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Speaker 1: on the negative and I have to be better about that,

589
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Speaker 1: and I will be working on it as we go

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Speaker 1: into this season. Most of you guys have been very

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Speaker 1: positive and supportive, and I do sincerely appreciate that we

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Speaker 1: are almost to the end of this list. We have

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Speaker 1: seven more players. We will be back tomorrow with number seven.

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Speaker 1: Some of you guys might have a guess as to

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Speaker 1: who that is, but in the meantime, enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: of your night. I'll see you guys. Then the volume