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Speaker 2: Like you can't this me and it ain't gonna.

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Speaker 3: Work like that, So shock records off of you.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing it? You gotta MICR play the beat.

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Speaker 1: I do this shit right now. I'll make it right now.

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Speaker 1: About him a column like boy, he shacking him. So

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Speaker 1: they got twenty, but they're gonna get me fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do a pig, big pe Put me to pig.

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Speaker 4: I do a pig, big, big, singing a kid. I

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Speaker 4: do a pig, big big, put me to pin. I

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Speaker 4: do a pig, big, big, singing a kid, I do

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Speaker 4: a pig.

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Speaker 2: What is good?

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Speaker 5: How you're living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it

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Speaker 5: is the big podcast, a shack where we always do it,

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Speaker 5: do it big?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Our guy today was just outside balling. But he needs

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Speaker 5: a full introduction. I can do the voice.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: A man that can skip over a beat like a

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Speaker 5: stone over a calm lake. He's lived on the Billboard

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Speaker 5: charts for so long his accountant needed to declare a

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Speaker 5: residency for his taxes. It is the man has a

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Speaker 5: single that went quintuple platinum.

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Speaker 2: How meany that is?

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Speaker 5: There's a five in there somewhere an artist, the founder

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Speaker 5: from Charlotte, North Carolina, The Baby.

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Speaker 2: Granted a grand introduction. Man. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Hey man, you've been kind

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Speaker 3: of quiet? Man what you've been up too?

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Speaker 2: And look, when I'm quiet, I'm plotting.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's when they better watch out.

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Speaker 1: When I get quiet, I'm popping out with it. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a hot summer. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Be a hot summer.

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Speaker 3: So who you be working who I've been working with?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us you want me to do that?

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Speaker 2: Right before I'm at the dropt Just give me two?

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Speaker 3: Just give me two.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I got a new single coming out with skial

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Speaker 2: the Baby. You hit baby yet? Oh yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: Skill the Baby got it on, got it on fire.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 2: I got a new one coming with him.

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Speaker 1: I got something with Todd Dollars sign Touch.

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Speaker 2: So that that one that gone. Yeah'mna leave it. I'm

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Speaker 3: And when is it dropping?

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Speaker 2: Uh uh?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna drop May fourth, May third, My bad May third,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna follow up right after with another

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Speaker 2: Man, they owe me. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I yes, sir, he was working out, so you pulled up,

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Speaker 5: you saw the hoop and said we.

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Speaker 1: You know, I figured we had a couple of extra minutes,

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Speaker 1: and I figured I would demonstrate just in case Shaq

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Speaker 1: was watching the cameras on him him, what the other

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Speaker 2: There's three people in here.

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Speaker 5: Who would you compare your game to.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all time.

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Speaker 1: I would never compare it to the most dominant big

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would imagine your game is different than Sacks.

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Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna big myself up too much. Man,

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Speaker 1: somebody to do I compare my game to? Uh uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm one of a con baby.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna leave it, but I ain't gonna start that

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Speaker 6: is it? But are you off the dribble or you shot?

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Speaker 6: Like what the total package everything player? Man can finish

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Speaker 6: Don't be looking bouch vouch nick.

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Speaker 1: Tell them how I'm rock Uh, yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 2: I got the you know what I'm saying, can go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Dribble with both hands.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, can finish around the room.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, sounds like you're like a Devin Booker type.

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Speaker 1: Booker, Devin Booker a little more. I'm a little more

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Speaker 5: My boy book book cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I ain't gonna ain't gonna beat myself up

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 1: Man, for these people be trying to play me one

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Speaker 5: Me when you play Gilly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we played at my house in the backyard.

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Speaker 3: Man beat them Gil.

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Speaker 2: I look what a camera.

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Speaker 5: Whichever one you want?

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Speaker 2: He brought it up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I definitely I definitely got away with the victory that day. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I definitely love victorious to day. You might tell you

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Speaker 5: You will have plenty of reasons.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready anyway.

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Speaker 5: All right, can you help me out because I was

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Speaker 5: saying your name this week and everyone sometimes my white

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Speaker 5: guy voice gets too fucking strong, and your your name

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Speaker 5: makes me sound really fucking white.

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Speaker 2: My first name. I really know your rap name the baby.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, cause I say the baby and people are like,

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Speaker 5: that's the whitest ship I've ever heard of my.

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Speaker 2: Top, that's sound.

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Speaker 1: When we first how can I sit, I'm like brown,

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Speaker 1: like accepting the wrong baby, Like, what's that like? I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, debaby, and they're like, that sounds

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Speaker 2: Man? It do?

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Speaker 5: Do I know?

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Speaker 2: So sound white? What I did? What's going on? Is

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Speaker 1: Like I don't even I don't even say that, bro.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's baby, like it's baby. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta put some twang to it, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta shooting it up.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was getting clowned all fucking week. It's like, please

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Speaker 5: don't say that, here's the baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, got that voice, though.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I have one of the best white guy voices.

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Speaker 1: Introduction was crazy might leg you for intro or some

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Speaker 5: Brother whatever, you're there at that America, You're about to

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Speaker 1: It's baby for one of the freaky songs, the name

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Speaker 1: the baby, Little Baby, Like when when you heard a

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Speaker 3: And how'd you come up with that name?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 2: Really so so. Originally the name was baby Jesus, but

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We ain't, We ain't want

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Speaker 1: to you know, Rougher, no Feallas, none of that. But

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Speaker 1: it was more so about just my purpose being to

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm here for. Like that's still who I

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Speaker 1: That's what keep me fulfilled, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's what helped me sleep at night when I look

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Speaker 1: you know, doing for other people. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If it was just for me, I probably would have

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be, you know, as.

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Speaker 1: Successful as as I was, and continue to strive to

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Speaker 2: In the in the rooms, and you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely it was more so about that, just

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Speaker 2: But coming into the industry, you know, we know that

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Speaker 2: And that's when we came up with the baby, and then.

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Speaker 2: But I ain't really trip.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's enough room for everybody to get some

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like this dang or none of that, Like

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Speaker 1: he zero percent of a hater, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's enough room for both of us

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Speaker 3: Well I don't. I don't like to put people's business

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Speaker 3: treet but he likes the same medicines you like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing something right here too.

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Speaker 5: I see Oh that was Cam Newton was smoking a cigar. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I like that medicine too. He was talking about black women.

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Speaker 1: My wife is, yeah, that's gonna hear you up.

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Speaker 5: Good speaking of black women. This video was on your

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Speaker 5: I G recently. Let's take a look, yes, ma'am, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, I'll be carefully be saved.

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Speaker 3: So okay.

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Speaker 5: The woman came up to him in his car, picture,

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Speaker 5: reached over, grabbed this man just grabbed him.

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Speaker 2: Did yeah he had he had the.

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Speaker 5: Man, it was like a party favor. She's like, and

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Speaker 5: I'll take one of these to go. Have you ever

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Speaker 5: had a fan? Absolutely all the time, just reach and

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Speaker 1: What happened? A lot that happened that, ain't you know?

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Speaker 1: That definitely wasn't nothing new. When I saw the way

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Speaker 1: to see her get Yeah no, I'm like, don't call

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Speaker 1: the feds.

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Speaker 2: They like the fans about to pick the case up.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a skit, nah, man, it man,

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Speaker 1: you would think a lot, a lot I mean, people

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Speaker 1: done thought a lot of real life things that happened with.

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Speaker 2: Me with skits like that's just how these situations?

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Speaker 5: What was the most egregious one you've ever had or

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Speaker 5: the one that shocked you the more side?

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Speaker 3: On my birthday, when I was playing the Orlando Magic,

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Speaker 3: I get a knock on the door.

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Speaker 2: Because he was a young nigga too, he got prayed.

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Speaker 3: Was twenty one. Knocked on the door and I opened

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Speaker 3: the door and this lady had on the trench coat.

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Speaker 3: She's like, I'm your birthday present. She just dropped the

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Speaker 3: coat on. Was butter ass naked at your house?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: In the hotel?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh?

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Speaker 3: I slammed the door. I was like, there's one. If

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Speaker 5: Did you look through the people after you close?

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Speaker 3: Just because no, because I actually thought it was room

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Speaker 5: What is that like to reach a point where something

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Speaker 1: Getting to that point ain't ain't as fun as you think, man,

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Speaker 3: Like I've always fucked you first and you came out,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, don't let it fool you. You know what

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Speaker 3: You did you see that?

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Speaker 5: No play the clip?

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Speaker 2: You said, what I don't know, Nah, I don't know nothing.

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Speaker 2: I ain't get out no permission slip. No, well, that

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Speaker 2: ain't what I do. It's all good. They said he

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Speaker 2: real niggas. I ain't no pee wee though, so we

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Speaker 2: I don't ask the questions outside Mischian.

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Speaker 2: You could have came and chaluting. Okay, we gonna see,

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Speaker 3: So he was shooting. So there's this thing that I

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Speaker 3: come to somebody hood, you're supposed to check in. I

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Speaker 5: And they were being serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where's my mission? Slip?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah wow.

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Speaker 5: And I saw that people need to call you when

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Speaker 2: No, I don't call me. Okay, come tell your drop

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Speaker 2: y'all can Yeah you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But you don't need no permission for me to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm out your business man. Do you you know what

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Speaker 3: And you used to have to do that too? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that is yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: Please sir, it's being a shack.

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Speaker 3: Please. I think you'll forget that. I'm police, so.

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Speaker 5: I think it's actually hurt police. I feel bad sometimes

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Speaker 5: for athletes and artists because you always get compared to

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Speaker 5: the generations before you. But it's all you, right when

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Speaker 5: when you go on those flows like I mentioned skipping,

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Speaker 5: when you have that staccato what age when you were

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Speaker 5: whether it was like freestyle for your friends?

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Speaker 3: When did that?

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Speaker 5: When did you go that?

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Speaker 1: Resonates with me? I really enjoy that. I really didn't

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Speaker 1: doing none of it really, yeah, as an adult, like

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Speaker 2: I would go to the mall every morning with like

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Speaker 1: Flip flops, and I'd go and DTL and buy a

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Speaker 1: six months straight. So by the time I looked up

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Speaker 1: at like eight nine construction, big black trash bags just

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Speaker 2: Had to take them to the cleaners.

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Speaker 1: But people would already ask me, like I'd be in

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Speaker 1: I'm saying at see me a line the store with

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But as I'm riding.

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Speaker 1: Around all day long doing whatever I'm doing at the time,

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Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. The music that I'm listening to,

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Speaker 1: it sounded like a you know, a soundtrack of my life,

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Speaker 1: my real life. And then I know, at some point

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Speaker 1: I told myself, like I could talk slicking in all

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Speaker 1: these niggas that I'm listening to, like I can you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like I could put the words together actually doing it.

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Speaker 1: You always had a way with words, you know what

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Speaker 1: my got it. I was on I was subleasing his

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Speaker 1: condo uptown the shot. I was twenty one years old.

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Speaker 1: I was the twenty one or twenty two, it was

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Speaker 1: probably right when I turned twenty two. One of the

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Speaker 1: two might have been twenty two. And I told him,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he had owned businesses in the city, owned

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Speaker 1: companies or whatever. He was real connected in the city.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, take me to somebody that could make

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Speaker 1: me a beat and they could record me. I want

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Speaker 1: all my beats to be original. I want to start rapping.

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Speaker 1: I want to make a mixtape, but I want all

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Speaker 1: the original beats'ma pay him whatever you want, but I

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Speaker 1: want to own the songs.

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Speaker 2: I want to be mine.

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Speaker 1: And he took me to this guy may beat in

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Speaker 1: front of me, overcharged me like a month. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but you know you got to pay

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Speaker 1: the play, you know what I'm saying. And from there,

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Speaker 1: I just hit the ground run and it ain't stop.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I just wanted the first time you

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Speaker 5: go in the booth, because you said you'd never really done.

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Speaker 5: It was it were you writing? Was it freestyling?

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Speaker 2: Like what? I never wrote? I never wrote the song?

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Speaker 5: And so the first time you go in there, did

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Speaker 5: you hit it right away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The very first song I made, actually the very first

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Speaker 1: song I ever made, It was called Baby Jesus. I

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Speaker 1: ended up that ended up being the first hit record

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Speaker 1: that I ever made, and was pushing in the city

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Speaker 1: on the DJ is to play first song never been.

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Speaker 1: The first song ever made, was the first song that

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Speaker 1: ever got. It got played on the radio. So when

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Speaker 1: I think of my house, it was like, I react,

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Speaker 1: I heard myself on radio. Was the first song I

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Speaker 5: And how's that guy reacting? Because you're going in there

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Speaker 5: going I had never done this before, Right, he's overcharging you.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's first and I mean, and he'll

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Speaker 1: tell you it's crazy that you asks. Because I reconnected

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Speaker 1: with him, we've been working. We actually got some of

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Speaker 1: the songs. I got one or two of the records

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Speaker 1: I got coming out, made the third he produced them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I reconnected with him, and I've been working on my

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Speaker 1: documentary that'll be coming out either the very top of

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Speaker 1: next year, you get what I'm saying, or towards the

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Speaker 1: was honest about it, Like yeah, first, like I ain't

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Speaker 1: really take them serious because coming from where I come from,

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Speaker 1: I'm still the only artist to pop out of Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: So you know, he'd probably take it, you know, the

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Speaker 1: same way he take everybody else.

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Speaker 2: So the majority of the people.

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Speaker 1: That's just running around playing, not taking a serious, not marketing,

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Speaker 1: and they set the correct way, not investing in they

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Speaker 1: like I was doing all that off the rip, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know, out his own mouth,

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Speaker 1: he ain't take me serious, nowhere near as serious as

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Speaker 1: I took myself, you know what I'm saying, Like you

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Speaker 1: nowhere nearest. Then he heard the sound or later on

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Speaker 1: he found out like damn, this man ain't playing. But

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Speaker 1: by that time I was going and I reached back

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Speaker 1: out like right when I popped me. He said it

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Speaker 1: in his interview I reached back out. He still was

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So, when did you realize

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Speaker 2: To man? They hit me probably way later. I ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna lie I mean famous or.

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Speaker 1: Because I still a moving around, Like I go to

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Speaker 1: Whole Foods every other day, by my own groceries, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I still pump my own I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, people be trying to tell me, like what

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Speaker 1: you're doing in here, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: like the famous part of it, probably like when when

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Speaker 1: I start when I started getting like different reactions to

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Speaker 1: Like when I saw that I couldn't, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, sneeze without offending somebody something like, that's probably when.

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Speaker 2: It hit me. Hit me.

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Speaker 1: I probably knew I was famous though the first time

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Speaker 1: I came around that corner and all them people were

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's levels to it.

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Speaker 1: And I definitely ain't let like the early fame like

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Speaker 1: Like I stayed down, you know what I mean, kept

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I had to get brought

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Speaker 2: to an abrupt stop to sit down. I ain't down,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: From the moment I saw you know what I mean

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Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel, I took off,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, straight towards it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, somewhere along the lines of.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the draw I had with the with

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Speaker 1: the with the live shows, and you know, just the

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Speaker 1: is is fame. I always really lenke more toys, like

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Speaker 1: just my ability to put a smile on somebody's face up,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, make somebody have a good time.

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Speaker 1: I linked towards that. I never really like played on

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Speaker 1: the you know what I'm saying, like I'm this famous guy, like.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like this is what it

443
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Speaker 2: is like. I never really linked in to that side

444
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Speaker 2: of it. Man.

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Speaker 1: I always you know, stay down and you know, stayed

446
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Speaker 1: getting to work. So I would say somewhere between when

447
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Speaker 1: they first you know, start screaming the words word for

448
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Speaker 1: word at them shows, or when it got to the

449
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Speaker 1: point where I get in trouble. If I sneeze and

450
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Speaker 1: hear it, ay boy, and they bring the police in here, well,

451
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Speaker 1: you assaulted them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So get wicked, man.

453
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Speaker 3: This episode, The Big Podcast with Shack is brought to

454
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Speaker 3: you by the General. You know, Shaq loves the General.

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Speaker 3: Before the League, before the Rings, before I got my

456
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Speaker 3: big break, I've been rocking with the General. The General

457
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Speaker 3: has been offering quality coverage for sixty years. And you

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Speaker 3: already know The General was there for Shack when I

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Speaker 3: needed them, low rates and flexible payment options to keep

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Speaker 3: you covered. If you're ready for your big break, you

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Speaker 3: get a quote today. Again, visit the General dot com

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Speaker 3: and get a quote today. And it wouldn't be the

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Speaker 3: Big Podcast without the General.

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Speaker 5: I know you're a hoophead.

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Speaker 2: Earliest I won't say who paid. I'm a fan of

467
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Speaker 2: the sport. Yeah, you're gonna have.

468
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Speaker 5: The earliest earliest. We're not going to ask you trivia questions.

469
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Speaker 5: Earliest memory of this guy for you? Oh, man, earliest

470
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Speaker 5: or the moments that you you go, Man, that's Shack.

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Speaker 2: Earliest memory. Man, I'm this Shack, bro. You know what

472
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

473
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Speaker 1: So I remember what he did, Sam, I probably know

474
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Speaker 1: that movie word for word, bro, Like you know what

475
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Speaker 1: I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Really not for sure? Like I like all the way

477
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Speaker 2: back was the app I remember?

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Speaker 8: Shack kind of makes more sense. I feel like Sazam

479
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Speaker 8: bit off. They mixed Shack with the damn with the movie.

480
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,399
Speaker 8: They bit his style.

481
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Speaker 2: You need to go get your money.

482
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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna get your money, man, I might have

483
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 1: turned onto something Shaq Lawyers y'all tuning in that definitely

484
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Speaker 1: has something to do with him.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason why I downloaded that.

486
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Speaker 1: You just take your name in Kazann God, they can

487
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 1: behind it. They probably should have named it.

488
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Speaker 5: And somebody's like, what was that name of that movie

489
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Speaker 5: with Shaq when he was a genie, which is like

490
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Speaker 5: what Shazam is? Like, what's that song it's.

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Speaker 3: And everybody always saying a.

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Speaker 1: Real life superhero, though, Man, you know what I'm saying,

493
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Speaker 1: real life superhero? You know what I'm saying, So I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not a moment. I can't remember back far enough

495
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Speaker 1: to where he wasn't.

496
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Speaker 2: It's always gonna always know them.

497
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Speaker 1: I always knew of him. So I kind of can't

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Speaker 1: even tell you the moment. You know what I'm saying,

499
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Speaker 1: not that I ain't. I ain't over here tooting your horn.

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Speaker 1: I'm like this real shit.

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Speaker 5: Buble hornets, fanly hornets come on, and.

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Speaker 1: Then y'all don't be letting me shoot the ball. When

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Speaker 1: I had eight court side seats, let me. I'm glad

504
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Speaker 1: you asked me this because I need to speak my

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Speaker 1: piece on a credible on a credible platform. I had

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Speaker 1: eight tickets, eight court side seats. I paid good money

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Speaker 1: for six figures a month for these seats. I had

508
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Speaker 1: two court side seats. I got my mama tuned, and

509
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Speaker 1: I got four for just like I had guests coming

510
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Speaker 1: in the city or whatever I can my mama want

511
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Speaker 1: to bring friends, whatever, eight seats. Majority of the games,

512
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Speaker 1: four of them open. Players come, they see me, they

513
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Speaker 1: recognize me, They roll the ball over to me. Shoot, shoot,

514
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Speaker 1: I get the ball. I try to come out there.

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Speaker 1: They try to come tackle me.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, you're gonna have to go. You shoot that,

517
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Speaker 2: you gotta leave. I'm like, damn, I gave it to me.

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Speaker 1: That's how I say. I can't shoot, Bro, I give

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Speaker 1: it back. Sipping my little drink. I'm sitting back there,

520
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Speaker 1: throw it again. Man, No worry about them. Shoot the ball.

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Speaker 2: I shoot.

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Speaker 1: They come over there, you're gonna You're gonna have to leave,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, no, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: fan of them right now, but I still you know,

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Speaker 1: I love my city. I represent my city.

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Speaker 5: You I'll kick you.

527
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Speaker 2: They didn't know they was going to. They say, dude yourself,

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Speaker 2: do you know who I am? No, I don't be.

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Speaker 2: I told you I don't even be. You know, I

530
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Speaker 2: don't care yet.

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Speaker 5: Like somebody else said, do you know who that is?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

534
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Speaker 1: The players was telling them. You know what I'm saying,

535
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Speaker 1: like it's Lebron and I'm throwing me the ball.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Just gotta watch out. Yeah, I go to that game

538
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Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. They're gonna treat me like the president.

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Speaker 5: They really are.

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Speaker 2: They don't treat me like the president.

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Speaker 5: Atlanta has figured out how to honor court side visitors.

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Speaker 3: They always been like that.

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Speaker 5: But it's just watching everybody, right, now like Young DC,

544
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Speaker 5: like everybody.

545
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Speaker 3: I understand the market and they also understand the culture.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah for sure, and that's important. You know what

547
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, turned up to the max. They got to

548
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Speaker 1: understand it. And at the time, you gotta understand, I'm

549
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Speaker 1: the biggest artist in the world literally like like numbers wise.

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Speaker 2: It's not opinion from Charlotte, the top streaming artists in

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 5: You know, every week it was like and now the

553
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Speaker 5: new top one Son marketing department.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they might need to be fired.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all dropped the ball because y'all could have brought

556
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Speaker 1: in several more dollars, like.

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Speaker 3: Real, Yeah, somebody needed to like that doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 3: You might need to be fired, But.

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Speaker 2: I still hold the team down. Man, It's all love,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: We got well as of the jersey bro I had

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Speaker 5: that starter jacket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like how they let me park in Michael

564
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Speaker 1: Jordan's spot on the ground. But other than that, man,

565
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Speaker 1: ya could have did been a little.

566
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Speaker 3: Bit better rap beef? You ever have rap beef?

567
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Speaker 2: No? I ain't one for that.

568
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Speaker 3: And what do you think about the whole j Cole

569
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Speaker 3: apologizing to Kendrick thing? Like you thought that you think

570
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Speaker 3: that helps or hurts the hip hop culture, not the

571
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Speaker 3: rap culture, the hip hop culture.

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, like really

573
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Speaker 1: really taking in like what I heard, I heard from it,

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Speaker 1: from the snippets of it that I heard, because I

575
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Speaker 1: don't know if I heard like the message did he

576
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Speaker 1: put out on stage in his entirety, but whatever whatever

577
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Speaker 1: I did see, like you know, coming from a person

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Speaker 1: right who's who's also an artist, but a person first,

579
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Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He's a person first. If it affects your spirit, you

581
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And if it don't, you know, if it don't sit

583
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Speaker 1: well with your spirit, because that's what's most important.

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Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So if it ain't sitting well with him, you know,

586
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Speaker 1: then then I feel like you know it, take it.

587
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: Take a certain type of man, a man, a respectable man.

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Speaker 1: You give what I'm saying to leave it where it's

589
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Speaker 1: at right there in the beginning, and not be swayed

590
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Speaker 1: by you know, people on the outside who the second

591
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Speaker 1: something go left, they're gonna jump ship on you anyway.

592
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Speaker 1: So you know, if it ain't sit right with you,

593
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, disrespecting that man or this

594
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Speaker 1: and that man. Then yeah, gone leave it alone now

595
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: before it gets too deep, you know what I'm saying,

596
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Speaker 1: And it gets to a place to where you can't

597
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Speaker 1: or you can't take it back, you.

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Speaker 3: Think it'll ever get back to just competition where like

599
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Speaker 3: for example, check birth the baby, you say something, who

600
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Speaker 3: I say something without me going to Charlotte getting touched

601
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Speaker 3: up for you coming here and like you think it

602
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Speaker 3: ever be trying to get into it with you.

603
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, why don't you think that's what it

604
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: was with them too?

605
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would have not no where, no

606
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Speaker 1: where in my mind, I feel like I would have

607
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Speaker 1: got it just gangster ship.

608
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Speaker 3: I don't That's what I'm saying. But as a fan

609
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: though them two going at it because you know, ain't

610
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Speaker 3: nothing silly happen that have been beautiful to listen?

611
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Speaker 2: No, for sure now music music wise, like don't get

612
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Speaker 2: me wrong, like I was all for it. You get

613
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It really fired me up.

614
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Speaker 1: It had me sitting back like, boy, I wan't want

615
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: to try me bus I can demonstrate you know what

616
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want to wrap I'm like, I'm okay,

617
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Speaker 1: we rapping now, bit you know what I'm saying, Like,

618
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Speaker 1: and a lot of my moments where I come with

619
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Speaker 1: like with like some of the craziest songs, like just

620
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Speaker 1: energy wise or just you know, just just rapping with

621
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Speaker 1: a certain tenacity, it'd be like, it's somebody that made

622
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Speaker 1: me mad somewhere. You get what I'm saying. It's been

623
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: a while since somebody made me mad. So that's you know,

624
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: my music. Not we happen, we vibe the emotion coming.

625
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Speaker 1: You're like, I need to get to the studio.

626
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: You gotta get it out. You know what I'm saying.

627
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: A lot of us that's an outlet.

628
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and me like, it's a

629
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Speaker 1: person who especially people who come from like a certain

630
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: place or you know what I'm saying, or who go

631
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: through certain shit. Even you know where you done grown

632
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: or work to get to, we still go through You

633
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: know I didn't. I didn't went through the worst of

634
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: my experiences at my most successful points in life.

635
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Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.

636
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: So you know that music for people like me and

637
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: I speak for myself like it's therapeutic. You know what

638
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying more than anything, like that's the outlet, you

639
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's why me, like a lot

640
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: of songs when I make like paying music and shit

641
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: like that, like even Rockstar, Like that's a song with

642
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: number one, that's the song. I didn't even really care

643
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: to the fact that everybody in the world knew it.

644
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I started performing it, like because

645
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: I made it during COVID, But by the time COVID

646
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Speaker 1: got off, Like I don't want to talk about how

647
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I felt when I when I was feeling you know

648
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, when I was a year ago hell,

649
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do because I got to

650
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: relive it every time. Or like my brother committed suicide.

651
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: I made an entire EP dedicated to him. And we'll

652
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: be certain places, we'll be out and about and people

653
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: feel that right that that music really touched people, really

654
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Speaker 1: get people.

655
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Speaker 2: Shit.

656
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: Will be out and about at a certain event somewhere,

657
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Speaker 1: people will play a song from it and somebody from

658
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, from Ryma that'll come up

659
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: to them turn it off, like put on something different.

660
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: You don't want to be brought back into that space.

661
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: You get you know what I'm saying, it's a real

662
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: thing for so you know, at the end of the day,

663
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: like like as an artist, you know what I'm saying,

664
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: Like this is the music that's like as you go

665
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: in the studio, there beat that's a blank canvas and

666
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: us using our voice.

667
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: It's like a paint brush, you know what I'm saying.

668
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: And we paint these pictures and you know, we don't

669
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: necessarily want to sit there and stare at them twenty

670
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: four seven. You know what I'm saying, We create the art,

671
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: it does what it does for us. We move on,

672
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: we create more, We create more at the end of

673
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the day. So I don't know, man, for me, that's

674
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: what it is. I speaking from personal experience. For me,

675
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: it's therapeutic, man, more than anything. So the type of

676
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: music I was hearing and you know, and where I

677
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: feel like it could have went because you and when

678
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: you disrespect something that somebody didn't put, it's much work

679
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: into to it. Come with real you know, it's real

680
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: shit to come with that, and it's other It's a

681
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: lot of people, families, it's a lot of families get

682
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: by what they do. So you know, even if that

683
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: person in particular ain't on a certain type of time.

684
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, that you made it.

685
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: You may take food off somebody else's plate, that is,

686
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: did they feed you? Get what I'm saying.

687
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: And that's a real serious person to really do something

688
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: to you about.

689
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about you talk about emotions. Like

690
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 5: the first part about j Cole, other than like the

691
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: apologizing and not sleeping, well yeah, is that he was

692
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: like he got me going and I didn't even realize

693
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 5: it and I couldn't control.

694
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

695
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 5: He was like, I had to get it out. And

696
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 5: that's where that's what I like, forget like the beef

697
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 5: and like you're gonna attack each other. The fact that

698
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 5: you have two people that are so great at a craft,

699
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: that are like, let's just let's just go. Let's just

700
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 5: see what can happen. I want to see how quick

701
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 5: your brain can work, how quickly you can let out

702
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: your emotions, and then at the end we can be

703
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 5: like you fucking got me. But because when he said.

704
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: That, it was like.

705
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was much more. It was much more

706
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: of a sport within the within the business. You know

707
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I would like all rappers to have

708
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: the w w eman DELI yeah.

709
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: Like call like somebody calls him up on the side, like,

710
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 5: let's fucking do this.

711
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't want to speak for y'all, but you

712
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: want to focus on the craft. You don't really want

713
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: to get into all that other ship exact rightly. But

714
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: if people think we're gonna get into the ship, let's

715
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: have a conversation. Let's and let's get it crack. And

716
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: you say something, let me hear first. I like that.

717
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: Just don't say this line and I and we just

718
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: go back and forth.

719
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, crazy you said it something.

720
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: It's like two days after the situation took place, this

721
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: before J Cole apologize. Matter of fact, I got a

722
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: call I won't say from who. I got a call

723
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: from a certain rapper. It's like a lyric a lyricist

724
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: to like a lyricist, you know what I'm saying. I'm

725
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: sure y'all know him about said this now a thousand

726
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: percent y'all know him right and uh and he I

727
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: got a text from him.

728
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: He shot me and takes He's like yo, he like

729
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: hit me. You don't like this? Hit me? You don't

730
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: like this. I called him, like, what up? He like, like,

731
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: what's up with it? How you feeling? I'm good? What's

732
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: up with it? He like? You want to go up?

733
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: How you feel like you want to go up? I'm like,

734
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: what's up?

735
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: Talk to me? He say?

736
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Oh man? All that.

737
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: The back and forth between uh Jacob and Kendrick got

738
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: me fired up. Bro, I feel like we should diss

739
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: each other.

740
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: We cool behind closed doors. We should diss each other,

741
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And we cool, we know

742
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: we cool? The whoop it? Bro?

743
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: I just feel like it just go crazy and y'all

744
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: out of y'all. And I told him, I kind of like,

745
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Responded like the same one.

746
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: I told him.

747
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'm like, I know for a fact

748
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: what that to do, right, But I'm like, at the

749
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: same time, it ain't. It's a little more personal with me,

750
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I wouldn't even I'll get you pay

751
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: certain things about you if I don't really feel a

752
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: certain way about you. You get what I'm saying. And

753
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, that's out of respect for you.

754
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. I'm like, cause it's you know,

755
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: it can go, it can go either which way. Like

756
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: with me, like I'm a you know, you don't really

757
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: want to smoke. It wasn't even that what I was

758
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: telling him, even though I feel like, don't nobody want that?

759
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: And see this beating made the nigga diss me. I'm playing,

760
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: but nah, like it ain't And it definitely wasn't like

761
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: on the rap there. It's just that like to me,

762
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: like this is somebody it's like and that's why, like

763
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: immediately when you're like you get into the rabbit woo,

764
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, not me because like I can't see

765
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I can't see you a person, a person like finding

766
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: every which way to you get what I'm saying. But

767
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: little but little me make me feel some type of

768
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: way offend me and then we still coexist on a

769
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: on a respectable level. Yeah, you gotta disrespect me, You

770
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: got to, and I gotta disrespect you. And I'm not

771
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 1: gonna disrespect nobody that I got respectful like you give

772
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because of because of what comes with

773
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: it on my end, from my world, from the cloth

774
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm cut from.

775
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.

776
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: I told him I'm just like, nah, I said, I

777
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: appreciate you thinking about me reaching out.

778
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

779
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, but nah, bro, like gout of respect

780
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: for you, like I'm gonna pass on that.

781
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: And I came up with the theory because when I

782
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: was a youngster, I always thought the whole Cold and

783
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Andrea John really headed each other, like really right. And

784
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: so when I get drafted the Orlando Magic, they're doing

785
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: something arena and we're doing like this dinner in mine

786
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: and those motherfuckers, the motherfuckers walking together. Bro was ma Bro,

787
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: I was like, the fuck No, I'm telling you that. Yeah, yeah, Bro,

788
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: the motherfuckers walking together, and I'm watching the whole now, like, man,

789
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: I hope these motherfuckers don't tear my house on. They

790
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: laughed and gain so finally I asked one to do.

791
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: I said, Man, that ship ain't real, I said, Oh.

792
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: I was mad as fuck. I was like, Yo, what

793
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: the fuck do you mean it ain't really that shack

794
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: that's acting?

795
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

796
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: I was so mad.

797
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 9: So I think he's doing it too, Bro. I actually

798
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 9: I know it's a difference. You know, I've heard that story,

799
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 9: but your brain, I know how your brain works. I

800
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 9: thought it was real, but as soon as you realized

801
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 9: it wasn't real, I was pissed. But I also know

802
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 9: that you were like, I.

803
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 5: Can use this to my advantage. Okay, So when did

804
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: you start using that? Because I've heard the story before,

805
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 5: but I haven't thought about when Shack went let me

806
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: add that to my marketing arsele all the time? So

807
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 5: what was like the first one in Patrick Ewing David Robinson,

808
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: you just started creating rivalries.

809
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: I hate you motherfuckers. But then when I see him like, man,

810
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: you know it's all I don't want no problem, but.

811
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I see this's the difference. But when they get up

812
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: under the goal, he down there, what he gonna do?

813
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: He's talking what I'm saying. It ain't That's what I'm

814
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I play above a round like, Bro, it ain't nothing

815
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: nice about me, Like when I don't like you, like

816
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I want you to die like I'm it's different you

817
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: like you can't this me and we it ain't gonna

818
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: work like that, like even you know people around me,

819
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: like it ain't gonna when somebody gonna see you, and

820
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: then it ain't gonna you feel me like we can't

821
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: even do that, bro, like, we can't do it like that,

822
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't even you know, I would want to

823
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: now even come from a real place, like I'm all

824
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: about it, Like you get what I'm saying.

825
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Come from a real place.

826
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: Okay, it is what it is, so all right, So

827
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: if shock records off of you, are we doing it?

828
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: That ship done today? I do it right now.

829
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: You gotta mic play the beat. I do this ship

830
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: right now. I'll make it right now. About them a

831
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: column like boy, he shocking them. So they got twenty,

832
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: but they're gonna get me fifteen. I told them, like

833
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: with me, man, it have to come from a real place,

834
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: not about their bag.

835
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's the you w E you don't know this,

836
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm definitely a fan of his music, where

837
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: he comes from and all that. When councel culture attacked him,

838
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: that was the first reason the first person hit him out.

839
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Literally the first person told me, and I told him,

840
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: this too shall pass a little pass like you know,

841
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: like also told when you when you get to hear

842
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: that's when the people who don't have G fourteen classification,

843
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: but they have a voice because it's social media. Absolutely,

844
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: I think they can say what the fuck they want

845
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: to say. I talked them and said, bro, relax, don't respond,

846
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: this too true. Back shall pass. So how have you

847
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: been since then?

848
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: And I've been good man, I've been I've been holding

849
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: it down. It took me a minute for that to

850
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: really like resonate with me, like throw and through. You

851
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is at the end of the day,

852
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: like I'm a person that's gonna fight for what he

853
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: believe me in.

854
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

855
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: So in any situation, like you know, if I feel

856
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: like I'm being taken out of context of my character,

857
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: is being attacked or or being you know what I'm

858
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: saying described as something that is not like I stand

859
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: on the principles that I stand on, you know what

860
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean.

861
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm also a person that takes my licks I do,

862
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: I do do something.

863
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. If that's what I did,

864
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: If that's what it is, I'm gonna I have no

865
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: problem telling you that.

866
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

867
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: So it was kind of that's what I struggled with

868
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: early on, you know what I'm saying, But since then

869
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: I have definitely you know, I didn't learn, I didn't

870
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: sat sat my ass down, sat back, allowed myself to learn, Okay,

871
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: look this, how this go when you at this level

872
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: and this business. You know what I'm saying, And that

873
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: that go back to your question on when did I

874
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, realize like I was famous,

875
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily famous, but how famous I was, or you

876
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying.

877
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: The fact that I'm an international household name.

878
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, certain things I can't say publicly, like it

879
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: can travel a different way, it can be received a

880
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: different way, you know what I mean. And I definitely

881
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: had enough time to really let that resonate with me

882
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: and grow and you know, mature even more than before.

883
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just back, you know, so much more wise

884
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: and and you know, and hungry all over again. That's

885
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. I love it like I'm hungry

886
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: all over again. But now I got an unlimited amount

887
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: of resources.

888
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.

889
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to figure out where my next meal

890
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: coming from, or go get you know this person house,

891
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: so this person and how go get myself a house?

892
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Get a house and make sure my kid has got

893
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: something if it all go left today, I don't already

894
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: did that so that's like the playing field is even,

895
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's lopsided. You know a lot of people

896
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: think like you know, I'm in a position where like, Okay,

897
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm i gotta come back Like not, bro, I'm blessed.

898
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like where I come from,

899
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Bro, you know what I'm saying, it's a miracles.

900
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at right now. You know, I'm

901
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: coming from a place of gratitude and and you know,

902
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: just hungry and never you know.

903
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. My thing where cancel culture is, where's

904
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: the fucking rule book?

905
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I need to see it because no.

906
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Offense to you. Our language is different than our language, Yeah, definitely. Right.

907
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: So so a lot of time when you say, like

908
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: I used to say a lot of those words that

909
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: you supposed to can't say now, and it weren't they

910
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: were not deemed as the derogatory then. But now if

911
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: you say certain words, it's like like the cancel culture

912
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: comes up. That's why I reach out to them. I'm like, bro,

913
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: that's like you you already hear jealousy kicking in now

914
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: they want to bring you down here. But knowing him

915
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: and knowing this character, I know he's gonna get back

916
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: back up to there. So I'm I'm I'm, I'm definitely

917
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: happy for you. I appreciate that appreciation reaching you can't.

918
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm glad you can't appreciate it.

919
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: You know, Shaq, when a clip of you goes on

920
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 5: the internet, we get a nice little group chat together,

921
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 5: and one was spreading of Matt Barnes telling that story.

922
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: Have you take a look?

923
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 7: Shaq was the funniest dude ever. He used to with

924
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 7: this dude named Lou Amas. I don't know if people know,

925
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 7: but yeah, I remember Lou. They had a back and

926
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 7: forth thing and one time, Bro Shack Jack put lose

927
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 7: mouthpiece in his tights and put it up underneath his nuts.

928
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, big fellow, put it in it.

929
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: Come on, bro, if I'm lying, I'm flying. Everyone knew,

930
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 7: but Lou Shack goes through a whole shoot around with

931
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 7: los mouthpiece under his Nutsack.

932
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: Put it back in his locker.

933
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 7: And then before the game, like coach would be talking

934
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 7: and lose, always someone's gonna kind of get up, put

935
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 7: his mouth and jump around stretch.

936
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: Because he's an energy dude.

937
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 7: Bro, he put that in his mouth. Everyone died laid

938
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 7: out on the ground.

939
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: But what can you? I feel what you say, PG

940
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: throw hands. I feel it. But shack bro it is you.

941
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 7: It might be so ugly, it might be a polite

942
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 7: like listen, shack Man, you gotta put his.

943
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Tires on the flat of something.

944
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 5: Not lou Adminson bro under for an entire Okay, do

945
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: you remember it?

946
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: Yes?

947
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: You do? Hold on?

948
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 7: Hold on?

949
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: What year is this? It's twenty four. I played with

950
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: the Phoenix.

951
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: Eight are we pass the statute of limitation?

952
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're good. So we're good.

953
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 5: We're cleared now.

954
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: Man, No, Me and Lou had this thing where we

955
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: used to go back and forth. So I used to

956
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: mess it in but he was a tough kid, so

957
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: he come back. So one time I had this pretty

958
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: band that I just brought and everybody's looking at me crazy.

959
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: So soon as I opened the door, that ship was

960
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: filled with peanuts.

961
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: He did that to you.

962
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: The whole van was filled with peanuts and I had

963
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: to clean on. Everybody's laughing, and I was like, oh,

964
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: y'all want left for me? Okay, watch this. So one

965
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: day I got to shoot around early and I saw

966
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: it was my piece, and I told everybody, don't nobody

967
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: say nothing. So I just I was trying to put

968
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: it in my thing and it got lost down in

969
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: the area and I couldn't find it. I was like,

970
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know where it's at. And then right before

971
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: I take a shower, I was like, oh, here it is,

972
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: and I just put it back and I told everybody

973
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: I won't fucking say nothing.

974
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: And then and so the moment happens, he put it

975
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: in his.

976
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: About before pregame and the coaches are talking and everybody

977
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: just start cracking out. I just told everybody, don't say nothing.

978
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: And he actually wore the whole game.

979
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: No.

980
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I thought the story that you were going to

981
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: be like, nah, bro, my bad the whole game.

982
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I told him about the game. I said, hey, man,

983
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 3: the way you play was nuts. So today you played

984
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: with a lot of.

985
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: Balls to the wall.

986
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it was great.

987
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: So he found out after the game he found out.

988
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: Then how did he react when he found out?

989
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: Then he quit? He said, man, you win, you win.

990
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, I win.

991
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: Oh. So that ended the feud, of course, So they

992
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: they in that video, we're saying, what are you going

993
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: to do with that shack man.

994
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: I am the fit. He's into the NBA. You messed

995
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: with me, and I'm coming for you.

996
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: They said, you can't do anything because it's shacked.

997
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because why because I was known to touch people

998
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 3: up in Lockholm if they tried, if they didn't obey

999
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: the rules. You gotta understand when I come in there's

1000
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: only one chief period. I remember when I first got

1001
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: to Atlanta matter Scott's, I was like, oh man, you

1002
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: need to lift these bags. I say, you got me

1003
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: fucked up. But even Phoenix, yes, I am bro. Any

1004
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: team I played for, I was the man. The only

1005
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: team I wasn't the man for. I relinquished my position

1006
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: when I got to Miami because I was older and

1007
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: I was tired.

1008
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: What about Cleveland and Boston?

1009
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: Well, no, Cleveland. Actually, Lebron was probably the best leader,

1010
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: young leader I've seen, and I was kind of jealous

1011
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: of him because he got to do stuff I can

1012
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: never do. Like Coach would be like, hey man, we're

1013
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: practicing the ten, Lebron, but now we practicing twelve. All right,

1014
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: practice the twelve? And I was like, god damn. Like

1015
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: he get to bring his family members on the plane

1016
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: and people on the plane. So I was like, I've

1017
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: been a man for a long time. I never really

1018
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: had this much power. So but Cleveland Boston though, because

1019
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: I was older, you know my way, but any other team,

1020
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: it was my way, well the fist way, all right.

1021
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: So then I have two things because I want to

1022
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 5: get back to that lebron because I have never heard

1023
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: you talk about that before. But in terms of people

1024
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: stepping to you, do you remember the first time somebody thought,

1025
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: oh I can I can confront Shack as he's a.

1026
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: Lot of time see me and Scott. Scott has had

1027
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: a brawl one time in La because listen it was

1028
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: it wasn't no secret. I was a party animal. But

1029
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: I can party because I don't drink as will perform.

1030
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: So we in La one day and we got three

1031
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: days off and we're practicing. I'm like, we went to

1032
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: a Magic Johnson party that before, so I'm not doing

1033
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: nothing in practice. Someday I'm like, yeo, shoot, and the

1034
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: Scott's got get up. You're making all this money. You

1035
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: I can like a DeVoe like Scott, you better get

1036
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: out my face. So he charged me, So I just

1037
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: stepped back, took his little head, push it down. He

1038
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: went to upper call Bah and then Larry Kostroviac try

1039
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: to jump on my back. De Scott jumped on his

1040
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: back and that was That was just one of lebros.

1041
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: I can't talk about the Laker brawls because the Statue

1042
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: of Limitations isn't up yet.

1043
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: That will be season two of the Big Pod when

1044
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: the Statute of Limitation ends and we get to you.

1045
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Remember you remember when you Donna's Haslan was here. Yeah,

1046
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: Rookie Derel was talking me and was fighting Neked in

1047
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: the shower and you was like, no, I'm about to

1048
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: break a two nades fighting in the shower, but he

1049
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: just kept talking. I was like, bro, you said something

1050
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: else to me, young fellow, But that's my boy book,

1051
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: do you right?

1052
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 5: Was there ever anybody on any team that it never

1053
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: stepped to you? But you were like you had so

1054
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 5: much Like were you ever on like Metal World, Peace

1055
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 5: or anybody like that that you thought, oh man, this

1056
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: would actually be a crazy fight if it went down.

1057
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't looking for a fight.

1058
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 5: I knew you weren't, so like when you put somebody's

1059
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: mouthpiece in your balls.

1060
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: But that was a joke, man, I'm just playing hard.

1061
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: That's a joke heard person, and it wasn't in my

1062
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: bas it was under my boss.

1063
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 5: True.

1064
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you can't put nothing in your balls under all right,

1065
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: I don't want you to.

1066
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 5: The lebron thing. So what did what did you think

1067
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: about playing with a was going to be like? And

1068
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 5: then what was it like when you actually got there?

1069
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: I wish we album could would have met two years earlier?

1070
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: Was there actually at number one? We were a number one?

1071
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: See number one in the playoffs?

1072
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a role player and then fucking big

1073
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: baby broke my hand so I had to sit out

1074
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: six weeks. And then when I came back, I was

1075
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: all out of rhythm, out of shape, and we lost

1076
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: to Boston. But I think about have met him two

1077
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: years earlier. We definitely could have won, definitely. But again,

1078
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: like as I said, when we were there, we were

1079
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: number one of these nobody could beat us, but you know,

1080
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: out of the lineup, back in the lineup, and we

1081
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: just didn't have the rhythm.

1082
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 5: What was it like letting him be the leader?

1083
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: He was actually really good at it. I mean like

1084
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: like you can't do that everywhere, like he's brown. I

1085
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm a shocked, but I'm I'm the shock

1086
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: that has ruled many continents in his own way out,

1087
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: so I'm just really coming in to be an advisor

1088
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: to him. Never had to say anything like the way

1089
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: he rules actually actually perfect. And again he had so

1090
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: much power in that organization, power that I never had.

1091
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, man, I wish I thought of that,

1092
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, I wish I could do that. But it

1093
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: was really good to play with a really great guy,

1094
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: really great player. If you open, he gonna get a T.

1095
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: He gonna get a T. So that's why you know,

1096
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: when they talk about Lebron being one of the best ever,

1097
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: I do agree. But you know, the numbers will always be,

1098
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: you know, skew, whether who's one, two, or three. And

1099
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: it's a great conversation to be in. Like I wish

1100
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: I was in that goat conversation. But I realized that

1101
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: life is about category. So I own many categories when

1102
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: it comes to the NBA, but I wish I was

1103
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: in that greatest of all time.

1104
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 5: Category when you come to a new team because you're

1105
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 5: so big, you're bigger than life. Is it like on

1106
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: somebody like Lebron to kind of establish how everything works?

1107
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: Well? When I was younger. It was it was corporate takeovers.

1108
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: It was cool, So I don't care who was Like

1109
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: when I got to the Lakers, it was Nick van

1110
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: that so Edie knows. God, this my shit exactly. It

1111
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: ain't nothing talking about this my shoe. When I got

1112
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: to Orlando, no more one pick all the old guys,

1113
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 3: no really other big names. So this is my ship.

1114
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: You know.

1115
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: When I got to Phoenix, I just kind of, you know,

1116
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: fizzled in. When I got to Miami, this is my ship. However,

1117
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: young fellas a special kind of player. It's sure, shit.

1118
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: If you need me, I'll be on Star Olant.

1119
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 5: I like this. You really have played with some great players. Well,

1120
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: you're good at scouting talent.

1121
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: That's what I do. Maybe that's why I got four.

1122
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: I love that GM.

1123
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: Was there ever a prank that you regretted?

1124
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: I can't tell you. We'll have d Scott come on

1125
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: podcasts and tell you magic. One time I went to

1126
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: the bathroom and something happened with some tissue and the

1127
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: shoe and guy played in it the whole game.

1128
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 5: I'm realizing now that if I ever get pranked by Shack,

1129
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm not going to find out for hours he's been.

1130
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: By the way, you've been sitting in my ship for

1131
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: the last two hours on the chair like what I

1132
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 5: am a prankster. Baby pillow was filled with my dogs urine.

1133
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was one guy.

1134
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: Yes, I didn't do it, thank you, cousin Kenny.

1135
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: It was one guy who kept bothering us in LA.

1136
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: I think it was a video game guy and he

1137
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: he had this Ferrari so he would come by and

1138
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: show off. So he leaves and then he come back

1139
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: and he said, hey man, somebody put shit in my Ferrari.

1140
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: So one of my guys said, hey man, maybe a

1141
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 3: dog climbed in. There ain't no fucking dog na climb

1142
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: in a for Ferrari. Take shit. Somebody put a big

1143
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: piece of shit right in the middle of his Everybody,

1144
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: I don't know who did it.

1145
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: Because you helped build the kingdom that is the Lakers Kingdom.

1146
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 5: Anytime something's going on with that team, people want to

1147
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 5: hear you chime in. As someone that is on Twitter.

1148
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: After every Lakers game, fans are always calling out Darvin Ham.

1149
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 5: When we first started doing this podcast after the n

1150
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 5: season tournament, people were questioning them. Then there's this video.

1151
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen it. Take a look

1152
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 5: where he's talking to the team and they're all walking

1153
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: away fans that one of their biggest issues is like

1154
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 5: substitutions and the teams that he puts out there, sometimes

1155
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: putting out guys and not Ruyachimura who's been successful. Can

1156
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 5: you tell if the team is no longer buying in?

1157
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: First of all, who cares? They weren't paying attention good

1158
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: insight in what way? Like for example, if we've been

1159
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: partners for years, if you tell me we're going over

1160
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: a segment that we rehearsed ten times, you can still

1161
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: talk about. But I already know it exactly. So when

1162
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: he's coming in, he probably called the play fifteen down.

1163
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: They know the play. You don't have to be their

1164
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: old studios like they.

1165
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 5: Know they really set that sCOD They know what you

1166
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: got to do.

1167
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: So I can take that both ways. Okay, great question.

1168
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: They're either like man, I don't want to hear that,

1169
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: and I've been like that a lot of times. I'm

1170
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: out Like Coach used to call the players, be like, man,

1171
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: fuck that we not run that. We don't run it,

1172
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: and get the ball to me. They're gonna double. I'm

1173
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: gonna look for Kobe first, hopefully he swings it, and

1174
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: whoever got the shot, take the fucking shot. We're not

1175
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: running that fucking play. So, like you you have to

1176
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: do that sometimes and then you know other times he

1177
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: already said to play. We know to play. Now you

1178
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: got to get your thoughts together, like damn, I went

1179
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: baseline right and work maybe if I go bet, like

1180
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: you gotta get your thoughts together, like every team does that.

1181
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 5: Like you know, then what are in your mind? You're like,

1182
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: what are the signs you're looking for to see if

1183
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: a team is no longer buying in?

1184
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: Is it?

1185
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: Certain types of quotes in a press conference, like what

1186
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 5: could we look for to actually know and not overread something?

1187
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, I'm always looking at the coach, you know. My

1188
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: favorite statement is if the general doesn't panic and the

1189
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: troops to him panick. If you if your team goes

1190
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: on a run, if the other team goes on a

1191
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: run and you call a timeout, that's telling me yourself

1192
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: you don't have company in your team. Phil Jacksons always

1193
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: look at us like, I'm not calling the fucking timeout.

1194
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: Figure it out. So that's the first thing I'm looking for.

1195
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: Second thing I'm looking for is you know, when it's

1196
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: an out of bound situation where a bucket is needed.

1197
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the play call, like Okay, did he

1198
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: call the right play? Did they execute the play? That

1199
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: will tell me if the players really have respect for

1200
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: what he's calling and if they really want to you know,

1201
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: win or on. So I look at a lot of things,

1202
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: but like that that little clue like you can listen, Yeah, yeah,

1203
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: you can find that clip on any team. And then

1204
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: you know the teams that's really really studious and paying attention,

1205
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: they're not the top teams anyway, because the top teams

1206
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: that have top players, we are going to do what

1207
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: the hell we want to do anyway, Despite what the.

1208
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 5: I was going to say, there are times this year

1209
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: where I'll watch the Celtics and they're all kind of

1210
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: in their own world. And sometimes it might be Drew

1211
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: Holliday talking to them, like you'll see the players sometimes

1212
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 5: take that over too. You're right, because it's I mean,

1213
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: these are grown men. We're not in college. You know,

1214
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: this isn't a classroom anymore.

1215
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: Then you practice and they shoot around so and this

1216
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: is going into the playoffs. The muscle memory is there

1217
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: when you call the player already know what I got

1218
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: to do. I don't have to sit there the whole

1219
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: sixty second time on what you draw to play. I

1220
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: know the play now. I got to get into my

1221
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: own thoughts. Okay, if I try to set the screen

1222
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: on Joker, he may run through it. He got five files.

1223
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: Maybe if I set the screen, get there early, and

1224
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: he hit me, he can file out like like you

1225
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: have to. You don't think about different things. You just

1226
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: can't be sitting there and going.

1227
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: The other The follow up Lakers question is do you

1228
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: think Darvinham will be there more long term or do

1229
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: you think it might be coming to an end? What's

1230
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: your vibe.

1231
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't like talking about coaches. I don't know. I

1232
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 3: don't have any idea. However, if the Lakers lose, changes

1233
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: will be made. I know that for a fact.

1234
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 5: That's just the way the Lakers operate. They don't accept

1235
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 5: that stuff.

1236
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: That's that's just the way they operate. You know, this

1237
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: storied franchise, historical franchise, and we're used to winning. We're

1238
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: all about winning. And you know, ever since that Bubble

1239
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Championship has been got up and down. So changes will

1240
00:48:50,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: definitely be made. Yeah, Charlotte Hornet Marketing Department. Somebody need

1241
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: to be fired.