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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I had to shovel Sunday and Monday, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Chillett's Stadium

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Speaker 1: and the gangs all back. Eric's back feeling better. I'm back. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how are we doing? Eric? Okay, you're talking to your mother?

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Speaker 1: Yeah every day. You weren't mad that she got you sick.

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Speaker 1: feel like talking about, you know, but no new news

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Speaker 1: in terms of coaching and any of that. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thing too, that I mean using it as a jumping

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Speaker 1: off point four discussion. Um, you know, it's just schematically

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what everybody's you know, you're kind

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Speaker 1: of prisoners of that last game and Devin Lloyd and

425
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Speaker 1: we need these like a mobile linebacker and that'll fix

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Speaker 1: all the problems. I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it will I and maybe they need to adjust things

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And but if there's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: any defensive personnel changes, then it's it seems like it's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be well along what we've seen. And I

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Speaker 1: think just catching up on some of the the mock

432
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Speaker 1: drafts that have come out, I think ESPN had a

433
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Speaker 1: couple of their you know, mcshan and Kuiper had their

434
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Speaker 1: mocks come out and they both had cornerbacks and then

435
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Speaker 1: come into New England in the first round. Okay, yeah, fine, Yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that too. Yeah, because they need help there.

437
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Speaker 1: Like Paul said, they hardly have you know, anybodies at

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Speaker 1: that start of the one part about what Reese wrote

439
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Speaker 1: about the linebacker, and I know that, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Mike's Mike said, like he focuses on Logan Wilson, who

441
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Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest, a lot of people probably

442
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Speaker 1: never even heard of until the playoffs, even though he's

443
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Speaker 1: been a good player for the for the Bengals. But

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Speaker 1: I just think that his skill set and his you know,

445
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Speaker 1: his his numbers, his physical numbers is in the same

446
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Speaker 1: kind of range size wise and weight wise is is Uja.

447
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Speaker 1: He plays that kind of style. I just don't see

448
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Speaker 1: Jay as being a guy who's going to contribute in

449
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Speaker 1: the you know, in coverage. I think going forward, moving

450
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Speaker 1: toward the line of scrimmage. I think I made this

451
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Speaker 1: point during the summer when Zoe Um you know, famously

452
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Speaker 1: said that's a good point, Paul, that that Matt plays

453
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Speaker 1: all the time. He when he's going forward, I think

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Speaker 1: he can be disruptive. And I think that he has

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Speaker 1: a knack of rushing the passer. Let's let's sort of

456
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Speaker 1: take the reins off a little bit in pigeonhole. Guys,

457
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Speaker 1: if that's what they do, if they can do something,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to be Lawrence Taylor rushing the passer.

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Speaker 1: They can still be contributing rushing the passer. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that we necessarily need to look at a guy

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Speaker 1: who does everything. Well, yeah, I feel like that's what

462
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Speaker 1: they're certain. I think Bill again, I'm thinking, I think,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, I preface that because we all do you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't. We're not. We don't want to come across

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Speaker 1: we're ing more about football than But I think Bill

466
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Speaker 1: projects and he's like when he looks at a team

467
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Speaker 1: and dissects their film. He looks for every weakness on

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Speaker 1: that team, and so when a guy can only do

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Speaker 1: one thing, he looks at that as a weakness when

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Speaker 1: he's on the field, and he just assumes, because he

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Speaker 1: does it, every other coach is going to say, Oucha's

472
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Speaker 1: out there, let's let's run the ball because he can't

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Speaker 1: tackle worth beans, you know. And I think he just

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Speaker 1: projects that way, and he just feels so, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: has such discomfort having guys out there that can't play both,

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Speaker 1: you know, to a certain level. Yeah, you know. I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: there's only so many of those guys though, I know,

478
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Speaker 1: and that's I know, but he you know, I think

479
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Speaker 1: it's very few and far between where he'll put a

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Speaker 1: guy out there that can only do one thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's what I wonder. And this is

482
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Speaker 1: probably the big kind of picture of it all. If

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Speaker 1: the final act of Bill Belichick is just expecting too

484
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Speaker 1: much out of these players and not being able to

485
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Speaker 1: get everything he needs out of guys like he used to.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what changed, if it's the type

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Speaker 1: of players, or you know, if his expectations changed, but

488
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Speaker 1: it just seems like on both sides the ball. The

489
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Speaker 1: last five years, four or three, four or five years,

490
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Speaker 1: they just had trouble being able to find the players

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Speaker 1: that can do what they want to do. And I

492
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Speaker 1: think that's, you know, part of the point with with

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Speaker 1: Reese and with the offense, the offense offense, Is it

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Speaker 1: time to dumb things down a little bit? Is it

495
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Speaker 1: time to you know? And then and it's it's just

496
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Speaker 1: such a weird conversation to have, like I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say it that way of like dumb it down,

498
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Speaker 1: but it's just if you can't find guys to do

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Speaker 1: what you want to do and you cannot create a

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Speaker 1: team that you want to create, I think you have

501
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Speaker 1: to adjust what you're looking for and how you're trying

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Speaker 1: to go about it. And you know, I know this

503
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Speaker 1: year was a little bit of a bounce back from

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Speaker 1: what we saw last year, but but not that much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was still a lot of

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Speaker 1: the same elements that we saw, especially on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. So and that might be the

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Speaker 1: case with Ucha and who knows, Perkins if we ever

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Speaker 1: see him, and maybe Jennings, but with Winovic, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: side with coaching decision there because he just gets out

511
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Speaker 1: of position. You know, he takes the long way to

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Speaker 1: Grandma's house. I do think he's on disciplined. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he gets stoned, you know, right, well what I mean

514
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Speaker 1: like a blocker, you know, um it's a football term.

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Speaker 1: But but but here's like the thing too, like and

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Speaker 1: and Paul, you do the draft, like none of these

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Speaker 1: guys like screen Patriots coming out like in the in

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Speaker 1: the draft. It's not like like, you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at some of these guys. Now when when like linebacker

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Speaker 1: comes out and you see all right, six four two

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Speaker 1: fifty Jennings right like to me was an old school linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like that guy is being phased out

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Speaker 1: of the game, right. And that's and that's my point

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Speaker 1: is then you look at Perkins, Winovich and Uch. None

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Speaker 1: of them really fit that dynamic. All of those especially

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Speaker 1: right He's especially there was a yeah, hand down defensive end,

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Speaker 1: go get the quarterback. Um. And so I think when

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Speaker 1: they took those guys, what does this signify a scheme change?

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Speaker 1: We're spending a high draft pick on a non six

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Speaker 1: three two fifty linebacker does that? But then they draft

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Speaker 1: but then they don't play him. So I it's it's

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Speaker 1: all all confusing, and I just I'm wondering what direction

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Speaker 1: they're going. And this year I think will force that hand.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, I like Reese's

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Speaker 1: Piecealy sparked to me just all that, you know, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You can't cut all these guys

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Speaker 1: and then bring on all new guys. He drafted all

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Speaker 1: these guys. You got to give him a chance at

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Speaker 1: some point. And I mean he even seems a little

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Speaker 1: bit higher on Ronnie Perkins than you know, we didn't

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Speaker 1: see anything Perkins. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not down

542
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Speaker 1: on Ronnie Perkins. I'm just going by what I've seen,

543
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Speaker 1: and that's nothing. Yeah, so I have to think that

544
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Speaker 1: here's where I side with you a little bit. Fred.

545
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Speaker 1: The guys that don't play at all, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's Bill Belichick wasting Lawrence Taylor, right, Like I think

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Speaker 1: he hasn't really seen much from a guy like j Winovich.

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Speaker 1: Those guys that they're in the game plan sometimes they're

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Speaker 1: out of it. Other times I wonder what, you know, what,

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Speaker 1: why why? Yeah Perkins, Anthreny Jennings, they haven't been part

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Speaker 1: of anything at all. Yeah, all right, eight five five

552
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Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket Hutline web radio at Patriot

553
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Speaker 1: dot com. Um So talk about all of that, but

554
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: really anything you want. It's unfiltered off season, so kind

555
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: of in that dead period after the Super Bowl to

556
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Speaker 1: get wild and crazy. What do you guys think? I mean,

557
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm late to this party. But super Bowl it was fine?

558
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Speaker 1: You liked it? Yeah, my my perfectly adequateness. My executive

559
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: summary was the game was good, the halftime was okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the commercials were mah yeah, yeah, sniff, that's it's not

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Speaker 1: bad that I pretty much agree with that. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a game went down on the wire, so

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Speaker 1: it was excitement there. I don't think it was a

564
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Speaker 1: great game. I don't think it was a terrible game.

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Speaker 1: I think that it was fine. No, it was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was fine. It was a fine It was a

567
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Speaker 1: fine game. I thought it was. At one point I

568
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: was thinking, boy, the refs really haven't had any part

569
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Speaker 1: in this game. And then all of a sudden, the

570
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Speaker 1: ball at the end and all of a sudden they're

571
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Speaker 1: calling tiki tax stuff and in the red zone, And

572
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I said to Duce, maybe it wouldn't have mattered. Maybe

573
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Speaker 1: the rams would have scored anyway, but if they held

574
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Speaker 1: them to a field goal, now the Bengals still have

575
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Speaker 1: a lead with less than two minutes to go, and

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00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe that changes things a little bit, and you know,

577
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Speaker 1: who knows what happens at that point. But my favorite

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Speaker 1: commercial was Larry David and the Currency. Yeah, I'm never

579
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Speaker 1: wrong about these things, right, Yeah, I will say pretty good,

580
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Speaker 1: But you're right, it hasn't been a good like past

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Speaker 1: five or so years for commercials. I don't think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the Bengals and just

583
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Speaker 1: like and the more that we've gone out these last

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Speaker 1: few days, I feel like these guys are gonna be

585
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Speaker 1: chasing their tails for they got there this year. But

586
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's just gonna be a grind

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Speaker 1: for them to get back to this position. Why do

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Speaker 1: you think that. I just think they're the Bengals, you know,

589
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: And I hate to like say it that way, but

590
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: we just we need protection. We gotta get him protected.

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00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna whack them all. You're gonna like

592
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Speaker 1: draft this awesome offensive line and then you're gonna lose

593
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase for a year and he you know, and

594
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Speaker 1: he's gonna struggle. It's just gonna be just like with Carson,

595
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: when you thought Carson Palmer and they got something with

596
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Speaker 1: Ochocinko and Hushman Zada and all that, and they just,

597
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, they get to the playoffs. He tears his ac.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it seems like it's all

599
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: lighted up like that. For the Bengals, I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be that. And I think that the Rams.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Rams won the Super Bowl, congratulations to them,

602
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Speaker 1: but there is like they're kind of an uninspiring super

603
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion, if you know what I mean, even to

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Speaker 1: La fans. Yeah, well right, yeah, that's that's different. But

605
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: like the they won all their playoff games and probably

606
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Speaker 1: could have lost any one of them. Yeah, you know

607
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Speaker 1: what I mean. The way they played like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like they were a juggernaut, not like the Rams of

609
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, where you thought, like I must really

610
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Speaker 1: do have like that Rams blind spot. Like I think

611
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: they blew out the Cardinals. I think they blew out

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, and only because of their own ineptitude do

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Speaker 1: they allowed that game to get close. San Francisco. They

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Speaker 1: had a chance to lose. Yeah, this game was all

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Speaker 1: about the offense that they lost during the game, they

616
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Speaker 1: were on the verge of blowing that game. All thought

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Speaker 1: so too. I think they're the best team. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're like gonna go down. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna look at them and say like they're like the

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Speaker 1: old four Patriots, one of the great Super Bowl champions

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Speaker 1: of all time. I don't think you'll look at them

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Speaker 1: like that. But they were one of the two or

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Speaker 1: three best teams in football from start to finish all

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Speaker 1: the year. And I think it's gonna take a little

625
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: while for la fans. I mean, like for us, like

626
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Speaker 1: we had like homegrown guys, you know mcguinnis and Bruskie

627
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Speaker 1: and Brady and you know all our all care about

628
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: sports in Bostons, like these were our guys and you know,

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Speaker 1: right now except for Donald, like they brought guys in.

630
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Speaker 1: If those guys stay for a while, fans, I think fans,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that has anything to do with it.

632
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Speaker 1: You don't, Honest to God, you don't. You don't think

633
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Patriots fans loved like darrelle Revis. No, I think they did.

634
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: But if it was just Darell Reeves. I think it

635
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: would be different, but we had Brady and Edelman and

636
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: these you know, but they're also like Paul said, they're

637
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: not They don't carry out a sports town. Yeah, it's

638
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: like Dooce will tell you the like the the old

639
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: adage about Dodgers games, they get there in the third

640
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: and ding they've gone by the sixth and then and

641
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: each team, each team certainly has and why core of

642
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: fans that that love that team, but because they balanced. Yeah,

643
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: it's just there's so much to do there. But it's

644
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: also you know, like here sports and that's what it

645
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: was another reason why they don't go right, Like where

646
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: is it downtown? Middle of the day? Pass hard pass,

647
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: but like even the sports radio just completely different there.

648
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: It's completely it's not like the drive. Where do you

649
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: stand on on on parades? Parades? Who does love a parade?

650
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: It was little Mikey at the parade. I didn't go

651
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: to any of the parades? Were you not here? Though

652
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: I was here, I was here and you didn't go.

653
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I see. I think that's telling. Yeah, no one was

654
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: a bigger fan than Mike. Yeah, he had a he

655
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: had a I'm loged Belichick's cloth. Yeah, but and he

656
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: didn't find like, I don't think to be fair, the

657
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: criticism that the RAMS fans get for not like, criticize

658
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: RAMS fans for not going to the games, criticize RAMS

659
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: fans for allowing San Francisco to have seventy thirty split

660
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: of fans in the NFC Championship. Don't criticize RAMS fans

661
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: for not going to a Laane parade. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh,

662
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, in fairness, that was kind of specific.

663
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I probably would have been there if I really wanted

664
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: to be, I maybe would have made it work, but

665
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: it was it's too much. It's a crowd, it's for kids.

666
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Seconds for kids. Yeah, all the media members in the Yeah,

667
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: on the duck boat, right, it's Jeff Howe. Oh god.

668
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: But waffle, but it's weird. Somebody posted that it was

669
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: a shot of Glenn Gleason from one of the They

670
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: said somebody threw a waffle at the media thing, and

671
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: it was like Glenn Gleason holding up just like a

672
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: lego ego waffle. Somebody through just through a waffle at

673
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: the media. I mean, is it also could it also

674
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 1: be that a lot of people that live in the

675
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: LA area are transplants, and ye, they don't even like

676
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: they like other teams. That could be that's part of

677
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: it too. It could be the bars are I mean,

678
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: each each team, each college, everybody has their own bar.

679
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: You know, when you'll go on like a Saturday morning

680
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: and like, there's the Michigan bar. They see everybody in Michigan.

681
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Like it always looks like there are people at the

682
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: u USC and UCLA games are like are there are

683
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: they big college? Yeah? Fans yeah, and especially I mean

684
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: bigger than you know, the USC. It's on the camp.

685
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's right there, so it's easier. But I went.

686
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: I went to football games for both those teams. Yeah,

687
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: like like those obviously they have support there, but you know,

688
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: you'll find a mega Dodger fan and then two feet

689
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: later you'll find somebody who doesn't even care. And I mean,

690
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what's what was striking to me when

691
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: I moved back, is you don't really realize it growing

692
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: up here, but it's such a part of Like I

693
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: always make the joke when you have nothing to talk

694
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: about with somebody, you talk about the weather, like Boston,

695
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: you could talk about sports too. Like that's the other

696
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: thing you got nothing to talk about with something like

697
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: everybody has at least some kind of take on what's

698
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: going on with this point there. It's it's hit or miss.

699
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Some people are completely completely disconnected from it. Is the

700
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: insider perspective, yeah, which which you know West Coast apathy.

701
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: The most striking part of it, I think was when

702
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: the Celtics played the Lakers in OH eight in the finals,

703
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: and so then they the disparity between you know, listening

704
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to the radio in LA and how they were talking

705
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: about it, and how their fans were talking about and

706
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: then you know, still having my my one foot back

707
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: here and how they were talking about it. That was

708
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: what was, you know, most striking of just how how

709
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: much here it's just such a light here. It's it's

710
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: in the lifeblood, like you can't wait for the next game,

711
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: ye in all the sports, the big games, Yeah, I don't.

712
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll ever done like that. I

713
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: mean the Lakers, the Lakers probably the closest. That's why

714
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: we're lucky, in all seriousness, We're lucky to do what

715
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: we do in an area that cares about it as

716
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: much as they do. And I also imagine there's an

717
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: element of the front runnerism to LA, like anytime an

718
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: LA team is winning, everybody wants to be seen at

719
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: a at a game. The perfect example was my my

720
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: old boss could not have cared less about hockey Kings

721
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: are in the finals. She's like, I think we're gonna

722
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: go to the Stanley Cup finals tonight, Like you know,

723
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the sports Like just like that they're like, oh,

724
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: we should go see. I guess they're gonna win the

725
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: trophy yea. But also being like enough that you could

726
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: just be like, right, I think the finals tonight. I'll

727
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: drop a g on a game that I don't have

728
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: any in trade, something to do. All right, five five

729
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket, hut lion. Let's get to it.

730
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: Will Williams and Philham. What's up, William? What's going on

731
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: for it? Hey? Hey? How you going on? Um? Well,

732
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: first of all, Eric Hope, I'm glad you're okay and whatnot?

733
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you sir, Yeah, so you too appreciate

734
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: Give him the link to your go fund meach page.

735
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: All right, So, um, if you're working on that one

736
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: for three days, here name Tom mcshade. That does the

737
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: draft and whatnot. He's one of them. Yeah, I'll see

738
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: who we got taken. Kyle uh, the Kyl Gordon from Washington,

739
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon. Okay, I will pick another point. I mean

740
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: I would get him in the second round. Honestly, I

741
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: like Trent mcduffy um uh. It's a mind gardener. But

742
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: that's another you know, he's too far. He's probably gone

743
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: way earlyis doing things. My main top I'm calling for

744
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: is just wide receiver, and I just I just need

745
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: y'all listen to me for a minute. I already know

746
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: how y'all could be a mansion basically just rowing your

747
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: eyes about it. But Paul, you talked about it Tuesday

748
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: and you said you don't want to receive in the

749
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 1: first round. So let me just let me just open

750
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: your eyes a little bit. Okay, at some point, when

751
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: do you address this position? I know I call it

752
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: see and I talked about it a lot, and I

753
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: just want to open your eyes just a minute. Fellas,

754
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Just like y'all say the receiver core is not a need.

755
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: It's oh I think it's a need. I didn't I

756
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: never said I think I think. All right, all right, Okay,

757
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: all right, so I think it, but I think it's

758
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: a big need, right like Okay, So it's like this,

759
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: I think we all can agree basically, na kill, Harry's gone,

760
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Gunner's gone. Uh, Jakobe Myers is a free agent. Nelson Aguilar,

761
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: he might be gone until that only person on your

762
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: rosters that you're gonna have is Kendrick Borne. That pinned

763
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: it out. So my question is to you, Paul, you

764
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: know you don't want to receiver in the first round. Okay.

765
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: So and also another topic two with that, when I

766
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: touched with the follows there which was fred Eric and Mike,

767
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: and I told Hi about Jameson Williams. Now they laughed

768
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: it off whatever, but I want you to hear me

769
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: on this part there. Jamison Williams is a top ten pick. Okay,

770
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: if he had to, if he didn't have that torn

771
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: acl Okay, he's gone, He's off the board. Would never

772
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: see him because of that torn a cl though that

773
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: plays the partner pushed it down for the patients have

774
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: a chance to get them. They gotta get past the

775
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Saint Yeah, you're past the Saint Cleveland and the Philaephia Eagles.

776
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Of course, my thing is when felt I'm trying to

777
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm start saying when fells, I'm like you didn't once,

778
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: we didn't want to do it. Last year we got

779
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Trade Nixon. We don't know what he is. He's a

780
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: seventh round pick because the gentleman picked him, because he's retired,

781
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: because Bill gave it to him. Okay, whenever, fine, but

782
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: why we keep passing up on this? And this is

783
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: why you get calls like me Eldred and probably a

784
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: lot of other callers that were just like, we need

785
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: we need receivers like we need those dogs. Man, those

786
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: guys that's gonna you know that outside receiver in that slot.

787
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: So my thing to you is, don't get me wrong.

788
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I want the linebacker position. Take here, the corner, the

789
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: defensive line. Okay, I'm with y'all all on that. But

790
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: my question always will always be when when you know

791
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, when stay two picking the wrong challenge

792
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: and stop making it so hard, because day two would

793
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: be my answer when I would I would do it

794
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: in day two. I don't. I don't want to ignore three.

795
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get a guy like Williams looking for

796
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: at number forty three or whatever? I will get a

797
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: guy who will do more in twenty twenty two than

798
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Williams will in the Round two. I don't think Williams

799
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: is going to give you much next year. Yeah, so

800
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: if you're content to just kick the season, then sure,

801
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: if you think that Williams is that good that he's worth,

802
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, waiting a year for I wouldn't kill them

803
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: for that. I just think they have more pressing needs.

804
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why I like the Day

805
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: two wide receiver is doesn't make me right, but I

806
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: feel like that annually is the deepest position in the draft.

807
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: I think there are more good wide receivers in every

808
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: draft than any other position. So I can get the

809
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: fifteenth wide receiver somewhere, you know, in the middle to

810
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: the end of the second round. Who I think? I mean,

811
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: would you rather have Terry McLaurin or Hollywood Brown? Terry,

812
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Terry McLaurin. He was a Day two pick.

813
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown was a first round pick around where you're

814
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: going to be picking, by the way, So and now listen,

815
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: would I'd rather have Justin Jefferson than Terry McLaurin. I'd

816
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: rather have Justin Jefferson another guy. So I want to

817
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: be fair. I'm going to give you examples off the

818
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: top of my head from both sides. I just impressed

819
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: myself with that. By the way, that's Fred's guy, justin Jefferson.

820
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: Fred loved just to Jefferson. So to your point, William,

821
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be complaining about using a

822
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: first round pick on a wide receiver. I had it

823
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: been a guy like that, Yeah, you know, And that's

824
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: where William's coming from, So I see it. I do

825
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: think it's a big need. Yeah, they need a playmaking

826
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver, not just a guy to fill a role. Yeah,

827
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: and I and I agree with that. I think, you know.

828
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: The point that I think he was referring to is that,

829
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, and what he laid out. I think Aglore's back,

830
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I know Born's back. Myers is a restricted free agent,

831
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be back. So you got three guys.

832
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I know that that's not enough right now. But you

833
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: need a starting cornerback, you need a starting right tackle,

834
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: you need a starting left guard. So this is that's

835
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: what you're kind of comparing it to. It's all right,

836
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: you would you rather draft a cornerback who's going to

837
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: come in at twenty one and start and play right away,

838
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: or do you want to wait a year for Jamison Williams,

839
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: who you know, maybe yeah, down the line is going

840
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: to be better, But meanwhile you're gonna be trying to

841
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: figure it out at cornerback. So it's a balancing act.

842
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: I agree with the general point. I'm I'm with Paul.

843
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: I think that that your point about every year, these

844
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: are so deep. You can go right down the list,

845
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: um of all these guys, Christal Lave I know he's

846
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: got tons of fans out there as well, UM, Garret Wilson,

847
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: the guy from Ohio State that I that I might

848
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: be my favorite. Um, you know, as we're getting into these,

849
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: but this it's deep. There's guys, there's guys there, and

850
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: I think that you know, everybody's gonna have some issues,

851
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of needs and that's it's hard

852
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: to balance. And you know, I just you guys have

853
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: been doing this longer than I have, and I've always

854
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: felt like it's just every year, everybody wants a wide receiver.

855
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: Every year, for the most part, what you got people

856
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: want and they did take one and they didn't look out.

857
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: People want shiny objects, people want skill guys that they

858
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: can quantify. Yeah, and I and I get that. I

859
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: do too well, you knee. I mean, I like I

860
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: need him. How many times have I told you do

861
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: your offensive line in your own time? If they take

862
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: a tackle at twenty one, I will not argue unless

863
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: it's like the seventh tackle taken, right. I don't want

864
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: to do that either. But you know, this is supposedly

865
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: a reasonably strong class of offense tackles. I know a

866
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: couple of them have a chance. One of them is

867
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: gonna might go number one overall, the kid from Alabama. Right,

868
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: So if you could somehow get like the third or

869
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: fourth tackle and he's sliding and he's in the middle

870
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: of the teams and they moved up to get them,

871
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to that, right, And I don't

872
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: you know me, I just plug somebody out and getting away.

873
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: And certainly not the people who call in and write

874
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: all year about how much they hate Isaiah Win should

875
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: complain about that either. I mean, this is you know

876
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: you've got there's a chance that you could lose three

877
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: starters off your offensive line. Man, you know, the's a

878
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: really good chance you're gonna lose two because two of

879
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: them are currently free agents and in carras in Trent Brown,

880
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: what if you make a deal for win and you

881
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: send them out, now that could be three and even

882
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: if you don't, it's not a great spot to be

883
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: in when you have an opening at one of your

884
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: starting spots and you have a one year one where

885
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: left on a contract of your other starting spot. Yeah,

886
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: and I don't think they have obvious guys to replace

887
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: him unless you you think of a when you more

888
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: as a tackle, and it doesn't look like they think

889
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, because I think they had a chance

890
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to make him a tackle last year and they didn't

891
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: really love what they saw. Yeah, that's why it was better.

892
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: It just when they went from Light to Solder, when

893
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: they went from uh and the game Voren to James

894
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: White like they in the past, they Solder year by

895
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: the way, right, succession plans that don't really seem to

896
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: be happening anymore now. Solder ended up having to play

897
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: because of injuries. But yeah, you know, like Matt Light

898
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: was still under contract when they drafted Solder, so that

899
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: was like red shirt year Stodder Yep, same with Vereene

900
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: and White, right, I mean that's just that has it

901
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: just doesn't really seem to be that forethought right now,

902
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: like cornerback. You know, there's nobody like that was the

903
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: thing last year. Not not that I would trade Mac

904
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: or Barmore, but you know you'd love to have a

905
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: all right, well, yeah we might lose Jac, but you've

906
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: got a young guy that you could maybe pairfum. That's

907
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: an okay place to start the offseason. We can build,

908
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: We control raft, we can build around that. But there's

909
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: not much there. Let's go to Andrew in La. What's

910
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: up Andrew it Worthy? Hey guys, it's Whitworth right. Hey,

911
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: man got the Santa Claus but here and everything. No.

912
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say because when Mike was talking

913
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: about living in California, I'm a transplant from the East

914
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: Coast with my entire family, and it's like amazes me

915
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: how much like sometimes misguided and wrong, but Bostonian fans

916
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about the sports. But out

917
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: here it's so different, Like I can go up to

918
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: someone and just you know, like casual conversation, I instead

919
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: of talking about the weather, talk about sports. And I

920
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: hardly follow the Lakers or the Clippers or the Dodgers,

921
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: and I know more than like ninety percent of the

922
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: people out here. And I know I'm obsessed with sports,

923
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: but I only know probably a little bit above average

924
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: about sports than the next guy. But it's so shocking

925
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: to me how different it is the cultures and how

926
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: the East Coast is obsessed with sports and out here

927
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: there's so many distractions. And I just it totally spoke

928
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: to me because we both lived out on the West Coast,

929
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: me and Mike, So it's super true. Though. Yeah, I

930
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: had a quick, quick side story. I had a funny experience.

931
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I went to, um, there's a I think it's called

932
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: the NFLPA Bowl. There's like it's one of the like

933
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: lesser known little bowl games that they do, and it

934
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: was one of the first years they did it. They

935
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: did it at that stadium in Carson where the Rams

936
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: or the Chargers had played for a year and so

937
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: before yeah, soccer stadium. So before they did the Bowl,

938
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: they had like a media day, and I was like,

939
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I took the day off work out

940
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: of my little blocks, but I put my blogger hat

941
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: on and I'm like, oh, an opportunity. I have a

942
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: clothing blog. Yeah, So I went down and you know

943
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: there were there were some some notable people there. But

944
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: the funniest part to me, there were these two crazy

945
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Ram fans, like these guys probably in like their fifties, sixties,

946
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: like kind of hippie long like all the old Jerseys everything,

947
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: and they are fired up because they want the Rams

948
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles like you wouldn't believe and I

949
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe it, like these guys, and they're

950
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: like interrupting panels, like solely there for the purpose to

951
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: figure out when the Rams could come back, and these

952
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: guys could have their team back, the first people I

953
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: thought of when the Rams won. But you know, it's

954
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: like they are out there, they are They're all some

955
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: real fans out there. I think there's like behind our

956
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: league hockey teams that have rabid fans and Chard van

957
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Bury treasures Like me and Richard in Northeastern game right exactly,

958
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: we were fired up man Raiders span Yeah, you see

959
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: more Raiders fans out here than like diehard Rams or

960
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Chargers fans. Yeah, I totally forgot about Chargers. I can't imagine.

961
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: But that goes that goes back to I mean that's

962
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: northern California. That's a different animal, isn't it. Well, they

963
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: were there briefly. No, no, No, I'm saying, like I

964
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: think California. If you think of like a diehard California

965
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: sports nation, it would be the Raiders, right yeah, and

966
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: they originated in northern California. So yeah, I wonder is

967
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: it different like that? It's a little bit different the

968
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants and the Raiders in the forty nine ers.

969
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Are they a different breed than southern California. Yeah, I

970
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: got a little more vibe but limited time up in

971
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: the north, but I felt a little bit more like

972
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: it was like southern California. Yeah, yeah, so cal. I mean,

973
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Chargers lasted as long as

974
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: they did, and I'd love to know, you know what

975
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: the what the metrics are for support now in LA

976
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, because nothing, nothing. They had more support

977
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: in San Diego zero point zero on the Richter sk

978
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not making that. I mean that's that's

979
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: like a stadium done in San Diego because that's a

980
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: great four hours from San Diego. So no one's making

981
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: that drive. That was that was the question you always answered,

982
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: How long is it? Two and a half to five hours,

983
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: depends on what, depends on what theme you go. Yeah, hey,

984
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: thanks Andrew. I appreciate the perspective from out there. Patty's

985
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: an ago on what's up? Patty? They called it fan diago, yes,

986
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: which is German? What does that mean? And I won't

987
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: finish that thought, but so UM put me in the

988
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: camp of I definitely want to to you. But that's

989
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: what I've been talking about the last few calls, UM,

990
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: But obviously not knowing what's gonna happen with J. C. Jackson,

991
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they do take a cornerback high with

992
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: their first round pick. But UM, had any of you

993
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: guys seen any any tape on Christian Watson from North

994
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Dakota State at all? No? No, he um crickets if

995
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen highlights when uh and not granted I just

996
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: saw highlights, but like when Trey Lance was their quarterback

997
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and he was throwing them the ball, he looked like good,

998
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: like he could separate. And I don't know, if you

999
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: look at this past year's highlights, he doesn't doesn't look

1000
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: like he's getting much separation. I don't know if it's

1001
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: that got anything to do with him or the quarterbacks

1002
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But I'm just I'm just sort of

1003
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: spitballing because I know I brought up like Metchi and

1004
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: wat Jan Dale Robinson, guys that they could possibly get

1005
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: in the second round, and m I'm I'm with Eldred,

1006
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: I'm with the first call or too. I want to

1007
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: see a guy that can that can make some plays,

1008
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, not just these five yard dump off and

1009
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: do something with it. Yeah, And I've been saying, I

1010
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: feel like nikkil Harry has scared me off a little

1011
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: bit because there's a lot of big receivers in this class. Again,

1012
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: and you know it's just and then you throw it

1013
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: on and it's downfield, contest to catch downfield, contest to

1014
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: catch downfield. You know, Drake London, um Burks from Arkansas,

1015
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: you know a lot of those guys, says Patty. I

1016
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: think that's the that's the place I'm kind of struggling

1017
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: right now, is I want a guy who can get open.

1018
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: I want a guy who's quick that they can move

1019
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: around the formation. If he's you know, Will Williams. I mean,

1020
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't turn any of these guys down, but

1021
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I just think you have to be strategic about it,

1022
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: knowing what we know about what they're going to be

1023
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: asked to do here. And you know who's going to

1024
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: be consistently making plays? Is it? You know the guys

1025
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: who are gonna you're gonna chuck it down the field,

1026
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: like you get it. If it's Jamar Chase, great, like yes,

1027
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes these guys are just big bodies

1028
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: that stretch the field. And I'd rather have a guy

1029
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna catch eighty to one hundred balls and be

1030
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: the go to guy in third down and gotta have

1031
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: it moments. A guy who can shake loose and get

1032
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: open and produce. Yeah, he's describing Jacobe Myers like eight,

1033
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, some odd passes that you know, like, unless

1034
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: he's making plays, I need more than that. Yeah, Like

1035
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: that's my thing. Like I know that everybody has this

1036
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: romantic vision of the offense when the centerpiece was Welker

1037
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: and Brown and Edelman. I don't know that this version

1038
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: of the offense will operate like that. I don't. I

1039
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know that. And I would rather

1040
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: have a guy who makes life a little bit easier

1041
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: on Mac Jones. So instead of having to hit Welker

1042
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: eight times on a drive to get it down inside

1043
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the ten. Maybe I can just catch one yea and

1044
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: pick up a fifty yard chunk with it. I agree

1045
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: with Mike. I don't need an outside, big deep threat.

1046
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: That all he that's all he does. I'm not interested

1047
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: in that. But I am interested in a Jamar Chase

1048
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: who can catch slants and taking the disc. Jamar Chase

1049
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: is not a one trick and he doesn't just go

1050
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: down there. Even those guys like the Bob hayes Is

1051
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: of the past, there's very few of those in the

1052
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: league now, even a Jamar Chase who'll go over the middle.

1053
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's not a deep threat, right

1054
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Like even the deep threats do other things. In today's NFL.

1055
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: He can get deep, but he does a lot of

1056
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: other things, and Bob Hayes I do. Yeah, I don't

1057
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: need a track star. Um. I agree with with Mike

1058
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: on that on that point. I just I am not

1059
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: with everybody else that it has to be the way

1060
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: that they've always done it. They have to get a

1061
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: guy who's more of a traditional slot guy and throw

1062
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: the ball to him every play. I don't need I

1063
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: don't need that unless the guy is great. If if

1064
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: the guy can make all kinds of guys miss and

1065
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: make plays after they catch, fine, But I don't need

1066
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: a guy to catch eighty five passes in averaging nine

1067
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: point six per per reception. I don't need that. Grab

1068
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: that already With Jakobe Myers, Grassie asked Burt on Burton Island.

1069
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: Anyone to know where Burton Island is? You guys are great,

1070
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: but I have a slight complaint. Whether it's Josh or

1071
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: b Flow or any other team news, a lot of

1072
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: times you guys just start in with your takes without

1073
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: first saying what it is that happened. A week or

1074
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: two ago, you all started a pining on the nude

1075
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: to Flake Gates stuff, and I was just thinking, wait,

1076
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: did you just tell me what actually happened first. I

1077
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: don't read a newspaper, and I'm not big on social media,

1078
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: so often I'm relying on humps like you to tell

1079
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: me what's going on in the world, or at least

1080
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: in Patriots Nation. Okay, I was on the island. I mean,

1081
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: you don't know what happened with the flat game. I

1082
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: think he means the recent years, but I think I

1083
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: don't even know what he's talking about, but I think

1084
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: what are we talking? I think about we talk about

1085
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: a topic. We we always start and then we say

1086
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: we should catch everybody up. Yeah, maybe we didn't. I

1087
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: Florio cited uh, you know, you know books by the

1088
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: Way to promote his book. Um, um, that I mentioned

1089
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: that Hee's got a book out. Um you know, okay. Yeah,

1090
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: Florio came out with some stuff about the flake aid

1091
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: and that the league covered stuff up and so correct. Yes,

1092
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought we did talk about that. We did, okay,

1093
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: but you know, feel free to email at the time

1094
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: and say, hey, what are you guys talking about? And

1095
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: maybe he listens after the fact. Oh that could be

1096
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: he could be a podcast listener. Traditional podcast, that's true, um,

1097
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: Alex writes in looking you never heard of that. That's

1098
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: a term I made. Traditional tradition, like in the olden days,

1099
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: when you know podcast like five years ago, a traditional podcast,

1100
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: you know it is not necessarily meant to be listened

1101
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: to live download and they're scripted like half hour to

1102
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Very precise. Doesn't interest me. No, Alex and Pentuckett.

1103
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: I had a thought based on the McVay speculation of

1104
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: him hiring after winning UM one Super Bowl? What reason

1105
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: would a coach have to do that. Bill has been

1106
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: coaching for so long. I don't know fifty million reasons

1107
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: for it. I find it interesting that after one win

1108
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: there's speculation he could retire. Is this a new trend

1109
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: coaches will start to pick up? I would be intrigued

1110
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: to see what you guys think. If you care about it,

1111
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: pay him. Yeah, it's a money thing. I think same

1112
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and his like maybe he already walked

1113
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: at that, his agents pissed at him. Yeah, but what

1114
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: do you know, and I thought we talked about this,

1115
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean some people, you know, speculate

1116
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: mcveigh's got a sweet deal with a network that he could,

1117
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, have to work and if if he doesn't

1118
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: want to coach, he just doesn't have a passion to coach,

1119
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: then that's that's a whole different thing. Yeah. I think

1120
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: this is a money ploy. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Other

1121
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: people speculated that he doesn't see the future of the

1122
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: Rams being that bright. I can assure you that. Okay,

1123
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: yesterday he's like imploring everybody to run it back. Yeah right,

1124
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: there's his favorite expression with that that's Sean McVeigh. I

1125
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: get I'm coming back, and you can hear the dinner

1126
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: of the crowd every time he says, run it back.

1127
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Who are these guys? What are you doing? What is

1128
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: this right now? I mean this is this a kickoff?

1129
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: What are the rams? What is he talking about? Is

1130
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: there a football game going on? What is this? Uh?

1131
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Tony writes in Fred said, sometimes Bill makes a point

1132
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: to a fault. Well, thank god, he would never do

1133
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: that in the Super Bowl if, for example, his best

1134
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: cornerback got into a heated argument with a coach and

1135
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: then other coaches. At least he wouldn't do that. Is

1136
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: that what happened? Yeah, we don't know. So I don't remember.

1137
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: We know we didn't play. It's all speculation. I don't

1138
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: remember much of that game. We were talking about super

1139
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: don't remember much of that game. No, I don't know.

1140
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm back and forth. The last two Super Bowls are

1141
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of a blur in my mind. And meanwhile, like

1142
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I can recall everything in the first, like you know,

1143
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: bunch of them, but it is different when you're working

1144
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: it the last, the last super Bowl, the thirteen to three, right, remember,

1145
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: like not much? Okay, So that that's probably tells me

1146
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: that you know a lot. You probably thought it was

1147
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: kind of a dull game, right, you know, I've gotten

1148
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: asked that before, And I was so in the moment

1149
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: of the tension that it wasn't really boring eliminate. I

1150
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: was eliminate the tension. It's a compi game, and I

1151
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: know that no one cares at all about my low

1152
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: level college boys. The bean Pot championship game the other

1153
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: night was as boring a game as I've watched. I'm

1154
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: still on the edge of my seat. My team's playing

1155
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: for a championship, right. It was nothing. Nothing. Neither side

1156
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: had a sniff of offense for the entire game. It

1157
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: sucked who won? Yeah? What they scored with two minutes left?

1158
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: Fifty eight minutes of scoreless hockey, Like the game could

1159
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: go either way, and it was. I'm telling you, it

1160
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: was as boring as boring could be. Did you throw

1161
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: your diet pepsi? No? It just wasn't, wasn't it. But anyway,

1162
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: I didn't really feel like that Super Bowl was like

1163
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: riveting action other than the fact that it was three

1164
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: to three in the fourth quarter and the Super Bowl

1165
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: is hanging in the bounce right. It felt kind of

1166
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: similar about this game on Sunday. But I got one

1167
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: guy after another that sucked. That sucked, That sucked, Bengals,

1168
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: What are they thinking about? That game sucked? It's funny

1169
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: every time that we talked about it on this show,

1170
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: about the thirteen to three game, and we mentioned that

1171
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: we thought it might have been a little boring. Do

1172
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: you remember how we got attacked? Yeah? What are you

1173
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: talking about? It was really exciting. I thought it was.

1174
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you thought that game

1175
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: was exciting, but you didn't think Sunday was. And I'm

1176
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: not saying I just said, I'm not saying you individual. Well,

1177
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: I know, Eric wasn't. I know you listened to my station.

1178
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: I know you listened to my stations a lot. I'm

1179
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: being accused. No, no, no, not you. I know, but

1180
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: I know you listened to my stations a lot. Don't

1181
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: tell me you didn't hear at one after another that

1182
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: game sucked. That game sucked. People like to complain, but

1183
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: god forbid, you said that the Super Bowl fifty whatever

1184
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: was fifty three was boring. It was a masterpiece of

1185
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: defensive I'm not going to say that, but hunting prowess

1186
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: was awful, Like if you didn't care who won, it

1187
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: was an awful game. I'll bring up an interesting one

1188
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter a little twitt that was going

1189
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 1: on tweets when they fight. Somebody brought up the point

1190
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: of Dante Scarnekia how it was a genius coaching in

1191
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl to eliminate Aaron Donald, to make him

1192
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: a genius, to make him a non factor. Whatever they

1193
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: did was genius, And somebody brought up the point. Yeah,

1194
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: but they did it at a cost. They they had

1195
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: so much effort to eliminate Aaron Donald that they only

1196
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: couldn't score scoring thirteen points. And people just attacked this person.

1197
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: And he wasn't a blue check mark or anybody. They

1198
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: just attacked this person. I was like, hey, that's kind

1199
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: of a good point right now. It worked, so yeah,

1200
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: But I would say the same thing about the Super

1201
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: Bowl in Seattle. Do you know what the number one

1202
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: goal in that Super Bowl was stop Michael Bennett? Yeah?

1203
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: He dominated the game, right, you won? No one cares, right, right,

1204
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: that's I mean. The coaches are not idiots for the

1205
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: most part. Do they make mistakes, They all do, but

1206
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: of course they said. They went into that game and

1207
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: they said, we can't let Aaron Donald dominate this game

1208
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: and disrupt it. But the Rams defense dominated the game

1209
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: and disrupted it. Yeah, just like the Patriots defense dominated

1210
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: the game and disrub Right. Like if if if the

1211
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: Patriots had done everything offensively that they did to you know,

1212
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: defend Donald put up thirteen points and the Rams put

1213
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: up thirty, nobody would be talking about what a genius

1214
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: movement was. But took your Aaron Donald out? Yeah? Right.

1215
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: And you know who had a good game that day,

1216
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: as much as I hate him is Sue. Yeah, he

1217
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: made some plays in that game. Yeah, So I thought

1218
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: it was a decent point by this person, and everyone

1219
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: just attacked him. They're not saying that Dante Scarnecki's plan

1220
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't work, right, it did. You took out Aaron Donald,

1221
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: But at what costs? Right? You know? I feel like

1222
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm on Paul side of the street because I'm like,

1223
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: give credit to Joe Tooney and the offensive line and

1224
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: those guys that that executed. I mean, Dante' what's he

1225
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: drawing up? It's not um and and the same point,

1226
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: the same two of you, and and and despite all times,

1227
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, despite all that, it still came down to

1228
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: one or two plays and easily be to Fred's point,

1229
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: there's ten minutes left in the game and you had

1230
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: three points. So what good is it that you dominated

1231
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? Which, by the way, you didn't dominate him.

1232
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: He just didn't take the game. Old, he just didn't

1233
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: make the two plays he made at the end of

1234
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl, and that's you know, and they made

1235
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: the ground catch that you know that that that's kind

1236
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: of like to Eric's point, if you you know, if

1237
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: you like, there were some games against Houston that they

1238
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: did that to J. J. Watt, but they won the game,

1239
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: like thirty seven to fourteen, right, Okay, that's a little different, yeah,

1240
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: or Clay Matthews or whatever. You know. Yeah, no, I

1241
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: thought I just thought that was interesting, you know, but

1242
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: people just weren't listening to this guy, and you don't

1243
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: know who the guy was. He wasn't a Blue which

1244
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: poor guy got killed. A rational point. The Patriots did

1245
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: an excellent job on Aaron Donald, and that's yeah, I'm

1246
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: not suggesting that there was there was some people defending

1247
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: him finally, but you know, yeah, I just thought it

1248
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: was an interesting discussion, you know, they have people. People

1249
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: don't like to be told something that might go against

1250
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: what they think, and then people can't really take a

1251
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: moment and you can still say it was a great

1252
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: win because you know, your defense held the defense this

1253
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: good team to three. The Patriots dominated. Patriots defense dominated

1254
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, well that's what the game to me was.

1255
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to come down. That's what

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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: you're hanging by a thread, knowing who's gonna make the

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01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: one play that's going to decide this game. And I mean,

1258
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: and they did, you know, Ronk Gronk? Yeah, that's it?

1259
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: Uh jacket and aba? Given what Mike and when you

1260
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: given that he's one of the five Patriots listed in

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: PFF's top one hundred and one players, why wasn't Big

1262
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: Mike a start last season? Do you predict that? And

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: when you will be a starter in twenty twenty two?

1264
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: And if so, what position? That's a good question. I

1265
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: was just writing up the the free agent previews and

1266
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: that was kind of something to dive into because I

1267
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: think he feeds into both Trent Brown's right tackle spot

1268
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: in and Carriss's left guards. I guess his left guard, Yeah,

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: but I don't know who's gonna leave. Maybe Carris stays,

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean Brown leaves. I can make a case for

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 1: Brown in. And so you don't think they'll resign Trent Brown? No, No,

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01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: Why do I just think it's too much? He might

1273
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: be too much. Why wasn't it too much last year? Well,

1274
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: they had more money last year. I was under contract

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: and he was. Yeah, they traded for him so and

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: they had room for so his old contract, right, yeah,

1277
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: And I mean he didn't have a tiny contract. But

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01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean by the way he played half the season again,

1279
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: like that's what he does. I know. But so I

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01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: think he'd be affordable. I think they could take him.

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01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: I'd take both Carris in him back. I would take

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: him back, take him back. That's a different arm. I

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01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: think I don't take him, and I think I think

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01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: I think they both will. I just think they have

1285
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: so many needs that they're going to have to prioritize.

1286
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know how. I think Carris has a

1287
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: chance to come back, but I do too. I Paris,

1288
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: I would cash in because I think he played well.

1289
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he's got value. Trent Brown could be back

1290
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: because I don't think he has any value. Yeah, And

1291
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: that's where I'm at. I mean, he played half the season,

1292
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: He's hurt a lot. He seemed to really like being here.

1293
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: He's been elsewhere, he's gotten paid before, he's really liked it.

1294
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: Anything cash dude too. He looks like he's lazy. I

1295
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: know he's a Patriot. In two months, we can all say,

1296
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: we can all call him lazy. I'll be here for you.

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's lazy. I another story that

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: I heard. You know, there's rumors out there about Tom

1299
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: and Giselle having trouble. I guess, okay magazine had this

1300
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: big again. Yeah. Yeah. But then on the other hand,

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01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: Gronk's girlfriend she's telling him keep playing, and I thought

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: that was interesting. They don't they you know, they're not

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: married yet, they don't have kids. So she's like, no, no, no,

1304
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: keep this thing going. You know, like I'm wondering if

1305
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: she's thinking more about herself than him and telling him, yeah, exactly,

1306
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: my acting career is still doesn't need this. No, she

1307
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: doesn't need she don't need nothing. Yeah, she could sit

1308
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: in the house the rest of her life. She wanted

1309
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: to um Andre from New Jersey going back to the

1310
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I really, I'm really hoping for a Malcolm

1311
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Butler miracle when the Rams threw the ball from the

1312
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: one yard line, but unfortunately didn't work out that way. Now, question,

1313
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: do you think a teams try to follow what the

1314
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Rams did by throwing away picks and going after veteran

1315
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: disgruntled players. Do you think teams will follow that roadmap?

1316
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: I think there's more trading in general than there ever

1317
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: has been. Yeah, among good players. Yeah, I think so.

1318
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean I like that, I do. Yeah. I mean

1319
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, there's risks, and I think

1320
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: it's challenging. I mean, I'm very curious how they how

1321
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: they maintain it. I think the picks that they still

1322
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: have are very very important and they need to keep

1323
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: the pipeline going. And that's what we've seen here. I also,

1324
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, credit Sean McVeigh for I mean, that was

1325
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: what I was joking about during the season, was all

1326
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: these you know, big personalities and bringing them all together,

1327
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: getting them to play their best games. I think that

1328
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: that's tough, and I think a lot of times that

1329
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, backfires where you put together these super teams.

1330
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: But they did a great job managing it, and you know,

1331
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure teams will continue to take the chance. But

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: what I what I don't like is the bloh mentality

1333
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: of all of it, Like, see, that's why you can't

1334
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: do X, and in general terms, it's more than one

1335
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: way to do with those things. The reason that people

1336
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: say it can't work is not the reason it didn't work. Now,

1337
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: there are times where you put together a dream team

1338
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: and the chemistry doesn't work, and that is part of it.

1339
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: But Eagles like trading first round picks to acquire established players.

1340
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: It's not like a foolish way to go about you

1341
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: but you know why it work taking a guy that

1342
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: you know can do it. But you know why it

1343
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: worked is because they hit on enough third and fourth

1344
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: round picks to augment the established stars they had and

1345
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: to make up for the fact that they weren't getting

1346
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: first rounders. So there's a there's like a structure in place.

1347
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: Also with the Patriots can't get Calvin Ridley this offseason,

1348
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: would you take Jalen Rieger likely least um less costly

1349
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: and playing with a better QB and better coach might

1350
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: work out for him? Is he where would that happen?

1351
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: All over? I thought he was still Yeah, he's not

1352
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: he's like a second or something. He's like two years

1353
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: into his deal. Yeah right, he was a he was

1354
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: a free he was a rookie. Remember seeing him at

1355
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: the at the combine. I thought, right, well, he had

1356
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: a great um, he had great joint practices against us.

1357
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: I know he did. I know he didn't have it.

1358
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: I know he didn't have a good year. Well there

1359
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: you go. Maybe they saw him the joint practices. People

1360
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: are gonna have to come to grips with the fact

1361
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is not here anymore because like the

1362
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: whole like, oh he comes with a better quarterback? I mean,

1363
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: is he Yes? Then who whoever hurts yes? H yeah,

1364
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't didn't play over him? Uh? Fron in Hollywood, California? Right, friend,

1365
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: Zimbolist Junior? Yeah, what insights could Patriots unfiltered shair to

1366
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: whats listeners to give Matt grows hiring a three on

1367
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: the Richter scale? Didn't Ziegler have various jobs with the

1368
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: Patriots before being hired for the GM position by the Raiders. Secondly,

1369
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: why isn't Brian Flores being considered as a defensive coordinator

1370
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Hasn't Belichick stressed on numerous occasions that

1371
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: he made moves based on what's best for the Patriots.

1372
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: All Right, A lot to unpack here, right, Why I

1373
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: said it was three on the Richter Scaley you asked me.

1374
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that like his influence on the team

1375
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: or his role. I meant like, as a news story.

1376
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: It's not like breaking news. Matt grow has been element No,

1377
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: like for all we know, it could mean a lot,

1378
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, down you know, for the team. So I

1379
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: was just talking about as a news story. He's been

1380
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: here since I think twenty ten ish somewhere around there,

1381
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: and he's risen up the rank, says many play a

1382
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: personnel people do coaches do in this organization. So now, now,

1383
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: if for the next ten years the Patriots have the

1384
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: best drafts in the NFL, I'll say, okay, that was

1385
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: huge because I would assume that he had a big

1386
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: role in that. You know. Yeah, my fear with Grow

1387
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: as he's been here a while and hadn't really been

1388
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: a manager. This is like the first time he's going

1389
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: to step into a role that he's in and I

1390
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: worry about that for a guy who's been around as

1391
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: long as he has. Guys that were younger than him

1392
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: have left the organization to lead other teams. Yeah, and

1393
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: he was like an area scout two years ago. Yeah,

1394
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: that's what worries me about mac grow. The second question

1395
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: is why haven't we talked about it or why aren't

1396
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: they considering Florists as far as we know, to be

1397
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? All right, that's that's a loaded one too.

1398
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: First of all, does he even want to be a

1399
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? I don't. I probably not. Second of all,

1400
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: he's got a lawsuit pending with the league, and Bill

1401
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: Belichick is a big part of that. And we don't

1402
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: know what Bill's response was to that whole thing out,

1403
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, the whole email texting and all that. Well,

1404
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: I thought, um Flores, initially, I didn't think there was anything,

1405
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of Flora's Belichick relationship, until he

1406
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: criticized Belichick for being a big part of the Giants,

1407
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: Like that's part of the problem, right. I thought that

1408
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: that part of it I thought brought Bill negatively into

1409
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: the story, not the text chain, right. But I don't

1410
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,480
Speaker 1: know if maybe you know, I think Bill has overlooked

1411
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that in the past. But your first point

1412
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: is the one that I would stand by. Does anybody

1413
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: know if Brian Flores wants to be a defensive coordinator

1414
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: right now? Right? I would think that would be an

1415
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: insult to him based on his lawsuit, right, you know? Yeah,

1416
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: but he might figure like all the head coaching jobs

1417
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: are taken, maybe he wants just to have a job. Yeah,

1418
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: so he would take it. I mean it's not but

1419
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be smarter for him to focus on the

1420
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: on the lawsuit probably and sit it out, regroup. You're

1421
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: getting paid anyway, probably. I just I'm just going by,

1422
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: you know what. You often see you off and see

1423
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: people just rushed to take whatever job is all I know,

1424
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: But not with a lawsuit. Pen No, it's different, not

1425
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: the same, not the same, Paul. To answer your question,

1426
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: Ziggler was three years as assistant director of pro Scouting,

1427
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: then four years as director of Pro Personnel, before last

1428
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: year assuming director of player Personnel. So he had been

1429
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: in a management position. Yeah, and what a grow grow

1430
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: grow grow got to the college scouting director last year, right,

1431
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: one first year right? Oh, and Ziegler was hired by

1432
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: McDaniels back in Denver. That's how he got into the

1433
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: like they were roommates. At that John Carroll School. Uh

1434
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: grow was eleven seasons. Uh served two as a National scout,

1435
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: six as an area scout. Um Scott started as a

1436
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: scouting assistant for two years. And yeah, he's paid his dues,

1437
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: but but he hasn't been managing. Yeah. It's like sometimes

1438
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: you want to like, why has he been there that

1439
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: long and hasn't really risen to anything higher than that? Yeah,

1440
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden and the other part

1441
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: of it, I'm gonna throw this out there and people

1442
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: can criticize me. It's another last name guy. Yeah, it's

1443
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: Alcohol's son. You know, like it's another thing I don't

1444
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: like about it. Well, Elliott Wolf was Ron Wolf's son,

1445
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know, Dave Ziegler is the Ziegler's son. I

1446
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: think that's why. I think that's why this guy got

1447
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: the promotion over Elliot Wolf, because I think Elliot Wolf

1448
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: is probably already he's already gone, was close to leaving

1449
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: this year, right. Ken writes in about the game the

1450
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I should say the game is only exciting

1451
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: if you care. Every NFL fans say, every NFL fan

1452
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: has some convoluted equation in their head about who they

1453
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: want to win. In any particular game if you really

1454
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: don't care about the outcome. It's like watching some European

1455
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: snowboarder in the Olympics. You admire the athleticism, but then

1456
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: you forget about it two seconds later. So that's why

1457
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: I always do the gymnastics to figure out who I hate,

1458
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: so I can have an interest. I told and I

1459
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: had a hard time with that this one, but I do.

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Speaker 1: right soon. Paul, I know you said on Tuesday Show

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Speaker 1: to draft one of those receivers Harry versus Samuel or Brown?

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Speaker 1: Gives me pause? He will do that. Perhaps that is

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Speaker 1: or third round. Yeah. I can't base my projections on

1477
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Speaker 1: what Bill has missed or hit on in the past.

1478
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Speaker 1: Like I can't say, well, they picked Harry, look at

1479
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Speaker 1: how that turned out, and say, well, never pick a

1480
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Speaker 1: wide receiver again, right, they never picked Ronk if that

1481
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Speaker 1: was the case, they would never pick a cornerback. Look

1482
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Speaker 1: at all the cornerbacks they've taken in the second round

1483
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1484
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1486
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Speaker 1: I think corner is one of their biggest needs. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say don't take Derek Stinkley because they missed on

1489
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Speaker 1: Duke Dawson, right, Yeah, Yeah, that not that Derek Stingley

1490
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Speaker 1: was gonna be a Bill about twenty one. He's probably

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Speaker 1: not going to be. But you just got to judge

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1493
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Speaker 1: do you like, and but I gotta admit I'm a

1494
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Speaker 1: little bit scared bndiculary Bye. That's more the type of

1495
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Speaker 1: receiver that just felt outside the I wonder what that

1496
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Speaker 1: discussion sounded like, you know, when they were looking at

1497
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1498
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Speaker 1: which was anything like giant could do play I know

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1502
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1503
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1504
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1505
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Speaker 1: That was very that was repeated by a lot of

1506
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1507
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Speaker 1: That's a big drawback. You know, if you can't get

1508
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1509
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1510
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1511
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1512
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1513
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1514
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1515
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1516
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Speaker 1: I know you're telling me that this guy is an

1517
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1518
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1519
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1520
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1521
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1522
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1523
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Speaker 1: well it was a little overthrown and he separated the

1524
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1525
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1526
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Speaker 1: But we're talking about like making a play and then

1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
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1531
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Speaker 1: What I mean, I think Harry can make those plays occasionally.

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1533
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1534
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1535
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1537
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1538
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1539
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1540
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1541
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01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,080
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Speaker 1: not just the end game. Michelobe Ultra ninety five calories,

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Speaker 1: ultra like bear saying Louis Missouri and now great moments

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: in history. But that's my point. They didn't they. I

1675
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: think Levy was caught the way there. He had a

1676
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: great team, great person you know, great players. They were

1677
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: oh sorry, it was unnecessary one whatever that came out

1678
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: of nowhere. They were, they were loaded. We get down

1679
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: on post post that's another great moment from all right

1680
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: back here and paid. It's unfiltered eight five five paths

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01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: five hundred, It's eighth ticket, hut line web radio at

1682
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Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. Is the email address alec and conquered right,

1683
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: He says, I'm sure, I don't know, probably Mass. Probably

1684
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: if he doesn't say it, it's probably Mass. Yeah, okay,

1685
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: But he says, bring back Braxton. This is our gotta

1686
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: have a moment. Guy in the slot they can get open,

1687
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: use the draft to address out of it. I know

1688
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: who we were talking about, Barrios, Tony Braxton. Yeah, what's

1689
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: the other. Uh, I'm blanking on his name. The other

1690
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: Jets inside receiver veteran guy had been around for a while,

1691
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, Jamison Crowder. Yeah, but let's get older. Let's

1692
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 1: see if we can up the age of the roster.

1693
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't he was? He hurts? Yeah, m that figures. I

1694
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: mean that would be if that would be a typical Patriots.

1695
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: It's worth bringing out Braxton bar guy who was good

1696
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: for a while, just got hurt. Let's get by rats,

1697
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: bring him in. But do you a let him go

1698
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: for a gunner? And he's had a pretty good little

1699
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: receiving season. I mean, that's Tony says about Harry. The

1700
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Scouts didn't want Harry. Coach overruled them and listened to

1701
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: Harry's college coach, according to reports, Right, so he's gonna

1702
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: be a good one now, Paul, Well, I'm telling you

1703
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: right now, canna be a good play play. Uh, let's

1704
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: get back to the ace ticket hutline five five pats

1705
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: five hundred. Todd's in North Carolina. Hey Todd, So it

1706
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: was Ryan Hannibal's last podcast with Andy Hart. Though, maybe

1707
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose somebody here. Maybe mister Paul, he's gonna

1708
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: go over and get himself a new job. Yeah, Paul's

1709
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna be the new U. Zero point zero percent chance

1710
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: of that. They can't Afford. Just wow. I think you

1711
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 1: two are great together. That's why I love that podcast.

1712
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: Thanks Paul and Andy Show. Oh my god, that would

1713
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: be great. Paul, we're talking drive Taull couldn't work for

1714
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Andy Drive Time. That would replace never work, that would

1715
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: replace the Big Oh Show. Absolutely probably. So did they

1716
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 1: think last much to me Brandon? By any chance? What's that?

1717
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: Did they think Nikil Harry would be like a Brandon LaFell?

1718
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope they thought they took him in

1719
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: the first round. They should have hoped they would be

1720
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah, because that's all I can see him.

1721
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he can make it

1722
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 1: up to Brandon LaFell, Like, I don't think that's I

1723
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's He's not even close to. I know

1724
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: I'd take Brandon Lafel all day, and that was a

1725
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, But I'm with Fred. They thought more

1726
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: of Nikil Harry in the draft, or they wouldn't have

1727
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: taken him in the first round. Right, So this one's

1728
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: totally forduced. The other guys can chime in. So I

1729
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: was looking at all the draft pit stuff and over,

1730
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: and I know that he liked or he chose Devin Lloyd,

1731
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: But man, doesn't he like Jordan David Douce, Jordan Davis.

1732
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: You see the size of that man and see what

1733
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: he did to the old line. You want a defensive

1734
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: tackle like that? Yeah, I know, I know, it's surprising, right,

1735
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: it's surprising. Yeah, you can't get them anywhere. And yeah,

1736
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. I think there are other you know,

1737
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: tackles that that you can get. I mean, he's he

1738
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: be a game changer. I just think they need too much.

1739
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: And how much is he really going to impact passing

1740
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: down you know, at least out of the gate, Probably

1741
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: not much. But I definitely think he's a He's a

1742
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: guy to consider. But I think there are other, you know,

1743
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: other guys down there down the line them that might

1744
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: fit that hoole a little bit better. But you know, again,

1745
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: you got a lot of defensive tackles coming back in Barmore,

1746
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: so I don't know if it lines up. Thanks Todd.

1747
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate real quick, Freddy, because I don't know when I'm

1748
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: going to get the call to have to go and

1749
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: do all access. Oh yeah, you got your shiny shirt on.

1750
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: I do. I just wanted to oh, put put a

1751
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: button on, put it, put a ball on the Okays, Yeah,

1752
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: Mike Paul Fred all went one and all Eric oh

1753
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: and one. Yeah. Well the spread, however, Eric one and all,

1754
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Mike Paul Fred, the men are separated from the boys.

1755
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: So here are the playoff standings about MVP final. Somebody

1756
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: I'll get to that. Shut up you, Fred, Paul nine

1757
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: and four. Good solid, good solid, good solid records, especially

1758
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: considering all the road teams that won in the playoffs.

1759
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Mike seven and six, Eric six and seven. I spent

1760
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: all my energy in the regular season, and I tell you,

1761
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: biggest regular season in NFL history at eighteen weeks. They

1762
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: have to pick, and I survived and I beat you

1763
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: both ways. All is if we if we include the

1764
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: postseason because he keeps the book correct with the spread.

1765
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: Paul eight and five not my strength. Fred seven and six,

1766
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: good job, you were close to me. Eric six and

1767
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: seven and Mike much like the regular season four and

1768
01:29:54,520 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: nine consistent, consistent, four and nine. So that's uh oh,

1769
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got screwed. My guy didn't win despite

1770
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: throwing a Patrick If Patrick Mahomes had done that, thinking

1771
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: guarantee for sure three touchdowns in a no look pass

1772
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: he would have gotten the MVP, but Mike picked Cooper Cup.

1773
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: There you go, you go feel for something, um, and

1774
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: I would say super. Both Paul and Fred had guys

1775
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: that were in the running. I had Stafford, Fred had

1776
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: Donald Donald, so definitely could have been Joe Burrow. Yeah,

1777
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: you're the Tiger. So the scores, um, no one was

1778
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: particularly close. Eric was the closest. He had Bengals thirty

1779
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: to twenty six. But you lose points for getting the

1780
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: wrong team right. Yes, okay. Mike had twenty seven seventeen,

1781
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,879
Speaker 1: I had thirty seventeen and Fred had thirty five fourteen,

1782
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: So no one was particularly I think it would have

1783
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: been what I said, if they had their Fred, you

1784
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: could play him my side of the street. I wasn't exact,

1785
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely wrong. I was onto something. Um. Okay,

1786
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones. Thank you for that update, Paul,

1787
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Uh Brandon is in Oregon. What's up? Brandon? Hey, Pete crew,

1788
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Hey go ducks. Hey, I just

1789
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: had a list of be actually real quick. Fred, I

1790
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: heard you say that his shiny shirt on today is

1791
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: here rocking the coke spoon as well? What. I don't

1792
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: have a cokespoon. No, no, no, not, And in fairness,

1793
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: it's not really a shiny it is a shiny shirt.

1794
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: It's got a little she's got mcgh he doesn't have

1795
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: it unbuttoned to show off his gold. I don't have

1796
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't have the cokespoon. No. I remember when I

1797
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: brought that up. None of you guys had heard of that.

1798
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I didn't heard. I never

1799
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: heard of A coach had a list of veterans that

1800
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: I think are all free agents. I was just gonna

1801
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: name them off, and one by one, you guys say

1802
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: whether or not you think they're coming back. Let's do it. Um.

1803
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I got a Devin mccordy, yes, no, yes, yeah, okay,

1804
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: two and two, two and two yep, two, okay, yeah,

1805
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: I got I gotta. I think d Max coming back

1806
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: as well. How about high Power? No, no, no, unanimous.

1807
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm Jase Jackson, No no, yes, three to one, Matt

1808
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Later yes, um, yes, where's he gonna go retire? I know,

1809
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say no, he's not gonna I'm gonna

1810
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: say now, okay, let's say yes. Yes, even though I

1811
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: love your brown cool Trump Brown. I'm gonna Brown. I mean,

1812
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. It's kind of convincing. No, I'm gonna

1813
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: say no. Okay, and James White the last one I got. Yeah,

1814
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. I'm gonna say yes. M yep, you

1815
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: don't got nobody, Yeah, Leader, every everybody was no on

1816
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: High Power and we only had one yes on Trent Brown.

1817
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's correct? Yeah? Yeah, two yes, Yeah,

1818
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean I said yes, Yeah, I'd like to out

1819
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: with the super Bowl got over last week and I

1820
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: think he has a riot. I think there's just gonna

1821
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: be a ton of turnover. And I don't know, it's

1822
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: just tough being a path fan, like I watched these guys,

1823
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 1: so many of them growing up for so long. It's

1824
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: so many big games, there's so many wins. It's just,

1825
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, weird kind of turning the page. It

1826
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 1: feels almost like the Brady thing all over again a

1827
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but obviously not that big of a deal. Yeah, Yeah,

1828
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get back there, Brandon, don't worry. I

1829
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: wonder what the dynamic with High Tower is. I mean's

1830
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: got to go, He's got the call. There's the High

1831
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: Tower wants to come back. They want him back Bullpen,

1832
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: there's you know, high Tower wants to come back. They

1833
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: don't want him back, and then the High Tower doesn't

1834
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: want to come back, and they don't want him to

1835
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: come back, you know. So I just I wonder what

1836
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: exactly does he want to keep playing? Do they want him?

1837
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't. You know. The reason I say a hard

1838
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: no is because he's always talked about money openly. I

1839
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: ain't playing for free, yeah, and they're not gonna pay

1840
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: him no, you know. I just don't think that it's

1841
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: going to come together where he's going to be willing

1842
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: to pay what they are willing to pay him to

1843
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 1: play for what they would someone else. Would someone else

1844
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: pay him? That's that's a good question. Well maybe, but

1845
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: we're just talking about coming back to the Patriots, right,

1846
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: not to the NFL. Yeah, you know, And so I

1847
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: just don't think so now. And I do think there's

1848
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: a world where, you know, you want them back just

1849
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: for at least, you know, some kind of role. I

1850
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: don't know if it would be the same, but it's

1851
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: it's a tough call. It's just you respect those guys

1852
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: so much. It's hard to talk about. YEP. It is

1853
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 1: Sean's in Vancouver. Hey Sean, Hey guys, I'm wondering how

1854
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: useful it is to really speculate about the draft at

1855
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: this point before free agency, because it really is a

1856
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: wide range of needs in terms of where they can be,

1857
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going to happen in free agency.

1858
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: We know they don't have the money that they had

1859
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: last year, and there are a lot of free agency

1860
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: free agents like Bentley and and Folk and you know

1861
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: Carrists and Jacy Jackson and Trent Brown. It we don't

1862
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: know if they can even bring those guys back around,

1863
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: how many or which, So I think I'd like to

1864
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: focus on free agency first. Then maybe we could figure

1865
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: out what their real needs are if if it changes

1866
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: at all. But I hate to tell you other than

1867
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: resigning their own free agents, it's going to be the

1868
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: opposite of last year. You'll be lucky to get one guy,

1869
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, like, that's that's notable. Yeah, yeah, but it's

1870
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good point, I think, And that's

1871
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: something I always try to keep track of when I

1872
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: would like plan my writing and offseason like analysis. It's

1873
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, don't get too crazy on the draft before

1874
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know who they're going to sign. Well, I

1875
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to it, but we get after the

1876
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: after free agency. But that's when I really start diving

1877
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: into you know who these guys are because a lot

1878
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: of things can change. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you there,

1879
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: and there could be some trades as well, and exactly. Yeah, Yeah,

1880
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good point. You could be

1881
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 1: all in on, like, oh, we got to get a cornerback.

1882
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: I get a cornerback. But then they sign a cornerback

1883
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: and free agency like, there goes your there goes your

1884
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 1: mock draft, right ye, Roger from Saint Louis right saying

1885
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: I currently live in Saint Louis, and I can tell

1886
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 1: you that this place he's talking about sports fandom. Yeah,

1887
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: that this place had to be the biggest Bengals fan

1888
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: base on Sunday outside of Cincinnati. They hate the Rams

1889
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: here more than the rest of the NFC West combined.

1890
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 1: But going back to sports fandom across the country, Boston

1891
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: fans fascinate me. I lived in Chicago for a bit

1892
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: before here, and anytime a team in that city had

1893
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: a good week, you'd think that Jordan came back in

1894
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: one another ring, where if a buston team does well

1895
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: for months, the fans still talk about how things are

1896
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: going terribly. Just a funny dichotomy between those teams in cities.

1897
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 1: My working theory is that sports fandom gradually decreases intensity

1898
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: as you move east to west across the country. It

1899
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: might be something to that. Yeah, I believe that. That's say,

1900
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: that's the bust the negativity. And there's also a difference

1901
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: in what sports they're passionate about. I'll give you an

1902
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:06,440
Speaker 1: ex by region the furthermost corner Seattle Rabbit not just

1903
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: not just for the football team, but for their soccer

1904
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: that well, that's that. That's my point too. It's like

1905
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: different regions have different sports that they're passionate about. You know,

1906
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: the South that tends to be more college football than

1907
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: pro sports. Yeah, you know, Seattle's is a great example

1908
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: of a of a passionate fan base for whatever their

1909
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: team is. You know, I think now they got the Kraken.

1910
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how passionate they are about hockey if

1911
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: they're in the Pacific Northwest. But the soccer team is

1912
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: like the biggest drawing soccer team for whole games. They

1913
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: have a parade through the city to the stadium. The

1914
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: think Paul's not here. Yeah, it's like Tennessee does that

1915
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of thing. They have like a ruch across the bridge. Yea.

1916
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:46,799
Speaker 1: In Seattle, like they go nuts for the sound of Sounders.

1917
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I said, I have two games there. It

1918
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: was awesome, awesome, super passionate. And they play in the

1919
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: Seahawks Stadium. Yeah, it's all right there anyway. I mean

1920
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: the Mariners play right around the corner too. I mean it's,

1921
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, one of those well thought out I mean,

1922
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: it's just so different from here because it's in the

1923
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: middle of the city. So you know, that was what's

1924
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,879
Speaker 1: crazy means like to go to a bar in downtown

1925
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Seattle and then all right, let's walk over to the game. Now,

1926
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: it's not like are we gonna drive down to Forrestborough Park,

1927
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: you know all that you gotta go through here. Yep.

1928
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: Ramon Rights and he some Tampa has some random questions

1929
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,799
Speaker 1: if we were able to defeat the eighty five Bears,

1930
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: what would that have done for our legacy? Oh wow, wow,

1931
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: that's an old school question I would have liked to get.

1932
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: I'd like to get pp and on that one, well,

1933
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: it's totally a different time too, because there wasn't free

1934
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: agency back then, so it's not like you could have

1935
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,560
Speaker 1: been like, oh, we can attract all everyone want to

1936
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: come and play here, like you still had like yours. Right,

1937
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: Let's think of a team that flashed in the pan,

1938
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: you know, was kind of a one super Bowl team

1939
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: because I don't think if they had won that game,

1940
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: it meant that they were going to keep on winning

1941
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: because they didn't have a quarterback right, Tony Easton was

1942
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: not right, you know, that guy that was going to

1943
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: lead to a multiple win. The offense still would have

1944
01:38:55,479 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: looked as Yeah, I'll tell you what happened though, it

1945
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: would not necessarily the franchisees legacy, but it would have

1946
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: helped a lot of those players legacy, like tipp would

1947
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: have gotten in the halls a great point, you know,

1948
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: other guys would have had more respect. Yeah, that's a

1949
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: good that's a very good point. Yeah. Yeah, And maybe

1950
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: I mean all the turmoil though with ownership and maybe

1951
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 1: that happened five years later, maybe that gets delayed a

1952
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe, Yeah, but I still think they're probably

1953
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: a flash in the pan. Yeah, had a playoff runs?

1954
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Is there a big more revenue, so that the Sullivan's

1955
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: don't like, does the Michael Jackson Tour never happened? I know,

1956
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they's got all these new advertisers,

1957
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, so it could have changed. Maybe it would

1958
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: have delayed the inevitable, you know, like maybe those kind

1959
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 1: of problems still would have come up. But that's a

1960
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: good question. But I mean you went, you know what,

1961
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: that's a good TV series? Yeah? What if TV series?

1962
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: What if you change one thing in history and what

1963
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: happens after? Yeah, and you take different right subjects, and

1964
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 1: because well, I just have to say that juxtaposed that,

1965
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: what happens if they win against the Giants? Right? I know,

1966
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: those two different things. Like you've got the eighty five Bears,

1967
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: who were, oh they weren't undefeated, but they were as

1968
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: close to it as you could have gotten, and they

1969
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: finished off that incredible season. Now they look in retrospect like, oh,

1970
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: that forty six defense. Yeah, and then they go and

1971
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: lose to the Patriots and the Super Bowl, right right,

1972
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: like they would have been less impressive. I think in retrospect,

1973
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: just like the oh seven Patriots looked like, well they

1974
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: were the superstar offense. Yeah, but then they lost to

1975
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the Giants. Like and now you have Brady's one from

1976
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: his from his show that he just put out talking

1977
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: about how motivating that was for the second half of

1978
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: his career. I think I'll pitch this to Apple plus yeah,

1979
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: plus it out. We'll get this up twelve parts. What

1980
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: what what what if? What if? Uh? Yeah? Would would

1981
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: they have? Would they have gone on to win three

1982
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: more seventy? I don't think so, because I think ownership

1983
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 1: plays so much a part, you know, continued success, like

1984
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: any you know the Saints with the Benson. Yeah, the

1985
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Benson you know, they won one, but they haven't won since.

1986
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: And you know, you can win. Every team can win once.

1987
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: But to do it like the Patriots did, you gotta

1988
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: have from the top. Yeah, you gotta be solid, yeah

1989
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 1: for over the long term. Right. It's funny too, how

1990
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: different it would like talking about what if between O

1991
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: seven and eleven Because the O seven team was stacked

1992
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: and awesome and probably one of the greatest teams in

1993
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: NFL history, even though they didn't win the Super Bowl.

1994
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: But then that eleven team, if they had won, they

1995
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: weren't really that great, So it's kind of two different.

1996
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: I would have been very similar to the twenty seventeen team,

1997
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: where the offense could light it up and the defense

1998
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, but you know, do you come out

1999
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: of that in the NFL's like defense doesn't matter anymore.

2000
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Just get an offense or just get Tom Brady and yeah,

2001
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: you just just get the grettest player ever. Another one

2002
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: of his random questions. That was a good one. If

2003
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: we could have drafted a pair of brothers, which one

2004
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 1: would you want? The Watts, the Digs or the Bosses.

2005
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Jeez, I gotta I'm probably

2006
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna go wait Tho Digs or Macho Digs because you

2007
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: get something from both sides of the ball. Yeah, that's

2008
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, I mean wat defense. I think the

2009
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: Watts defense though J. J. Watts a lot. I would

2010
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: take a lot. I think I would take the Watts. Yeah, yeah,

2011
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: that's a lot of wattage. One, Matt, you know what

2012
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: was coming? He's back? And what would you prefer? A

2013
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: division realignment or a schedule shake up? What does he

2014
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: mean by a schedule shake up? I like as far

2015
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: as like like the schedule formula formula. I don't I

2016
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: don't neither, I don't know I like I like the division.

2017
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: I like having close geographical rivals. I think that all

2018
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: matches up pretty well. And um, I don't Yeah, I

2019
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, you know, back in the day, you know, uh,

2020
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: these teams didn't have charter planes and all that stuff,

2021
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: you know when they you know, thirty years ago or whatever.

2022
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: But now they do and travels a lot easier. What

2023
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: do you think of every year have a lottery for

2024
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: the schedule too, and you have no idea who you're

2025
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna play until you have that lottery, and you could

2026
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: be playing anybody. That's fun, you know, And you bring

2027
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: that up and now I I there's a certain part

2028
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: of me that like everything's kind of like we know

2029
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: who they're gonna play. There's something exciting though. If they

2030
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 1: did that, like time time schedule reveal is like a

2031
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: real reveal, you'd also have to throw away the whole division,

2032
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have a division. Well, you'd have to Yeah,

2033
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: you'd have to do just two conferences and you can

2034
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: play you have two lotteries, one for your conference games

2035
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: and then one for your out of conference games, and

2036
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: then you're seated for the playoffs. You know, I don't

2037
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: know kind of fun. I mean, so you can talk

2038
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: about one through one through seven and one through seven. Yeah,

2039
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: and both conferences conferences regardless of there wouldn't be no divisions, right,

2040
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: so you're still playing the same amount of conference games

2041
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: that you do now. Yeah, but it's random you don't

2042
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 1: know who. Yeah, I mean you have to be like

2043
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: a major computer that can spit out the whole thing

2044
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: and it all fits and makes sense. I mean I

2045
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: know that that's all kinds of algorithms of trying to

2046
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: piece together so it all works out and nobody gets

2047
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I got into a twist on Twitter about the draft,

2048
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: same thing. I said, screw this whole worst the first thing,

2049
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, And it doesn't always work that way. So

2050
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: just have a lottery for the draft every year, yea,

2051
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 1: and for every round. So so in theory, the Rams,

2052
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: who just won the Super Bowl could have the first

2053
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah, imagine and you do it live though,

2054
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 1: and people, well, that's not fair, you know. But what

2055
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: I think what will happen is, especially in the Rams case,

2056
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: where you have a quarterback, and in years where the

2057
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: number one pick is an obvious quarterback, if that happens,

2058
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: where a team like the Rams gets the first pick,

2059
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: there's going to be trading. It will It will actually

2060
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: encourage more trading because teams that are good, that are

2061
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: at the top will say no, I'll trade down get

2062
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: more picks. I think it'll make the draft more exciting.

2063
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, oh, it's not fair,

2064
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: but screw that. I think pause against. It doesn't help

2065
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: the Jets to pick first every year. We chatted about

2066
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: this alliance to take the receivers all those years. I

2067
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: think it was waste these guys around the flooresting. You

2068
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: might have been out of the show for a minute,

2069
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: but we kind of talked about this and I brought

2070
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: up like, is there away and Paul had said, oh,

2071
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 1: that's a fred thing. Um, I would at least be

2072
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: on board with just the top ten, just to make

2073
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: it take it out of the NBA. Yeah, like, you know,

2074
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: just to put a little bit like you still have

2075
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: some kind of power structure. It's not like the Wow,

2076
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Wow West, where you who's picking next? Like I mean,

2077
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: but that's fun. I mean just to think like who's Cincinnati?

2078
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: You got that? Like all right? U. And even if

2079
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: you say like, well, it's not good to have it

2080
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: on the day that the draft is, so have it

2081
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: a month earlier. So now you have another event. Ye,

2082
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 1: full draft, full week, and so I have a month

2083
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: where I do know where I'm picking. But before that,

2084
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Primetime television advertising. I think I think

2085
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: that this whole the worst team. And also in the

2086
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: reason I thought of this is because of the whole tanking. Yeah,

2087
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: you know we know teams tank. Sure, so now there'll

2088
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: be less in SENTI to tank if you can be oh,

2089
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: in seventeen with no guarantee, you're gonna have a ticket

2090
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: even in the top sixteen. So there's no one scentive

2091
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: to tank it. So you take that off the table. Yeah,

2092
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: do it. It makes total sense to me. I'd love

2093
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: to hear this table, Matt. And they'll destroy that too.

2094
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: What is this, Patriots, I'm not gonna listen to two hours?

2095
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Good will get it. He'll destroy it. I just said that.

2096
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh you did. Yes, I like it better than Fred said. Thanks,

2097
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: mich Um. All right, good, so we got that figured out.

2098
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: Good question, we're solving problems. He I like it. We

2099
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: should write that forward thinking Yeah, yeah, blog treatment, blog

2100
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: Treatment'll do a treatment that in the what if show? Yeah,

2101
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I think we've come. You know, I think we've started

2102
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: side Baker can make money, can make money off of it.

2103
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 1: All we needed to do was get Paul out of

2104
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: the room. I know so much more. He's gonna come

2105
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: back in and tell us why they're terrible ideas, and

2106
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 1: then we'll be like, you're right, and then we'll walk

2107
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: up to the office with head and shame. Like Rooral Wasser.

2108
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: The most memorable thing about him as the way he walked.

2109
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: Somehow he'll live in infamy. Yeh. Let's see. I thought

2110
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: this was about what this guy's gonna have a little

2111
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: riff on him number five and I know Ohio state,

2112
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: but he just I heard somebody call him like the

2113
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: highest floor of the receivers. I know that'll drive people

2114
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 1: nuts that are listening to this right now. But just

2115
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: an all around really good receiver, tough, big, strong, all everything.

2116
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe not the high super smoothness

2117
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: that Olave has or that, but I mean some people

2118
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: like him, you know, the top two or three guys.

2119
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: It's all over the place though these these it's early still,

2120
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know. I mean Drake, this guy,

2121
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Drake London from USC He's one that all over the place.

2122
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Some people got him as the top guy. Other people

2123
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: album wait until they combine overreacts happen. My god, he

2124
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: performed so great. Well it'll be me and Paul. You

2125
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: see the size of his arms. Thirty one bench must

2126
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: be great. Adam writes in from Dublin very quickly. You

2127
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: guys are the best performing unit in Foxborough, so keep

2128
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: it up. I think I know what your answers will be.

2129
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: But would you I would like to hear you tease

2130
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: it out to understand where Max's potential truly lies. What

2131
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: asset would you would help you understand this quicker Julian

2132
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: Edelman slash Westwelker clone as a short distance, shifty receiver

2133
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: or a brick wall left tackle who keeps them clean

2134
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: all year eyed op for the receiver, because having to

2135
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: learn under duress is no bad thing. What do you

2136
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: think at the receiver? Yeah, I mean the receiver. I

2137
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: think there's just like a baseline of offensive protection that

2138
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,560
Speaker 1: you need to get to and then you're kind of

2139
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: all right, if it's is it better than that whatever?

2140
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: But and we saw it halfway through the season. They

2141
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of fixed the protection issues for the most party,

2142
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: and he was able to get the ball away and

2143
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: do what he wanted to do. So and I just

2144
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 1: I want to say this though, because I think we

2145
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: kind of got in this territory with Paul earlier in

2146
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: the show where it's you know, it doesn't have to

2147
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: be Wes Welker, Like I think like people have a

2148
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,759
Speaker 1: connotation of just being this like mid round, small, quick short,

2149
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, slot receiver. I want Dion Branch, I want

2150
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Troy Brown. I want guys who are versatile, who can

2151
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: move around. It's not the traditional slot guy. It's just

2152
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: a guy that can do a bunch of things and

2153
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 1: get open quick right. And you know, yeah, it doesn't

2154
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: mean that, oh he's only gonna play on third downs

2155
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be inside. Uh. You know, I'm fine

2156
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: with Jacobe Myers and that, and I think, you know,

2157
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Paul Paul is right and as far as his point

2158
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: with Jacobe, but I just think it's more that Dion

2159
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of guy that his go to can catch and

2160
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: he can catch everywhere on the field, and he's not

2161
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: just the one trick slots receiver pony. And he's also

2162
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: not the Philip door set I'm gonna run, you know,

2163
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks I'm gonna play the X outside. I'm either

2164
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: going to run a comeback or a go and maybe

2165
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 1: draw a pass interference that that that I don't want it.

2166
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I want a guy who can do it all and

2167
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 1: move around. Let's see. Lorenzo writes in now that we're

2168
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: in the off season, I wanted to get your opinions

2169
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,520
Speaker 1: on a would you rather for the Patriots? All hypothetical,

2170
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 1: but would love to hear your thoughts on what the

2171
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: Patriots would benefit from more. Would you rather have a

2172
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 1: a ball hawk safety or an in the box safety?

2173
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: Think Ed Read versus Troy Palomalo ball hawk Paul safety

2174
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: or him. I've been putting some thought into this, Eric,

2175
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 1: if you're asking me whether I want Ed Reid or

2176
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: Troy Palomalo, Yeah right, Um yeah, I mean it's uh.

2177
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Speaker 1: I just I think the free safety is a little

2178
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: bit of an easier position to Phil, Like you could

2179
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: get a Deron Harman to kind of do what d

2180
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: Mac did or you know what they've both done. Um,

2181
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 1: I just I think. I mean the way the Patriots

2182
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: are constituted, I think they put such value into guys

2183
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 1: like Dugger and Phillips, who can who can do it

2184
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: both m And I wonder if those guys are harder

2185
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: to find. I mean, at least what they've been kind

2186
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: of signaling is those guys have value when you need

2187
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 1: to go and get them. And you know, when you

2188
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 1: find one like Phillips, extend him. And you know, if

2189
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: you think you have one and dugger, go small school,

2190
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: go get him. Um, I don't know, I might go

2191
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: that way. Here's the thing. You know, you talk about Edwardid,

2192
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: he's the ultimate ball Hawks safety, right, but there's a

2193
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: big drop off after that. How many other ball Hawks

2194
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 1: safeties are really effective doing that? Yeah? You know, like

2195
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: the Seattle guy you know, what was his name, M L.

2196
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas Now he was one. But they're yeah, they're

2197
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: they're hard to find guys that are that smart. On

2198
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: the back end. You don't want jam well, Jamal Adams

2199
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Now I would take Jamal Adams, yeah, because usually you

2200
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: don't want your safety just doing anything you know is

2201
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: a good overall defensive player. Yeah, I mean, it's just

2202
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: it's there. There's nobody compares to Ed Reid. Who can

2203
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, with with his positioning, dare quarterbacks into throws

2204
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,759
Speaker 1: and and you know pick them off a pass rushing

2205
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: defensive tackle or a run stuff or think uh the

2206
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue Verse, Vince Wilfork pass rush, Yeah, pass rushing.

2207
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 1: It's the passing you need. You need, guys, do you

2208
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: need a bar more before you need a Jordan Davis. Look,

2209
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: that's how the Super Bowls decided. Like the Bengals did

2210
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: a pretty good job keeping the pressure away and then

2211
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 1: at the end when they needed it most, Donald makes

2212
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: the play and the game is over. And I think

2213
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: the strength of Sue in his prime was it was both. Yeah,

2214
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: exactly exactly if you can do both, right, I mean

2215
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: that's Donald, I Aaron d take Aaron Donald, right right?

2216
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 1: I I can't day a dynamic linebacker or a pass

2217
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 1: rushing defensive end. Think Luke Keiklely or Nick Bosas type

2218
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 1: I love I love me some I take I take

2219
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: the Keikly really. Yeah, he's all over the field. Yeah,

2220
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough because I could I can

2221
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: say the pass rusher you need, pass rush you got

2222
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 1: and you know, usually when you have those guys like

2223
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: keikle Oh he's a tackling machine. He's got two hundred tackles. Yeah,

2224
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 1: but how many are behind? Yeah? But I'm also assuming

2225
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: that I've got other things, and I think I'm leaning

2226
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: towards you, like I think I might might be there

2227
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: just because he controls the whole defense, and you know

2228
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: that that's that's a part of it. But I think

2229
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 1: there's also the edge setting component of the defensive ends up.

2230
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 1: That's a good question, it is. And finally, an offensive

2231
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 1: coordinator that is innovative or one that is a master

2232
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 1: of a system. Think Sean McVay versus Sean Payton. M

2233
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: innovative or master has a system that he's known for,

2234
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: like a Dick le Beau, or he's more defense. Right. Yeah, yeah,

2235
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 1: but I a coordinator, I see what you're saying. Yeah,

2236
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think you need both

2237
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a guy. Yeah, someone who have

2238
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: something that he believes in but also can continue to

2239
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 1: evolve with the league. At this point, I prefer an

2240
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who can coach up a quarterback to it.

2241
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: And yes, and I think that's probably where a lot

2242
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: of Patriots fans all right now, where it's like you enough,

2243
01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: who the thinking can we just put something simple where

2244
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: everyone gets it and can play fast? You know? That's

2245
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: what I think people are kind of itching for it

2246
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, Neil writes, in the entire show has

2247
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: been about issues with roster, who plays, who doesn't, Why

2248
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 1: are recent drafts of fail, lack of backup plans, and

2249
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: on and on. How much do you think that is

2250
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: being driven by Belichick's pursuit of the record. Playing young

2251
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: players might result in going six and eleven instead of

2252
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: ten and seven. If that were the case, that makes

2253
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: it harder slash longer for the seventy year old coach

2254
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: to break the record. So here is an insane question.

2255
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: If another team came to you and offered three first

2256
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 1: round picks for your seventy year old coach, and Bill

2257
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: was willing to waive his no trade clause, would you

2258
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 1: do it? I think it could be a win win.

2259
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: I have a team in mind that plays in a

2260
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: city that rhymes with alice. Three first round picks, Well,

2261
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: there are I mean, there are a few teams that

2262
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, it wouldn't be three first round picks

2263
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 1: this year, but there are a few teams that have

2264
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: three picks this year. I believe. Yeah, well, what you know,

2265
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: they don't have to be this year. They could be. No,

2266
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. But it would be

2267
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: great if it was all this year. Yeah. But if

2268
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: you think Bill Belichick is a good coach, even if

2269
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: you do covet the three first round picks the team,

2270
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna make that team better and then those picks

2271
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: are going to be low. Yeah you know. Yeah, but

2272
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean how long how long does he have? Are

2273
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: you gonna be having a first round pick when he's

2274
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 1: out of the league, like you know, Um, this was

2275
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: a new angle for me. Something I didn't really know

2276
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: until I think I got here was this. Um was

2277
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: the angle that Bill Belichick's main motivation in life is

2278
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: just to break that record. Like I never really heard

2279
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 1: that before. Yeah, never heard that. A lot of people

2280
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 1: just say that like it's fact. Well, and I don't

2281
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: think it because it's because he's getting closer to it. Yeah.

2282
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 1: I think people are assuming that that's why he's hanging on,

2283
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 1: because he has also said I'm not coaching into my

2284
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: seventies like Marv Levy. Well, two months from now, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be seventy. Yeah, so it's time to put

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01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 1: up a shut up. Yeah, I just into my seventies. Eric.

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01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: That could be technically he turned seventy. I know, he's

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01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: a man of his words. To part that's maybe seventy

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01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: seventy one seventy two aren't ease, Yeah, yeah they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're sixty nine, you're not seventy. Yeah. I don't know.

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01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: But if he's gonna get the record, he's got to

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01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: win games like immediately. So yeah, you know, I think,

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01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 1: like I always just admire his short term focus of

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01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: what he what he preaches. So I don't know, I

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01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 1: just people seem like that's all that consumes him, almost

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01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 1: like as if he like will lose games if that

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01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 1: helps him break the record, if you know what I mean,

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Like that sounds stupid. It sounds like he just wants

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Speaker 1: to break the record. I mean, he doesn't even care

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: who he drafts. He just wants to win a bunch

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01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: of games. Like what. I don't think. So I don't really,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure like, hey, that'll

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01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: be nice if when it comes, but I he wants

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01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: to win games. The Eagles. The Eagles have three first

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01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: round picks this year, not crazy, fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen. Wow,

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01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: that's that's some heavy artillery. Like what if the Eagles

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: came to you and said, we will give you these

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01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 1: picks for Bill Bell, Bill Belichick. I'd be ballsy by them,

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: almost almost if I had. If Josh McDaniel's on the

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: staff and I really thought that he was the Arab

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: I was the crafts, I would say, now's the time

2312
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 1: you start with a new coach and four first round picks,

2313
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: because you have your own too. I mean, the only

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01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 1: reason I consider it is just that three first round

2315
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 1: picks are going to be here for a while. Rechange

2316
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: your whole team for the next decade. Like I said,

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01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 1: if I had the guy identified right now, I would

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01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 1: do it, But right now I wouldn't because I don't

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01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 1: have that guy and there's no one better than Belichick,

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01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 1: right And that's and that's like what I keep coming

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: back to. If like, you know the people, you know,

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01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: I get people are you know, sick of some aspects,

2323
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: but like, like is it really gonna make you happy

2324
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 1: to get rid of Bill Belichick? And then somebody like

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01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel comes in, that's like, all right, now we

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01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: die this guy from San Francisco, Well, he got debo working,

2327
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure he's gonna find something like that. That

2328
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: that's the point where I think everyone's gonna be like,

2329
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, Belichick's gone, and we're just nobody really seems

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: to care now, Like I just kind of in the

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01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you think it's Tom Brady's the greatest ever,

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01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be it's tough moving on from him,

2333
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: But so is Bill Belichick. Yeah, and you know, and

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01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be really tough moving on from him, right,

2335
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 1: And the same people who are lamenting getting rid of

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 1: Brady too soon, it's like, well, do you do you

2337
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: want to? Like, I know, it hasn't been perfect the

2338
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: last few years around here, but it's at least interesting.

2339
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is certainly well established and has

2340
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: a plan and is trying to do it, so well,

2341
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: what would you rather watch? And I could argue that

2342
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: there's probably more good quarterbacks when you look at current

2343
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL in the draft available every year

2344
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 1: than really good head coaches. Yeah, you know for sure,

2345
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: for sure, because the real good ones aren't available, right,

2346
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 1: and so you're taking a chance on guys who really

2347
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 1: are haven't proved and you never really know, at least

2348
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: with the draft you've seen like production, but like with

2349
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel or you know, and not to pick on him,

2350
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: just anybody, like, right, what do you really know until

2351
01:58:58,000 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 1: he gets in there and he does it. You know,

2352
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has done a good job and being able

2353
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 1: to do it. But those those are, those are It's

2354
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: crazy to think McVeigh is still the youngest coach in

2355
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 1: the league and he's been in the league for a

2356
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 1: while now. Yeah, that's how young he was when he

2357
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 1: was hired. Yeah, Zoe had a good impression to him

2358
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: the other day on the radio. Zoe. Yeah, it was

2359
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 1: it was you wouldn't expect an impression from Zoe, but

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01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty good. So it's pretty good. Yeah,

2361
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 1: it's um, he could do impression. He kept going to

2362
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: like it wasn't just a little like, oh that was funny.

2363
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 1: He was working it. It's funny. All right. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots on Filter Sans

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01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: paul Um. We'll be back next week see what happens

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Have to see you next Tuesday. Thank

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01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:43,880
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