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Speaker 1: episode number ninety two. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and Uh, this game that we saw yesterday,
Speaker 1: there's a lot to take from it, and I'm certain
Speaker 1: that there are lots of people out there listening right
Speaker 1: now that are frustrated and probably feel like they don't
Speaker 1: even really know what to make of this team at
Speaker 1: this point. It's our jobs to give you a little context.
Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna try to do here over
Speaker 1: the next forty five minutes, to give you a little
Speaker 1: context of what we thought saw yesterday, what things we
Speaker 1: saw that were good and bad, and what things maybe
Speaker 1: were about yesterday what things may be bigger picture that
Speaker 1: can be problems for the Cowboys. They kind of backed
Speaker 1: into the playoffs at this point, so they are officially
Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs, just don't necessarily know
Speaker 1: at what spot and with who though he playing in
Speaker 1: the first round. But let's start. Cowboys lose forty to
Speaker 1: thirty four in overtime. Give me the big picture that
Speaker 1: you take out of this game. Nick, Let's start with you. M.
Speaker 1: Their defense is not is not what it was and
Speaker 1: whatever the reason is, and a lot of it is
Speaker 1: because of injury. You can't just keep having injuries. But
Speaker 1: but there's it's more to it than that. It's a
Speaker 1: bigger problem. And you know, they just couldn't they couldn't
Speaker 1: get them off the field there. I mean, the offense
Speaker 1: has got it it's problems as well, but they scored
Speaker 1: enough points to win that game. And the defense, I
Speaker 1: just don't know if they can continue to take some
Speaker 1: of these hits that they've got injury wise, and they
Speaker 1: have a huge, huge problem at cornerback amber. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, by the way, Yeah, a lot, no
Speaker 1: but done, I'm serious, Like that's where we Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what we saw. Yeah, um, I just feel I don't
Speaker 1: know what to think, but I feel like we're kind
Speaker 1: of screwed right now. Um. I mean, this was a
Speaker 1: tough loss, but the way they started the game in
Speaker 1: the first half, it I thought by by halftime this
Speaker 1: was over. Basically they had this in the bag. I'm like, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: they did. They're really good. I thought Kellen Moore came
Speaker 1: out with some things that were pretty impressive, but then
Speaker 1: everything just kind of disappeared in the second half. So
Speaker 1: that's what really bothers me is the them not being
Speaker 1: capable of really kind of being consistent really all throughout
Speaker 1: the season. I think that has been one of their
Speaker 1: biggest issues on all offense, just being consistent and stick
Speaker 1: into what works and just being able to carry that.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good whatsoever on what's happening on defense.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely concerned at corner with Kelvin Joseph and what's
Speaker 1: to come. I don't really know how they can fix
Speaker 1: that in the amount of time that we have right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know how who they could even bring at
Speaker 1: this point, and then the guys that they ended up
Speaker 1: bringing in when they decided to bench him and sit
Speaker 1: him out. I don't think they're ready either, So I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen there. But that's definitely
Speaker 1: an area where teams, especially this weekend, the other teams
Speaker 1: are going to try to exploit there. So I'm just
Speaker 1: it's hard to see the positive side at this point.
Speaker 1: Right now, you get a right tackle, you figured out
Speaker 1: the right tackle spot, Just go ahead and play Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith at right tackle. You know, I think offensively, it's
Speaker 1: kind of unfortunate how the game unfolded for you there.
Speaker 1: You know, with the drive I hated it came down
Speaker 1: to that final trying to kill the clock. You know,
Speaker 1: with the play, the play call, maybe the fifty fifty ball,
Speaker 1: you throw it to Gallop. He's made incredible catches doing that,
Speaker 1: draws pass interference calls. You know, maybe you get one
Speaker 1: on that. I think you scored enough points to win
Speaker 1: this football game, for sure. The problem is when you
Speaker 1: don't get pass rush or you don't have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to affect the other team with pass russ you're a
Speaker 1: very ordinary defense and the cornerback spot. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: one of these guys that talks about Kelvin Joseph and
Speaker 1: needing getting opportunity. The play that he was beat on
Speaker 1: was off coverage, with him having to make a decision
Speaker 1: on do I drive do I not drive? You know,
Speaker 1: at the double move stuff. For him playing off coverage.
Speaker 1: We've talked about that a bunch on this show. It's
Speaker 1: not his suit because he has to think about you know,
Speaker 1: he has to think about, Okay, do I drive on this?
Speaker 1: And if he drives on it, maybe there's a chance
Speaker 1: for contact, maybe there's a chance for you know, all
Speaker 1: kinds of bad things. You know, that's a little bit
Speaker 1: on coaching though, you know, when you can't just totally
Speaker 1: play man coverage the whole game or play him up
Speaker 1: the whole game. But that's the problems that you're gonna
Speaker 1: run into when you you know, now, defense had a
Speaker 1: chance to get off the field at the end of regulation.
Speaker 1: You know, if you somehow Armstrong when they hadn't they
Speaker 1: got one sack in this game, Armstrong has a chance
Speaker 1: to get Lawrence down. He doesn't tackle him, he doesn't
Speaker 1: get the sack. Laurence flings the ball to the back
Speaker 1: and the back gets out of bounce. You know, that
Speaker 1: could have been killer for them right there. Sack clocks moving,
Speaker 1: have to maybe use a time out. You know, now
Speaker 1: you're in a whole situation. Ball goes to the other side.
Speaker 1: Now it's going out to curse. He's got him on
Speaker 1: the numbers. You know, basically try and break his leg
Speaker 1: if you have to. I'm sorry it sounds brutal, but
Speaker 1: it's but you got to just drop him right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta do the Dak Prescott, I'm breaking
Speaker 1: your ankle move is and I'm sorry, I don't mean
Speaker 1: to sound brutal about it, but that's what you have
Speaker 1: to do. You cannot let him drag you from the
Speaker 1: numbers to the out of bounds. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's another situation right there. So you know, this game,
Speaker 1: the way it materialized, there were some positive things about
Speaker 1: this there really really was. But the things when you
Speaker 1: absolutely needed to finish them, you couldn't do it. That's
Speaker 1: my concern is how do you finish these teams? You know,
Speaker 1: when you get a chance to either pass rush or
Speaker 1: tackling or getting her first down. That's the biggest concern
Speaker 1: I have about this football team because they can't do
Speaker 1: it right now and going into the playoffs, that's something
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to have You're gonna need to have that.
Speaker 1: Maybe some of the games earlier we saw that, but
Speaker 1: now you don't have that ability. That's two weeks of
Speaker 1: bad football. I mean, they walked out of the game
Speaker 1: against the Texans with the win, but that's two weeks done.
Speaker 1: Now we see them struggling at a part of the
Speaker 1: reason that you kind of need to be kind of
Speaker 1: in your best moment and going with some building some
Speaker 1: type of momentum, and it's just it's hard to to
Speaker 1: have some hope of what's to come. Well, especially this
Speaker 1: week in Christmas. I'll tell you what. In the overtime,
Speaker 1: you know, on the interception, it ended the game. I
Speaker 1: love the play call. I wish they had done the
Speaker 1: play call on third and ten when they had the
Speaker 1: opportunity because I'm always about like try and set guys
Speaker 1: up to get them open. Now people say, well, why
Speaker 1: are you throwing the ball to Noah Brown? Well, and like,
Speaker 1: if really in this game then second half, they weren't
Speaker 1: going to let Ceedee Lamb catch the football. They just weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, but you could set it up where they
Speaker 1: were killing and I'm just talking about off the all
Speaker 1: twenty two. They were in a double pick, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's it's works and Dak put the ball in
Speaker 1: a good spot because earlier in the game, early in
Speaker 1: the game, before Noah Brown's touchdown, he caught a ball
Speaker 1: literally the same way. So you're like going, we've seen
Speaker 1: this before. Yeah, we've seen this. So you know, when
Speaker 1: you when you want to talk about being clutch at
Speaker 1: that right moment, you know, that's the that's the thing
Speaker 1: that eludes this team sometimes. And that's again that's my
Speaker 1: bigger problems. And I think frankly that I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people last week were saying, why are the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are looking at the wide receiver position. I think
Speaker 1: that showed me why right now you're not getting the
Speaker 1: consistent production. And in that situation, Dak put that ball
Speaker 1: right and I hate that it has to go on
Speaker 1: dat stat line as an interception, but that he put
Speaker 1: the money, the ball right on the money and and
Speaker 1: just couldn't come up with the catch. And I think
Speaker 1: having a more experienced guy maybe t why Hilton can
Speaker 1: be that that more experienced gab Brian, You've been talking
Speaker 1: about this for a few weeks. In that last situation
Speaker 1: where you just need a guy to be able to
Speaker 1: make that clutch catch. Maybe t why Hilton is a
Speaker 1: better option than Noah Brown. Let's let's dive into some
Speaker 1: of the smaller details of the game. I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about that moment, Nick and you and I talk.
Speaker 1: Nick and I talked a lot about this in the
Speaker 1: press box, and even before it happened, Like as soon
Speaker 1: as they made the past we both were like, that
Speaker 1: was a bad decision. But the situation was fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: minute twenty left, third and ten at the Dallas thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has one time out left. Dallas opts to throw
Speaker 1: a deep pass to Noah Brown on the left side
Speaker 1: of the field. It's incomplete. They end up in a
Speaker 1: situation where they don't have to use that timeout, which
Speaker 1: later in the game, ironically, they get into a situation
Speaker 1: where they have to review that to get them the
Speaker 1: time out back. And that shows you just how valuable
Speaker 1: it was. Nick, you were in there listening to coach
Speaker 1: McCarthy after the game, What do you have to say
Speaker 1: about why they made that decision? He kind of avoided
Speaker 1: the question a little bit. He just talked about He's
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can go back and listen because
Speaker 1: he said something like he had they had they had
Speaker 1: a time out, so they were going to use it,
Speaker 1: and we're just trying to be aggressive there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of was like, I didn't I didn't agree.
Speaker 1: There wasn't not going to be an answer that that
Speaker 1: got me to agree with that. It's not um And
Speaker 1: I wrote in the article, I'm not throwing that to
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, I'm not or Jerry Rice. That's not That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm I'm trying to do there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's that's not the place, certainly not the North Brown.
Speaker 1: And again I say this, Dak. I love what Dak.
Speaker 1: He played a good game to yesterday. To me, I
Speaker 1: think he played a really good the touchdown throw that
Speaker 1: could have been the game winner. I mean that was
Speaker 1: a spin out. I mean that was a great play.
Speaker 1: But that is not his thing. Standing back there and
Speaker 1: just making the deep throw. He's good on the run
Speaker 1: and all that, but just the deep throat. That's why
Speaker 1: I've said I don't think that's his strong suit. The
Speaker 1: bat wasn't even in bounds. It's not a smart call.
Speaker 1: And I don't care. I'm not calling Kellen Moore on
Speaker 1: that one. The head coach has got to say, run
Speaker 1: the football three times. It doesn't have to be right
Speaker 1: up the middle, run to the outside pitch. You didn't like,
Speaker 1: you didn't like the idea, but I'm fine with turfen
Speaker 1: taking reverse as long as you don't go out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Just something wide. They just stretch, maybe you bust it,
Speaker 1: maybe something happens. You just tell your guys absolutely, do
Speaker 1: not hold because if you get a hold. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: thing about it is if you're going to throw the
Speaker 1: ball in that situation, throwing them first down, you know,
Speaker 1: get in you know, because they you basically by formation,
Speaker 1: you show them what you were going to do throwing
Speaker 1: the football, you would you basically kept the tied end
Speaker 1: in the back end. And it's almost like it was
Speaker 1: a punt protection kind of a throw is really what
Speaker 1: it was. But you know, and then you know, you
Speaker 1: get the pressure and stuff. So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough call. It really really is. To me.
Speaker 1: I know, you're in a situation. I understand they're trying
Speaker 1: to end the game. Because I always get on coaches
Speaker 1: about this. They don't know the condition of their team
Speaker 1: and the condition of your defense. In the second half
Speaker 1: was not good. Now I'm thinking to something like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if we can get a first down here, we're gonna
Speaker 1: end this game and I'm not going to have to
Speaker 1: put my defense back out there again. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I just didn't like what you die
Speaker 1: piled up there. I just didn't you had a better chance.
Speaker 1: I can say with the with you, look what Jacksonville
Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson, We're able to do. The picks, the rubs,
Speaker 1: the things make these officials call a penalty if it's
Speaker 1: if you're gonna run a like I say, the ball
Speaker 1: to Noah Brown should have been a first down. It
Speaker 1: should have been a first down and the drive should
Speaker 1: have kept going because it was a good call. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got what they wanted they got there. It just
Speaker 1: ball clanged off the receiver. That's the issue there. So
Speaker 1: to me, I like the idea of trying to trying
Speaker 1: to not put the defense back out there again. I
Speaker 1: hate the play that they used to try and get
Speaker 1: to that. A fifty fifty ball to Noah Brown to me,
Speaker 1: is not a great option there. It's just not And
Speaker 1: that's my thing. I don't have I honestly don't have
Speaker 1: as much of a problem if they opted to say
Speaker 1: we're going to be aggressive and go for the first down,
Speaker 1: which means we're probably going to throw the ball here.
Speaker 1: Right if you tell me I got this one play
Speaker 1: that we have been work exactly. We know we can
Speaker 1: make this, We know we can get You can't give
Speaker 1: me the best play call. Yeah, you can't tell him
Speaker 1: me that a deep ball to Noah Brown down the
Speaker 1: left sideline is the best thing you got to throw
Speaker 1: up in that kind of situation. If it is, shame
Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, like shame on you. That's just to me,
Speaker 1: that is that is not they didn't give themselves the
Speaker 1: best chance if they wanted to be aggressive. But you's
Speaker 1: gotta be aggressive. You gotta have the right see running
Speaker 1: the football there and burning the timeouts. That's not a
Speaker 1: bad That's not bad, not bad at all. The problem is,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm I'm just looking at a defense
Speaker 1: that you know hasn't really stopped anybody. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: saying the second half and I'm thinking, damn, if they
Speaker 1: could just get one first down, this think's over, you know.
Speaker 1: But I would have thrown the ball first down like
Speaker 1: a waggle or a boot you know, hard play action,
Speaker 1: booted out there, throw it to Schultz. It's like eight
Speaker 1: nine yards and now you're second and one, and now
Speaker 1: they're burning timeouts. Now you're running the ball. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just the sequence of run and then a toss
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then the deep pass. It's like,
Speaker 1: the sequencing of plays just wasn't right for me. And
Speaker 1: I'm not a coach, but I've seen enough football where
Speaker 1: I know this is how teams, like the really creative teams,
Speaker 1: they end games. They think, Okay, we're gonna load them,
Speaker 1: stop the run here, and then you go heavy play.
Speaker 1: You go heavy play action and a guy just leaks
Speaker 1: out of the bell and they just full and they
Speaker 1: hit it and it's a nine yard game. And then
Speaker 1: now the clocks move, and honestly, all you really need
Speaker 1: it was positive yards right there on that first down
Speaker 1: one they got negative three. Yeah, that kills you right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But if you're getting six seven yards even that sets
Speaker 1: up a whole different scenario. And then you still get
Speaker 1: them to burn those timeouts. And as you're getting yards
Speaker 1: and making them burn timeouts, the closer you get down
Speaker 1: the field, and then now you punt it get an
Speaker 1: all an All, a Pro Bowl punter, you know, you
Speaker 1: maybe pin it down there and make them, you know,
Speaker 1: have to deal with all that. But man, that was
Speaker 1: his punt could have been better than yeah, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt, high enough, And they got too much of
Speaker 1: a return on that one. And that guy's a good
Speaker 1: punt returner. Two, I'm not kicking the by him handing
Speaker 1: the ball in the jet sweep, So throwing it to
Speaker 1: him was big, you know for these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: with what they were able to do, that's tough. All right,
Speaker 1: We're going to take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dak Prescott had an interesting day. You
Speaker 1: look at his numbers. He had, I think, as Nick
Speaker 1: pointed out, a really good day. There were they interceptions.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the second segment of the Break Life NESTWBC
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Speaker 1: you by blockchain dot Com. It's It's interesting how I've
Speaker 1: heard people say when you talk it out, you feel better.
Speaker 1: I already feel better after that first segment. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys playoffs. It's not like I'm starting
Speaker 1: to feel it better. Not necessarily better about this team,
Speaker 1: because I still feel like they got some real issues,
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to just like the weight of what
Speaker 1: I was feeling this morning and starting to be lifted.
Speaker 1: I feel, to me, I look at it like everything
Speaker 1: that goes up, you're making no sense. I feel this game,
Speaker 1: we keep talking about it, and in fact, you will
Speaker 1: make me even more mad if we keep talking about
Speaker 1: I just I feel like everything that goes up comes down.
Speaker 1: I believe that, and we've seen that. They've seen that.
Speaker 1: Thank you well proven. You should have gotten your ass
Speaker 1: kicked by Houston. You got lucky to win that game.
Speaker 1: You played the crap and you lost, but you figured
Speaker 1: out a way to win. You figured out a way
Speaker 1: to lose this game. You shouldn't have lost either one
Speaker 1: of those two teams. But they're not playing at that level.
Speaker 1: And so you know what, if you keep putting your
Speaker 1: hand inside like the aquarium where the snake is, they're
Speaker 1: gonna bite you at some point that they may not
Speaker 1: want too right then, but they did. And then Jaguars
Speaker 1: came back and did a lot of analogies there. But
Speaker 1: I like it. It's good. That's what I do. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm about a three hundred hitter when it
Speaker 1: comes to those analogies, about three out of ten. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about Dak Prescott. Yesterday. He was
Speaker 1: twenty three or thirty seventy seven percent completion rate, really good,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six yards, three touchdowns. That's usually
Speaker 1: a storyline right there, right, two interceptions, that's that's where
Speaker 1: the story he starts to change. One hundred and seven
Speaker 1: point one rating. And he also had five rushes for
Speaker 1: twenty yards, which, by the way, I loved how he's
Speaker 1: running the ball yesterday. He was running the ball like
Speaker 1: old school Dak. Yeah, that was like if you're coming
Speaker 1: you better come, and I think that's what this team
Speaker 1: needs from him. That being said, let's go back to
Speaker 1: the two interceptions. What happened and who was at fault.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the second one. What
Speaker 1: happened on the first one particularly, I think he is
Speaker 1: he double pumped the ball. He when he went back,
Speaker 1: he saw Schultz was there, and we kind of got
Speaker 1: on him about not seeing linebackers or maybe and I
Speaker 1: think he saw a flash of a jersey and he
Speaker 1: pulled it back and it when pulling it back, he
Speaker 1: had to reload it and by that time, he's getting hit,
Speaker 1: he's going down, he's getting hit in the back, ball
Speaker 1: gets pushed and now it's too high. But he initially
Speaker 1: saw Schultz, he saw him open, and he wants to
Speaker 1: throw it to him. And that flash of that linebacker
Speaker 1: standing there going away moving to his right as Schultz
Speaker 1: was to his left, I think it made him. I
Speaker 1: think he was worried that if I throw this, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw it right at that linebacker and that and
Speaker 1: that was a problem on that one because they didn't
Speaker 1: really pick up the twist very clean on that play,
Speaker 1: and it was Peter's side. It was the right side there,
Speaker 1: so they really didn't pick up the twist all that cleanly.
Speaker 1: And Peter's guy, he loses sustain and now he's on
Speaker 1: dacks back. You know, they're kind of struggling with that,
Speaker 1: and but you could see him double clutch it, he
Speaker 1: pumps it, pulls it down. Now he's trying to reload it.
Speaker 1: He gets hit and that's where the ball lose its
Speaker 1: its trajectory form. Do you think that at this stage
Speaker 1: what you've seen yesterday and a little bit of what
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, like I think it was
Speaker 1: last Sunday, he's unlucky got Jason from Jason Peters at
Speaker 1: right tackle. Do you think it's time to kind of
Speaker 1: retire that thought of him being able to do that,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's been good at that, not
Speaker 1: as good as he's been when he's been on the left.
Speaker 1: You you you, you, you played it the right way.
Speaker 1: I know Nick was probably losing his mind in the
Speaker 1: press box about you know, him standing like seventy seven
Speaker 1: standing over there waiting to get into game. But they're really,
Speaker 1: as we all know, they're big on the ramp up stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, before the game we were learning about t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton wasn't ready. Dada da da da. You know
Speaker 1: that we're going to start seeing things like we don't
Speaker 1: care anymore. Okay, t Y Hilton, you're playing now washing
Speaker 1: ten anybody else, bum You're gonna stand over here. Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, Peters, you could back up over on
Speaker 1: the left side. Back up over there to Smith. Ball,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be backside. You're gonna back up Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: over here. They figured it out. Just go ahead, play
Speaker 1: the five guys played, Tyron Smith. Get through this. That
Speaker 1: part of it was a very positive experience for you
Speaker 1: yesterday playing football. So yeah, the Peterston needs to be
Speaker 1: him back on the left side, him being a backup,
Speaker 1: and then Tyron Smith and Ball being on that right side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it looked very comfortable playing over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he did. He did fine. I think the offense,
Speaker 1: I mean they they moved the ball when they needed to.
Speaker 1: I mean they drove down the field and scored. Then
Speaker 1: then and over time they lost. I mean I think
Speaker 1: their problems are on defense, I really do. I mean,
Speaker 1: but to stick with what you're saying here about Dak,
Speaker 1: I thought Dak played pretty well in the game. I
Speaker 1: thought the drive there at the end of the game
Speaker 1: was was a really good probably should have won the
Speaker 1: game for them. And if it did, I mean, that
Speaker 1: is a Romo like play, just spinning backwards like that
Speaker 1: and all that and a great throw and I mean
Speaker 1: no I mean or Brian made a catch right off
Speaker 1: the right, off the ground, you know, but they back
Speaker 1: to back catches to get in that drive. And Noah,
Speaker 1: Brian had a clutch catch against Houston, I mean like
Speaker 1: last week Cincinnati, Cincinnati. I mean, so he's had some
Speaker 1: moments there. He dropped that one. Um and you know
Speaker 1: another thing too, like I give credit to the officials.
Speaker 1: They didn't really didn't call much in that game. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the penalties were. They didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was a lot that was had three It was
Speaker 1: a pretty clean Ever since I've made my proclamation that
Speaker 1: they will never ever fix the penalty thing. They fixed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And yeah, sometimes you're at the mercy of these officials,
Speaker 1: you really are. Look what happened last night to the
Speaker 1: commandersh my god. Yeah yeah, but that uh good for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That was good good, But that's a block
Speaker 1: in the back on Dak I'm sorry. They're probably still
Speaker 1: gonna lose, you think, ye I disagreed you a little
Speaker 1: bit on that because I thought it was kind of
Speaker 1: like it was kind of on the side. I think
Speaker 1: it would have been a it could go either way.
Speaker 1: I wasn't hardcore that had to be a penalty like
Speaker 1: to me that that could go either way. I thought,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the one they would have got probably
Speaker 1: twe yards he kicked the field. I was trying to
Speaker 1: think of the play or go back in my mind.
Speaker 1: The play that they missed I thought was awful was
Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk catching the ball late in the game.
Speaker 1: That was a clear push off on right. He used
Speaker 1: two hands and shoved right to make the Yeah, the ball,
Speaker 1: I mean, they get a first down out of the
Speaker 1: out of the thing. But he two hands shoves right
Speaker 1: on the play, and you're like, when, okay, I get it,
Speaker 1: you're letting a play. It wasn't like you run into
Speaker 1: the guy and then turned back for the ball. It
Speaker 1: is he runs and basically you see his hands extended
Speaker 1: and then he comes back and Right's kind of like
Speaker 1: knocked back off the play and then they you know,
Speaker 1: they get a first down on Sean Wright was going
Speaker 1: to win the game for him. I thought that tackle
Speaker 1: that he made and he sacrificed himself because he got
Speaker 1: he kind of knocked himself out of for a second.
Speaker 1: But it was third down and in overtime, right eat
Speaker 1: n I mean they were flying. That was a colleague.
Speaker 1: Was that the screen? Yeah? Yeah, the screen. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: get off the field. They got off the field, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna punt it to Turpin and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go win this game. That's what I thought. I thought
Speaker 1: that Nishan right was gonna, you know, make that play,
Speaker 1: and and you know, they were just trying to get
Speaker 1: creative and to do things and not put Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: in the game. That's that's what I think. The problem is,
Speaker 1: is it? I thought, and Brian, you could correct me here.
Speaker 1: I thought mcquamu came down to play some corner at
Speaker 1: some point, or at least they played a package where
Speaker 1: mcquamo was out there, Marquis Bell was out there for
Speaker 1: two plays, and and Marquis Bell was a lost guy
Speaker 1: on two plays. I mean the ball a couple of times,
Speaker 1: he did not see it. Very This is a kid
Speaker 1: that did just has not had many opportunities to do
Speaker 1: anything and getting him out there, I could see maybe
Speaker 1: you need a break for somebody. But it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a struggle for him. The playoffs struggle.
Speaker 1: It was the fourth It was the drive was they
Speaker 1: got the ball with one on one left. It is
Speaker 1: the final drive. You get the drop by Jones, and
Speaker 1: then you get the twist doesn't go home. They throw
Speaker 1: another ball to Jones, and then and then the ball
Speaker 1: to Kirk and and then you know that's it, and
Speaker 1: then you get the after that, then the very next
Speaker 1: play is the chance for Armstrong to get the sack
Speaker 1: and they flip it, just flings it to the running
Speaker 1: back and it gets out of bounce. Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1: That was to me. I mean there were like three
Speaker 1: killer plays in a row. The two hand shove I
Speaker 1: thought they missed it was uh OPI the miss sack
Speaker 1: by Armstrong, not getting Lawrence to the ground, and then
Speaker 1: and then and then curse not being able to tackle
Speaker 1: at the numbers. I mean, this is not a this
Speaker 1: is not a close. I mean, this is he got
Speaker 1: carried from the numbers and you and I'm just thinking, seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm young, break his leg. I mean, just you know,
Speaker 1: like put your foot around his and trip him and
Speaker 1: trip him. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah boom. But
Speaker 1: that's I mean those balls the midfield with eleven seconds
Speaker 1: to go, Yeah, they had they don't have a time out, yea.
Speaker 1: So at that point they're gonna try something. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try something in the ten to fifteen yard range outside
Speaker 1: and you know you play that defense where you just
Speaker 1: wall the side. We've seen it it an Oxnard a
Speaker 1: thousand times, where they wall the wall the sidelines and
Speaker 1: even if they throw it in the middle, they can't
Speaker 1: get up fast enough let him. Did you see you
Speaker 1: just don't right? Yeah? I thought this was a great play.
Speaker 1: I think it was in the sean right late in
Speaker 1: the game. The guy went down on the ground, he
Speaker 1: didn't even touch him, Yeah, and he like gets up
Speaker 1: and then he tackles. I'm like, that's pretty smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: waste some time, but yeah, that cursed play, that was it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get him down that they have to
Speaker 1: they may even try hell mary there. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of options. Yeah, I bring it
Speaker 1: back to that real quick. Nick started steering the conversation
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I think that I was too. Problem problem. Well,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say about Dak and I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's a bit unfair the way that
Speaker 1: he's being criticized specifically or this game. You look at
Speaker 1: the comment all day, yes, or Dack is trash, he sucks,
Speaker 1: get him out of here, He's not gonna get us
Speaker 1: anywhere to trade him, blah blah blah. And then the
Speaker 1: thing is, I understand the frustration, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I'm specifically talking about this game, I think fans
Speaker 1: tend to look at the end result of like the interception,
Speaker 1: but when you go back and actually look how the
Speaker 1: plate happened and what led to that moment. The first
Speaker 1: one we talked about Jason Peters, and I think Jason
Speaker 1: Peters it's starting to show his age because what he
Speaker 1: does is he starts good, but then it's like, for example,
Speaker 1: in that interception, the first one, he got the he
Speaker 1: has the guy has the guy, but then it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: he gives up. He doesn't stay with the saying. He thinks,
Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, I think I got it, I got it,
Speaker 1: and then he lets go and then his guy gets
Speaker 1: off and makes whatever play. So I think in this play.
Speaker 1: I would blame Peters for that one because you hit
Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks arm right there, it's gonna throw off
Speaker 1: your throwing. He had Dalton Shoultz right there in view
Speaker 1: and that led to the past going way too hide.
Speaker 1: By the way, Peters was also responsible for one of
Speaker 1: those interceptions last week as well, same thing. So I
Speaker 1: think it's just he's not a finisher. He doesn't finish
Speaker 1: the play and stay there. And I think it's because
Speaker 1: of his age, because you can see how he just
Speaker 1: kind of slows down a little. Let me ask you, so,
Speaker 1: do you think it's the age or do you think
Speaker 1: it's the right side, because I don't know that we've
Speaker 1: seen that level of and I don't want to call
Speaker 1: it incompetence, but that level of the not being able
Speaker 1: to stay in blocks on the left side when he's
Speaker 1: played on the left side and the right side is
Speaker 1: where I've seen over the last couple of weeks he's
Speaker 1: had some places where he's just like, dude, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Hold your block? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And that, to me, I think the right side may
Speaker 1: be as much, if not more, to blame than the age.
Speaker 1: But what do you think I think the change of sides,
Speaker 1: it does affect. I mean, anytime you put it in
Speaker 1: a player out of their normal position, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: some kind of struggle for the most part. But I
Speaker 1: think overall, if he was the guy being out there
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I don't think he would be the
Speaker 1: right guy for you because he just can't. He It's
Speaker 1: just he wears off as the game goes, so to
Speaker 1: me guess one side kind of exposes him more. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, all in all, in general, I
Speaker 1: think he's just not the type of player that you
Speaker 1: can have out there the whole time. Now, in the
Speaker 1: last interception, I mean that Noah Brown, he should have
Speaker 1: definitely got that freaking pass. And another thing that's really
Speaker 1: frustrating of that play and how the game ended. You
Speaker 1: go over time the Jaguars have the ball, then it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: they don't score anything. Then you get you get the
Speaker 1: ball back, and I'm thinking based on the rule and
Speaker 1: Nick reminded me, reminded us in the game about you know,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do here is if you get to
Speaker 1: the forty, Yeah, get their score a field goal. That's it.
Speaker 1: But do you can we talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a and then she goes you know,
Speaker 1: you say, oh, McCarthy. But as far as the play
Speaker 1: calling in that and when that started, when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got the ball there and what led to you now
Speaker 1: having to throw that pass was a play calling for
Speaker 1: that whole series. The right type of call are you
Speaker 1: talking about for the series where just before you no
Speaker 1: no no in overtime we talked about the one before
Speaker 1: the gaming that in the fourth quarter you're talking about
Speaker 1: over time. You're talking about the first first play they
Speaker 1: Pollart runs left for twenty one yards, then the second one,
Speaker 1: Polot runs left for six yards. Third Polot runs up
Speaker 1: the middle for no game, and then the interception. That's
Speaker 1: okay because McCarthy, you know, he talked about this, you've
Speaker 1: played too. It's like would you rather played to win
Speaker 1: or playing not to lose? And he's like, okay, what
Speaker 1: was the right decision here on how you handle those
Speaker 1: plays right there? That combination where now you're left to
Speaker 1: having to throw that kind of past semessages? What did
Speaker 1: you not like about that sequence? Because it looked like
Speaker 1: to me, that's a pretty successful sequence. It was working.
Speaker 1: It was working. My thing is why if you're finishing
Speaker 1: off the fourth quarter with a pass that they didn't
Speaker 1: work towards Noah brown on the left side, why are
Speaker 1: we kind of redoing it here to end the game?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, well, I'll say for myself,
Speaker 1: she's talking about the use of personnel. I believe I
Speaker 1: get that. But the way I look at it is, Okay,
Speaker 1: you weren't getting anything from Gallop Ceedee Lamb. Like you said,
Speaker 1: the defense was like, we're not letting CD beat on
Speaker 1: the ball that went down the sidelines to Noah Brownie
Speaker 1: was triple covered on the play. Yeah, they were not
Speaker 1: gonna let him have that. So so you got those
Speaker 1: two situations. And then, by the way, let's let's also
Speaker 1: be honest on that play where the interception happened. He
Speaker 1: had I mean, he was open, he was open. Dak
Speaker 1: threw the ball exactly where he needed to go. I
Speaker 1: don't look at that as bad play call. I don't
Speaker 1: even look at that necessarily as bad execution on Dak
Speaker 1: or anybody else other than Noah just dropped the ball
Speaker 1: and batted it up, like yeah, that's the problem. It was.
Speaker 1: It was just he just he had a he had
Speaker 1: a bad moment, and and those are the kind of
Speaker 1: things where and by the way, outside of that, it
Speaker 1: was interesting and where you were telling me this morning,
Speaker 1: there was some discussions going on among some people you
Speaker 1: were talking to about some content we were getting ready for,
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we were looking for a
Speaker 1: guy that we wanted to say he kind of had
Speaker 1: a good game, and they threw out Noah Brown. And
Speaker 1: that's the problem. The problem is Noah had that horrible moment.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, he was Noah had a pretty decent
Speaker 1: game for who Noah Brown is, right, borderline player of
Speaker 1: the game. I guess what bothers me really is when
Speaker 1: you get in a situation like that where you know, okay,
Speaker 1: you just got to get to field goal range so
Speaker 1: you can score a field goal win the game. I
Speaker 1: guess I've become more conservative, and I guess I would
Speaker 1: rather hold off on passing and just try to keep
Speaker 1: running the ball. What was that I was third and
Speaker 1: four though, I mean run run for un for six yards,
Speaker 1: run for zero yards. Yeah, that's how you got the
Speaker 1: run for zero was the problem. The problem was they
Speaker 1: didn't block the back side. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you can run a counter and not block the
Speaker 1: back side because a plenty of time develop. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that was kind of a strange. I mean they
Speaker 1: ran a counter a couple of times in this game
Speaker 1: for not you know, and that's kind of where you're at.
Speaker 1: You have used Zeke in one of those because you
Speaker 1: went Paul paular Poular. I think you needed you were
Speaker 1: looking for. You got twenty yards on a play, on
Speaker 1: an explosive play. I just think that feels a little
Speaker 1: bit to me like second guessing, like after the fact.
Speaker 1: To me, I look at at that that drive was
Speaker 1: working and that should have been a I mean that
Speaker 1: that third and four him run across what they should
Speaker 1: have caught that and that should have been a first
Speaker 1: down to year and then you get moving and then
Speaker 1: you keep running. Yeah, and you can you just moment
Speaker 1: you get you get into field goal range and you
Speaker 1: you know, you get to the thirty five. Well, Schultz's numbers,
Speaker 1: I don't have my stats with me. What Schultz was
Speaker 1: four targets, two receptions for fifteen yards long and nine
Speaker 1: I mean ceedee Lamb getting double teamed and triple teamed
Speaker 1: and somebody gallop galla Schultz. I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are making ten to eleven
Speaker 1: million dollars a year that need to to step up
Speaker 1: because I mean, you have to have that. I mean
Speaker 1: A J. Brown is kicking ass for Philly, but DeVante Smith,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get double team him because DeVante
Speaker 1: and they got they got other guys. And that's that's
Speaker 1: what the problem is, is that gallop And she said
Speaker 1: it that was a huge issue. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna double team a guy, I'm gonna make you pay
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, But moments like this, like that, towards
Speaker 1: that end, I think that's when guys, whatever it is
Speaker 1: a tight end, those are the guys that you need
Speaker 1: to use in moments like those where they've been good,
Speaker 1: they've worked for dact like that has always been kind
Speaker 1: of the security blanket for him. Just throwing those passes
Speaker 1: to the tight ends and they disappear. We barely saw
Speaker 1: anything really well. They miss they miss Ferguson yesterday. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought, because he does give them that versatility of
Speaker 1: being there. He's a good run blocker, he's also a
Speaker 1: good pass catcher. I mean, he's he's what you're you
Speaker 1: want to be as a complete tight end. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they lost because to him, but but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's good for a couple of first downs.
Speaker 1: He's good to to to block and extend drives. So
Speaker 1: that was that was a tough loss for him. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's take our final break. When we
Speaker 1: come back. I want to dive in a little bit
Speaker 1: more on the defense, specifically because I agree with you, Nick,
Speaker 1: I think the problems yesterday we're far more on the
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. Final segment of the Break Life in that
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and Amber. I see
Speaker 1: a little bit of a smile over there. You're feeling better,
Speaker 1: I can tell yeah, I see, I see a little
Speaker 1: bit of it. She'll feel a lot better if you
Speaker 1: buy her lunch today. No, no, really, Now, she's not
Speaker 1: driven by food like I am like me Derek and
Speaker 1: Nick everything. Derek has the food in the press box. Oh,
Speaker 1: it'll make me grumpy, man, bad food makes me grumpy.
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Speaker 1: I worked there for a Year's a lot of things
Speaker 1: about the trip and all that and everything. That's the
Speaker 1: thing that sucked about it. Derek couldn't find a place
Speaker 1: to jog on Sunday morning. Yes, that was on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Was then you're in the half yeah, by Sunday, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to sleep. That's a whole one. It was
Speaker 1: just that's right, and some good food. And they didn't
Speaker 1: get one sticker. No, I didn't need one of those.
Speaker 1: I haven't done that before, you know. But you don't
Speaker 1: just add him up like you really did something good.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's talk about this defense man.
Speaker 1: Yesterday they gave up one hundred and ninety two yards
Speaker 1: on the ground a seven point one average on the
Speaker 1: ground against the Jaguars one rushing yes, yeah, yes. Fifty
Speaker 1: two of it was from Agnew in the Jet sweep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I know when I got the stat
Speaker 1: sheet that you gave me, I literally looked at it
Speaker 1: and immediately jumped. That number jumped to me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that didn't feel like one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: two yard rushing day, but it was one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety two yard rushing day. And uh and and you
Speaker 1: look at that, and we know their challenges all year,
Speaker 1: we thought they had started to kind of make that better.
Speaker 1: So my question is, was what we saw yesterday reflection
Speaker 1: of two particular players that weren't there, like Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh and Jonathan Hankins And a little more than that too.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care what the fans think about
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. He's a good, solid player. He's not great,
Speaker 1: but he's solid. And he gives up a player too,
Speaker 1: that's fine. There's a lot that he doesn't give up.
Speaker 1: And he also changes the way you cover and you
Speaker 1: don't have to play defense. They had to protect those
Speaker 1: defensive backs the best they could and so you're doing
Speaker 1: that and you don't have your middle linebacker, you don't
Speaker 1: have your defensive tackle that it's helping you stop the
Speaker 1: run so and you're playing like you can't just let Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph and those guys just just go a deep because
Speaker 1: they're gonna score touchdowns. So it's a combination of everything.
Speaker 1: Uggs can't cover everyone. He can't, I mean obviously, and
Speaker 1: and you know he had some issues, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I think for the most part he was fine. But
Speaker 1: I think it's a snowball effect at Hankins Layton and
Speaker 1: then the way you have to cover on defense, they
Speaker 1: are missing, I mean, their cornerback depth is very very
Speaker 1: often they get exposed when they can't pass rush though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. You know, sometimes when you able to
Speaker 1: get guys home or create you know, create pressure, then
Speaker 1: they don't see open guys. And that happened I think
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday. I mean that that quarterback looked
Speaker 1: way way too comfortable throwing the football, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's all of a sudden. Now that's on the secondary
Speaker 1: to have to cover, and Nick's right there. There are
Speaker 1: times when you're seeing Hooker he's cheated over to the
Speaker 1: side of Joseph. You know, it's not something that when
Speaker 1: you watch y'all twenty two, you're like, he's cheating. He's cheating.
Speaker 1: He's cheating again. It's not the ball's not going over there.
Speaker 1: But you know that hooker is very mindful of what's
Speaker 1: going on at left corner, you know, and they're they're
Speaker 1: they're in a situation. I'll be interested to see what
Speaker 1: they do if maybe this McKenzie Alexander who they sign,
Speaker 1: he's a slot player, do you put him in the
Speaker 1: mix in the slot and just put Bland on the
Speaker 1: outside and go there and then work right and if
Speaker 1: you want to work Joseph and stuff in there too,
Speaker 1: or just put Joseph back on the special teams and
Speaker 1: let him be the gunner and all that stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But they can't go with Kelvin Joseph anymore at this point,
Speaker 1: can they. Well, the problem with Kevin Kelvin Joseph in
Speaker 1: the game the other day is if you watch again
Speaker 1: the All twenty two, it's cover, it's cover, it's good play,
Speaker 1: it's cover. He's up, he's you know, he's in the tackle,
Speaker 1: he's covering, and then all of a sudden they play
Speaker 1: off and he plays back and now it's like you're
Speaker 1: asking him to make a decision from depth and the
Speaker 1: double moves Yeah, he bit on it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. When you play him up, he's either
Speaker 1: gonna cover or he's gonna hold. And you know, but
Speaker 1: he hasn't been getting called for holding he or a passenger,
Speaker 1: or he hadn't been getting called. So to me, when
Speaker 1: you play him depth, you're asking him, you're putting them
Speaker 1: in that situation where a lot of these guys are
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, okay, I gotta drive on
Speaker 1: this because the ball is gonna be you know, we
Speaker 1: got a great pass rush, Ball's coming out quick. You
Speaker 1: know that some of these corners are like, you know,
Speaker 1: our our rush is helping us here. You know. And
Speaker 1: now when you know, when you play a depth with him,
Speaker 1: that's that's a struggle. That's a real struggle for him.
Speaker 1: And you know that's but and but on they also
Speaker 1: on the on the one, the second touchdown, he gave
Speaker 1: up though again some pushing going off, you know, guys
Speaker 1: dipping into him, working back outside you know, Jones, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, putting a shoulder in him. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to be able to you got to be able
Speaker 1: to combat that. You can't just let them bully you
Speaker 1: out there. And you can. He's trying to read. I'm
Speaker 1: not making excuses for the kid. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: when you play him in off coverage, which he got
Speaker 1: burned on, that's his biggest issue right there. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna that's a wrap for today, But tomorrow I
Speaker 1: really want to dive in deeper on this defense and
Speaker 1: on Mica and on all the players. Where you start,
Speaker 1: where you started looking at what's going on with this
Speaker 1: defense and what they were earlier in the season to
Speaker 1: what they have become now and how much of a
Speaker 1: problem it is, maybe even how they can get back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow. Until then, for Nick even
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