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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It's Monday, December nineteenth, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break Life and Nest WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

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Speaker 1: we are presented by millerlike the only Beer of the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and Uh, this game that we saw yesterday,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to take from it, and I'm certain

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Speaker 1: that there are lots of people out there listening right

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Speaker 1: even really know what to make of this team at

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Speaker 1: this point. It's our jobs to give you a little context.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna try to do here over

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Speaker 1: the next forty five minutes, to give you a little

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Speaker 1: context of what we thought saw yesterday, what things we

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Speaker 1: saw that were good and bad, and what things maybe

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Speaker 1: were about yesterday what things may be bigger picture that

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Speaker 1: can be problems for the Cowboys. They kind of backed

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs at this point, so they are officially

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Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs, just don't necessarily know

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Speaker 1: at what spot and with who though he playing in

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Speaker 1: the first round. But let's start. Cowboys lose forty to

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Speaker 1: thirty four in overtime. Give me the big picture that

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Speaker 1: you take out of this game. Nick, Let's start with you. M.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is not is not what it was and

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Speaker 1: whatever the reason is, and a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: because of injury. You can't just keep having injuries. But

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Speaker 1: but there's it's more to it than that. It's a

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Speaker 1: bigger problem. And you know, they just couldn't they couldn't

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Speaker 1: get them off the field there. I mean, the offense

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Speaker 1: has got it it's problems as well, but they scored

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Speaker 1: enough points to win that game. And the defense, I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if they can continue to take some

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Speaker 1: have a huge, huge problem at cornerback amber. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff, by the way, Yeah, a lot, no

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Speaker 1: but done, I'm serious, Like that's where we Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what we saw. Yeah, um, I just feel I don't

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Speaker 1: tough loss, but the way they started the game in

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Speaker 1: the first half, it I thought by by halftime this

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Speaker 1: was over. Basically they had this in the bag. I'm like, okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: they did. They're really good. I thought Kellen Moore came

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Speaker 1: I don't feel good whatsoever on what's happening on defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm extremely concerned at corner with Kelvin Joseph and what's

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Speaker 1: I don't know how who they could even bring at

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Speaker 1: Right now, you get a right tackle, you figured out

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Speaker 1: You know, with the drive I hated it came down

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Speaker 1: be that that more experienced gab Brian, You've been talking

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Speaker 1: right tackle. Do you think it's time to kind of

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Speaker 1: retire that thought of him being able to do that,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think he's been good at that, not

430
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Speaker 1: as good as he's been when he's been on the left.

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Speaker 1: You you you, you, you played it the right way.

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Speaker 1: I know Nick was probably losing his mind in the

433
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: press box about you know, him standing like seventy seven

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Speaker 1: standing over there waiting to get into game. But they're really,

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Speaker 1: as we all know, they're big on the ramp up stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, before the game we were learning about t

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Speaker 1: Y Hilton wasn't ready. Dada da da da. You know

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Speaker 1: that we're going to start seeing things like we don't

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Speaker 1: care anymore. Okay, t Y Hilton, you're playing now washing

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Speaker 1: ten anybody else, bum You're gonna stand over here. Hey,

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00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: by the way, Peters, you could back up over on

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Speaker 1: the left side. Back up over there to Smith. Ball,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be backside. You're gonna back up Tyron Smith

444
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: over here. They figured it out. Just go ahead, play

445
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: the five guys played, Tyron Smith. Get through this. That

446
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: part of it was a very positive experience for you

447
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: yesterday playing football. So yeah, the Peterston needs to be

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Speaker 1: him back on the left side, him being a backup,

449
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: and then Tyron Smith and Ball being on that right side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it looked very comfortable playing over there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he did. He did fine. I think the offense,

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Speaker 1: I mean they they moved the ball when they needed to.

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Speaker 1: I mean they drove down the field and scored. Then

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Speaker 1: then and over time they lost. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: their problems are on defense, I really do. I mean,

456
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Speaker 1: but to stick with what you're saying here about Dak,

457
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: I thought Dak played pretty well in the game. I

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Speaker 1: thought the drive there at the end of the game

459
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Speaker 1: was was a really good probably should have won the

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Speaker 1: game for them. And if it did, I mean, that

461
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: is a Romo like play, just spinning backwards like that

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Speaker 1: and all that and a great throw and I mean

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Speaker 1: no I mean or Brian made a catch right off

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Speaker 1: the right, off the ground, you know, but they back

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Speaker 1: to back catches to get in that drive. And Noah,

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00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: Brian had a clutch catch against Houston, I mean like

467
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: last week Cincinnati, Cincinnati. I mean, so he's had some

468
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: moments there. He dropped that one. Um and you know

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Speaker 1: another thing too, like I give credit to the officials.

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Speaker 1: They didn't really didn't call much in that game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the penalties were. They didn't seem like

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Speaker 1: it was a lot that was had three It was

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Speaker 1: a pretty clean Ever since I've made my proclamation that

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Speaker 1: they will never ever fix the penalty thing. They fixed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, sometimes you're at the mercy of these officials,

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Speaker 1: you really are. Look what happened last night to the

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Speaker 1: commandersh my god. Yeah yeah, but that uh good for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That was good good, But that's a block

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Speaker 1: in the back on Dak I'm sorry. They're probably still

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Speaker 1: gonna lose, you think, ye I disagreed you a little

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Speaker 1: bit on that because I thought it was kind of

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Speaker 1: like it was kind of on the side. I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been a it could go either way.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't hardcore that had to be a penalty like

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Speaker 1: to me that that could go either way. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the one they would have got probably

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Speaker 1: twe yards he kicked the field. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: think of the play or go back in my mind.

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Speaker 1: The play that they missed I thought was awful was

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Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk catching the ball late in the game.

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Speaker 1: That was a clear push off on right. He used

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Speaker 1: two hands and shoved right to make the Yeah, the ball,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they get a first down out of the

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Speaker 1: out of the thing. But he two hands shoves right

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Speaker 1: on the play, and you're like, when, okay, I get it,

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Speaker 1: you're letting a play. It wasn't like you run into

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Speaker 1: the guy and then turned back for the ball. It

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00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: is he runs and basically you see his hands extended

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Speaker 1: and then he comes back and Right's kind of like

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Speaker 1: knocked back off the play and then they you know,

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Speaker 1: they get a first down on Sean Wright was going

502
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Speaker 1: to win the game for him. I thought that tackle

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Speaker 1: that he made and he sacrificed himself because he got

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Speaker 1: he kind of knocked himself out of for a second.

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Speaker 1: But it was third down and in overtime, right eat

506
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Speaker 1: n I mean they were flying. That was a colleague.

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00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: Was that the screen? Yeah? Yeah, the screen. Yeah, they

508
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: get off the field. They got off the field, and

509
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: then they're gonna punt it to Turpin and they're gonna

510
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Speaker 1: go win this game. That's what I thought. I thought

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Speaker 1: that Nishan right was gonna, you know, make that play,

512
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: and and you know, they were just trying to get

513
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: creative and to do things and not put Kelvin Joseph

514
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Speaker 1: in the game. That's that's what I think. The problem is,

515
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Speaker 1: is it? I thought, and Brian, you could correct me here.

516
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: I thought mcquamu came down to play some corner at

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Speaker 1: some point, or at least they played a package where

518
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Speaker 1: mcquamo was out there, Marquis Bell was out there for

519
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: two plays, and and Marquis Bell was a lost guy

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00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: on two plays. I mean the ball a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: he did not see it. Very This is a kid

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Speaker 1: that did just has not had many opportunities to do

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Speaker 1: anything and getting him out there, I could see maybe

524
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Speaker 1: you need a break for somebody. But it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a struggle for him. The playoffs struggle.

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Speaker 1: It was the fourth It was the drive was they

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Speaker 1: got the ball with one on one left. It is

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Speaker 1: the final drive. You get the drop by Jones, and

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Speaker 1: then you get the twist doesn't go home. They throw

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Speaker 1: another ball to Jones, and then and then the ball

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Speaker 1: to Kirk and and then you know that's it, and

532
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: then you get the after that, then the very next

533
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: play is the chance for Armstrong to get the sack

534
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: and they flip it, just flings it to the running

535
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: back and it gets out of bounce. Yeah, you know that.

536
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: That was to me. I mean there were like three

537
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Speaker 1: killer plays in a row. The two hand shove I

538
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: thought they missed it was uh OPI the miss sack

539
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: by Armstrong, not getting Lawrence to the ground, and then

540
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: and then and then curse not being able to tackle

541
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Speaker 1: at the numbers. I mean, this is not a this

542
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: is not a close. I mean, this is he got

543
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: carried from the numbers and you and I'm just thinking, seriously,

544
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: I'm young, break his leg. I mean, just you know,

545
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: like put your foot around his and trip him and

546
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: trip him. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah boom. But

547
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: that's I mean those balls the midfield with eleven seconds

548
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: to go, Yeah, they had they don't have a time out, yea.

549
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: So at that point they're gonna try something. They're gonna

550
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: try something in the ten to fifteen yard range outside

551
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: and you know you play that defense where you just

552
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: wall the side. We've seen it it an Oxnard a

553
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: thousand times, where they wall the wall the sidelines and

554
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: even if they throw it in the middle, they can't

555
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: get up fast enough let him. Did you see you

556
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: just don't right? Yeah? I thought this was a great play.

557
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: I think it was in the sean right late in

558
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: the game. The guy went down on the ground, he

559
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: didn't even touch him, Yeah, and he like gets up

560
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: and then he tackles. I'm like, that's pretty smart. Yeah,

561
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: waste some time, but yeah, that cursed play, that was it.

562
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you get him down that they have to

563
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: they may even try hell mary there. Yeah, yeah, you

564
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of options. Yeah, I bring it

565
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: back to that real quick. Nick started steering the conversation

566
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I think that I was too. Problem problem. Well,

567
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say about Dak and I think

568
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's a bit unfair the way that

569
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: he's being criticized specifically or this game. You look at

570
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: the comment all day, yes, or Dack is trash, he sucks,

571
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: get him out of here, He's not gonna get us

572
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: anywhere to trade him, blah blah blah. And then the

573
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: thing is, I understand the frustration, but at the same time,

574
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: and I'm specifically talking about this game, I think fans

575
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: tend to look at the end result of like the interception,

576
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: but when you go back and actually look how the

577
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: plate happened and what led to that moment. The first

578
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: one we talked about Jason Peters, and I think Jason

579
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Peters it's starting to show his age because what he

580
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: does is he starts good, but then it's like, for example,

581
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: in that interception, the first one, he got the he

582
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: has the guy has the guy, but then it's like, okay,

583
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: he gives up. He doesn't stay with the saying. He thinks,

584
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, I think I got it, I got it,

585
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: and then he lets go and then his guy gets

586
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: off and makes whatever play. So I think in this play.

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00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: I would blame Peters for that one because you hit

588
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks arm right there, it's gonna throw off

589
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: your throwing. He had Dalton Shoultz right there in view

590
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: and that led to the past going way too hide.

591
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: By the way, Peters was also responsible for one of

592
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: those interceptions last week as well, same thing. So I

593
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: think it's just he's not a finisher. He doesn't finish

594
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: the play and stay there. And I think it's because

595
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: of his age, because you can see how he just

596
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of slows down a little. Let me ask you, so,

597
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: do you think it's the age or do you think

598
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: it's the right side, because I don't know that we've

599
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: seen that level of and I don't want to call

600
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: it incompetence, but that level of the not being able

601
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: to stay in blocks on the left side when he's

602
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: played on the left side and the right side is

603
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: where I've seen over the last couple of weeks he's

604
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: had some places where he's just like, dude, what are

605
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: you doing? Hold your block? Like what are you doing?

606
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: And that, to me, I think the right side may

607
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: be as much, if not more, to blame than the age.

608
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: But what do you think I think the change of sides,

609
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: it does affect. I mean, anytime you put it in

610
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: a player out of their normal position, you're gonna see

611
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: some kind of struggle for the most part. But I

612
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: think overall, if he was the guy being out there

613
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I don't think he would be the

614
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: right guy for you because he just can't. He It's

615
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: just he wears off as the game goes, so to

616
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: me guess one side kind of exposes him more. But

617
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: at the same time, all in all, in general, I

618
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: think he's just not the type of player that you

619
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: can have out there the whole time. Now, in the

620
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: last interception, I mean that Noah Brown, he should have

621
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: definitely got that freaking pass. And another thing that's really

622
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: frustrating of that play and how the game ended. You

623
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: go over time the Jaguars have the ball, then it's like, okay,

624
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: they don't score anything. Then you get you get the

625
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: ball back, and I'm thinking based on the rule and

626
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Nick reminded me, reminded us in the game about you know,

627
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: all you gotta do here is if you get to

628
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: the forty, Yeah, get their score a field goal. That's it.

629
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: But do you can we talk about that a little bit.

630
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a and then she goes you know,

631
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: you say, oh, McCarthy. But as far as the play

632
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: calling in that and when that started, when the Cowboys

633
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: got the ball there and what led to you now

634
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: having to throw that pass was a play calling for

635
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that whole series. The right type of call are you

636
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: talking about for the series where just before you no

637
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: no no in overtime we talked about the one before

638
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: the gaming that in the fourth quarter you're talking about

639
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: over time. You're talking about the first first play they

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Speaker 1: Pollart runs left for twenty one yards, then the second one,

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Speaker 1: Polot runs left for six yards. Third Polot runs up

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Speaker 1: the middle for no game, and then the interception. That's

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Speaker 1: okay because McCarthy, you know, he talked about this, you've

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Speaker 1: played too. It's like would you rather played to win

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Speaker 1: or playing not to lose? And he's like, okay, what

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Speaker 1: was the right decision here on how you handle those

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Speaker 1: plays right there? That combination where now you're left to

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Speaker 1: having to throw that kind of past semessages? What did

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Speaker 1: you not like about that sequence? Because it looked like

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Speaker 1: to me, that's a pretty successful sequence. It was working.

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Speaker 1: It was working. My thing is why if you're finishing

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Speaker 1: off the fourth quarter with a pass that they didn't

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Speaker 1: work towards Noah brown on the left side, why are

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Speaker 1: we kind of redoing it here to end the game?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, well, I'll say for myself,

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Speaker 1: she's talking about the use of personnel. I believe I

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Speaker 1: get that. But the way I look at it is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you weren't getting anything from Gallop Ceedee Lamb. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: the defense was like, we're not letting CD beat on

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Speaker 1: the ball that went down the sidelines to Noah Brownie

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Speaker 1: was triple covered on the play. Yeah, they were not

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Speaker 1: gonna let him have that. So so you got those

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Speaker 1: two situations. And then, by the way, let's let's also

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Speaker 1: be honest on that play where the interception happened. He

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Speaker 1: had I mean, he was open, he was open. Dak

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Speaker 1: threw the ball exactly where he needed to go. I

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Speaker 1: don't look at that as bad play call. I don't

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Speaker 1: even look at that necessarily as bad execution on Dak

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Speaker 1: or anybody else other than Noah just dropped the ball

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Speaker 1: and batted it up, like yeah, that's the problem. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was just he just he had a he had

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Speaker 1: a bad moment, and and those are the kind of

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Speaker 1: things where and by the way, outside of that, it

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Speaker 1: was interesting and where you were telling me this morning,

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Speaker 1: there was some discussions going on among some people you

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Speaker 1: were talking to about some content we were getting ready for,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we were looking for a

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Speaker 1: guy that we wanted to say he kind of had

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Speaker 1: a good game, and they threw out Noah Brown. And

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. The problem is Noah had that horrible moment.

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Speaker 1: Prior to that, he was Noah had a pretty decent

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Speaker 1: game for who Noah Brown is, right, borderline player of

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Speaker 1: the game. I guess what bothers me really is when

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Speaker 1: you get in a situation like that where you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: you just got to get to field goal range so

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Speaker 1: you can score a field goal win the game. I

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Speaker 1: guess I've become more conservative, and I guess I would

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Speaker 1: rather hold off on passing and just try to keep

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Speaker 1: running the ball. What was that I was third and

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Speaker 1: four though, I mean run run for un for six yards,

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Speaker 1: run for zero yards. Yeah, that's how you got the

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Speaker 1: run for zero was the problem. The problem was they

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Speaker 1: didn't block the back side. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you can run a counter and not block the

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Speaker 1: back side because a plenty of time develop. Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that was kind of a strange. I mean they

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Speaker 1: ran a counter a couple of times in this game

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Speaker 1: for not you know, and that's kind of where you're at.

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Speaker 1: You have used Zeke in one of those because you

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Speaker 1: went Paul paular Poular. I think you needed you were

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Speaker 1: looking for. You got twenty yards on a play, on

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Speaker 1: an explosive play. I just think that feels a little

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Speaker 1: bit to me like second guessing, like after the fact.

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Speaker 1: To me, I look at at that that drive was

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Speaker 1: working and that should have been a I mean that

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Speaker 1: that third and four him run across what they should

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Speaker 1: have caught that and that should have been a first

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Speaker 1: down to year and then you get moving and then

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Speaker 1: you keep running. Yeah, and you can you just moment

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Speaker 1: you get you get into field goal range and you

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Speaker 1: you know, you get to the thirty five. Well, Schultz's numbers,

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Speaker 1: I don't have my stats with me. What Schultz was

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Speaker 1: four targets, two receptions for fifteen yards long and nine

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Speaker 1: I mean ceedee Lamb getting double teamed and triple teamed

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Speaker 1: and somebody gallop galla Schultz. I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are making ten to eleven

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year that need to to step up

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you have to have that. I mean

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown is kicking ass for Philly, but DeVante Smith,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get double team him because DeVante

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Speaker 1: and they got they got other guys. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: what the problem is, is that gallop And she said

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Speaker 1: it that was a huge issue. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna double team a guy, I'm gonna make you pay

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Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, But moments like this, like that, towards

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Speaker 1: that end, I think that's when guys, whatever it is

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Speaker 1: they've worked for dact like that has always been kind

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Speaker 1: of the security blanket for him. Just throwing those passes

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Speaker 1: to the tight ends and they disappear. We barely saw

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Speaker 1: anything really well. They miss they miss Ferguson yesterday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I thought, because he does give them that versatility of

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Speaker 1: being there. He's a good run blocker, he's also a

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Speaker 1: good pass catcher. I mean, he's he's what you're you

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Speaker 1: want to be as a complete tight end. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying they lost because to him, but but you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's good for a couple of first downs.

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Speaker 1: He's good to to to block and extend drives. So

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Speaker 1: that was that was a tough loss for him. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's take our final break. When we

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Speaker 1: more on the defense, specifically because I agree with you, Nick,

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Speaker 1: I think the problems yesterday we're far more on the

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Speaker 1: I can tell yeah, I see, I see a little

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Speaker 1: buy her lunch today. No, no, really, Now, she's not

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Speaker 1: driven by food like I am like me Derek and

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Speaker 1: Nick everything. Derek has the food in the press box. Oh,

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Speaker 1: to jog on Sunday morning. Yes, that was on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Was then you're in the half yeah, by Sunday, I

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Speaker 1: I haven't done that before, you know. But you don't

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Speaker 1: just add him up like you really did something good.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's talk about this defense man.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday they gave up one hundred and ninety two yards

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Speaker 1: on the ground a seven point one average on the

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Speaker 1: ground against the Jaguars one rushing yes, yeah, yes. Fifty

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Speaker 1: two of it was from Agnew in the Jet sweep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I know when I got the stat

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Speaker 1: was like, that didn't feel like one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: two yard rushing day, but it was one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety two yard rushing day. And uh and and you

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Speaker 1: look at that, and we know their challenges all year,

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Speaker 1: we thought they had started to kind of make that better.

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Speaker 1: So my question is, was what we saw yesterday reflection

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Speaker 1: of two particular players that weren't there, like Layton vander

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Speaker 1: esh and Jonathan Hankins And a little more than that too.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't care what the fans think about

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. He's a good, solid player. He's not great,

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Speaker 1: but he's solid. And he gives up a player too,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. There's a lot that he doesn't give up.

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Speaker 1: And he also changes the way you cover and you

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Speaker 1: don't have to play defense. They had to protect those

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Speaker 1: defensive backs the best they could and so you're doing

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Speaker 1: that and you don't have your middle linebacker, you don't

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Speaker 1: have your defensive tackle that it's helping you stop the

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Speaker 1: run so and you're playing like you can't just let Kelvin,

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Speaker 1: Joseph and those guys just just go a deep because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna score touchdowns. So it's a combination of everything.

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Speaker 1: Uggs can't cover everyone. He can't, I mean obviously, and

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Speaker 1: and you know he had some issues, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think for the most part he was fine. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's a snowball effect at Hankins Layton and

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Speaker 1: then the way you have to cover on defense, they

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Speaker 1: are missing, I mean, their cornerback depth is very very

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Speaker 1: often they get exposed when they can't pass rush though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. You know, sometimes when you able to

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Speaker 1: get guys home or create you know, create pressure, then

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Speaker 1: they don't see open guys. And that happened I think

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Speaker 1: that's all of a sudden. Now that's on the secondary

851
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: to have to cover, and Nick's right there. There are

852
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: times when you're seeing Hooker he's cheated over to the

853
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: side of Joseph. You know, it's not something that when

854
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: you watch y'all twenty two, you're like, he's cheating. He's cheating.

855
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: He's cheating again. It's not the ball's not going over there.

856
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: But you know that hooker is very mindful of what's

857
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: going on at left corner, you know, and they're they're

858
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: they're in a situation. I'll be interested to see what

859
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: they do if maybe this McKenzie Alexander who they sign,

860
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: he's a slot player, do you put him in the

861
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: mix in the slot and just put Bland on the

862
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: outside and go there and then work right and if

863
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: you want to work Joseph and stuff in there too,

864
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: or just put Joseph back on the special teams and

865
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: let him be the gunner and all that stuff like that.

866
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: But they can't go with Kelvin Joseph anymore at this point,

867
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: can they. Well, the problem with Kevin Kelvin Joseph in

868
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: the game the other day is if you watch again

869
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the All twenty two, it's cover, it's cover, it's good play,

870
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: it's cover. He's up, he's you know, he's in the tackle,

871
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: he's covering, and then all of a sudden they play

872
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: off and he plays back and now it's like you're

873
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: asking him to make a decision from depth and the

874
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: double moves Yeah, he bit on it. That's what I'm saying.

875
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: That's the problem. When you play him up, he's either

876
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: gonna cover or he's gonna hold. And you know, but

877
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't been getting called for holding he or a passenger,

878
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: or he hadn't been getting called. So to me, when

879
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: you play him depth, you're asking him, you're putting them

880
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: in that situation where a lot of these guys are

881
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, okay, I gotta drive on

882
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: this because the ball is gonna be you know, we

883
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: got a great pass rush, Ball's coming out quick. You

884
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: know that some of these corners are like, you know,

885
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: our our rush is helping us here. You know. And

886
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: now when you know, when you play a depth with him,

887
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: that's that's a struggle. That's a real struggle for him.

888
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know that's but and but on they also

889
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: on the on the one, the second touchdown, he gave

890
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: up though again some pushing going off, you know, guys

891
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: dipping into him, working back outside you know, Jones, I mean,

892
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, putting a shoulder in him. You know, you

893
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: got to be able to you got to be able

894
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: to combat that. You can't just let them bully you

895
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: out there. And you can. He's trying to read. I'm

896
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: not making excuses for the kid. I'm just telling you

897
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: when you play him in off coverage, which he got

898
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: burned on, that's his biggest issue right there. Let's do this.

899
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna that's a wrap for today, But tomorrow I

900
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: really want to dive in deeper on this defense and

901
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: on Mica and on all the players. Where you start,

902
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: where you started looking at what's going on with this

903
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: defense and what they were earlier in the season to

904
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: what they have become now and how much of a

905
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: problem it is, maybe even how they can get back.

906
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow. Until then, for Nick even

907
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Brian brought us and regard see I'm Derek Hughelton. This

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Speaker 1: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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