1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: Second hour. Clay in Buck kicks off now. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 3: I think we will be joined shortly, hopefully by Senator 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Tom Cotton, who's got a book out. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: We're talking about national security. 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Trump's efforts to get the Russia Ukraine war to come 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: to a ceasefire, Iran, China. 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff, a lot of things to dive into. 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: And if he's jammed up and can't join us today, 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll be like Rubio where we get him 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: the next day. So in the meantime, I just wanted 13 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: to take a moment here, Clay. I'm sure you saw it. 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: These these videos of the Tronto of the plane crash, 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: the Delta Crowley. Now it's one of these crashes where 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: you could say everybody walked out of this plane. There's 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: some injuries, eighteen injuries, but nobody. We have the Senator 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: right now. Oh okay, Well, I'll come back and talk. 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: I want to get into the analysis of the Delta 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: plane crash. I've been texting my pilot, friends and family 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: all morning about it. 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: We'll get to that. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Center of Cotton appreciate you being with us, Sir, I 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: know you've got a new book out, Seven Things you 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: Can't Say about China. Why don't we start with that? 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: Actually before we got a lot of things to run 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: through with you today. But what are some things you 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: can't say about? Why can't we just say whatever we 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: want about China? This is in Germany. They're not knocking 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: down doors for memes yet. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: Thanks guys for having me on to talk about Seven 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: Things you Can't Say about China. I focused in the 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: book's title on the censorship aspect of it because it 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: highlights the pervasive influence and leverage that China has throughout America. 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: You know, you might recall five years ago, I think 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: five years ago this week in the Winner of twenty twenty, 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: that I first said the Wuhan coronavirus probably came from 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: that super lab in Wuhan, not from the food market. 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: I expected Chinese Communist officials to me for that and 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: say that it was false. But if you recall, it 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: was also piled on by lots of the American elites 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: Washington Post, CNN, The New York Times and others, in 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: part because so many American elites are met ready to 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: man the ramparts on behalf of communists China. So the 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: seven things you can't say, and I go through each 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 4: one of these chapter by chapter, is that China is 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: an evil empire. China's preparing for war, China is waging 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: in economic World war. China has infiltrated our society, China 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: has infiltrated our government. China is coming for our kids, 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: and China could win. It's that economic World War that 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: has really got China to the point of power and influence. 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: Of course, one it underwrites the massive military build up, 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: the largest in history, that allows China prepare for war, 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: but it also gives them vast influence in American and business, 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: education and cultural institutions, and our governments as well. A 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: simple and maybe well known example is Hollywood. When was 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: the last time you saw a Chinese villain in a 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: Hollywood movie. It's been a very long time, because when 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: Brad Pitt made Seven Years in Tibet in nineteen ninety seven, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: China came down on him in the studio like a 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: ton of bricks, and studio executives knew from that point forward, 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: you can't say anything bad about China, otherwise they'll cut 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: off access to the lucrative and massive Chinese movie market. 64 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: But guys, did you know, because I think a lot 65 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: of Americans don't know that every network except for Fox 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: News is owned by or affiliated with one of those 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: Hollywood studios ABC and Disney, CBS and Paramount NBC and 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: MSNBC by Comcast Universal, CNN by Warner Brothers. Is a 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: surprise those networks host to presidential debate and don't ask 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: single questions about China. That Fox News is consistently the 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: network that is strongest on China, the most clear eyed 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: about his breathday post. I don't think it is. And 73 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: that's replicated across so many segments of our society, whether 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: it's corporate America, Wall Street, professional sports, higher education, all 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: designed to protect China as it goes forward with its 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: campaign to replace America as the world's dominant military and 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: economic superpower. 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I love everything you just laid out, and it is fascinating. 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I never really thought about the overlap between the news 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: business and the Hollywood studios where I came from. Senator Cotton, 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: you may well remember World of Sports. I've never seen 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: anything like the NBA's bending of the need to China. 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: They would rip American institutions to the high heavens. It's 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: actually how they've destroyed, in my opinion, much of their brand. 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: People love basketball. They don't like being lectured by multimillionaire 86 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: athletes about how awful America is while they simultaneously bend 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: the need to China. I saw recent reports that the 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: NBA may be about to go back to China. What 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: does that impact? And I don't know how much you 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: talk about it in the book, but I think it's 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: incredibly impactful what they have allowed the NBA to do, 92 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: which is rip America to shreds while saying nothing at 93 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: all critical of China because they're afraid of what China 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: will do to them. 95 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I write about it some link to Again, I 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: think it's important that Americans know that. You know, it's 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: not just you know, Chinese spies in Washington who are 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: trying to steal intelligence or military secrets. The threat, again, 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: is pervasive and present throughout all of our lives. And 100 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: I write about professional sports and specifically the NBA because 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: the NBA is the most popular American sport in China, 102 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: and China is the NBA's largest overseas market. And if 103 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: you're called back in twenty nineteen before China finally cracked 104 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: down once and for all of Hong Kong and violated 105 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: its promises to Hong Kongers have freedom and autonomy for 106 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: fifty years after Great Britain handed Hong Kong over. In 107 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety seven, the general manager at the Houston Rockets 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: posted on social media nothing more than just an image 109 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: saying that we should stand with Hong Kong. And China 110 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: came down like a ton of bricks on the NBA 111 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: and on the Rockets in particular. They pulled NBA games 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: off of their streaming services and state television. They suspended 113 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: streaming for the Rockets in particular, they stopped selling Rockets 114 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: merchandise in their stores, They suspended cooperation with the Rockets, 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: and where was the NBA as an institution nowhere to 116 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: be found. The team didn't support him, the league didn't 117 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: support him. Social justice warriors Lebron James and Stephen Kerr, 118 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: who are bound for the Hall of Fame also didn't 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: support him. In fact, they condemned him so that he's 120 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: misinformed or that he needed to be educated on the situation. 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: Maybe I think what Lebron James mett Is that he 122 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: needed to be re educated along the lines of what 123 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: China would do. ESPN, who is not only the broadcast 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: partner of the NBA, but also again a corporate ability 125 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: of Disney that has massive operations in China, didn't even 126 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: cover the situation. But China still wasn't vacated. They demanded 127 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: that Maury be fired. Adam Silver said not, but strangely enough, 128 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: within a year he was out of a job and 129 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: the Rockets were back on TV in China. And that's 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: not the only example. The Brooklyn Nets CEO, who came 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: to his defense, one of the few figures in the 132 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: world of professional basketball who came to his defense quote unquote, 133 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: resigned after just two months on the job. And guess 134 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: who owns the Brooklyn Nets Josie who is one of 135 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: the founders of the Chinese real retail giant Ali Baba 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: and is a frequent apologist for the Chinese Communist Party. 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: Of course, that's not the only case too involving the NBA. 138 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: Remember you know our friend enus cancer Freedom. Yeah, had 139 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: long time been a voice on behalf of ordinary Turkish 140 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: people who were suffering under their own repressive government. Began 141 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: to take up because of the weaker people, a religious 142 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: and ethnic minority in northwest China that both the Trump 143 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 4: and the Biden administration said were suffering from a genocide. 144 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: Two million, maybe three million had gone into re education 145 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: camps and indoctrination and simply wore shoes that criticized Yizhen 146 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: pain or called out the plight of the Wigers, or 147 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: he stood up for Tibet, something that liberals in Hollywood 148 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: have long done. And what happened. He was cut not 149 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: too soon after from the NBA. And he's told me, 150 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: and I believe him, that he feels that he was 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: blacklisted by the NBA. This is just an example again 152 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: of the pervasive influence that China has in our country 153 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: and in our society, and it goes far beyond economic titles. Well, 154 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: every cultural institution in America faces this. You know, you've 155 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: probably heard of sister city programs that you know, American 156 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: city's partner with foreign cities. And it's fine if your 157 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: foreign city is you know, I don't know, in Spain 158 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: or South Korea or something, but in China comes with strings, 159 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: and the strings are they want to turn you into 160 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: a de facto lobbyist on behalf of communist China, not 161 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: just related to your particular city, like, oh, you know, 162 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: call your congressman, so who can get a visa to 163 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 4: come travel to your sister city in China. No, No, 164 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: tell your congressman that he should stop speaking out about 165 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: Hong Kong. 166 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: We're speaking to Senator Tom Cotton. He's got a new book. 167 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: He's got a new book out today, Seven things you 168 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: can't say about China. Can go get your copy? A 169 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Center of conton You've you've been getting some headline on 170 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: the Hill and some other places. Charlie Kirk tweeted out 171 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: something about how or I guess we call posting at 172 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: allen X. You've got some concerns. This is the first 173 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: that I've heard you've had concerns about any of the 174 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: Trump nominees. But it has to do with what we're 175 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: talking about a bit, because it would be the under 176 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense for policy at the Pentagon. Bridge Colby, 177 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: I know you've addressed this a little bit, but I'm 178 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: just wondering if you could for all of us address 179 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: is this just you want to hear more from Bridge 180 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: about where he stands now on some issues and what 181 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: can you tell us about this reporting that you have 182 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: some real reservations about a very senior level Trump Pentagon appointee. 183 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: Full disclosure, I've known Bridge for twenty years, so I 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: might be able to help fill in some gaps of 185 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: my own here, But. 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead, sure, well, with any nominee, but especially nominees 187 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: in critical national security roles at Defense or State or 188 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: the Intelligence Committee, we always want to probe their views 189 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: and see if those are aligned with the president the 190 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: president's priorities. Of course, one of the presidents highest priorities 191 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: in one of minees at the very first day I 192 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: got into the Senate is to prevent Iran from acquiring 193 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: nuclear weapons. You know, when I came to the Senate, 194 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: President Obama was in the final days of negotiating the 195 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: nuclear deal with Iran, And in fact, that was the 196 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: first time I ever spoke to Donald Trump. He was 197 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: a new candidate, and he called me and I wanted 198 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: to express his thanks and admiration for the work I 199 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: was doing fighting against that deal and fighting against a 200 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: nuclear run. So with all these nominees, if they play 201 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: any role and trying to stop Iran from getting a 202 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: nuclear weapon, I and other Senators are going to want 203 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: to have questions and our meetings with them and our 204 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: hearings with them to ensure they're align with the President's priorities. 205 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: That's not kind of the ordinary, that's pretty customary. If 206 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: you look at the stuff that's gone on over the 207 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: last two or three weeks, guys, you can see, for instance, 208 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 4: that Bobby Kennedy, who had been pro choice his entire life, 209 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: when I met with him, and then when you testify 210 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: that the committee said that he would support President Trump's 211 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: pro life policies, you have not to. 212 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: It's sorry, we're going to come in to break it. 213 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: Sounds like you have questions for Bridge. I mean, I 214 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: know he's very aligned I think with you on on China, 215 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: for example, which is what the book is about. I 216 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: think you could say he's a China Hawk for sure. 217 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: But on the Iranian issue, you have questions. But if 218 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: the if the answers to those questions are satisfactory in 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: line with President Trump and with with his agenda for 220 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: national security in the Middle East and beyond, you don't 221 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: have a problem with the credentials or the background or 222 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: anything like that. 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: I look forward to speaking to him about you know, 224 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: what he's written about Iran in the past where he 225 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: thinks now how he sees that fitting in with President 226 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: Trump's declared priority of stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons again. 227 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: It's a common part of the process that we did 228 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: with Bobby Kennedy. 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: How do you how do you? How do you? 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: I mean you served by the way, how do you 231 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: think Secretary of Headsets? Just real quick, I wanted to 232 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: know what do you think about Secretary Hegsets? So far, 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: Clay and I have been having fun talking about just 234 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: some of the visuals. 235 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a refreshing change 236 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: to have a secretary who's a little bit close to 237 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: our age and therefore closer to the soldier's age, who 238 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: was himself a veteran. We've had very fine secretaries of 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: Defense who are in their sixties or seventies. But it 240 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: obviously offers a different perspective. And I think he's already 241 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 4: taken some steps to change some policies that were implemented 242 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: in the Biden era that were foolish, that diminished readiness, 243 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: that focused our troops on trivialities or distractions as opposed 244 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: to being ready to fight and win our nation's wars, 245 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: and therefore preventing them from happening in the first place. 246 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: Now he's got longer term challenges that are going to 247 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: take years for all of us to tackle, like rebuilding 248 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: our industrial capacity, making sure that we have the kind 249 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: of next generation fighters that can counteract China, that our 250 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: shipbuildings in a place where we encounter at China as well. 251 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: But on the things that he can do on the 252 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 4: first days and the job, I think he's off to 253 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: a good start, for instance, getting the Army and the 254 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 4: Marine Corps and the Air Force and the Navy focused 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: back on fighting our nation's wars, not so engineering or 256 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: not making sure they're using the right pronouns or using 257 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: addressing climate change in the way they train and so forth. 258 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: We're trying, as you know, to get a cease fire 259 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: and a resolution in Ukraine with Russia, and we just 260 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: had Marco Rubio talking with the Russians face to face 261 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: for the first time in years in Saudi Arabia. I'm 262 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: curious what you think about those conversations, And in particular, 263 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: there has been a discussion that one of the demands 264 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: might be an election in Ukraine, which Zelenski has not 265 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: allowed since the invasion happened. 266 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: Should there be. 267 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: A Ukrainian election, should it be connected to the idea 268 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: of a ceasefire in peace? 269 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: How would you assess where we are right now? 270 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, guys, I think Joe Biden left us 271 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: all amiss. That's the bottom line. Joe Biden's weakness tempted 272 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: Putin to invade in the first place. Biden pussy footed 273 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: around for three years, and I think in retrospect it's 274 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: clear that his plan was to lose just wait till 275 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: after the election. And that's what the President and all 276 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: of us have to deal with right now. And I 277 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: think what he wants to what the President's trying to 278 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: achieve is what Jade Vance said in Europe last week, 279 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: Ukraine's sovereign independence and preventing a third invasion of Ukraine 280 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: in the future. So to do that, we need to 281 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: have a lasting truce that will allow Ukraine to get 282 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: back on its feet, as you say, to have elections again, 283 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: to have long term prosperity. I think that's an important 284 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: point as well. You know, Lindsay Graham has floated the 285 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: idea of having a long term minerals deal with Ukraine 286 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: that would give them, you know, one pillar of long 287 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: term economic growth, also giving us what we need, which 288 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: is more independence from China to acquire the kind of 289 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: rare earth minerals that are necessary in a modern electronic economy. Now, 290 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: is this going to be something that everyone is satisfied with? 291 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: Is this what one might have hoped for, you know, 292 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: a year or two, three years ago. Probably not, But 293 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: it's what Joe Biden has left us with, and we've 294 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: got to do the very best we can to try 295 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: to get that durable truth that protects Ukraine's sovereign independence 296 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: and doesn't lead to a third invasion of Ukraine as 297 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: we've had the first and second invasion under the last 298 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: two Democratic presidents. 299 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: The book is Seven Things You Can't Say About China. 300 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Go check it out. Senator Tom Cotton. We appreciate the time. 301 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to you again sometime soon. 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This just happened up in It was 360 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 3: a a delta flight from Minneapolis to Toronto and on 361 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: landing in uh in Toronto, it looked, it looked really bad. 362 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: Everyone walked away. 363 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: Nobody uh, nobody was was killed in this flight. In 364 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: this crash landing, there's there's multiple angles of video of it. 365 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: You see it looks like a very hard landing. And 366 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: then the plane there's there's kind of a flame, which 367 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: is very scary, right because that's you know, that could 368 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: be game over for everybody on that plane. And then 369 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: the wings snap off and it goes into a role, 370 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: like the fuselage goes into a role. There's video of 371 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: people strapped into their seats. You've seen all this, right, Clay, 372 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: It's oh yeah, video people strapped into their seats upside down, 373 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: and then the airline attendants kind of waving them through 374 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: the you know, the emergency exit like they actually used it, 375 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: and people have video that they're taking as they're exiting 376 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: this plane and they're completely obviously in shock and just 377 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: can't believe what has happened to them. Is very It 378 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: seemed like a very standard flight. I don't think there 379 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: was was there trying to see what the details are. 380 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: There was anything strong winds, drifting snow, but yeah, they 381 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: should be able. 382 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: To land in I mean, they're landing in Toronto in February. 383 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: I think there was drifting snow and winds. That's probably 384 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: not a unique atmospheric or weather related condition, but. 385 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: This is you know, you had seventy six people on board. 386 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: It seems very It seems like this very easily could 387 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: have been a horrific craw You could have had a 388 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: mass fatality incident, again after we just had recently that 389 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: crash at at Reagan, which was of course the Blackhawk 390 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: helicopter colliding with a passenger jet and killing everybody involved. 391 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: One thing I thought was interesting, claud I was I 392 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: was reading the UH and I'm still trying to get 393 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: more details on this, Like the BBC, I'll just cite 394 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: them reported experts saying that the wings are meant to 395 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: in a crash situation like this, they're meant to like 396 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 3: detach basically, I. 397 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: Had to read that many times. I don't know. 398 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: This is where I'm curious if anyone can shed some 399 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: light on this. You know here, this is this was 400 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: I was. I was reading the updates on this this morning. 401 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: The sheer survivability of this is really amazing, some expert 402 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: tells the BBC, pointing out the airplane's fuselage body, he 403 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: had stayed intact. Okay, yeah, you want the fuselage and 404 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: those seats to be just you know, you want that 405 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: to be like the you know, the lifeboat for the Titanic, 406 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: Like you want those things to be survivable under any circumstance. 407 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: He highlighted the importance of the plane's high impact seats, 408 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: designed to absorb a great deal of punishment. 409 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: Here you go. 410 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: Commentators have also held the craft safety features. Former FAA 411 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: inspector David Seussi said the plane had broken apart as 412 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: meant to, with the detachment of the wings stopping. 413 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: The fuselage from ripping apart. 414 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: So this is a former FAA inspector, I had no 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: did you know, I had no idea that in a 416 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: crash situation. I guess it makes sense, right, because in 417 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: a weird way, if the plane like tilts over and 418 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: it starts to roll and it maybe rolls on, the 419 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: wings are also where all the fuel is. So yeah, 420 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: there's that. 421 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I watched this and I know that in the wake 422 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: of the crash at National Airport, people are more apprehensive 423 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: because we had gone like fifteen years without a major 424 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: commercial jet airliner crash. But it is amazing we got 425 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: a couple of clips here. How immediately this plane landed 426 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: in Toronto took off in Minneapolis, they immediately said this. 427 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: Is Trump's fault. 428 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it is kind of extraordinary that a plane 429 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: would flip over in Canada and the first thing many 430 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: people in the media would think is this is Trump's fault. 431 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: This was actually cut seventeen NBC. I think I just 432 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: sent in a CNN cut, but cut seventeen from NBC. 433 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: This is guy named. 434 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Tom Costello, I believe, says Trump, Elon Musk and Doge 435 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: are to blame for why this airplane flipped. 436 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 5: Listen, this is gonna yet again raised a concern about 437 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: air traffic controls. Now, this is a Canadian air traffic 438 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: control tower and this is under Canadian authority. 439 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: Once across the border. 440 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 5: And yet, as you know, there has been this talk 441 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: about maybe staff cuts at the FAA as a part 442 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 5: of President Trump's effort to trim down the federal workforce. 443 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: And yet, as you also know, the FAA has been 444 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: complaining for years that they are understaffed and critical job positions, 445 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 5: especially air traffic control. I was having a conversation with 446 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 5: somebody today about whether air traffic control in America is 447 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 5: being affected by the staff cuts so far, not to 448 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 5: their knowledge, and yet other positions related to maintaining critical 449 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: equipment appear to have been cut. 450 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: Okay, buck, So we have an analyst who comes on 451 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: and says that there is no actual evidence of American 452 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: involvement in this crash at all, but yet it raises 453 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: questions about Trump and his decisions that he has made. 454 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: Airplane flight. 455 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another way of saying, there's no evidence 456 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: to support blaming Trump, but I'm going to try to 457 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: blame Trump anyway. Everybody, right, That's what this is. There's 458 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: no actual logical straight line here of it's Trump's fault, 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: but the audience has been so deeply trained to look for, Oh, Trump. 460 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: Is actually doing a bad job. 461 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: Trump is a bad man that people I think in 462 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: the media just reflexively now try to you know, try 463 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: to find some way this is. They do this also 464 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: with yeah, gun control stuff. 465 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: And they used to always blame the NRA. 466 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Yes, the ny N rays had a lot of problems recently, 467 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: you don't even hear about the NRA anymore, like financial issues. 468 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Uh so it's just a yes. 469 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say the landing also, 470 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: it seems to me it would be almost impossible. I 471 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: want to know what happened, because in a plane should 472 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: not end up on its you know, on its roof. 473 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: As it looks like they're just based on the commentary. 474 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: But if we have any pilots you know, who want 475 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: to weigh in on this, please call or or email 476 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: us and scifically if you are an FAA inspector or 477 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: aeronautical engineer. The wings snapping off, if the plane crashes 478 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: on its belly and starts to go side to side, 479 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: that is a fact I've never heard. 480 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm just amazed. 481 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: But if that's a real thing, it sounds like it 482 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: is the FAA guys telling the BBC that I just 483 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: want confirmation of that, that the fuselage is so survivable. 484 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it makes it seem like if the crash itself, 485 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: you know, if you're not killed on impact and you 486 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: don't die in a fireball the fuselage, you have a 487 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: pretty good shot of keeping people alive at least if 488 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: you can get like a you know, a hard hard 489 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: landing on the belly of the plane, that it'll all 490 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: stay intact. Was pretty amazing when you think about it. 491 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: So we definitely want to take some some calls and 492 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: and some some insight on that. 493 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: But Clay, the blame Trump thing, it's. 494 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: Crazy, Uh, But they all they also, I think, are 495 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: very desperate right now to find some way to slow 496 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: down the momentum that Trump has on these things. And 497 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I think that you're going to just see more and 498 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: more of this where they will lean into humiliation as 499 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: long as it means they get to pretend like Trump's 500 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: doing a bad job for a couple of hours or something. 501 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: That's where we are. 502 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: I do think there is a legitimate question to be had. 503 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: We had this conversation a couple of years ago, maybe 504 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: last year as well. It does seem like there are 505 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: more close calls than most of us are aware of 506 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to air safety, and so I do wonder, 507 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: in the conjunction of what happened in DC with this 508 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: jet now flipping over, is there something to be said 509 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: big picture about safety when it comes to airlines? In fact, 510 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: you asked for calls. I would be curious for pilots, 511 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: for people who have been flying airplanes for decades. Do 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: you see and you don't have to tell us which 513 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: air line you're with or anything else, do you see 514 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: safety protocols that make you more apprehensive today than you 515 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: maybe were a decade ago or twenty years ago. Or 516 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: could this be like the drones in New Jersey, Buck, 517 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: where people just everybody starts looking and then you're not 518 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: necessarily showing something representative, but you're just looking for it 519 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: more closely. 520 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: And more people with drones started putting them in the 521 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: air because they don't have her on with the fact 522 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: that there's this whole drone thing going on, which made 523 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: sense to me in the beginning, the whole like Iranian offshore, 524 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: that was all that was clearly nonsense. I told you guys, 525 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: it's boring. Hey, whatever happened to those JFK files. Everybody, buck, 526 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be amazing, It's gonna blow your mind. No, 527 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: it's not I'm always right on this stuff. We'll see 528 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: when they actually come out. By the way, here's Dana 529 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: Bash before I forget here. She was on CNN, also 530 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: blaming Trump. I just sent this in again CNN, Dana Bash. Hey, 531 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: it's Trump's fault. The plane flipped over in Canada. 532 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 6: This is happening against the backdrop of massive cuts across 533 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 6: the federal govern including at the FAA. Hundreds of FAA 534 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: employees have been laid off as part of Elon Musk 535 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 6: going through all the federal agencies. I just want to 536 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 6: read what Chuck Schumer, the top Democrat in the Senate, said, 537 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 6: I'm thankful that everyone in the flight incident in Toronto 538 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 6: that took off from Minneapolis is safe, but we keep 539 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 6: seeing these incidents day after day. Meanwhile, Trump's doing massive 540 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: layoffs at the FAA, including safety specialists, and making our 541 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: skies less and less safe. 542 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: Again, plane flips in Canada, it's Trump's fault. So it's 543 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: just important to understand what they are saying. And again, 544 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I want to take your calls. Let's leave aside who 545 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: the president of the United States is, because I actually 546 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: think the president of the United States, particularly someone who's 547 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: been in office for one month doesn't have that much 548 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: to do with individual crashes of airplanes general proposition, But. 549 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 550 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say this, like with the eggs 551 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: thing Clay, where they're like, why hasn't you brought down 552 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: the price of vents? 553 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: Yes in one month for five days? Yeah, yeah, in 554 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: one month. 555 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: But I am curious for pilots out there, and this 556 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: is building on the call for calls that Buck made. 557 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that it is more dangerous right now 558 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: than it was ten years ago or twenty years ago, 559 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: or as a general rule, are you more optimistic about 560 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: aviation safety based on what you are seeing in your 561 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: own careers? I would be genuinely curious eight hundred and 562 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: two two two eight a two For those out there 563 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: that are pilots that have been flying for decades, how 564 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: you would analyze the safety of our air space and 565 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: our flights based on what you were seeing? 566 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: I would just be curious. Got our number? Light us up? 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That aircraft is the designed to 599 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: land or take off in like the crush zone on cars. 600 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: Wings and tails are designed to break away to keep 601 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: the fuselage intact. That is an email from Dan. Gary 602 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: is a retired airline Yeah. 603 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: Real quick, that's pretty cool. Is that's amazing that they 604 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: actually can do that? I learned something very new today. 605 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Sorry, Gary is a retired airline captain. What 606 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: do you see based on what happened with the landing 607 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: in Canada? Gary, Gary, retired captain. We've lost We've lost 608 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: radio contact with Gary. See over the Bermuda Triangle. 609 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: What happened? We're to Gary? 610 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: Gary has Gary has vanished? We have comms connected with Gary. 611 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: We do have, by the way, lots of pilots weighing in. 612 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: We will take some of your calls in the third hour. 613 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Can I just of of the I don't even know 614 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: what you call these. They're not conspiracy theories, but they're 615 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: you know. 616 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: Like abominable Snowman, Bermuda Triangle, lockness monster. What do we 617 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: call these things? Which one do you find the least implausible? 618 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: The most plausible would be another way of saying thank you, Yes, 619 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: the most plausible, that's a better way to say. 620 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: I guess I think probable. Well, first of all, I 621 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: think the Bermuda. 622 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Triangle is just awful weather, and it makes sense to 623 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: me that in awful weather there would be a predominance 624 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: of ships getting lost. So I think from you to 625 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: triangle doesn't feel that crazy to me. Like, I don't 626 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: think there's some you know, other dimension that the ships 627 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: are sailing into. Of the animals that are out there. 628 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Do I believe that there is a large mammal that 629 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: we have not yet found on the planet Earth. 630 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: No, But if I were. 631 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: Going to believe in one, it would be the I 632 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: think it would be like the the the. 633 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: The bigfoot Yetti. 634 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: Also known as Abominable Snowman. Right, it's all the same 635 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 3: as snowman. Is that that's like, yeah, that's in the like. Also, 636 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to throw off your yetti research here. 637 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: But oh, I used to watch the show Finding Bigfoot. 638 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: I would I would watch that show. I loved it, 639 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: even though I knew that if they actually found Bigfoot, 640 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I probably wasn't going to find out on A and E, 641 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, on a reality television show. 642 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: Well that was also I feel like if the reveal 643 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: was ever going to be that they had found Bigfoot, 644 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: I doubt they'd be able to keep that under wraps, 645 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think they'd 646 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: be able to keep you through the commercial break and 647 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: be like, hey, guess what, We've actually found Bigfoot. I'm 648 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: in South Florida, so I feel like more regionally, el 649 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: Choopacabra is something you got to keep in mind here, 650 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: do you know? Do you know I thought you were 651 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: going to give me the Megalodon, which is the massive 652 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: the massive shark that they made movies about the meg 653 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: My boys were obsessed with the Megalodon, which was like 654 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: a prehistoric shark. 655 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: What say you bought it really existed? Yeah? 656 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: No, The chuop Ofcabra is like a little I don't 657 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: know how you'd even It's like a little lizard like 658 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: monster that sucks the blood out of chickens. I don't know, 659 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: it's just fun to say though. Elchoopacabra. 660 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: By the way, Gary is back. We're going to take 661 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: some pilot calls. When we let's take some pilot calls. 662 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: I like them, and and we will dive into what 663 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: pilots think about the crash up there. 664 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: Where are you on the theory of Atlanti's clay? This 665 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: is what all these podcasters are doing now. They're talking 666 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 3: nonsense about you know able them, all of those. 667 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: So here's my thing that I'm going to blow people's 668 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: minds with. I think that there is some advanced civilization 669 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: that was involved in the construction of the Pyramids. I 670 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: don't buy that the Egyptians completely came up with building 671 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: the pyramids all by themselves. I think there is something 672 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: that is otherworldly or of a different than expected historical 673 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: record when it comes to the Pyramids. 674 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: That's my conspiracy there. Maybe locking us monster next we'll 675 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: get there.