1 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast. 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris. Find me on Twitter at 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Dan Harris. Eighty Week two is here. It is time 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: to talk about our best bets for the week. And 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: here with me to do that is my good friend 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Rich Ryan, co host of The grid Iron Gamble podcast. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter at rich t Ryan. Rich It's 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: been a while since we've talked. How are you. 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm great. I'm in the throes of new fatherhood. I 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: have a ten week old. As we discussed pre record, 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: That's why I've got the hat on. During quarantine, it 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: was acceptable to walk around with insanely long hair, but 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: now quote unquote post pandemic, it's not so hiding the hair. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: But happy to be here. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I think you look great, and obviously I'm a big 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: fan of the Mets. Unfortunately we are both Jets fans. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: It is a terrible plight that we have to bear. 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: And yet that was the one bet that I nailed 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: last week, was the Jets plus five point five against 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the Panthers. There it is all that along. Okay, So 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: you guys know how this works. We each are going 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: to give our three best bets they could be totals, 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: they could be spreads. Whatever you want to do. Then 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: we will quickly run through all the rest of just 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: the spreads just to talk about whether we have a 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: lean or not. But before we do it, let's get 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: to some housekeeping items, including a new offer from our sponsor, 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: bet MGM. This is a good one, guys. For new customers, 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: bet five dollars on any NFL game anything you want, 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: win one hundred dollars in free bets. 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Again, if you are a subscriber to that, 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: it counts as three additional entries, And again we do 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: a Sunday Morning Lives stream over there eleven to twelve. 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: We give out some props, we give out some of 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: our best bets at well on Sunday. All right, how 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: do you feel rich? Are you confident in your picks? Today? 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: Kind of week? Just tough. We've got a lot of 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: really good teams on the road as short favorites. We've 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: got some elite teams at home as massive favorites. But 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: I think I've done a decent job of minings from 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: some overreactions in week one and hopefully out some winners. 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: I think that's always a big one, right, is the 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: week one overreaction, avoid the part in week two. That's 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: generally my philosophy, which we'll get to in one second. 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: We'll start with Rich, we should recap last week, though 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't a great week. Although our favorite bet with 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Sean Greenho was our guest favorite bet was the Seahawks 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: laying two and a half to the Colts. That was 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Sean's official play. I allowed him to take it because 67 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: he wanted it. That was us. He missed on his 68 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: other one, the Titans minus three, which narrowly missed by 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen points, and the Pats minus three 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: also missed. There. My official bets after Shawn took Seattle 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: was the Deets getting five and a half. You needed 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: that half a point and again when it closed, I 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: think it was four and a half, but at five 74 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: and a half. It did hit the Titans Cardinals over 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: fifty two and a half, which still hurts my soul 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: because they were basically midway through the third quarter they 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: were at fifty one. I kind of counted that prematurely 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: in the win column. And then the Eagles Falcons over 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: forty and a half, which just missed on. So there 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: you go. Gotta do better this week, Rich, you get 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: to start us off. Give it to me your top 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: bet of the week. 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: So let's go back to the Queen City of Carolina 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: where you faded the Carolina Panther. There's last week. Good 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: job getting the best of the number there because, like 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: you said, you covered by the skin of your teeth. 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: But a win is a win is a win is 88 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: a win. And talking about overreactions, the best team last 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: week in a national spotlight where the New Orleans Saints 90 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: they come out and they absolutely mollywop the Green Bay Packers. 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: It's a Sean Payton masterclass. He is a tremendous coach. 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: You know, I myself coming to the season, I was 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: very much questioning New Orleans. I think the remnants of 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Hurricane and Ida kind of pushed me over the edge, 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: the fact that they were going to be displaced for 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: the first quarter of the season. But maybe I just 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: failed to recognize just how much of a tremendous coach 98 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: Sean Payton was putting together such a good team these 99 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: last couple of years with very much a maybe net 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: negative at quarterback and Drew Brees, somebody who couldn't push 101 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: the ball downfield. And the first time he gets an 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: opportunity to get Jameis Winston under center, I mean he 103 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: lets loose. He sinks you in with play action, gets 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: the run game going and then takes deep shots and 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: Jamis did that quite well. But I think this line 106 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: is just a little bit too rich for a Saints 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: team that let's face it, they do want to play 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more conservative, both on offense and I 109 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: mean being a good defense. I think they're going to 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: be in some more rock fights than people anticipate. And 111 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: the Panthers looked fine last week. Most importantly, they looked 112 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: really good on defense. And I know what you're saying, 113 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: pump the brakes. It's the New York Jets. It's a 114 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: dilapidated offensive line, it's a rookie quarterback. But when you 115 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: can pressure with guys like Brian Burns and you can 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: cover in the back, you can have some success in 117 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: this league. On top of that, we're seeing a lot 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: of injuries right now for the Saints. Kwan, Alexander, Marcus Davenport, 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore all DNPS on Wednesday. Marshaon Latimore carries a 120 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: doubtful status and we know that about single digit percentage 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: players that carry that status end up making it to Sunday. 122 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: On top of that, their IR situation is pretty bad. 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: Ken Crawley on the iar is one of the reasons 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: why they traded for Bradley Roby last week. No tray 125 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: Quan Smith, of course, no Michael Thomas. So very limited 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: on offense, banged up on defense. So I think this 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: is gonna be quite a low scoring game. And I 128 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: think the Saints can the Panthers can keep it competitive 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: with their receiver corps. I mean, Bradley Roby and Paulson 130 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: Adivo are gonna be in tough situations against three really 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: good receivers in Dj Moore, Robbie Anderson and Terrace Marshall. 132 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: So and Donald, you know, I'm still a Truther eight yards? 133 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? Are you like? Are you high 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: on him? Long term? 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: I think Donald is at minimum a league average quarterback 136 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: and he needs to be rained in. He needed to 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: escape Adam Gase. 138 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: And I think the Panthers will be just fine. I 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: think this is gonna be a close contested game. I 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: could see the Panthers winning outright. I don't think that 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: would be too insane. So yeah, give me the Panthers 143 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: plus three and a half. 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: If only there were any history of a quarterback looking 145 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: like probably not even fit for the NFL under Adam 146 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Gase and then escaping and then becoming one of the 147 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks. We may talk about that. QUI back a 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: little bit later. I'm not ready to declare Sam Donald 149 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: below average or above average or average. I don't know 150 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: what Sam Darnold is yet, because again I agree with you, 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: I think it's completely unfair to judge him based on 152 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: what happened in New York. I will say to add 153 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: to your point in this game, and I'll get to 154 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: my thoughts very quickly. Is the Saints are also dealing 155 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: with COVID among their coaches, like right, like a lot 156 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: of their coach not Peyton obviously, but a lot of 157 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: their coaching staff is kind of just working on their 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: couches right now, doing from home, don't you know, discount 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: that impact as well as you get ready for the 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: game plan. So there are a lot of signs here. 161 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: And again you know, it's not the quintessential by Loo 162 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: because the Panthers one against the Jets, you know, so 163 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: it's not like your people are down on them or 164 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: anything like that. But you are selling high on the Saints, 165 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: which is what you do in week two when people overreact, 166 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: and for me, Saints played great, but you're absolutely right. 167 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: The number of injuries on defense is really remarkable, and 168 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the one thing the Panthers can do. They have a 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: good offensive system, of course, and they have the three 170 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers who you mentioned again. They have DJ Moore, 171 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: they have Robbie Anderson. I liked what I saw of 172 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Terrest Marshall, and of course they have Christian McCaffrey, probably 173 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the best, you know, just non quarterback offense player in 174 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: the game right now. So I don't hate it. I 175 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: probably won't bet it just because it scares me, but 176 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: I do think that last week was also sort of 177 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: a weird combination of factors where I think, you know, 178 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: it was very, very hot, and I think the Packers 179 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: probably weren't necessarily prepared for it. They just looked gas 180 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: and out of sort. So I think it was as 181 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: much against the Packers as it was the Saints. So 182 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. If I had to take a side, 183 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: I would take the Panthers. But I am a little scared. 184 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: And that's funny considering what my number one best bet 185 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: in which is something that you I think we should 186 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: be honest before I told everybody last week Sean and 187 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I did not exchange picks before. And he came out 188 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: of the gate with seattles or whatever and you and 189 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I said, you want to exchange picks? And I said, sure, whatever, 190 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: send him over and you hadn't yet this morning, and 191 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I said, all right, well, these are my three picks. 192 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I'll get off one if you want. And my first 193 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: pick was the Vikings getting three and a half from 194 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. And do you remember what you wrote back 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: to me after I sent. 196 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: You that, Thank the heavens, Thank the heavens that I 197 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: don't have to tout this game and somebody else has 198 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: to because I wanted to trust me. But I will 199 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: run tail between my legs and I will give the 200 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: floor to you. Mister Ayres. 201 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: This is the quintessential game that you look at and 202 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you say, I have to take this game. But I 203 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: have no interest in taking this game. Like that is 204 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: what this is like. It feels grotesque to even do it. 205 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: But when I was looking at it, I was like, 206 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna give me more than a hook. I'm going 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: to take it right now. And again, this is a theme, 208 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: and it looks like you're on the same theme. And 209 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I think if you look historically it bears out, you know, 210 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: it's fruitful that when you fade, generally a lot of 211 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: the big things that you saw. And the Jaguars beat 212 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the Colts last year in Week. 213 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: One, right never they ever ever won a game ever again. 214 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: And may never again as well. But yeah, that although 215 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: maybe we don't know this week, but regardless, bottom line 216 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: is this, Like the Viking did look bad in this 217 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: game against the Bengals, they still could have won. Obviously. 218 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: The Cardinals looked like absolute world beaters in this game. 219 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: But again, I think it's a little bit of an 220 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: overreaction and spoiler. Like we'll talk about the Titans in 221 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: a little bit because that's another one of my picks. 222 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of what we saw with 223 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: that Cardinals Titans game is on the Titans, not the Cardinals. 224 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Cardinals are a very good offensive system. 225 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: Deonder Hopkins is amazing, Climber is incredible, I like Rondell 226 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: Moore what We're going to see a ton of good 227 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: things from them. But I don't think that defense is 228 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: anything close to what it showed. I think that the 229 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Titans really and I mentioned this before earlier this week, 230 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: actually is that I think that really the Titans, whether 231 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: it was the COVID situation that prevented them from practicing 232 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot, or whether it was just the general injury concerns, 233 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: they just weren't ready for that game and they didn't 234 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: play well, and I expect them to correct it right now. 235 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to see as good 236 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: as Chandler Jones is. I don't think you're going to 237 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: see the team have you know, six sacs or whatever 238 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: they had. Again, I think the defense is going to 239 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: allow points against the Vikings team, by the way, who 240 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: offense can very easy put up points, whether it's through 241 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, whether it's through Adam Fieln, who looked like 242 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: he had sort of found the fountain of youth. And 243 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: that's not even talking about Justin Jefferson, pardon me. And 244 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: again kJ Osborne also sort of showed up suddenly. So 245 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be able to put up points. 246 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: If you look historically, it's how the Vikings sort of react. 247 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: They're usually played pretty well after a loss to under 248 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and really, you know, they had to lose 249 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot of new starters, you know, in their first game. 250 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that corrects itself immediately in the 251 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: second game, but they had a ton of penalties in 252 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: that game. I expect them to probably do better. And 253 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: again their defense. I like their secondar I mean, Patrick 254 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Peterson maybe a little intel on what they're going to 255 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: see here from Arizona. So this is just a game 256 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: man that this screams to me something of the public 257 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: is going to absolutely hit the Cardinals in this game. 258 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: They're going to love the Cardinals. They're going to fade 259 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the Vikings, and I just think that the Vikings are 260 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: pretty obviously like the right side to be on. It 261 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: just makes me want to bombit a little bit in 262 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: my mouth to have. 263 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: To make this pick. I mean, you can see it 264 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: on the betting Pro's matchup page. Right eighty three percent 265 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: of people are selecting. 266 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: You looking at the matchups page. That's my guy. 267 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: I know, I'm a chameleon. I know where I'm at. 268 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: We're looking at a two point look ahead that went 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: to and through the key number of three, so we're 270 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: getting value there. It opened at four and a half, 271 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: it's already come down, so that means influential money is 272 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: coming in on the Vikings. This is a classic overreaction spot. 273 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: As you noted, Mike Zimmer I think has the coaching advantage. 274 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins might be a better quarterback. I've never been 275 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: really a Kyler Murray guy. I think he has a 276 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: lot of limitations when it comes to decision making. He 277 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: threw a bone hited interception against Tennessee. I don't know 278 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: if that's going to correct itself, and against a Vikings 279 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: defense that tends to be very aggressive. Mike Zimmer is 280 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: very gap competent, meaning that he designs blitzes to take 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: away all to attack all of your weaknesses. And if 282 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: Kyler is pressure in his face, I don't know if 283 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: he's always going to make the best decision given what's 284 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: in front of him. So the thing that does put 285 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: the fear of God to me is the reports that 286 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: Kyler was injured towards the end of last year. So 287 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: maybe some of my negative outlook on the kid is 288 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: the fact that he was actually being a tough SOB 289 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: and playing through a shoulder injury. On top of that, 290 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: speaking of COVID, there's just a dark cloud over Minnesota 291 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: and the kind of tug of war that they're dealing 292 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: with in their locker room and the division that comes 293 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: through COVID when their leader won't get vaccinated, and it's 294 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: putting it's putting a lot of pressure on the organization. 295 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: When the coach wants people to get vaccinated, he's threatening 296 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: the fire coaches that won't get vaccinated and the leader 297 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: of the team, the quarterback, won't take the vack. So 298 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: there's just this cloud that's hanging over Minnesota that has 299 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: me a little bit worried. But you're right, this is 300 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: a classic a one week one overreaction line. Moved an 301 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: insane amount from the look Ahead, and I think you 302 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: just have to blindly click the dog. 303 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: In this spot. It's good. It's a good point on 304 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: the look at You're right, that was it's a big 305 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: move here. And again everybody's still going to be on 306 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals in my guards. Yeah, the books are going 307 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: to be completely happy about that, and you know that 308 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: that's what they want with the way they see it, 309 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: with your point re cousins and and the vaccine. I 310 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: really do think that that is a reason to fade 311 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: them long term on the season. I really do think, 312 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: because I think just given the protocols, forget about anything else. 313 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: The protocols that the NFL has put in means that 314 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: I think it's highly likely that Cousins is gonna miss 315 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: at least a game this season just because he'll be 316 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: a close contact or something and there'll be something that 317 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: he won't be able to get out of. So I 318 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: think long term, I am worried about the vikings for 319 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: one game. In the bounce back spot, I'm holding my nose. 320 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to do it. Let's go to pick number two. 321 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: What do you got? 322 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, let's keep holding our nose though, 323 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more, All right, let's go. We are selecting 324 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars plus six at home against the Denver Broncos. 325 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: I'm not that much of a coward. I said it 326 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: was a coward for not clicking the vikings, But this 327 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: is me grabbing my shield and being a hero. Thirty 328 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: percent of folks on betting pros are selecting this team. 329 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: Let's just use some math. Real quick. Homefield advantage is 330 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: about one point nine right now, that's what we're working with. 331 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: So if this game was in Denver, the Broncos would 332 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: be minus ten. So what this is saying is that 333 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: the gap between the Broncos and the Jaguars is only 334 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: one point fewer than the gap between the Packers and 335 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: the Lions, Packers sitting at minus eleven. That doesn't really 336 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: work for me. The Packers are a team with Super 337 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Bowl aspirations, one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, 338 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: coming home after a loss playing against the Lions team 339 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: that I know they backdoored if you got the number late, 340 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: but they were absolutely destroyed by the San Francisco forty 341 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: nine ers. Back to back East Coast trips for Denver 342 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: eighty six degrees and rainy is projecting to be fifty 343 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: six percent chance of precipitation. So we're talking about an 344 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: ugly game. And just like the team that I just mentioned, 345 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: the Saints with injuries, the Broncos placed run Darby on IR, 346 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: a big free agent signing for them. Jerry Judy's on 347 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: IR guard Graham Glasgow, experienced heart palpitations during the game, 348 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: went to the hospital after the Giants game didn't travel back. 349 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: With Denver covering six on the road in pro football 350 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: means you're going to go out, get a lead and 351 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: extend the lead, and I just don't trust Teddy Bridgewater 352 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: to do that. I know it's the Jacksonville Jaguars. I 353 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: know this is something that people out there aren't going 354 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: to run to the window to bet. I know Vic 355 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: Fangio against a rookie quarterback is terrifying, but three point 356 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: look ahead blasts all the way to six. Just like 357 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: what you said about the Minnesota Vikings, I think you 358 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: just have to hold your nose, click the dog, and 359 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: just don't watch. When red zone shows this game, change 360 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: it to QVC or something. Just don't watch a single 361 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: snap in this game. 362 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, QVC, it's going to be better than watching this game, 363 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: is probably correct. Ah. So look, this sort of goes 364 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: to everything that we're saying. I think probably the Jaguars 365 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: strike me as the sharp side. I can't do it, though, 366 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: only because I can't. No, I can't. I mean you're 367 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: I think you're right, just because holy cow, man, like, 368 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: there are disasters in the NFL, and you and I, 369 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: obviously being fans of the Jets, are quite familiar with 370 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: how that works. But I don't know if I've ever 371 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: seen a coach like urban Meyer come in here and 372 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: screw everything up so quickly and just make things worse 373 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: every second of the day. This is bizarro world. I 374 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: think on paper, you're right, this spread is too much 375 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: and the sharp side is the Jaguars, but it really isn't. 376 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: And maybe that's narrative, like maybe that's not something that 377 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: we should consider as better, but it is something I 378 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: have to consider as better. And I don't even know 379 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: what he was doing that, Like, I don't know how 380 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: you come out and you say against the Texans, you go, 381 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let Trevor Lawrence throw all day right 382 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: from the start, and you're gonna say, I really want 383 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide to back more than jad Johnson. 384 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: No, James comes in. They have a free running back, right, 385 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: someone that they're not paying anything to. They use first 386 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: round draft equity on Travis Aten, so you feel like 387 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: they're forced into using James Robinson. Okay, they tried to 388 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: make mistake, the mistake was taken away from him, and 389 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: he just starts plunging with Carlos It's. 390 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: So nuts, it's nuts, And look, Carlos side's very capable backup. 391 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: James Robinson did nothing last year to suggest that without 392 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: ETN he needs to be benched or anything. Just maddening. Man. 393 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: So for me, it's just like I could see the 394 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: back door cover. I don't. I don't see a way 395 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are gonna win this game. They could, obviously, 396 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: you never know. It's we're avoiding overreactions. This is not 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: an O reaction against the Broncos, Like, I don't care 398 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: really what they did against the Giants. I thought they 399 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: looked fine, basically what I expected. But it's something where 400 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: I can't get mentally over the point of just being like, 401 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: I can't voluntarily put money down on the Jaguarts right now, 402 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: which is fair. A team that I can voluntarily put 403 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: money down on is the Titans. We're getting five and 404 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: a half from the Seahawks. They're in Seattle. That's never 405 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: good time. I'm just looking up exactly. So it's it's 406 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty right now. Fifty two percent of 407 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: our experts are taking the Seahawks, forty eight percent taking 408 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: the Titans. So let's continue our trend rich of making 409 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: plays that do not make us feel warm and fuzzy 410 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: in this one. We know Seattle's a very difficult place 411 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: to play, and they look great with their new offensive 412 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: scheme last week, and the Titans looked like the worst 413 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: you know team in football. But again this is me really? 414 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I am really, and maybe I'm overreacting in sort of 415 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: the positive way. I'm basically throwing out everything that we 416 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: saw from the Titans last week. I think it was 417 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: just a we have not practiced whatsoever. I mean, put 418 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: aside everything else. Tannel and Julio Jones literally never practiced, 419 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know how many practices I 420 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: actually had together, but the whole team just was not 421 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: ready to play, and that could linger, right. I mean, again, 422 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: you need to catch up. But I also have an 423 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: incredible amount of respect for Mike Rabel as a coach. 424 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the better coaches in the NFL. 425 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: I think he is going to get this team ready 426 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: to play. That you know, Taylor Lwan was obviously terrible. 427 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: I expect him to play better. I think the line 428 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: is going to play better. I think both receivers will 429 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: get more involved. I think you're going to see a 430 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: better game from Dereck Henry. And again, Seattle does not 431 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: have the pass rush, right, they don't have a Chandler 432 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: Jones on their team. Again, they're not going to basically 433 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: be harassing Ryan Tannell. So I think offensively, I think 434 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: the Titans are going to look much much better than 435 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: we saw last week. And again, Seattle was good last week. 436 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: They won that game handily. We figured that they would, 437 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: but that wasn't that far away from being like a 438 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: four point game, Like the Colts could have easily scored 439 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown gotten the two point conversion. It's a four 440 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: point win, I mean, even in a game that they 441 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: pretty much dominated. So it's something where I do I 442 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: expect the Seahawks to win. I do, but look, we 443 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: know how the Seahawks have historically played. I mean, look 444 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: at last year. 445 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: They were twelve never a normal game. 446 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: We know that there's every possibility that they will just 447 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: start running the ball. But that but let's say they 448 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: stick with Shane waldron'system. Four of their twelve wins last year, 449 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: only four were by more than one score. Like, if 450 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: you're going they like to play other games, that's just 451 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: what they do. And I think that this one's gonna 452 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: be a close game. Again, if I had to bet, 453 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: it'd be the Seahawks winning by a field goal in 454 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: this game. So I will take the five and a half. 455 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to lean with you. I'm a little 456 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: concerned with the Titans defense. But the point you bring 457 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: up last week is very indicative of the Seahawks. It 458 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: was very much a Shane Waldron first half and a 459 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll second half. Let's salt the lead away, let's 460 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: set the game away, hang on to a lead, get home, 461 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: get prepped for next week when a lot of other 462 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: teams in this league are extending leads and putting teams 463 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: away and again, to cover five, five and a half 464 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL, you need to be extending leads and 465 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: not holding on to the rock and salting games away. 466 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: So the biggest problem with the Seahawks last year was 467 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: the fact that when teams started showing them that too deep, 468 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: they had no idea what to do. And Shane Waldron 469 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: did a great job of attacking the Colts last week 470 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: with ebra Flus as a classic two deep team, and 471 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: they absolutely shredded them deep. Will that carry over into 472 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: next week? I think it's possible. I think that the 473 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: whole offseason the Hawks were a team that were getting 474 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: absolutely no love when all they do every single year 475 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: is go out and get double digit wins. Russell Wilson 476 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: is perennially a top five quarterback. Lockett and dk metcalf 477 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: are to one of the best receiver cors in the league. 478 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: And what Pete's done his whole tenure and in Seattle 479 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: is take mid round players with zero pedigree and put 480 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: together a pretty good defense. So I like the spot. 481 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: It worries me a little bit when I start digging 482 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: into the actual teams, because I'm a little bit down 483 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: on the Titans. But You're absolutely right. One of the 484 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: things you want to be doing in the NFL is 485 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: betting on the team that looked the worst last week, 486 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: and the Tennessee Titans were certainly one of those things. 487 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Just regrets to the mean, these teams are just too talented. 488 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, no, I was just wrapping up. 489 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and again, Seattle generally has looked, you know, 490 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: good early on here, and I get like last year 491 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: and I get like their offense looked really good. I 492 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: just this is a bounce back spot for the Titans. Man, Like, 493 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine that they come out as nearly as 494 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: flas they did. They were embarrassed by that game, like 495 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: for sure, like they need to come here and show something, 496 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: and I just I kind of trust that they will. 497 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is what it is. This is this 498 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: is a hold your nose week, man, like we're talking 499 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: about it. So do you have a hold your nose 500 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: third pick here for your third best bat? 501 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: Not really. I know a lot of people like to 502 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: bet the over in some of these games, and with 503 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: the record being broken last week with fourth down attempts, 504 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: maybe this season will be in overseason. But I'm circling 505 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: the under forty seven and a half in this Texans 506 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: Browns game on Sunday. It's one of those where if 507 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: you agree with me, you're gonna want to go out 508 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: there and get it now because forty seven is a 509 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: key number and the Cleveland Browns have a couple of 510 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: injuries that the Thursday practice report, which we haven't seen yet, 511 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: could dictate a line move in this spot. Three starting 512 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: offensive linemen on the Browns did not practice yesterday. Jedrick 513 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: Willis was carted off on Sunday against the Chiefs that 514 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: left tackle and his replacement in that game also got hurt. 515 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: So there's a chance that the JC Treader and Jack 516 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: Conklin dnps on Wednesday were just veterans rest Those things 517 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: tend to happen. But we'll get more information here on Thursday, 518 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: and if they are dnps on Thursday, I could certainly 519 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: see this line starting to come down, because in order 520 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: for the Browns to cover a number as big as this, 521 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: and in order for them to get to the over, 522 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: it's going to be the Browns that are scoring in 523 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: this game and putting points on the board. And with 524 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: a broken offensive line, a team that does want to 525 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: run the ball, that has invested as on at the 526 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: running back position is going to be a little bit 527 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: hamstrung to do so. But if you wait for the news, 528 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: then the line's going to start moving. So it's one 529 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: of those where you almost have to be a little 530 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: bit aggressive and get to it before the market starts changing. 531 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: The Texans last week, playing at at home against the Jaguars, 532 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: allowed the fifth highest pressure rate in the entire league. 533 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: The Jaguars do not have a stout defensive line what 534 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: and they didn't send a ton of pressure. I mean, 535 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: their blitz rate was thirty two point four, so top third, 536 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: but nothing like the you know, the fifty percent that 537 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: we saw from the Dolphins and fifty percent we traditionally 538 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: see from the Ravens that we saw a ton of 539 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: on Monday night against the Raiders there. Now they travel 540 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: on the road, they have to block Miles Garrett and 541 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: Jadeveon Clowney and tack McKinley and Malik Jackson. That's not 542 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna be an easy assignment. So I think the Texans 543 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 2: are going to strugle to score. And if the Browns 544 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: have these offensive line issues and can't get their offense 545 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: going as well, I think we'll see a little bit 546 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: of a controlled rock fight. I think the Browns will 547 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: be just fine, But I think that the under is 548 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: definitely in play, and if you're super brave, I think 549 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: taking the points with Houston might be in play as well. 550 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: This is interesting, Okay, So if that, what if the 551 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: practice reports are positive, I mean, Wills isn't gonna play. 552 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can assume that. But what 553 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: if the practice reports are positive on the offensive line? 554 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: And are you still good with it? I mean, I 555 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: assume in forty seven and a half, you just think 556 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that it might drop if it's bad, right, Yeah. 557 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: If it's bad. I think this line gets to the 558 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: key number and Nobe even gets a little bit down 559 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: from that, but I don't think it'll ever touch the 560 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: other key of forty four. I mean, that's a precipitous drop, right, 561 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: but I could certainly see it coming off this forty 562 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: seven and a half. I think I'm still comfortable with it. 563 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: It's I think it's fifty to fifty that Tretder and conkline. 564 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: We're just getting veterans rest. But the fact that the 565 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: Browns might be on their third string left tackle is 566 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: certainly not a good thing. 567 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: All right, I don't I don't have a good feel. 568 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what my we on Monday. We 569 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: do like an opening reactions line. You know what is 570 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: our opening reaction to the line? I don't remember what 571 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: my life I feel like. I like the over, but 572 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't really have a good feel for right now. 573 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, I can see I think the Browns are 574 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: gonna run all day long, which is obviously generally speaking 575 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: good for the under, but I don't have a good 576 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: sense of it. It's actually it's funny because it's it's 577 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of the people picking on Bettingbros. Dot 578 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: Com are on the over right now, so you're in 579 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: the minority here, which I know you're fine with, right. 580 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: I love being the one, all right, I'm going to go. 581 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to see whether or not I'm in the 582 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: minority or the majority on this one. And it's no 583 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: big I'm just gonna scroll and waste time. Okay, Yeah, 584 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm in the minority big time on this one. And 585 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: it is the Dolphins getting three and a half against 586 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: the Bills. Seventy nine percent of our experts here are 587 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: taking the Bills, only twenty one percent taking the Dolphins. 588 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: I am one of those twenty one percent. This is 589 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: not an overly analytical analysis for this one. And this 590 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: is not a you know, it's sort of the opposite, right, 591 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: like the Bill's lost and the Dolphins one, and so 592 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. But the bottom line is this. 593 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: It's a divisional matchup. It's between two really good teams. 594 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: And I think if you are giving over a field 595 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: goal in a game like this, I'm just gonna take 596 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: the hook. They're in Florida, right That is just very 597 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: especially right now in the summer, Like we know this, 598 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: We've seen it with Tom Brady or whatever. It's sort 599 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: of difficult for road teams to acclimate to that, especially 600 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: when it's really really hot. I think the Bills played 601 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: okay against the Steelers, Steelers have a great defense, but 602 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: I did think that they showed some cracks a little bit. 603 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, their offensive line wasn't really great. It wasn't 604 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: really that great, you know, necessarily last year and now 605 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: last week they met in this exact same spot in 606 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Miami in Week two it was thirty one twenty eight. 607 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: I can see sort of something. It's different obviously because 608 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Fitz was there. But I do think that this is 609 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: going to be a close game. I think the Dolphins 610 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: obviously have a very very solid and underrated defense. I 611 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: think zaviy I'm very excited to see Zavian Howard matchup 612 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: against Von Diggs, which I expect in this game, which 613 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: we saw at the end of last year. He did 614 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: a decent job of keeping him under control. But this 615 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: is something where I think it might take a little 616 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: while for the Bills kind of to round back into 617 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: form here. And I think the Dolphins, as much as 618 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: they didn't look explosive as much as we wanted to 619 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: to sort of all right, throw into coverage, like be 620 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: a more of a gun singer, and he wasn't, I 621 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: think they can survive like that. I think this game 622 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: might be a little lower scoring than people expect Will 623 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Fuller should be back, although I saw that he missed 624 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: practice today for an undisclosed reason. If he's out, that 625 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: might color the way I feel about it. But I 626 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: think that Fuller does add another dimension to this offense. 627 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker looked great last week as well. Miles Gaskin 628 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: is very solid. Jaalen Waddell had a very nice opening game. 629 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: To me, again, it's not overly analytical. It's just a 630 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: divisional matchup between two teams that are very solid and 631 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: know each other really well. It strikes me as much 632 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: more of a field goal, so I would take the 633 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: hook either way. But I'm wondering because are so many 634 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: people are on the Bills whether or not you feel 635 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: the same. 636 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: So if we look at home field advantage again being 637 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: one point nine, that says that the Bills would be 638 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: minus seven and a half in the spot against the 639 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: Dolphins a week after being minus six and a half 640 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: against the Steelers. So what the market is telling us 641 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: is that they believe in this spot that the gap 642 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: between the Bills and the Dolphins is one point higher 643 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: than the gap between the Bills and the Steelers. I 644 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: don't know if that's true. Last week. The Bill Steelers 645 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: game was absolutely fascinating because the Steelers blitzed on one play, 646 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: I know, one play. That being said, not every team 647 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: has a TJ. Watt and the Melvin Ingram and the 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: horses up front to just send four and be comfortable 649 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: dropping seven back in coverage, which was a headache for 650 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Josh Allen eats against blitzes, he eats against 651 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: man coverage. The Dolphins blitz at a fifty percent rate 652 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: last week against the Patriots. Are they going to do 653 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: the same this week? Is Brian Flores going to try 654 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: to send pressure? If he does, I think the Bills 655 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: are certainly going to look more like the twenty twenty 656 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: Bills than they did in Week one. But this is 657 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this line to me is just razor sharp. 658 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: I could see the Bills getting back to their old ways, scoring, 659 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: pushing edges, getting the ball downfield, and then what does 660 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: two A do in negative script? That's the biggest issue 661 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: for the Dolphins this season. They have very defined RPO 662 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: style offense. Easy throws, easy decisions for Tua. What happens 663 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: when he's down you know a touchdown plus and he's 664 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: throwing you know four verts and making decisions that last 665 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: year he was very conservative in doing so. So I'm 666 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: going to be a bystander for this game. I think 667 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be a very fun game between two 668 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: good teams, and I'll let you be brave in the 669 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: spot and click the dog. 670 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be such an ugly week for us, my friend, 671 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: and not that we're gonna lose. I just mean we're 672 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna be rooting for such, you know, such terrible underdogs here. Okay, 673 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: so you are taking Let's just recap very quickly. At 674 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: the end, Panther is getting three and a half from 675 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Jaguars getting six from the Broncos, and 676 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: the Texans, and the Browns going under forty seven and 677 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: a half total points. I am taking the Vikings getting 678 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: three and a half from the Cardinals, the Titans getting 679 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: five and a half from the Seahawks, and the Dolphins 680 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: getting three and a half from Bill's Man. Somebody who's 681 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast for the first time, they're like, 682 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: these guys some intestinal fortitude. Okay, how about let's run 683 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: through very quickly the rest of the game. We talked 684 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: about the over runner. Obviously on the Browns and Texans. 685 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: But what do you think about the fact that the 686 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Browns are laying twelve and a half points here doesn't 687 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: matter with you what happens with the offensive lineman or what. 688 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think So what's interesting is the look ahead 689 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: was thirteen, So the Texans got some respect for the 690 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: fact that they went out and won the game out 691 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: right last week. Granted it's a half point of respect, 692 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: not towards or off of a key number. But if 693 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: those two players in Treder and Conklin are dnps today, yeah, 694 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm definitely leaning the points in the spot, thinking that 695 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: it's going to be a low scoring affair, that Tyrod Taylor, 696 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: the veteran that he is, can navigate the Texans to 697 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: a non blowout in Cleveland. 698 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm betting for It's pretty split. Fifty six percent 699 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: or taking the Browns, forty four percent are taking the Texans. 700 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I've made a pick yet on this game. 701 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I feel about it. If I do, 702 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, dabble, it'll probably be the last minute. But 703 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a great feel for it, so it's 704 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: a stay away from me. How about the Bears laying 705 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: two and a half at home against the Bengals, and 706 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: I think it was three when I looked at it 707 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, so it must have dropped half 708 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: a point. What do you think here about two and 709 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: a half? 710 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of shop money came in on the 711 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: Bengals earlier in the week. I've actually seen this as 712 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: low as one at some books. I think you have 713 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: to just take the Bears sub a field goal. Yeah, 714 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: I believe the look ahead in this spot was above 715 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: a field goal. If I'm not correct, let me just 716 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: pull it up here. Ye, look ahead was four and 717 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: a half. So that's a very large move too, and 718 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: through a key number. Again, it is influential money that's 719 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: making this move. But we're buying the Bengals off of 720 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: a massive underdog win, and we're selling the Bears against 721 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: losing against potentially the best team in the NFC. I'm 722 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: very bullish on the Los Angeles Rams. I think the 723 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: addition of Stafford is massive to McVeigh. More importantly, I 724 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: think what the Rams have done on defense the last 725 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: two years is something that is going to become more 726 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: prevalent and more understood. The athletic had a tremendous article 727 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: about Brandon Staley and what he's done with the two 728 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: deep defense and how he's adapted it to almost be 729 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: basically the how McVeigh uses eleven on offense. You show 730 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: one luck and you can do multiple things out of it. 731 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: The way that Brandon Staley is treating two deep coverage 732 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: on defense is something that I think is going to 733 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 2: take the league by storm. And I think the Rams 734 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: have a massive edge on defense, and the Chargers do 735 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: now as well with Stalely as head coach. So I'm 736 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: not going to fault the Bears for getting blasted out 737 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 2: of the water from a Rams team that was opening 738 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: up a brand new stadium in prime time. So yeah, 739 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: I just think short of a field goal, you have 740 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: to take the Bears. 741 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: In the spot. I agree with you. I agree with 742 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: you here. I mean, I really do think now that 743 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: it's dropped under a field goal, like the Bears at home, 744 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: their defense is still strong. I mean, and Galton didn't 745 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't push the ball down the field, 746 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: but didn't play that poorly against a very very tough defense. 747 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Dave Montgomery looked great. Yeah, and you know you got 748 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: the Bengals played well. I was impressed with Jamar Chase. 749 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: Certainly in the opening game, I was impressed with Burrow, 750 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: but even Burrow has been complaining a little bit about 751 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: how sore his knee is like after that, which is 752 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: just natural. I think I agree with you. Now that's 753 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: under a field goal, I would lean the Bears. How 754 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: about the Eagles, which were again earlier in the week 755 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: getting three and a half. They're now just getting three 756 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers in Philadelphia. 757 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: So one of my twenty twenty one goals is to 758 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: be a little less stubborn, at least try to be 759 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: a little less stubborn. And I came into the season 760 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: with very very negative connotations towards the Philadelphia Eagles. Maybe 761 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: the Nick Sirianni press conference colored my analysis a little 762 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: bit too much. Certainly Jalen Hurts' inability to play the 763 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: quarterback position last year colored my analysis. But I have 764 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: to give them so much credit for what they did 765 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 2: last week. They gave Jalen Hurts as many easy throws 766 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: as possible and a dodd of three point seven. Let's 767 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: not make him diagnose the field go through multiple reads. 768 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Let's get these very fast, skilled position players the ball 769 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: at the line skirmage and let Jalen Hurs play some 770 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: Reid option. They got Kenneth Gainwell involved early. You know, 771 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: a lot of teams would just trot Boston Scott out 772 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: the veteran, give him those passing down touches. They took 773 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: the kid and they said, you know what, we think 774 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: he's talented. We saw a lot of him in training camp. 775 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: He got thirty three percent of the snaps. So maybe 776 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: Sirianni's a little sharper than I gave him credit for. 777 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, with Philadelphia being so stout 778 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: on both offensive and defensive line and some of these 779 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: injuries for the Niners, Eric Armstead, Drake Greenlaw, Javon Kinlaw 780 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 2: all DNPS yesterday, this line might be a little bit 781 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: too rich. I'm very bullsh on the Niners. I think 782 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: the Niners are going to have a tremendous season. Yeah massive, 783 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, Stan, But you know, this might just be 784 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: a little bit too rich for a West Coast team. Travelings. 785 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: I liked it at three and a half. At three, 786 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm staying away. I look, I was somebody 787 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: who you know, you know I do fantasy, obviously, I 788 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: do fantasy projections as well. But I was big unhurt 789 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: this whole year, and I was sort of like, well, 790 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, it's going to be his legs and 791 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. But I was hoping that what we 792 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: would see is that you have an entire off season, 793 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, rumors be damned. You have an entire off 794 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: season to devote yourself to creating an offense that revolves 795 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: around Jalen Hurts. The skill set that is exactly what 796 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: they did. And their offensive line played really well. Their 797 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: defensive line as solid as we know. So I think 798 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles there's a lot of reason to be optimistic 799 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: with that said, I don't know yet. I need, you know, 800 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: beating up on an Atlanta team that just looked terrible. 801 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, I need to see it again here against 802 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, which is why I'm staying away. 803 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: But I would take it at three and a half. 804 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: You can find it out there. I know that it's 805 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: still lingering out there at some books. I would take 806 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: that at three. I think it's a stay away. But 807 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: I misspoke there. 808 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: Sorry. The Niners did of course, Shannon had did the 809 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: smart thing they see. They stayed East after the Detroit 810 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 2: game last week, so no long road trip. 811 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: It's still though, I mean, it still is, like I 812 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: know they do that living in It's still a big 813 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: deal if you stay out east like I realized, Like okay, good, 814 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: but really it's still a big, a big move. This 815 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: one's interesting. It's not surprising to me that the betting 816 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: experts have made the picks that way they have. The 817 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: Rams are visiting the Colts. The Rams are currently three 818 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. Ninety percent of the picks 819 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: coming in on the Rams. Are you with them as 820 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: a buyer of Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford? 821 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: Ah, this is tough, yep, could because a lot of 822 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: the stuff we just talked about was overreaction correct. How 823 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: do we take advantage of that in week two? And 824 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: naturally you would want to take the Colts and the 825 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: points in this spot, But I don't know if I 826 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: can do it. I think I just and that doesn't 827 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: mean I'm going to click the Rams in the spot. 828 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: It just thinks I'm going to stay on the sideline 829 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: for this game. But what this line is saying is 830 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: that the Rams are a point better than the Seahawks. 831 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: Which you know is probably right. So this is probably 832 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: a fair line. And yeah, I think I think if 833 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: you like the Colts, you're believing in Aberflus coming out 834 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: and playing great defense, right the Colts not. Their biggest 835 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: trend in the last couple of years was to play 836 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: a very strong, two deep defense, keep everything in front 837 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: of you. I'll never forget they went to Arrowhead two 838 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: years ago. They were ten point dogs. They went in 839 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 2: on a Sunday night, beat them out right because they 840 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 2: didn't give Tyreek or any of these chiefs weapons the 841 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: opportunity to get down the field, kept everything in front 842 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: of them and were able to win a little bit 843 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 2: of a rock fight. And that's the Colts calling card. 844 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: If they can do that. The Rams don't have a 845 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: great running game, they don't really have a great run 846 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: blocking offensive line. They can make this game a little ugly. 847 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: But you know, if the Rams can mimic what their 848 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: former coach did last week and attack these guys deep, 849 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: then they're gonna have some success. So I can see 850 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: a lot of outcomes here. I'm just gonna stay on 851 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: the sideline. 852 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: This is a git. We see so much the same way, 853 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: which is I think like realistically, you look at and 854 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: you're like, well, everything says you probably should take the 855 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: Colts in this game, just for the very reasons that 856 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: you and I have talked about nonstuff, and yet we 857 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: want to take the Rams because we both are buyers 858 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: on the Rams and things they looked incredible, and yet 859 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: neither one of us can really pull that trigger either way. 860 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: So I I'm going to stand inside. I wouldn't be 861 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: surprised to see the Rams win by a touchdown, but 862 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: it's something where I'm going to stay away from. How 863 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: about the Steelers at home Link six against the Raiders 864 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: on the short week. 865 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: TRYE traditionally a terrible stot spot for the Raiders short 866 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: week west to East. This Raiders offensive line is bad 867 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: and they still have Ritchie and Cognitio on the injury report. 868 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: Now they have to go block the Pittsburgh Steelers, who, 869 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: unlike the Ravens, don't have to send pressure because just 870 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: like they did against the Bills, they can generate a 871 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: pass rush with four Minka Fitzpatrick is one of the 872 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: few players in the league where you can put him 873 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: on Darren Waller, and I don't think anybody can stop 874 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: Darren Waller. Those crossers are absolutely lethal, probably unguardable. But 875 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: the job that Fitzpatrick did last week against Cole Beasley, 876 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: and you might scoff off, you know, Cole Beasley slock guy. 877 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: But Cole is very slippery in the slot and a 878 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: great route runner, and Fitzpatrick did a hell of a 879 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: job on him. So He's going to be able to 880 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: at least anoy Waller in this game and force car 881 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: and the Raiders offense to go elsewhere. Six is pretty rich, though, 882 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: five and a half now I'm seeing five in some spots. 883 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: So do we trust the Pittsburgh defense to keep this 884 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: super low? Yes? But do we trust Big Ben and 885 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: that arm and the prayers that he tends to throw 886 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: at Deantay Johnson and Chase Claypool to establish a lead 887 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 2: and extend the lead? I don't think so. So gun 888 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: to my head, I think I'm taking the points and 889 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: hoping that Derek Carr can can generate some offense against 890 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: this tremendous pass rush. 891 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is pretty split down the middle, fifty three 892 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: percent on the Raiders forty seven percent of the Steelers. 893 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: I am taking neither for sure. This is a classic 894 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: Tomlin like letdown spot. Like you got to be an underdog, 895 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: you gotta be on the road. Nobody believes that's for 896 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. When you're a favorite by nearly a touchdown 897 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: at home, with everything being like, ah, you should win 898 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: this man, you'll be all right, it's like, nah, run away. 899 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: So but I can bring myself to take the Raiders 900 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: here for the you mentioned, it's just very top on 901 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: this short week. It's not like a good match in 902 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: terms of the ability of the Steelers to get pressure 903 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: without bringing the blitz. So just to stay away from me. 904 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: But I guess gun to my head, like you said, 905 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: I would be on the Raiders. But thankfully there is 906 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: no gun to my head. So let's go onto the 907 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Patriots visiting our jets. The spread has climbed to six 908 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: Jets getting six eighty two percent of the people taking 909 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots, eighteen percent taking the Jets. 910 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: What do you think, Congratulations if you grab the Patriots 911 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: ticket Sunday night Monday morning, Very good job by you, 912 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 2: because yes, this has steamed in the direction of the Patriots. 913 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how high it has to get for 914 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: me to take the Jets. I don't think it's high enough. 915 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 2: But I don't think I'm taking Mac Jones on the 916 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: road at this number either. I did really like the 917 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 2: three and a half. I thought that was a pretty 918 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 2: good selection. The big issue is just this Jets offensive 919 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: line with becked and out. I mean, what is Matthew 920 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: Judon going to do to this offensive line? Zach Wilson 921 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 2: is gonna have pressure in his face the entire game. 922 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick feasts on rookie quarterbacks do so. I think 923 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: Sala will do a decent job against a rookie quarterback 924 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: in his own, but he just doesn't have the horses 925 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: that Belichick has. I mean, you go out and you 926 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: sign LaMarcus Joyner. He plays nine snaps. I mean Karl 927 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: Lawson plays zero snaps. And now you've just got Bryce 928 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 2: Hall and a cast of misfits back cornerback. So tough spot. 929 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's high enough to take the Jets. 930 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 2: So I guess I'm leaning Patriots. But yeah, this is 931 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: gonna be an ugly affair amount life. 932 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, staying away at six points too much like that. 933 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. Like the Patriots should win this game. 934 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: It should probably it should not be threatened, but six 935 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: points is too much for mac Jones on the rock 936 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: just interest is like, there's just no way, and you're right, 937 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: you got it early. That's great, but right now I 938 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: can't hopefully, you know, the floor designs something to get 939 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: around the fact that their offensive line is you and 940 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: me basically playing at this point, which is crazy with 941 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: how much they've invested into this offensive line. But it's 942 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: going to be bad. So but I'm saying away again 943 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: just because it can't go with mac Jones lay in six. 944 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: How about another big spread here, A couple of big 945 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: spreads this week. Bucks playing twelve and a half to 946 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: the Falcons at home. 947 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: Is Arthur Smith a fraud? 948 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we're not ready to call that after 949 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: a game. It didn't look good that first game, but you. 950 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: Know, they were so unprepared. They ran the ball so 951 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: frequently on first down despite having such little success up front, 952 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 2: getting pushed and trailing. That was puzzling. Everything that I 953 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: saw out of the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday was absolutely puzzling. 954 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan is not somebody who could get back there 955 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: and move around. There were assignments blown up front by 956 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: the offensive line. This is a terrifying spot for a 957 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: Bucks team. That has extra rest and the defensive strength 958 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: up front that we saw. You know, the Cowboys have 959 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 2: a really good defensive offensive line. For sure, they were 960 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: missing Zach Martine, but you know they're a solid outfit, 961 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: and the Bucks were still getting pressure in that spot. 962 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what's going to happen when 963 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: the Bucks defense starts eating against this Atlanta offensive line. 964 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: And what is this Atlanta defense going to do against 965 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 2: Tom Brady in this Bucks offense. So I think the 966 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 2: move look ahead with eight moves to twelve, I think 967 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 2: the move is justified. And I mean I could see 968 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: the Bucks winning this game by a very very healthy amount. 969 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm very concerned with Arthur Smith as the coach of 970 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: the Falcons. 971 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: Guns. In my head, it's the Bucks in this one. 972 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: But I also can't lay twelve and a half at 973 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: this point like I can't, because that to me strikes 974 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: me as a You look at the Falcons. The Falcons 975 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: looked like they were the worst team in the league 976 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: in that game. They looked terrible, they looked terribly coached, 977 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: they didn't have the personnel. I'm not ready to say 978 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're going to see. Your rest of season, 979 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: just for the same reason we're talking about everything. But 980 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: it looked horrific, and we do know that the Bucks 981 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: are going to put up a ton of points because 982 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: the Bucks had the exact same personnel that they had 983 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: last year. They did it against the Cowboys, So I 984 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: lean Bucks, But twelve and a half, I need to 985 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: see it again. If they look like that again the Falcons, 986 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm fully running hard away and just whatever look aheadline 987 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: I can get on against the Falcons I will take 988 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: now because it's just gonna climb. How about the Chargers, 989 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: which are now laying three and a half at home 990 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. This was three earlier in the week 991 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: when I. 992 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: Looked big injuries for the Cowboys are at least one big 993 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: injury with DeMarcus Lawrence and now this Lyle Collins suspension. 994 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 2: You get back Zach Martin, but you lose your left tackle. 995 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: That's never a good thing. I think people are going 996 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: to be enamored with the Cowboys and their offense and 997 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: the stories coming out that Dak was a great decision maker, 998 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 2: which he was on the Thursday opener audibling out of 999 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: I think more than half of the run calls that 1000 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 2: kellenm Moore put out there, put the Cowboys into good spots, 1001 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: was throwing the ball all over the field, did a 1002 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 2: great job. But I don't know in this spot. I'm 1003 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 2: again very bullish on the Chargers, and I was surprised 1004 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 2: last week so GridION Garible. We play in the Circus 1005 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: Sports million contests and the Washington football team was a 1006 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: top five popular pick last week, and that was puzzling 1007 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: to me. I just think the Chargers team is really good. 1008 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: Herbert is already I think a top ten quarterback. He 1009 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 2: just stands in there on those third downs, makes really 1010 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: tough throws, throws outside the number he can make, and 1011 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: Lombardy is going to be able to put him in 1012 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: positions that Anthony Lynn didn't last year in scheming up 1013 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: a better offensive plan than with the former charge head 1014 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 2: coach was able to do. I don't love the line 1015 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: move again. This is another one where hey, if you 1016 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 2: got out Sunday night Monday morning, you grab the two, 1017 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 2: you grab the two before this got two and above three. Congratulations. 1018 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: But I still think that if you were to make 1019 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: me select the side here, it would be the Chargers. Yeah, 1020 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: I think that. Yeah, I think the Dallas defense is 1021 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 2: that bad and that Brandon Staley will just be able 1022 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: to do enough to limit this awesome Cowboys offense. 1023 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: And once again you are not on the side of 1024 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: the majority eighty two percent taking the Cowboys eighteen percent. 1025 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: Which shows just how monumental that move is. Oh yeah, 1026 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: if eighty percent are on the Cowboys and the line 1027 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 2: goes from two to three and a. 1028 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: Half, yeah, all right, let's go to the Chiefs visiting 1029 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens Sunday night football. I believe the Ravens are 1030 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: now getting three and a half. There were three when 1031 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: I checked on Sunday night, I think before the or 1032 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: a Monday night before the Ravens game. So getting three 1033 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: and a half at home against Chiefs, what do you think? 1034 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 2: I think the best spot here is actually the under. 1035 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: I think the last I saw was fifty five to 1036 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 2: fifty five and a half. 1037 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the consensus right now is fifty four and a half. 1038 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that, Okay, So yeah, so it's coming down, 1039 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 2: So my inclinations are coming through there. I think John 1040 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: Harbaugh will be smart enough to know that the traditional 1041 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,959 Speaker 2: style of blitzing and going ham and throwing the kitchen 1042 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: seek at Patrick Mahomes, it's just not going to work. 1043 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: So play a little bit back, play some too deep, 1044 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: keep things in front of you, keep the pace of 1045 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 2: the game slower. And we know on offense that Baltimore 1046 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: is not going to be throwing the ball all over 1047 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 2: the pitch. They don't have the horses to do so. 1048 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 2: And Lamar Jackson's strength is certainly not throwing the ball. 1049 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: So I think we're going to see a lot of 1050 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: controlled pace running and even on defense, a little less 1051 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 2: aggressiveness from Baltimore. So I think the unders to play 1052 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 2: in this spot. I've just seen this so many times 1053 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 2: where I've wanted to take a good team getting points 1054 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: at home against the Chiefs and I've just ended up 1055 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: with egg on my face. 1056 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I can't do it. I think that's 1057 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: spread probably a stay away from me. But it's a 1058 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: good point on the total, I mean, and I think 1059 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: that that's what the Ravens are going to want to, 1060 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, do, in order to limit what Mahomes can do. 1061 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: Last one Packers at home Monday Night football, eleven point favorites, 1062 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: embarrassed by the Saints. What do you think? 1063 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, who's playing corner for the Lions. 1064 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: I don't want it. I know Kuda's out for the year, 1065 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's bad. 1066 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 2: The I think for the season, the Lions, like they 1067 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: showed last week, are going to be a team that 1068 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 2: doesn't tend to quit. Right when your head coach is 1069 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: the guy biting off kneecaps and taking baseball bat sessions. 1070 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: I don't think this is a team that's going to 1071 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 2: be laying over. So I think there's going to be 1072 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: a lot of double digit spots for the Lions this 1073 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 2: season where they are the right side, the game is 1074 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: a lot closer, and just because they're like three to 1075 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 2: ten or whatever, everyone's still going to be clicking the 1076 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: other side while the Lions have like an above average 1077 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 2: ats spread. But this is not the spot. Rogers off 1078 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: a loss, completely embarrassed at home Lambeau night game. Yeah, 1079 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: you cannot find me clicking the Lions enough. One. 1080 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 1: I'll take the Packers and yeah, there's a backdoor cover possibility. 1081 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't care. I will own that. I think that 1082 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 1: this is just gonna be a really really, really really 1083 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: angry Packers team, and I think they will learn from 1084 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: what they saw last week, which in part was due 1085 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: to the fact that they had some injuries on defense 1086 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, but in part was due 1087 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: to the fact that the Lions just you know, you're 1088 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 1: able to dump it off to the running backs. I 1089 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: think they'll know, you know that there are no wide 1090 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: receivers that Dared Goff is going to try to throw 1091 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: to you. Blanket T J. Hockinson, you have, you know, 1092 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: you have guys waiting for those running backs out of 1093 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: the backfield. I think that they will hold on beyond 1094 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 1: the back door cover. So I do like the Packers here, 1095 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: I lean that way, But yeah, I fear for Detroit 1096 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: in that game. Let's very briefly recap what our actual 1097 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, our top six picks are. You're taking the 1098 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: Panthers getting three and a half again from the Saints. 1099 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: You were taking the Jaguars, you brave, Brave sould getting 1100 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: six from the Broncos, And you were taking the Texans 1101 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: and the branch under forty seven and a half. And 1102 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: I am taking the Vikings getting three and a half 1103 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals, the Titans getting five and a half 1104 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: from the Seahawks, and the Dolphins getting three and a 1105 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: half from the Bills, all underdogs for us. For our 1106 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: official picks for the over under I love it. This 1107 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: is the week, This is the week for the underdogs, 1108 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: for the bounce back, rich to or fantastic guests. I 1109 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: missed talking to you. It was good to catch up. 1110 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,479 Speaker 1: Remind everybody where they can find you and your work. 1111 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, great to be here. Grid Iron Gamble, you can 1112 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: find it on any podcatter, Spotify, Stitcher, Apple. We do 1113 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: our weekly Circa Sports Million selections and then we recap those, 1114 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: and we actually do a good recap. Donnie Peters is 1115 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: a great recap of the Las Vegas contests as a whole. 1116 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 2: You know who the leaders are, who scored what points 1117 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 2: last week, So check that out. 1118 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: How'd you do last week? Out of curiosity in the circa. 1119 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 2: So we have two entries. We went two and three 1120 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: on both of them. We had Baltimore minus four to 1121 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 2: close out the week on Monday night. The fact that 1122 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 2: they were up two point two yards for play at halftime, 1123 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 2: which if you if you divide yards for play by 1124 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: point one five, you tend to get the amount of 1125 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 2: points that a team should be ahead. So they were 1126 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 2: projected to be ahead sixteen at that they were not. 1127 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: They were not. Yeah that stinks, but two and three 1128 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: in one of those contests that doesn't bury you whatsoever. 1129 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, early too, so. 1130 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially just avoid the big one and four, zero 1131 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: and five weeks should be fine, all right. Anyway, thank 1132 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: you so much for coming by. You guys know this 1133 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: by now. On Monday, we'll be back taking an early 1134 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: look at the lines, and later on we'll have the 1135 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: College Football which dropped yesterday college Football podcast breaking down 1136 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: each week. Then we follow up with our best bets here. 1137 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: Thank you again, download listen anywhere you subscribe to podcasts, 1138 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, cast box Ley Review as well, and we 1139 00:53:44,440 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: will talk to again in a couple of days.