1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: this Monday edition, the NBA Finals are in the books. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Congratulations through the Oklahoma City Thunder your world champions. But 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliverton ruptured Achilles? Why did it happen? How did 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it happen? Could have been prevented? All the talking points 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: in conversations surrounding the injury and what the future looks 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: like for him and the Indiana Pacers with doctor David Chow, 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: who's going to stop by. We're also going to have 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: a shout out to somebody in the NFL who's at 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: least trying to keep a rivalry going. He's trying his 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: best to keep this rivalry going. We will discuss Kevin Durant, 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: He's moving to another team, a complicated career he has had. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about the career of Tyreek Hill. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: One minute he wants to be in Miami, the next 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: minute he doesn't. The next minute he wants to try 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and sell Jalen Ramsey on being a dolphin, and then 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey doesn't want to be a dolphin. It's a 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: mess Plus we've got Lee's leftovers and the FSRII R. 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: It's all yours coming up next. Here, Two Pros and 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe on a Monday, Fox Sports Radio. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio tracking Black. 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: We're back. 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Lavarrington. 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: Good morning, sir. 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you. 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: You can listen to this show as always on the 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: all across the country and wherever you are making us 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: a part of your Monday morning, we appreciate. 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: You doing so. 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: It is black and here on this Monday morning that's 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: got to be racist all the way up until nine 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. And congratulations are in 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: order to the Oklahoma City Thunder. 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: A game seven. 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: It took, but a game seven got them their first 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: ever NBA Championship. Congratulations to the OKAC Thunder and their 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: fan base on the NBA Finals win. And I know 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about what could have been if 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: not for the injury to Tyrese Haliburton. 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: Well, they got off to a quick start, and that 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: should be noted that it looked like it was going 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: to be a pretty competitive final game. Haliburton unfortunately, you know, 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: hurts his lower leg. Obviously it was clearly an achilles 47 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: rupture that took place. You could see it in replay 48 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: that the NBA show owed one hundred million times in 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: slow motion, by the way, So. 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: Once he went out. 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: It's interesting the Pacers actually outscored the the OKC Thunder 52 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: in the second quarter. They actually outscored them. The undoing 53 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: of the Indiana Pacers was the sloppy play in the 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: third quarter, the amount of turnovers in the third quarter, 55 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: the lack of offensive continuity and rhythm in the third 56 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: quarter was to me what the undoing was. I mean, 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: topping Obie got his opportunity to get in there and play, 58 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: he did nothing. You know, he did nothing, contributed nothing 59 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball. Miles Turner, everybody, well, 60 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: that's just that's just the truth. And and you would 61 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: have thought that they would have had possibly a little 62 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: bit of an advantage just because of the athleticism and 63 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: empower that Obi top and was showing. And then you know, 64 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: Miles Turner was one who was able to get the 65 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: three ball going, was able to show a little bit 66 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: of versatility on the offensive side of the board on 67 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: the ball, and he just couldn't find it. Another note, 68 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: by the way, that should be added into the undoing 69 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: was second chance opportunities and in some cases third chance 70 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: opportunities for Okac, which says to me, you're getting out hustled. 71 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: You know, the couple times that they had really really 72 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: bad offensive sequences, it was because guys were staring or 73 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: collapsing down to the ball. They weren't moving around, they 74 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: weren't keeping the spacing, they weren't making it a difficult, 75 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: you know, proposition to defend them, and the Okase thunder 76 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: took advantage of it. 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's game completely changed. It felt like the way, 78 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: especially with Haliburton's start. 79 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: That we were going to get one of those. 80 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: Classic epic Game seven's, and you saw the road team 81 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: come out fired up, and you just thought, man, this 82 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: is something that's going to go down to the wire. 83 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: And what's crazy is we're so educated on achilles injuries 84 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: now from the standpoint that everybody can recognize it in 85 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: real time when it happens. And I don't know when 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: that change happened or when that change occurred. But it 87 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: feels like we all know what that looks like. 88 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: When TV cameras became HD yeah, you know, you know 89 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: you could put stuff in slow motion the way that 90 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: they do. 91 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: But even even seeing his reaction on the floor, you knew, like. 92 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: You just knew it was the same thing. 93 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: It was interesting that the media or the people announcing 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: the game, like why are you dancing over it? It's 95 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: like people that you're interviewing, like you talk to his 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: dad or whatever it may be. I think somebody even 97 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: on call, you know, calling the game, actually ended up 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: saying it. It was like just say he ruptured as 99 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: Achilles tendon, Like I know, you didn't have the official 100 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: word on it, and it was something the kind of 101 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: waiting until they tell you officially, but you could have 102 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: you could have immediately speculated the idea that you could 103 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: tell by the way it looked that it was it 104 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: was a ruptured achilles. 105 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 106 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think we all know in watching 107 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: it what that looks like now, and so we don't 108 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: need to be well, it's a it's a lower leg injury. 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Well clearly, clearly it's not an upper leg injury. Clearly 110 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: it's not an upper body injury. Tyrese Haliburton, and you 111 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: can almost see the trainer whoever came over to him, 112 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I think, asked him did you feel it pop? 113 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: And he just kind of was screaming I did. I did, 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: And you just knew that was it. 115 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: That was over. 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: And the worst part is, you know, not is it 117 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: over for that game in that series, It's probably over 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: for all the next year too. 119 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: That's a that is a brutal and I mean, you 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: would know. 121 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: Lot sofice one these days. You know, uh, acls used 122 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: to be career killers. Achilles tendons, they weren't career killers, 123 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: but it just all depended on how you adjusted and 124 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: adapted to the new the new leg, the new lower 125 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: leg that you would have after the surgery. And it 126 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: took a really really long time to be able to 127 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: come back. But at one point achilles were actually probably 128 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: a career a career ender or career alterer. And those 129 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: were the two. You know, everything else MCLs, pcls, you know, meniscus, 130 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: those things seemed to be more minor. 131 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: But you toured out. 132 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: Ah interior cruciate ligament that was a career ender and 133 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: let me tell you something. The Achilles tendon is the 134 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: biggest tendon in your body. That thing, when it goes, 135 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 4: it is one of the most absolute painful deals you'll 136 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: ever deal with. Man, it is that. I mean, I'm 137 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: a grown man and I have a pretty high pain tolerance. 138 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: It had me crying like tears, Like not like oh 139 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: it hurts, but more like how Denzel was standing there 140 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: when he was getting whipped in Glory and not one 141 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: tear came out his eye and it just went real 142 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: slow down his face. Like that type of pain, man, Yeah, 143 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: that type of pain you don't want. 144 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it definitely changed how we viewed 145 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: that game and what the I guess the recap and 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: the storyline of that game would be. But nonetheless, I mean, 147 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot on the injury that we're going to 148 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: get into throughout the course of the show. But you 149 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: got to give your flowers to SGA, Shake, Gilgess, Alexander, 150 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: who did speak afterwards just about their mindset, the win, 151 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: how they feel about the team, and what they could 152 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: possibly accomplish moving forward. 153 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: We definitely still have room to grow, and that's the 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: fun part of this. So many of us can still 155 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 5: get better our third row. It's not very many of 156 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: us on the team that are quote unquote in our 157 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: prime or even close to it. 158 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: So we have a lot of. 159 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: Room to grow individually and as a group. And I'm 160 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: excited for the future of this team. But this is 161 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 5: a great start for sure. Couldn't imagine any other way. 162 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: That's a brilliant year that he just finished off. Yes 163 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, I mean. 164 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: Basically enough to thrust him into being one of the 165 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: names that is mentioned as you know, as a name. 166 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: It's interesting, and I know that might sound like a 167 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: crazy take, but it just seems as though when you 168 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: talk about the names that are still driving the game, 169 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: SGA's name comes up. But do you now lead off 170 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: with SGA's name after after this series, after this season, 171 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,119 Speaker 4: MVP season, MVP of the playoffs, you know, or the finals? 172 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: Does this does this now propel you know, SGA into 173 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: that conversation of being one of the main names, not 174 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: not after you give out the main names. Then he 175 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 4: comes right after you give out the Lebron James or 176 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: the Steph Curry's or the Kevin Durantz like those eras 177 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: seemingly are now concluding and you need those young stars 178 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: to step in. I mean, we've talked about Giannis at nauseum. 179 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: We've talked about Jason Tatum, even even Jaylen Brown. We've 180 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: talked about them more than we've talked about it SGA. 181 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: And maybe it's because of the the you know, the 182 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: markets that they're in, you know, but these are these 183 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: are names that have come up. You know, Joel Embiid 184 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: and he hasn't even really you know, been too much 185 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: since since the MVP year. But I just wonder does 186 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: this series does this year? Does the OKC Thunder season 187 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: thrust not only s g A into the main conversation 188 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 4: of one of the main players in the NBA, and 189 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: and what does it do for the Thunder. You know, 190 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: this team wasn't able to get it done with KD. Harden, 191 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: you know, Serge Abaka and Westbrook, you weren't able to 192 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: get it done. And now they've been able to deliver 193 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: a first championship to the OKC Thunder. This is a 194 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: big moment for for that franchise, is a big moment 195 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: for that town and and I would assume to be 196 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: able to take advantage of it. This is a big 197 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: moment for the NBA as well. 198 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: So you want to know whether or not SGA is 199 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: going to become a talking point like other superstars in 200 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: the NBA, Like that's that's that's the question. Because I 201 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: have the answer, you won't say no, probably not, probably not, 202 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: And you want to know why, because they've got a 203 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: squeeze every last drop of the Lebron. 204 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: Rag that they can while they got it. Got to 205 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: squeeze it. 206 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: You gotta got every every drop out. You want that 207 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: thing to be bone dry afterwards. They're just they're going 208 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: to pick at the carcass of Lebron James for as 209 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: long as they possibly can because they know that that's 210 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: what feeds and that's and that's the way the NBA's 211 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: worked for a long time, and they're going to be 212 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: in for root awakening when Lebron James does decide to 213 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: walk away, because he really has carried the discussion and 214 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: the conversation for that league for a couple of decades now, 215 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: and they've got an opportunity. They've got an opportunity to 216 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: promote and try and get coverdge for some of these 217 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: younger stars guys like SGA, Guys like a Tatum or 218 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: a Brown last year like they've got opportunities, they've got 219 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: a chance here. It took them forever to finally acknowledge, hey, 220 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: maybe Indiana's pretty good. I mean, everybody just wanted to 221 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: coordinate the Knicks because they got past the Celtics with 222 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: all their injuries, and Indiana was standing there going excuse us, like, 223 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: we're pretty good as well too, and we're going to 224 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: be the team that represents this conference in the finals. 225 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: And so if they can rally around the idea of hey, 226 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: Lebron's going to be on his way out soon, the 227 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: end is near and we're going to have to transition 228 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: to try and find new stars and new conversations and 229 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: new talking points. If they can do that and accept that, 230 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: then they got a chance. If not, it's just going 231 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: to be great players who get a fraction of the 232 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: coverage because people don't know how to cover the newer 233 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: generation of NBA players. 234 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: So interesting. It's interesting because it probably is a very 235 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: important coat that they need to figure out how to crack. 236 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: In terms of just the development of this new age 237 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: of stars. It looked like it might have been John 238 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: Morant for a moment and then he, you know, kind 239 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: of shot it. 240 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: Ol Way or you know, blew it away, no pun. 241 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: Into Yeah, you know, he he had other things on 242 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: his mind. 243 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: Can I defend John Morant? 244 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 245 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: Sure. 246 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Gunlighter sales really spiked after that video came out there 247 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: you go, you know how many people were smoking weed 248 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: out back somewhere and they pulled out a nine millimeter 249 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: with a flame coming out of it and they probably 250 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: said thanks, like, oh. 251 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: Good, keep the party going on, past the back, past 252 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: the bowl player. 253 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, ready to take up. 254 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: No violence here baby all ve. 255 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: Anyway, so he kind of messed himself up off the court, 256 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: and now the conversation went away from him. It seemed 257 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: as though our guy, you know, Anthony Atwards, was on 258 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: the pathway of being maybe anointed the new face of 259 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: the league. But it almost seems as though he needs 260 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: to I don't know, I don't know what they need 261 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: to do. Maybe a little bit more maturity. Maybe it's 262 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: just they need the stars aligned for him. But he 263 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: needed to take it a little bit further than what 264 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: he did this year, to take a definitive step forward 265 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: to be that face. In fact, so much so where 266 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: now you have to maybe start having the conversation of 267 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: is SGA gaining that type of momentum where he could 268 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: be looked at as possibly the face of the NBA. 269 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you have the Tatum conversation, but but people 270 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: seem to be largely in part let down by Jason Tatum. 271 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean no fault of his own this year. You know, 272 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: he dealt with injury during during the playoffs. But you 273 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: know who's who's the guy? You know, out of this 274 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: younger generation, it just doesn't seem to be. I mean, 275 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: Nicola Jokic and and Luca are our guys that are 276 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: being looked at as phenoms. Wimby's being looked at as 277 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: as a phenom, but. 278 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: Faces of the league. 279 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: There's there's I think that what we learned from the 280 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan era of time and the Magic Johnson era 281 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: of time was it has to be more than just 282 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: the way you play the game. There has to be 283 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: and for what it's worth, whether you're a Lebron James 284 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: supporter or you're a detractor. One thing you can't take 285 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: away from him is he understood the value and the 286 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 4: quality of what it took for Kobe Bryant or a 287 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan or a Magic Johnson to be able to 288 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: truly be what they became to the league, even Steph 289 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: Curry excellent, excellent approach, excellent job and being able to 290 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: build their brands outside of being able to play basketball. 291 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: Jonas and that, to me, the personalities and understanding, the 292 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: ability to be able to capture your audience, I almost 293 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: feel like in some way that's maybe missing. It's not 294 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 4: as prevalent amongst these new new players as it once 295 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: was before. 296 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: There's also been a real I don't know if effort 297 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: is the right word, but it has felt like even 298 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: when a newer star comes along in the NBA, there's 299 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: there's almost like a push to find the flaw. 300 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: Like with SGA. 301 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Look, people can say, well, you know his style of 302 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: play is you know he you know, he tries to 303 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: create too many fouls and he flops. Look, that may 304 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: be true. Dude's a great player. I mean he is 305 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: a great player. He was the best player in the 306 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: league this year. It doesn't mean he's the best player 307 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: in the league. I think a lot of people look 308 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: at Joker and still say he's the guy. But he 309 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: just capped off an incredible season and he won a 310 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: title for that franchise. 311 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: He said, a great year. 312 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: But there is going to be some people that dismissed 313 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: the style of play because it's not entertaining and nobody 314 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: wants to see the fouls, et cetera. When James Harden 315 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: was averaging over thirty a game, doing something that a 316 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: couple of guys had ever done in the history of 317 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: the NBA, the knock on James Harden was, Yeah, but 318 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: it's just that step back and he just throws it 319 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: up and it what so because exactly who's going in exactly. 320 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: It's like when people would complain about Floyd Mayweather. Yeah, 321 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: but if you know his fights are. 322 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: Boring, they're boring. 323 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: Oh, he's boring, and it's just it's too defensive. 324 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, seems like something work because he made 325 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: more money than anybody, and you ever heard the guy 326 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: talk before all his faculties, Like doesn't seem like he's punch. 327 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: Drunk, by the way, and he never lost no. 328 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: So like like why the push defined the flaw instead 329 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: of just acknowledging. Hey, man, different strokes for different folks. 330 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: This works. That works to each their own. The shots 331 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: are going in, he's making them. He had an incredible 332 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: run and an incredible season. But sometimes we get caught 333 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: up in this. Yeah, but he doesn't he you know 334 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: the way he does it. You know, it's not like 335 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: it so what it toxic culture? I mean, that's that's 336 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: that's what drafts things. I'm telling you. It's the craziest thing. 337 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I went up, like, I went up like four five. 338 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 4: Thousand followers just because I posted a post that was 339 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: considered to be controversial to those that can't read or 340 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: don't read or don't take the time to put things 341 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 4: in the proper context. Because that's just the way the 342 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 4: brain works. For today's culture. You know, the culture is 343 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 4: toxic culture, cringe cringe top cringe culture. You know, that's 344 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: that's what it is. So people people cling, and people 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: gravitate to mean, they gravitate to negative. 346 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: You know. 347 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: It's it's interesting you put up a positive quote, a 348 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: positive post. 349 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: Your. 350 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 4: Likes and your views significantly fall off. I got the 351 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: data now. I don't even have to say per se 352 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: or I think the data says if you put up 353 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 4: something that maybe maybe has a toxic vibe to it, 354 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: or a you know, somebody died type deal type of 355 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: vibe to it, like watching somebody fall, like what took 356 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: place with the hot air balloon. Like, you look at 357 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 4: the views on that, it's like a gazillion views. 358 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: Bro, take that for data. There you go, thank you. 359 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: Then you put up something like hey, get up early, 360 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: work hard, eat your breakfast, believe that you can win today, 361 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: it'd be like one like, I don't. I don't need 362 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: to hear no positivity from you. I'm all about the negativity. 363 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: I can't. 364 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: I'm not one to judge, you know. I retweet all 365 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the bad stuff. I just think it's hilarious. Yeah, but 366 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: you retweet what they say can help it. I love 367 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: trolling them too, by the way, sometimes I make time. 368 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: I love going on your posts and trolling. That's a 369 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: that's a fertile ground to go on. 370 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh man. Yeah they have some weirdos. You've 371 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: got some good ones, but you got some straight up 372 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: weirdos that be following. 373 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're eating good I got somebody under somebody dusted 374 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: off an oldie, but a goodie. 375 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: This weekend they called me a piss ant. 376 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: Which is one of the good ones. One of the ant. 377 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the great terms of all time. It 378 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: is like I hadn't heard that in years. That is 379 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: an old one, And I think if you look up 380 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: the definition. I think we're looking it up. It means 381 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: uh like worthless or insignificant or something like that. 382 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: I believe an insignificant or contemptible person or thing. Yeah, gees, 383 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: piss love piss ant, and I'm reading up on the 384 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: type of ant that is. Shut up, leeve, you piss ant. 385 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: We got to start dusting lying. 386 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: It's not like. 387 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 4: That. 388 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: We got to start dusting that off. 389 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: But goodie hair. 390 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: How was the freak with the vegans? 391 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: How was that? 392 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Vegas, Vegas. 393 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: Sorry, it's hard to contain myself. 394 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: It is two pros old Bluster at Las Vegas, two 395 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Trading. Yeah, 396 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: no invite for us. 397 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: Not for us. 398 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: We were left out like they're gonna invite a couple 399 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: of piss ants like us. 400 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: Uh And there you go. That now it's been used correctly. 401 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 6: The fun note about the piss at is that it's 402 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 6: a wood type of ant that actually has a urine 403 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: like odor. 404 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, hence hence the name. 405 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: That's why. 406 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 4: How do you get close enough to it and tell me? 407 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: Have you ever smelled an ant? 408 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 409 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Do you guys ever kill the sugar ants in your 410 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: kitchen with your fingers and then they smell really bad. 411 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 4: I hate that's weird and that's wild. I've never heard 412 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: of an aunt. I think fire your ants is the 413 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: only thing I've ever heard. Sugar ants, black ant, I've 414 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: heard it. I've heard of black ant me too. 415 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: Rachel had a couple of them, that. 416 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: Is like several leg I think I got four they forgot. 417 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: I hate ants. 418 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: I hate ants. 419 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: Dad has three sisters, my mom has one. I have 420 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 4: four black ants. 421 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: Do you. 422 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: We call them ants in Pittsburgh and some people call 423 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: them on Yeah, you know. 424 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: Got it. 425 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: I hate ants, just hate them every time because here's 426 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the problem. You see one, there's five hundred just waiting 427 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: to crawl through the crack. If you see one ant, 428 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: just get ready. 429 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: Do you know if you. 430 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: Draw lines in front of them, they will like get 431 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: all discombobulated. You ever see that done before? 432 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: Really? Yeah? 433 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: But something about their sensory, like if you were to 434 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: draw like black lines in front of them, they'll avoid 435 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 4: the lines. So you could actually trap one in a 436 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: circle if you if you if you happen to see one, 437 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: you know, crawling around the studio, just try to find 438 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: a way to get it to walk onto a white 439 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: piece of paper and then just start drawing lines on it. 440 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just. 441 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: Can't stand them. Really bothered me? What about when I 442 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: just say, really bothered me a lot? 443 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 3: I hate them? 444 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: What about? Uh when Ozzy Osbourne and. 445 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Was all twazzled out on whatever he was, whatever he 446 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: was using at the time, and he got down on 447 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: all fours and ends. Yeah, he snorted a row of 448 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: fire ants. 449 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: How's that guy alive? You know what I mean? 450 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: Like, oh boy, they were alive? 451 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think his next sneeze was? 452 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, man, Like the Dragon off Game 453 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: of Throne. 454 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 4: Some cats truly be taking all physical challenge for no 455 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: apparent reason either, Yeah they do. 456 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: I don't get it. All right. 457 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here 458 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you. 459 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: So we are going to have the usuals coming up 460 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: later on. 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A who's who 496 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: of celebrities and sports, etc. All were there and one 497 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: of the athletes who spoke at fanatics Fest was Caleb 498 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: Williams who decided to take a couple of shots at 499 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and their fan base. Our loyal 500 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: listeners statewide listening in Wisconsin right now probably won't be 501 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: thrilled with this. Caleb Williams said that Packers fans suck. 502 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: He also pointed out that the Bears did beat Green 503 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Bay in his one and only trip to Green Bay 504 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: last season in the final week of the season, pointed 505 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: out that he was one to zero in Green Bay, 506 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: and he also pointed out that they tried to jump 507 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: in to do the Lambeau leap after they beat the Packers, 508 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: and that Packer fans were throwing stuff at him and 509 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: pushing their faces, etc. 510 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: Etc. 511 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what he really expected when you're 512 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: trying to jump in and do the Lambeau leap, even 513 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: if you're jumping into the arms of a Bears fan 514 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: who's sitting there. But I'll give Caleb Williams credit for this. 515 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: At least somebody's trying to keep that rivalry alive because 516 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: nobody on the Bears has done their part for years now. 517 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they have been the doormat in that matchup 518 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: for a long ass time. So at least Caleb Williams 519 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: is trying to ignite a fire into the rivalry to 520 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: get it going because it has been nonexistent and a 521 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: one sided affair for years now in the NFC North. 522 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: I mean, get it going because it's cool to have. 523 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: I guess the conversation you know about him having a 524 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: one one win record against against them in Lambeau. But 525 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: as you mentioned, I mean, they haven't been good. So 526 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: if you're if you're trying to fuel a fire too, 527 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: what is a historic rivalry? I mean, wouldn't you want 528 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: to win more games. 529 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you want your. 530 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: Team based upon you specifically, among others, be a better 531 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 4: team of a better product of a team. I just 532 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: don't That one kind of missed me a little bit, 533 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: just based upon the relevance of who they are. You know, 534 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: there's so many things that you could pinpoint from a 535 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: five to twelve team and to say that that you 536 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: know which, By the way, the team you're taking a 537 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: shot at was an eleven win team and they were 538 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: right next to you in the division, So. 539 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: You got two more you got two more teams to 540 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: look up at. Even if you. 541 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: Were to restore the rivalry between the Green Bay Packers, 542 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: I just it's, you know, until they start winning, conversations 543 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: like these will always be the punchline to a joke. 544 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: I just hate to say it, Lee, and I hate 545 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: to say it for you Jonas, because you're both fans 546 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: of one of these teams, as well as as Lafleur 547 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: and and Love have done posts posts Aaron Rodgers. You know, 548 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: time there. They still finished third last year, which is crazy. 549 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: That's crazy the thing. 550 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: Especially considering they've got you know, three bye weeks each season, 551 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: They've got their action well bye week and then They've 552 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: got the Bears twice in the schedule, you know, for 553 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: for anybody celebrating Caleb Williams and his comments about the Packers. 554 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Just so we're clear here, the Bears are three and 555 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: seventeen against Green Bay in the last ten years. They've 556 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: been a laughing stock in that matchup for a long ast. 557 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 6: It had been six years since they had won, and 558 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 6: that's just versus the Packers. 559 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: It had been nine years since they had won in 560 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: Green Bay. 561 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, and this is not to ball 562 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: wash green Bay or the Packer fan base. Lee actually 563 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: went to Green Bay this past season. He said the 564 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: best part of Green Bay was O'Hare Airport, which. 565 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 566 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why he would have made those claims, 567 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: especially live on the air. That was insulting to our Wisconsin. 568 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: I love, Yeah, I loved everything about Green Bay. He's 569 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: like this, man, man, this green Bay is really something now. 570 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Boarding American Airlines plugen eighteen. But it's just look, man, 571 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, somebody's got to try and do something because 572 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: this has not been much of a rivalry. 573 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur. 574 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: That was his only loss to the Bears as head coach, 575 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: and one of the things that Bears fans always talk 576 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: about is when Lovey Smith first got the job, one 577 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: of the things he said at his introductory press conference 578 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: was beat Green Bay. And it is one of those 579 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: historic rivalries where I guess, similar to college football, you 580 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: are kind of judged in a way on how you 581 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: perform against your rival like that that matters. And there's 582 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: not that many of those matchups or rivalries, so to speak, 583 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This one, at least they're trying to 584 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: get there, but it has been complete dominant by Green 585 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: Bay for a long ass time. There bears again, a 586 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: historical value. You can't you can't. 587 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: Recreate historical value. You know, these are two fabled and 588 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: very very respected traditionally, you know, franchises. So there's that 589 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: when when the historic value is there, there's always a 590 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: chance to rekindle or or find it, you know, what 591 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: the rivalry represents along the way. 592 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: When you guys were when you were in Washington and 593 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were coming up. 594 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: It was still a relevant rivalry. 595 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: Did that feel different? 596 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: But we were the Chicago Bears on the side of 597 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: it when I was there, and we were always losing 598 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: to to Dallas. Always like there was one. I think 599 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 4: my first year we lost to them both times. I 600 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: think the second year I was there, you know, I 601 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: think we split with them. I think we lost to 602 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: them there and then beat them at home. Now I 603 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: don't really remember the rest of it, but I don't 604 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: I don't recall winning again Dallas very often. And so 605 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: it's like that is a rivalry and and and fans 606 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: will tell you, well, used to you know, just beat Dallas, 607 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: you know, and you got to the point where your 608 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 4: fans had to say that to you when you saw 609 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: it when they saw you, which was sad in itself, like, 610 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: you guys aren't very good. But if y'all could just 611 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: beat Dallas, I think, are you know, I'll be happy 612 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: for the season. But it was that big of a rivalry, 613 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: don't I don't know that it's still that big of 614 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: a rivalry. And then the name changed. I don't know 615 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: what relevance it kind of carried over from you know, 616 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 4: being you know, basically Cowboys versus Indians. 617 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: So I don't, you know, I don't know. 618 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Do you know your record against the Cowboys all time, 619 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: lebar Arrington, because I have it here. 620 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 4: I mean I would as I would assume we beat 621 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 4: them twice. I beat them twice something to that effect. 622 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: Three and eight in eleven games against the Cowboys. You 623 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: were four and seven in eleven games against the Giants. 624 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: But and I believe this was back when the Cardinals 625 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: were the Cardinals still in the NFC East back then, 626 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: because you were four and one against the Cardinals. So 627 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: for some reason, you really you really lighted up in 628 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: Arizona there. 629 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: Well, that's our team. It wasn't. It wasn't one on one. 630 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: I played one position. What you said, I don't know. 631 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 4: I knew what it felt like to play against the 632 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: team that you were kind of intimidated by. 633 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: I had saw what that looked like. 634 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: I've never really subscribed to being intimidated by a team, 635 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 4: but rivalries can create that type of mental block if 636 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: you're on the wrong side of it, and it's almost 637 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: like you expect something to go wrong. I experienced that 638 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 4: against Michigan in college, and we just never we never 639 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: beat Michigan, no matter. 640 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: Like how well we we did. 641 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: And you know, there's there's reasons why I believe we 642 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 4: lost two of the three. 643 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: But that's why, Like those guys that left Ohio State 644 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: that never beat Michigan in that rivalry. You're gonna have 645 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: to eat that the rest of your life. 646 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 4: And that's that's a lot. It doesn't seem like a 647 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 4: long time, but when you're in school, that's an eternity. 648 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 4: Like first one, I'm like, dang. Then you lose again, 649 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: that just feels like it feels strange, man, And then 650 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: to lose the third one, it was it just seemed 651 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: like you're there for like that was something that's a 652 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: forever deal, like you mentioned, and it is. I mean 653 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 4: I still have to live with that. I'm sure all 654 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: of us that played on those teams have to live 655 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 4: with the fact that we never to win against against Michigan. 656 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: So so I was used to it when we got 657 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: to the league and it was like, oh, this feels familiar. 658 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean you were three and oh against the Rams. 659 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, well, I didn't know that dominant. 660 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here 661 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you 662 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: coming up next, though maybe a little bit more to 663 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: the story. A big topic of conversation in the world 664 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: of sports over the weekend. We'll give you the details 665 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: right here on FSR. 666 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 667 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 668 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 669 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 670 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top 671 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: next hour about ten minutes from now. Apparently somebody's got 672 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stroke in the world of sports. 673 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: You'll hear from him again. 674 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: That'll be yours here a little over ten minutes from 675 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: now before we get to another edition of In case 676 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: you missed it though, a reminder that you can stream 677 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: this year on all of our Fox Sports Radio shows 678 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Live twenty four to seven and the new and improved 679 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app 680 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: to stream us live. One of the newest features in 681 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: the app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio 682 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: is one of your presets, just like the presets on 683 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: a radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports 684 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeartRadio app and it will always. 685 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: Pop up at the top of your screen. 686 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 7: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 687 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 7: sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to 688 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 7: bring you in case you missed it. 689 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, 690 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: Lea lap Oh. 691 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 6: Good Monday morning, everybody. 692 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 2: Good morning jonas A, good morning LeVar, guys. In case 693 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: you missed it. 694 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: Over the weekend, the great John Bones Jones has called 695 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: it a day for the ufc UH, expressing his deepest 696 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 6: gratitude over social media for his journey and the experiences 697 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 6: he's had over the years, saying he's stepping out of 698 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 6: the octagon. But also of note for mister John Bones 699 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 6: Jones over the weekend from Albuquerque is that. 700 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: He has been charged with leaving the scene of an accident. 701 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 3: Word. 702 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Intoxicated woman lacking clothing from the waist down was found. Yeah, 703 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 2: facing several DUIs all of a sudden. 704 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 3: Helped me understand that one. 705 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: All right, So. 706 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: Apparently this woman they found her in the passenger seat 707 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: of a car that had been stranded. She had no 708 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: clothes below the waist, okay, and she claimed that John 709 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: Jones was driving. Apparently she was bombed and she claimed 710 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: that John Jones was driving. When they called John Jones, 711 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: I guess he was like really sounded really impaired as 712 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: well too, And I think did he make some sort 713 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: of a threat or something like that. There was like 714 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: a like he threatened action or like something weird because 715 00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: he was hammered. And so now this has come out, 716 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: this is not his first issue that he's had. He's 717 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: obviously had run ins with the law previous to this. 718 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stuff. It just adds another 719 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: layer to a complicated career for a guy who is 720 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, Like nobody's ever done it 721 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: better than John Jones. But you know, a woman in 722 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: a car with no clothes on below the waist, claiming 723 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: that he was driving, I mean, what was he driving? 724 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 6: By the way, the police report uses the term allegedly 725 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 6: made allusions to violence? 726 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 2: Is the term that the police report uses. 727 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, did they where work? Did they find her clothes? 728 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: Lee? 729 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, still searching for the clothes. 730 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 4: She had no accusations as to you know, him having 731 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 4: anything to do with those being off. 732 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, did she say who took her clothes below the waist? 733 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: Clearly she did not say who took it. She did 734 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: say mushroom were involved, though, Okay, I'm sure they were 735 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 2: some kind too. Yeah. I mean, listen, man. 736 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 3: I just think he's all the way retired. 737 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't either,