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Speaker 1: let's stop into the game. Where do we even start?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think sometimes it's easy to make

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Speaker 1: And then you got Nathaniel Hackett and the Broncos are

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Speaker 1: Raiders always lose. They've had two winning seasons in over

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Speaker 1: twenty years. They really haven't been that relevant since Tom

427
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Speaker 1: Brady was like twenty three years old. He's forty five now.

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Speaker 1: So when you choose to go to the Raiders because

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Speaker 1: you want to play with your buddy, I get it.

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00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: We all want to do stuff like that. But from

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Speaker 1: a professional standpoint, because you're already super rich and the

432
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: Packers were willing to pay you, from a football standpoint,

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Speaker 1: that's a terrible decision. And yeah, he's having a good

434
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Speaker 1: statistical year. DeVante would have good stats with whoever he

435
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: plays with their one four, and he's being charged with assault.

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Speaker 1: Think about this. DeVante Adams, in my opinion, is one

437
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Speaker 1: of the higher character guys in the league. There was

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Speaker 1: a viral video going last week about DeVante running over

439
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: a dude on the Packers not only picked the guy

440
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: up on the sideline, put his beanie back on, then

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00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: he goes to the Raiders, who, let's face it, have

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Speaker 1: kind of a negative connotation that travels with the franchise,

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Speaker 1: and now he's being charged with fucking assault, which we

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Speaker 1: all agree is stupid, but still that's a act. And

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00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: the Packers, who are an abomination on offense, they are

446
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: a joke from a passing game. Not because the quarterback

447
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: is not really good. I don't know, he's just the

448
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: reigning MVP back to back. He has nobody to throw

449
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: do so you can patchwork a game like they did

450
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Speaker 1: last year when Davante was hurt and they beat the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals on a short week. You can do that.

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Speaker 1: Any team can. You can't sustain over a period of

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Speaker 1: time the season without this guy, and you're seeing it

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. They got problems their defense. Everyone's like

455
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: their defense is fine. One touchdown in that game was

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Speaker 1: because of a blocked punt right. Their defense is not

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Speaker 1: and Bryce Hall busted out a a long run, which

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Speaker 1: the guy's stunt. We'll get into the Jets here in

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Speaker 1: a second. The Packers cannot score. They have no firepower

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Speaker 1: on offense. They lose mbs lizards basically their one. They're

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Speaker 1: depending on these rookies. Clearly their star quarterback is not

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Speaker 1: comfortable throwing the randoms. He was very comfortable with DeVante.

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00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Davante was very comfortable with him. Do you know what

464
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Speaker 1: happened when those two guys played together, They won a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know what happens when you go play with your

466
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Speaker 1: buddy in Vegas? You lose. Do you know what Derek's

467
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of in his career losing? I'm

468
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: not acting like Derek some scrub, but the franchise, they

469
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Speaker 1: lose a lot. And the Packers right now are really struggling.

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Speaker 1: They're a disaster at three and three, the Raiders are

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Speaker 1: one and four. It's like just another year for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of typical part for the course. And I

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Speaker 1: think when I watched the Packers, I go their defense

474
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Speaker 1: is good enough. They definitely have the firepower in terms

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Speaker 1: of a running game, there. Their firepower in a passing

476
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Speaker 1: league is a joke. It truly is. Now we knew it,

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Speaker 1: but it's another thing to see it. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is the downfall. It's why they get worked for

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Well, why Jets have a good pass rush,

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Speaker 1: They have a good dB. They have the linebacker number

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Speaker 1: fifty six, Quincy Williams. Who the hell is that guy?

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Speaker 1: He's a baller, so the Jets took it to him.

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Speaker 1: And let's talk about the Jets. Here's a simple reality

484
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Speaker 1: with Joe Douglas. Since he's taken over, he has drafted

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Speaker 1: very well. They have talent all over the place. To me,

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Speaker 1: the two guys in that game that really jumped out

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Speaker 1: now he inherited. I'm pretty sure Quinn and Williams, who

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Speaker 1: has now been on the team for a while, the

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Alabama, and he did claim Quincy Williams,

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Speaker 1: the linebacker who was the third round pick years ago

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Speaker 1: from the Panthers. Uh, and they've claimed him. And those

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Speaker 1: two guys number nine and fifty six dominated that game.

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Speaker 1: But as I was told by someone on the Jet

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Speaker 1: staff in training camp, they're like, I think our best

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Speaker 1: player might be this running back from Iowa State, and

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Speaker 1: these last two games he's dominated their wide receivers. Elijah Moore,

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Speaker 1: who's bitching him on on Twitter because he's not getting

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Speaker 1: the ball enough, is really good. Garrett Wilson, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver from Ohio State, really good. Sauce Gardner stud So

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Speaker 1: they have drafted these last couple of years really really well.

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Speaker 1: And clearly Robert Sala is just a solid one. He's

502
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: a solid guy, and anytime you get a solid guy

503
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: calming influence in a chaotic environment. The Jets are a

504
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: little like the Raiders, a lot of chaos, always a

505
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of weirdness. Their owners have a little more more money,

506
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: but media market is kind of crazy, and Robert Salo

507
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: is just a pretty consistent human being. I think that helps.

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00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: He's also a pretty consistent coach. Every player that played

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Speaker 1: for him in San Francisco loved him. Why. He's an

510
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: impressive guy, and you know what's starting to come to fruition,

511
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: pretty good coach. So I think they've drafted well. I

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Speaker 1: think they got a good coach. The only question about

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Speaker 1: the Jets moving forward, and I texted with someone in

514
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: the league today, They're like, they have been a we've

515
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Speaker 1: been able to win games simply because Zach Wilson does

516
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: not turn the ball over. Just play with it himself.

517
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Speaker 1: Throw the ball less than twenty times a game. Do

518
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Speaker 1: not turn the ball over, Do not play hero ball.

519
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Maybe three or four times a game. You might have

520
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: to make a play other than that, play within under

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00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: the umbrella of the offense. Don't over extend yourself, and

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00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: they've done that. They just won a game with him

523
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Speaker 1: throwing for a hundred yards and a big reason for

524
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Speaker 1: that is they have studs a lot of different places.

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00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: That team is very, very talented. The only question mark

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Speaker 1: I have for the franchise moving forward roster good, head

527
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Speaker 1: coach solid. Is the quarterback any good? And this year

528
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Speaker 1: he just has to kind of steer the ship. But

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Speaker 1: as time goes on, does he mature, does he get better?

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Speaker 1: Is he can he play as a game manager? It's

531
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Speaker 1: not really in like who he was when he was drafted.

532
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: He was much more of a playmaker and you still

533
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: see him want to do that right, good athlete, explosive arm.

534
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Speaker 1: To me, he's the question mark because other than that,

535
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Speaker 1: I think they got a lot going for them. You

536
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: can't turn on the Jets win or lose a game

537
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: and not see the talent jump out from the screen.

538
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: It's all about the quarterback with them, And I don't

539
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: know I would. I'm leary because people that I trust

540
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL, we're not big fans. And I watched him.

541
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to corral him. Like he's not

542
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: naturally gonna play like Matt Jones or you know, Jimmy Garoppolo,

543
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Like ultimately he wants to make place and look at

544
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: those guys. When those guys try to make plays, what

545
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: happens They turn the ball over. So it's to me,

546
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: he's a fascinating case study moving forward. The other thing,

547
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks, a lot of quarterbacks are

548
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: struggling all over the league. A ton of quarterbacks, one

549
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: yesterday throwing for well under two hundred yards. And I

550
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: think will where we all thought the league was trending,

551
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: that everyone was just gonna be able to throw for

552
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: three fifty yards every week, just explosive scores. That has

553
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: not been the case this year. If anything, Let's be honest,

554
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: it's been pretty ugly. A lot of times when you've

555
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: turned the channel and flipped on different games on these Sundays,

556
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: it has been a struggle for a lot of quarterbacks

557
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and offenses to score the ball, to execute on offense.

558
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Unless you have Patrick Mahomes or you know, Josh Allen,

559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: most of these teams, even with just solid quarterbacks, like,

560
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Joe Burrow actually made

561
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of plays the other day against Saints. But

562
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: I have some theories here why this is coming to

563
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: fruition because I think for a lot of people it's like, Oh,

564
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna become seven on seven, is just

565
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be an easy passing league, and that is not

566
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Speaker 1: taking place. If you've listened to this podcast for a while,

567
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: you know I like to make fun of academia, which

568
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: is ironic. I got a couple of degrees. My mom

569
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: has always stopped saying, you're so dumb, You're so smart. Yeah, Mom,

570
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not Mr Intellectual here, But again, got

571
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: a couple of degrees state schools. But the reality is

572
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: one thing I learned when I was at cal Poli

573
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Speaker 1: going to different business classes that translates to the real world.

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Speaker 1: My issue with academia is everything you learn in there,

575
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Speaker 1: it's nothing like that in the trenches of society. Once

576
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: you get into whatever you're doing for a living. None

577
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: of that ship translates, at least in my professions, at

578
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: least for most people I know. Everyone I know, it's like, yeah,

579
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: nothing carries over now maybe if you're an electrical engineer.

580
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: Obviously some accounting stuff. I'm not saying it's a tried

581
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: and true formula that nothing you learned in the classroom

582
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: translates to real life. But most things you learn in

583
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the classroom or you're not gonna take to the real world,

584
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Speaker 1: beside basic things that you learn like elementary school, like

585
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Speaker 1: reading and writing, and you can even argue writing now,

586
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and maybe they're not even teaching writing. I had to

587
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: learn cursive when I was a kid cursive. The only

588
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: thing I've ever used cursive for in twenty years is

589
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: to sign my name, And let's face it, most of

590
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: it now is with a finger on a electronical thing.

591
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Wherever you're at, it's like, who even cares? But not

592
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna go down that rabbit hole. But here's the thing

593
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Speaker 1: that I learned in school that I think translates very

594
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: well to the real world is supply and demand. It's

595
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: very basic and it translates to basically every industry. Good

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Speaker 1: example last year housing market interest rates low, low supply,

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00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: huge demand, prices go to historical numbers like that. That's

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: a perfect example of supply and demand in full you

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Speaker 1: know full go here right cars? Same thing last year,

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Speaker 1: no chips, no supply, the demand was high, a bunch

601
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: of people got a bunch of money, and prices of

602
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: cars use cars skyrocket. My mom sold a several year

603
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: old car back to the dealership for more money than

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Speaker 1: she purchased it for, which is unheard of. It one

605
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Speaker 1: of the first things you learned as a human being

606
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Speaker 1: from your parents or friends is like, know this, whenever

607
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: you buy a car, the moment you drive it off

608
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Speaker 1: the line and immediately diminishes in value. And it's true,

609
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: except for last year. You can sell it back for

610
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand dollars more than you buy it for.

611
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: That might change if we ever get some chips. But

612
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: who knows. I'm not some Uh that's form of relation

613
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: question that won't be answered here on the on the

614
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: show because I don't know. But the supply and demand

615
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: defensive linemen that have come into the NFL relative to

616
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman the last several years have not equalled

617
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: each other. The demand for both offensive enlignement offensive lineman

618
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: and defensive lineman is very high. There's a reason why

619
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Speaker 1: tackles and pass rushers always go in the top ten

620
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: in the draft when they're viewed as top prospects, rightfully so.

621
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Speaker 1: And occasionally a guard if he's viewed as a Hall

622
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: of Fame guy like Quinn and Williams, goes really high.

623
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: The top center usually goes somewhere between. Uh. Defensive tackles

624
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: over the last I would say decade have become fantastic

625
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: pass rushers, so they have also gone very high in

626
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Speaker 1: the draft. But if you look at a lot of

627
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Speaker 1: drafts recently, the amount of pass rushers coming in one

628
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: consistently have been very high. And these pass rushers, d

629
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: tackles and outside edge rushers aren't just really good prospect

630
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: They've never been faster. The amount of defensive lineman coming

631
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Speaker 1: into the NFL running like four sixes high four fives

632
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: is pretty stupid, Like it's like, who is creating these

633
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: human beings? But have you noticed that the amount of guards, centers,

634
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Speaker 1: and let's face it, even some of these tackles that

635
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: are drafted have not turned out to be that good.

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Speaker 1: And all you gotta do is turn on the television.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching your team, most teams go God, you know,

638
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: are our left tackles? Pretty good centers, Okay, we would

639
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: replace the other three offensive lineman. The majority of decent teams,

640
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: let alone the good ones, all have really good defensive lines.

641
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: So the amount of defensive lineman that have comeing toto

642
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: the the NFL. Let's just pick the last five years

643
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: at a high end, Like I'm talking, impact players have

644
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: not equaled the amount of offensive lineman coming in. And

645
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: just a lot of offensive linemen aren't playing into their

646
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: mid thirties, so even good ones eventually retire or get

647
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: washed out of the league. So you are seeing all

648
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: you gotta do is flip around the channels. Most quarterbacks

649
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: half the game are running for their life because their

650
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: offensive line can't block these defensive linemen. So the equilibrium

651
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: has just been thrown out of whack. And you watch

652
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: college football like I don't know if we'll ever get

653
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: back to the amount of good guards, centers, and tackles,

654
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: maybe tackles, but guards and centers coming in the league.

655
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: And we've never definitely never had, at least in my

656
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: adult life, more talented interior pass rushers, so the guards

657
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: and centers can't block these inside pass rushers, and these

658
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get thrown off and it makes you know them

659
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: look awful immediately. And then I would also say that

660
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: practice time in the NFL has obviously they've never practiced

661
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: less O t A s. And I've been going to

662
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: these practices before two cbas ago, and then I've gone

663
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: to practices this year. The O T A s are

664
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: a joke. Now, you could argue for the last decad

665
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: they've never been that important, and if you wanted to

666
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: ultimately argue they're not that necessary, I would somewhat hear that.

667
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: But in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, and even

668
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: the two thousands O T A practices, while not in pads,

669
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: you were building for the future that was going to

670
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: be training camp. But let's even throw that into the trash.

671
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: Training camp practices in the history of the sport encompass

672
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: double days and offense more than defense. Timing is such

673
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: a big deal, right if I'm five steps hitting you

674
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: before you're out of your break, whether it's an outroute,

675
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: whether it's a deep comeback, whether it's a slant and

676
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: go whatever it may be. It's a timing element the

677
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: passing game. So in football, they've never practiced lest in

678
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: college and definitely the pros, and even in training camp,

679
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: you have to wait a couple of days to get

680
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: on the pads, and then when pads come on, there

681
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: are no such thing as double days. There are only

682
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: a mandatory or maximum of four straight padded practices before

683
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: I have to give you a day off. And think

684
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: about this, most of these players, you're starting players now

685
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: at the majority of these teams are not playing in

686
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: training or training was preseason games. I almost called them

687
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: training game games. It's preseason games. So if I have

688
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: a preseason game, let's say on Saturday, I don't practice

689
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: on Friday, right, I might do a quote unquote walk

690
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: through or traveling or whatever, but there's no real practice

691
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: on Friday. And then on Saturday, if I'm a starter,

692
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not playing in that game either. So I didn't

693
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: practice on Friday, I don't play in the game on Saturday,

694
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: and then Sunday the day after and these are just

695
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: preseason games, is a mandatory day off, so we don't

696
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: practice that much as it is, and then I basically

697
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: get three straight days off. So the amount of practice

698
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: time has diminished so much in the last five, six,

699
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: seven years. I think that is leading to more and

700
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: more of this poor play at the quarterback position. Now,

701
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: some guys mahomes Uh Rogers when he's on right Josh

702
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: Allen now can overcome it, but the majority of guys cannot.

703
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: The supply and demand of your offensive lines and this

704
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: the difference too, between a starting offensive lineman and a

705
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: backup offensive lineman is dramatic. And here's the other thing

706
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: with the practice schedules being so just non existent, is

707
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that we're seeing so many injuries

708
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: on so many teams because of like the sparring factor

709
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: in fighting, there's a reason UFC fighters and boxers spa

710
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: to get ready for the fight. Well, you can't tell me.

711
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it was excessive. And I'm not even asking for

712
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: Bear Bryan or Bill Parcels practice, but the amount of

713
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: times that Bill Walsh, Mike Ditka, Bill Parcels the double

714
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: days their teams would have harden them for the season. Now,

715
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: and maybe there's another I listen, I'm not pretending to

716
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: be some athletic trainer to know all the details here,

717
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: but the independent constant training year round. You have to

718
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: wonder if that hurts guys breaking down because guard centers,

719
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: tackles are dropping like flies. Receivers get hurt all the time.

720
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: So you're asking these quarterbacks when they don't practice as much.

721
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Their offensive lineman can't block the defensive lineman. You're just

722
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: watching football left and right, and the timing is way off.

723
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: It is very, very poor football, and I think there

724
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: are some pretty clear reasons why. And I don't think

725
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna get any better anytime soon. And last, but

726
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: not least, before we dive into some positive things that

727
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: we saw on Sunday is Nick Saban and I text

728
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: with someone around the Alabama football program. I said, what's

729
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: going on? I actually text with a couple of people,

730
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: and one of the first things I was told is,

731
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have as many good players is

732
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: they used to have relative to their competition. And a

733
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: big reason why is Georgia takes a lot of guys

734
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: in recruiting that used to go to Alabama, so they

735
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: are no longer a lock to get the And I'm

736
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: when I say blue chip guy, there are a lot

737
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: of blue chip players in college football. I'm talking like

738
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: ten guys in Alabama if they wanted of the ten

739
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: used to be a lock to get like six or seven,

740
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: And now maybe they're only getting too because Georgia gets

741
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: five and m pays for a couple and another dude

742
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: goes to Texas. And that's a problem. Right. They used

743
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: to have the Deck's act where they were better. I'm

744
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: talking from an Alabama perspective, from a college football perspective,

745
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I think it's fine, it's enjoyable. Now they are still

746
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: the standards and they're still really good. But the other

747
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: reason that I was told that if you look at

748
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: Alabama historically over the Saban run, they were a well

749
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: built team with NFL players at every position, and they

750
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily like an NFL team where it was like

751
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback, we gotta ride the quarterback. We could run

752
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: the ball, We had really good wide receivers, we had

753
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: a fantastic defense. They were a team well these last

754
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: couple of years, and the last time they were quote

755
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: unquote a team Mac Jones. I don't want to call

756
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: him a game manager, but that team was well rounded.

757
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: If you watch Alabama now, they're just so bryce dependent.

758
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: They feel like the Ravens not where they're just dependent

759
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: on Bryce to run, like the Ravens are dependent on

760
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: Lamar to run, but basically Bryce to do absolutely everything

761
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: for them, and for the most part, he's been able

762
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: to do that. But they're margins now. They could have

763
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: lost several games last year. They easily could have lost

764
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: a couple of games this year, even beside the Tennessee game.

765
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: They feel much more predicated on the quarterback success and

766
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's sustainable. One Bryce is gonna go

767
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: pro after this year, so the chances that their next quarterback,

768
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't care how many stars and how good he

769
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: is and how much hype he has, is gonna be

770
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: as good as Bryce seems to be slim. The Nune

771
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: just based on the history, like it's hard to get

772
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: back to back players of that levels, but you know,

773
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: he might be the number one overall pick. The other

774
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: thing is n I L has really changed the game.

775
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Like Texas and m might not win that many games,

776
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: but they are still getting players that are used to

777
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: going to Alabama because they cut them big ass checks

778
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: and that's not gonna change as long as they're opening

779
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: their checkbooks. Texas, Texas and M Georgia. They are going

780
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: to steal players that used to go to Alabama. So

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00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Saban's run of winning is over, because

782
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: even look at him now, he has a team relative

783
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: to some of his best teams, which is probably average

784
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: and at worst he's gonna go ten in two. But

785
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to say they're just consistent

786
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: dominance of like they're gonna basically win the national Championship

787
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: or be in the National Championship every year. I wonder

788
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: if it's it's over. And looking back, why Saban snapped

789
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: on Jimbo for paying the players is because he kind

790
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: of knows it. He knows that this is not a

791
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: sustainable way to go. They can't pay the most. Uh.

792
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: They listen, when you cheat like a couple hundred thousand dollars,

793
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: there's a big difference of giving someone some big bag

794
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: of cash and having to guarantee them millions of dollars.

795
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: That's what Texas, Texas A and m USC. Some of

796
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: the money I've heard that the USC kids are getting

797
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: is outrageous, but of course they're in uf USC. They

798
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: have enormous money boosters and they're willing to kind of

799
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, use it through their businesses. It's l a

800
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: It's the second biggest media market in America. If if

801
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: New York had a football program like Ohio State, like

802
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Penn State, like Michigan in the heart of it, and

803
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: they cared about it, they would dominate. They would have

804
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: more money than everyone else. And that's gonna be a

805
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: huge point of difference for Lincoln Riley moving forward that

806
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: Saban just will not have. And this gets back to

807
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: his comments at Jimbo Fisher. It makes a lot of sense.

808
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: A couple of things just to fly through that I

809
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: haven't touched on yet. Somehow Minnesota is five and one,

810
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings are five and one. Not totally buying it,

811
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: but justin Jefferson's you know, one of the best players

812
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: in the league, Dalvin Cook's been healthy. They've won a

813
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: couple of crazy tight games. They basically knocked off Skyler

814
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Thompson and end up with Teddy Bridgewater, who's awful, and

815
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: their five and one, So you get the five and one.

816
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: All of a sudden you look up, you're gonna be

817
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: eight and three. So that they feel, unless Green Bay

818
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: makes a trade, where I might have been wrong, is

819
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division. Matt Ryan, I think save

820
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Frank Reich's job. Uh was not watching that game in

821
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: the first half because I thought the Jags were gonna win.

822
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: You look on ESPN dot com, I'm watching the Niners.

823
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Giants Ravens game, and just you just

824
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: think yourself, God, Indy's gonna lose again to Jacksonville, but

825
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: this time at home and watching the end of the game,

826
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan and made probably the best players made

827
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: in years the touchdown down the sidelined to Pierce. Uh.

828
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: He almost threw four hundred yards three touchdowns, a throwback

829
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: m v P type game from Mattie Ice. I do

830
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: think if if they lose the Jags and their two

831
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: three and one, with multiple losses of the Jags, I

832
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: think Tennessee coming up. I think Frank would have been

833
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: in major trouble. But you know, sometimes quarterback play and

834
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: clutch touchdowns can can save jobs. The Bengals, I was

835
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: watching some of that game. I mean, Jamar Chase is

836
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: just a fucking monster. Burrows such a stud. I told you,

837
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen like it just ain't gonna work. And it

838
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been that ugly. They have been writing games. They

839
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: could have won the Minnesota game, they could have won

840
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: the Bengal game, but they don't. They lose them. Now

841
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: they're two and four. Now they're playing the Cardinals, who

842
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: are just an atrocious operation. I mean, Robby Anderson goes

843
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: just full heel on the sideline, screaming at his wide

844
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: receiver coach, screaming at the head coach, gets booted to

845
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: the locker room. Vernon Davis, Mike Singletary, Uh, you know

846
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: the same exact thing. The differences. Vernon Davis a stud

847
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: and turned his career around, top five pick. This is

848
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson. Well, of course Mark's Brown gets injured. Who

849
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: trades for him? The Arizona Cardinals. The Arizona Cardinals are

850
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: like the modern day Al Davis Raiders. They do not

851
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: give a shit about character. You be like John Characters,

852
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: just Robbie Anderson like yelling at the wide receiver coach.

853
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Do you think a lot of teams are messing with

854
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: him when that's what you're doing. Look at the team

855
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: that ultimately acquired him. Two and four team headed nowhere

856
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: but the drain uh USC lost incredible win by Kyle Whittingham.

857
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: Who you know, I would say is underachieving a little

858
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: bit this year. There four and two. They had high

859
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: hopes that lost to Florida has not aged well as

860
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Florida has just been a disaster. But that listen, we

861
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: are not the sec out West, not even clothe. We

862
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: don't have what Tennessee has in the bag. We don't

863
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: have what Michigan has in the bag. You know, a

864
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: hundred plus thousand everyone in town gives a ship. That's

865
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: really cool. It's what I'm jealous about with college football.

866
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: The two places we have that are pretty special at

867
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: night are Salt Lake City in Eugene, Oregon, and think

868
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: about it, they're not pro towns when it comes to

869
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: pro football. And that place at Utah was rocking, went

870
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: for two to basically win it. Uh, it was sweet.

871
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: And USC I think Jordan Addison, I haven't seen what

872
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: his injury is, but he was on crutches. That's a

873
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: big loss and uh big win by Utah. And listen,

874
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: USC was never You know, they're probably a nine and three,

875
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: ten and two team. They were not some playoff team.

876
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: Their defense isn't good enough. And last but not least,

877
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get this guy credit Marcus Mariota has really

878
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: resurrected his career. Now. He is not some dynamic like

879
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: top fifteen quarterback, but he's better than a lot of

880
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: bridge quarterbacks like Marcus Mariota has nothing in common with

881
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: Mr Whiskey. Marcus Mariota is dramatically better than Mr Whiskey

882
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: and given him that Atlanta is not paying him much.

883
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is doing a fantastic job. I mean, he

884
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: basically just went Kyle Shanahan. He ran the ball down

885
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: the fort Roads and Mariotta was was brilliant. He was

886
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: awesome in the game, and now they're three and three. Um.

887
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a chance to win the division,

888
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: but who knows. I mean, Tom Brady quit at any moment.

889
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: I guess, last, but not least, the Rams Stafford nine

890
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: pick sixes since two thou excuse me, two tho nine

891
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: pick sixes? The next quarterback has four like Stafford. I

892
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: know they won against a god awful Panther team, but

893
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: nine pick sixes. I I the Rams lost their left tackle.

894
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: I I don't trust him at all. I think they're

895
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: gonna be hanging on for dear life as this season goes. Okay,

896
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: quick middlecoff mail bag. Let's bang had a couple of

897
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: a John Middle coffees Instagram. Fire in those d m

898
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: s and get your questioned on the show. Big fan

899
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: of your show. I'm also a Texas fan. I know

900
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: tough and wanted to get your thoughts on the following

901
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: Easterby was fired by the Texans the day and there

902
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: were many reports of him being a jerk in the

903
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: Texas front office. Any comments on those recent rumors, I

904
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: did not see. I just saw he was fired. I

905
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: didn't read any articles beside the articles that came out

906
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: previously of him doing weird things in the past, so

907
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I have not seen any of those. Usually when you

908
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: get fired over a bye week, I would imagine some

909
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: weird should happen. What's weird, though, is he's a big reason.

910
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: At least I thought Casario is in the building. Maybe

911
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Casarrio turned on him. I don't know. I don't have

912
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: I need some inside information. I need to do a

913
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: little digging before I can. Really I don't have any

914
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: information from what we already knew about the guy, like

915
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: a year ago preaching uh and we all kind of

916
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: made fun of him. But I don't know really anything

917
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: about this individu dual situation. But you know, I give

918
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: Cassario smart move get rid of this guy. Believe teams

919
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: have a super Bowl window depending on contract situations spanning

920
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: three or four years, in which the roster can uh

921
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: you have quality players before losing them in free agency.

922
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Of course there are anomalies like the Patriots. But do

923
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: you agree with this notion for the most part, yes,

924
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: But I also think good teams can use a core.

925
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are a good example of this.

926
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Their core has basically been for five years Mahomes, Kelsey,

927
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, and Tyreek. Now they also had the honey

928
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: Badger for a little bit. Uh, Frank Clark is probably

929
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: not as good as it used to be, but their

930
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: core guys are still really good. So as long as

931
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Kelsey is really good, Jones is really good, and obviously

932
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: Mahomes is really good, they can kind of put new

933
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: pieces around them. So to me, if your core is

934
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen digs and you know Milano employer, you

935
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: can kind of piece mail it around them. So I

936
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: I think it can be a little bit longer. If

937
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: your high end talent is your quarterback and receiver What

938
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Nicossario and what he's done for

939
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: the Texans from a front office standpoint? Would you mind

940
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: expanding on the Patriots way? What are your thoughts? I

941
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: would say that, like, to me, they've drafted pretty well

942
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: last year. I know a lot of people thought highly

943
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: of their draft. You just gotta start winning some games,

944
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: and to me, the number one thing they gotta get

945
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: figured out is a quarterback. You know, I've watched probably

946
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: six quarters of their games this year. Not the easiest

947
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: team to watch. To me, Davis Mills has been a

948
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: little hit or miss. So I think the question is

949
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna be if they're in a position to draft really high,

950
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, would they take Will Levis or Bryce Young

951
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: and just kind of pivot that way because they can

952
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: keep They got a bunch of picks right from the

953
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade, so they're gonna be able to reload.

954
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: But they got to find the quarterback. That division is

955
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: kind of wide open. I mean the Colts Matt Ry

956
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: is like seventy years old. Uh, the Titans are kind

957
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: of transition transitioning, and the Jacks still clearly have a

958
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: long way to go. So I would be excited just

959
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: from a standpoint of the divisions pretty wide open. I

960
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: think Seria has done a pretty good job. I gotta

961
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: find a coach too, like as love you Smith their

962
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: long term coach. Uh do you think Lafleur becomes a

963
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: head coach soon, Mike Laflour. If so, who is the

964
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: best fit and why is it the Steelers? Thanks? I

965
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: would say no. I mean, I don't think Mike lafloor

966
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: one his brothers really struggling right now, Matt who's the

967
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: coach of the Backers. Mike is the offensive coordinator for

968
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: the the Jets. Zach Wilson just doesn't look that good.

969
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: And to me, if he's gonna get interviews, it's gonna

970
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: because Zach Wilson is good and Zack Wilson just does

971
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: not look good now. In fairness, he's only a second

972
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: year player. He got injured, But like that is his

973
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: path to get a job, It's to make Zack Wilson

974
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: be a stud, and he's not close to being a stud.

975
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: Since Jerry Jones is Turnadie, I think his his carrier

976
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: as an NFL owner, his career as an NFL owners

977
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: On the back end, he even said he wants to

978
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: win another Super Bowl. With the Cowboys defense starting to

979
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: click and it's way better than it's ever been, would

980
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: it be smart for Jerry to pull in l A.

981
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Rams and try to get McCaffrey, to try to add

982
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: more firepower another slot receiver to the average offense might

983
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: help CD get open. I see all the upside and

984
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: getting him having a three headed backfield. Thoughts don't totally

985
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: hate it. I don't think McCaffrey. Now, I don't know,

986
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: as you're asking this question, I have to look the cap.

987
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Does the Cowboys have any space? But like we saw,

988
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: the Rams didn't have any space, and the Rams eate

989
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: the money or the Broncos ate the money. With von Miller,

990
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: would you pay more to get McCaffrey Like would to me?

991
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: McCaffrey's his worth on the open markets, like a third

992
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: round pick. I saw someone on Twitter said that Traeger

993
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: said on Fox that they're asking for two ones, Like

994
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: that's laughable, And I'm just saying, if that's what the

995
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: Carolina's fitterers telling people, like, get the funk out of here.

996
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: To me, you wouldn't even offer. I'd honestly say if

997
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: you gave a second round pick, they would have to

998
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: eat a lot of the money. To me, McCaffrey's probably

999
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: worth a third round pick. He's been injured a lot,

1000
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: his high end speed isn't quite there. Still a solid player,

1001
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: but he plays running back two ones. I mean Jalen

1002
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: Ramsey went for two months, Cleil mack went for two months.

1003
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey banged up, is not going for two months.

1004
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: I have never been a believer in the Jets until

1005
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas got hired. He continues to absolutely hit on

1006
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: so many picks and free agent signings from late rounders

1007
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: the first rounders. The guy is really good. Gotta give

1008
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: him his props. Saw It looks like he's instilling a

1009
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: great culture. Currently. Question is, despite out top the Jets schedule,

1010
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: is so they could actually make the playoffs this season.

1011
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: My prediction is yes, though the Jets will only go far.

1012
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: Is Zach Wilson will take them at some point. He's

1013
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to win them some games. I'd love for

1014
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: him to continue his growth. He's looking more poised for

1015
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: them to make a run. He's got to be better

1016
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: because right now they're winning despite of him. He's I

1017
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: think two weeks ago he through twenty passes this week,

1018
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: he through eighteen, no picks, not turning the ball over,

1019
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: throwing for a hundred yards, Like that's not sustainable against

1020
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: good teams. Like you're not beating the Bills with him

1021
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: throwing for a hundred yards. Now, he doesn't need a

1022
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: throwing for three hundred, but can you throw it for

1023
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: two forty? I don't know if he has that in

1024
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: them without throwing multiple interceptions. You know, the Patriots are

1025
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of humming now, is Zach? Is this Zach Wilson

1026
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Patriots? Is Zach Wilson gonna beat Bill Belichick?

1027
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: You know the Patriots are kind of coming now. The

1028
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins are in shambles with their quarterback situation, but your team,

1029
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: you're right. I talked about him earlier in the pod.

1030
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has done a fantastic job. They've hit on

1031
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: a ton of picks. But they're gonna go as far

1032
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: as his quarterback's gonna take him. Like, if the quarterback

1033
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: is good the rest of the year, they could win

1034
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: nine ten games. If the more and more he's got

1035
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: to make plays he can't for the bell, than they won't.

1036
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: I actually think they are like Ultimately, the Giants are

1037
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: just not gonna ask Daniel Jones to do anything. But

1038
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: the Giants don't have the talent the Jets have. The

1039
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: Jets have way more talent than the Giants, as they should, right,

1040
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: they had multiple first round picks the last couple of years,

1041
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: so like, of course they do. But I don't know, man,

1042
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: I I don't Dato Jones played a lot more football

1043
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: than Zack Wilson. Now Zack Wilson's got a better arm,

1044
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm fascinated to watch that little progression. Okay,

1045
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: last question from Ben. How many top quarterbacks in the

1046
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: NFL that bust Sam Donald would not have busted with

1047
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: better coaching or needed more time like Carson Palmer watching

1048
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes planned or a day ball, he seems improved,

1049
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: or Geno Smith he is better, not great, but serviceable.

1050
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: How does coaching in time help them? We'll think about

1051
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: this example, Like I said, with Herbert Mario, Anthony lin In's,

1052
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, Mac Jones, Saban Belichick, Jimmy drafted to Belichick,

1053
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Doesn't get any better for those guys, So

1054
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: like they've already maximized their ability. Think about Alex Smith,

1055
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: who when Alex, before he got hurt in Washington, had

1056
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: become like, you know, a top twelve quarterback. He was

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Speaker 1: never gonna be some top five guy, but you could

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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs every year with him as your

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. He was a joke with Mike Nolan and

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Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, a laughing stock. Everyone thought he sucked. Then

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Speaker 1: came Jim Harbaugh. Then they traded him to Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: and for about five six years everyone's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith got some flaws, but he's a damn solid quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But Mike Singletary, Mike Nolan, everyone laughed at him. I

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Speaker 1: think he is one of the best examples of coaching

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Speaker 1: because most guys do not have elite talent, right, Most

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Speaker 1: guys do not have Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: level physical talent. Most guys are let's face him to

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Speaker 1: a Baker, Uh Sam Donold, uh Danny Dimes like. Most

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Speaker 1: guys have NFL level talent, but not high end at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And Alex is a good example of that. Not a

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Speaker 1: great arm oh good athlete, but nothing special, tall but

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Speaker 1: not like super powerful and just needed to get with

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Speaker 1: the right people, and when he did, he became a

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Speaker 1: guy that you could win with, make the playoffs with.

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Speaker 1: Like to me ultimately, like I want Patrick Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but most people are never gonna find Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen, So if you can just get

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Hell, I make fun of Dak Prescott because

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Speaker 1: I don't like paying Dak Prescott forty million, But if

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Speaker 1: I was paying Dak Prescott twenty five million, I'd be

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Speaker 1: fine with it. I was paying Kirk Cousins, not forty

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Speaker 1: three million, but thirty. Like I like Derek Carr million.

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Speaker 1: Don't really love Derek card forty million dollars. You'd be like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's the going rate. Well, yeah, I don't really like

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Speaker 1: it because I can't like part of why Alex was valuables.

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Speaker 1: You never cost the high end and you could build

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Speaker 1: around him. So yeah, I think it's very, very valuable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think coaching for quarterbacks, you know, there

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Speaker 1: are only so many Brett Farves who just could probably

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Speaker 1: play for anybody right in their prime. Uh, And even

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve had Mike Holmgren and Marry Uchi and Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid I don't think about that. Uh so, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's very very important. Have a good week. Talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys soon Peace,