1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do a pig, big big, pull me away. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I do We'm pig big big, sing it again. I 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: do a pig, big big, I'm pulling away. I do 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: a pig big big, sing it again. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: I do a pig. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I do a pig big big, sing it again. 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: I do a big. 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: What is not? 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: What is good? 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 5: How you living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 5: is the big podcast was Shack where we always do 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 5: it big. There are certain people that I always believe 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: will always be aligned with Shaquille O'Neill. This one is 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 5: right at the top because he did it him damnself. 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: Shaq Can I give him a formal introduction from SoundCloud? 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 5: Big gettings to platinum plaques. From the age of seven, 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: he was filling notebooks from front to back, wrote it, 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 5: produced it, mixed it himself. The man has eleven self 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 5: released albums up on the shelf. This summer, hitting sixteen 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: cities on a North American tour New music, same energy. 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: His legions of fans at the door hit the whokallowns today. 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: It is independence, intention and bars. You can trust. Put 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 5: your motherfucking hands together for the one and only Russ. 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: Come on, man, bars. Well done, man, Thank you, thank you. 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know if you noticed, but I'm a 26 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: big fan of yours. 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: Thank you man. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know you lived here. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so. 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: How long you've been living here? O? 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: Twenty years old? Are you thirty two? 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 3: Shit? 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: I thought you was a kid. And I'm looking at 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: my researcher from Jersey. 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was born in Jersey. We moved when I 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: was a baby, and people from New Jersey still try 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: to just fucking claim me. He moved when I was 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: a baby, but doesn't matter like New Jersey people are like, Noah, 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: you're one of us, one of us. Yeah, so you 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: were born in New Jersey. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: Worn to raised northern New Jersey, Brick City. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Did you tell How did I not know that? 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? So twenty billion streams? 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: Wow? What it is now? 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: Shit? Crazy still going? 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: So it's twenty billion dreams? 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: Sounds yeah, it sounds right. 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: All right. So what song sparked your success? 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: It kind of came in stages. The first one that 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: like did real damage for me was a song called Goodbye, 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: which off camera we were talking about. You know you're 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: using civil war. She used Goodbye. It's a good one, 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: but Yeah, it was a song called Goodbye that was 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: the first one that got like one hundred thousand views 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: and listens, and then the two that kind of popped 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: off at the same time for me were losing control 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: and what they want? Those went crazy like twenty sixteen, 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: I think shock. 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: One of the things I love about Russa's story is 62 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 5: he is constantly creating. You're constantly making yeah, And that's 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 5: why I feel like as fans, like myself, we have 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 5: seen this constant evolution where there's never I felt like 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: been a time off. When you close your eyes and 66 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: you think about like the hardest part of the journey 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: visually what do you see? What room are you in? Like, 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 5: what what part are you And then for that person 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: to look at where you are now, what is that cenisation? 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: Like visually, where am I in my room? That's the 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: room I'm in. It's just the hardest moment is mental. 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: It was nothing that had to do with like industry stuff. 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: It was all like me versus me. That's the battle, 74 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: you know, is like as a as a musician, when 75 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: you're making the kind of music that I like to 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: make where it's like authentic and you know it's my 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: real life. So it's just wrestling with everything I'm talking about, 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's this is like my audio diary. So 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: the toughest part is going through the shit that is 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: making the music, you know. 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So a lot of independent artists when they get 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: big time, they look for the major deal. What made 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: you say, you know what, I must stay independent the 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: whole time. I'm to do it myself. 85 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. So in twenty after I did like, you know, 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: a song a week on SoundCloud for two and a 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: half years and eleven projects, I partnered with a major 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: label for three years, four years, but I kept my 89 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: entire back catalog. They didn't they didn't own it, so 90 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: they just we just split the money on like three 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: albums and then I just went back fully Indian twenty twenty. 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: It was like a very like rare situation to be 93 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: able to do that, and I bought myself out the 94 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: deal at the end, can I say how much? 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: I yeah? 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: No, yeah, okay, good one point five My manager gave 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: me to go. Yeah, But I bought myself out the 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: deal and I went back fully Indian. For me, it 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: just got to that point where I realized, like, you 100 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: guys aren't doing anything I can't do myself, so I 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: would rather just, you know, keep all the fruits of 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: the labor. It's I think artists don't realize that that 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: the label is not going to do anything that you 104 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: and your team aren't already doing. They're just there to 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: react to what y'all are doing. And so a lot 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: of artists get screwed because they show up and they 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: think that, like, the label's going to be on some right, 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: we'll take it from here. No, they're not. They're waiting 109 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: to see what y'all are doing, you know. So for 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: me it was like, well, shit, I'm already doing everything 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: and I don't need like y'all have a button that 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: you can push, which is just money. But I have money, 113 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: so I'll push the button and stop breaking y'all off. 114 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: We're seeing this in the NBA as well, a few 115 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: of the athletes are representing themselves, especially in the draft. 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: Smart Yeah. I just saw him talking about that. 117 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 5: He His whole thing was, He's like, why am I 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 5: giving you know, three percent or whatever to these people 119 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: when I feel like I could handle it. I was 120 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: going to see if if you had noticed that, and 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: obviously you had. 122 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Would you what's the what's the dynamics though? Like do 123 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: NBA teams and owners hate when a player doesn't have 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: an agent? Are they like this fucking Prima Donna? And 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: then they like are now kind of like let's stay 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: away from him? 127 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: Or I think they enjoy it because you know, as 128 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: your manager knows to be in that business. Yeah, you know, 129 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: one word can throw it off. One word you don't 130 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 4: know what you're looking at, can throw out the contract. 131 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: So I think they enjoy it. For example, remember. 132 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: When Ricky Oh, because they feel like. 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 4: Davis represent himself and everybody thought he had the biggest 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: deal ever. 135 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: It is you know he did he was remember that 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: as I. 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 4: No, it's it's if you win a super Bowl you 138 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: get this. So I think they owners and enjoy it. 139 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 5: It just happened in the NFL as well. T Higgins 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: just got a huge contract and then once the contract 141 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: details came out, everyone went, oh you got you got 142 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: written up a little bit different. So there is like 143 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: the concern about it, yeah, but also like the investing 144 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: in yourself aspect that you have done. I would love 145 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: to see that happen with. 146 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: But for like, if you're if you're an NBA player, 147 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: do you need the agent and the lawyer. Why can't 148 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: you just get a lawyer on hourly to read the contract? 149 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: That's a'sact. What do you think? Well, he's correct. I 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 4: mean that's what I That's what I ended up doing later. 151 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, my thing was I want some 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: money to speak the language that I'm telling him to speak. 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: This is what I want. Yeah, this is I'm not 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: taking the less who would? Now you go talk. 155 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: How you speak alien to the other alien? Just figure 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: it out and. 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: Then when and then when you give it to me. 158 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: I love you and I trust you, but let me 159 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: have this guy look at it. 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: That's what's just in case. 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: And so I've I've always had too. 162 00:07:59,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: You. 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: I like how you give artists information? Yeah, question, Like 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: you know, back in my day, you would sell albums 165 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: and you go platinum, You go go and you get 166 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: the status. Is it the same way with stremes? And 167 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: how many streams is platinum? No? 168 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, back then it was just physical, you know, 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: So it was just one to one. You sold one 170 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: album accounted as one album. Right now on an album 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: you need to do fifteen hundred streams for it to 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: count as one sale. Yea, which is just like an 173 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: arbitrary number that like who came up with that? Why 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: isn't it twelve hundreds? You know what I mean? 175 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Like, so you need to listen to my song. 176 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: Fifteen for a song, it's different for song, it's one 177 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty. So you just divide by like ten. So, 178 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: for example, you see a lot of artists like kind 179 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: of gaming gaming the system, which I'm like, all four. 180 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: But what I mean by that is, let's say you 181 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: have four songs out and they're all platinum, right, they're 182 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: all a million. Well, if you put all four of 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: those on an album, that album has now sold four 184 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. You see what I'm saying, because your four 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: singles are four million, but when you put them on 186 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: an album, you got to divide it by ten, and 187 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: so now this album has done four hundred thousand. But 188 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: really it's like did the album do four hundred thousand? 189 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: Did those four songs do that? But it makes it 190 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: look like the album is this like super successful. 191 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: So you said you said platinum, So a million streams 192 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: is platinum? No? 193 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: No, no, you need one hundred and fifty million streams 194 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: in the US. 195 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, goddamn, And. 196 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: It's US only. That's that's all. Oh yeah, because when 197 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: you're when you see people like, oh, I went platinum, 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: people don't understand like Riublea, which is the company that 199 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: certifies platinum, is just US. So you see a lot 200 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: of artists who just are like, man, I got two 201 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: hundred million streams, How am I not platinum? It's like 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: because one hundred million of them came from Malaysia, you 203 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like you have to get a 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million in US to. 205 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: Go Why don't Malaysians count? 206 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: They do for Malaysian certifications. So, like every country has 207 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: their own threshold for what quantifies as gold and plant, 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: so you can like, you know, go gold in Canada 209 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: with less or you know, platinum in France with just 210 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: doing ten thousand sales in France. It's all based off 211 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: of like population, and you know, it's crazy. That's why. 212 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: I Also when you see like so and so has 213 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: so sold whatever worldwide? No they haven't. There's no way 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: to determine that unless it's just straight up physical Like 215 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: if you've sold twenty million physical records, you can count 216 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: that up, but you can't count up like well because 217 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million streams in the US is platinum. 218 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: If they did one hundred and fifty million in the Philippines, 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: they're double platinum. No, the Philippines has a different thing. 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: So there's no way to know based off streams what 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: everyone's doing worldwide. That is just paid fucking tweets and shit. 222 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: How do you make money owning the streams, by owning 223 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: the music and just fucking catalog and volume, it all 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: adds up. So for me, like I got five hundred 225 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: songs out, I always tell people it's like, you don't 226 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: need one song to do one hundred million streams in 227 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: a month. You can have a hundred songs out and 228 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: they're each doing a million streams in a month. That's 229 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: a way like easier mountain to climb. So for me, 230 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: I just like one From an artistic standpoint, I just 231 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: like making songs and I like sharing them. And then 232 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: from a business standpoint, I'm like, it takes the pressure 233 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: off of each individual song because I don't need all 234 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: of y'all to go out there and be the biggest 235 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: shit in the world. I can have five hundred songs 236 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: that are getting a million streams a month, and that's 237 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: five hundred million streams a month. 238 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: You know. 239 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: Every time I see an interview with you, and I'm 240 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: experiencing it right now, I feel like you're like the 241 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: music industry translator, where you're like, hey. 242 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: Translating the alien language. 243 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 5: Do you do you enjoy both sides of it? 244 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: I do you enjoy both sides? Because I like knowing 245 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on with my shit, you know, 246 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: That's where it came from. It just like I don't 247 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: know everything. I just asked a lot of questions, and 248 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: it comes from the general like genuine curiosity of hey, 249 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: like I want to know what's went and how this 250 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: all works and what's going on with my shit. So 251 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: I'm just more informed for my own sake, you know. 252 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: And just like I like numbers, I like analytics. I 253 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: always was like sending my booking agent, like the one 254 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: who books the tours, Like when I was on SoundCloud, 255 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: I was sending her, here's my top ten cities, Like 256 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: book the tour in these ten cities, you know. I 257 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: just like I like numbers, I always did their finite 258 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: you know. 259 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 5: All right, big fellows, So our friends over at DraftKings 260 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: want us to bet on who's gonna win NBA Finals 261 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 5: MVP four teams left of course, Thunder, Timberwolves, Nicks, and Pacers. 262 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: I got the app up right now. It's crazy when 263 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 5: you look back. What it was before the beginning of 264 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: the playoffs. Shaye Gilchis Alexander was plus three hundred. Now 265 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,479 Speaker 5: this dude is minus one thirty the Thunder, the prohibitive 266 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: favorites to win it all. 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It 361 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: was like g Unit, Eminem, fifty Lloyd Banks. 362 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: Did you have the tank tops? 363 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: No? 364 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: But like my first rap I ever wrote was like 365 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm from Queens with baggy jeans and I was not 366 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: from Queens, but like fifty was the coolest person in 367 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: the world, you know what I mean. So it was 368 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: g Unit and then it was like Wayne, and then 369 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: it was Kanye, And I didn't get into jay z 370 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: U till I was older because jay Z's like content, 371 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: you have to be of a certain like maturity level, 372 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: I feel like to even grasp what he's saying. So 373 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: I didn't get into jay z ta I was like 374 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen. But yeah, high school was just all Wayne 375 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: because I was in high school six to twenty ten 376 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: and Wayne and six and seven was like just nuts. 377 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: He put out like seventy six songs in two thousand 378 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: and seven or some shit when he was just rapping 379 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: on everyone shit going crazy. But yeah, Wayne, j Cole, Nipsey, Drake, Kanye, 380 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: and yeah DMX, I love DMX, his cadence, his cadence, 381 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: like the pausing and the ramping. To me, his cadence 382 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: was the closest to Tupac. Like that's why I just 383 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: let like how he would deliver the bars. It was 384 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: like melodic in a sense because it would ramp up, 385 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was like it was like, 386 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just so cool to me. 387 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 5: Man, I can tell you love it, and and the 388 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 5: amount that you create shows that you love it. I'm 389 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 5: curious what percentage of music artists that we see today 390 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: do you think love making music or what percent of 391 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: artists do you think love getting paid and being famous? 392 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: I would say yeah. Honestly, the NBA is very similar. 393 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you know guys who would play for free? 394 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: You know me? 395 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, And you could tell here's the funny right, 396 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: not free, but just like you know, the funny thing 397 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: that I that I think is that the dudes in 398 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: the NBA who I thought played like they would play 399 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: for free, those are the ones who actually win the 400 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: rings and get the most money anyway. And so same 401 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: with like rap, the dudes who are rapping just to 402 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: get money are not going to get the most money. 403 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: It's like you have to do it because you love it, 404 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: then you get the most money as a result of 405 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: doing it because you love it that much. But I 406 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: think naturally and I get it rap music. It turned 407 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: like the barrier to entry got so low where anyone 408 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: could do it. So now everyone's like looking at it 409 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: as a come up, as a like, you know, get 410 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 3: rich quick thing, which dilutes the art, dilutes the value. 411 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: You know, bring gatekeepers back, you know what I mean? 412 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: Did you know that one of your songs for me 413 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: was a relationship saver? 414 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: I had no idea, and I would never guess, nor 415 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: would I have guessed that song. 416 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: I'm the type that I don't fight a block. 417 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: Nice to help me so when I want to, So. 418 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: When I want to come back, Yeah, a lot of 419 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: people come back by talking always in civil war. 420 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: That's so incredible. 421 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: And then do you say anything with it or do 422 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 5: you just say the. 423 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: Song because that's awesome. 424 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 4: No, No, because he says everything for me exactly. Let 425 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 4: me play it for you. He says everything for me. 426 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: It works every time my work life's I know you're 427 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: sitting over there, Laven and they go hello, and then 428 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: it goes. 429 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to text you anymore. I just want 430 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: to stop this. 431 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: Please and stop writing that bam. And then then I go, 432 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: when you're right, daddy, I love you, Daddy. 433 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: I wiss you too. 434 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: After after a long weekend in Miami or Vegas, Oh 435 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: you start a fighting, I'm going on a trip. 436 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: That is actually why I made that song for those scenarios. 437 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. 438 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: You know what's funny about that song. That was when 439 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: I was kind of in a place in my life 440 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: where the women in my life weren't like I wasn't 441 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: getting emotionally charged by them, like how I was in 442 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: the past where I can like make a lot of 443 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: music about women because I was going through something with them. 444 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: But I was like, I like making those kind of 445 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: like relationship problem songs. So I was like, how am 446 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: I gonna still make a song that feels like it's 447 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: a relationship problem song if I don't have any problems 448 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: with relationships right now? And so that song is actually 449 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: about me and myself, Oh it is. That's why I 450 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: called it civil War. Oh it was me talking to 451 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: myself like in my like it was me wrestling with 452 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: this past version of myself before fame and me feeling 453 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: like not having a good grasp on this successful life 454 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: and and like fighting with my younger self, Like, but 455 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: I knew if I like did it in that way, 456 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: it would be you know, a relationship. An when'd you 457 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 3: release that song twenty nineteen? 458 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 4: I've been rocking out ever since. I'm about I'm not 459 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 4: gonna take you the number. I'm just I'm about twenty 460 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: five and over with that song. I'll let you figure. 461 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: Out what off those streams going platinum? 462 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 5: Man, I got I got two follow ups on that one. 463 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: Shack doesn't like when to do this because Shaq likes 464 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 5: to think he's just a normal guy and not one 465 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: of the most famous, most successful men in the world. 466 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: What is it like seeing Shaq vibing out into your 467 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: music and what was your relationship with Shaq growing up? 468 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 5: Like were you a big basketball fan? 469 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? That was a huge bad I am a huge 470 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: basketball fan. Shaq was the most dominant player in the world. 471 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: Like it's not even close. It's like, I mean, yeah, 472 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm thirty two. So like in high school, you know, 473 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: in like seventh eighth grade, like that's Shack Kobe, Like 474 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: that was you know what I mean, But seeing him 475 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: listening to that is. 476 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: And then my other question is because Shaq. We we 477 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: had this discussion recently with Nil in college where we 478 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: were we wondered and worried would kids still be as 479 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 5: motivated if they didn't have to quote get it out 480 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: the Mud? And the way you're talking right there, you're like, man, 481 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 5: what happens when I'm so good writing songs about when 482 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm going through problems? But now I'm not going through 483 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 5: problems anymore? And is that just like a muscle you 484 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: work on to put yourself in that mindset? 485 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: It just forces you to dig deeper. You know. It's 486 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: like it's it was easy to like just get in 487 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: some shit with a girl and like getting some three 488 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: month thing and it ends bad and then you write 489 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: the song maybe that was a problem, but it's like, 490 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: you know, that was easy to just like curate a 491 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 3: problem in my life for the music, And when that 492 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: wasn't there anymore, it's like, oh, I got to dig 493 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: deeper to actually like get something of substance. 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: You know. 495 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: I think that's a lot of artists like challenges. Is 496 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: what happens when you run out of surface level shit 497 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: to talk about. Now what now you got to dig 498 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: beneath the surface. 499 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: And as an artist say I'm sticking to what I 500 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: do though that's not the trend right now. How do 501 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: you fight against that? Because, I mean, because the way 502 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: you flow is our persons both to flow. But you 503 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: got a lot of bullshit that gets to be sure. 504 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: So how do you say, Okay, you know what, in 505 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: order to keep the attention of this, how do you say, 506 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna change my flow and dumb it down for 507 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: the dummies? 508 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: I just like, I have a strong, strong sense of 509 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: like what I like, and I just I can't help 510 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: but go and make that, you know. 511 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: Thank you? 512 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, thank you for listening. 513 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: I'm telling you that I'm tired of that goddamn fan song. 514 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it no more? What's song 515 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: with them fans? I don't want to hear that ship? 516 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: No fucking more? 517 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: What's that song with the dance don't? 518 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. 519 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: Okay, he's talking about the dude bringing the fan out. 520 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: I did it. It was funny. It got a lot 521 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: of you unless I don't want to hear that fucking 522 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: song no more. 523 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: I don't even know what song I'm talking about, but 524 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: I agree yeah. 525 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: With them fan like you haven't saying like everybody's doing 526 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: the dance at. 527 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: The camera boots with them fans is yeah, it's not 528 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: on my f y P didn't make it, No, but 529 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: it's it's tough because you see stuff that's commercially working 530 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 3: and you're like, naturally, you know, your brain is like hmm, 531 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: maybe I should switch this. But it's like anytime I 532 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: go into the studio. I think it also helps that 533 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: it's just in my house and I don't have anyone 534 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: in there with me that I can't help, but just 535 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: make what I want to make, you know. 536 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: So you do all your own beats. 537 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most part. Yeah, logic, logic, logic yeah, 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: oh yeah, able to always look like Chinese to me, man. 539 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: Like everything because do you do you play music? Yeah? 540 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: So I don't play music like I steal ship. 541 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: Every producer does. 542 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I started with I started with the reason Okay, 543 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 4: it went to logic, Yeah, it went to fruity loops wow, 544 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: and then I want to able. 545 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: To So growing up I started on garage band and 546 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: my boy who I was, yeah, and my boy who 547 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: I was making beats with, he had fruity loops. This 548 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: is like six, so I would like go to his house, 549 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: he would use fruity loops, he'd come over to mind, 550 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: we'd use garage band. But then logic was just a 551 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: natural evolution of garage ban So that's why I just 552 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: stayed on logic. 553 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: The question from the General, this big break is sponsored 554 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: by our friends at the General, Shaq, why don't you 555 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 5: ask him the question? 556 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 4: You're all about self empowerment. Was there a specific time 557 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: of trouble where you had to tap into that self 558 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: empowerment to get through it? 559 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably when I canceled my tour for the first 560 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: time ever in twenty twenty two, because I had just 561 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 3: reached this point where like the weight of everything that 562 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 3: had changed in my life pre success up until that 563 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: point had all just like come crashing down, and I 564 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: finally like sat with the fact that, you know, I'm 565 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: taking care of my whole family. It's been years since 566 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: I felt like a son and since I felt like 567 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: a brother, because you know, you step into that role 568 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: of like taking care of everyone, you know. And when 569 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: I didn't give my I didn't give myself a second 570 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: to even feel that transition. And when I actually like 571 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: felt it, it was just too much because it was 572 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: seven years of shit to unpack and like deal with 573 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: and grieve, you know. And I think as men, like 574 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: we're just taught to get over it, you know, and uh, 575 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: that works for a while, but then it comes out 576 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: sideways at some point. And it's going to come out 577 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: sideways at the worst spot. 578 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: So yeahments oh. 579 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, why I love reading comments. Some of them are hilarious. 580 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: Ig real comments are incredible. If you ever want to 581 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: just die, I'll scroll for an hour on just ig 582 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: reels and it is the most outrageous commentary. 583 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: This episode of The Big Podcast with Shack is brought 584 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: to you by the General. 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Think wisely, drink wisely, Lunazul Tequila. 602 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 4: Your new album, Wild, Yeah, Well, what makes this different? 603 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: And when you're doing an album, you come up with 604 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: the bee first, or you come up with the song first. 605 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: So Wild for me is what makes it different is 606 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: just where I'm at in my life. You know, I 607 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: think my goal with every album is just to accurately 608 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: capture where I'm at on my journey at that point, 609 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: and where I'm at now is sort of just you know, 610 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: in the past, I've really resisted the unknown of life, 611 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: and I've always tried to micro manage everything in my 612 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: life so I could control the outcome, and it just 613 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: makes for like an exhausting experience and just so stressful 614 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: and so now on a spiritual level. I'm just trying 615 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: to get to this place where I'm just I'm actually 616 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: having faith. You know. I feel like so many people 617 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: talk about faith, but like, and I've talked about it 618 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: in past songs, but I never had it because I 619 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: would say I had faith, but then I wouldn't truly 620 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: let go and trust that things were going to work out. 621 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: I would micro manage my manager, I would micro manage 622 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: anything everyone because God forbid, I allow God to like 623 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: have a hand in the situation. You know. It's like 624 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: I didn't trust anyone but myself, including God. You know. 625 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: But speaking from experiences I'm studying psychology, know, I'm working 626 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: on being a mentor. That's not always a bad thing. 627 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. 628 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: It's not always a bad thing because nobody is going 629 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: to focus on you more than you. 630 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a balance and that's the that's 631 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: the tough thing. So that's what makes it different, is 632 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: just where I'm at and then coming up with the songs, 633 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: you know, for this album, it was like a really 634 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: different experience because I had just got done due with 635 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: my first movie that's coming out later this year. No, 636 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: I wish I want to do it I just want 637 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 3: to be the next like hit Man. I'm like me 638 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: and you come on, bro, let's do it, buddy cop movie. 639 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: But I got done doing my first movie and it 640 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: was such a like eye opening experience to be involved 641 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: with comunity that much. And I mean, I'm sure you 642 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: like have a strong sense of community from playing sports, 643 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 3: like you were always with a team, you know. But 644 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: for me, in the way I make music, my experience 645 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: has been so insular and isolated, and it's just been 646 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: me and getting on a movie set and you're with 647 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: these people five days a week, thirteen hours every day. 648 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: I didn't realize like how much that was missing in 649 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: my music making because that was so fun. It was 650 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: more fun than I had making music because you're doing 651 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: all this shit together like all one common goal and 652 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: there's all these people trying to get to this one thing. 653 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: And so coming off the movie, I was like, man, 654 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: how do I recreate that in my music life? So 655 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: I reached out to these two like just up and 656 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: coming like unknown producer songwriters in Australia. I just found 657 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: them on the internet, Jake and Kirie. Incredible, Yeah, just 658 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: like incredible, like you know, a thousand follower type people 659 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: who just just are fire, and I reached out and 660 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: we just made the whole album together. So like whether 661 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: it was me sending beats or them sending beats or 662 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: me doing an and then then picking up that melody 663 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: and be like, oh what if it went like truly 664 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: making shit together. It was just the most fun I've 665 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: had like making music, so as far to the dance 666 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: to your second question, if it beats or songs kind 667 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: of depends. Sometimes I'll be like, man, I have a 668 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: song I need to make, Like Civil War was a 669 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: song idea. It was like that concept and then the 670 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: music came, you know. But I would say majority of 671 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: the time, the music dictates what I'm about to write about. 672 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 5: I've never really interviewed a musician before, so I have 673 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: two dumb questions. 674 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: There are no more questions. 675 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 5: The exclamation point instead of the eye in Wild. 676 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I usually hate shit like that. I was so 677 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: close to me this is the lamest shit ever to do. 678 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: But the reason why I did it, honestly, it was 679 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: an accident, so like it was supposed to be wild 680 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: and then an exclamation point. And I did this interview 681 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: with like Rolling Stone, and they put out the article 682 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: and they spelled it the way you see it, and 683 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I don't know that kind of works. 684 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: And the reason why I had an exclamation point was 685 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: because I'm shifting from sort of like like I was saying, 686 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: resisting the unknown and being like pessimistic about the future 687 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: and like, what's going to happen if I'm not micromanaging 688 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: every situation and just being so scared of the unknown 689 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: and what could happen and all this shit. Shifting from 690 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: that to optimistically going into the unknown and being excited 691 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: to experience what life still has in store for me, 692 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: knowing that there's gonna be some more fucked up shit 693 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: that happens just inherently, you know. But like my whole 694 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: existence up until now has been spent trying to run 695 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: around the proverbial boat and plug all the holes so 696 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: that no leak ever happens. And so when when fucked 697 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: up shit would happened in my life, it like threatened 698 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: my sense of identity and my sense of like power, 699 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: because I'm like, how is fucked up shit happening in 700 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: my life? Like what that's impossible? I'm successful and I 701 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: have money, and I run shit like things shouldn't be 702 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: sucking up, and now I'm excited to enter into the 703 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: unknown because i know it's going to be like really 704 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: great moments and bad moments, but I know I'm gonna 705 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 3: be okay. So that's like the exclamation point is trying 706 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: to psychologically trick myself into being excited about going into 707 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: life unknown. 708 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: And then my my other dumb question is I was 709 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 5: driving through Brooklyn and I'm listening to the to the 710 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 5: songs that are on Spotify, the new album, and I 711 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 5: really liked April seventh, Thank You. Then I was like, 712 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 5: why is it called April seventh? 713 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: It was that my girl's birthday? 714 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 4: One? 715 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: Oh oh points Yeah that I mean when that had. 716 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 5: When when she hears what the name of the song is, 717 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: I mean, is it You're just the King of the Earth. 718 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, for like four minutes, Nah, she was, she loves 719 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: that song. 720 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: If you ever need any girl of advice, good or. 721 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: Bad, heavy on the bad, I'm your guy. 722 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: Ever ever get in the jam, I'm the guy. 723 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 5: Actually, if you have any recent jams you've been in 724 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 5: and you need Shack's advice, he is here to help. 725 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful, No, I've been jam free for years now. 726 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 4: Thank God. 727 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: It's good That's the thing I don't miss about being 728 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: single is just it's like it's it's too much. Is 729 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: too much, It's too it's like too many headaches. It's 730 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 3: like playing whack them all with headaches. It's like as 731 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: soon as you like whack, like this one's okay, this 732 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: one's okay, and then it's like it's like a fuck, 733 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's too much good point. 734 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 3: It's tough to good points. How does he he blocks 735 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: them and in. 736 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 5: Civil war block. 737 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 4: Them then when I want to one to come back. 738 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: So you're doing the headline tour with Big Sean, yeah, 739 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: and Sabrina chlod on it. 740 00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 741 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: So I've always wanted to ask this, when you do 742 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 4: a tour, how do you not go ahead and say 743 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: I'm a dope with some last. 744 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: Like that's what I mean, that's what this is. Like 745 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: I'm headlining it, so I am I am going last? 746 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 747 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 3: But I mean it's it's a tour that you sort 748 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: of like present to these other artists like, Hey, I'm 749 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: going on tour, I'd love for you to come with me. 750 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: I love Big Sean too. I think he's hella underrated. 751 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: So and I'm honored that he would be down to 752 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 3: like come and support my tour because I know from 753 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: like a name recognition and what he's done in the game. 754 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, he's a huge fucking artist. So 755 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: I just think Package sixteen. Yeah, starting to win July eighth. 756 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: And I hate touring. You know, I love doing shows, 757 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: but I hate touring. So this is sixteen is a 758 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: lot for me. Nowadays, you fly, you take the bus, fly. 759 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: Can't do the bus anymore of it? No, no, oh 760 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 3: fuck no. I did a year of where it was 761 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: nothing but private jets, spent like two million. I was like, 762 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: I'm never doing this again. It's the dummish ship ever. 763 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: But you can write it off, buddy. 764 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: Some of it. It's not a one to one ratio, 765 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: oh wonder one. 766 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 9: Yes, trust me, brother, I don't think so. 767 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: This is one of those bad advice things. This is 768 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: how to get in a jam. 769 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 4: I will give you a guy, my guy's number. 770 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 3: And beautiful. I'm open to exploring that. 771 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you read comments, do they get to you? 772 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 3: What gets to me about the comments? The negative ones? 773 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 4: What are you reading it? 774 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: Uh? It's probably some sick fucking like like I don't 775 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: even know I did you know what it is. I 776 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: read them because I'm like looking for the bad, like 777 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: and then like, let's unpack that, shall we? Is this 778 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: the doctor O'Neill segment? Yes, okay, yeah, why is that? 779 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: I think? 780 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: Because I want to write a dissertation on comment. 781 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: I think I want I want validation, like there's that 782 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: element of course wars, but like been working on that. 783 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: But then I read the comments, I see the negative ones, 784 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: and it naturally bothers you because it's also this disgusting 785 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 3: need to be understood by the entire human race. And 786 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 3: how dare you misunderstand me? You know? But my mentor 787 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: gave me a good piece of advice, which is when 788 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 3: you read a negative comment, the first thing you should 789 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: ask is it true? If it's not, like, that's what 790 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 3: I do now. If it's not. 791 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 4: True, good mentor keep him. 792 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 3: It completely loses its weight. Now. If it's true, then 793 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: there might actually be a lesson in there, Like you 794 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: know what, Yeah, it's not bad, that's good commentary. 795 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 4: As your other mentor do tell nobody should never influence 796 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 4: to somebody. You see this, You see this glove right here? Yeah, 797 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 4: one of the rubies is worth how much a lot? 798 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 799 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: Over two made right right, one person canna say I 800 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 4: don't like that ruby you should put sometimes so so 801 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: why why if this person is unvalidated, You're not You're 802 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 4: not a fucking jeweler and work for sotherby'st That's what 803 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So first you have to see who you're 804 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 4: talking to. 805 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so true. 806 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: So the first thing you do, who the fuck is 807 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 4: this guy? You've only got two thousand followers. I'm not 808 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: fucking paying attention to you. Like we waste time and 809 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 4: we waste brain cells trying to be validated from nobody's 810 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 4: I want to be validated by nobody. I want to 811 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 4: be validated by somebody, and there's somebody that that validates 812 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: you or is already somebody in your life, Dad, Rather 813 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: manage your boys like me if it ain't part of 814 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 4: my panel. 815 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: I don't even what you say. You know what I'm saying, 816 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: like it's real. 817 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: It's only it's only a few people that are bigger 818 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 4: than me, status wised. Like there's somebody from a big 819 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: jewelry things that maybe you should have moved a ruby 820 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: to the right now now, this company that they're in 821 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 4: gyms and diamonds and all that shit. Maybe you take 822 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 4: that to consideration, but you My advice to you, my 823 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 4: young brothers, don't read that shit. Yeah, successful, you're doing 824 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 4: it your way. Continue to do it your way, and 825 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: the day you stop caring is the day you're going 826 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 4: to brow up even more. 827 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure you're right, man. You know what I 828 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: just realized as you were saying that. You know what 829 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 3: I think it is too that I didn't realize is 830 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: being a musician is like if your entire career depends 831 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 3: on jersey sales. Because as like, as an athlete, everyone 832 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: could hate you, but if you average twenty five, ten 833 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: and six, like, it doesn't matter, you know what I mean? Now, 834 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 3: what if you getting a contract next year depending on 835 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 3: your jersey sales? Jersey sales is how much do we 836 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: like you? You know? And so for musicians like it, 837 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: my song's doing well depends on if the audience likes you. 838 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 3: That's how this whole shit works. So I think naturally 839 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 3: that's why artists are more sensitive and care more about 840 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: people liking us, because that is literally what our business 841 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: relies on is public opinion. So it's fucked. It's like 842 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 3: as much as we can say, oh, it doesn't matter 843 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 3: what the public thing. Yeah it does, Yeah, it does. Yeah, 844 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 3: because guess what, as soon as you've seen it with art, 845 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 3: as soon as the public says. 846 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to have to disago say public, it's this 847 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 4: this public right here. We don't have time to comment. 848 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 4: We work. 849 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, Any motherfucking I. 850 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: Got time to write more than five words, and job, bro, 851 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 4: any motherfucking I write a whole paragraph. I don't have 852 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: a job. 853 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 3: And I listened to you again. 854 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: I'll take you to listen to it. Maybe you should 855 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 4: put more snap on the snare like I'll give it, 856 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 4: but I'm never gonna let it get to me. Yeah. No, 857 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: I had to learn how to because we we all 858 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 4: go through the same thing. I have to learn how 859 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 4: to do break it down and say, it's only five 860 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 4: things that can stress me out. Now, only give a 861 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 4: fuck about five things, mother, kids, organization, my money. It's 862 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 4: all I get about about. Nothing else. Oh, he's shocked 863 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 4: this dope, don't don't bother me. And once I got 864 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 4: to that place, and I actually got that place from 865 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 4: watching the movie. I don't know if you saw the movie. 866 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 4: The fan Robert de Niro, Wesley snaps, so Robert de 867 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 4: Niro kidnaps. Wessey snaps because he's a famous baseball player, 868 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 4: not to harm him. So he gets him there eating 869 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 4: dinner and he think, man, your fucking RBI is high, 870 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 4: you hit home runs, you're the best baseball player. Ever, 871 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: how do you do it? And Wessey says, I don't care. 872 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: Now Robert gets fucking mad. Fuck you mean you don't care? 873 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 4: He said, I don't care. Once I started doing that 874 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 4: championships business. 875 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 3: This was a long time. 876 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 4: It was a long time ago, and I was like, 877 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: you know what, because you're right, Like I was getting 878 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 4: all the criticism, but I still got the highest paid contract. 879 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 4: I'm still doing that. So obviously these people the people 880 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: that we need to like us to care about, they 881 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: care all these other people. I didn't even listen to 882 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 4: him once I stopped caring. 883 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, could you tell when you were in the league 884 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 3: the players who care too much about the opinion and 885 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: how it affected. 886 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 4: Time all the time, Like when you when you care, Yeah, 887 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 4: I can see it in the eyes. And like we 888 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: had a couple of Game sevens last night. Yeah, like 889 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 4: people didn't step up. 890 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,479 Speaker 3: And you could tell what that I already knew they. 891 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 4: Wasn't gonna step up because it's the topic of conversation. Damn, 892 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 4: Like is he like if you have the I don't 893 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 4: care attitude, Yeah, you're gonna take thirty shots and I. 894 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 3: Fucking ate right right, I don't give a. 895 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 4: Fuck what you said. Okay about my last five game seventh, 896 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 4: I played like shit, but this time yeah, but I 897 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 4: could tell, Like when he was playing, I could tell 898 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: like he can't, like he cares what people say, Like 899 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 4: that's fame when you still make that money, but you 900 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 4: care people say, you're just adding to your narrative. 901 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 3: So I feel like I can see it when I'm 902 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: like watching the game up close, like when I go 903 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 3: to the game, I can see the body like you 904 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: could feel it. Players who are like, oh, you're thinking 905 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: too much. 906 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to teach my guy Adams top care 907 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 4: because he's really fucking good and like he's next in line, 908 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 4: and once he' stop caring, he's gonna be the fucking 909 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 4: man because he yeah, like everybody has flow, but he 910 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: has to fucking overflow right at him. 911 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 3: You know who Just random side note, when I watch basketball, 912 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: you know who plays to me like they're playing at 913 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: the y m c A. And I love it. Lamello. 914 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he does. 915 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 3: LaMelo plays like you're at La Fitness. I'm like, bro, 916 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: this dude's awesome, like off rip what they're winning Like 917 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 3: that dude is fucking awesome. Plays like nobody's watching. It's crazy. 918 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 4: Any artists that you ever wanted to work with and 919 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 4: you were a fan of, but then when you reach 920 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 4: out they were a dick? 921 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, surprisingly No, There's just been artists 922 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 3: like I've reached out to and it just hasn't happened. 923 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 3: But no, I've never I've never had bad experiences with artists, 924 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,959 Speaker 3: I think because I also don't reach out that much. 925 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 4: You know, are you familiar with my discography? 926 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 9: Uh? 927 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: Vaguely? I know you have. 928 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 4: I think I have the most yeah, non rapper discography ever. 929 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: I think you're also there's an argument to be had 930 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 3: that the best basketball player rapper. I mean, come on, right, 931 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 3: who are the options? 932 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 4: Well, they say dag Man and all these other guys. 933 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 3: Didn't you have ship with Biggie? Yeah? So I mean 934 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 3: that kind of that way. Biggie you have a platinum album. Yes, No, 935 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be letting people say Ship were platinum what 936 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: you were when you had to actually pat them gold 937 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: and would that's awesome? 938 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 939 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 3: What deserves? 940 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: What und thousand? But I like to so, you know what, 941 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 4: we all have influences. So growing up, I used to 942 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 4: play ball and do albums. So when I did the 943 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 4: ar Senior Whole Show, I wanted to come into the 944 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 4: game different. You know, let me let me wrap on 945 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 4: my favorite rapper, so Foo sniggers at the time. I 946 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 4: reached out to them. We did a song What's Up, Doc? 947 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 4: And then after I performed, because I used to perform 948 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 4: in the mirror like, I was like I knew all 949 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: the fucking move Like I'm like, I'm in my mind 950 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 4: of a rapper. 951 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, wait, what are the rapper moves? 952 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: We got a little you know, you know back then 953 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: there was the shoulder in the in and out like 954 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 4: so you know, like you said you were from Queens. 955 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 4: I was a fucking rapper. I was I was big Daddy, 956 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: I was ll I was buddy. So it came natural 957 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 4: to me. So when I got on Our Senior Has 958 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 4: Show and did that performance, my agent called me next. 959 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 4: They said, man, you're not gonna believe us. So what 960 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 4: he said, jo, I want to give you ten million 961 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 4: for three albums. 962 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: Oh ship. I had to fucking take it, Like that's 963 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 964 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: I had to take it, and plus and plus I 965 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 4: hold fucking most of them like I had a fucking 966 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,959 Speaker 4: bird Man dial before that, you know what I'm saying. 967 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 4: So when I came to the realization, not a fucking rapper, 968 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 4: So I went home fucking thinking and then I said, okay, 969 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 4: go back to them and said I will only do 970 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 4: it if I could wrap my favorite rappers and they agreed. 971 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 4: So Biggie it's hard, Fat Joe, big pun, Michael Jackson 972 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 4: quick like this. Yeah. 973 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 5: So wait, how did the Michael Jackson one go? 974 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 4: Oh? That one went platinum too? 975 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 3: He fire. 976 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 5: For vocals? How did it go down? 977 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 4: No? No, he called me to his house and did it. 978 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 4: This motherfucker had five hundred tracks. Damn yes, five hundred 979 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 4: track yeah, like mother, like, where's the whole tractor? 980 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 3: Just? 981 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 4: Oh, five hundred tracks? My thing? 982 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 3: Damn that's a mixing nightmare. 983 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 4: It is it is. But no, So I wanted. 984 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 3: To ask you a question, like I've seen clips of you, 985 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 3: like in practice and like obviously the MJ like All 986 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 3: Star game when you're like tween tween spin, Like did 987 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 3: you like back then was there just less green light 988 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 3: to fuck around as a big man? Or like could 989 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 3: you have done would you have been shooting threes and 990 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 3: trembling if you had the green light? What you had 991 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 3: the green light? 992 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 4: I had the green light, but I had to get 993 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 4: to what's going to be successful right right? Like I 994 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: could have did. 995 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 3: All but because I've watched like older you. 996 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 4: Know, closer to the basket. 997 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, making you quit that's efficient. 998 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 4: And then they changed the rules for me, like that 999 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 4: guy's doubling triplets. I ain't really have time to do 1000 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 4: all that. 1001 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, because I've watched like you know, like the 1002 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaways and shit talk about how like all that 1003 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: fancy dribbling shit like they were saying back then, you 1004 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 3: weren't allowed to do shit like it was, but like 1005 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 3: all of them could do that, like Isaiah could do it, 1006 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway, but that was like playground ship and people 1007 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: didn't have the green light to just just dance with 1008 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 3: you at the fucking three point line for ten seconds. 1009 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 5: Our next question sponsored by ZIP Recruiters, Smartest way to 1010 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 5: hire looking for the next ultimate teammate Russ, who has 1011 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 5: been your ultimate teammate in your career? To help make 1012 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 5: it what it is. 1013 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 3: Oh man, my uh, it's it's two fold. It's my 1014 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 3: manager Milan and my my best friends Aince I was 1015 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 3: twelve Bungis who like really was just the master mind 1016 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: with this shit that we did. Started in his basement 1017 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 3: just making songs and got to a point where, you know, 1018 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 3: God on Milan's radar, and then we just built it 1019 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 3: from the ground up. 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I could dumb step it out 1065 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 4: play ups. 1066 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 3: So you do what you never heard of? 1067 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 4: DJ Diesel. 1068 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 3: I know you DJ, but you Oh you're gonna make 1069 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 3: a DJ remix thing? Oh ship? Do you crowdsurs? 1070 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: No? 1071 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 3: But I have that is yeah. I can imagine. Oh 1072 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 3: you wash with them? Yes, well that's safe. See like 1073 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: I can because it's like up to his waist. He 1074 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: can still survey this scene. 1075 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 4: Trust me, it's not safe. I go out to the 1076 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 4: thirty thousands coming to have to hold them people out. 1077 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 3: That probably looks nice. 1078 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 5: Was there ever one that actually made you nervous? 1079 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 4: Yes? Because one time I had a little girl that's 1080 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 4: similar to my work wife size, and she was just 1081 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,479 Speaker 4: hugging me, but everybody was coming and she fucking fell. 1082 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 4: Oh now so now she's on the ground and step 1083 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 4: on So now I gotta get violet. Oh fuck, you 1084 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because you're telling people to move 1085 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 4: back like they. 1086 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 3: See those elbows. 1087 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 4: Now I gottacking throw a couple of bows, you know. 1088 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 4: So I had a I had an incident in Germany 1089 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 4: where the girl got messed up and I had to 1090 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,240 Speaker 4: take her to the house his shoes. 1091 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 5: Okay, could you imagine being like the biggest Shack fan 1092 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 5: being like I'm gonna go masch with Shack and then 1093 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 5: not seeing the girl and just catching an elbow to 1094 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 5: the face. 1095 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 3: To write a passage though catch catch an elbow form? 1096 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 5: All right, hell about this, I'm going to do, doctor O'Neill. 1097 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to fire up cheat GPT RUSS. It is 1098 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 5: a chat GPT that I have turned into creating situations 1099 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 5: that Shack has to talk his way out of. But 1100 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 5: doctor O'Neill, right now, you are going to be doctor Russ. 1101 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 5: This comes from Johnny in Louisville, Kentucky. 1102 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: Quote. 1103 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 5: A couple of years back, I independently published my best 1104 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 5: composition so far on YouTube. Recently, I discovered that someone 1105 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 5: published my composition under their own name, and now they've 1106 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 5: placed a copyright claim on my old YouTube video. I 1107 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 5: also discovered that the stolen audio is now available on 1108 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 5: all music major music streaming platforms and they're collecting one 1109 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 5: hundred percent of the revenue from it. Am I at 1110 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 5: a loss on what? I'm at a loss on what 1111 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 5: to do if you were me, what would you do 1112 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 5: doctor O'Neill. 1113 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 4: Well, doctor O'Neill is always honest with his patients. I 1114 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 4: am not a expert in this, but let me call 1115 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 4: my friend doctor Russ. 1116 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 3: Hold on. 1117 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 4: Usually when I call them, the yeah, put me on 1118 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 4: thereswering machine. Hold on, doctor Russe's you should be calling. 1119 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 4: His manager always plays a song from me. 1120 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 3: Hold on. 1121 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, doctor Russ. You heard the question. You 1122 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 4: heard the question. 1123 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 3: You need to get a lawyer immediately, because that's who's 1124 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 3: going to help you. You can send countless emails to 1125 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 3: YouTube and whoever the distributor, could you know, you find 1126 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 3: out who distributed the stolen audio and you can send 1127 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 3: You could try sending them emails. That should be the 1128 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 3: first course of action, with proof that it's yours and 1129 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: you upload it first. But then you've got to get 1130 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 3: a lawyer, you know, get a cheap hourly lawyer. It's 1131 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 3: unfortunate that kind of shit happens too often. 1132 00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 4: Does Yeah? 1133 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I've went to chat cheat GPT. 1134 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 4: I just like because they'd be giving me the craziest looks. 1135 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 5: All right, this is so what I want to happen 1136 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 5: is I want Russ to try and talk his way 1137 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 5: out of it first, and then Jack, you can show 1138 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 5: your skills. All right. This one is called the Surprise Playlist. 1139 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 5: Shaquilla is driving his girl plugs in the Aus and 1140 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 5: sees a Spotify playlist titled Late Nights with Tea and 1141 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 5: all the songs are slow jams. She turns and asks, 1142 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 5: who is Tea? Russ, I'll let you have a crack 1143 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 5: at this one first. 1144 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 3: Easy, uh, not that I've been in this situation, I 1145 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 3: would say t is my boy's girlfriend, and he sent 1146 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: me the playlist, and so now we're sharing the playlist, 1147 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 3: and it's a playlist his girl, that him and his 1148 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 3: girl made. He just shared it with me, so I 1149 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 3: have access to the place list. What you mean, stop 1150 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 3: being nuts? Okay, that's a good one, gas Light. 1151 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 4: That's a good one. But the correct answer is when 1152 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 4: you're not here, I'm lonely. So I sit and I 1153 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 4: sip tea, oh thinking about you. And there I'm lonely 1154 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 4: thinking about you. So at late night, I'm sipping tea. 1155 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 4: And the reason why the songs are the way they 1156 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 4: are because if I was an artist, this is what 1157 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 4: I was saying to you. 1158 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you want to know what you want 1159 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 3: to know? 1160 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 5: What cheat? GPT guest, cheat GPT guest. Your answer, Shack, 1161 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 5: It thought you were going to say, that's for my 1162 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: Tuesday night massage appointments. T is for Tuesday. 1163 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 4: One more, one more? Okay. 1164 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 5: The credit card flowers incident. A charge pops up on 1165 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 5: Shack's credit card. Let's see, let's say checks. Shacks credit 1166 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 5: card bill is on the table and for some reason, 1167 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 5: and it says two hundred and fourteen dollars at a 1168 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 5: flower shop. But his girl did not get flowers, and 1169 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 5: she picks up and says, so, who got this bouquet? Russ, 1170 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 5: What would you say? 1171 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 3: Fraud? I'm calling my business managers immediately getting a new 1172 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 3: card sent clearly fraud. Prove that it's not. 1173 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 4: I got one even better. I live in Atlanta. I 1174 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 4: was riding up one day on Peachtree and I saw 1175 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 4: some kids. They went up to this old lady. They 1176 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 4: fucking just took her flowers, and they stopped sucking the 1177 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 4: flowers out. So I went to the flower shop and 1178 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 4: brought some flowers, and I brought them back to the lady, 1179 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 4: and I gave her two hundred dollars. I say, have 1180 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: a wonderful day, ma'am. 1181 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about his answers. His answers are 1182 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 3: so good because they actually make him be an even 1183 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 3: better guy. Like my answers are just like your fucking nuts, 1184 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 3: leave me alone. These are like no, no, no, no, you 1185 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 3: have me fucked up. Incredible, you're damn right, you're damn. 1186 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. One more last one. 1187 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 5: Okay. This is called the voice memo. What's it's the 1188 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 5: most difficult one? Shack leaves his phone on speaker while 1189 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 5: stepping away, and a voice memo auto plays from someone 1190 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 5: named Keisha. She's laughing and says, quote, you better not 1191 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 5: delete this big sexy. That little BackRub was everything, girl. 1192 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 5: Here's it. Ross is the toughest one yet. How you 1193 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 5: talking yourself out of this one. 1194 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 4: I'll go first, Yeah, okay, go ahead, go ahead. 1195 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 3: I think it's in my best interest to have something 1196 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 3: for that because what my girl? 1197 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 4: Now? 1198 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 3: I read nothing? 1199 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 4: Say it again. 1200 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 5: Shack leaves his phone. A voice memo auto plays from 1201 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 5: someone named Keisha. She's laughing and says, you better not 1202 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 5: delete this big sexy. That little BackRub was everything. 1203 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 4: You want the corner answer. You saw the real You 1204 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 4: want the real answer, both the corner answers. You saw 1205 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 4: me and russ On do the podcast right, and you 1206 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 4: saw what I said to him at a minute mark 1207 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 4: of thirteen to six teen seconds, send me a song. 1208 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna do it. This is just one of his 1209 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 4: girls sending the sample of the song I wanted to do. 1210 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna get it and I'm gonna chop it 1211 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 4: up first, and then i'm gonna send it to him. 1212 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 3: I should have done that. 1213 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 4: Damn. 1214 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 3: That's good. 1215 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 4: Then they're gonna say, who's Keisha Like he's taking the 1216 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 4: whole drake Keisha. Do you leve him that he's gonna 1217 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 4: use those same. 1218 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 3: Drums and sending me a sample back us? Yeah? 1219 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 5: So, oh can I tell you what so cheat GPT thought. 1220 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 5: Shack's answer was gonna go. That's my chiropractor's assistant. She 1221 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 5: calls me that because I got tension in my lower 1222 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,439 Speaker 5: lumbar at the background with therapeutic strictly medicals. I got 1223 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 5: receipts and insurance forms if you want it. 1224 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,919 Speaker 3: Why is a mass sous always the fall Yeah? Why 1225 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 3: is a massus always the fall guy for these? 1226 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 5: It was really good? 1227 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 3: That was That was way better that because that doesn't 1228 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 3: explain why she's calling him big sexy big. 1229 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: The reason it says for that, it said quote also 1230 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 5: big sexy is what they call patients over seven feet. 1231 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 3: But Shacks was bats Yeah, Shack crush that. 1232 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Hey, I got a question for you too. Why does 1233 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 4: the stupidest ship go viral? And this is where we're 1234 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 4: live in one man versus gorilla conversation? Oh my god, 1235 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 4: sh it just fucking took off one hundred men versus 1236 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 4: one gorilla like ship. That ship's everywhere? 1237 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 5: Why? 1238 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Because absurdity is entertaining. 1239 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm my bro. 1240 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 5: How many shacks would it take to be the gorilla? 1241 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 4: No, because Shaq already knows what the gorilla will fucking do, right, 1242 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 4: And I'm fucking leaving there. 1243 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 3: You go, give me, give me, give me Prime Shack, 1244 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 3: Give me like fifty Prime Shack and fifty Prome No. 1245 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty Prime Ben Wallace, twenty Prime Rashid Wallace and 1246 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 3: then sixty Prime Shack. 1247 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if you heard this story, 1248 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,919 Speaker 4: but every zoo if I went to, the gorilla tries 1249 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 4: to fucking fight me. 1250 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 3: For real? Is that real? Yes? 1251 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 4: Were? I? Actually I'm gonna call my guy. 1252 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 3: He's so intimidated though, Oh I never seen something. He 1253 01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 3: got a swing. 1254 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 4: They start off with the zoo in Miami, like the 1255 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 4: guys always like, they just take me to back. And 1256 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 4: he said, no, don't look at the gorilla. But I 1257 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 4: looked at one gorilla. That motherfucker. He came on to 1258 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 4: the wall and he was sucking out of eye like 1259 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 4: this oh ship. He was fucking looking at me, and 1260 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 4: I was looking at him and I was like, what 1261 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 4: the fuck you looking? And he just fucking went crazy. 1262 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 4: S So you actually had to look at me like, 1263 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 4: hey man, what the fuck are you doing out there? 1264 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 4: And I'm here. That's the first look he gave me. 1265 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 4: Then he then he was like then he gave me 1266 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 4: to look like, hey man, what are your motherfucking for 1267 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 4: at And the motherfucker tried to fight me. I'm not 1268 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 4: fucking no gorilla at all. 1269 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 3: So that's why I just I don't know if I've 1270 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 3: seen a gorilla face, how big are they? 1271 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 4: Like? 1272 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Face to face? 1273 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 4: Seven twelve? They need oh and fucking. 1274 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Oh hell no, what are people talking about that? Oh? 1275 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 4: They eat a salad. Fuckers don't eat meat. They eat grass. 1276 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 4: That's salad. 1277 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 5: Fucking I do like though what Russ said, and I 1278 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 5: think what we're gonna do really quickly and promptu is 1279 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 5: we're gonna have a guy draft to fight gorillas. And 1280 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 5: I think you should go up and back and we'll 1281 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 5: just pick three shack who would be your first pick 1282 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 5: if you had to fight a gorilla that you would 1283 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 5: send against the gorilla first. You get the first pick 1284 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 5: of any human in the world. 1285 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 4: Anybody crack. 1286 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 5: Shaq's first pick is a crackhead. 1287 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 3: Your first pick rip, but just prime Kimbo slice. 1288 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 5: Prime Kimbo slice. I love it. Russ, you have the 1289 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 5: first pick of the second round. 1290 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 3: Oh man, um, you can pick Shack. Shack already said 1291 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 3: he's running. We need people who are running at the game. 1292 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 5: You need fighters. 1293 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 3: I need somebody nuts. I need like brock Lesnar, like 1294 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 3: vintage brock Lesner. 1295 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 5: All right, So vintage Kimbo and the vintage brock Shack 1296 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 5: your second pick after the crackhead. 1297 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 4: A meth etic. 1298 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, can. 1299 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 5: We get Shack your final pick. 1300 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 3: My fighters also just must be on crack. That's a 1301 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 3: prerequisite to join the team. We're feeding the whole roster crack. 1302 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 5: And then Russ pick one more normal one. 1303 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 4: That's normal because you tell the crack. Hey, Maggie, a 1304 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 4: thousand do a fight the gorilla. The mother fucking be 1305 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 4: like a thousand dollars, right, all right, gonna be on 1306 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 4: a thousand there, fight that gorilla. Yeah, a thousand. 1307 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 3: Cats, right, Oh ship. 1308 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 4: Motherfucking meth myth out of Hey man, I got the 1309 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 4: mother fucking bag for you. For real's going there that 1310 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 4: can can see? Can see for me. It's not about 1311 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 4: the fight. It's about the research. Whatever the gorilla gonna 1312 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 4: do to that motherfucker you're gonna do to everybody coming there. Okay, 1313 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 4: he bites motherfucker uses his forms and they ain't gonna 1314 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 4: feel it anyway. So all right, before you go, give 1315 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 4: me your mouth Rushmore, like we always. 1316 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Do this with with without us rappers. 1317 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, rappers, let's go rappers. 1318 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Man, there's only four then my favorite, It's funny. My 1319 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 3: favorite is different than like, who I technically think is 1320 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 3: the best? Who I technically think is the best is 1321 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 3: uh Black Thought? 1322 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah? I mean did you see his hot ninety 1323 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:17,919 Speaker 4: seven frees? 1324 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 3: I watch it religiously. You have writers blocked watch that? Yeah, 1325 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 3: Black Thought and. 1326 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Jay Z. 1327 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Technically it's probably Andre three thousand is maybe where I 1328 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 3: would go with that. Fourth, that's just the best. My favorite, though, 1329 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 3: is Drake Yay Nipsey. 1330 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 4: And you notice we have the fanals glove right. 1331 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 3: I see this. 1332 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you a secret. Yeah, I'm in talks 1333 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 4: to become the new fanals. Wow, I heard her first. 1334 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 3: That checks out makes sense. 1335 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 4: Just saying yeah, I'm in talks. I'm not saying we 1336 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 4: get it. I'm just in talk. 1337 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 3: Who's your amount? Rushmore big Man with my. 1338 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 4: Mom Rushmore, big Man, Wilt Kareem Elijah Wan. I love 1339 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 4: Patrick you mm hmmm. I just always like you're hurting me. 1340 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 4: The dog them out. Yeah, you know, I'm big on tactics. 1341 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 4: I want to be the man, so I got I 1342 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 4: have to kill you. 1343 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, but I just love him like that. 1344 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you keep that confidential about that? 1345 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 1346 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 5: Can you give us your best Thanos voice? 1347 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 4: No, not yet, but I will. 1348 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 3: He's working with that. 1349 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 4: I have to see a scene and of this right 1350 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 4: here is doctor Strange, the next Doctor Strange. What he's 1351 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 4: going to do like this. Yeah, it's gonna be real brief, 1352 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: but like you can just see my face pop up. 1353 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 3: It just turns the smoke. 1354 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 4: It's gonna I'm gonna come back in. 1355 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1356 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 4: I just signed the deal yesterday, so nice, don't tell anybody. 1357 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard it here first. 1358 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 4: Thank you brother. 1359 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 3: You want Thank you man. 1360 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 4: We exchange numbers. If you get me that, I want 1361 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 4: to make a hot up stip remix. Yeah, I appreciate it. 1362 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Thank you man. And if I'm ever in a jam, 1363 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 3: I know who not to call. Hey, you called me. 1364 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 3: I got you, Thank you man, for real. This is awesome. 1365 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 3: It's called beatbox. Well we should have been drinking these 1366 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 3: on the and if you would have got a little different. Yeah, 1367 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 3: it's for the best that we didn't drink. Let me 1368 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 3: think it's actually really good, right, Yeah, I'm not even 1369 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 3: saying that because I'm just like, it's really good. It's 1370 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 3: not like it's not super strong vodka. It's still flavor. 1371 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 3: It's a you know what, it tastes like. It tastes 1372 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 3: like a slippery sloop. If you want to give it 1373 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 3: a scale one to ten, it's rating this particular fit flavor. 1374 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't love lemon in general, and for Lemon, I'm still. 1375 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 5: Giving this a nine to. 1376 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Okay, shut out, be back. Yeah, absolutely beautiful. 1377 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 5: You know, I just heard Shack talking about Thanos and 1378 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 5: so we do have some special people here. We're enjoined 1379 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 5: now by Adam Rzoff of East Continental Gems in New 1380 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 5: York City. I'm holding it down in Brooklyn while you're 1381 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 5: there at Shack's place in Atlanta, and I'm seeing some 1382 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 5: unbelievable stuff on the table. So if you could take 1383 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 5: us through what you do and then also how you 1384 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 5: started working with Marvel, because this is unbelievable. 1385 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 9: Okay, absolutely, I mean we're a fifth generation jewelry. We've 1386 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 9: been doing jewelry and gems for five five generations. So 1387 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,719 Speaker 9: when we picked out these six incredible stones, I said, 1388 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 9: these will represent the Infinity stones. We never realized it 1389 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 9: was going to go and seeing like that. So what 1390 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 9: we're doing is we're not we're kind of like we 1391 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 9: started creating Okay, individual infinity stones in these collectible seals. 1392 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,799 Speaker 9: You got to see those. Super cool. This is projective. 1393 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 9: You're s because you're wearing the IFAKA moto. 1394 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 4: Check this out. 1395 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 9: So these are these are collector cards with Jennaen. We're 1396 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 9: the first people to say, all right, we're not going 1397 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 9: to sell as a piece of jewelry. You could always 1398 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 9: make it jewelry. Well that's why we picked the number. Dude, 1399 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 9: Thank you, brother, I appreciate that. And that's going on 1400 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 9: a special place in my office. I was kind of 1401 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 9: hoping you forgot this today. 1402 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so let me listen to the story. Read the story. 1403 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, that's because of the story, so you know 1404 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 9: again I can tell thing. So Boston, you must have 1405 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 9: been like early on in your career, but it might 1406 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 9: be too. It's like like late nineties or maybe like 1407 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 9: mid nineties. I'm in Boston and Copley Square in the 1408 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 9: Nephen Marcus and I think doubt you remember, but like 1409 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 9: it was like a Tuesday morning, like ten o'clock in 1410 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 9: the morning or maybe eleven or something like that, and 1411 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 9: I was doing a trunk show with Memes. My whole 1412 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 9: career has been like kind of we're behind the scene. 1413 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 9: It's like supporting, you know, retail stores. We would you know, 1414 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 9: we do the wholesale side. So we've been working with 1415 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 9: Memens and saxoph Avenue and Cardier Vanki and our pels 1416 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 9: like those types of establishments our whole life. So I'm 1417 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 9: doing this trunk show. 1418 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 4: We probably have I. 1419 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 9: Don't know, thirty forty million dollars worth of stuff in 1420 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 9: the cases and there's no one there. It's eleven am 1421 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 9: on a Tuesday. Maybe it there's like yeah, one, yeah, 1422 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 9: like one shopper cog bowns around and Shaquille O'Neal walks in. 1423 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 4: Right. 1424 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 9: It starts like it's it's eleven o'clock. There's no one around, 1425 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 9: like you like walking the floor at Memens like like whatever, 1426 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 9: looking at shirts and this and that whatever. 1427 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 4: You know. 1428 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 9: Back then the phones or video like I wasn't like 1429 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 9: taking like selfies and stuff like that. So it's kind 1430 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 9: of like waiting by the showcase and you, you know, 1431 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 9: you finally kind of come around the showcase and I 1432 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,600 Speaker 9: had just finished the biggest diamond, you know. I just 1433 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 9: came into business in like ninety four were so it's 1434 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 9: a must have been like ninety six or something like that. 1435 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 9: I just cut a diamond that's even bigger than the 1436 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 9: thirty five carra that's in there. It's forty two point 1437 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 9: thirty nine U diamond and it was in a ring 1438 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 9: and I cut the stone from the rough. It was 1439 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 9: like my first really giant diamond that we caught. And 1440 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 9: you came to the showcase and your eye went right 1441 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 9: to the biggest stone in the showcase. You're stealing a story, Ronald, Yes, 1442 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 9: so he said, he goes, what is that? I said, like, 1443 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 9: forty forty two carrod diamonds? Still giving you the whole thing, 1444 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 9: I'm thinking, maybe I can I say out here how much? 1445 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 9: I said, like three million dollars. It's probably worth ten today, 1446 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,760 Speaker 9: And I said you want to see it. You're like, yeah, great, 1447 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 9: pull it out, put on your pinky. That's about where 1448 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 9: it goes, right, look it here and you put in 1449 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,759 Speaker 9: your pink and I go, what do you think. You go, hmm, 1450 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 9: you put it in your pocket. You start walking away, 1451 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 9: You go, what diamond? 1452 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 4: That was you? 1453 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you remember really? 1454 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 4: Oh that was you? 1455 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you remember that? 1456 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 4: Bro? That was you? I don't remember that Holy ship. 1457 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 4: But you know, it's crazy like I tell people all 1458 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 4: the time, and like, you know, we talk about image, 1459 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 4: Like I always tell people image of reality. So what 1460 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 4: you see is what you gave with me the same 1461 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 4: laugh he did, now, the same thing he did. He 1462 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 4: fucking laughed, he laughed because like everyone knows, Shack to night, Like. 1463 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Bro, that was you. 1464 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 9: You were five feet from the showcase you like you 1465 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 9: like less, you started walking away like you know. 1466 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 4: It was you. Oh ship? 1467 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, awesome people. You know there's something about gems, especially 1468 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 9: real ones, that people get nervous around them stuff like 1469 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 9: you know, like so but it was so cool, like 1470 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,640 Speaker 9: you know, like you just kind of like humanized the 1471 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 9: whole thing. 1472 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 4: It was. It was great, Like we always we always say, 1473 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 4: can shock get away with it? Me and Kenny one 1474 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 4: day went to the store to steal on purpose. I 1475 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 4: fucking Grady came down and walk by, and you know 1476 01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 4: what the lay said, Shack stopped playing. Yeah, Like I 1477 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 4: just grabbed a cad. Just walk out like I'm not 1478 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 4: fucking bad. I want her to color Shack stop playing. 1479 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 4: Come on, Chack, I know you got a dollard thirty 1480 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 4: you know what you caught me? Bro? That was you 1481 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 4: for man? Yeah, I remember that. No, that's true. I 1482 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 4: took it down and like, motherfucker, what diamond? My fucking 1483 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 4: robbery right now, put your hands up. That's crazy. Can 1484 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 4: you name those stones? 1485 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1486 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 4: In the infinity, No, until you know you got a diamond? 1487 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, So the diamonds of the yellow stone in the 1488 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 9: center is a very rare yellow diamond. It's thirty five carrots. 1489 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 9: Proximately in the thumb, which is the time stone, which 1490 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 9: is the green stones and emerald, that's about twenty three carrots. 1491 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 9: That stone is extremely, extremely rare, absolutely the best color. 1492 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 9: Every one of these stones about the shack. Every one 1493 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,600 Speaker 9: of them, in their own individual right, belongs in a 1494 01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,839 Speaker 9: in a separate case in the Fancist jewelry store our museum, 1495 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 9: and we took six and put them into one work 1496 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 9: of art. I don't think it's ever been done before it, 1497 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 9: you know. So the green is the emerald. What we 1498 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 9: did is we kind of combined. It was really cool. 1499 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 9: We wanted the best the experts of both worlds, like 1500 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 9: creative side, the jeweler side, to be connected the labor, 1501 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 9: the best of what I do and the best of the. 1502 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 3: Marvel does come. 1503 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 4: You didn't make that like a solid gold gold. 1504 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 9: So because let's let's think about it, Phanos was a brutalist, 1505 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 9: you know, he was the gold like. He wasn't working 1506 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 9: around with the gold gallet the original files with the 1507 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 9: day that we got the original files to Marvel, we said, okay, 1508 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,839 Speaker 9: we're going to make it accurate, script accurate, movie accurate. 1509 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 3: But where we're going to. 1510 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 9: Make it real the eighteen carrot gold is on the gems. 1511 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 9: That's where we said, our expertise has to be on 1512 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 9: the gem side, you know. So that was and assembling 1513 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 9: that was the absolute coolest thing ever. It was my jewelry. 1514 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 9: How long did that take between all the files and 1515 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 9: you know, changing them over and the jeweler and it's 1516 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 9: a it's a story months months. But actual assembly was, 1517 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 9: believe it or not, It was a night before Comic Con. 1518 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 9: Was down to the last minute. My jeweler got all 1519 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 9: the stones ready just in time. I was in La 1520 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 9: We stayed up all my assembling these stones, and then 1521 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 9: it was launched at Comic Con San Diego. I drove 1522 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 9: down to San Diego with the Gauntlet and then we 1523 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 9: launched and the rest is history. We were on every 1524 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 9: every media platform you can imagine in the world. 1525 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 4: I always wanted to ask how you get those damn stones? 1526 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Where? 1527 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 4: How like the one in the middle? You tell me 1528 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 4: how much it costs? How do you? I mean, like, 1529 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 4: who do you call to get that? 1530 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 9: My dad? My dad is one of the biggest experts, 1531 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 9: maybe today alive, the biggest expert in color gems in 1532 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 9: the world. And some of these stones are like family 1533 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 9: legacy stones. I mean, what we've created here in the 1534 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 9: One of Ones are utilizing our legacy stones. Let's call 1535 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 9: them the best of the best, the highest of the high. 1536 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 9: But what we'd want to do is that's just for 1537 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 9: the One of Ones. But we want to bring this 1538 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 9: stones and values to the world, like we have a 1539 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 9: vision of everybody in the world is entitled to have 1540 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 9: an infinity stone the same way they have birthstone, you know, 1541 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 9: Like infinity stone represents power and mind and soul, and 1542 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 9: these creative writings are maybe the greatest ever. Some of 1543 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 9: this stuff is iconic. 1544 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 4: So is it known how much his glove is worth 1545 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:47,839 Speaker 4: on the internet. 1546 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,640 Speaker 9: I mean the papers, you know, gave a number, you know, 1547 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 9: like I look. 1548 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,759 Speaker 5: At this as what did they say? 1549 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 9: The papers said twenty five million? 1550 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 4: All right, So. 1551 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 9: I think that the ruby slippers just sold for thirty 1552 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 9: two million dollars. 1553 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 5: They don't have a ruby in them, So you think, 1554 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 5: what one hundred and twenty five mili. 1555 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 9: I think that it's worth a lot. I think it's priceless, 1556 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 9: and I think that it represents also the pop culture 1557 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 9: of this generation. I don't think that you could look 1558 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,960 Speaker 9: at anything else that we could, like in the last 1559 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 9: three decades, say that is recognizable by every kid, every fan, 1560 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 9: every demographic. 1561 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 4: So a big in there art collectors watching the show, 1562 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 4: and he offers you three hundred let it go? 1563 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 9: Three hundred million. Yeah, it's a lot of it's a 1564 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 9: lot of million. 1565 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,520 Speaker 3: Dollars. 1566 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 4: Do you let it go? Yeah? And the second part 1567 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 4: of question, is it one on one one one? Yeah, 1568 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,639 Speaker 4: So I'm the only one in the world with it 1569 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 4: three hundred million. That's my last, one, final offer right now? 1570 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,720 Speaker 4: Would you let it go? 1571 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 3: Look? 1572 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, but but honestly, I like I look at 1573 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 9: the one of one collection as an opportunity, like if 1574 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 9: you had the baby Ruth's Rookie card, you know, or 1575 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 9: or Shacks Rookie card with with every you know, every 1576 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 9: perfect you know mind condition opportunity, like you don't want 1577 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 9: to give away the like the and. 1578 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 5: Now you're talking to the wrong guy. I'm the collector, 1579 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 5: the seller. 1580 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, look I see, I see an opportunity here to 1581 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,799 Speaker 9: give the world a chance to see this and still 1582 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,759 Speaker 9: you know, support the business. I mean this is people 1583 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 9: have been coming to visit our showroom and soho. People 1584 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,560 Speaker 9: have been coming just to see the Infinity Gauntlet, the 1585 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 9: Scepter and the and the Ivato. It's a destinational line. 1586 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 9: Like you know, the most visited place on Earth, or 1587 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 9: one of them is the Hope Diamond, the Crown Jewels. 1588 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 9: Crown Jewels kick off one hundred million dollars a year 1589 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 9: in revenue just to go see him. 1590 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 4: That's in Paris, in London, London. May may I touch it? 1591 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 9: It's an ideal situation. But yeah, I mean, go for it. 1592 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to Orange, I mean not everyone, but 1593 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 3: Jack you go. 1594 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I don't want your break Rose, 1595 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:19,679 Speaker 4: Can you have your lovely son? 1596 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 5: Who is the Thanos of the n B A history? 1597 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 9: That's a cool question, in. 1598 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 5: The history of the NBA. 1599 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,839 Speaker 4: Just stop it. I don't like to Who's whose fanos? 1600 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 5: Me? 1601 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 4: That's a dumb question. 1602 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 5: So then who would you say? Who would you say? 1603 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,759 Speaker 5: Are the Avengers sent to stop you? 1604 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of people to try to stop me. 1605 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 5: Let me see, it would be the Pistons. 1606 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 4: Sorry, it'll be. 1607 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 9: Like you leaned into Thanos as opposed to a hero 1608 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 9: and like you're your superman. 1609 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 4: How can you win? 1610 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 9: How come you win Thanos? 1611 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 4: Because there's a lot of imposter supermans? So I was 1612 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 4: uh killed off somehow. So now I'm a bad guy 1613 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 4: and I want to erase everything and erase everybody. So 1614 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 4: now on th kno, can I touch for you? Yeah, 1615 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 4: just just listen, please be careful. Just just just put 1616 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 4: it right there, and I just want to look at it. 1617 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 5: Put it on. Put it on. 1618 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna drop a brother, trust men. 1619 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,720 Speaker 2: Snap your fingers. 1620 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 4: So this one is. 1621 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 2: Special, very very rare. 1622 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 3: Grant this one. 1623 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 9: Uh sapphire amethyst, Yomo diamond. 1624 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it right? I think nice? All right? 1625 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 4: Three hundred and fifty million cash. Yeah, cash. 1626 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 9: Look, I'll tell you what for three point fifty. For 1627 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 9: three fifty, I'll throw in the sceptor. So we have 1628 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 9: you guys have the sub. You gotta show it to 1629 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 9: one man. So this is so look so so. 1630 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 3: And this check is so. This we had before I 1631 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 3: tell you about so had this scepter. 1632 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 4: Two. 1633 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,519 Speaker 9: Uh, the thus gave the scepter Loki lokay, except THEO 1634 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 9: gave up the log. 1635 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 4: So now I gotta go watch a movie. 1636 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 9: Buried in here is a twenty carried yellow sapphire or 1637 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,560 Speaker 9: rare stone. We have to have this made with a 1638 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 9: a sword maker in Deep Long Island, like you know, 1639 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 9: it's not easy to find the sword maker, like you know, 1640 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 9: but this took about nine months to make. Forts Yeah, 1641 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 9: it's real jet like the bulb or what we call 1642 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 9: the bulb. 1643 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 3: You know, like we we had to make what you. 1644 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 9: See in the film a CGI, right, so we had 1645 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,639 Speaker 9: to kind of like make it reality, like what would 1646 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 9: if it was real? 1647 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 3: What would it be? 1648 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 9: And I went through I don't know four or five 1649 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 9: different versions of like what it would be? 1650 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,480 Speaker 4: Make you feel like a superhero? 1651 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1652 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 5: Have the actors themselves got to hold any of those pieces. 1653 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 5: I didn't realize it was CGI in all the movies. 1654 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 9: Well look, look, the studio obviously has they have props 1655 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 9: right that they use, but those props have nowadays everything 1656 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 9: has doctored, you know, pieces of CGI attached to it. 1657 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,960 Speaker 9: So we had the opportunity to kind of have the 1658 01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 9: only one of one. Because back in the day you 1659 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 9: have to use whatever was on set. You used whatever 1660 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 9: was on set. Today, no one's gonna want the prop 1661 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 9: that has little, you know, pieces of C g I 1662 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 9: on it or whatever or plastic gems in it. So 1663 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 9: when we did it, we kind of like said, oh, 1664 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 9: this will be cool. And you know, one of the 1665 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 9: one of the smartest guys I ever met. Like, my 1666 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 9: whole experience through the Marvel and Disney has been like 1667 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 9: just amazing. 1668 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 4: I have to say it. 1669 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 9: Like they're you know, dealing with brilliant creatives and smart 1670 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 9: business people and it's been it's been a great ride. 1671 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 9: But like, well that's for you. Yeah, Shack, we brought you. 1672 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,559 Speaker 9: We brought your own gauntlet. I got your little gift. 1673 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 9: These actually haven't been sold yet, brand new, they are 1674 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 9: brand new. 1675 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 4: We just got these. 1676 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, where if somebody wants to check out these things. 1677 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 5: Where can they go to get another look at the gauntlet, 1678 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 5: the scepter, all that. 1679 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 9: So thank you for asking that, Adam, east Continental Gems 1680 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 9: dot com is our is our website and then we 1681 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 9: actually for the for specific for this podcast. You're gonna 1682 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 9: put in the code big content and you you get 1683 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 9: a ten percent discount on on our merchant. 1684 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 5: I said, Adam, thank you so much, brother, thanks for 1685 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,600 Speaker 5: bringing it. And uh, make sure you get out, you 1686 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 5: get out with all of your pieces because Shack will 1687 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 5: try it again. 1688 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you listen, I'm gonna tell you. I'm 1689 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 4: gonna tell you how much respect you got. Well, my cousin, 1690 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,679 Speaker 4: my manager, is a marble fan. He said, hey, bring 1691 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 4: these marble pieces and the next thing is after that. 1692 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 4: Don't be fucking around, like what do you means that 1693 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 4: fucking loves expensive? What do you mean? He told me 1694 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 4: the price? So yes, thank you for we'll come with us. 1695 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 4: It's a lot. It means a lot, and appreciate it. 1696 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,719 Speaker 4: So let me give you a ship back now because 1697 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 4: I will ocean is thirteen. Ass can you hit the lights? 1698 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,799 Speaker 3: It's fourteen? 1699 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1700 01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 3: Thanks? 1701 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 4: What happened to the glove? 1702 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1703 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 4: I was sitting here the whole time. 1704 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,600 Speaker 5: I thought you had it. 1705 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 4: For me. It's not about the fight, it's about the research. 1706 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 4: Whatever the gorilla gonna do that book, he's gonna do 1707 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,639 Speaker 4: to everybody that's coming out