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Speaker 1: Yeah, not much. Just been chilling here with Rex Rex.

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Speaker 1: Say Hi, Say hi Rex. Look who is it's your

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Speaker 1: He misses you. Good Good morning, sweet world, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Nodungks Podcast, presented by Amazon Prime. It's Friday,

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Speaker 1: June sixth, twenty twenty five. This is the drop. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jay Skeats here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 1: as always tas Mellis.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say it once to get it out of

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Speaker 1: Curtain Halliper Omrionder making the magic happen. It's super producer JD. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is here. We are big shouts to our

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Speaker 1: guys Trey and Esch who went live last night from

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Speaker 1: the OKC floor to give their immediate reaction to this

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Speaker 1: crazy game that we're going to get into. TK even

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Speaker 1: got dapped up mid stream by Kenny the Jet Smith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So this was a hilarious twenty five minute podcast the

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Speaker 1: guys did after the game last night.

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Speaker 2: It was great. It was great as we just watched

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Speaker 2: it again. I still laugh every time I see Kenny

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Speaker 2: c Trey, and it looks like Trey is getting back

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Speaker 2: to work to talk about basketball, but Kenny comes in,

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Speaker 2: surprising that Kenny comes in right for the DAP.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Kenny Smith hated us guess when we first

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Speaker 1: got there, then he loved us. Yeah, good stuff from

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Speaker 1: Trey and Ashley.

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Speaker 2: If waiting for my JBL speaker by the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a great gift at that part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't checked that out podcast, out that video,

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Speaker 1: go do so help the guys out did a great

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Speaker 1: job going live last night. But it's our turn now

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Speaker 1: to really dig into it. We'll get to some random notes,

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Speaker 1: it's the drop. We'll have some rapid fire fun at

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Speaker 1: the end. But the Pacers did it again. The underdog

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers pulled off another stunning win last night, this

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Speaker 1: time taking down the Thunder one eleven in Game one

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five Finals. The Pacers trailed by

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Speaker 1: as many as fifteen points in the fourth quarter unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: but pulled off their fourth shocking late comeback of these playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and Tyrese Haliburton once again the hero, hitting the game

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Speaker 1: winning jumper with point three seconds left. His deep deuce

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Speaker 1: gave Indy its first and only lead of the entire game,

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Speaker 1: They've done it again tests and they're up one.

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Speaker 2: Man, it is unbelievable that each series, now all four series,

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Speaker 2: Haliburton has hit a shot in the last one point

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Speaker 2: three seconds left in either the fourth quarter overtime to

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Speaker 2: either tie it or win it. I'm glad he didn't

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Speaker 2: do the choke thing like he happens to do is

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Speaker 2: his game one of the NBA Finals. Let's wait before

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Speaker 2: the choke. But I do want to just watch it

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Speaker 2: over and over and over because Cason Wallas picked him

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Speaker 2: up full court and he tracked him the entire way,

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Speaker 2: and I like watching it from this opposite end of camera,

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Speaker 2: this phantom view, because Cason Walls is on him, but

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Speaker 2: I think he sees Alex Caruso coming, so he kind

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Speaker 2: As halburn season He's like, Okay, I'm rising and I'm

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Speaker 2: from this perspective, because Cason Walls, again he was tracking

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Speaker 2: that spot where Crusoe looks like it's your job now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, credit to Carlisle and the pacers for not

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Speaker 1: otherwise you probably got doored on him, right, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: the smaller wallace on him, the big dude, he goes

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Speaker 2: It is unbelievable how they got there in the end, because,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart was a hero in this game, because even

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Speaker 2: it came down to it fifteen fifteen points down, nine

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Speaker 2: twelve to two run to bring the Pacers back in

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Speaker 2: this game. Four threes by their bigs, two from Miles Turner,

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Speaker 2: Nemhard with two minutes left, hits that three over Shay

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Speaker 2: deciding to go extremely small the last three minutes and

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Speaker 2: debate whether or not it was a smart move. Lou

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Speaker 2: Dort had a monstrous block with a minute plus left,

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Speaker 2: that lou Dort block over and over and over again,

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Speaker 2: and then block the shot. That was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And then Sga scored on the other end. And that

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Speaker 1: they got it right, they did it. Okay, so he's

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Speaker 1: To me, it was like, Okay, this one's finally over.

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Speaker 1: They finally did it. But I thought that like ten

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a rap. Yeah, it's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: How did these guys come back?

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Speaker 2: I will say though, Shade did have a bad minute

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Speaker 2: He goes in, Pascal Siakam acting as center, blocks the

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Speaker 2: he misses. Shaye is guarding Pascal Siakam and Pascal Siakam says,

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Speaker 1: I'll add to that though. You know, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: like defending SGA. He definitely looked Ash would have had

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Speaker 1: the NBA, I swear to God, it's your best chance

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Speaker 2: Just miss it bad, that's how you get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because obviously the defense is like ready for the board,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, continue, Yeah, No, it's hard to say Shay

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Speaker 2: he says, all right, Jaalen Williams, you do it. Jalen

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Speaker 2: I think Pascal Siakam was pushed by Cason Wallace. They

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Speaker 2: by Andrew Demhart Q Halliburton to come the other way

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Speaker 2: you're right, how many times do you think? Okay, so

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Speaker 2: he's taken this thing. Okay, So he's taken this thing.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Williams is yelling, he's screaming with nine point thirty

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Speaker 2: Demhart again started it. He started it, but all those

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Speaker 2: those guys just come through in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after an abysmal first half. Yeah, where I know

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this, but what nineteen turnovers in the

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Speaker 1: The Pacers did an incredible job just to get back.

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Speaker 1: Their transition defense was awesome, even if they were turning

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Speaker 1: you said, that fight in the fourth quarter, I even

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Speaker 1: think I know he gets overlooked here, I thought Mathron

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Speaker 1: He attacked the rim, he got some free throws, then

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Speaker 1: he had another layup, just like using his athleticism. Again,

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Speaker 1: there were so many incidents where they just sort of

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Speaker 1: in the NBA that's not enough and definitely not enough

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Speaker 1: against the Pacers, and they could never get over the hump,

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Speaker 1: and the Thunder just like sort of started settling for threes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Matherin played a part. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing that every single guy on this Pacers

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Speaker 2: Shaye when he was guarding him, like he did on

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunton in the last series. Bedan Matherin of all

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Speaker 2: people like slowing people down. But it was miraculous in

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Speaker 2: that fourth quarter, those stats where the Thunder oz for

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Speaker 2: from three while the Pacers hit sixth trees.

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Speaker 1: Six for ten in the fourth quarter. From the Pacers

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Speaker 1: they hit eighteen overall and the Thunder missed a bunch

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Speaker 2: Dallas wasn't really sorry the Pacers versus Milwaukee. Some people

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Speaker 1: It feels like Indiana has played in nine official clutch

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Speaker 2: Because he basically is, Yeah he is.

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Speaker 1: the Pacers would be the equivalent. Like they jump back

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Speaker 1: It's it's special. It's special. They do legit feel. I know,

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Speaker 2: No, and then that's a fair question. With three twenty

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Dagnall started Wallace for Hartenstein in

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Speaker 1: I mean their did work.

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Speaker 2: think there was a miscommunication there. Yeah, I am surprised

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Speaker 2: for sure. Well, you don't play one of your bigs,

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Speaker 2: you win and got hartenshein to pair with Homegroom before

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Speaker 2: And I don't think Cason Wallace was the problem at all.

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Speaker 2: But I mean the Spacers team, I guess would have

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: When he checked, he was so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it isn't why it right to start the game.

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Speaker 2: It isn't surprising that Cason Wallace played thirty three minutes

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Speaker 1: Do you think he goes back?

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Speaker 1: in game one at home when you've won again eighty games.

431
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 1: At this point, you're sixty eight wins in the regular

432
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 1: season and you're twelve up to this point, you're looking

433
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: for four more. That's the weird part.

434
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they go back to the

435
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 2: Hertenstein because he was he was so good, as you

436
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: said the points at setting picks. He's such a good

437
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 2: screen flipper. You know, it's a first he's in Isaiah Hartenstein,

438
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 2: then he's Isaiah hart and Stein. He just flips, So

439
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: I associate that with his name because I think he

440
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: says Isaiah hart and Stein.

441
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: I don't anyway, I stay Hartenstein, you have you, I

442
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: feel do go more Steen.

443
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: And we've had it depends the day. Tray should ask him,

444
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 2: because Hartenstein came up to Trey if you didn't hear

445
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: our last show and said, well, I used to watch

446
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: you guys when I was young, and he put his

447
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 2: hand to the floor like he's like.

448
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: I used to watch you guys when I was a Hartenstein.

449
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

450
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm a heart and Stein.

451
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: But he was awesome. He was so good he was

452
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 2: and there's lots of stats that don't show up in

453
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: the box score, but Andrew nemhart airball to three because

454
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: Hartenstein was all up in his face getting out there

455
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: to three pointers. Now, I think part of that is

456
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 2: because he was that sort of in a way. It

457
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: was good because he had all that energy not having

458
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: to start the game, and I think he why he

459
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: was able to contest shots like that, why he was

460
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 2: able to blow by Thomas Bryant was because he came

461
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: off the bench and was that spark. So I guess

462
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: they stick with Cason Wallace. Yeah, because if there's any

463
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: team to go small against, it is this s Pacers

464
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: team that isn't huge. That does.

465
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: But but all that said, the Pacers won the rebound battle.

466
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: Lest yea they did.

467
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: That's big, especially in a game where you're gonna turn

468
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: it over on so many damn possessions, you're gonna hopefully

469
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: want to win at least the rebounding battle, which you know,

470
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: those guys were scrappy, like what you what's the box

471
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: scots like Siakam with ten boards, Nie Smith with twelve boards,

472
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: Haliburton had ten boards, so everybody obviously getting on the glass. Yeah,

473
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: to give him a chance and give him those either

474
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: second chances or to end a possession and get the stop.

475
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So it wouldn't be surpising if they go

476
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: either way. I guess it is the mental win for

477
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: the Pacers if they do flip it again.

478
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, they're adapting to us. We know what we are,

479
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: we know how we're gonna play, and we know how

480
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna start this game. So I guess a little bit.

481
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: But like you said, it's not like it's not like

482
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: Indiana was up at the end of the first quarter.

483
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: But despite everything being turned over, they somehow were not

484
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: down huge. Every time you were like this game feels

485
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: like ok, he just sort of crushing them, and there

486
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh it's an eight point game, No, it's

487
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: ten point game, right, never really out of it all

488
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: that much.

489
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: And they react extremely well to losing that game one

490
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: against the Denver Nuggets and bomb them by forty three

491
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: in game two. But they didn't have to change their

492
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 2: lineup at all, right, They just they just rolled that

493
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: same lineup again. So you could see them rolling again

494
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: with that same lineup.

495
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Speaker 1: I loved SGA's quote after the game. He said, it's

496
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: a forty eight minute game. The Pacers teach you that

497
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: lesson more than anybody else in the league. The hard

498
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: way facts right there. It's like they had them. I

499
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: mean they had them for what would you call it,

500
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, forty minutes if not longer. It's all

501
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with it, and then their foot off the gas

502
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: a little bit and the Pacers do what they do.

503
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. Is Halliburton currently having the

504
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: greatest clutch playoff run in NBA history? Like when you

505
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: go through it, because despite only fourteen points, he has

506
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: made the key shot in every one of the pacers

507
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: four ridiculous comebacks this postseason Game five versus the Bucks,

508
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: Game two versus the Cavs, Game one versus the Knicks,

509
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: and now Game one in the NBA Finals versus the Thunder.

510
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: It sure feels that way right since the.

511
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: NBA play by play era, people are comparing it, like

512
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: because that comes in what ninety six ninety seven the

513
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: play by play era, So you can't like, we don't

514
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: have like the clutch numbers for your birds and your

515
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: magics and even a lot of your Jordan's right, but

516
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Jordan ninety eight, clutch as hell, Robert Lorry in two

517
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: thousand and two. Yeah, a few Lebrons to pick from either, oh, seven, thirteen, eighteen,

518
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's probably some other ones. Twenty eleven, Dirk

519
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: to go back to that Mavericks miraculous run that they did.

520
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: So it's right there, is my point, It like has

521
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, they go on to win the

522
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: title as one of the biggest upsets of all time,

523
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: as the only force he'd to ever do it, then

524
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: then hell, he might have to go to the top

525
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: of the list. But right now he's just completely in

526
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: the mix with these goats basically.

527
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it happened during the regular season too, the

528
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: stat going around that he had he was twelve or

529
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: fourteen on shots to tie or go ahead the final

530
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: two minutes. And how he does it because the other

531
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: guy is that possible? I know, I know, it doesn't

532
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: make sense.

533
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: They don't don't. They don't go twelve or fourteen in

534
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: spans of the game in general, not alone in these

535
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: high pressure moments when all the focuses on stopping them.

536
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: But he just gets to his shot, and you know,

537
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: had the you know, basically had to horseshoe up his

538
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: ass in the one against the Knicks, no doubt, to

539
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: get it to overtime. Yeah, like that one's so a

540
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: little bit of luck, A lot of luck, not that one.

541
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean it banged home a little bit, but obviously

542
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: comfortable getting to his spot like.

543
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: You yaies right. I want a little bit of an

544
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: a I re edit of having Cason Wallace all up

545
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: in his face rather than take a step back to

546
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: give him a little space before that shot. I would

547
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: like to see. Obviously it's all fakes, so we won't

548
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: be able to relive the actual moment that the ball

549
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: is released from Tyrese Halburton's hands. But Cason Wallace unfortunately

550
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: gave him that tiny bit of space. Whether or not

551
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: it was a defensive flubb with him and Caruso, he

552
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: probably thought Cruso, the bigger guy, would be there to

553
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: contest the shot. I can't I wish, I wish we

554
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: were in the locker room to find out what that

555
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: mistake was, because I don't know if he makes the shot.

556
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: I mean you call it a mistake, I mean you

557
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: sort of just have to tip your cap to the guy.

558
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: I'm tipping my cap. But if I'm playing, if I'm

559
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: playing defense and I'm able to guard him from the

560
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: moment he has the ball to all the way to

561
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: the three point line, if I'm able to stick with him,

562
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: and then I just kind of take a little step

563
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: back and give him space. I wouldn't never he would

564
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: never give him space. Keithan Walls would never give him space.

565
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Halliburton was well aware of how much clock was left.

566
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he basically played it perfect right and getting

567
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: like playing it to the last possible second to shoot.

568
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: I know there's point three left once it goes in,

569
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: but like when he releases it, you know, Wallace has

570
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: to play. I'm like he might drive. We've seen Haliburton

571
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: go inside there now you generally think he wants to

572
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: do his little step back. He's done that a lot

573
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: of times, but sort of down the stretch, had a

574
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: couple where he was attacking and scoring inside. So you

575
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: got to play that. You don't have Chet out there,

576
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: you don't have Hertenstein. Yeah, so it's not like you

577
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: got huge rim protection behind him. So I don't know

578
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: he was trying to like sort of back up a

579
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: little bit. But what a shot.

580
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just unbelievable right now, he is unbelievable.

581
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: It's nuts. I saw this from Sam Quinn at CBS Sports.

582
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: No one else in the play by play era, including Lebron,

583
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: has made at least one such shot, these Halliburton like

584
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: shots in each of the four rounds across their entire careers,

585
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: because he has. As I went through there, he's done

586
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: it in every single round. Halliburton has one of these

587
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: nuts shots. Jordan did it, but he didn't complete his

588
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: bingo card until the ninety seven NBA finals, So Jordan

589
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: eventually got one in every round, but it took him

590
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: a long time. So the point is Haliburton has done

591
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: in a single postseason what it took Jordan to do

592
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: in an entire career, and what Lebron has not even

593
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, actually accomplished in twenty two NBA seasons. Basically

594
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: basically game winner or clutch shot like that in the

595
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: final couple seconds in every single round.

596
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the benefit is Haliburton being the sort of

597
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: pure point guard type of player where he doesn't have

598
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: to shoot every possession. He doesn't. He doesn't need twenty

599
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: five to thirty shots per game. Thin guy, had a

600
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: fourteen point game, and he had a game winner, and

601
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: he's the hero because these are the Pacers. Man. Yeah,

602
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't shoot all the time, so it is fun.

603
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: It is fun, and that's the reason why I feel

604
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: like he had every little ounce of energy that Shay

605
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: didn't on the other side. I mean, Shay had to

606
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: be sort of a hero the entire game, and he

607
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: had monstrous help at handling the ball.

608
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: You slipped it in there at one point a lane

609
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: violation on the Siakam free throw attend when he did

610
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: clank two free throws. I mean, it is down the stretch.

611
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: All these points matter, and the second one, the officials

612
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: come in and said, oh no, no, okay, season the lane.

613
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna reshoot that one, and he hit it. I

614
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: mean obviously ended up being a big point in the game.

615
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: You win one eleven one ten. Yeah. I thought it

616
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: was a bit of a weird call because it's like

617
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: there's like ten guys that felt like in the lane,

618
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: like everybody was a violation. Yeah, And even Breen was like,

619
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: you can go weeks of watching the NBA and they'll

620
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: never call that. So just strange that they did. Huh.

621
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had a take on it,

622
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: you thought it was the right call.

623
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, well, maybe maybe they had a make up call,

624
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: because I think what I was referring to actually was

625
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: when it was like twenty three seconds left, when the

626
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: ball went out of bounce.

627
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that one.

628
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ball went off of Pascal Siakam.

629
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, his back was on the ground when he touched it.

630
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: And Cason Walls kind of pushed him. Yeah, but they

631
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: didn't call Cason Walls for the free or for the foul.

632
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: So maybe that's a makeup call. Possibly, But I liked

633
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: how they didn't call that. It's just like guys are

634
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: going to hit each other, and it definitely was off

635
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam. Although I love Pascal Siakam's face was great, great,

636
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: So I like how they didn't make that call. And Okay,

637
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: see had another shot, another opportunity. Like I just said,

638
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: she gave it to Jalen the first time that eventually

639
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: went out of bounds. Then she had another opportunity and

640
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: missed the guy was miraculous, But we all focus on

641
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: the stuff that was late. I think throughout the game,

642
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: all I was taking notes was Caruso's help block was

643
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: freaking phenomenal. I mean there's smart plays by like Cason

644
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Wallas grabbing Haliburton's arm as he streaks down the lane

645
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: to try and get a pass, but because Kason Wallacy

646
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: yanked them, Halburton didn't get There's just it's it's overshadowed

647
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: all the great defensive plays that the Thunder made, especially Caruso.

648
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: It goes goes on and on it.

649
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: That's like the beauty of these coaches playing so many guys. Yeah,

650
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: I think it's like this high level defense or at

651
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: least effort, right, because they just come in waves and

652
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: they play so many guys. That's like that starts to

653
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: wane as a game goes on when you have these

654
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: coaches and we've seen teams that like play their guys

655
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: forty forty five minutes. Well, like, I mean, something's gonna

656
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: fall off, Like you're gonna lose some energy, specially you

657
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: usually lose it on the defensive end first. But we

658
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: don't really have that case because so many guys are

659
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: both really good defenders or at least give a damn

660
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: and put an effort, and then like everybody's sort of

661
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: fresh when they keep coming in in these ways didn't

662
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: we have a Rick Carlo did the old like hockey

663
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: lineup switch.

664
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: He did.

665
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: He took five guys off, five guys in let's go, yeah,

666
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: jump over the boards.

667
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: This is a team, man. And when you're going through

668
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: all of Halburton's game winners and how he's able to

669
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: do it, I go back to just who this guy is.

670
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: And he was a number twelve pick and he wasn't

671
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: the guy to take over. He wasn't gonna be a

672
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: superstar that needed to shoot all the time. And the

673
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: way that Rick Carlos says, five guys come on in

674
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: and game one one of the NBA Finals and it works,

675
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean the guys that he plays the same for

676
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: the other side, on Dagnaut's side, I mean they go

677
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: deep as well.

678
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah A J Mitchell, you called that too. We're gonna

679
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: see Mitchell, are we. Yeah? We saw him early.

680
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play all that well, so they yanked

681
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: him and he didn't come back right, And.

682
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: We started the second quarter with two starters on the floor.

683
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: That's sort of crazy when you think about it, from

684
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: both teams, from both teams, of the ten guys out there,

685
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: only two of them were starters. It was Sakham and

686
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: J Doe were the only guys out there at that point.

687
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Everybody else is from the bench.

688
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: I thought we'd see more Kenrich Williams. Why wasn't Mudflap

689
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: out there?

690
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a lot for him. Yeah, any other you know,

691
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: game takeaways, big picture takeaways. We'll get to random notes

692
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and have some things to say about the broadcast in particular.

693
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, I mean that's going

694
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: to take a while, so I think we should just

695
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: go to that.

696
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we can go to that, because obviously

697
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: we just hope these games are like this Game one.

698
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: There'll be a special.

699
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: Man, There'll be some basketball time even in these random notes.

700
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen, baby.

701
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: All right, JD. Let's do it random notes, Random Yeah.

702
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: I want to start by talking about the lack of

703
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: Finals pageantry, h with this broadcast. What is the NBA?

704
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: What is ABC doing here? A lot of people on

705
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Twitter pointing out and I think rightfully, so if you

706
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: just turn this on and looked at it, besides the

707
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: little gold accents on the score bugs from ABC, you

708
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: would have no clue that this is really an NBA

709
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Finals game.

710
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: You wouldn't that's a good point.

711
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: There's the lob dcal on the stanchion which you can

712
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: barely see, yep, and that's sort of it. And I

713
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: know they have like a patch on the back of

714
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: their jerseys, but not on the front because that's where

715
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: we gotta put the sponsors. This is weird. This is

716
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: like really really strange. Back in the day, of course,

717
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: we had the big Larry O'Brien dcal at center court.

718
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: It looked awesome. I have no idea what we went

719
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: why we went away from this. We had it for

720
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: like five or six years. Okay, it's gone. Where people

721
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: slipping on it? Is that the issue? Okay? Whatever. Then

722
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the league brought back remember that cool final script from

723
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: back in the day. I remember we used to have it.

724
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: They went to like really basic, ugly, generic ones. It

725
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: was like, bring back that cool final script. So they did,

726
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: and that was on the floor at times. That's nowhere

727
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: to be seen. And then also on top of this,

728
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: we're get no player intros, we get no anthem, we

729
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: get no real hype videos. Again, it just feels like

730
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: a Saturday night game on ABC in March, and that's

731
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: not what they should be doing. It's really perplexing how

732
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: much they just mail it in and how little they

733
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: like lean into the to the moment until like again,

734
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: like making this a really big deal, like a regular

735
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw is Monday Night Raw. Then watch WrestleMania.

736
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, within five seconds of watching it, Oh, this

737
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: is special. This is the big game. Same thing with

738
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Why why are we Why are they

739
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: doing this?

740
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: It's a fair question. I don't know why. I don't

741
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: know why. They just don't put Larry O'Brien back at

742
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: center court. Now. It doesn't have to be a monster,

743
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to do put it somewhere. Well, I

744
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: would put it as an extension if you want. Okay,

745
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: see in this instance, being the logo and being exactly

746
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: like it was, all you kind of have to do

747
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: is put Larry under it a little bit, like at

748
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: least something there. It doesn't have to be huge.

749
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: We don't even need it actually on the floor. If

750
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: we're so concerned about guys slipping, put it in virtually

751
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: for the millions of us watching.

752
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a line just on center court, in that

753
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: line in between the logo and the sideline, like under it,

754
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: yeah something.

755
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: Put something, yeah, or I was thinking even this is again,

756
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: I like that ABC with the score bug they lean

757
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: into like the gold right, Okay, that at least is

758
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: something and it's a nice little touch. Why don't we

759
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: do that with if they don't want to put a

760
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: giant lob decal, make the Okklahoma City thunder logo, like

761
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: make it gold right, like like lean into that. Do

762
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: the same thing when we go to Indiana.

763
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: Some gold accents.

764
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just give it something so we know that

765
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: this is a little bit different. This is like the

766
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: most important games of the year.

767
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: You're right, it is odd that it's hiding on the stanchion.

768
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's kind of not there. You don't really

769
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: see it. No, I saw it, and I.

770
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Tell you, people didn't even know it's on there. No.

771
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: I saw it and the athletic slack as it was happening,

772
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: and people were pointing out a Saraman Zach Harper pointing

773
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: out that it's on the stanchion, and I was watching.

774
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't even notice that it was there. Totally,

775
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I guess the other So there are two things. Yeah,

776
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: make it a little bit more glamorous, and it would

777
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: be nice to have the intros.

778
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: No exactly, NBC, they better give us the interest. And

779
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know who's going to have the finals.

780
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: I think maybe it still sticks with the ESPNS.

781
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, because they're talking about Doris not

782
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: being there next year, it must be ESPN.

783
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: It's just so weird.

784
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: Potentially not being there is hyped. Yeah, yeah for commercials in.

785
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: That ye, the answer is always going to be because

786
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: we need more money from our commercials.

787
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: And that's and that's why watching the NBA app in

788
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: game arena is awesome because you get to watch it.

789
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: The atmosphere, oh yeah, you do, you do, and some

790
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: arenas are so good, and the whoever's controlling the audio,

791
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: they just know how to pump it pump good music

792
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 2: and it's just fun. Yeah, you feel it. You feel

793
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: it way more like you're sort of at a playoff game.

794
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: It was like a bigger deal. It should because it is. Yeah,

795
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: but again, you wouldn't really know that last night watching

796
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: it on ABC like I did, like like the crowd,

797
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: it's amazing, but it's like nothing visually, nothing of the hype,

798
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: nothing Like you're just like, oh, this is just another

799
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: game that's not what we should be having. That's like

800
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: you're not selling your league very well in my opinion.

801
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you can't really hear the fans the

802
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: same way as if you were in the building. You know,

803
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: it's not the same. Although they have great fans, and

804
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: that was the only why I'm bringing up because that

805
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: was the only thing that makes you feel like, Okay,

806
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: they're standing out. These fans are awesome. I try and

807
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: make the sound as good as I can. In my house,

808
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: I put whatever a little surround speakers I got. I'm

809
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: there with my hands connecting this orange and red wire.

810
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: But I want to hear it. I want to hear everything,

811
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: and I want to turn it up. But a lot

812
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: of the time it's not conveyed. It's just it doesn't

813
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: translate because sometimes the audio levels you can't hear the Yeah,

814
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: but I just want to Yeah, I would love to

815
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: hear the intro sounds, the interest and.

816
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: You want to hear I want to be able to

817
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: mute the TV and know it's an NBA Finals game. Yeah,

818
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: And you'd be hard pressed to do that last night.

819
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, visually, the visual aid would be nice.

820
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: And a lot of people pointing this out. I know

821
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: our guy Mike workanoff at the athletic I saw him

822
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: tweet it. It's odd that the NBA puts so much

823
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: into making the NBA Cup so distinct visually that those

824
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: games look more distinct than the NBA Finals.

825
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was definitely thinking that, as you said,

826
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: as you were talking about WrestleMania. Yeah, the fact that

827
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: they make one sort of tournament thing. Yeah, it is word,

828
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: the entire court is different. Why they don't do a

829
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit different?

830
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, kissed me off. Yeah, Actually, JD come back to me.

831
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: You were on me there for a second. Look at

832
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: this hat. Shout out to CJ Toldano this is the hat.

833
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson was asking for this hat on Twitter last night.

834
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: And for those that don't know, was he for you

835
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: podcast listeners? Put the Larry O'Brian trophy back on the

836
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: finals court?

837
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

838
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, follow through great hat.

839
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the Larry O'Brien here in the studio.

840
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: It was great.

841
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: The actual trophy yeah yeah, yeah.

842
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: The actual trophy. It's got it. It's there's a new

843
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: version of it. Obviously, it's not just this shiny ball,

844
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: you know it. It's got the grus on it, so

845
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: much more fun. CJ told Donald's totally right. They gotta

846
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: do it. Congrats to baby number two. Yeah, what else

847
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: is there saying it's unfortunate visually it's not there. Yes,

848
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: I will say one basketball thing also that I was

849
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: upset by Caruso hacked Pascal Siakam. Do you remember early

850
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: on and they and Cruso calling for the video let's

851
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: see it, and the broadcasters saying, why is he calling

852
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: for the video? Is a clear foul, But he did

853
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 2: hit the ball first. I'm just wondering, am I seeing?

854
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Am I seeing the same thing as am I going nuts?

855
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: They didn't mention for one second at all that Cruso

856
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: did touch basketball and then he then hit on and

857
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: wore arms, which totally true. But r J knows, Doris

858
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: knows say something about hitting the ball. That's all I

859
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: That's all I wanted. And that was a quick one there.

860
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a clip we have to play for you.

861
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: It was making the rounds Halliburton on Sports Center last

862
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: night with SVP after the game, and we're gonna play

863
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: it sound up for everybody here on YouTube and the

864
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: podcast listeners. Pay close attention to Halliburton's voice. Here's the

865
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: thing is like, we've had to win in so many

866
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: different ways all year. We've had so many weird wins,

867
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: turn the regular season, turned the playoffs.

868
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: So with that change, because we're here in the finals,

869
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: it's not it's not changing.

870
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: So uh me only just keeps saying at it and

871
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: just keep believing and uh you know that's the result

872
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: we get.

873
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: So this is something that's come up a million times before.

874
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: This guy's like voice changing yeah while he's talking.

875
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

876
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: And Karl Anthony Towns is a culprit with this as well,

877
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: but this one is like one of the best ever

878
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: because he's talking about changing while his voice then changes. Yeah,

879
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: it goes completely different and then sort of comes back

880
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: to where it was.

881
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's when I jump over to my speakers and

882
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: I say, my speakers.

883
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Are affed up, Danny, did you touch this? Halliburton's voice

884
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: is going weird.

885
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Come on, it is crazy. It's like, is he doing it?

886
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: It feels like he's doing a purpose at times because

887
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: he's done it so many times. But he can't be No,

888
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just sock.

889
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: It's just him. It's just don't I don't even know

890
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: if it's a tick. I wouldn't even call it that,

891
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: and it happens to him.

892
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: This is great.

893
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: I think Spike Eskin tweeted, Halliburton's voice sounds like he's

894
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: on a broken cassette player that keeps changing speeds while

895
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: you're playing it. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's so so weird. Yeah,

896
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: another moment last night, we got another Rick spit. We

897
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: got a hell of a shot from the ABC crew

898
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: with Rick. Watch this one. He's getting it ready, getting

899
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: the flem going, He's forming it. Where's my cup?

900
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Let me spit, Let me spit?

901
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Jesus Murphy.

902
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: I was expecting it to be more, to be honest

903
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: build up.

904
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wow, this is like our third or fourth

905
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: Rick spits.

906
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we've been debating, you know, is he putting

907
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: dip in there? Is it a kdyak? You know what's

908
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: going on there. But we did have one of our

909
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: fans chime in.

910
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: And this is a thing that he does, This is

911
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: the thing.

912
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: Over the years. But the fan actually did the research.

913
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this is our new weggie is it?

914
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Literally? This is no joke. I have some info on

915
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: the Rick Carlisle spitting situation for you. It's actually kind

916
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: of uncanny that you all have started talking about this

917
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: topic because my wife, a Pacers fan, and I have

918
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: been on this beat for about a year. Last spring,

919
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 2: for her birthday, we sat immediately behind the PACER's bench

920
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: for a road game. Awesome experience, best seats we've ever

921
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: had to an NBA game. The sounds and insights of

922
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: sitting down low are completely different. However, we both came

923
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: away with one impression that we couldn't wait to talk

924
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: about upon getting in the car. Rick is pretty mucusy.

925
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Huh.

926
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: The man is spinning, snorting, picking, and wiping. All came long. Wow,

927
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: what they changed his spit his spit cup out at halftime.

928
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: Other guys on the bench like Myles are big into

929
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: the candy and gums, but not Rick. He's all natural

930
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 2: American flamm So yeah, spitting, snorting, picking, and wiping.

931
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've just come hip to Yeah, this really is

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: our new edgie tracker dot com. We've had no edgies

933
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: for like forty days. So now we just keep our

934
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: eye on Rick spitting and they keep showing us. And

935
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: that was the best one yet. Yeah, and it's nice

936
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: people are now like tweeting us immediately getting it on Instagram.

937
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Rick Spitt first quarter six twenty duly noted, sir, I

938
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: saw it. Hell, thank you.

939
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: We just showed that to you on YouTube, but we

940
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: won't show you is a man I guess he works

941
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: for the Oklahoma City thunder has having his credential on

942
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: his chest, and you're not supposed to have your credential

943
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: just showing anywhere.

944
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: No, Trey was good last night.

945
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: His name was Randy Hall. I could see it clearly, Randy.

946
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: All right, listen, Randy, congrats. I wanted to see who

947
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: it was and you could clearly see his name. The photo,

948
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: the whole thing's just But anyway, that's all we will

949
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: show to you here. But if you want to go

950
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: back to the broadcast, you can check it out. But

951
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: either way you're supposed to kind of put in your pocket.

952
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: But what does a person to do? They want to get,

953
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: they want to get.

954
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: Actually drives me nuts. This, like, Okay, if you're on TV,

955
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: make sure you're your badge isn't showing. Who cares? What

956
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: are people gonna do? What? What are well, it's gonna happen.

957
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: They're going to be able to take a photo of it.

958
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Copy it, Yeah, from my from my YouTube or television

959
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: screen and copy it and make it and then what

960
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: changed my face to look like Randy Hall? What well

961
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: photos on it?

962
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: When you're sixteen years old. I use my friend Vladimir's

963
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 2: fake ID to get into bars or whatever. So it's

964
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: just a similar sort of thing. You get to see

965
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: where Randy Hall is able to go. It says all

966
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: these letters, you know, c F F g R, wherever

967
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: he can get into the back for press and all

968
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So yeah, we always hear it

969
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: at Summer Lead. We always hear it throughout the finals.

970
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Our man Warren will say, hey, put that thing away.

971
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: For whatever reason.

972
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: I would like to think that security at Game one

973
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals is a little tighter than firking

974
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: on Young Street or whatever the sports bar you're trying to.

975
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Get into.

976
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Just a little. But maybe not because they are God,

977
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: They're they're hardcore about Yeah, you put put that away,

978
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: You put that away. Don't let them see that on TV.

979
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Maybe you need to have them out more because I've

980
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: been watching again, I've been watching after the John Halburton

981
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: can't come court side, had the flashback of Massi u

982
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Jerie getting pushed when he went to go celebrate the

983
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: championship in twenty nineteen by the officer. He pushed him

984
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: and MASSI didn't have the badge or the credential out.

985
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: He had to kind of tucked away, so you have

986
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: to pull it out and show it to him. So

987
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe if the cop sees it, he

988
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: doesn't push him.

989
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: Whatever.

990
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: Just it's fine. It's totally fine. I don't see a

991
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: problem with it either. What I do see a problem

992
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: with is they continuously played David Geta's Bulletproof and okay, see,

993
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I do like watching the in game arena experience on

994
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: my TV, but I'm tired of hearing right now. Then

995
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: you lose five away. It's like they played every game,

996
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: and I thought, if they played in the fourth quarter

997
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: like this is our this is our anthem, if it's.

998
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Like we're going to win this thing, maybe switch it

999
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: up one a lot.

1000
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works.

1001
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're gonna find out the ratings

1002
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: for game one and how quickly they turned that around.

1003
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: But I was thinking, in watching this game and how

1004
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: many people are and they should because holy crap, what

1005
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: a game one that they should count dogs watching the game. Yeah,

1006
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a stoner thought, for sure,

1007
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: But I was thinking, like I was like, how many

1008
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: dogs are watching Game one in the NBA Finals right now? Like,

1009
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: let's I don't even know what the number would be.

1010
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. But anyway, Luna

1011
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: was well, Luna was in the room while I was watching.

1012
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: We have a photo here. She couldn't really care less

1013
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: of what was going on, but she was comfy though,

1014
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: wasn't She usually her bed as a pillow. The power

1015
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: move from sweet Luna. But somebody on the stream seat,

1016
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: how many dogs do you think watched Game one in

1017
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: the That's what I'm gonna do when we get like, oh,

1018
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: inevitably low ratings, I'm going to try and respond to

1019
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: retweet I see with yeah, but how many dogs were watching?

1020
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: And just see what reaction you get to that.

1021
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: Yana Hazel is obsessed with balls, so right she watches,

1022
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: She'll actually, yeah, she's into it.

1023
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Okay, good.

1024
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: It's a good callback to the cold open as well.

1025
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe Jad picked that. And then my final

1026
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: random note random is you know we keep talking about

1027
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers being like this team of destiny, maybe like

1028
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: holy crap, how do they keep doing this, these comebacks.

1029
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: How do they keep pulling out these victories? And I'm

1030
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: wondering if we had something to do with it. JD.

1031
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: We did go to Paris and we did see the

1032
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers play the San Antonio Spurst twice and I

1033
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: did wear a full Indiana Pacers get up full uniform

1034
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: during the game I played, and where I just said

1035
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of French words and there's a our guy

1036
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: y on Mahimi there still making me look like a

1037
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: small child. The shorts a lot I have. I'll admit

1038
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: to not wear the jersey, but I like the shorts

1039
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: very comfortable. But I don't know, Like this was January, JD.

1040
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: And this is when the Pacers like became the Pacers.

1041
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: And they were the villains there.

1042
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: They weren't the villains there. And uh, you know I

1043
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: won that game I played in Team Pacers won.

1044
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: In spite of Yon.

1045
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: In spite of Yon.

1046
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: Yes, Colin everything guy.

1047
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Was really added out for me. Here's the ref, right,

1048
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he was the ref. I was getting a bad whistle,

1049
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: but we still want didn't matter And yeah, anyway, I'm

1050
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: just saying, hey, we have a small part in this.

1051
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: If they're going to win the title. I just like,

1052
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: like an invite to the parade is all I'm saying.

1053
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: That's all we asked.

1054
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I'll wear the full get up and people will think

1055
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm TJ McConnell as. I get a lot of that

1056
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: from that photo. Anyway, you got anything.

1057
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: Else, No, Well, I will just say lou Dort running

1058
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: through screens I find amazing because he doesn't even know

1059
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: what's coming sometimes and he just was able to penetrate it.

1060
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: He just he's such a truck or transformer or whatever

1061
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: you want to call him. He's just so strong and

1062
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't see it coming, but he's able to go

1063
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 2: through it.

1064
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: But then sometimes just decides to like take pretend like

1065
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: he was shot at I have a bullet. That's the

1066
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: weirdest thing with him.

1067
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he doesn't when he doesn't know what's coming,

1068
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: he can't flop right right, But he's so strong and

1069
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: so able to go through it. So somebody should put

1070
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: those together. I think it's just fun to watch him again,

1071
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: like I don't know what's coming, I'm just running to

1072
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: the side, and he's so so much like a truck or.

1073
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of got popped by picks. Last night,

1074
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: Benedict Mathrin took one. Nobody called out that one. Yeah,

1075
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: he like hurt his shoulder. I think Caruso got laid

1076
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: out once. Like you know, they were like high out

1077
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: there on the floor and people weren't talking enough. Maybe

1078
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: it's too loud with those damn fan clapper things that

1079
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear each other saying laugh right whatever, this

1080
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: guy's got crushed on a couple.

1081
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am surprised. Apparently they do turn up the

1082
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: volume in Okay, see, I mean turn up the volume

1083
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: and audio wise, they just literally like a little bit

1084
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: of fan you know, just audio just like they turn

1085
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: up the volume. They just literally play but.

1086
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: You mean volume as and turn up the music or

1087
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: turn up like fake fans.

1088
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, fake fans, i'd say, whoa, yeah, how do you know? Well,

1089
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: it came through in the slack. I do want to

1090
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: make sure it wasn't music that they turn up, but

1091
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: it came through on our athletic slack that volume turned up,

1092
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: which it doesn't seem like you would need it at all.

1093
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: And at this arena, Well, I'm gonna double check as

1094
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: you bring in their next topic.

1095
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: I well, I mean I don't have anything else randomly

1096
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: or really from the game. I'm just hype for Game

1097
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: two that Sunday night. We will all be back here

1098
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory on Monday to break down Game two.

1099
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: The guys are headed back from Okay see, so we

1100
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: won't have an immediate reaction pod on on Sunny and

1101
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: we'll see if, like OKAC can do what they've done

1102
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: many times in this postseason. They're four no after losses,

1103
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: so they've always come back with a win. They've averaged

1104
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: in those games a victory of like twenty and a

1105
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: half points, so they usually beat downs they come back.

1106
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: They haven't. You know, they lost consecutive games twice during

1107
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: the regular season, like they almost never do, so you know,

1108
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: but it's it feels like sort of a must win.

1109
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: Not that they can't win on the road because they're

1110
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: really good, but you know, it's that Game two situation

1111
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: where you're down one oh, and the Pacers have put

1112
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: a lot of teams already in this postseason in this

1113
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: position and a couple times taking a too o lead.

1114
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: So I can't wait for Sunday.

1115
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: Night, Absolutely not. And Okay sees fans will be bumping

1116
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: whether or not this artificial sound or not. I'm not sure.

1117
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't want to

1118
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: spread that misinformation, but I do love Okay Sees fans,

1119
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: and I liked how Adam Silver, actually, who did his

1120
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: pregame media session, talked about all these ratings the whole

1121
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: Hey are enough people watching and how people say it

1122
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: to him on the street if they see Adam Silver,

1123
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: what's going on with the ratings? He says. The goal

1124
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: is that market size essentially becomes irrelevant, is the whole goal.

1125
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 2: And you know, he looks that the way technological changes

1126
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: have changed the meeting of the differential from one city

1127
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: to another doesn't really matter. He says, Yeah, there's seven

1128
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people in Okay, see nine hundred thousand people

1129
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, so not small markets. But even if there

1130
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: were another million people or so in a city, when

1131
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: you're talking to a global market that sport like the NBA,

1132
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: when you're being followed by billions of people around the world,

1133
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: those incremental changes become pretty meaningless. Doesn't matter, That's what

1134
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: he's saying.

1135
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: In the end, stop asking Silver about rating and start

1136
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: asking him about why don't we have the Larry O'Brien

1137
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: trophy on the damn floor of the finals. Start doing that, everybody. Yeah,

1138
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: people will get them to do it.

1139
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: The game is super popular and now that we're watching

1140
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: it's streamed. He just feels like the game is getting bigger,

1141
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Like it's getting bigger in Europe, like when you're playing

1142
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: with Jan Mahemi and it really doesn't matter, but it

1143
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: does matter if you do know that it's the NBA Finals. Yeah,

1144
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: I do agree of a visual and some sort.

1145
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: Of pumps up. Find one person that disagrees with this,

1146
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: Like take that again. Everybody on Twitter was making last

1147
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: make us know it's the NBA Finals, lean into it.

1148
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: I immediately think fanfare, glamour, pageantry.

1149
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it does.

1150
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess nobody's going to say no, no, we don't

1151
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: want that.

1152
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: No, they're not the soccer do it would be the question,

1153
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: because that's that's what Adam Silver loves. But I guess,

1154
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: you know, when the World Cup is happening.

1155
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: I would say the World Cup sort of goes over

1156
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: the top in terms of their presentation for big, big games.

1157
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Once you move on in the World Cup.

1158
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, in soccer and nash and leagues, I guess maybe

1159
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter. We're here the NBA.

1160
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: It should be we should we should know, we should know.

1161
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: Larry's being played for. It's a great trophy. It's great

1162
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: to touch here in the in the factory. I put

1163
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: it out there, Just put it out there.

1164
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: We're not asking for much here, sover, come on, all right,

1165
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: before we go. It is the drop, it is Friday,

1166
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: so let's have some rapid fire fun. I got the

1167
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: questions you guys will answer, will answer with you, because

1168
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: there's only three of us here in studio today. First one.

1169
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, Adidas unveiled the hardened Volume nine J

1170
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: dub colorway. As you can see, Jad's gonna throw up here.

1171
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: The Kicks draw inspiration from Jalen Williams's favorite nineties cartoon,

1172
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Pinky in the Brain God. I loved that cartoon. It

1173
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: features a white upper contrasted by lucid lime, lucid pink.

1174
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: Quite the colors here. So my question for you guys,

1175
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: what other cartoon inspired sneakers would you like to see?

1176
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: Tests Well, I'm going quite literal because the Tasmanian Devil

1177
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: is what I'm often called. Like Silvers asked about ratings

1178
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: I'm asked about the Tasmanian Devil or people you know

1179
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: collate my name with the Tasmanian devil. Why can't you

1180
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: just put Tasmanian Devil on the side of shoes. I

1181
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: think it would make me play harder. If I happen

1182
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: to look down and I see whoa that thing, that

1183
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: cartoon that's able to spin, I would play harder. So

1184
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: get the Tasmanian Devil on some shoes.

1185
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Do they exist?

1186
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1187
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like they might have to. Yeah,

1188
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: but they can look like everything's been put on a

1189
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: shoe at this yea, but.

1190
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: I still can look cooler like the Harden.

1191
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: J do you like those shoes by the way, the

1192
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: color way, they're like not his signature shoe. They are hardens,

1193
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: but they're like his pees, Like yeah, I think they

1194
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: look all right. I actually don't mind them pink. Like

1195
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: if I had shown you those, would you've been able

1196
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: to say, oh, those are pinky?

1197
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: In the brain, I'd say like buzz late years yeah yeah.

1198
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, JD, what other cartoon inspired sneakers would you

1199
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: like to see?

1200
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I was gonna say ThunderCats, and then I

1201
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: googled ThunderCats, and there's already a shoe. Yeah, there's a

1202
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: there's just every there's a shoe for everything. But I

1203
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: love the red and black, like the logo, the Thundercat's logo,

1204
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: just the cat. You know, yeah, it looks awesome. But

1205
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: then I thought, uh, you know, I worked on a

1206
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: show called Cayu, and back in the day when I

1207
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: was working on it, you know, I would say, oh,

1208
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: I work on a show called Cayu, and parents would

1209
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 3: be like, you son of a bitch, they hate that show.

1210
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: But now I say I work on I worked on Kyu,

1211
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: and people are like, I love that show. I love

1212
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: that show growing up. You know, they're kids who are

1213
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: adults now. So maybe a cay show shoe.

1214
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what does that even look like.

1215
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's a sandal really because he's bald, right,

1216
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: so you have your big toes sticking out representing his head.

1217
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: But you know, red, like very primary colors, like red, blue.

1218
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: I think there's a yellow in there. He wears like

1219
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 3: a red shirt and blue shorts.

1220
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh this guy, yeah, Cayu c A I L l

1221
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: o U.

1222
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, French Canadian.

1223
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, he's very colorful.

1224
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, also had a pink panther. You know, pink is

1225
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: great on a shoe, and I don't think there's a

1226
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: pink panther shoe that's shocking there was. Yeah, I like that.

1227
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: I do like the ThunderCats. I had that in my

1228
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: notes as well. Remember that clip we found a Sean Marion,

1229
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: how horny he was for But I'll go with we

1230
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: need some teenage mutant ninja Peardles yaka Purtle needs his

1231
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: own shoe and it needs to be teenage mutant Ninja

1232
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Turtle inspired, and I think he could really lean into it.

1233
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Every quarter wears a different colorway. Yeah, one orange for Michelangelo,

1234
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Rafael Red Tellow, purple, Leonardo blue, you know, whatever order

1235
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: you want to do it. But he could swap them

1236
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: in and out teenage mutant ninja purtles. All right. Next one.

1237
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Doris Burke's spot on ESPN's lead NBA broadcasting team is

1238
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: not guaranteed for next season, according to our own Andrew

1239
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: marchand ESPN executives will debate if they feel Doris Burke

1240
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: is better on a two person team as opposed to

1241
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: a three person team, so we'll see. My question though,

1242
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: is when is having less of something a good idea.

1243
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: When you go to a buffet, Oh okay, Oh yeah.

1244
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: I see all the trays and I think I'm gonna

1245
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: eat from all of them. And what I ended up

1246
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: doing every single time is I probably take from like

1247
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: half of them. I sit down and then I get

1248
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: up and I think, okay, time to get the other

1249
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: one too. I'm almost too full to actually do it.

1250
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh. I thought you were gonna say you enjoyed the

1251
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: ones you had so much that you're like, well, I

1252
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: might as well just get more of that, because I

1253
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: know I've done that too.

1254
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, I go both ways. Yeah, sometimes I

1255
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: take too much of everything. Sometimes I just stop after

1256
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: that first one. Sometimes I will just get a dessert,

1257
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: call it a day. So you think there's just two,

1258
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: there's a way too many.

1259
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to take it all in.

1261
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the buffet is good, it's a good buffet.

1262
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of variety and a lot it's all good.

1263
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: But he's almost saying the opposite to him, Really good

1264
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: buffet has less options. I know it sounds contradictory, but

1265
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: maybe he's right. I sort of.

1266
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: Agree with Yeah, it all changes, it's all. It all

1267
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: depends on the place. But even still not every trade.

1268
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: You're not gonna love every tray.

1269
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: Right. The problem is the buffet is like it has

1270
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: to have a million things because it wants to please everyone.

1271
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: Exactly what we're asking for is just a personalized buddy.

1272
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, which you can do. What you can do.

1273
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: You just picked the foods you.

1274
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: Want just to sit down and don't worry about the

1275
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: other one.

1276
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, that's how do you do it?

1277
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the last buffet I was at, I

1278
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: had sushi and prime rib on my plate at the

1279
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: same time.

1280
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: Wow, Georgia.

1281
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: This was in Mexico.

1282
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: Actually, I take it back. I feel like Atlanta is

1283
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Speaker 2: similar that we do the fusion. You know, they're trying

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00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: and they spread themselves a little too thin, right right? Yeah,

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: remember the.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was a breakfast buffet that we did

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00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: in Vegas the one time.

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Speaker 3: How could I forget?

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00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: And it was like eighty dollars Yeah.

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: And we didn't even finish because it was the day

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00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: Lebron left the Calves, was it really? Yeah, when we

1292
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: were all like got up and we left.

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: Like we basically had like one plate of just no.

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Speaker 1: I remember I had a legit normal breakfast, yeah, and

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: a couple pieces of bacon, some eggs, some toast yep,

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Speaker 1: and then we left and got Holy Lebron.

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Speaker 3: I think he was leaving Calves, right, was he going to.

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Speaker 1: Yea?

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Speaker 2: Yeah fourteen Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What was that place called? Yeah, it's still there, I think.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who.

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: Okay j D. When is having less of something a

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01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: good idea? Oh?

1304
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: You know, uh stories, you know, I mean, leave ship

1305
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: out of stories, take out stuff, leave things to the imagination.

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01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: What comes to mind is the Russian guy in uh,

1307
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: the Sopranos. Remember that episode where Polly and Chris are

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: chasing a Russian mobster. Yeah, Pine Barrens. They shoot him.

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Speaker 1: That's like an iconic episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he disappears, never explained. You think, oh,

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: this guy is gonna come back. He worked for his

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: uh salva, the the other guy, the Russian version percussion

1313
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: to this something's going to happen. We just never found out.

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: People debate to this day.

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Speaker 3: What happened to that guy?

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: And you like that?

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: I like it. They did that a lot in The Sopranos.

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Speaker 3: Just sometimes things don't get explained. You got to live

1319
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: with it. The ending. Everybody's like wondering what happened with

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: the ending? I love the ending because we're still talking

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: about right.

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what about like Polar Bears on the Island

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: and Lost?

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, what the hell is going on?

1325
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: Ye, and like never explained from what I can remember

1326
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: with the old Dharma initiative.

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: It's a great point. But also the Lost was a

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: great ride, you know, I mean ultimately gives a shit

1329
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 3: about the Polar Bears.

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: It was weird and cool.

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01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it's like, wait, what is it doing there?

1332
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know gets the people going. When you were

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: saying stories, I literally thought you meant Instagram stories. I

1334
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: thought you were like, yeah, everybody that has, Like when

1335
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: I go to your page and it's got like the

1336
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: tiniest little dots because there's like a hundred stories like

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01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: coming out, which also.

1338
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: Is true, not mo Verney stories, less Verne stories.

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01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: It's been pretty quiet, great answers. My answer for this

1340
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: is when when is having less something a good idea?

1341
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Generally songs on an album, Okay, you like most albums,

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 1: no matter how great an album is. Yeah, you got

1343
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: like two or three.

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01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: That you don't need it a double album yet, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah.

1345
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: I want an album. I want it between fifty minutes

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: and one hundred and an hour ten and I want

1347
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: you know what's honestly, I do want a sub hour

1348
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: yeah album and I want to you know what's twelve

1349
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: songs max?

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01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

1351
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: I would say ten, yeah, exactly, you know what?

1352
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: Twelve too many? Eight wow? Yeah?

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, cut the fat wow and maximum three minutes each song?

1354
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, most songs. There are songs. You can make an

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01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: exception for it.

1356
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're real Matt Austin, just trimming the fast.

1357
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. Yeah, when you said fifty minutes

1358
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: to an hour tense too long?

1359
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just shortening fifty minutes, I think is a

1360
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: really nice sweet spot if it's a good album, of course,

1361
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: but there's so many that it's like long. Yeah, it

1362
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be Yeah, all right, final one here.

1363
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: We had a viral video yesterday on TikTok, which was

1364
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: hilarious timing because I was like just saying, hey, we're

1365
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: not doing well on TikTok, but Trey asking other Thunder

1366
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: players to finish chet Holmgren's phrase fifty four from trade

1367
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: ball is and then he was asking all the guys

1368
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: to finish it. The answer is Odie shooting Hank pulls.

1369
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: Of course hit over two hundred and fifty thousand on

1370
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: the Tiki Talk. So we're back, baby, back in the algorithm.

1371
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: All we had to do was speak to the younger generation,

1372
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, speaking this weird language. Fifty four from trade

1373
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: Ball is ODI shooting hand poles. So off of that,

1374
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: I want to know what's a slang word or phrase

1375
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: task that we should try to incorporate in our next

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: social video keep the numbers flowing on TikTok.

1377
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: Well, this is how the video is produced. I go

1378
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: around asking people what's forty three plus twenty four, and

1379
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: then they do the math and they say sixty seven,

1380
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: And everybody is doing this thing where it looks like

1381
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: they're juggling.

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

1383
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: I said this the other day.

1384
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: I still don't totally understand, but it has something to

1385
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: do with the answer. The answer is the sixty seven

1386
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: has to do with Lamello's forty three card, Like the

1387
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: number of the four of the card is forty three,

1388
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know what card Panini cards. Oh,

1389
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: I think I don't know. This could this could be

1390
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: a Google Gemini lying to me here, but I think

1391
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: that's what it is, but or maybe not. I don't know.

1392
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't know because people because people answer sixty seven

1393
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: and then the question or the interviewer this blows up.

1394
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: He's like aha and does the juggling motion. I still

1395
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what it means, but it could. It

1396
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: could mean LaMelo something something because he's also sixty seven.

1397
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, or something. Yeah.

1398
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: Well yeah that's a tough one, but people love it.

1399
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: Derrick Rose got asked he did it he knew it. No,

1400
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: he didn't, because he's just answering. Yeah, people doing the math.

1401
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: But what is what does he do when everybody starts juggling?

1402
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: And what does he do? Just go what are you doing?

1403
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1404
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: Ok?

1405
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: And then the guy the interviewer will say, yeah, the

1406
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: sixty seven and I still don't know the answer.

1407
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: Wait, so okay, so you're just tricking somebody into saying

1408
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: six six correct, And then it's like ah, in your face, yes, juggle, juggle.

1409
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Juggle, yes, because sixty seven as a reference is.

1410
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Something right, which we're not.

1411
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Google doesn't do it the

1412
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: proper answer, really, the Google Gemini not an ad because

1413
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm because I'm at York. But it says something about

1414
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: Lamela who knows.

1415
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. We'll try it in our next one. JD.

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: What do you got man? You got young kids?

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01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm the oldest guy in the neighborhood. Like look,

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: I went on to I asked my friend Chad. Gpt

1419
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: ay Chad, And Chad was a neighbor. Yeah, he's my

1420
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 3: friend who helps me out with this kind of stuff.

1421
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: But he gave me ten phrases all right that I

1422
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: don't trust because I know all of them, you know

1423
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I should not know any of

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: these if it's going to be an actual slang that

1425
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: kids are using today, like de lulu riz no cap

1426
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: mid slaps, it's giving that touch grass skibbity that was

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: like a year ago exactly.

1428
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Even Chad hasn't been able to keep

1429
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: up with the lingo of the kids.

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01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: The kids already moved on from these, I know, and

1431
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: Chad is so young, like what two years old? Yeah,

1432
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: I know know. So I'm going to just pick the

1433
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: one that I like the most right now, and it's

1434
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: de Lulu. And I know how old I sound right now,

1435
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: and I hate it. It's very cringe. It's giving old. Fuck.

1436
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: I can't handle it. So yeah, I'm gonna say de

1437
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: Lulu and let's just move on.

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I felt well, I went. I did the

1439
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: whole list too. I'm trying to find one like that.

1440
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: I had no clue what it was, and it was

1441
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was difficult to find one. But I

1442
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: do like the saying ate and left no crumbs. I

1443
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: just like it. I like it. I feel like we

1444
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: can at least maybe even get away with that one.

1445
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: So maybe that will make an appearance in the next one.

1446
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Eat and left no crumbs. That's what you just did

1447
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: on this podcast test.

1448
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: I wish. But that's good.

1449
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: To bring it back to the buffet. I mean, where

1450
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: I leave a lot of crumbs at a buffet, leave

1451
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: it way more than crumbs.

1452
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: That's frowned upon.

1453
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: What in the buffet world? Yeah, I'm sorry, this is

1454
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: the whole point. Let me taste tests that do not

1455
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: like cares. Leave it on the plate, throw it out?

1456
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: Are you taking it home? Are you packing it for yourself?

1457
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: If I dislike it? No, but I hey, look, you

1458
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: know me, I I don't like a lot of food

1459
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: on a plate in general, Like I am like turned

1460
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: off by eating when there's just like too much food.

1461
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving not a great day for me because you see

1462
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: same plates, people load it up. I'm gonna go back.

1463
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back for more.

1464
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: Well yeah, so hold on, you're going back for more,

1465
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: like new items or are you getting a little bit

1466
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: of everything.

1467
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, this looks good. I might try this, but

1468
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: I also I have to admit I like the things

1469
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: I like, So I'm gonna go with my staples. But

1470
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: my point is I'm going small plates, little portions. I'll

1471
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: go back, I'll get up, I'll go back. Hell, I'll

1472
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: use the same plate. Don't do that. They never want

1473
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: you doing that.

1474
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what up with that?

1475
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: It's got to be like a sanitary reason. Yeah, but

1476
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: it's like it's fine, I'll just use the same plate.

1477
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: Me too, me too, I'm the same plate guy. But

1478
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: they don't want you using their.

1479
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Yeah, I guess anyway.

1480
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Ate and left so many crumbs at

1481
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: the buffet.

1482
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: That it works too, right, totally.

1483
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: When you do a horrible job, you just got in

1484
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 3: there and got it, got a lot of crumbs, so

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01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: you still eight, So that's I get this still all right?

1486
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: Let's call it there, Dear Lord, that was rapid fire

1487
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: dot so rapid, but hopefully that was another classic edition

1488
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: here of the podcast. You tell us did we eat

1489
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: and leave no crumbs? Do so by hitting the like button,

1490
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: by subscribing, by leaving us a five star rating, or

1491
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: review what an awesome game last night? Let to start

1492
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. Let's hear your thoughts on it.

1493
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: Let's hear you how I think this series is going

1494
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: to go now?

1495
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 3: You know, have you can?

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Speaker 1: Have you flipped? You think the Pacers can do maybe

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Speaker 1: the impossible as big big underdogs and winnesting? Or do

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Speaker 1: you think the thunder will take back control and you know,

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Speaker 1: still win it in whatever five, six or seven. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear from you. Let's hear other things maybe we missed,

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Speaker 1: and let's get your opinions on the presentation from ABC

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Speaker 1: slash NBA when it comes to the finals. Interested to

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Speaker 1: hear people's takes on that as well. Absolutely until Monday

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Speaker 1: morning when we'll be here in the Classic Factory to

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Speaker 1: talk about Game two.

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Speaker 3: Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 1: love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember the playoffs have just

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Speaker 2: been spectacular. Who cares about small markets? Who cares that

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Speaker 2: Okay c is a small market in Indiana? Indianapolis is

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Speaker 2: a small market.

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Speaker 1: Who cares? Man? To Quoteburton Man, basketball is fun. Brace

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Speaker 1: the weekend, people,