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Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Snakerbitten. Welcome into another episode

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Speaker 1: of The Colt Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast. We are

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Speaker 1: presented by our friends at Microsoft Surface co Pilot plus PC.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm joined by my friend Lara Overton. We are

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Speaker 1: going to do a full recap of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five season look ahead to the twenty twenty six offseason.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into that, though, I do just want

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Speaker 1: to say, like I hear fans, I hear fans sentiment

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Speaker 1: right now. I know a lot of fans are are

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Speaker 1: not happy. A lot of people who are listening to this,

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Speaker 1: are watching this, are not happy with the direction of

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Speaker 1: this football team. I hear that. It's our job here

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Speaker 1: to kind of break down what happened in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five and look ahead to twenty twenty six. The NFL

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Speaker 1: calendar doesn't stop like we are, what, like Lara, like

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Speaker 1: a month and a half away from the NFL combine?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if that probably? Yeah? Maybe what forty days?

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Speaker 1: The twenty days we've got, I mean, there are some

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Speaker 1: big decisions that are going to be happening in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, potentially leading up to the combine,

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Speaker 1: and then you got free agency. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to get into here, but I do understand that, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans did want some change to happen.

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Speaker 1: I do think, just as a starting point here, I

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Speaker 1: think the reason why the Colts kept Chris Ballard and

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen in place is because, and this is what

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Speaker 1: Carli Ersa Gordon said, Larra, is the first ten games

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Speaker 1: of the season, you're trying to replicate that. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is your best path of building a contender in

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Speaker 1: the next two to three years is trying to replicate that,

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Speaker 1: and to do that you have to keep the same

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Speaker 1: people in place. So that's just where I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start to kind of address that. But let's look at

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season, Lara, when you think about

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Speaker 1: this team, just blanket, Like, what's the first thing that

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Speaker 1: pops into your head about the twenty twenty five Colts

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Speaker 1: as a season if you were just recapping it right now.

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Speaker 3: Can't finish close games? Yeah, the big three and seven

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Speaker 3: and one possession games. Three times during their seven game

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Speaker 3: losing streak, the defense failed to hold a lead in

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Speaker 3: the closing minutes. And what did we see from wild

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Speaker 3: Card weekend to this point is how many close games

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Speaker 2: And I just I mean that's what.

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Speaker 1: The lead changes after the two minute warning were crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, and just looking at obviously through the eight and

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Speaker 3: to start, you had this explosive offense. Obviously Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 3: was on an MVP pace.

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Speaker 2: With the way he was running the ball. But even

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Speaker 3: Eight and two, both of those losses in that stretch,

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Speaker 3: Rams and Steelers, I think you scored twenty points. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you have to be able to win games even when

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Speaker 3: your offense doesn't score more than twenty points like those

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Speaker 3: were both.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven to twenty losses.

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Speaker 3: I am even gonna kind of lump in the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City game just because that's another example of you scored

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Speaker 3: twenty points, which still is I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: A lower scoring game for this team.

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Speaker 3: But I just think about you have to have the

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Speaker 3: ability to even win tight games, win low scoring games.

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Speaker 2: That's what you see.

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Speaker 3: Good teams find ways to win in different ways. You

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Speaker 3: can't always bank on your team putting up what this

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Speaker 3: the wins thirty three points, twenty nine points, forty points,

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Speaker 3: thirty one points, thirty eight, thirty thirty one especially at

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Speaker 3: a point in the season as teams started to figure

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Speaker 3: out this Colts offense and the way that they were

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Speaker 3: able to commit to stopping the run, they were selling

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Speaker 3: ways to diversify your offense and be more productive. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think about the quote from Chris Ballard. Offensively, we've

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Speaker 3: got to be able to run it and when we

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Speaker 3: when Daniel Jones got hurt, it took away some of

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Speaker 3: the things we could do from a mobility standpoint, which

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Speaker 3: and to me, that has to be an immediate priority

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Speaker 3: right now. As you think about everyone's being retained, there's

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Speaker 3: a sense of urgency. You have to look at the

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Speaker 3: inability to start moving the ball and just look at

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Speaker 3: the fact that even when you were eight and two,

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Speaker 2: It more than twenty points.

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Speaker 1: I think that's such a good point because how many

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Speaker 3: To that point, which is also what good teams do.

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Speaker 3: Good teams do put away bad teams and you know,

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Speaker 3: leave nothing to be decided as well.

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Speaker 1: But this team, you know, they won the close game

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Speaker 1: they had a little bit of good fortune with you know,

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Speaker 1: the missed field goal that Will Luttz had and then

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Speaker 1: how to win those games down the stretch. And then

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Speaker 1: score game, sometimes the narrative is all that team got lucky,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I do think there's something to that,

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Speaker 1: to having that kind of that grit down the stretch

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Speaker 1: five hundred. And when I think when you're under five hundred,

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Speaker 1: you can't just chalk it up to bad luck, missed calls,

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Speaker 1: And that is something that I wrote this on colts

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Speaker 1: at eight and nine and say we were just like

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Speaker 1: there were more. There are too many of those instances

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Speaker 3: And this is a quote from moley Cox, one of

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Speaker 3: both in big wins and in losses, because Mo was

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Speaker 3: always just going to be one of the most candid

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Speaker 3: everything that he's been through, and he was saying, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's something he said, just not being able to finish games.

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Speaker 2: We've been up.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City, we were up, things like that, Seattle we

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Speaker 3: to win a bunch of these games. The other thing

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Speaker 3: jj is the fact that the Colts were just two

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Speaker 3: and eight against teams that finished five hundred were better

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Speaker 2: So you've got to.

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Speaker 3: Win close games and you've got to beat good teams.

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Speaker 3: Those are just the two things that have to be addressed.

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Speaker 3: Where yes, you were eight and two at one point,

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Speaker 3: eight and two start, you also have to be very

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Speaker 3: honest that there were things that you lacked and there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let let's talk about the record against bad teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you're you're looking at beating the absolute

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Speaker 1: the Titans and the Raiders, the Dolphins. These are bad

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Speaker 1: like I'm trying to mentally figure out where I land

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Speaker 1: to like talk through it on this podcast. The Colts

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Speaker 1: entering week twelve, so this is after the bye, they

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Speaker 1: were number one in the NFL in point differential. You

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. The Rams on the Seahawks I think are

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Speaker 1: roundly considered like the two best teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Man Caroline almost proved that wrong high.

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Speaker 1: Well this weekend the struggle with the Panther.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you know that's definitely play off football. It's playoff football.

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Speaker 2: But no, you're you're totally right, totally right.

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Speaker 1: You were. You were in the the grouping with those

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Speaker 1: two teams. The Cults are number one and EPA per

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Speaker 1: play number one in success rate. They scored on fifty

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars made the playoffs because they figured out ways

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Speaker 1: to win games late. But there is something too just

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Speaker 3: Right, the Hoosia I was kind of saying speaking of

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, Fernando Mendoza future Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Uture Raiders quarterback. Probably I think the Peach Bowl solidified

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Speaker 1: who's the number one overall pick next year?

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Also, while we're clarifying things, I don't want people to

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Speaker 3: So I don't want to people to think that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're just by the end of this episode,

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna be slouching. It'd be great.

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Speaker 1: So we have that tough, tough scene there. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where do you fall on, like beating bad teams,

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Speaker 1: but beating them by twenty one, twenty thirty thirty four points?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they You know, you have to show

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Speaker 3: no mercy in those situations. And I also you look

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Speaker 3: to the fact that those were opportunities for this team

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Speaker 3: to continue developing, continue showing who they were, can continue

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Speaker 3: expanding this offense there were Yeah, I think that there's

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Speaker 3: And was in complete support of Daniels and locked in

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Speaker 3: for everything. I mean, he had the best you know,

442
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Speaker 3: camp that we have seen from him to this point,

443
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Speaker 3: did all of these things, and I just I absolutely

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Speaker 3: hate I hate the circumstance. That's why I say I

445
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Speaker 3: hate the question because I hate that we even have

446
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Speaker 3: to like evaluate the circumstance here, though, JG is what

447
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Speaker 3: comes to mind for me. You talk about that Daniel

448
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Speaker 3: Jones has not finished a season healthy, Also Anthony Richardson

449
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Speaker 3: hasn't finished a season healthy. That's a big gamble to

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Speaker 3: say that Anthony Richardson would have even been able to

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Speaker 3: stay on the field had he stepped in for Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty three he played four games, got

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Speaker 3: injured in week five, twenty twenty four, played for Miss two,

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Speaker 3: played to Miss two, played five and then missed the

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Speaker 3: final two. Yeah, and then twenty twenty five pregame injury

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Speaker 3: in week six.

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Speaker 2: So could it have looked different? Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I also think that that's a big statement to say

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Speaker 3: that Anthony, even true would have stayed healthy through that

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Speaker 3: stretch of games. We know the different games you were facing,

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Speaker 3: the defense, you we know what.

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Speaker 1: The offense would have looked like. It would have been

463
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Speaker 1: this run heavy, you know, pounded, play action, deep over

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Speaker 1: type of offense that I think the Colts would have

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Speaker 1: adapted to. But you know you are putting your quarterback

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Speaker 1: in harm's way by doing that, by running him ten

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Speaker 1: times a game. So no, it's a fair point, and

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Speaker 1: but it is one that I just I can't totally

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Speaker 1: get out of my head because nature of the accident

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Speaker 1: that happened to Richardson.

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Speaker 3: And not only the one that happened to Richardson, the

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Speaker 3: one that happened to Travia in the exact same game

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Speaker 3: just minutes away from I mean, yeah, so many of

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Speaker 3: these things.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I'm trying to balance. Like, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we talked about the Niners and what they went through

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Speaker 1: with their best players getting hurt. Mikel Williams, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it was the other guy forgot to mention their first

479
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Speaker 1: round pick he got hurt. But the Colts this year,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones missed the final four games, DeForest Buckner missed

481
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Speaker 1: seven games, Tarvarius Ward missed four games down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner missed four games down the stretch, Brayden Smith

483
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Speaker 1: missed four game down games down the stretch. These, I

484
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Speaker 1: mean the ones on defense to silo those out you

485
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Speaker 1: lost arguably I would say three, not maybe arguably three

486
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Speaker 1: or five best players on defense are out and the

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Speaker 1: resources that you put into those guys. Also as a

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Speaker 1: factor here, you you put a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: weight into DeForest Buckner, right, because of how good of

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Speaker 1: a player he is, how much of a staple he

491
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Speaker 1: is for this team. You were aggressive to get Trevarious

492
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Speaker 1: Word into this building, and then you're even more aggressive

493
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Speaker 1: to get Sauce Garden You're into this building, and then

494
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Speaker 1: both those guys are hurt down the stretch. That is

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Speaker 1: that is and I mean you talk about bad luck

496
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Speaker 1: like that is straight up bad luck. Where you're now

497
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Speaker 1: down to similar not I mean it's similar ish you're

498
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Speaker 1: down to your third fourth fifth string cornerbacks, just like

499
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Speaker 1: you're down to your third string I guess fourth string

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Speaker 1: quarterback option teams that lose that type of depth, Like

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Speaker 1: it's not just you're losing one guy at one position,

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Speaker 1: you're losing like the top two guys. And that's also

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Speaker 1: what this defense was supposed to be built around, was

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Speaker 1: this amazing secondary that you poured a ton of resources into.

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Speaker 1: And then you can't play the way you want to

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Speaker 1: play down the stretch because you don't have the guys

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Speaker 1: you expected to have in there.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention even going back to preseason when you

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Speaker 3: lost Justin Wally, who would have been an important piece

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Speaker 3: in all of that, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: That's another reason Justin Wally, do you trade for Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a really open ended question.

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Speaker 2: Another injury.

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Speaker 3: This happened obviously kind of prior to the stretch that

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Speaker 3: you're talking about. But I just think about the factor

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Speaker 3: of losing Spencer Strader in the fashion that you did,

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Speaker 3: and then having to go through the Michael Badgeley's experiment

518
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Speaker 3: to then you know, obviously land on Blake Groupie available.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so even that was a wild chain

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Speaker 3: of events too to try to, you know, mend that

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Speaker 3: area which Spencer Trader had been incredible.

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Speaker 2: For you to the start of the season.

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Speaker 3: Obviously there were some you know, Badgely, there were instances

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Speaker 3: in which there were missed kicks that.

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Speaker 2: Cost you games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Texans game.

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Speaker 3: In particular, that one, and you don't always all place

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Speaker 3: it upon the kicker. But that's just another area within

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Speaker 3: this that I think that Obviously, the defense is huge

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Speaker 3: and that's going to be the majority of it with

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Speaker 3: the guys giving the guys who you were talking about,

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Speaker 3: but that's just kind of another factor in all of

533
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Speaker 3: us where you were trying to kind of band aid

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Speaker 3: a position to figure it out in the meantime, and

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Speaker 3: they eventually get to Blake Groupie, who I thought was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic. The thing that I go back to

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Speaker 1: on this though, is, again, if we're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, you can't just sit here and say, well,

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Speaker 1: if everyone's healthy, will we will be good.

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Speaker 2: You can never bank on that.

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Speaker 1: You never can bank on that. I think you can say, yes,

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Speaker 1: if everyone's healthy, we are going to be good. We

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Speaker 1: will be a good defense because the talent of those

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Speaker 1: guys is there. Now we need to see what the

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Speaker 1: future holds. For Trevarius Ward, who kind of intimated in

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Speaker 1: the locker room last week that he is pondering his future.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where that goes. But you have to be

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Speaker 1: able to overcome that in a better way. It can't

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Speaker 1: just be well, we didn't have the players, so we

550
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Speaker 1: couldn't pull it off. You got this is and again

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Speaker 1: it is a fit. To me, it's a fair thing

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Speaker 1: to say sometimes that injuries torpedo to season if you're

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Speaker 1: just kind of zooming out from like our perspective is

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Speaker 1: analyzing it. I do think it's a fair thing to

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Speaker 1: say this season was torpedo be of injuries. But for

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen. It cannot be your strategy

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Speaker 1: to say you've got to stay healthy this year.

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Speaker 3: Also, the players who were on the field were on

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Speaker 3: the field when you had winnable situations to finish games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look too.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Kansas City game in and of itself

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Speaker 3: is one that I think about.

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Speaker 2: The Seattle game.

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Speaker 3: These are just ones that you know, I think about

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Speaker 3: in particular, and going back to my notes, I got

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different Yeah. Okay, so you were leading

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs twenty to nine in the fourth quarter at

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Speaker 3: Arrowhead Stadium to end up losing twenty three twenty in overtime.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't get to let you were trailing Houston twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: but in position for a comeback, you were on first

571
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Speaker 3: and ten, drivestalled out. You couldn't run the ball with JT.

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Speaker 3: You had, you know, consecutive and completion. Seattle, you hold

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Speaker 3: that offense, you know, to you don't allow a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah in that game, what was it thirty seven seconds

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Speaker 3: or something whatever it was in that one.

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Speaker 1: So they're just yeah, those are the ones that stick

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Speaker 1: at stick with you after the season, and you can't

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Speaker 1: chalk it up to necessarily just injuries. I do want

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Speaker 1: to have kind of a really measured discussion about Danigel

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Speaker 1: Jones season though, because I think that's important that we

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Speaker 1: do that. We will get to that though. Right after

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Speaker 1: back here on the Colt Show, I'm jj Stankowitz with

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Speaker 1: Learra Overton. I feel like we didn't ever have a

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Speaker 1: chance to digest Daniel Jones season because he tears his

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Speaker 1: achilles in Jacksonville. The next day, Philip Rivers pops into

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Speaker 1: the the facility here on fifty sixth Street to sling

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Speaker 1: it around with coleman Owen. And you know who's the

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00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: other guy, Eli Eli Pankell, Yeah, Yeah, that's it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and they signed Philip Rivers and it's like, oh my god,

599
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Speaker 1: this is the biggest NFL news story of the month.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is like old news.

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Speaker 3: By the end of it, it's like, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: he is procedure was successful.

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Speaker 1: And do you remember that? It was like it was

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Speaker 1: like that Wednesday where Shane it's it's like a twenty

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Speaker 1: minute press conference. Is it's this twenty minute press conference

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Speaker 1: and it's all about Philip Rivers And then at the

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Speaker 1: end of it, Shane's like walking off and it goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, Daniel's procedure was successful. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: do want to take kind of a long look at

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Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones did because the Colts still have to

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Speaker 1: re sign Daniel Jones. They have to find a way

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Speaker 1: to keep him in the building. But I think the

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Speaker 1: trend right now would be that he's probably back next year. Again,

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Speaker 1: a lot stills to happen to do that, but I

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Speaker 1: think that is where if you listen to Shane Chris Ballard,

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Speaker 1: Carli orse Gordon, I think a lot of signs are

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Speaker 1: pointing that way. Again, it's not finalized, so I can't

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Speaker 1: guarantee it, but I do think we need to start

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Speaker 1: laying tracks for what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, everything pointed to that he they're very

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Speaker 3: much going to make every effort to bring him back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, JJ, can you clarify for people kind of the.

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Speaker 3: Outlook with an achilles injury at that position and everything

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Speaker 3: that we know, Like how big of a gamble is

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Speaker 3: that on his being healthy or what's kind of the

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Speaker 3: time frame with which you would expect to see him

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Speaker 3: back in any football related capacity, Because we've seen him.

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Speaker 3: He's been, you know, around the building, he's been on

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Speaker 3: game days, zipping around on the scooter, all of that,

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Speaker 3: doing absolutely everything, still being immensely present.

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Speaker 1: Every every single thing that I have heard in my

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Speaker 1: conversations both in you know, press conferences and just walk

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Speaker 1: around here, is that he is. Really It's not just

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Speaker 1: him saying he's going to be ready for training camp,

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Speaker 1: which he did. He is going to be ready for

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Speaker 1: training camp. Like granted, there's a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 1: has to you still have to go through the process,

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Speaker 1: you can't have setbacks and all that, but like he is,

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Speaker 1: he is nuts about rehab, Like he is fully committed

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Speaker 1: to it. He I think is going to do whatever

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Speaker 1: he can to day one of training camp up at

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Speaker 1: Grand Park, being out there with this team. Now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: part of that process again has to be the Cults

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Speaker 1: re signing him, him getting a contract to stay here.

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Speaker 1: But from an achilles standpoint, I don't think that's going

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Speaker 1: to hold him back from being cleared to practice. Now,

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Speaker 1: what does that look like in reality? Are there going

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Speaker 1: to be any restrictions on him? Is it going to

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Speaker 1: be maybe a bit of a slow build for him?

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Speaker 1: But I think you know, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people when it happened just assumed he's it's a year,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I am. But for like the different sports,

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Speaker 1: right because you Tyree terrors his achilles in Game seven

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Speaker 1: of the NBA Finals and it's like he immediately it

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Speaker 1: was like he's not back next year. So I think

656
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Speaker 1: you probably get that in your head a little bit

657
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: of when this could happen. It is different, different sports,

658
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: different requirements, different stresses. And we have seen older quarterbacks

659
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: come back Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins another one. We have

660
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: seen that older quarterbacks come back from this the season

661
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: after Week one. Kirk Cousins, I know his achilles tear

662
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: was maybe a month earlier, but Kirk Cousins at thirty

663
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: five was ready to go for day one to training camp.

664
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Speaker 3: The other thing, the other question that I've heard, and

665
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: I know who you want to get into like digesting

666
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: Daniel season, but the other thing is is there have

667
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: been some questions as obviously a quarterback with which mobility

668
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: is such a strength of him, how much concerned do

669
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: you have regarding you know, coming back off of an

670
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: injury of that severity that could impact mobility. But then

671
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: everything that I've heard is like when that's healed and

672
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: when it's ready to go, Like yes, you'll have a bill,

673
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: but like there should not be any limitation on him

674
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: and this should not be a long term hindrance to

675
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: his mobility that he was obviously such a strength of

676
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: his and such a key component of.

677
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: This off of the mobility thing is interesting because it's

678
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: not like Daniel Jones was scrambling all over the place

679
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: this year. He wasn't doing a ton of designed runs.

680
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: That was not a staple of his game like it

681
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: had been with the Giants. This was not something that

682
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Colts leaned into. The mobility we're talking about here. Lara

683
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: is boots, half rolls.

684
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: God how much of that did we see in Berlin.

685
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much that it's getting him on the move

686
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: outside of the pocket, but not him running the football

687
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: where the fibula impacted him. Because I asked Daniel about this,

688
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: was it was. Anytime he had to push off his

689
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: leg or had to decelerate it it hurt like it was.

690
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: It was tough. And the fact that he played through

691
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: it is is incredible. But I think the fibula should

692
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: be healed, the achilles should be healed, and if you

693
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: can get him on the move a little bit with

694
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: those boots in those roles, that is what this offense needs.

695
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't need him to scramble five times a game.

696
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: It needs him to be able to just get outside

697
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: the pocket. And that helps your play action game, that

698
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: helps your run game. So I'm confident he can get

699
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: back to that. Let's talk about what he did this season, though,

700
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: because what he did leading up to the fibula injury

701
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. He was outstanding as a quarterback.

702
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: And the conversation he was talking about this.

703
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: And I mean whether or not he ultimately finishes in

704
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: that realm of a Stafford or a may maybe not.

705
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: But Daniel Jones was good. He was a straight up

706
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: good quarterback. There are a couple of things that I

707
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: look at for him where I'm just interested in kind

708
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: of the discourse around it, because I think a lot

709
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: of people expect he's going to fall right back to

710
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: where he was with the Giants, which was a bottom

711
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: tier quarterback in terms of production. But Daniel Jones this

712
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: year he was third in the NFL completion percentage. It's

713
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent, fifteen yards per attempt at eight point

714
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: one tenth in or sorry this is entering week twelve,

715
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the wrong thing. But he was top

716
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: six in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and passer rating.

717
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: So those are all pretty good things right there that

718
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: he was able to do. And then so you look

719
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: at some of the the numbers behind it, and there

720
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: were real improvements that he made as your quarterback. Before

721
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: we get into those, Lara like, where do you sort

722
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: of fall on Daniel Jones weeks one through ten versus

723
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones week's like twelve.

724
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going I'm going back to some notes that

725
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: I have here, So just give me a quick second

726
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 3: as I'm trying to kind of figure out where all

727
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: of this was from.

728
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: Shane and some notes that I had.

729
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: A lot of notes, lot Daniel Jones.

730
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: Of notes, and there is just it's the comment where

731
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: and I'd have to go back and find it really quickly.

732
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: But it is.

733
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: Shane talking about Daniel and the way that he sees

734
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: the game.

735
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that was that was That was a point that

736
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up too. Okay, let me so

737
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: while you're looking for that.

738
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

739
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Another reason why I think you you run it back right,

740
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: is because Shane and Daniel had such a great connection.

741
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: This is what I was thinking about here. From weeks

742
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: one through ten, Daniel Jones through to receivers who are

743
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: classified as open or wide open by Pro Football Focus

744
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: ninety five times. That was the second highest total in

745
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: the NFL for any team. So ninety five open or

746
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: wide open targets. You might sit here and say, well,

747
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: Shane Stuken making it easy on him, but that would

748
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: be a completely reductive way to think about this Colts offense.

749
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: What Shane Stikeen does is he gives his quarterback a

750
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: package of plays. You go to the line of scrimmage,

751
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: read out the defense and call get us into the

752
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: right look in formation and one of these plays will

753
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: work against whatever defense you read. You have to have

754
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback who is firmly connected to his head coach

755
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. He sees the game

756
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: the same way as as he coach. Those ninety five

757
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: wide open targets are a product of the relationship between

758
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Shanstikeen.

759
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: And this is what Shane had to say.

760
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: And this is a note that I have had to

761
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: go all the way back to week eleven because I

762
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: was like, I knew this was in my game notes

763
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: and how I break everything down for sidelines. So this

764
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: is Shane talking about Daniel. The biggest thing that stands

765
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: out to me is the way he sees the game.

766
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: He sees it the right way, not only watching tape,

767
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: but also you can have side conversations where you don't

768
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: have to look at the tape and he kind of have, Hey,

769
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: here's what they're playing. We're thinking this versus this. He

770
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: can picture it in his head. I think that play

771
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: pay huge dividends for us. And that connection of Shane

772
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: being a former quarterback, Daniel being a quarterback, the way

773
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: that they see the game, the way they align, this

774
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: is something that I had talked with Daniel about way

775
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: early in the season, and he said, having a guy

776
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: who's played the position, that's a huge deal. And then

777
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: in regards to Shane, he said, he brings great passion

778
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: and enthusiasm into meetings, and how he teaches scheme very detailed,

779
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: and how he communicates what he wants to see in

780
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: the offense as a quarterback. All those things helped you

781
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: learn what he wants to see in the system. Communication

782
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 3: has been really good.

783
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: When I had Daniel on the podcast before the season,

784
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: the thing he I brought up to him is like,

785
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Shane doesn't want to be the smartest guy in the

786
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: room as like an offensive play caller and designer. He

787
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: just he's like, let's get to what works. And the

788
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: thing Daniel said is there's a lot of genius in

789
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: that simplicity. And I thought about that a lot over

790
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: the first ten games. This was not an offense that

791
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: was like having to do all these you know, smoke

792
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: and mirrors, you know Mickey Mouse stuff. It was like,

793
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna boot, we're gonna throw it to

794
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: the open guy, and we're gonna stay efficient and ahead

795
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: of the chains. And it was very simple, and.

796
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna have explosive runs with Johnathan Taylor.

797
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: Exactly right hand the ball off like That's what Daniel's

798
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: answer was. By the way, talking about like him running it,

799
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: He's like, well, why would I need to run it

800
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: when I've got twenty eight next to me? So this

801
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: this was an offense that was so well designed and

802
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: constructed with a coach and a quarterback who saw the

803
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: game the same way, that's how you get to the

804
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: level of success. The Colts had the areas where Daniel

805
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Jones himself I think improved two areas Lara number one.

806
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: He pushed the ball like. Another thing I remember about

807
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: our conversation that I had with Daniel prior to the

808
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: season was like I brought up to him people saying

809
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: you don't really throw a deep much, and he kind

810
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: of bristled at it and he was like, you know, yeah,

811
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess you know people say that about my game.

812
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: Wasn't that One of the biggest comments when he was

813
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: named the starter is what does this mean for Alec Pearce.

814
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: Oh, what does it mean for Alec Pearson? Right, He's

815
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a great year.

816
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: And also Alec Pearce is not just the deep ball,

817
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: but everyone was also under us Mami Alex Pearson. But

818
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: wasn't that One of the biggest narratives out of that

819
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: was people didn't think that you would have that deep

820
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: ball threat with that tandem.

821
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: Well it turned out you did, Daniel Jones. So this

822
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: year are coming into this year. His average depth of

823
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: target from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four was seven

824
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: point five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. That was

825
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: sixty first out of sixty four qualified quarterbacks in that stretch.

826
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: This year, entering week twelve, which again I'm gonna cut

827
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: it off at like the fibula or that did change

828
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: some things to the offense. But entering week twelve, he

829
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: was averaging an average depth of target of eight point

830
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: nine yards beyond the line of scrimmage, which was eleventh

831
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So you're not chucking and ducking. But

832
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: he would push it when the time called for it.

833
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Like I think about you know, the touchdown he had

834
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: to pierce in Berlin where they got quarters and they

835
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: had a post behind it and he just said, I'm

836
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: ripping that thing. Those are not necessarily throws that he

837
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: was making with the Giants because I think he didn't

838
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe the receivers to do it.

839
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: He also did the protection to bring the me the

840
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: offensive line.

841
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: To my next point, Yeah, Daniel Jones this year he

842
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: had the lowest pressure to sack ratio of his career

843
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: fourteen point six percent of the time he was pressured

844
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: he was sacked. That was ninth lowest in the NFL. Wow,

845
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. So we're talking about if you if

846
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: you're in that like top ten or I guess bottom

847
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: ten maybe in lowest pressure to sack ratio, that's a

848
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: really good thing. He only took twenty two sacks this

849
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: year and what seven of those came against the Steelers

850
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: in just a game that like completely got out of hand. Yeah,

851
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: that is that is something you can build on. That

852
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: is again a coach and a quarterback seeing the game

853
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: the same way. A quarterback who trusts his line and

854
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: trusts his receivers. You get a low pressure to sack

855
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: ratio like that. That's a really good thing.

856
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: It's a really good thing. Absolutely.

857
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: So that's where I think you can build with Daniel

858
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Jones in terms of that Aligne's backed right and then

859
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: that that brings us right the line's back. I think,

860
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we'll see what happens at right tackle.

861
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Is Brad Smith's free agent.

862
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Right Jalen Travis had some good moments down the stretch,

863
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: but I think you've got you've got a line that

864
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: can protect him, and you've got a coach and a

865
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: quarterback and a skill set, a group of receivers who

866
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: he trust in, a running back who we trust. That

867
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: is where I think this offense can continue to grow

868
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: and can find ways to replicate that success from early

869
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: in the season. Let's talk about free agency, though we'll

870
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: kind of close out the pot here with a little

871
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: off season preview. Because your leading receiver is a free agent,

872
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: your quarterback is a free agent. Those are two things

873
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: that you've got to figure out. You know that that

874
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: is a huge and Chris Ballard said, you know, we

875
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, basically we'd like to have Daniel back. And

876
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: he said, Alex a priority. Alec Pierce is a priority.

877
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: We can that's what are the options if you didn't

878
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: bring anold Jones back, what are you.

879
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Left with there?

880
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean it, you know, you you have Anthony Richardson

881
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: on your roster, but the vision limitations for Richardson are

882
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: those need to be cleared up and it's not something

883
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: he can like rehab his way out of right.

884
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: And so obviously that's something with time and a lot

885
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: of things that he will work on. But like just

886
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: looking at like you kind of have to write like

887
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: you your.

888
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Option is Riley Leondard door you go out and like

889
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Malik willis.

890
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and you already know that you have a

891
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: guy who works in this system that your head coach loves,

892
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: that the rest of this locker room loves.

893
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: Like, like this is a again, You've got.

894
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: To find a way to get You have to come

895
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: to a deal that's fair for both sides. Yeah, like

896
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: within Daniel saying you know, I'd love to be back,

897
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: and the Colts saying we you know, we would like

898
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: to have you back. You still have to come to

899
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: that deal.

900
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Right.

901
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not and it's not a guarantee. It's it's a process,

902
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: and it's one that I don't think anyone back there

903
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: is just going to take for granted.

904
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: How many other I mean, what do you think too?

905
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: Your competition is across the market.

906
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: Right, there are other teams that need quarterbacks, right, so

907
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: that that is a part of it, is you know

908
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: you you signed him to a one year deal because

909
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: that's what you know. His market was last year. It

910
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: was market's different this year. Let's talk about Pierce though,

911
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: because the connection he had with Daniel Jones was outstanding

912
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: it and like you, like you mentioned earlier, he turned

913
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: into a receiver who could threaten you at all three levels.

914
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: Like the catch that I will go back to for

915
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce from twenty twenty five, third and seven or

916
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: third and six against the Broncos, with like a minute

917
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: to go or whatever it was, They're at the fifty

918
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: yard line. Pierce runs a drag, He beats Sir tan Oh,

919
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: accelerates away from Sir tan who is maybe the best

920
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: cornerback in the NFL, catches that ball on third and

921
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: six for a seven yard game, and they get the

922
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: first down. That is the growth that Alec Pierce showed

923
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: right there, where, Hey, you need someone to go make

924
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: a play. Yeah, get the ball to fourteen and it

925
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be forty yards down the field.

926
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: M hey.

927
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: I was talking with Ali about this throughout the season

928
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: and he had said that the intermediate route running is

929
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: something he's been working on for years. It's just that

930
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: this year, he's finally gotten a lot more chances to

931
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: showcase it.

932
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: This wasn't necessarily something that was new.

933
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: Everyone kept, oh this is I mean, yes, a credit

934
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: to him for developing that, working with Reggie all of

935
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: those things, But like this has been something that has

936
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: been an area that he's been developing and just now

937
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to showcase that ability. I asked him

938
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: to jj I said, does that development come more from

939
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: reps or from film study? And he said, reps is

940
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: the biggest thing. A lot of drill work. Best way

941
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: to get better at route running is to run the routes.

942
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: You can do all those cone drills, but it's the

943
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: only way to really do it is to run at

944
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: full speed. He also saw a ton of feedback from

945
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: Reggie each and every day after practice, a ton of

946
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: that feedback. And you know that's Shane just talked about

947
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: his development the catcher ads has been phenomenal. The way

948
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: he's able to pluck the ball away from defenders continue

949
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: to make strides has been.

950
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: Great for us. And one of my things about Alec again, I'm.

951
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: Gonna go back to he had the season he had

952
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: and he had three different quarterbacks like you talked, Yes,

953
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: he had the connection with Daniel Jones. He also showcased

954
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: that connection with Riley Leonard at Houston against the league's

955
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: best defense.

956
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, which was playing its guys in the first two quarters. Yes,

957
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: before he got ejected for grazing the referee.

958
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, that whole situation.

959
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: But I believe that that sixty yard touchdown that Aleck

960
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: had early was the longest touchdown that Houston had allowed

961
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: all season.

962
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: To that once.

963
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the other thing is it's not just

964
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: you're not just.

965
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: Saying, oh, it's Alec with Daniel Jones.

966
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: It's Aleck came in and was playing his first season

967
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: with Matt Ryan, right, I mean the different acts, and

968
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: he went.

969
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: From Matt Ryan to Sam Ellinger, Nick Foles to Anthony

970
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: Richardson to Gardner Minshew to Anthony Richardson to Gardner Minshew

971
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson to Joe Flacco to Anthony Richardson to

972
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco to Daniel Jones to Philip Rivers to Riley Leonard.

973
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's part of his credit.

974
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: What he's been able to do, how he's been able

975
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: to and just how much this offense trusts him.

976
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he became the guy down the stretch when this

977
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: offense needed to make a play, they got the ball

978
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: to fourteen.

979
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: I just you look at Obviously, there's gonna be a

980
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: big market for him.

981
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: Obviously there are a lot of teams who would love

982
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: to have that playmaking guy.

983
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Guys like Alec Pierce do not just pop up. And

984
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: when I say guys like Alec Pierce, I'm talking about

985
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: your ex receiver who can win downfield outside of the

986
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: numbers and also threaten you intermediate and on short routes.

987
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: Can I give you the guys who Alec Pierce likes

988
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: to study film on because he told me, he said

989
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: in the offseason he watches a lot of different NFL players.

990
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: He says he tries to pick up on subtle moves

991
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 3: they make, especially guys who are similar players to himself.

992
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: Nico Collins yep X, Mike Evans X, Justin Jefferson, George Pickens.

993
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are those are and like Justin Jefferson is

994
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: like an elite talent. I wouldn't just classify him as

995
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: an X, but Evans is like one of the best

996
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: X receivers I've ever seen. George Pickens this year is

997
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: an outstanding X receiver. And who's the other guy, Nico

998
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Collins one of the best X receivers in the NFL.

999
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: Where those guys are physical and they are fast, and

1000
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: they you throw the ball up to them like it's

1001
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: like Reggie says, it's not a fifty to fifty ball

1002
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: to an eighty twenty ball. All those guys fit into

1003
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: the same bucket as Alec Pierce. So yeah, and he

1004
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: played to their level this year and maybe even you know,

1005
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: in certain instances like the down the field stuff was

1006
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: like he was like DeShawn Jackson level.

1007
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, of numbers on the Shan Jackson. What a great pool?

1008
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: Can we also talk about like I can't remember which

1009
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: game it was now, but there was like a hail

1010
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: Mary situation at the end of the half and ap

1011
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: went out and played deturnsive back.

1012
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

1013
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the wanted to pick so bad?

1014
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: Is that the forty nine Ers game?

1015
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Maybe no, I feel like it was before that, but maybe.

1016
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it was at home.

1017
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: It was either it was definitely a home game because

1018
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: I remember being in the South ends on watching it happen.

1019
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, just so and Kenny More was like, oh,

1020
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: that's just I forget you guys don't see that. We

1021
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 2: practice that every week. Like but.

1022
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: So I think like a lot of people are going

1023
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: to ask, like, well, how can the Colts afford Daniel

1024
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Jones and Alec Pierce. They're in a good position cap wise,

1025
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Like you can go over the spot track and you

1026
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: can look up how much they have cap space. Cap

1027
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: space is more fluid cash. You can spend cash over

1028
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: cap and you can you can you know, work the

1029
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: cap to an extent. And I do think what the

1030
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Colts have done over the last what is it last

1031
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: year is be a little bit more aggressive in how

1032
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: they're structuring contracts to fit in a sauce gardener, trade

1033
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: to fit in a cambinum and a tra various ward

1034
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: and free agency. I think, you know, And that's something

1035
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: where Carli Ers Gordon said she saw progress from Chris Ballard.

1036
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there might be a dot to

1037
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: connect there where you can you have you have based

1038
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: on you you can have the cap space to do this. Now.

1039
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: The thing that's going to be interesting is you have

1040
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you do address.

1041
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: On defense, oh really quickly, So just in perspective of receivers.

1042
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: So the NFL's twenty highest paid receivers per year currently

1043
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: make an average of twenty three million a year, with

1044
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: fifteenth at twenty five million, tenth at twenty nine million.

1045
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: So that's looking at kind of market value if you have.

1046
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: A baseline there. Yeah, but again it's about resource allocation,

1047
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: and you do have you have a lot of starting

1048
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: roles you got to fill on defense safety. What do

1049
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: you do with Nick Cross? You've already paid Cambine them,

1050
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: You've paid Sauce Gardner. You know, see what happens with Ward,

1051
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: You've paid Kenny Moore the second. You need to decide

1052
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: can we pay Nick Cross? I do think there's something

1053
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: too lou Anaruma wanted to play three safeties and needing

1054
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: the bodies to do it. Rodney Thomas is here played

1055
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty snaps on defense kind of is

1056
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: that third safety cam buying them and Nit Cross like

1057
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: barely missed any time? I don't think they did miss

1058
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: any time, not that I can, like, not even like

1059
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: a single nap potentially, So do you want to then

1060
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: remove a starting safety if you'd like to get into

1061
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: more third safety? Looks three safety looks, defensive end Quidy

1062
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: pay Sampson I have become Taekwon Lewis are all free agents.

1063
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: So those are guys who played a lot of snaps

1064
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: for you. Jermaine Pratt, a linebacker, is a free agent,

1065
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: a guy who played a lot of snaps this year.

1066
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: So you've got a lot.

1067
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: Of it didn't come in until week it's like week

1068
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: eight seven.

1069
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: Ok. Yeah, yeah, there you go.

1070
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of snaps you need to fill

1071
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: for those those positions, and at some point you do

1072
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, you you have the cults are probably have

1073
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: seven picks in the draft. Pro Football Focus projects are

1074
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: going to get two seventh round compicks, but you have

1075
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: a two of three of four or five and then

1076
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: three sevens if those two compicks come through. Okay, so

1077
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: you know you you probably need to find starters out

1078
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: of your day two picks rounds two and three. The

1079
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Colt they've been pretty good about that. You need, honestly,

1080
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: that fourth round pick. You might need to be competing

1081
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: to start. You know, maybe you find something in the fifth,

1082
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: but you need to find players with those picks. And

1083
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: then again, you've got a lot of holes that you

1084
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: need to address on defense, So how do you then

1085
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: allocate those resources? Knowing you've got Daniel Jones and Alec

1086
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Pierce's free agents, you need to figure out right tackle.

1087
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: That might be a place where kind of like we

1088
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: saw last year with Will Fryes and Ryan Kelly leaving

1089
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: his free agents, you might say, well, we've got a

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Speaker 1: guy in the pipeline and we need to allocate our

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Speaker 1: resources elsewhere. Now, Bradon Smith has played a lot of

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Speaker 1: really good football for the Colts, So I don't just

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Speaker 1: want to throw that away. You started over one hundred

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Speaker 1: games at right tackle. That's not a guy you just

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Speaker 1: flippantly dismiss as like we can fill in for him.

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Speaker 1: But that is going to be an interesting kind of

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Speaker 1: decision that the Colts have to make holistically about this.

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Speaker 3: Roster, because when you look at the offensive line in particular,

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Speaker 3: in the last two drafts, you've invested a third round

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Speaker 3: pick in Matt Gonsalvez in twenty twenty, for a fourth

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Speaker 3: round pick in Tanner Bordolini in twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 3: a fourth round pick in Jalen Travis in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So you've made investment in those areas for a reason.

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Speaker 1: And you've got an offensive line coaching Tony Soprano Junior

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Speaker 1: who the Colts trust to develop those guys.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he is awesome.

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Speaker 3: One thing here, when you think about the potential areas

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Speaker 3: to fill in the areas to address defensively, is Leuan

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Speaker 3: Arumo is interviewing for head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 2: How does it impact.

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Speaker 3: That area that situation if lou were to leave and

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Speaker 3: then you're filling that and potentially having a completely different

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Speaker 3: defensive pilopy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean I think you probably crossed that bridge, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you get there with them.

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Speaker 3: But that's just like an interesting factor is obviously he

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Speaker 3: is these you know, in that and it's the very

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Speaker 3: early round of some of these interviews, but his name

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Speaker 3: has been connected to a number of.

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Speaker 1: Head coaching Tennessee in New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those two big ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's something you would need to

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Speaker 1: think about and consider if you know, you get to

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Speaker 1: that point. But I mean we'll know by a month

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Speaker 1: before free agency, yeah, if you have to fill the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator position or not. But I mean just a

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Speaker 1: lot of these discussions need to be you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of fleshed out now, and you know, when we get

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Combine in February. That's kind of where

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Speaker 1: things really pick up. That's when you start, you know,

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Speaker 1: feeling out, you know, hearing the rumors of teams interested

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Speaker 1: in this guy or that guy, and you start feeling

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Speaker 1: what the market is going to be for some of

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Speaker 1: these impending free agents and decide, you know, can you

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Speaker 1: keep them or not.

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Speaker 2: February twenty third is the beginning of the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that is coming up fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically you have two and a half weeks after

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl before Yep, the combine begins.

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Speaker 1: Once again to start to end the episode the same

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Speaker 1: way we started it. The NFL calendar doesn't stop for anyone.

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Speaker 2: And then March eleventh begins free agency. Yep, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Those are your kind of key dates to be looking

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Speaker 2: at coming up to the.

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Speaker 1: Next Yeah, two months. Well, we wanted to give you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone kind of just an overview. Yeah, the twenty five

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Speaker 1: season put it to bed quick little rundown of the

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Speaker 1: off season. I think we dug into a lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff. I mean, there were so many stones we

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Speaker 1: could have overturned here about this team and what happened and.

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Speaker 2: This could be a trilogy of a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could have gone for three hours and not

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Speaker 1: covered everything, but try to hit the main stuff here.

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