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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Currently Ben

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Speaker 2: is in the hospital with Jess and the baby has

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Speaker 2: not arrived yet, but they're waiting and it's happening. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So he's of course not gonna bother with watching the

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Speaker 2: episode this so I and he's not gonna record from

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Speaker 2: the hospital room. So I'm joined by one of my favorites,

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Speaker 2: my favorite substitute, Rachel Reccia.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Rachel, Hi, ash I'm so excited. I feel like

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Speaker 3: this episode is perfect for us because there's so much

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Speaker 3: crying and so I'm excited to hear all your takes.

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Speaker 2: Rachel, you told me before we started recording that Lee

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Speaker 2: thought this is a crazy episode.

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Speaker 4: But then you also said that you weren't sure how

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Speaker 4: you were enjoying the season so far.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you that, Like, I know that I

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Speaker 2: wasn't in the right mindset going into watching this, Like

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Speaker 2: we're having some serious sleep issues with hidden right now,

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Speaker 2: it's okay.

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Speaker 4: So I just feel like not, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel like everything is a waste of time because like

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Speaker 2: my time, it feels like more precious.

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Speaker 4: And then when I was watching this episode, I was like,

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Speaker 4: this is so bad. It's a bad I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is a waste of my time

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Speaker 2: right now, And I have never felt that way about

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like there is so much like drama

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Speaker 3: happening for absolutely no reason, and we're not even getting

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Speaker 3: We're not even getting the full picture, Like there there

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Speaker 3: is so much I feel like that the viewers are

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Speaker 3: not seeing, Like there's no way that these tears are

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Speaker 3: just happening like this for nothing.

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Speaker 2: We'll give me an example then, because I find that

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Speaker 2: it's actually kind of drama. Lists The only time I

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Speaker 2: really perked up this episode was when there.

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Speaker 4: Was the whole Rose confrontation. What do you think they're

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Speaker 3: There has to be alcohol just flowing this.

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Speaker 4: Oh Zoe was so drunk.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, cut like the morning after the group date.

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Speaker 4: Allegedly based on our observation.

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Speaker 3: We like cut to the morning after the group date,

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Speaker 3: and everyone's just crying, like hysterically sobbing like tears for

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Speaker 3: like an actual emotion. I think this is all like

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Speaker 4: And I cried, Yeah, that made no sense.

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Speaker 2: I actually went to rewind it because they were crying

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Speaker 2: the morning, and then I was like, wait a second,

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Speaker 3: And what I'm saying we're missing things because they're crying

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Speaker 3: over Zoe. But then by the end of the episode,

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Speaker 3: she's not the villain anymore. So there's pieces missing and

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Speaker 3: I would love to know what actually went down.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of how we thought with Maria last

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Speaker 2: year two. We thought there was some stuff missing, and

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Speaker 2: Ben explained last week that he thinks that, like, this

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Speaker 2: pieces yep, because there's no way that yeah, emotions peak

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Speaker 4: We get the preview.

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Speaker 2: Of the Carolina drama to come, but we we learned

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Speaker 4: The group date is downtown.

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Speaker 2: At first, I'm like, oh my god, this is gonna

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Speaker 2: this is like finance.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm obviously I.

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Speaker 3: Know, speculating, Oh you know, he's in finance. This could

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Speaker 3: be a finance group date, and like that's the stupidest

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Speaker 2: That their boss suits, and like, yes, I was so cringe.

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Speaker 2: I was like when they had to like do the

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Speaker 4: Hannah Burner, Hannah Burner, she saved.

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Speaker 3: It because I needed it. I thought the whole thing

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you meat. Then the menu that they

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: I think she's like, I'm gonna pick one of your

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Speaker 4: This cheese, this corniness is like out of this world.

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Speaker 4: So fillery uh huh la la la la. But yes,

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Speaker 4: Hannah Burner was good.

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Speaker 2: And then there was like the grant dollars that they

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Speaker 2: of time too, all right. So then then we get

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Speaker 2: are mean, and what did they even say that? What

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the start of it.

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Speaker 3: They already don't like her because of last week, right,

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Speaker 3: then she's like smiling, She's like smirking while she's saying it,

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Speaker 3: not yelling, but he's confronting them over what issue? Where's

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Speaker 2: The issues there being mean because they're saying that she

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Speaker 2: They just don't like her, so they're picking on.

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Speaker 3: There has to be a villain, Yeah, bonds the girls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah to the villain.

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Speaker 3: But so he's leaning into it. And then all of

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Speaker 4: No, she does not care about being part of the group.

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Speaker 2: And she was she's just like slurring. It was like

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, can we talk about how Parisa gets

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Speaker 2: Oh, very bizarre, very bizarre week. I was so weirded

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Speaker 2: a choking date. Basically she he has a choking activity

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Speaker 2: talk thinking about how dangerous it is to stuff this

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Speaker 3: And he is trying so hard to not have his

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Speaker 3: Like you could tell who he has come to you with,

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Speaker 3: it's so obvious. And then he just like does something different.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm very confused. That group date was all around.

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Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy watching.

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Speaker 4: It, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: And then we cut to the morning of just hysterical

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Speaker 4: Very strange stuff.

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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, Amy Robock here along with TJ Holmes, and

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Speaker 2: So then we go we go on the one on

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Speaker 2: one with Carolina and I first thought that like the

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Speaker 2: I hate that for them, But then it kind of

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed this date. Actually, I think she's a lot

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Speaker 2: She's definitely a front runner, but she definitely still gives

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Speaker 3: She's going to be a villain for her and Zoe,

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Speaker 2: They're both going to get relatively far. But I don't

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Speaker 2: good date, not a really good date. I said, really good.

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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the date with Letia,

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, there's a huge difference here. He likes Carolina,

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Speaker 4: She says she talks about how.

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Speaker 2: She has epilepsy and how this can often stand in

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Speaker 2: her way of like making connections with guys, and he's

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Speaker 2: how we leave it. Anything else to make make comments on.

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Speaker 2: I will have comments on her later in the episode,

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Speaker 2: but after this, nothing much to say now.

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Speaker 3: Uh, morning after again?

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Speaker 4: Bizarre, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Morning after But like gets even weirder throughout the episode, right.

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Speaker 4: Like why are afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Beverly's gone one on one dates? Kids? Like? Where that's

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Speaker 3: that didn't happen? What actually happened? Like I feel like

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Speaker 3: they're just not letting us in.

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Speaker 2: This is the weirdest thing because first we know who's

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Speaker 2: getting the one on one dates at the top of

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Speaker 2: the episode, it's gonna be Beverly and it's going to

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Speaker 2: be Katalina. Catalina makes total sense o getting the one

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Speaker 2: and today she's just not here and we don't know

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Speaker 2: if she's ever going.

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Speaker 4: To come back.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that me neither what happened. I don't

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Speaker 2: think she's sick.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's sick either. I feel like there

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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm wrong, but the dramatic crying the morning

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Speaker 2: What if they were crying over Beverly and they pretended

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Speaker 2: as if they were crying over the Zoe drama.

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Speaker 2: Carolina is home and she's crying because somebody else is

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Speaker 4: We totally understand.

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Speaker 2: Go feel like a little weird to yourself in your bedroom,

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Speaker 3: Do you feel the opposite?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I feel that I told Ben early

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Speaker 3: She's like doing that on purpose. Like, you cannot convince

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me how like any

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Speaker 4: Who would say that to Eddie?

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Speaker 3: You were trying to put doubt into someone's head who's

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Speaker 3: Because it's like, okay, a first of all, just going

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Speaker 3: She's addressing something that I would have absolutely addressed. You

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've been thinking about you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. And then when she's like someone said

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Speaker 4: Who that? There was one other? Sorry? Who else was

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Speaker 3: I don't think he likes Rose either, because when he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so was this like a producer move, like they

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Speaker 4: This is kind of what happens when there's no true villain.

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Speaker 3: It was so easy because we all just like baited

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the prom thing too, You're right, that was

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Speaker 4: We don't need it. We don't need the guys from

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Speaker 2: Okay, it seems like we're getting these weird eliminations where

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Speaker 2: Ali Joe has always been the girl that was like,

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Speaker 4: Oh, I want my time.

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting time for purpose. We know Ali Joe's purpose,

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Speaker 4: Alisha last week was weird.

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Speaker 2: And there's no way, oh he had a connection with

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Speaker 2: Alicia Knight one for sure, and then for it to

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Speaker 4: Two very very weird.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, Well, so then then Chloe

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Speaker 2: the model, she goes home as well.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: And now we see the preview for the next few weeks,

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Speaker 2: and we hear Rose in the background saying, you stabbed

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Speaker 2: and you backstabbed me.

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Speaker 4: You did me dirty?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 4: I don't know how. I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: I really hope we're not the only ones that see this,

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Speaker 3: because this is actually crazy. Yeah, if we somehow made her,

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Speaker 3: maybe she'll do more crazy stuff. But I think Rose

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Speaker 3: is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Look, Carolina is not. She's She doesn't come across me

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Speaker 2: as innocent, right.

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Speaker 3: She was straddling him making out with them.

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Speaker 2: There's something very emotional about her, and you know you

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Speaker 2: and I are very very emotional. You can't like we're

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Speaker 2: the last people to talk. But like, she definitely has

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Speaker 2: like that thing where it's like she's not one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent beloved, which like you and I weren't one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent beloved either. Because some people, and especially the way

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Speaker 2: they portray people personalities like ours, it always comes across as.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, watch out for her. She might be so

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Speaker 4: what's going on? But in this situation, it's definitely Rose

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Speaker 4: in the wrong.

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Speaker 3: I agree, and I think we're just not gonna see it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna.

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Speaker 2: I don't see what happens well and definitely God as well.

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Speaker 3: So that was the episode.

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Speaker 2: We will be getting on one of these girls, Bailey, Ali,

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Speaker 2: Joe to tell us what happened to Beverly and we

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Speaker 2: will do that next week because I'll make them give

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Speaker 2: us that.

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Speaker 3: Please why and I'm we need answers. We need someone

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Speaker 3: on the inside because this is wrong. All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, good times as always. Rachel, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being here.

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Speaker 4: We love you.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't caught our episode breaking down the

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Speaker 2: breaking news that is that the Bachelorette's not coming back,

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Speaker 2: join me and Rachel and Trista for that one as well.

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Speaker 2: That's up on our feed. We love you guys, till

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Speaker 2: next time. I'll see you then, Yes, good luck out there.

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