Speaker 1: I actually went camping with my kids' school this weekend
Speaker 1: with your.
Speaker 2: Kids hopefully, Nah, just.
Speaker 1: Fuck them now. They're kind of annoying, So I just
Speaker 1: go out and you know, kick it. Uh yeah, But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like I got insight into
Speaker 1: this thing that keeps coming up in the news, the
Speaker 1: achievement gap that's happening between like girls and boys. And
Speaker 1: there's it like starts early apparently, Like there's just this
Speaker 1: like big New York Times podcast about it where they're
Speaker 1: like boys are developing later and like they need to
Speaker 1: start later. And I was actually like around kids at
Speaker 1: the age where this divide is opening up, and I
Speaker 1: heard what they were talking about, because like the idea
Speaker 1: is that like boys are like going to college at
Speaker 1: a lower rate. Like the divide is actually bigger now
Speaker 1: between girls and boys than it was when Title nine
Speaker 1: like first started, and so it's just like the boys,
Speaker 1: the boys have fallen off.
Speaker 2: The boys are back in town because they're not going
Speaker 2: to school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody talks about that. The reason the boys are
Speaker 1: back in town is they're not going to school. But
Speaker 1: I did actually get some insight from these little girls
Speaker 1: at my kids' school, because they were saying that the
Speaker 1: one of the big differences that girls go to college
Speaker 1: to get more knowledge and boys go to Jupiter to
Speaker 1: get more stupider.
Speaker 2: That which I think I read that on.
Speaker 1: That is fucking huge if true, I've med.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week Trend
Speaker 3: edition of.
Speaker 1: A long Week Trend. And my name's Jack O'Brien. I
Speaker 1: am thrilled to be joined by a very special guest
Speaker 1: co hosts, a hilarious stand up comedian, writer, actor, improviser.
Speaker 1: You can catch her on stand up stages everywhere. Check
Speaker 1: her website. It is.
Speaker 2: I'd like to thank the Academy for letting me be
Speaker 2: on here, and just everyone I stepped on on my
Speaker 2: way at the top, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And that is the names that they name when they're
Speaker 1: going up there or they're saying all the people who
Speaker 1: they've fucked over on my team of people who I've
Speaker 1: treated like absolute shit, Hollby, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm still a little like tired fucked up
Speaker 1: from like going camping this weekend and just you know,
Speaker 1: not sleeping well sleeping weird angles on my back.
Speaker 2: In honor of Columbus. Were you camping in other people's yards?
Speaker 1: Yes, and claiming that I had discovered them. Wow.
Speaker 2: Incredible traditional, a tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 1: All right, well, this is the episode where we tell
Speaker 1: people what happened over the weekend, over the long weekend
Speaker 1: of this case. But first we let them get to
Speaker 1: know us a little bit better. That's a gift that
Speaker 1: we're providing for them. They're allowed to get to know
Speaker 1: us a little bit better. You're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the haunted house that is my mind. That's right,
Speaker 2: spiderwebs and bats flying through there. So first we like
Speaker 2: to tell you some things we think are overrated. Underrated Paulavy,
Speaker 2: do you want to kick us off with an underrated? Yes?
Speaker 2: Underrated is living in a multi generational households. Boy do
Speaker 2: I hate paying friends? But also I'm going to India
Speaker 2: again this year, and I'm very excited because I really
Speaker 2: love like staying with family, and then you have like
Speaker 2: friends for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Someone's always providing food.
Speaker 2: There's there's always like in in house childcare or someone
Speaker 2: to hang out with. And I think, I just think
Speaker 2: it's awesome and I feel like in the US, we
Speaker 2: don't do that enough, you know, like we just find
Speaker 2: weird roommates on Craigslist to replace our parents, you know,
Speaker 2: and then then we're splitting rent with people whose habits
Speaker 2: we don't understand. And I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: it's too individualistic, you know. I miss that community, part.
Speaker 1: Of a community, that a tradition unlike any others. Is
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm going to keep saying the NBC motto
Speaker 1: for the Masters, but yeah, it goes way back, and
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of wonderful. We are now a multi
Speaker 1: generational household as well. We've got my my wife's parents
Speaker 1: living with us, and they are so wonderful. I get
Speaker 1: to eat so much delicious Korean food, and the childcare MA.
Speaker 2: Can't be amazing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Really, it's all the time in between work you get
Speaker 2: to spend with your family. It's great.
Speaker 1: I know, it's great, all right. My underrated I got
Speaker 1: two one is the size of Africa. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: in between being in the out out of doors, I
Speaker 1: was scrolling Twitter and came across a couple of maps
Speaker 1: that emphasized how wild the mercidor projection like is do
Speaker 1: you do you know what that is? Like? The map
Speaker 1: that is in most was in most elementary schools. I actually,
Speaker 1: uh spend shockingly little time in elementary schools these days.
Speaker 1: But compared to where it started, Man, you would have
Speaker 1: thought I would be in elementary schools all the time,
Speaker 1: the way I spent time in elementary schools when I
Speaker 1: was a kid. But yeah, the map that basically makes
Speaker 1: it look like the contiguous United States is the center
Speaker 1: of the universe and as big as Africa.
Speaker 2: And I don't understand. It's pretty anti American of you
Speaker 2: to say that it's not the biggest part of the globe.
Speaker 2: And I think you're trying to use lasers to reduce.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to use lasers to control the weather always.
Speaker 1: But that's just a personal hobby of mine. So like,
Speaker 1: Russia was always my kind of go to for biggest thing,
Speaker 1: nothing bigger than Russia, Like it goes from Europe to Asia.
Speaker 1: Africa is eleven point seven million square miles, Russia is
Speaker 1: like six point six. It's like Africa is so much
Speaker 1: bigger than Russian And granted Africa as a continent in
Speaker 1: Russia as a nation, but it's still just like on
Speaker 1: these maps that emphasize the northern hemisphere so much. It
Speaker 1: really is I don't know, it's who knew that, Like.
Speaker 2: I think I had why it's called the Global South Jack,
Speaker 2: it takes up most of the globe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they're just like yeah, and then there's like
Speaker 1: some places down there that you don't have to really
Speaker 1: worry about. I'll link off to a couple of the
Speaker 1: like images that kind of blew my mind. And then
Speaker 1: there's a there's a better map that is like more
Speaker 1: accurate in terms of land map like relative size of
Speaker 1: the land masses. But it looks to my broken brain,
Speaker 1: it looks like wildly warped, Like why why are you
Speaker 1: warping it like that? And it's just like no, the
Speaker 1: I'm just so used to the version that makes Africa
Speaker 1: look like it's the same size as Greenland, and meanwhile
Speaker 1: it is actually fourteen times the size of Greenland and
Speaker 1: they look basically the same size on the map.
Speaker 2: I think it's such an imperialistic human thing that we
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, we finally have the technology and the
Speaker 2: knowledge to map out the world accurately, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: put out propaganda right exactly. We know what it is
Speaker 2: we're just not going to use it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the way that we got to that map
Speaker 1: is through like navigation, and like it's helpful for knowing
Speaker 1: like which direction various things are, like navigating the oceans,
Speaker 1: but it's not helpful in terms of like knowing how
Speaker 1: big everything is and how tiny everything is.
Speaker 2: Not the first time men have mixed up what's big
Speaker 2: and tiny, But it.
Speaker 1: Is not the first time, and you are correct about that.
Speaker 1: And I made that joke when I went into my kids'
Speaker 1: elementary school room and I had to change the map out,
Speaker 1: And yeah, now this is why I spend surprising a
Speaker 1: little there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a camping trip. You were kicked out, Jack,
Speaker 2: I was just outside the school.
Speaker 1: The other one. I just there's another amazing sports highlight
Speaker 1: being set to the Kanye West's Life of Pablo song
Speaker 1: father Stretch My Hands Part one, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: such a great moment. The WNBA like four point play highlight,
Speaker 1: and like the beginning of that song is just so
Speaker 1: beautiful and perfect for like an amazing highlight like this,
Speaker 1: And it's just so frustrating that I have to end
Speaker 1: up with his terrible verse about bleached assholes in my
Speaker 1: head every time I see that like that. It is
Speaker 1: truly one of the worst verses like by him, by anyone.
Speaker 1: It's just so.
Speaker 2: Dumb and I'm embarrassing. Just feel like you don't understand
Speaker 2: the artistic value of a bleached asshole jack. And maybe
Speaker 2: it's because you're white. May I think that's probably you
Speaker 2: don't understand the asshole colorism. But I think you should
Speaker 2: maybe step back and look at it through.
Speaker 1: A different line, look at my privilege. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that is like I've seen people. I actually google this.
Speaker 1: I was like, does everybody else think this part is stupid?
Speaker 1: And some people argue they're like, actually, it's a juxtaposition
Speaker 1: of like the sort of holy spiritual like music that
Speaker 1: starts it out and which is like a you know,
Speaker 1: sample from a gospel and then him rapping about debauchery
Speaker 1: is like kind of the theme of the album, and
Speaker 1: like that's like you can see it on the cover,
Speaker 1: but you don't, like, there's plenty of ways to rap
Speaker 1: about debauchery where you don't sound like the guy from
Speaker 1: forty year Old Virgin like trying so hard. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like cool, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Is this the same when did the one where he
Speaker 2: talks about poop come out. Was that like that was
Speaker 2: after Yeah? That was the next Yeah, so it was
Speaker 2: an escalation. You got to start talking about like dip
Speaker 2: your tone in, talk about bleached vassles, poop dey, scoopty whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, poopty scoopedy. God, I forgot about that. That album
Speaker 1: like doesn't exist in my mind the next one. I
Speaker 1: think Life of Pablo is the last Kanye album that
Speaker 1: really kind of stuck for me.
Speaker 2: But sometimes you have to truncate these people's or like
Speaker 2: different people's artistic entertainment careers, or like cut parts out
Speaker 2: where you're like that wasn't really who they are.
Speaker 1: Diversion, Yeah, I don't need the box set. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Okay, multi generational household listen,
Speaker 1: possible it was just your underrated listen.
Speaker 2: There's good things and bad things, and one of the
Speaker 2: bad things is they definitely know way too much about
Speaker 2: your bowel movements, and I'm like, stay out of my
Speaker 2: bleached fassle. Okay, you don't need to know, like why
Speaker 2: longer in the shower. You don't need to knock on
Speaker 2: my door while I'm masturbating, like this is there need
Speaker 2: there has to be a balance between the community and
Speaker 2: the love and the all up in your business entitlement.
Speaker 2: There's gotta be. There's gotta be.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was far less privacy than there
Speaker 1: used to be in our household.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're probably your in laws are doing wonderful
Speaker 2: things bringing you food, but maybe at the wrong times.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I feel like like there is
Speaker 2: beauty too, like the privacy and like independence of like
Speaker 2: living by yourself, because when I go back to India,
Speaker 2: I love the family stuff. Sorry, my dogs are playing
Speaker 2: and growling right now. Okay, very sweet, It's very cute. See,
Speaker 2: no privacy, they're doing it like right on top of me.
Speaker 2: But then they always are like where are you going?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? What are you going to get back?
Speaker 2: You didn't text me? You didn't And you have to
Speaker 2: like text like nine or ten people to not get
Speaker 2: in trouble. And I'm like, why am I I'm in
Speaker 2: my thirties, you.
Speaker 1: Know what's the car? Sitch? Where? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are we?
Speaker 1: When are you back? When? Yeah? Yeah? Especially with kids,
Speaker 1: like you have to be communicating ABC, always be communicating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're the kids are considered anyone who's not
Speaker 2: the oldest, So you're a kid, right exactly. They were like,
Speaker 2: why are you up so late? And You're like, I
Speaker 2: was reading, leave me.
Speaker 1: Alone, interesting reading. What were you reading. Let's get a
Speaker 1: little quiz on that. Yeah, I'd say overall worth it,
Speaker 1: but I do feel your pain on that. On that front,
Speaker 1: my overrated is trail mix, specifically, like getting more than
Speaker 1: forty percent of your calories from trail mix.
Speaker 2: So it's not trail mix, then it's people who only
Speaker 2: eat trail.
Speaker 1: I So I, as I mentioned up top, I went
Speaker 1: on a camping trip with my kids school. I decided
Speaker 1: to make some trail mix, and uh decided to just
Speaker 1: dump entire like containers of nuts and raisins and tart
Speaker 1: dried cherries the secret ingredient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are good.
Speaker 1: Crystallized ginger was a nice addition.
Speaker 2: That's good because kids are always like I frew up
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, we'll have some ginger.
Speaker 1: Good, rest your stomach a little bit, some minemp nuts
Speaker 1: because you got to and it was like really good.
Speaker 1: And also the size of a small child. When I
Speaker 1: was like through with mixing it, it was so big,
Speaker 1: so I was like carrying it was I felt like,
Speaker 1: I was, did you ever do the home economics like
Speaker 1: flower baby thing?
Speaker 2: And no, I didn't because I grew up in Utah
Speaker 2: and if they did that, they would have given us
Speaker 2: fourteen each and I refused.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was basically doing that home act project,
Speaker 1: but like eating my way through it over the course
Speaker 1: of the weekend and sharing it. People would just dip
Speaker 1: a little cup in it was.
Speaker 2: That is so cute.
Speaker 1: It was very pot like. I got a lot of compliments,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of validation. I ate way too
Speaker 1: much of it, and the effect that it had on
Speaker 1: my digestive system was not great. Like my god, at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the weekend, there was a question of
Speaker 1: whether I'd ever go to the bathroom again, and then
Speaker 1: at the end of the weekend there was a question
Speaker 1: of whether I'd ever stopped going to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was not ideal when you're like not at home.
Speaker 1: So just you know, a nice trail mix, great idea.
Speaker 1: You don't have to dump the entire bag of peanuts,
Speaker 1: cashes and pistachios in there, and you know, don't try
Speaker 1: and eat your way through age an entire human child
Speaker 1: worth of trail mix.
Speaker 2: I'm just like imagining you, like your kid rolling their
Speaker 2: ankle or something and being like, Daddy, pick me up,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I have the trail mix bag. I
Speaker 2: cannot put it.
Speaker 1: I thought I told you I got this trail mix bag.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we're going
Speaker 1: to come back and get into the news. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, and we always like to
Speaker 1: check in with Donald Trump see what he got up
Speaker 1: to over the weekend. It's like watching the wanderings of
Speaker 1: like a blacked out drunk person. You know, there's always
Speaker 1: something wild happening. In this case, at Trump's Coachella rally,
Speaker 1: police arrested a man named Verne Miller who reportedly showed
Speaker 1: up to the rally with guns, fake press credentials, and
Speaker 1: an unregistered SUV, and the sheriff who nabbed him had
Speaker 1: this quote, if you're asking me right now, I probably
Speaker 1: did have deputies that prevented the third assassination attempt. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, not to brag, but we're basically like
Speaker 1: the boys were basically heroes saving fascism.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying it wasn't you, it was the deputies.
Speaker 2: Is that what you were saying.
Speaker 1: I probably basically had I love it. I do love
Speaker 1: how they just can't help but be terribly unconcise in
Speaker 1: every sentence. If you're asking me right now, I probably
Speaker 1: did have deputies that prevented the third assess it. We
Speaker 1: ascertained a situation wherein my deputies did prevent the third
Speaker 1: assassination attempt.
Speaker 2: That was way too good of an impression. That is
Speaker 2: a hundred percent how they talk.
Speaker 1: So it turns out Verne Miller wasn't unassassin. First of all,
Speaker 1: dead giveaway no middle name.
Speaker 2: But also it sounds like a character from like Kurdvonnagut
Speaker 2: book or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just a Trump super fan, like
Speaker 1: he claims he's been active in helping him get reelected
Speaker 1: and was invited to the rally. I feel like we've
Speaker 1: had people like this who have had scary moments or
Speaker 1: run ins with people, like there's that guy with all
Speaker 1: the Trump shit on the outside of his van that
Speaker 1: had some terrifying behavior. And this guy is just like
Speaker 1: some rando who talked his way into the VIP area
Speaker 1: and when security picked up the fact that his car
Speaker 1: was unregistered, it was searched and they found a bunch
Speaker 1: of guns in there, which I feel like if you
Speaker 1: searched the cars of most people at a Trump rally,
Speaker 1: there would be a ton of guns in there.
Speaker 2: I know, it seems like it's arbitrary of like, if
Speaker 2: you find a lot of guns, isn't that you're like
Speaker 2: badge to get in, right, isn't that your credentials to
Speaker 2: get into a Trump rally?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd feel like they would be like, uh, we've
Speaker 1: got a bit of a situation here. Just searched his
Speaker 1: car and there's just prail mix, there's no there's no
Speaker 1: guns here, Like, he doesn't even have an AR fifteen here.
Speaker 2: I know, it's like he has a grenade that's patriots
Speaker 2: and him on through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And the reason why the vehicle was
Speaker 1: unregistered is because Miller is one of those sovereign citizen
Speaker 1: guys who thinks he doesn't have to like abide by
Speaker 1: any laws. He issued a seventy five minute video statement.
Speaker 1: You can find out all about it. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that the right has run with the whole
Speaker 1: assassination narrative, being like they're still trying to kill our president,
Speaker 1: which like it doesn't seem inconceivable to me that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump could be the victim of a like John Lennon
Speaker 1: Mark David Chapman situation where like one of his adherents
Speaker 1: decides for like convoluted reasons only they can understand, to
Speaker 1: like try and take him out. Like that's always been
Speaker 1: a thing that I've worried about, because he is the
Speaker 1: head of such a bizarre cult of personality that is
Speaker 1: comprised of like some of the strangest, most gun owningest
Speaker 1: humans on the planet. You know, it's just like that,
Speaker 1: make America guns again, make all of us guns. And
Speaker 1: then obviously if that happened, he'd get it get taken
Speaker 1: out of context, and you know, cause the Civil war
Speaker 1: or whatever. So it's like, I don't know. It does
Speaker 1: seem like a volatile situation, like his supporter base, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what is happening here. I think
Speaker 1: it was just a sovereign citizen sucking around and finding
Speaker 1: out why the laws apply to him.
Speaker 2: Did you see the video of him getting arrested. No,
Speaker 2: it was incredible. He was like his license plate was
Speaker 2: like it looked like he drew it with crayon, because
Speaker 2: he doesn't his sovereign citizenship thing is that he kept saying,
Speaker 2: you know, this land belongs to God or I'm under
Speaker 2: God's rule, et cetera. But he was trying to use
Speaker 2: it as like actual He's like, well, I don't have ID.
Speaker 2: My ID was is with God or whatever. And his
Speaker 2: license plate looked like it was made out of crayon.
Speaker 2: Like it was just he like, and they were so
Speaker 2: patient with this large white man. They were like, they
Speaker 2: asked multiple times for ID. They went back to their car.
Speaker 2: They were like, okay, well we really need ID, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I can't give you ID. I'm a soldier
Speaker 2: of God or whatever the fuck he said. And they
Speaker 2: just they were like, okay, well we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: arrest you. And he was like, well you like, you know,
Speaker 2: the authority is under God and like it just went
Speaker 2: back and forth for so. I was like, if this
Speaker 2: man was black, he would have been shot, Like this
Speaker 2: is crazy. Of course it was, and he was and
Speaker 2: he got out and he was actually like not like violent.
Speaker 2: He was just like why would I have ID? He
Speaker 2: was like, he was like why, It's like this land
Speaker 2: belongs to God like and it was just I was
Speaker 2: kind of like Okay, this is like hippie vibes in
Speaker 2: the wrong direction, you know what I mean. This is
Speaker 2: like a man who does need community and like a
Speaker 2: deeper purpose but went in the wrong you read it,
Speaker 2: you know, right. But it was just such a stark
Speaker 2: contrast because like the way he was talking, there's no
Speaker 2: way he would have been given that grace if he
Speaker 2: wasn't white, you know. So, I don't know, it was
Speaker 2: kind of a weird. It was a weird, a really
Speaker 2: strange interaction. I'm like, these people just exist out there
Speaker 2: in the world and they vote, you know, those videos
Speaker 2: of men who are being interviewed about like how a
Speaker 2: tampon works, and then people are like see, like they
Speaker 2: don't know anything. Get out your vote women, And it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: but how do we do that with crazy people?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like, how do we do They're all around us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, an entertaining mixture of people that I don't know
Speaker 1: it it seems like not not a great situation when
Speaker 1: there have been two assassination attempts already, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the sovereign citizens do all seem to have a similar
Speaker 1: look about them, don't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just going off of that, that was not
Speaker 1: the only wild thing to happen to Trump this weekend.
Speaker 1: Just a quick rundown of some stories that if they
Speaker 1: happened to Kamala Harris, I feel like, would probably be
Speaker 1: treated as campaign defining and campaign derailing by the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: So just at a rally in Arizona, he welcomed the
Speaker 1: many as your Asians in the crowd as your Asians.
Speaker 2: He's a huge man of sci Fi. I totally get it.
Speaker 1: Like Asians. Is that it was determined he was either
Speaker 1: trying to pronounce Assyrians or Arizonans because he was in Arizona,
Speaker 1: So like Arizona still makes the most sense to me.
Speaker 1: I guess there were people in the crowd who were
Speaker 1: wearing Assyrians for Trump shirts. But either way, just like, way,
Speaker 1: the fuck off as your Asians, like the Blue Man group.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just a huge fan. He's like they're drums.
Speaker 2: Biden would not like he if he stumbled like that,
Speaker 2: everybody would be like he's insane, and he.
Speaker 1: Would right yeah, and rightly so. And I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I do feel like this is getting sporadically like picked
Speaker 1: up by the mainstream media, like The New York Times
Speaker 1: recently wrote an article about how his age is increasingly
Speaker 1: apparent in his rambling and incoherent speeches.
Speaker 2: That's also how young stand ups feel about me, and I.
Speaker 1: Totally cat but like even in the audio of him
Speaker 1: welcoming the azure Asians, the stuff you hear just like
Speaker 1: incidentally after is like him going and we have many
Speaker 1: good people. They knew who they are. I can't say
Speaker 1: their names, like just like forgetting people's names and then
Speaker 1: like trying to cover up, and then he's like Robert O'Brien,
Speaker 1: I say his name because he brought these many great people.
Speaker 1: It's just like rambling nothing in there. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just not not saying anything.
Speaker 2: It's just your typical family reunion where Grandpa is just
Speaker 2: off by himself.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah. We also so there's also this moment
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to hold a town hall with Christine.
Speaker 2: Nome, famous dog Dog, famous dog lover.
Speaker 1: Christine No cut it off halfway through because people kept
Speaker 1: feigning in the audience.
Speaker 2: That's just because he was so hot, right, they couldn't
Speaker 2: handle it.
Speaker 1: Well. It does like have the same vibes as like
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson in the eighties, like you know, just people
Speaker 1: being lifted out because Trump's yeah he is bad and
Speaker 1: you know it to answer right down. I think I
Speaker 1: misheard what the actual lyrics are too bad. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's the whole world has to answer right down
Speaker 1: to the tell you once again. But that's what it
Speaker 1: was in my brain for a long time. Folks, his
Speaker 1: supporters like being treated like shit is another thread. It
Speaker 1: feels like the media could be running with a little
Speaker 1: more and would be with a Democrat, like if Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris and Tim Walls like kept leaving their supporters stranded
Speaker 1: or like just you know, the apparently the air conditioning
Speaker 1: wasn't turned up enough in this thing, and like multiple
Speaker 1: people were fainting at this town.
Speaker 2: Halls and so it's never going to be his fault.
Speaker 2: Like it is very cultish. I saw like a TikTok
Speaker 2: of a woman like describing her experience with a Trump
Speaker 2: supporter and like how like dead eyed and committed to
Speaker 2: the cause that the person she had the interaction with was.
Speaker 2: It's like there's nothing he could do, Like he said,
Speaker 2: he could like shoot somebody and they'd be like it's justified, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I don't know why,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think a mainstream media narrative is going
Speaker 1: to like change anyone's mind. It just feels weird because
Speaker 1: it does also feel at the same time as they're
Speaker 1: just they've kind of given up on change it. Like
Speaker 1: they're just like, yeah, but people seem to love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not like upholding their responsibility.
Speaker 1: But I feel like they're waiting for like a Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris slip up. You know, obviously not the slip up
Speaker 1: of refusing to break with Joe Biden's horrifying policy in Israel,
Speaker 1: as we'll talk about in a moment, but the like
Speaker 1: just you know, if she did any of these things,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it would be treated as like
Speaker 1: roof that she's unseerious and not ready for the job.
Speaker 1: So anyways, after the two people passed out at this
Speaker 1: town hall, he was just like, fuck the questions, let's
Speaker 1: listen to let's listen to some jams, and just did
Speaker 1: what apparently he does all the time in mar A
Speaker 1: Lago and just like plays music for people, and then
Speaker 1: kind of did like he does like a sort of
Speaker 1: dance thing where he just like kind of stands there
Speaker 1: and like sways a little bit.
Speaker 2: And he kind of does like a mini shimmy, like.
Speaker 1: Like every fifteen to twenty seconds, he'll like acknowledge that
Speaker 1: there's music on, but it's like very He really reminds
Speaker 1: me of like a self conscious guy whose wife is
Speaker 1: on the dance floor at a wedding and he's just
Speaker 1: like on the side like being like, Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: to acknowledge it the dance floor, so I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: my hands a little bit, but like just little half
Speaker 1: moves here and there.
Speaker 2: It's also so funny that he's like, here's just music
Speaker 2: that I'm not playing. That's not a live band, but
Speaker 2: it's just like, will you listen to this playlist that
Speaker 2: I made for.
Speaker 1: Like November Rain he played. It's so weird. He plays
Speaker 1: like Ave Maria and then November Rain, and yet he
Speaker 1: just played music for a half hour and was like
Speaker 1: standing on the stage not saying anything, and then the
Speaker 1: crowd just eventually started to like file out.
Speaker 2: That's the best case scenario for a Trump presidency is
Speaker 2: he does that every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, just like pumps up the jams and everyone's
Speaker 1: like all right, sir. Although the people that he would
Speaker 1: have running things probably would be making bad, bad choices
Speaker 1: but again, like just an excerpt from elsewhere in that
Speaker 1: like the shutting things down and playing music is the
Speaker 1: thing that obviously got the headlines. But like this is
Speaker 1: a paragraph that he said at one point, people put
Speaker 1: signs this gun or we have some of them actually
Speaker 1: even spell the kind of gun they have. We have
Speaker 1: an AK forty seven inside, And people say, you know what,
Speaker 1: let us just I knew about an AK forty seven
Speaker 1: from a few weeks ago in the AR fifteen. I
Speaker 1: know a lot. It's just like, what the fuck, Like
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to get it the like only
Speaker 1: good guys with guns can stop bad guys with guns thing,
Speaker 1: But like just that rail distracted, Yeah, yeah, exactly, and
Speaker 1: then he just gets distracted and chases a butterfly. Like
Speaker 1: if he wasn't so just out of step with nature,
Speaker 1: I could definitely see him chit chasing a butterfly.
Speaker 2: But if he wasn't so out of step with nature.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine him in nature of any Like I
Speaker 1: feel like he hasn't been in a forest in the
Speaker 1: entirety of his life.
Speaker 2: You're still on that camping trip man.
Speaker 1: Where to be fair, I was just chasing butterflies around way.
Speaker 2: Down by the weight of drail mix exactly. He if
Speaker 2: he chased a butterfly, it would be this like beautiful
Speaker 2: like music in the background, him running through a field,
Speaker 2: and then he would fucking kill the butterfly and the
Speaker 2: music would stop.
Speaker 1: He grab it and just yeah, trying like put it
Speaker 1: in his pocket. All right, on the other side of things,
Speaker 1: So is it the other side? I mean it's the
Speaker 1: same side, because this seems like what would be doing.
Speaker 1: But this continues to be a massive liability for the
Speaker 1: Harris campaign in addition to just being absolutely horrifying and enraging.
Speaker 1: So Israel continues to commit war crimes in Gaza and
Speaker 1: you know, the West Bank. According to everyone who is
Speaker 1: not the United States, Like heading into the weekend, Israel
Speaker 1: was accused of war crimes by the United Nations over
Speaker 1: there quote concerted policy to destroy Gaza's healthcare system. And
Speaker 1: that was then before the world witnessed the horror of
Speaker 1: a tent camp outside of a hospital being engulfed in
Speaker 1: flames and you know, people with ivs in their arms
Speaker 1: being burned alive. Like they made that accusation first, and
Speaker 1: then that happened.
Speaker 2: I genuinely might cry, like, right, because I know, it's
Speaker 2: so horrifying, it's awful and I can't get and the
Speaker 2: thing is, like I saw images of a man being
Speaker 2: run over by a tank, like I don't know how
Speaker 2: long ago, and it's just like every day. The evil
Speaker 2: that I see that people are co signing and enthusiastically
Speaker 2: lending their support for it is very devastating to my
Speaker 2: picture of humanity and like what we're capable of. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the only thing that is like making me feel
Speaker 2: better is the actual other side of that, where I'm
Speaker 2: seeing like Palestinians taking care of each other and like
Speaker 2: taking care of like the cats that are displaced. Like
Speaker 2: I have to watch those videos because everything else that
Speaker 2: I'm seeing by the powers that the is like devastating. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is, so it's so sad.
Speaker 1: It's so sad. It's yeah, it's truly horrifying, and it's
Speaker 1: enraging that this is the hill that they're going to
Speaker 1: die on, like the Harris campaign, like you know, the
Speaker 1: Israeli military is just increasingly like belligerent and like yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, like that accusation came and then they
Speaker 1: bombed the time camp outside of a hospital.
Speaker 2: And I saw like some thing in Haretz or whatever
Speaker 2: that was like Netanyahu's no longer looking for peace or
Speaker 2: a ceasefire, and it's like he never fucking was, and
Speaker 2: we all knew he wasn't. And he literally was like, well,
Speaker 2: we're going to see in the next forty five days,
Speaker 2: at like the forty five day mark for our election.
Speaker 2: Like they're like, it is so frustrating how many lives,
Speaker 2: like human life these people are playing with when I
Speaker 2: don't think being the head of a nation state and
Speaker 2: dows you with the ability to discern what is important
Speaker 2: in terms of human life and gives it, doesn't give
Speaker 2: you a right to take it away. I'm like, these
Speaker 2: are people who don't give a fuck about your policies
Speaker 2: or your agenda. Their kids. They're people like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think being the head of a government means that
Speaker 2: the people are actually giving you like this social contract
Speaker 2: where you can just play with their lives like it
Speaker 2: is fucked like such a human level. But yeah, he's
Speaker 2: not searching for a peaceful solution. This is what he
Speaker 2: wanted to do the whole time. This is what he
Speaker 2: wanted to drag the US into. And we're so fucking
Speaker 2: stupid and so stubborn that we just went along with it,
Speaker 2: and it's just like now where to where, Like where
Speaker 2: will she turn back? She's been so she lost all
Speaker 2: the steam of Tim Waltz being the yeah, the pool
Speaker 2: the right pick by just being so like Roe Republican.
Speaker 2: It's like you're telling there's this There are all these
Speaker 2: tweets and comments online that are like you're telling us
Speaker 2: Republicans are bad and then that you're gonna work with
Speaker 2: them and put them in your cabinet.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and you're telling thing about fucking the co
Speaker 1: sign from Dick Cheney, the person who is basically the
Speaker 1: architect of the War on Terror, which is like largely
Speaker 1: what we're seeing a continuation of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you're also saying these people are responsible
Speaker 2: for Roe v. Wade falling and you want them in
Speaker 2: your fucking ca or to campaign with them.
Speaker 1: It's baffling.
Speaker 2: You're using their talking points on immigration from like four
Speaker 2: years ago for your platform now like you're moving more right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the triangulation thing we've been saying all along
Speaker 1: is like the mistake that the Democratic Party continues to make.
Speaker 1: There like well, we've got to move more right, and
Speaker 1: then we capture this big tent, but it actually just
Speaker 1: makes you the second cruelest of like a cruel political establishment,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't do anything for you, Like there's more
Speaker 1: Donegan in the Guardian is like the truth is that
Speaker 1: Netnahu's style of governance, his bigotry is corruption. His advancement
Speaker 1: of violent and exclusionary nationalism is part of a broader
Speaker 1: trend of far right authoritarianism. It is the same trend
Speaker 1: that Harris aims to defeat in her campaign against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Like that there it's so clear, like the path of
Speaker 1: just being like worre are going to break with this
Speaker 1: right wing bullshit? Instead, it's at every angle it feels
Speaker 1: like the campaign is trying to appease that, and.
Speaker 2: It's you can't be like you can't say that the
Speaker 2: Republicans are bad and then like try to be as
Speaker 2: racist as them but not accomplish that, Like those voters
Speaker 2: are going to stay with Republicans, right, that is just
Speaker 2: not going to happen. You can't outpatriot the Republicans, you
Speaker 2: can't out racist the Republicans. All you're doing is making
Speaker 2: us more like people on the left progressives, even like
Speaker 2: you think people in this center are okay with what's
Speaker 2: happening with Israel in terms of like the money being
Speaker 2: spent there, like average Americans are looking at like grocery prices,
Speaker 2: are looking at like the economy, the rent, even if
Speaker 2: they don't give a shit about what's happening in other countries.
Speaker 2: That being like such a big aspect of your platform
Speaker 2: right now is not going to help you in the
Speaker 2: little time we have left. Yeah, like we have weeks
Speaker 2: left at this point. That is crazy. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be so paid. This is We're in such a bad
Speaker 2: position right now. It was like forty nine forty four
Speaker 2: or something after the debate, and now it's like forty
Speaker 2: eight forty eight or something. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is that same like bullshit logic that
Speaker 1: led to twenty sixteen. And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's something we'll need to change. I think, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come right back
Speaker 1: and talk about something that's not this. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back and we're back. Let's talk Elon Musk, because he
Speaker 1: is building the few future by copying off of sci
Speaker 1: fi movies. So we went viral over the weekend for
Speaker 1: his we Robot event. Certainly you've heard of I Robot,
Speaker 1: Well what about we robot? Elon Musk famously great at
Speaker 1: community building.
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of Trump and Elon still being famous.
Speaker 2: Like I know, I don't want to, I don't want
Speaker 2: to keep talking about them. I know we have to,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, when will they go away?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I wonder if they ever will. It really
Speaker 1: feels like narcissism and extreme wealth are the cheat codes
Speaker 1: for this current version of reality. Unfortunately, Yeah, hopefully we
Speaker 1: get over that. But yeah, So the big rollout was
Speaker 1: for Tesla's Robotaxi, but the real star of the show
Speaker 1: was the Optimist robot. He's just pulling from anything. He's
Speaker 1: pulling from transformers, He's pulling from my robot.
Speaker 2: He's going to make like a sandworm soon.
Speaker 1: Yes, he would be like super into spice, the idea
Speaker 1: of like a psychedelic that helps you navigate space, and
Speaker 1: he and Joe.
Speaker 2: Rogan are going to do on their next podcast exactly.
Speaker 1: I hope he does try to navigate space on psychedelics
Speaker 1: and is the only person aboard that ill faded space mission.
Speaker 2: It makes me really sad that all these people do
Speaker 2: like a bunch of psychedelics and like have not learned it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like I've actually figured out a way
Speaker 1: to optimize my schedule. Wait what, that's what mushrooms told you?
Speaker 1: But did you see the footage of Optimists?
Speaker 2: I saw like different footage from the event, and how
Speaker 2: like the bartenders, Like were the bartenders considered optimists too?
Speaker 2: Or were they? It was a robots, but they but
Speaker 2: they were like real voices, like they were manually operated,
Speaker 2: and like there were people talking and like I was like,
Speaker 2: this just sounds like a dude from Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1: That's because that's what it was. A Yeah, so people
Speaker 1: were like, holy shit, he made robots that can like
Speaker 1: play rock paper scissor and like serve you a drink
Speaker 1: like they were like doing bartender. People were like, good
Speaker 1: luck with your twenty dollars minimum wage now that elon
Speaker 1: do robot that can do this, not never thinking about
Speaker 1: the fact that even were this to be the AI
Speaker 1: driven thing that they claimed, it would be immensely expensive.
Speaker 2: But anyways, and also and also like everybody was like,
Speaker 2: that's not the fucking point of a bartender. It's not
Speaker 2: to be like a vending machine. The point of a
Speaker 2: bartender is to like similar to like how a hairdresser
Speaker 2: like is part of the culture and like a human
Speaker 2: being and interacts with you and gives you shot.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we just got to take the humanity out of
Speaker 1: every aspect. Yeah, that's true. Like hairdresser and bartender are
Speaker 1: like the remaining points of human interaction, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we got to get these fuckers out of here. They're
Speaker 1: reminding people of what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Elon's like human connection. Who needs that?
Speaker 1: Not me? Yeah. He bragged that Optimists will be the
Speaker 1: biggest product ever of any kind because he's you know,
Speaker 1: prone to understatement, and showed videos in which Optimist brings
Speaker 1: in Amazon deliveries that were probably also done by robots
Speaker 1: and water house plants. While like a family plays Jenga
Speaker 1: in the foreground and the Optimist manages to resist the
Speaker 1: urge to kill its human masters, it really feels kind
Speaker 1: of ominous.
Speaker 2: This is also how he views people who work for him,
Speaker 2: Like he views them as robots in the background. That's
Speaker 2: why he's like they can be easily replaced by robots
Speaker 2: in the background. Like he doesn't value labor, that isn't
Speaker 2: like destroying like democracy, right.
Speaker 1: What do we hate other people, right, so I've solved
Speaker 1: this problem. I've solved the problem of other humans. So
Speaker 1: this event had optimism Optimize sprinkled around the event. Interacting
Speaker 1: with people, everybody was like oh shit, you yeah, dunking
Speaker 1: on the service industry, being like it's over for you
Speaker 1: people who do manual labor and like who do important
Speaker 1: chill in your face, but yeah, like this is just
Speaker 1: another fake demo from Elon Musk. He's done this so
Speaker 1: many times. He did self driving cars like seven years ago,
Speaker 1: and they were not self driving. He totally like he
Speaker 1: had somebody controlling them from a distance, and also they
Speaker 1: had like scanned in the root and like done all
Speaker 1: these things. So but people believed in self driving cars
Speaker 1: for the past decade because he faked a demo.
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, he'll figure out the tech soon enough,
Speaker 2: you know, like they're like it's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So these were just robotic puppets that were
Speaker 1: being operated remotely by humans.
Speaker 2: Sounds like Elon Musk, if you ye me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like I was at first, I was like that
Speaker 1: feels like that would be hard to do, even like
Speaker 1: to to operate remote control a robot so that it
Speaker 1: like picked up a glass and like poured the beer
Speaker 1: for you. But then I remembered that the mechanical turk
Speaker 1: that is like from two hundred years ago, it was
Speaker 1: the chess playing automaton that oh my god, Amazon actually
Speaker 1: named their like one of their companies after because their
Speaker 1: whole like they recognize that their whole trick is to
Speaker 1: like hide the humans behind you know, shiny technology. Uh god,
Speaker 1: it like it was also doing the same thing. Like
Speaker 1: I think I had at some point assumed that the
Speaker 1: mechanical turk was like a human in a robot costume,
Speaker 1: but it was also just there was somebody in a
Speaker 1: hidden compartment controlling it with levers, and it was able
Speaker 1: to like pick up the chess pieces and move them around.
Speaker 1: So there's like nothing new here. This is two hundred
Speaker 1: year old technology.
Speaker 2: That is so funny that I was going to say,
Speaker 2: like all of the like robo bus and shit, it's
Speaker 2: like people just like in reinventing public transport, it's just
Speaker 2: people like trying to make shinier and more sleek what's
Speaker 2: already out there and needs funding, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly, just find ways to further deprive people
Speaker 1: of the thing that we need. The most and replace
Speaker 1: with robots and technology and just as remove the face
Speaker 1: to face communication at any cost, including in this case,
Speaker 1: they're replacing bartenders who, as people were like, there goes
Speaker 1: your twenty dollars paycheck, asshole. You know, the people who
Speaker 1: operate these robots remotely make as much as forty eight
Speaker 1: dollars an hour, so they're removing them at cost to
Speaker 1: do the job more slowly.
Speaker 2: But the benefit is that they're more of a fit
Speaker 2: for the company, you know what I mean, because they
Speaker 2: are Silicon Valley people and not like manual labor, low
Speaker 2: skilled people, you know what I mean. That's right, But
Speaker 2: that's like something else that like really fucking bothers me
Speaker 2: having come from STEM. Girls in STEM they quit for
Speaker 2: stand up. I'm trying to deal with the gap between education.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to reverse it by getting dumber as I
Speaker 2: get older, going to Jupiter, so to speak, I'm defying
Speaker 2: the gender by by going to Jupiter to get more stupider.
Speaker 2: There is such a deep level of arrogance in a
Speaker 2: lot of tech people's like bodies, like they just like
Speaker 2: it's so deeply ingrained that because they use brain and computer,
Speaker 2: brain and computer better than other people, you know, and
Speaker 2: like the fact that they're willing to allow themselves to
Speaker 2: be tricked by aesthetics and trends will never penetrate to
Speaker 2: make them feel like shallow or part of the culture
Speaker 2: or just human like everybody else. Like they like that
Speaker 2: person making forty eight dollars an hour, they will always
Speaker 2: justify it as being like a higher skilled, more specialized,
Speaker 2: you know job than the average like warehouse worker or
Speaker 2: whatever who's like operating you know, machinery in a similar way,
Speaker 2: because they have to be better, because they have to
Speaker 2: have a reason to justify their place in like cold
Speaker 2: right now, and how much money they're making, and like
Speaker 2: they have to be special because they were told growing
Speaker 2: up that they're special and they're smart, and that makes
Speaker 2: them like better than other people. And it fucking doesn't
Speaker 2: like you were tricked by shiny robots just like everybody else.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're taking big swings. They've got to do big
Speaker 1: swings in this case, like he stole the whole look
Speaker 1: like that was another thing that was controversial, Like people
Speaker 1: did point out, like there are people who are like Tesla,
Speaker 1: Like they cover Tesla as their main beat and they
Speaker 1: were like, this is uh completely quote totally dishonest demo
Speaker 1: is what they called it, which they were just like, man,
Speaker 1: why would you completely lie, like because he did the
Speaker 1: thing and like didn't admit that they're being remotely controlled.
Speaker 1: That just like came out later so insane.
Speaker 2: Also, I want to say, like I saw a tweet
Speaker 2: about how like Donald Trump would be an amazing real heimewife,
Speaker 2: and I feel the same way about Elon Musk, Like
Speaker 2: this is one hundred percent what real housewives are about,
Speaker 2: their throwing parties where they appear to be like fancier
Speaker 2: and better than everybody else, and then everybody gets mad
Speaker 2: because it's not what it looks like, and then everybody
Speaker 2: gossips about it. I'm like, just go on one of
Speaker 2: these shows, just be a real billionaire and just leave
Speaker 2: reality alone.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll even laugh at you, Elan, I know that's
Speaker 1: like your main thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, bitch, be messy, come on, this is up your aisle, slut.
Speaker 1: That I mean. They also just like copied the look
Speaker 1: from an Eye Robot. Yeah, and so the filmmaker behind
Speaker 1: the movie I Robot was like, hey, man, thanks for
Speaker 1: completely stealing our design book. But I don't know that
Speaker 1: side of it. There's been a long history, like they
Speaker 1: stole tablets from two thousand and one and Star Trek,
Speaker 1: like they had iPads basically years before. And I think
Speaker 1: that's just generally, like you said, these are just like
Speaker 1: weird people who are stealing ideas to try and make
Speaker 1: the world look like some version of things in their mind.
Speaker 2: And I can understand, like, Okay, the technology needs to
Speaker 2: catch up with the art, because art is always imagining
Speaker 2: things in the future, and I can understand that happening,
Speaker 2: and it has happened in like science fiction and all
Speaker 2: sorts of things. But it is your fucking company, Like
Speaker 2: have some vision, like have fun with it, Like it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like what everybody else thinks it
Speaker 2: should look like it could be a new, cooler thing
Speaker 2: that people didn't realize they needed. But you're too egoistic
Speaker 2: and narcissistic, but like simultaneously lack creativity to like make
Speaker 2: something cool and new.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do have to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: jam who called the story more like lie robot am
Speaker 1: I right, So WIT's for him? All right. Those are
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