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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and this week on the show, we are

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Speaker 1: discussing the white tail rut and I'm breaking down my

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Speaker 1: first week in November hunt in two. All right, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: First Light, and today we are deep in the white

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Speaker 1: tail rut. When you're listening to this, we are still

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Speaker 1: in the peak best of the year. Time to be

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Speaker 1: deer hunting. It should be great. And what I want

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Speaker 1: to do for you today is share some important lessons learned,

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Speaker 1: some high level ideas and specific tactics and different things

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Speaker 1: that you can do to have success over the coming

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Speaker 1: days and weeks. And the way I want to do

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Speaker 1: that is by telling you the story of the hunt

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Speaker 1: that I just finished up. I just finished up hunting

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Speaker 1: one Week in November. This is UH as part of

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Speaker 1: a show that we film called One Week in November,

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Speaker 1: and basically, if you are not familiar with the show,

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Speaker 1: it follows myself and this year, four other hunters as

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Speaker 1: we hunt different parts of the country for the first

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Speaker 1: seven days of November and you get to see what

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Speaker 1: each day of that month looks like as we go through,

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Speaker 1: you know everything the RUT can throw at you. So

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you my story. I want to

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Speaker 1: break down how things went for me and use that

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Speaker 1: of different deer hunting ideas, specifically for how to have

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Speaker 1: success at the time of the year. But before we

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Speaker 1: get into that, I want to, uh, I want to

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Speaker 1: might have missed last week. I just mentioned this is

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Speaker 1: the best time of year, right, you might say it's

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Speaker 1: the most wonderful time to kill deer. Now if you

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Speaker 1: miss this, at the end of last week's podcast, we

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Speaker 1: had a special little surprise for all of you, a

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Speaker 1: song that was produced by our two podcast producers, Phil

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Speaker 1: and Hayden, who put together an amazing original rendition of

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Speaker 1: what we are now calling the most Wonderful time to

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Speaker 1: kill deer. It is a riff on the most wonderful

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Speaker 1: time of the year, the Christmas Carol, which we talked

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Speaker 1: about uh last week. I guess in RUT Fresh Radio me,

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Speaker 1: Casey and Tyler, we're talking about how somebody needs to

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Speaker 1: write a song about this, but a deer hunting version

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Speaker 1: of it, you know, taking the Christmas carol and making

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Speaker 1: it a deer hunting song. Well, Hayden and Phil went

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Speaker 1: end of last week. But I know some of you

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Speaker 1: may not have made it all the way to the

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Speaker 1: to it now, so to say, at the mood for

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Speaker 1: today's episode, to really get our spirits right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: listen to this truly amazing Christmas slash run hunting song. Hayden,

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Speaker 1: cue the music boys. Good to see you, Hayden. It's

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Speaker 1: been a while. Hey, sorry, I'm late. I crashed my

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Speaker 1: ponty at gast. I can do a light pool and

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Speaker 1: how to walk the rest of the way. But I'm

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Speaker 1: here now. That's what matters. Give me a glass of Scotch, please, Hayden.

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Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time to kill dear with the

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Speaker 1: half happyest season of all. There's gotta be at least

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Speaker 1: will be narrow missed stories and tales of your glories

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Speaker 1: But no one told me it's the most wonderful time

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Speaker 1: do better from it. Last week if you remember it,

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Speaker 1: It's completely unplanned. I have no notes, I have no anything.

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Speaker 1: hope this is helpful. So let's set the stage. My

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Speaker 1: that Ohio property looks like this, you know, in comparison

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Speaker 1: thanks for hopping on the podcast. Man. It was getting

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Speaker 1: So yeah, eventually we found what we thought was the best,

431
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: you know, given what we were trying to do. And

432
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: the main things I was trying to do is I

433
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: want to be in the pinch, but I also wanted

434
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: to be tight enough to the river that I could

435
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: have the wind blow while also being kind of close

436
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: to one of the betting ears, so at least we

437
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: can kind of be seeing what's going on in there

438
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: a little bit. So basically I was looking where that

439
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: piece of timber pinched down to the narrowest at the

440
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: very beginning of that pinch, and then trying to get

441
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: my wind blowing over the river. And and we eventually

442
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: found a tree that that did that. Um. Took a

443
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: while head to trim a bunch of those branches off

444
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: as we were climbing up there to get situated and

445
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: make a room for both of us. But we got

446
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: in there daylight arrives, and do we see. I think

447
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: the first dear was a dope and she came from

448
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the grassy stuff, headed into our river corridor and head

449
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: into the bedding area. Um. And then I think the

450
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: second deer was a buck, right, I think that was

451
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: when we saw that nice. I think it was a

452
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: ten pointer, but a couple of busted times on one side.

453
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: And he came from the grassy plain stuff as well,

454
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: and then headed to this little patch of like three

455
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: little scrubby trees out in the middle of nowhere and

456
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: just walked straight to them and then just started working them,

457
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: made a couple of scrapes, rubbed up on some bushes,

458
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: just put on a show. Um. I mean it was beautiful,

459
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: isn't the sun hitting the back of it his sunlight

460
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: hitting the back of his breath, and it was just

461
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: picture perfect. Yeah, everything you could ask for. He was.

462
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Unfortunately though, he he just did that and then turned

463
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: and headed straight uh north. I guess it would have

464
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: been headed straight down to one of the betting areas,

465
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: but on the other side of the property line. We

466
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: were about a hundred hundred twenty yards or something from

467
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: the edge of the property and he was on the

468
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: other side and heading into a betting area over there. Um.

469
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: I tried grunting and I tried rattling, and neither one

470
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: of those things really turned him at all. Um did

471
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: he did he even look? I can't remember. I do

472
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: think he looked, but I think he had a mission. Yeah,

473
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: he was. He was determined to do something different. So

474
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: he went off that way and disappeared. And from there

475
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: we saw I think four more white tail does and

476
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: then four mui does actually um, and then that was

477
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: it for the morning. Yeah, And it was just very

478
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: interesting to observe. Um. You know this group of trees

479
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: which is maybe two three out in the middle of

480
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: nowhere along a fence line, and that's that was the hub.

481
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, those white tails. The does that came in

482
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: after him went to that same scrape, and I mean

483
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: that tree had to have been you know, a hunt

484
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred yards hundred fifty yards from even

485
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: the river corridor that we were on. So it was

486
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: just so unique to watch how these deer using this terrain,

487
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, and you and I are so like eastern

488
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: focus for the most part that it's just really cool

489
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: to train and wrap our heads around, like what the

490
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: heck these things are doing? And you know, coming out

491
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: of that, like seeing what that buck did and where

492
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: he had going back into that betting are in the neighbors,

493
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: and then you know, not seeing any cruising bucks working

494
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: the river the way I thought they would. Um. You know,

495
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed and concerned with that, um

496
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: enough that I was thinking, like, man, do we need

497
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: to push down closer to that betting area on the

498
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: neighbors Do we need to move over there somehow? Are

499
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: all the deer coming in and out of there? You know?

500
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Two of the good bucks I saw the night before

501
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: had come out of there. Um, So I was a

502
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: little worried about this spot I picked, but unsure, So

503
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I ended up getting out of the tree, leaving everything

504
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: in the tree, but getting out and just signed just

505
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: like scout down a little bit and just see like

506
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: is there another tree that would still work for our

507
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: wind and still work at this pinch? Point, but give

508
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: us a view at least into the neighboring bedding area. UM.

509
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: So I snuck over there, and long story short, I

510
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: just couldn't find anything that would check all the boxes.

511
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: I really, um, I really didn't want to blow my

512
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: wind into one of these inside corners where there's likely

513
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: deer bedded and if I went any further than basically

514
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: where we were, you were going to have that. And

515
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: I just didn't in the end think that whatever we

516
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: would get in a little bit better view would be

517
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: worth you know, possibly spooking deer coming through there. Um.

518
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: And this brings me to another kind of rut foundational question,

519
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: like a thing I constantly debating with myself when I'm hunting,

520
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: and that is do you move to new spots when

521
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: you're not seeing what you want to see? Or do

522
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: you stick it out in a location and give it

523
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: time because it's the rut And if you're in a

524
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: feature or terrain feature or funnel, or if you're in

525
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: a bedding area, eventually, if you picked your spots right,

526
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: if you pick something that should have deer during the rut,

527
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you just have to give it time and eventually a

528
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: buck will come through. Um. And so in this case,

529
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: that's what I was debating. I felt like this was

530
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: a rock solid set up as far as a pinch

531
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: point with my wind blowing over the water and bedding

532
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: on either side of the river. Cort or there should

533
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: be bucks cruising up and down eventually, but we didn't

534
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: see him that morning. UM. So I had, you know,

535
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: little questions like do I need to bounce somewhere new,

536
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: but decide no, trust the feature, give us some more time. UM.

537
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: That said, we did want to try to learn more

538
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: about the area. And this goes back to what I

539
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: talked about the very beginning, this idea of scouting early

540
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: in a trip like this. You gotta learn, you gotta

541
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on so you can have well,

542
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, you need data to make good decisions. So

543
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I did climb out of the tree, and I think

544
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: New Nish noon or one o'clock or something like that. Um,

545
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: we went and kind of lightly scouted to other spots.

546
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: We UM did like a speed scout on the outside

547
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: of some of this kind of cover along the river,

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: and I hung two different cell cameras, um in two

549
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: different regions, so that you know, we could basically have

550
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: eyes into you know, well dispersed areas to get a

551
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: sense of where the most bucks were, where these bucks

552
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: were cruising, where they're doing what we thought they were

553
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna be doing. UM, basically just trying to figure out, like,

554
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: where's the hot spot along this river we need to

555
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: focus on. UM. So that's how we spent the midday

556
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: hours that day. UM. Hot weather again, super hot day.

557
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: It end up being like eighty degrees I think that day,

558
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: or close to it at least. UM. But I thought

559
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: that was a good use of those midday hours when

560
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: we didn't think that there was gonna be daylight activity

561
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day like you sometimes hope

562
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: poor in the rut. UM. But I thought, hey, this

563
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: is a good way to still, you know, in a

564
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: way be hunting, where we're doing something that's gonna help us. UM.

565
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: We ended up then heading back out to the tree

566
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: at like three thirty or four something like that, climb

567
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: back in, got settled and just kind of crossed all

568
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: our fingers and toes that there would be more buck

569
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: activity than there was in the morning. UM. Now from

570
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: here things take a turn. UM. We oh, I have

571
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: a pretty slow start to the evening hunt. But the

572
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: last hour arrives. I think we got to like six fifteen.

573
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I think it's right, And it was just about the

574
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: same time I saw the first year the night before,

575
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: and you would be made a bet when we thought

576
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: we could see the first year two minutes you were

577
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: really close, so you you won the bat And um,

578
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: that first dear is a dough shot up at six fifteen,

579
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: coming out of one of those betting areas that could

580
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: see off the distance, probably a hundred and fifty yards

581
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: away or something. And then here comes another dough a

582
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: little bit later, there's another dough in a few minutes later. Yep,

583
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: there's another one. And I think that continued for maybe

584
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, something like that. Fifteen twenty minutes and then bam,

585
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I see antlers and right on the good buck, good

586
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: buck at buck right along the edge of that river,

587
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: following one of these inside bends of the river. Coming

588
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: out of that bed and cover, here's a nice ten

589
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: point buck. Um, like a really slid like three or

590
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: four year old nice deer. And um, he's just slowly

591
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: working his way along the river. He's not chasing does

592
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: he's not even like hard cruising. He's just kind of

593
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: slowly working his way, kind of like nibbling grass as

594
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: he goes. And he does that for I don't know,

595
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: ten minutes as we're trying to get in position and

596
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: you're trying to find him. Yeah, it was not ideal.

597
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: From that, he's just always behind trees of something light.

598
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: He eventually comes out of that river bend and gets

599
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: into our pinch point and starts walking right towards us.

600
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: But there's actually a little barbed wire fence that the

601
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: rancher has out there along this edge, and he worked

602
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: that fence, which runs right beneath us eventually, so I've

603
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: got I've got my bow, and I'm getting all set

604
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: and you are turned around trying to find him, and

605
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: he ends up turning and walking like straight at us,

606
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: and there's branches along this line, and he ends up

607
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: walking to maybe forty yards, you know, something like that,

608
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: and then freezes and just kind of stands and he's

609
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: looking around, and I think at this point you finally

610
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of sawing right. Yeah, I can see him. I

611
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: can see him through the tree at that point. But

612
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, this is amazing that we've got

613
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: a shooter buck almost in range right now. But he's

614
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: on this line that you know, I'm not gonna get

615
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: a shot. I can't shoot him right now. He's kind

616
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: of nervous, he's he's he's just kind of checking things out.

617
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was nervous, but he was

618
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: just checking things out. And I'm thinking to myself, if

619
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: he continues as he is, he's gonna walk right to

620
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: the base of our tree and I will never have

621
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity in this whole way. Um. So I'm concerned

622
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: about the whole situation. But just prior to that, I

623
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: guess I forgot. Just prior to him getting there, I

624
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: spotted another buck coming behind him, and my first words

625
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: were giant a pointer. So another buck had come out

626
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: behind him out of that same betting area, and he

627
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of slowly follows behind the ten pointer. And this

628
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: buck looks like an eight point of me, really tall,

629
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: really heavy, bigger deer. Um. So now back to where

630
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I was, that eight point kind of disappears in the cover.

631
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: The ten pointer had turned the corner and walked right

632
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: to our edge, and he's now, you know, right in

633
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: front of us, but we can't shoot now. Next thing

634
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: that happens, I hear coming from behind me. And as

635
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I told you guys, there's this river, and I had

636
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: set up so that we would be blowing our wind

637
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: off into the river, but we weren't able to get

638
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: a tree that was right on the edge of the water.

639
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: We had like a twenty thirty yards strip of grass

640
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: that kind of fell down the hill from us to

641
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: the water, and that, you know, was the best we

642
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: could get. Well. Of course, as there's two shooter bucks

643
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: coming our way. Of course, the one little place in

644
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: any direction that you could possibly get our wind. This

645
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: dough goes and then a second dough, So we've got

646
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: two doughs slowly coming up behind us downwind. We've got

647
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: this nice ten point buck forty yards away, just kind

648
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: of standing looking around, trying to figure out why something

649
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: is a little bit off. He's behind branches, and then

650
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: the big eight steps out and he walks out of

651
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: the bedding cover into this little kind of meadowy opening,

652
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: walks across, he's maybe eighty yards away, starts rubbing on

653
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: a bush, and at this point I don't think you

654
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: saw him, yeah, because yeah, I he was tucked into

655
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: that bush still and kind of behind some limbs, and

656
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: you were so focused on that other buck. Um. I

657
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: just remember being like, justin, do you see the eight now?

658
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: And no, I'm like, he's right there, He's right in

659
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: the open, Like you stupid idiot, what are you looking

660
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: at something like that? And then after that it just

661
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: got worse. But we didn't catch anything, and you you

662
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: vent yourself because it was right out there and they

663
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: open and what was your first reaction when you saw

664
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: that here? How tall? I was just blown away by

665
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: how tall he was, and I knew like he was

666
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: like the next caliber. You know. I could see the

667
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: tin pointer enough to figure out like he he's a shooter.

668
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: But then this this other deer was just kind of

669
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: like so unique, just had such sweet character and um,

670
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: yeah I thought he was a big eight as well.

671
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was just like all you could see

672
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: was his his antlers were half, you know, as tall

673
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: as his body. So um. At that point, I was

674
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: like still just trying not to get busted by this

675
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: tin pointer because I knew if we screw up, um,

676
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: then he's gonna blow this eight out and a week

677
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: and just like hold it together that you know, the

678
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: tin was like standing there for you know, what seemed

679
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: like forever but that eight was making his way in

680
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: just kind of doing like pre ruddy kind of stuff,

681
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I wasn't at first. I was

682
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: thinking like this, this tin pointer has us pegged. But

683
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: then you know, after the fact, I think I realized

684
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: that he was probably like could see those doughs before

685
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: we could, So he must have been like either. I'm

686
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: not saying he wasn't onto us, but I it did

687
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: make sense after that he was just like trying to

688
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: figure out what was going on. Yeah, he he never

689
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: he never fully spooted. But what did happen is as

690
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: that big eight kind of turns and starts angling our

691
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: way a little bit, he starts making scrapes and stuff

692
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: like that, and those does, as I mentioned, were coming

693
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: up behind us, and eventually they headed right to the

694
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: base of our tree, and they did get down wind

695
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: of us, and they they never fully blew out, but

696
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: they knew something wasn't quite right, and one of them

697
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: eventually did like a little bound bound you know, like

698
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: the jump jump off of it way, and then kind

699
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: of flagged her tail and started walking away. At that point,

700
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: the ten pointer then crossed the fence and started heading

701
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: towards those doughs, and then another dough kind of bounded off,

702
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: so they got kind of spooky, and I don't think

703
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: they blew. I can't remember, but I don't think they blew,

704
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: but they kind of bounded off nervous, and that ten

705
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: points kind of jogged off their direction, and you know,

706
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: ran within twenty yards of me in the open for

707
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: a brief second. But I, you know, I don't see

708
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: any way I can spin and move without that other

709
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: bucks seeing us, because he's now looking over us, and

710
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: you know that that first buck freaking out too, So

711
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I just held still, let the ten pointer bounce off

712
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: away from us, with hopes that the big eight would

713
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: continue working our way. And I was like, I was,

714
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: that's the dilemma of the cameraman, is not knowing what

715
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the shooter is gonna do, and all the times. So

716
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: I kept whispering to you, like what are you gonna do?

717
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? And I thought you were

718
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: gonna pull this, you know, spin three sixty uh shot

719
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: on this tin, and I'm like tucked into uh my

720
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: little cubby hole, trying not to get seen. And there

721
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: was no way I was gonna be able to do it.

722
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to do like this team spin

723
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: if we were going to do that. So I was

724
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: glad you decided not to shoot. I was sitting there

725
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: debating back and forth, back and forth in the moments,

726
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: and I just I saw no way that we could

727
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: pull that off. And I did see a way, like

728
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: if the eight keeps coming, I do see a way

729
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: we can pull that off. So so that's what I

730
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: that's what I leaned towards. And uh so the buck

731
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: of the two doughs kind of bounce off behind us.

732
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: The big eight is just staring in our general direction

733
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: at these deer, wondering why did that buck kind of

734
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: bounce off? Why did those dos go the other direction?

735
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: And he just stood there for a very long time.

736
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know how long it was, but

737
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: it was a long time. He's still there, um and

738
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: then I'm just in my head just praying like please,

739
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: please don't freak out, Please don't freak out, Please don't

740
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: freak out. And this is one of those things where

741
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: the rut helped us out a little bit. Maybe, you know,

742
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: because at this time of year, I think deer are

743
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: used to seeing does running off in different directions. There

744
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: used to seeing bucks go run after doughs, and they're

745
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: used to kind of even some dear blowing and doing

746
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: funky things like that kind of stuff does happen now?

747
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: And what was so cool about that is like, I mean,

748
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: from the moment that buck popped out of that brush, uh,

749
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: he just like took his time and put on a show.

750
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he was hitting any branch that he could

751
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: lick between that spot and where he ended up. He

752
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: was starting a new screen and uh, you know, licking

753
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: and just like he was really I mean some of

754
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: the best footage I feel like I've ever captured of

755
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: uh dear doing dear things. You know. It was so cool.

756
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: And I remember at one point thinking to myself, like

757
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: just kind of I stepped out of the situation for

758
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: a brief second, I think when he was just frozen there,

759
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: or maybe when he was making a scrape, and I

760
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: just remember thinking to myself, this is so cool, no

761
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: matter what happens, this is so cool, um because it

762
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: really was spectacular. I mean, seeing an absolute specimen of

763
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: a buck doing that stuff, um man, that was awesome. Yeah,

764
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: And I think it kind of I don't know about you,

765
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: but it kind of put me at ease that like, Okay,

766
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: he you know, he's curious about what's going on with

767
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: these other dear, but he's not distracted enough that he's

768
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: not just gonna do what he was gonna do. Yeah,

769
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: as soon as he started making another scrape, like my

770
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: worries disappeared and I'm like, okay, We're in the game again,

771
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Like this is this is possible. And then my next

772
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: thing was like, where's he get go? Is he going to?

773
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Basically he was in kind of a low spot, and

774
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: this timber pinched down towards us, but I didn't know

775
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: if he was going to go straight across out towards

776
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: the grass or if he was going to turn left

777
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: and come down through our pinch, and he he had

778
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: begun coming our way, but there was still like an

779
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: option he could possibly pop up to the top and leave,

780
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: but he kept angling our direction. And there was a

781
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: trail that I remember ranging that came by and pinched

782
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: right in towards us at thirty yards, and he kept

783
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: angling that direction as he made these scrapes, and I'm

784
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: just thinking, please please take that trail, Please take that trail,

785
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: Please take that trail. And sure enough, I mean over

786
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: a long process. There was another point where he got

787
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: to like maybe forty two yards I think he got

788
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: but he's behind branches, and he did another stop and

789
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: just look and just like kind of staring, looking around,

790
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: looking around, looking around for a long time, another like

791
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, five minutes or something, and I'm just,

792
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: you know, praying that he's going to eventually keep walking

793
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: and get to that trail. And then he turns and

794
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: takes a step and then takes another step. Now he's,

795
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, thirty eight yards still behind branches. Takes another step,

796
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: thirty five years behind branches, thirty three yards still behind branches,

797
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: and then he turns. I remember thinking this, remember this

798
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: specifically because he turned in instead of heading right across,

799
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: which would have given me a broadside shop. He took

800
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: a step hard to the right, as if he was

801
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: almost going to turn and start going directly away from me,

802
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: and I had a moment of panic. I'm like, no, please, no,

803
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: like you're so close to stepping up behind these limbs

804
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: and give me a perfect thirty yard bread side shot.

805
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Please do not turn directly away and start walking away

806
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: from me. I remember having a moment of like, no,

807
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: don't do that, and he took that one step and

808
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: then turned again and came out broadside and stepped out

809
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: from the branches. And now at this moment I drawn back,

810
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: drawing back, he steps into that lane. And here's what's

811
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: going through my head at this moment, I just come

812
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: off of the panic of him walking directly away for

813
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: a half second. And now he had taken like a

814
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: step and stopped and then took a step, and they

815
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: stopped like for the last few seconds. That was the pattern.

816
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: Step stop for half a second, step stop for half

817
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: a second. And so he steps and pauses. I'm not drawn.

818
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: I get my pin on him and remember thinking, don't

819
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: let him like, I don't want him to step like

820
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm worried he's going to take a step just as

821
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm shooting the bow, and so on impulse, I go, Matt,

822
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: And I did it very quietly and subtly. I must

823
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: have had like enough thought in my brain. I remember thinking, like,

824
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to freak him out. So I just

825
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: as a very light man. It was. It was as

826
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: light as I could do it. I just wanted him

827
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: to pause. I just didn't want him to take that step. Well,

828
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: when I did that sound. He I mean he spun

829
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: and mediately and right at that moment I released the arrow.

830
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: M so the arrows in the air. And the next

831
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: thing I remember was just thinking, Hi. I think it

832
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: seemed like it's hard for me to remember exactly what

833
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: came first, But my first gut reaction was a hit

834
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: high or I missed. I just remember thinking like, oh shit,

835
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I screwed up. Something went wrong. Did he duck the arrow?

836
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Did I shoot over its back? Did it hit the

837
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: top of his back? Day Rick chet off? It's back.

838
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Something didn't look right, And I think I'd like to

839
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: go back and look at the footage. I still haven't

840
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: seen it, but I feel like the first thing I

841
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: said to you was what happened? Or did I miss

842
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: or something like that. I can't remember exactly is it

843
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: did I miss? Yeah? And I couldn't answer you because

844
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: it was the lighting was just bad enough. All I

845
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: could do is use like that you know that audio sound,

846
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: which is we listened for that pop and I didn't

847
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: hear the pop and so that was like my gut

848
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: And then the way he ran excuse me, the way

849
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: he ran off At the same time you were saying

850
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: I missed or something like that. I think I missed,

851
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: and so I had immediately thought, Okay, well you must

852
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: have missed because I didn't hear what I should have heard,

853
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: and then you immediately had doubt. And then we're watching

854
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: him just run like a racehorse. Um often in no

855
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: man's land. Yeah, I mean, he ran like a bat

856
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: out of hell. And I remember thinking, first, didn't miss

857
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: And then I remember seeing him running away, and the

858
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: one visual I remember seeing clearly was he hit this

859
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: patch of dirt and it seemed like his feet were

860
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: going a million miles an hour and there's a dust everyone.

861
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: I thought, he's like crashing into the ground. I thought,

862
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: for secondly to hit him. Did I actually get him?

863
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna die right there? But then he kept going

864
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: and just like just like a race car flying out

865
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: of there. Um. But then that's when I thought, well,

866
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: maybe I did hit him. And then the next moments

867
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: were just like a whole lot of like self loathing, like,

868
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what did you do wrong? What happened?

869
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: How could this happen again? Um? Because if you'll remember

870
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: last year, on one week in November, I missed a

871
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: giant eight pointer on the last day of the hunt

872
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: and then this whole off season, and this has been

873
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: well documented. I've talked about before this whole offseason, I've

874
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: worked really really, really really hard to try to rebuild

875
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: my shot process, trying to better handle and control my shots,

876
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and then to have this that this situation that seemed

877
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: like I either missed or hit this deer at the

878
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: top of his back or something. I was just really upset,

879
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: and so everything in my head was you know, assuming

880
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: worst case, and like you said, with it being as

881
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: dark as it was, um, I could not clearly see

882
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: where the hit was either. And I think it was

883
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, within a few minutes of legal shooting, like

884
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: five minutes of legal shooting lights or something like that,

885
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: when I end up getting the shot. So you know,

886
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't see where the arrow hit. I just remember

887
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: thinking high or did I hit bad? I don't know,

888
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: but just a lot of unsure and I think, you know,

889
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: I asked you what you saw, and you didn't know.

890
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, can we see the footage?

891
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think like we looked at it, but

892
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: that screen, yeah, we couldn't tell in the screen. So

893
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: then I just said, okay, well let's go check the arrow,

894
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: figure out what's what, what's what? And get down go

895
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: to the arrow, and the arrow was fully covered. Blood

896
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: like good. Blood look like good. And so now all

897
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now I don't know what to think.

898
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: I still feel like in my mind's eye could like

899
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: I did not see a perfect hit where it should

900
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: have been. Um, so I'm trying to like figure out

901
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: what what does this mean? Then I was very confused

902
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: and like, okay, so I hit it, So I must

903
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: have hit really high. Um, but I didn't spine him.

904
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: So where where is this hit? Daego? Just underneath the spine,

905
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Togo just over the spine. I just get a meat

906
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: hit on the top. I don't know, but the arrow

907
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. We start looking for blood, don't find

908
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: anything for a long time. No blood, no blood, no blood.

909
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: And I'm close to worthless when it comes to blood

910
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: trailing after dark. So I'm counting on you to to

911
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: find it. You know, I have to really go slow

912
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: and focus to see the right after dark like that. Um.

913
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: But thankfully we circled further and further and further, and

914
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: finally we got to the spot where there was this

915
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: dust this dusty patch that's talking about. I think that's

916
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I think what we said is eventually said, Okay, we

917
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: couldn't find blood, Let's go to the last place I

918
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: saw him. I know he hit this dust bowl. Let's

919
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: go check out the dust bowl. We get to the

920
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: dust bowl and like right away, like, here's blood up

921
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: and down this tree trunk right up, gonna have feet

922
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: off the ground. Yeah. So now I'm thinking, man, this

923
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: is this is a different animal than we originally thought,

924
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: because when we couldn't find blood for a long time.

925
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking, okay, meat hit. He's hardly wounded. He's

926
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna survive. I screwed up. Now we see the sprayed

927
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: blood up under the tree, and like pretty good blood.

928
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, I'm thinking, well, what

929
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: in the world could this be? How could this be?

930
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: How do you get up a spray shot with a

931
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: high hit like that? Right? I don't think I've ever

932
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: processed as much of a hit as we did that one,

933
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: because we kept going back there like the air looks good,

934
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: but it didn't pop, and there's not a lot of blood,

935
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: so it must be like some kind of muscle. And

936
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: then we get to the spray and it's like muscle

937
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: doesn't spray. So and then I was like, okay, well

938
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: maybe we hit an artery up there, and so we

939
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: see this spread. And then I remember thinking, okay, let's

940
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, let's pull in somebody, let's pull another opinion.

941
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: And we even wanted to connect with the other guys

942
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: on the show, so I thought this would be a

943
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: great opportunity. Let's face time with Tony, talk to him

944
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: what he thinks about the shots. We talked to Tony

945
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: and he's like pretty pessimistic about it. He's like, well,

946
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know those high shots. You could

947
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: be a backstrap. I've seen those like meat shots sometimes

948
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: bled good for a little bit and then it dries up. Um.

949
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: He basically brought me down, down, down, mostly. And then

950
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: he said, but but you know, you could go follow

951
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: blood for ways, but maybe you know, if it goes

952
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: anymore like a hundred yards, maybe back out. I'm thinking, okay, yeah,

953
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: but I still don't like make I can't make sense

954
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: of like the blood being like three and a half

955
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: feet up the up the tree and all the way

956
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: down and all over the place, Like, um, how is

957
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: that not? I mean, it's got to be lungs or

958
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: an artery. Um. But we keep going and there's no

959
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: blood for a while, and then we come over this

960
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: little hill and then there's a bunch of sprayed blood

961
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: across this log. Again looks really good. I'm thinking, well,

962
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: let's keep going. But I constantly have this voice in

963
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: the back of my head, which is, you're gonna push

964
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: it too far. You want to like I so desperately

965
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: we all have this right, you so desperately want to

966
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: find it. I couldn't imagine backing out and waiting until

967
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: the next day. And I I just wanted the crappy

968
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: feeling to go away, the crappy feeling being I mess

969
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: this up somehow. Um. So we keep going, and there's blood.

970
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: There's a little blood. There's a little blood. There's not

971
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: a lot like after that jump over the log where

972
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: we found some spray, and now it's like drip, drip, drip,

973
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: little stuff, little stuff. And we follow something like that

974
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: for like fifty six seventy yards stuff like that, and

975
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: then we go down a little hill and then at

976
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: the bottom of this hill, all of a sudden, another

977
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: spray and then like a splash and a splash, splash,

978
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: and then We're like, oh man, he's dead. And then

979
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: there's no blood. No blood for five yards, no blood

980
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: for ten yards, none for fifteen twenty, and now all

981
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like, oh man, the blood's gone. Now,

982
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I I go back to the

983
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: paint cans and like that blood looks really fresh, doesn't it?

984
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: And like, did we just bump him? Was he just

985
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: standing here somewhere? Did he bed down somewhere? And now

986
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: because we pushed too far, we bumped him? And so

987
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I'm getting all worried again

988
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: and pessimistic, and Tony's voices in my head saying I'm

989
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: not feeling good about man. I don't feel I don't.

990
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: He kept on saying things like I don't have the

991
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: good feelings for you right now. Like you know, most

992
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: of your friends are always like, oh man, it's gonna

993
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: be alright, You're gonna find him. No, the whole time,

994
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Tony was like, Nope, don't feel good about this. Yeah,

995
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: not sounding good. What I knew though, was like Tony

996
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: only had what we were describing to him, and you

997
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: and I were like seeing this blood, and now he's

998
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: like I hear what Tony is saying, but this blood

999
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: is telling me something different. So I was with you.

1000
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: I felt like, you kind of want to keep going.

1001
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: You kind of want to keep going, until like that

1002
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: last time where we just about totally lost blood, I

1003
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: was like, this just not makes sense. I mean that

1004
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: like we had just seen a log that had been

1005
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: sprayed three or four feet wide and then no no drops.

1006
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: So I still couldn't wrap my head around that. But yeah,

1007
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: when we got to the paint can, we thought, dang,

1008
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: this buck has bedded down, and then we just bumped

1009
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: it and it popped up. And so we've had both

1010
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: like good feelings and bad feelings. I think we're back.

1011
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: We're debating, Okay, you know, if this deer is bleeding,

1012
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: but it's not like a mortal wound, like if he's

1013
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: ran this fart, it's not an arterial shot. And if

1014
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: it was a double long shot, he should have been

1015
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: dead by now. And now we're worried. We just bumped him.

1016
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: And then I was debating, well do you back out

1017
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: or do you keep following him and you try to

1018
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: make sure he bleeds out. So I debated a thousand

1019
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: different things, but in the end we we walked a

1020
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: little bit further, like twenty yards from the paint cans

1021
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: still couldn't find in blood. And then we heard like

1022
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: a deer moving in front of us, like off in

1023
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: the woods, like kind of just like a step here,

1024
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: step there. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, what

1025
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: if this deer if we did bump the deer um

1026
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: and I lost all confidences. I was like, all right,

1027
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: we we're gonna back out. I don't know if that's

1028
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: our dear ahead or not, but we've gone way further

1029
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: than I thought I was originally gonna go. We've gone

1030
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: more than two yards now, according to the app, and

1031
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: I just thought, I'm gonna push too far, like I

1032
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: so badly wanted. I know what I'm going to be

1033
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: tempted to do, don't do it. So I said, we're

1034
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: pulling the plug. I put my hat down and last

1035
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Blood marked it and went home, and I just felt horrible,

1036
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: Like it was a very quiet car drive back to

1037
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: the bunk house that night. Well, I was trying to

1038
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: process the shot and the feelings of failure and knowing

1039
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: too that I mean, this place is littered with coyotes,

1040
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: just littered, so we're like, well, if we leave it,

1041
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: we don't find it, chances are it is gonna just

1042
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: be gone by morning, because I'll find it. And then

1043
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: we were like probably fifty yards from the river, so

1044
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: we're like, if we bump it and try a cross

1045
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: this river, then we're gonna have a heck with time

1046
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: on the other the other side trying to find blood.

1047
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: So there was just yeah, it was a rough, rough moment. Yeah.

1048
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: So I was also thinking, if they're like, what did

1049
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: I do wrong in the shop, And so one thing

1050
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: we did is we went and looked at the footage,

1051
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: and while we could not for the life of us

1052
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: see where the arrow hit, we could see that deer

1053
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: ducked seriously on the shot, like significantly jumped the string.

1054
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: So I felt partly better because the high hit was

1055
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: not because I pulled it in some kind of horror way.

1056
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: That the high hit was because the deer reacted to

1057
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: the shot in a significant way. But I made two

1058
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: mistakes still. Number one A big mistake was that I

1059
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: had put him on alert by going Matt. I didn't.

1060
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I probably didn't have to do that. I did it

1061
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: out of an abundance of caution because I didn't want

1062
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: a moving shot. But maybe if I had been able

1063
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: to wait another second more, he would have stayed fully

1064
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: still and I could have gotten that shot just the same.

1065
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: But my impulse paranoia of him moving caused me to

1066
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: make a sound to keep him still, even though I

1067
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: could have instead fired right then and probably would have

1068
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: been fine. That was a mistake, big mistake, And I

1069
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: think if I had not made that sound, I think

1070
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: he would have not react to the shot at all,

1071
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: and I probably would have got him perfect. But I didn't.

1072
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I made that rookie move in that kind of heat

1073
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: of the moment situation. Secondly, I've talked about this like

1074
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: shot process that I've been working on. I did not

1075
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: use my shot process all the way I rushed it.

1076
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you that I did it

1077
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: all perfect, but I didn't. I did not make it

1078
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: through all the steps. Again, I made it through like

1079
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: two steps in my first bucket killed this year. Same

1080
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: thing with the dough I killed a week and a

1081
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: half ago, and still same with this one. Like I'm

1082
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still not a hundred percent there. I

1083
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 1: wish I could tell you I was um. I wish

1084
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: I could tell you that I perfectly said, every step

1085
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: of my mantra just the way it was and was

1086
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: fully slowed down. Mhm. I'm still fighting it, and in

1087
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: this case I was. I was able to be burning

1088
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: that pin and him, but I did not get to

1089
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: that next step and the arrow was on its way.

1090
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Now I feel pretty strongly that why. I'm sure that

1091
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: if that buck had not jumped the string, it would

1092
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: have been a great double long hit. Is a little

1093
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: bit farther back than perfect, but I air a little

1094
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: bit back from the shoulder anyways. Um, so if he

1095
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: had not jumped the string, I'd be sitting here very

1096
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: happy with a shot, while also knowing I didn't follow

1097
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: my process perfectly and still need to work on that.

1098
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: That said, my two mistakes compounded, made the noise when

1099
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have, and then still rushed that shot a

1100
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: little bit, leading to being a little bit a little

1101
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: bit back up perfect and very high because of the

1102
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: jumped string. So that's where that's where things did that night,

1103
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: And so I'm beating myself up about all that, beating

1104
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: myself up, beating myself up. You've you're not going to

1105
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: find this deer. It's probably a meat hit or something.

1106
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: You wounded a deer. Now, not what you're gonna do

1107
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week. Are you gonna punch

1108
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: your tag and be done in Nebraska and go to Ohio?

1109
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Do you keep hunting? Do you quit your job and

1110
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: become a salesman? Used car lot um? I mean I

1111
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: was low that night, very low. The next morning I

1112
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: went to bed, like as soon as we got home,

1113
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: I went right to bed. You stayed up and we're

1114
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: doing stuff in your computer. But I just like lay

1115
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: it in bed and just like wallowed and self pity

1116
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: until I fell asleep. The next morning, I wake up

1117
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: and I asked you, hey, did you get to look

1118
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: at that photogen a computer? Could you see any better?

1119
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Could you see the hit? And you said no, not really.

1120
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: I looked at and stuff, and I said, well, do

1121
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: you have any photo of him running away at all?

1122
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: And he said, well, yeah, I do. So then I

1123
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: watched that, and I watched him go running over the

1124
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: dirt pile where I had seen him last. And then

1125
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: I see him keep going and keep going and keep

1126
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: going way way around, running full bore all the way out,

1127
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: and I realized he was running like a bat out

1128
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: of hell all the way until he went down that

1129
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: last little hill, which is basically right where we stopped.

1130
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: So he never stopped and stood around for us to

1131
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: bump him. He never bedded down for us to bump him.

1132
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: He was running full out. We could actually see on

1133
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: the footage all the way to almost where we stopped.

1134
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: And so that's when I started thinking, Man, there's no

1135
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: way this the situation I was worried about happened now.

1136
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Like he was run and run and run, and he

1137
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: very well could be dead right out there somewhere still

1138
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: having died less than thirty seconds from the shot. Um.

1139
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the artery shot, maybe it was something better.

1140
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't catch the top of a long um.

1141
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: So I had renewed hope a little bit after that.

1142
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: And and maybe I'm getting too long winded with this

1143
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: whole process, but this whole thing was was a huge, huge,

1144
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: um highlight of the trip, both starting airs low and

1145
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: then later something more because we get out there at

1146
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: first light that next day. After I reviewed that photo,

1147
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little bit better. We jammed to Fred

1148
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: Bearer by Ted Nugent on the drive out there, and um,

1149
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: we hike out to this rise. We're coming down to

1150
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: that river bottom and I can just finally see this um,

1151
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: this little s bend where the betting was and when

1152
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: we left the blood at and I'm about like fifty

1153
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: six yards away, and I'm just come over the hill

1154
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: and I see down there, and right away I see

1155
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: white belly, and I pull up my bios and I

1156
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: look and I'm like, oh my gosh, and I just

1157
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: spun around you as a turn on the camera, and

1158
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: that buck was dead fifteen yards from where we had

1159
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: stopped the night before. He was right there, right there

1160
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: the whole time, dead as a door knumb right in

1161
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: front of us, and even closer to where I stopped

1162
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: because I I had you stand on blood and then

1163
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: I moved out ten yards further, and I mean I

1164
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: could have I could have probably you touched him if

1165
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: I jumped, But yeah, I mean we were just didn't

1166
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: know what to feel that night, you know. So our

1167
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: guy was telling us that we had we're doing the

1168
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: right thing, and we actually were, you know, but you

1169
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: know such a relief too, ma'am. And you went over

1170
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: that hill and you picked up the buyers and you

1171
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: turned around and kind of shook your head. I was like,

1172
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff just fell off and I was like,

1173
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: we got him. We got him. The best feeling in

1174
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: the world. It was amazing, and the coyotes did not

1175
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: get to him, zero coyote damage, which was wonderful, and

1176
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I was the happiest camper in the world.

1177
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: It was just an unbelievable buck. I mean a gorgeous

1178
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: he's a seven point. He is a tiny g three

1179
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: on one side, almost just like a big six um

1180
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: and heavy, like just big old baseball bat beams and

1181
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: basses and just a really cool slob of a buck,

1182
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: huge body, big, super sure um, just really cool. Dear.

1183
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: Um looked at the hit. The hit was high, like

1184
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: I thought, but it ended up getting both lungs. He

1185
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: got the top of one long and then through the

1186
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: second lung. Um, so it was a double long shot

1187
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: is what killed it. I think he was dead within

1188
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, seconds of running across over there, and we

1189
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest thing was just not being able

1190
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: to see that hit well and just not knowing that

1191
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: threw so much uncertainty into it. Um. But I'm I'm

1192
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think most cases, if you're unsure, if

1193
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable, giving it more time is usually a safer

1194
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: about and so I'm glad I did that. My big

1195
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: takeaways as far as rooms for room for improving here

1196
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: is again, you know, knowing when to stop a deer

1197
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: verbal and when not to. And that's a thing like

1198
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: I intellectually know, I know not to make that noise

1199
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: unless the deer absolutely needs to be stopped, But in

1200
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: that moment it's I'm also arey paranoid about taking a

1201
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: moving shot, and so in the moment, like it was

1202
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: an impulse thing, and my my body knew too. My

1203
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: body I knew, like my my reptile brain knew enough

1204
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: to be like very subtle with it. I was, like

1205
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: I was, it was a very subtle, little one. So

1206
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I was I was aware of that this was like

1207
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: treading on thin ice um, But I still had to

1208
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: do it because I was so worried he was gonna

1209
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: take another step. Yeah, but I mean he had told

1210
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: us though that he may take another step. So it

1211
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: was tough because I when you did it, I was like, man,

1212
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: the deer was stopped. Why did you do that? But

1213
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: I noticed that you did it very quietly, and you know,

1214
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: I think if that deer wouldn't have been on edge

1215
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: because of those other deer, you know, probably would have

1216
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: been an issue, but man, you don't know that that

1217
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: deer might have taken another step and then you'd have

1218
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: been even further back. So it's it's hard to say

1219
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: a you know, I definitely it's something to process, But

1220
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that I know that you did

1221
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: the wrong thing because we had just watched that you're

1222
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: kindn't do that same thing for fifteen yards and every

1223
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: time he moved, so it is I don't. Yeah, this

1224
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: stuff is always so so subjective, and you know, right

1225
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: or wrong can be the tiniest little thing. So that

1226
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: was the thing, and then you know, continued, you know,

1227
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: work on my process. I still gotta keep working. I

1228
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: just need to go home and keep shooting doughs and

1229
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: just keep working through because I can do this a

1230
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: million times in the backyard perfectly, but it's still just

1231
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: always different in the moment, especially when there's a buck

1232
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: in front of you moving acrossed. Um. So I feel

1233
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: like I'm making progress. I feel like my first buck

1234
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: was great, my second dough was okay, and this one

1235
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: was okay. So you know, I'm a work in progress

1236
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: on this new shop process. I'm gonna keep going with it,

1237
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: but big things that happened you're outside of that. With

1238
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: this kill, I think the real key to success was location.

1239
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: Um finding a spot that was just like a best

1240
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: of both world's kind of runt location was what killed

1241
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: this deer, and then trusting the features despite not seeing

1242
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: the movement that morning. So again, if you are hunting

1243
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: in the rut, the pillars of run hunting success are

1244
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: dough betting areas or hotspots or funnels if you can

1245
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: somehow combine those two hunting a funnel next to a

1246
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: betting area, or a funnel that is adjacent or funnels

1247
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: into or out of a betting are those are perfect

1248
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 1: situations where you can concentrate dear movement where bucks want

1249
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: to be going this time of year, which is checking

1250
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: doe betting airs or leaving doe betting airs to go

1251
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: to a dough food store or something like that. And

1252
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: so in this situation, this is a tiny pinch point

1253
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: in between tube do betting areas, and these bucks were

1254
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: just gonna cruise right between them along that river. And

1255
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: then I had the wind in a bulletproof location going

1256
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: out over that water. And even though in that morning situation.

1257
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: I was tempted to move, tempted to look for something else.

1258
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: I said, no, I believe in this terrain. I believe

1259
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 1: in this idea here, like you have to. Like deer

1260
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: hunting is all about, you know, making predictions or making

1261
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: assumptions about some future outcome, and sometimes you need to

1262
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: look in the situation like this. And you said, all right,

1263
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: I believe in this set up enough that I believe,

1264
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, it will happen. I trust in the location,

1265
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: I trust in these features. I have confidence that there

1266
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: are deer here that we'll use that. And then you

1267
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: need to give a time to actually come to fruition.

1268
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: And so in this case I made the right call,

1269
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: trusted the location, and sure enough that evening the deer

1270
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: did the thing we need them to do. So that's

1271
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: what killed that buck on November one. Um, he wasn't

1272
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: chasing a doll. He wasn't, you know, really do anything

1273
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: crazy ruddy. He was simply leaving a bedding area, kind

1274
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: of cruising over to the next one, laying down sign

1275
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: and we were in a sweet little pinch point with

1276
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: good wind. And that's what did it. The next day, well, no,

1277
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: that day we finished up all the projects we had

1278
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: to do with that deer. We skinned him out, cord him,

1279
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: deboned him, put him in the cooler, um, cleaned up

1280
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: our place, packed up, headed out and started driving to

1281
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: my next destination, which was Ohio. And now we're riding high.

1282
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we killed a buck on the very we're

1283
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: shout a buck on the very first day. On the

1284
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: second day of the trip, we recovered him. We're feeling great.

1285
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: We were covered all the meat. We've got a beautiful

1286
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: buck in the truck. Um. And now we're heading to

1287
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: the next day, which is Ohio where there's supposed to

1288
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: be a big giant bucks everywhere. You really talked that

1289
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: spot up. So I was like, man, like, how much

1290
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: higher can we get here? This is gonna be incredible,

1291
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna have I'm gonna have time to really

1292
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: hunt it. Uh. So we drive that night for a

1293
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: few hours, get a hotel room the next day, to

1294
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: drive the entire day to get there. Finally we got

1295
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: to a hotel room late on day three and we're

1296
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna start hunting day four. So, as I mentioned, um,

1297
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: this Ohio stuff I have, there's a small third acre

1298
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: piece and there's like a seven y acre piece. Both

1299
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: of these are in the general region of where I

1300
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: used to hunt in southern Ohio ME and further had

1301
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: a place back in the day, so I knew the neighborhood,

1302
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: and I knew the neighborhood was really good, Like we'd

1303
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: killed some really nice bucks when I had driven around

1304
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: the summers and when we scouted and shut hunting and

1305
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: stuff like, we knew there was really good deer in

1306
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: the area. So I felt confident that anywhere in this

1307
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: neighborhood it should be pretty darn decent um. So that

1308
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: gave me confidence coming to this week. Despite the fact

1309
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: that all I had done is one day of speed

1310
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: scouting in mid October, the trail cameras were not terribly encouraging.

1311
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: On the seventy acre piece, I had not gotten a

1312
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: single shooter buck, not a single mature buck. From mid

1313
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: October on, I had only one cell camera, though it's working.

1314
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: On the thirty five acre piece, I had um to

1315
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: cell cameras, and I had gotten two possible shooters. One

1316
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: was like a not a very large antler deer like

1317
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: a hundred pointer, but big body, mature deer, and then

1318
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: one was a giant eight pointer but he's only shown

1319
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: up two nights. Um. And then there was a third

1320
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: buck that was probably four, but he busted off his

1321
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: entire left side already, so he was dear. I was like, gosh,

1322
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot him. Um, he would have

1323
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: been a nice deer. So I was kind of surprised

1324
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: that the cameras weren't showing me that much. I thought

1325
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: it would have been, you know, a lot more, especially

1326
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: on the property, the bigger one. Um. But I thought, well,

1327
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, cameras can only tell you so much. Once

1328
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: you get there, you're gonna start seeing deer and you

1329
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: make adjustments and you'll figure out what's been, you know,

1330
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: avoiding the cameras. So the first morning, again, I have

1331
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: nothing set up. I have no experience in these properties.

1332
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: What I didn't know and when I had tried to

1333
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: find when I did the scouting was like where's the

1334
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: dough betting? Where the bedding areas at? And I found

1335
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: what looked like some bedding on a property neighboring our piece,

1336
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: on the seventy acre piece. Basically, what I did find

1337
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: on my scouting trip was that the property is cut

1338
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: in half by a fenced in area. Half the property

1339
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: is fenced in with like a five foot tall barbed

1340
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: wire fence, and inside that fence is cattle. So I've

1341
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: pretty bummed about that when I saw there was a

1342
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: bunch of cattle in there, because you know, I've hundred

1343
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: places that have cattle, and bucks will sometimes still use it.

1344
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: Deer will still sometimes use it, but they definitely don't

1345
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: like to be around the cattle. And so I just

1346
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: didn't know how frequently they were in there, and especially

1347
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: with it being entirely fenced in and like tight new

1348
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: tall fence where they go out of their way to

1349
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: jump over a five foot tall fence to go into

1350
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: a cattle pasture with nothing else in there, I didn't know.

1351
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: So I put two cameras and these fingers of timber

1352
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: there and put mox scrapes under them. And this is

1353
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: all back in October, and I thought, well, this will

1354
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: tell me whether or not, you know, when I come

1355
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: back here. This will tell me if these deer are

1356
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: in here, because there should be deer working these fingers,

1357
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: There should be deer working along these um If there

1358
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: are not pictures of bucks on here, that means they

1359
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: are not using this area because the kettle. So that's

1360
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: half the property. The other half the property is like

1361
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: a twenty ten acre maybe bean field cut being field,

1362
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: and then all that's left is like a five acre

1363
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: little wood lot which is mostly kind of open hardwoods.

1364
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: So after the scouting trip in October, I'm thinking, well,

1365
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: this is not too promising, especially if they're not using

1366
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: the cattle pastuts. But there was some thick cover on

1367
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: the neighbors. So morning number one, this is November four,

1368
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: I decide, all right, let's hunt with this wind. We

1369
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: can hunt downwind of that thick stuff on the neighbors,

1370
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: so we can be on our side with the wind

1371
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: blowing from the thick stuff in the neighbors down to ours. Hypothetically,

1372
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: bucks should be traveling that down one side and would

1373
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: probably be on our edge and we might be able

1374
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: to get a shot. This is an area that's close

1375
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: to some properties that aren't allowed to be hunted, kind

1376
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: of sanctuary kind of stuff. So I felt like, gosh,

1377
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: there's gotta be something good cruising out of there. Um

1378
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: during the rut, they'll be bucks moving through. That morning,

1379
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: we sneak in before daylight, well ahead of time, find

1380
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: a tree. I had marked a tree on my scouting

1381
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: trip in October that I thought would be good for

1382
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: this wind in that location, and I got set up

1383
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: in there. There's poison ivy in the tree. Um. Yeah,

1384
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: and uh, we see just one dough nothing else. It

1385
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: wasn't too keen on that, no, and it looked pretty

1386
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: promising too. Once the sun came up, I was like, yeah,

1387
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: well there could be something that's going on here, and yeah,

1388
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: we just had that one come through. And then as

1389
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: some dogs run through that betting area, we saw dogs

1390
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: run through. So at midday I decided, all right, I'm

1391
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: gonna get out of here, and I want to go

1392
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: check the trail cameras and that'll give you a much

1393
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: better sense of what's going on with here. I had

1394
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: the two cameras and the fingers and the cattle pasture,

1395
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: and then I had one cell camera on the edge

1396
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: of the field on a big scrape that had not

1397
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: been sending to me. So we pull all those cards,

1398
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: check all the cards, and there's nothing, just that million

1399
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: and a half pictures at cows. Yeah, Like we got

1400
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: I think one dough in the cattle pasture over the

1401
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: course of three weeks, and then on the scrape that

1402
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: wasn't in the cattle pasture. There was one three year

1403
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: old buck and a few doughs here and there, and

1404
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: lots of raccoons and dogs too, and that was it

1405
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: for like three and a half weeks or something. And

1406
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: we're kind of banking on that too. So that was

1407
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: like a bit of a yeah, let the air out

1408
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: of the balloon. Huge, huge, So with that I kind

1409
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: of felt like writing that essentially wrote off the entire property,

1410
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: that seventy acre piece, which you know, if I if

1411
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: I write off the whole, you know, forty cell makers

1412
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: that's the cattle pasture. And then you see that there's

1413
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: nothing visiting those two cameras on the outside at all.

1414
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: And we sat there saw nothing. I said, all right,

1415
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: let's sit one more time this evening and see this

1416
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: field somehow and see, you know, see what's coming out

1417
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: to feet if maybe there's does here. There was some

1418
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: winter wheat growing up in the field now, so I

1419
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: had a little bit of hope, Well maybe this is

1420
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: like a draw, maybe there'll be some does out here,

1421
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: and if those does, we got a chance. We ended

1422
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: up because of the wind being a direction, it's tough

1423
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: to hunt over there. I decided let's throw the decoy

1424
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: out in the field and hunt on the ground, tucked

1425
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: in a fence row. So we end up doing that.

1426
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: We tucked into a back corner of this fence row,

1427
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: put out the decoy about twenty yards out in front

1428
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: of us. We've got a good view of the field

1429
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: and then we can see back into a neighbor's field

1430
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: a little bit too. I can see into the cattle

1431
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: pasture as well. Um. And we sat there for the

1432
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: evening and hoping, all right, we'll see some does, maybe

1433
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: some young bucks. Maybe we'll see a big boy roll

1434
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: through off from the distance or something. And what do

1435
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: we see? Saw a decoy? How many times did you

1436
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: like see a buck out of the corner of your eye,

1437
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: like jolt, And then all of a sudden realized, well,

1438
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: that's just my decoy. That happened to bunch. We did

1439
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: see a single deer that night. Um, that was this

1440
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: is the start of the downhill. Yeah, I know. Again

1441
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: it was hot though, right, so I put some of

1442
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: this on this hot weather is not helping us. But

1443
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: you'd still think something would come out, you know, last

1444
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: light or something, but nothing. So now I feel really

1445
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: negative about this piece. And I just said, all right,

1446
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: that thirty five acre pieces probably where we need to focus,

1447
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: because I had gotten those good bucks on camera there,

1448
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: and I had found some really really good betting cover

1449
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: inside there, so I knew from that scouting trip there's

1450
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: like an epic betting area in there. There's this big

1451
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: point that extends out into the middle of the timber

1452
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: and there was like an old cut or something on

1453
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: top of it that is now overgrown and brambles and

1454
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: cedar trees and grass and just awesome thick stuff about

1455
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: two acres of really really good looking bedding, and the

1456
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: rest of the timor is pretty good and thick, and

1457
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: there's these nice ridges, and had found these benches on

1458
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: the side of the ridge where there was just scrapes

1459
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: littered up and down this bench um And as I mentioned,

1460
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: I had gotten several nice bucks on camera over there,

1461
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: so I felt at least there, I know there's some shooters.

1462
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: It's got great habitat, it's got great dough bedding. If

1463
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: we get in there into the interior, which would be

1464
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: a plunge, but if we get in there and set

1465
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: it out, there's gonna be bucks cruising. So that's gonna

1466
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: be the plan for the next day. So the next morning,

1467
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: with the wind direction we had, I had to hunt

1468
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: the outside edge of that betting area. What was cool

1469
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: about that though, and I knew this from when I

1470
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: walked it. On the outside of that bedding are there's

1471
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: like a steep drop off on the property line and

1472
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: it drops down to a creek and then a corn

1473
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: field on the neighbors. And so I found a spot

1474
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: where you could sit and you'd be on the downwind

1475
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: edge of this thicket and you would blow your wind

1476
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: off that cliff for that like you know, steve embankment

1477
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: and blow your window over this creek and field up

1478
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: behind you. Um, you know, nothing would be able to

1479
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: wind you. Um you know, anything that did come down

1480
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: one of you would be within twenty yards and then

1481
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: otherwise to be off that steep drop off. So I

1482
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: was excited about that. This looked like a dynamite cruising spot. Um.

1483
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: So the plan was to sneak in there early, find

1484
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: a tree, gets set up, and then sit there all

1485
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: day because there's no way to get out from there

1486
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: without having to walk back through all that bedding. And

1487
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: so that's what we did. We had a dough betting area.

1488
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: We were downwind of it. We were in thick cover.

1489
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: There was tons of big rubs and scrapes and sign

1490
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: in the area fromhen I scouted, and then again when

1491
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: we came in there now during the rut, we could

1492
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: see it again too. There's a big old cedar tree

1493
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: like six seven inches around there was all shredded up.

1494
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: Um it looked great. And we sat all day and

1495
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: we saw zero deer on the property. The only thing

1496
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: we saw was a guy walking on the edge of

1497
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: the betting area with his Jeremy shepherd. Yes, so we

1498
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: did see that, and then it lasts light. In that

1499
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: cornfield way down on the neighbors a dode did pop out,

1500
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: but that was it for the day. Um. So that

1501
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: was day two in Ohio. Day three in Ohio. I decided, well,

1502
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: let's let's hunt. Let's give that spot a little more time.

1503
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: I just believe like it seems such a great area,

1504
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: had a great wind situation. We're down one of this

1505
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: amazing betting tons of signing there. Um, we just gotta

1506
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: give a time. I know that from previous history this

1507
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: is a relatively low deer density kind of area. Um,

1508
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: we had days like this one we hunted down Ohio

1509
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: where you only see like three or four deer or something,

1510
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: and you just have to push the slow days because

1511
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: eventually a big one would come through. So I decided

1512
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: to go back there that morning. We sit it all morning,

1513
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: the guy comes walking by again with his dog, and

1514
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: we again see no dear. So now is one of

1515
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: those rut conundrums that I'm always faced with where you're

1516
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: torn between and I talked about this earlier. You're torn

1517
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: between the idea of staying or going. Do you stick

1518
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: with something, do you trust a plan, do you trust

1519
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: a feature, do you trust history? Or do you bounce

1520
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: around trying to find fresh sign or trying to find

1521
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: something that makes you feel good or trying to see

1522
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: dear or whatever it is um And in this case,

1523
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: I knew that we had a windshift coming up the

1524
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: next day, going from the south wind to a north wind,

1525
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: and I knew that with that north wind, I could

1526
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: hunt the interior of the Betting Air, which was the

1527
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: number one spot I've found, And I thought, well, that's

1528
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: where I want to be. And now I've sat a

1529
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: day and a half in this location and we still

1530
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: haven't seen what I want to see. Maybe we do

1531
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: need to move. Maybe there's more stuff going on, and

1532
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention the night prior, we got a

1533
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: trail camera picture of a giant buck stepping into that

1534
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: edge of the interior bedding, uh like fifteen minutes before dark,

1535
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: so he'd been in there, and then we exited, you know,

1536
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: kind of past wherever he went. Um, so I knew

1537
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: there had been a big buck in that general era

1538
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: of the night prior, so now I want to get

1539
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 1: in there. So at midday we pulled on our set

1540
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: and we kind of waited till the wind rose up

1541
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: to give us a little bit of sound cover, and

1542
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: then we just really really really slowly worked our way

1543
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: down wind of the bedding area as far out as

1544
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: I could get circled around it. Did a really big

1545
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: like half moon shaped to work around the bedding are

1546
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: to get to the other side where now with the

1547
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: west southwest wind we are now getting, we could blow

1548
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: along the edge of the bedding, which is a little risky,

1549
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: but at this point I'm trying to make moves. And

1550
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: the next day when that wind blows north, you know,

1551
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: blows straight back behind us down into this creek bottom.

1552
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: So the new set up, the new tree we're in

1553
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: we're on the opposite side of that two acre bedding thicket.

1554
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: We're on the lee side of this ridge, so the

1555
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: wind will be blowing from the ridge past us and

1556
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: then down to a creek at the bottom of the hill.

1557
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: And there's a bench that runs along the side of

1558
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: this ridge that is littered with scrapes, and I had

1559
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: a camera on that bench and they had gotten me

1560
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: pictures of some of those bucks that mentioned. So that

1561
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: is what we set up on for our day three

1562
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: in Ohio. Middle of the day set up. And so

1563
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: again the tactic I'm using here is being on the

1564
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: edge of bedding cover and being on the downward side

1565
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: of it. And then also now we're in an interior

1566
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: location where we can see across this creek bottom and

1567
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: we can see the other side and a couple of

1568
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: different spots and maybe possibly call to something if it's

1569
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: out of range thick cover. We're on a bedding area

1570
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: and there's tons of fresh hot sign in here and

1571
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: I can see the call. That was basically what we're

1572
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: doing here for this rout hunt. And I believed, you know,

1573
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: be in that best betting and something will come through.

1574
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: That was what I was leaning on when hunted that night,

1575
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: I saw nothing. Nothing At last, like we did, hear

1576
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: buck grunt on the other side of the valley. Um

1577
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: and that was it. All that takes us to day seven,

1578
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: that's today, And now again I'm trusting this feature. I

1579
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: believed in this location. I believed in the habitat, the

1580
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: way that thick cover in that terrain would funnel deer

1581
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: through there. And so we're going right back to that

1582
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: same tree, and we're setting out for the day and

1583
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: we get into early this morning. I'm feeling good about it.

1584
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: And before daylight we hear there's a buck running or

1585
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: deer running towards us. And then it stops and then

1586
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: takes a few steps and stops and takes a few

1587
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: more steps, and I realized that creates right down wind

1588
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: of us. It was dark. I can't see anything, I

1589
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: can't think of anything in the binoculars. Stands there for

1590
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, five minutes, ten mins, I don't It

1591
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: felt like a long time. It did feel like a

1592
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: long time, and I just thinking, Man, he just hangs

1593
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: out there and the sun comes up, He's going to

1594
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: be in trouble. But he decided to move off. He

1595
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: eventually turned went back the way it came. Didn't like

1596
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: freak out at all, didn't blow, but just turned and

1597
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: just walked back the way it came. And daylight came

1598
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: and I thought, for sure, all right, it's a colder morning.

1599
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: It was like ten degrees colder than it was the

1600
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: morning before, thick betting, this seemed like a great morning location.

1601
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 1: And uh, man, there's a cedar tree like tenants diameter

1602
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: cedar tree now about twenty yards from the tree just

1603
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: tore to shreds you later pointed out like a pile,

1604
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: like a huge pile of uh barked what would you

1605
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: call shavings that came off the tree, and they were

1606
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: piled at the bottom and very very impressive. Um. And

1607
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: we sat all morning and how many did it was

1608
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: to zero? Zero deer? Sat all the way through the

1609
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: middle of the day. How many dear did we see

1610
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the day? Zero one coyote, turkeys, a

1611
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: million and a half squirrels, zero deer. Then we sat

1612
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: the rest of the evening. How many deer do we

1613
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 1: see that evening? Zero? We sat four days in Ohio,

1614
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: so one dough within the first hour on that first property,

1615
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: and then three days on the other property on which

1616
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: we saw zero deer on that property, We saw just

1617
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: the one dough for one minute on the neighbors, and

1618
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: we put in you know, three full all days sits

1619
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: there at the end, and then that other day we

1620
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: were scouting most of the middle of the day. So essentially, yeah,

1621
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: essentially you've got full for four full days there um

1622
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: with not a single buck to show for him. It

1623
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: was the worst four days of hunting in the rut

1624
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: I think I've ever had. Um, I've never sat for

1625
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: so long and seen so few dear and not a

1626
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: single buck. So that then raises a lot of questions

1627
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: for me. It raised a lot of questions like what

1628
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: did I do wrong? What do we do wrong here

1629
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: these last four days, or what was going on that

1630
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: led to this being so bad. So this is something

1631
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about and curious what your thoughts are

1632
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: justin but I think we made a few things go

1633
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: On one, the warm weather absolutely is not helping. I know,

1634
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, I proved it on day one. You can

1635
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: kill deer on hot weather days during the ruts still possible.

1636
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: It just uses more tight time firms. Right this this

1637
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: movement earlier in the morning, there's movement late in the day,

1638
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: but not as much in the middle of the day.

1639
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: But it's still possible. All that said, it's it doesn't help.

1640
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: It certainly dampens things. It certainly makes things worse. You

1641
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: do not get that that, you know, intense daylight activity,

1642
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: you might otherwise. So I think the fact that we

1643
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 1: had seven straight days of seventy plus gregree weather absolutely

1644
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: slowed things down and kept us from seeing the kind

1645
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: of activity we could have. Um. I think another thing

1646
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: that hurt us was that, you know, these areas were

1647
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 1: even lower deer density than I realized, and I had

1648
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: almost no preparation or knowledge about these properties ahead of time.

1649
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: And that's on me. Um. You know, I was trying

1650
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: to find something throughout the summer, nothing came together, and

1651
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: when it finally did, it was, you know, mid season,

1652
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: and I was excited to have anything, so I jumped

1653
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: on it. My lesson here is that you know, this

1654
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: time we have is so um precious that I'm just

1655
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: wasting my time hunting stuff that I have not adequately

1656
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: prepared for. Can you show up at a brand new

1657
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: proper and figure it out? Yes? Have I done it? Yes?

1658
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Is it a lot of fun? Yes? In Nebraska. We

1659
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: did in Nebraska. Um. But at the same time, if

1660
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: there's any way to avoid that by being able to

1661
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: get started in the winter spring, why not do it.

1662
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: So I I'm going to rededicate myself in this off

1663
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: season to try to nail down my Ohio or whatever.

1664
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: My out of state option is going to be like

1665
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: a really find a really good spot and know it

1666
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: well and arrived comes season dialed in and knowing that, Okay,

1667
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: there are deer here. I know what's going on, I

1668
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: know what to expect. I hated the fact that we

1669
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: came here with like cameras aren't showing very much, but

1670
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: I hope it's good. I know that the areas should

1671
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: be decent. And then we get here and it's like

1672
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: a ghost town. I mean, the most ghost town of

1673
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: a property I've ever spent time on, and I'm just like, well,

1674
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trusting the feature in the sign.

1675
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I know there are deer here. There should be deer here,

1676
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: but maybe not many. Um And and so the rut

1677
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: can cover up a lot of um inadequacies. The rut

1678
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: can make up for a lack of knowledge. You can

1679
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: make up for a lack of um, scouting and preparation,

1680
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff sometimes, but you don't want

1681
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: to depend on that. You want to have everything lined

1682
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: up as best as you possibly can, and then if

1683
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: the rut gives you a little extra luck, great, take

1684
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: advantage of it. But I think in this case, you know,

1685
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: due to the weird set of circumstances, I was just

1686
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: forced in this issue where I had so little planning,

1687
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: and I think that hurt us. Yeah, while excuse me,

1688
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: While it can help you with the unpreparedness because you

1689
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,879
Speaker 1: never know what might happen, it can also be uh,

1690
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, amplified if you and the fact that if

1691
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: you're not in the right place, you haven't done that

1692
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: preseason or spent time, because then you're dedicating yourself to

1693
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: a spot that is they can be completely dead and

1694
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know, I still don't know

1695
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: why this spot wasn't a hot spot. It's sure screen

1696
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: about the ship for three days they're still and so

1697
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: so here's the possibilities. One possibility could have been that

1698
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: we just were unlucky and that there was a situation

1699
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: where there was a hot dough somewhere with our big

1700
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: buck locked onto her and all the other satellite bucks

1701
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: hanging out around it, and that was just in a

1702
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: different corner than we were, And you know, that's something

1703
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: that's not out of the question. That's something like that

1704
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: could happen for two or three days, and we were

1705
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: only there for three days, so that could have been

1706
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: what happened. Another possibility, maybe this thick betting area that

1707
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought was so awesome, maybe mostly bucks are just

1708
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: using that. Maybe that's a buck betting area and the

1709
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: does are betting somewhere else. Maybe I pinned all my

1710
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: hopes on a place thinking that's a dough hot spot,

1711
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: when instead all the bucks were down in some other

1712
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: corner where the does like to hang out more often.

1713
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: That's a possibility. This place was littered with buck sign

1714
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: but we never saw a dough, never bumped a dough.

1715
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't have tons of pictures of dos in there.

1716
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: I do have buck pick is in there. Um, So

1717
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: I might have dedicated our three days to a buckbed

1718
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: and um a buck bedroom like a buck palace, um

1719
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: at a time when you don't want to be hunting

1720
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: a buck bedroom. So that's possibility. It was still the

1721
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: best option for this property. Yeah, I mean I I

1722
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: think you gotta gree so credit because while you may

1723
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 1: not have done the preseason or had you know, the

1724
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to go in ahead of season and figure all

1725
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 1: that out, it's still you made the best decision based

1726
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: on the time allotment that you had, M so and

1727
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: and sometimes we have to do that, which is essentially

1728
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: what we did in Nebraska. But um, yeah, I mean

1729
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: even even if you were like, Okay, this is buck bedding,

1730
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: that's still the property we were dedicated to. So we

1731
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: still I think made the best decision based on the

1732
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: sign and what should have been happening during the ruck. Yeah.

1733
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: So then that brings me to the third question, which is,

1734
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, I dedicated myself to this betting are hunting

1735
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: a day and a half on one side of it

1736
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: and a day and a half on the other side

1737
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: of it, when you know, was it simply happening somewhere else?

1738
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,839
Speaker 1: And I guess I kind of are one of these options,

1739
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: was like, there could possibly be buck locked on a

1740
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: door somewhere else, But maybe I was just wrong, and

1741
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: maybe actually the hot betting area was over on the

1742
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: far other corner, on the neighbors that we didn't know about,

1743
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: over where there was a cornfield or something or some

1744
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: other draw that all the doors were hanging out over there,

1745
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: and I never even explored those spots. Right now, I mean,

1746
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: maybe something I should have done or could have done

1747
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: midday is like, all right, we're gonna walk about and

1748
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: just walk around til we start bumping deer or till

1749
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 1: we figure out what's happening right now. Um, some people

1750
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: would do that. I instead trusted in that location. So

1751
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: I believe in this betting air, eventually something has to

1752
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: cruise by. And nothing ever did um right, wrong or

1753
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: and different. That's what we did. Um, But I I

1754
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: do not know what the right call was. I don't

1755
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: know if there's I guess I'm still just scratching my head.

1756
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know it. I'm perplexed. I'm very perplexed. We

1757
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 1: could see a decent area tonight, we could hear long ways.

1758
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean nothing came through. Yeah, there was nothing going

1759
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,879
Speaker 1: through there without I was seeing it. I mean thirteen

1760
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: hours today and one deer came through before daylight and

1761
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: that was it. And it was a big area covered. Yeah,

1762
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think what you were saying is a

1763
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: good point where you started with, like what could have

1764
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: been the issue. I think. You know, with the rut,

1765
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, these deer are used to having a day

1766
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: or to pop up right where it's sixty seventy degrees

1767
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: and they they they're like in pre rot rot mode.

1768
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: But day four, day five, like at some point that

1769
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: hot weather, I feel like it's going to hit them

1770
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, I'm not sure what's going on,

1771
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: but like we're not doing this so and I think

1772
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: that's probably what happened. Is like like you said, like

1773
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember a prolonged like hot spell like this

1774
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: during the rut. It's usually like again, you get a

1775
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: day or two and I think they just keep rolling.

1776
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: But with the combination of that and um, the possibility

1777
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: that those books that we had that where you're targeting

1778
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: could have been, you know, just on the very next

1779
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: property over lockdown and there's just nothing you can do,

1780
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: just never know, except put time in the stand time

1781
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: in the stand. And we did that. I mean, we

1782
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: gave it everything we could. We We sat from dark

1783
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: to dark all three days there and then that one

1784
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: day we just scouted midday and had lunch. Um, So

1785
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: we certainly gave it an a effort. We gave it

1786
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: an a effort, Nebraska pulled it off, gave an effort

1787
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: in Ohio and got blanked. And I think that's an

1788
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: important lesson to take from this as well, is that

1789
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to the white tail rut, you can

1790
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 1: do everything right and still not get a buck. You

1791
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: can also make mistakes sometimes and get your buck. The rut.

1792
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: It can shine a spotlight on inadequacies. It can also

1793
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: put duct tape over a big old hole. It can

1794
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: do crazy things, and you simply need to go out there,

1795
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: put together the best possible plan you have, work, put

1796
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: in the time, and see where the chips fall, and

1797
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it for what it is like somehow embrace whatever

1798
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: it is. This is a hard one to embrace the

1799
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: last four days because I mean zero bucks for four

1800
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: days and just two tiny dough settings across all those

1801
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: hours in the tree. That was tough. But I kept

1802
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: on thinking back to the November or November one, thinking

1803
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: break to great that moment was, how great that day

1804
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and a half two days was. And so I think

1805
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to the rut, when the good times

1806
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: are good, like soak them in, really really enjoy it,

1807
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: because you got to know that the bad times are

1808
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna come. Like I was talking about this earlier this week,

1809
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: I think one of the best things we could do

1810
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: as deer hunters during the rut is reset our expectations

1811
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: right now. If you are listening right now, this might

1812
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: be the very most important thing you get out this

1813
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: entire podcast. Right now. I want you to reset your

1814
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: expectations for your upcoming rut hunts. They will not all

1815
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: be like a Drewary Outdoors video. They are not all

1816
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: going to be chasing, fighting, grunting, mating bucks NonStop. You

1817
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: are not going to have the super Bowl of the

1818
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: white tail rut dream scenario your entire trip or your

1819
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 1: entire hunt. In fact, most of your hunt will not

1820
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: be that. You should assume that of your hunt will

1821
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 1: be slow, monotonous, and boring. It will not be what

1822
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: you're dreaming of. You might get lucky and have a

1823
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: few of those special moments or one of those special days,

1824
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: or a couple of those special days. Set your expectations

1825
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: there and be okay with that, and be prepared to

1826
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 1: have fun with that, make the most of that, enjoy

1827
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: that for what it is. If you can go into

1828
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: the game with that expectation, I think, then whatever reality

1829
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: dishes out, you will then enjoy more. But when we

1830
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: go into it, and I do it every year every year,

1831
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, the what's gonna be amazing,

1832
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: It's gonna be magical. It's gonna be fourteen days of

1833
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: NonStop grunting and chasing. And it never lives up to

1834
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: that standard ever. If I just better prepared myself for

1835
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: it and just new like, all right, man, this is

1836
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: gonna be a grind and we're gonna have a couple

1837
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: of good times and then the rest is gonna be

1838
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: like but you weather that and you enjoy it for

1839
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: what it is, and then you're there and ready and

1840
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: able to take it offer tunity when it does present itself.

1841
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: So reset for reality. No, it's gonna be tough, and

1842
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: then you want me disappointed what it is and you

1843
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 1: will be super stoked when you do have those special

1844
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: days which are possible, and they do happen, and then

1845
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: what we live for, but they don't come by that often. Man.

1846
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: We had one special day out of seven and it

1847
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: was awesome. When we look back on this week, you know,

1848
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: next year and we look back on it, and that

1849
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: was great. We won't even remember the four days of misery.

1850
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 1: We'll think back to that one special day and I

1851
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: think that's you know, there's the we keep on hearing

1852
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,480
Speaker 1: this analogy, but there's like the analogy of like a pregnancy.

1853
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: Like my wife right after giving birth to our firstborn

1854
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: child was like, no way am I ever doing that again,

1855
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: But then like six months later she's like, oh my gosh,

1856
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have another child. Um, you gloss

1857
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: over the tough stuff with a little bit of time,

1858
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: and you just remember the good. And I think that's

1859
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: the case of the rut. So be prepared for some

1860
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: tough times and some slow times, and uh you'll be

1861
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: You'll be that much more excited and ready to take

1862
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: advantage of the good ones when they do come. That

1863
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: was a big takeaway from me and reminder out of

1864
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 1: this hunt. Um, were there any other main big things

1865
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: that stood to you as far as things either mistakes

1866
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I made or lesson as we learned observations. That's a

1867
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: different podcast. No, man, I think, Um, I think what

1868
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 1: you're saying is good. I think it's a good time

1869
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: to like to if if something's not working, like make

1870
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: a change, like if you have the option to if

1871
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: you're you sit a morning or two mornings, or you know,

1872
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: a full day sit and it's just not happening, and

1873
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: you have the flexibility to find where it's happening, do it.

1874
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like that movie we made mid

1875
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Day was great, even we only went hundred d twenty yards,

1876
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: but that really could have put us in the game.

1877
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Um So it could be that small but I think,

1878
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, you have to you're not on like a

1879
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: bed to food pattern necessarily during this time of year.

1880
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's a good time to think outside the box.

1881
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 1: And also, you know the night where we were like,

1882
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: we don't have that great of a wind, what's the

1883
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 1: used to climb in a tree? You know, get the decoy, yot.

1884
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 1: It's a great time to decoy and um, you know

1885
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: it also, especially for us on a property we've never

1886
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: been on, gave us an opportunity to learn more because

1887
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: if for some reason that night we saw a deer

1888
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 1: coming out of that's the you know jump in the

1889
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: fence where the cows were, saw a deer coming across

1890
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: one corner, it could have made a you know, a

1891
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: lot of our just Asians for the next day or

1892
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. So I would encourage uh

1893
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to you use that time to grow as a hunter,

1894
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: just in general, like you don't have to PLoP yourself,

1895
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, the peg in the hole. Just put your

1896
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: head on a swivel and if it's not working, find him. Yeah. Yeah,

1897
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: just observing the just observing the just that's the tricks.

1898
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: So I think big things here, even during the rut,

1899
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: gather until at the beginning of your hunt. Well that's

1900
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: scouting preseason, or scouting the first day or scouting midday.

1901
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: The last thing. Doing observations says if you don't know

1902
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,759
Speaker 1: what the heck you're doing, figure something out. Don't commit

1903
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: before you know something. That's a big one. I think

1904
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: what you said is another big lesson. Continue to pivot,

1905
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: observe a just pivot. Observe a just pivot. Don't lock

1906
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: yourself into something unless you have confidence. When you do

1907
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: have confidence in the terrain feature or a habitat type,

1908
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: give it some time to produce. But you need this

1909
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 1: part comes out to experience. I think you need to

1910
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: know from experience or gut when it's time to pull

1911
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: the plug, Like for me, you know, giving it a

1912
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: day and a half in that first spot was like, Okay,

1913
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: that's enough I get. I got two morning sits in

1914
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: which where I was really really expecting something, and then

1915
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: an evening sit that was enough where I was like, okay,

1916
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: I really love this feature. I love this spot. But

1917
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: pulling the plug on it um that is something though,

1918
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: that is always easier so than done knowing when the

1919
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 1: right move is and that should That's a sliding scale too,

1920
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: based on deer density. You know, if we're in a

1921
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: very high deer deer density area, you might be able

1922
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: to make a decision more quickly when you see like

1923
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: all the deer do something different. But in a low

1924
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: deer density area, you do need to sit a longer

1925
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 1: period of time sometimes to ever have a chance for

1926
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: something to come through, because good deer movement in a

1927
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: low deer density area might be too dear coming through

1928
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: your you know, ten acres in a day, and you

1929
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: gotta know for that or be prepared for that. So

1930
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: it was a weird rut. It was a weird trip,

1931
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: Like I'm still processing, I'm still thinking through I don't

1932
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: know what to make of this second half in Ohio.

1933
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: I loved what we did in Nebraska. I've got work

1934
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: still do with my shooting, but I'm making progress. The

1935
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: ruts amazing, the ruts brutal. Um. I feel a heck

1936
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: of a lot better on this episode than I did

1937
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: in the episode I recorded after my one we Can

1938
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: November trip last year. I'll tell you that missing that

1939
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: buck last year was devastating. Killing this buck this year

1940
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: was an incredible relief and so gratifying. Um. And maybe

1941
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: the final thing I should mention is that I'm having

1942
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 1: a great hunting season and I'm doing it while having fun.

1943
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: I've removed a lot of the pressure I used to

1944
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: put on myself. I'm spending more time with my family,

1945
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: spend some time with some buddies. I'm getting out and

1946
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: doing stuff when I'm excited about. Given time to mentoring

1947
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 1: new hunters. I'm not traveling to ten thou states. Instead,

1948
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm close to home, but still doing a future trips,

1949
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: trying to find balance, and I'm just not trying to

1950
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: do it for anyone else but me now. And I'm

1951
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: having a great time. And I think everyone's got to

1952
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: find their own way to do that in their own hunts,

1953
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 1: finding the fun, find how to fulfill your own goals

1954
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 1: and not do it for anybody else, and enjoy this stuff.

1955
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: The rut we always talk about, you got to grind

1956
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: it out. It's a marathon. You gotta put in the time.

1957
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 1: You gotta work, work, work, work, work. It's all true,

1958
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: But at what expense if you are not having fun.

1959
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: You're out there hunting during the rut because it's fun.

1960
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: So don't make it like a tactical battle plan that

1961
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: you have to suffer through. Enjoy it. There's a lot

1962
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: of stuff in life that sucks. There's a lot of

1963
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: stuff in life that's hard. We're all gonna face tough challenges.

1964
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: There's gonna be tough, disappointing, tragic things happen in our lives.

1965
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: We don't need to add any more nasty, bummer kind

1966
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: of situations to her life. If we're gonna add deer

1967
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: hunting as is a part of our lifestyle, make sure

1968
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: it's a positive. Make sure it's a fun thing. Make

1969
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: sure you're not going hunting because you feel obligated to

1970
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: go hunting, but go because you actually want to go.

1971
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: Don't sit all day because you feel obligated. Because if

1972
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: you don't kill a big buck your you think your

1973
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: buddy is gonna look at you differently. No sit all

1974
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: day because you're stoked about it. If you're not stoked

1975
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: about it, spend time with your family, or go do

1976
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: something with your kids, or go do some of some friends.

1977
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Don't do it to impress anyone. Don't do it because

1978
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: I tell you should do it, or because someone on

1979
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: TV told you should do it. Have fun. And I

1980
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: think that's my final message for for our little recap

1981
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:52,839
Speaker 1: podcast here Justin I can agree with that. Any other thoughts, Nope,

1982
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: And I need to get home to Hunt. I know

1983
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: you've been working on as a cameraman. Now it's trying

1984
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 1: to be the shooter. All right, Well we'll we'll wrap

1985
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: this one up. Thanks for tuning in for this long

1986
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: winding discussion post Hunt recap episode. Hopefully learned a few

1987
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: things you enjoyed the story. I'm still reveling in the

1988
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: glory of that Nebraska buck. You can check out pictures

1989
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: of it over on my Instagram account at wired to

1990
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Hunt and UH. You'll get to see the hunt on

1991
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: one week in November season two, which will come out

1992
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 1: in UH, and Justin nailed some sweet footage of that

1993
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: of that deer. We unfortunately has zero buck footage for

1994
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the trip, but it was really good

1995
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: at the beginning. Um So that said, thank you for

1996
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 1: tuning in, appreciate you being a part of this community.

1997
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 1: Best of luck out there in the woods. Enjoy the rut,

1998
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: and until next time, stay wired to Hunt.