Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard justin my infant almost.
Speaker 2: Died, Yeah, okay, in the fire in a drugs shootings
Speaker 2: after mass shooting, mass shooting, a mass shooting after mass shootings.
Speaker 1: I know, out of context that probably sounded really fucked up.
Speaker 2: It does sound up, but it's the top.
Speaker 3: None of us said we don't think anything is that
Speaker 3: fucked up.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Well, I want I want you to be in
Speaker 1: on it because I think it's very just. I think
Speaker 1: it's important for the show that we're all speaking the
Speaker 1: same language here, the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all speaking the truth according to the Church
Speaker 2: of Benny Johnson.
Speaker 1: About Washington, d C. And it's actually such a it's
Speaker 1: such a cess pit that it's so fucked up. I
Speaker 1: just want to this is just him. This is him
Speaker 1: making up a tragedy that clearly happened, did not happen.
Speaker 2: You don't think DC is fucked up, You.
Speaker 4: Don't personal experiences. I don't believe the bullshit that you
Speaker 4: hear online from some reporters all crimes down.
Speaker 2: In d C.
Speaker 4: Well, that is infant nearly died in a drug fire
Speaker 4: in a drug after mass.
Speaker 2: Shootings, after mass shootings.
Speaker 4: So no, DC is not safe just.
Speaker 2: After you guys live in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're from a big city.
Speaker 2: You guys actually just came from the drug fire after
Speaker 2: the mass shootings.
Speaker 3: That's what you heard in the background. I was like,
Speaker 3: our whole life is just one big drug fire.
Speaker 2: But yeah, hello the Internet, and welcome to season four
Speaker 2: oh two, Episode two of dared Ally's Guy. This production
Speaker 2: of My Heart Radio is a podcast where you take
Speaker 2: a deep avenue America's share consciousness. That was a good Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a good Dean scream, which maybe it's just normal,
Speaker 2: but I I've been away from it for too long.
Speaker 2: I've been been at sea for too long. It's Tuesday,
Speaker 2: August nineteenth, twenty twenty five. That seems wrong, is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? August, yes, right, eight, nineteen twenty cases. You're right.
Speaker 1: You know what that is. It's National fucking Potato Day,
Speaker 1: It's National Aviation Day, and it's you know, actually, I
Speaker 1: love this National soft ice cream Day. I love soft serve.
Speaker 1: Soft serve for me, better than better than the fucking
Speaker 1: scoop Shit. Sorry, that's just.
Speaker 2: Me then the scoop ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, better than hard serve.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I get some of the scoop shit. Hey,
Speaker 2: hard serve is great? Hey can I get some hard serve?
Speaker 3: Do you guys have hard serve?
Speaker 2: Or is just a soft do you want to get?
Speaker 3: You want heart? You want your safer hard served? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ye ser service? Yeah? Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever tried to use a soft serve machine? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do the How.
Speaker 1: Are college cafeteria so good?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: I don't do the swirl?
Speaker 2: I do the oh you do they get the queen?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you get the little concentric little doughnuts going yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. My cousin worked at a shop, so she
Speaker 1: she always showed me the technique.
Speaker 2: I used to be so nice with it because I
Speaker 2: went to this basketball camp at a college, and just
Speaker 2: every day at lunch, like I was, people would just
Speaker 2: give me their cones to make the cones with, and
Speaker 2: I could do I could do the little bloops, but
Speaker 2: I could also do the kind of the swirly thing.
Speaker 3: What are you doing here?
Speaker 2: Then? Exactly? Man, it's like piano man, man, what are
Speaker 2: you doing here? A dairy queen somewhere? Uh should be
Speaker 2: soft serve man. I So I was bragging about this
Speaker 2: my kids and I and my parents were a restaurant
Speaker 2: that had a soft serve machine. I was Plantation, get ready,
Speaker 2: it was not sup Plantation.
Speaker 1: Problematic name, but now they anymore.
Speaker 2: Soup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely in the West coast, it was like a salad.
Speaker 1: It was like a lunch business salad bar place, but
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 3: Like a business salad.
Speaker 2: I it was coming out too fast, so I talked
Speaker 2: all this ship and then the thing was coming out
Speaker 2: too fast.
Speaker 5: My ship was so lopsided it looked like you probably
Speaker 5: look like such a fucking froudy, Like yo, watch me
Speaker 5: for shipping out too fast.
Speaker 2: Now it was like they should put a fucking warning
Speaker 2: on how this thing comes out.
Speaker 1: There should be a governance chip on this spoken machine
Speaker 1: or something a regulator.
Speaker 2: All right, enough enough bullshit, Time for me to sing
Speaker 2: a dumb song. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. I
Speaker 2: used to sing songs about my hands being awkward. I
Speaker 2: used to sing songs referencing cold gas. But now all
Speaker 2: I get or a K is about p p Do
Speaker 2: you even remember when we did our rage c P
Speaker 2: K and that one courtesy of short show title spice
Speaker 2: Johnny Davis on the Discord, who specifically said not sorry
Speaker 2: about all those extra syllables there and you are not
Speaker 2: forgiven because you're not sorry, but yeah, shout out to everybody.
Speaker 2: So many p related a ka is waiting for me
Speaker 2: after a few days off, thanks overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Visibly concerning our guests, I did Lauren get.
Speaker 2: Us pe running down my leg ak he wrote me
Speaker 2: goes on for a half hour, So I just cut
Speaker 2: that off even though it seemed like it went on
Speaker 2: for a half hour.
Speaker 1: Those we can probably do a lot show just singing
Speaker 1: all the aha.
Speaker 6: We were going to get along because that's basically our
Speaker 6: writing process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just singing great minds. I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 2: as always by my co host mister Miles.
Speaker 1: Grass Miles Gray aka oh infant nearly died mass shooting,
Speaker 1: drug fire explosion. When you need a pretext for your
Speaker 1: civil rights erosion, Bennie Johnson's parents should have probably used
Speaker 1: the trojan infant nearly died mass shooting, drug fire explosion.
Speaker 1: Nick separ teeranis for that fucking fever aka yes, and
Speaker 1: you're still talking about the Bennie Johnson made up story
Speaker 1: about wait, what's that again?
Speaker 4: My infant nearly died in a drug fire, mass shootings.
Speaker 2: After mass shootings, God, after the mass shootings.
Speaker 3: Cause the drug fire.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't know what was he doing to say.
Speaker 1: How is he in proximity of a drug fire.
Speaker 2: With his with the after mass shootings so.
Speaker 3: Many didn't die.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what's fine.
Speaker 2: My entire life has happened. It's like amos, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: life has been has happened in the aftermath of mass shootings.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's true generally, right, Yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: you know, everything is after mask shooting.
Speaker 6: Was out of school, though it sounds like he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third and
Speaker 2: fourth seats by the very funny hosts of the podcast
Speaker 2: dead Heads, which is a true crime look into who
Speaker 2: murdered their bank accounts? Nay, all of our bank accounts.
Speaker 2: Please welcome, Jamie Feldman and Rachel Webster. Is that right?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 6: Just want to clarify, just in case people think it's
Speaker 6: dead Heads.
Speaker 3: It's dead Heads?
Speaker 2: Did I no? You know?
Speaker 3: But everybody's still people do everybody still thinks it's not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: This year, Yeah, we're like, we'll meet you in Vain.
Speaker 3: You guys in debt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a bit of a debt head. That's how
Speaker 2: I pronounced dead.
Speaker 1: Have you made merch that looks like grateful Dead stuff?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Actually it's in progress, it's yeah, yeah, okay, great, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Grateful Dead left. It would be
Speaker 2: like super re litigious, you know, like how that generation.
Speaker 6: We had the Grateful Dead bears in our first original
Speaker 6: like seven hundred page deck that we were sending to
Speaker 6: potential sponsors, and then we were like, we need to
Speaker 6: have a one page deck and also get rid of
Speaker 6: the dancing pairs in our art work, and so we
Speaker 6: came up with our own artwork.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't an inspiration early on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like kind of like an ironic sentiment
Speaker 1: like grateful debt somehow in our something.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, is that something.
Speaker 3: You shut down? You should beat? That is what they
Speaker 3: say to our generation.
Speaker 1: Can I be on your podcast? Can I be your podcast? Now?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? We need to make a new episode, so this
Speaker 6: maybe this is it. Yeah, this is what we're instead
Speaker 6: of writing our new episode for on this podcast.
Speaker 3: So thank you guys for giving us some questions.
Speaker 2: How much of your portfolio is invested in avocado toast.
Speaker 2: This is my first questions problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's tae get a step back.
Speaker 1: Well back, they're they're even worse off than we thought.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to strike while the iron Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to just do a fill in the blank. You
Speaker 2: guys are gonna tell me you got to strike while
Speaker 2: the irons on on on the steam setting.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't only work when they're standing bolved.
Speaker 2: Well, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get
Speaker 2: to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 2: we're going to listener to a couple of the things
Speaker 2: we're talking about from the zeitgeist, from the news, if
Speaker 2: you will. We're get in a sense of what Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and Vladimir Putin talk about when they're alone together.
Speaker 2: I think we're alone now we can just you know,
Speaker 2: have two hearts beating as one. I think those are
Speaker 2: two eighty songs that I'm confusing. But anyways, they Donald
Speaker 2: Trump came out and was like, you know, I am
Speaker 2: going to look into the voting machines because Ladimir Putin
Speaker 2: told me that I got fucked in the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2: And he is a reliable narrator on that subject. So
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about DC being safe again from people looking to shield
Speaker 2: their babies from the drug fire after the Mats shootings.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about just why white collar crime like that,
Speaker 2: you know, is this where we should be putting our
Speaker 2: money right now? White collar crime seems like it's boom
Speaker 2: times for white color crime. I think you do need
Speaker 2: to be generationally healthy to get away with it though, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the ultra
Speaker 2: wealthy trying to live forever, a bunch of shit, the
Speaker 2: gen Z Millennial debt crisis, so many articles, no explanation,
Speaker 2: all that, plenty more. But first we do like to
Speaker 2: ask our guests Jamie Rachel, what is something from your
Speaker 2: search history that's revealing about who you guys are?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's so it's like a perfect it
Speaker 6: encapsulates us, like what Rachel's Google search is and what
Speaker 6: mine is. I'll go first and Rachel go. You could
Speaker 6: see where the differences are. So my most recent Google shirt.
Speaker 7: Search was and just like that ending insane because I
Speaker 7: was watching the Psychotic and just like that finale, serious finale,
Speaker 7: and I was double screening because I couldn't like really
Speaker 7: process watching it, like fully engaging because it was so insane.
Speaker 7: And I saw an article that was like something like that,
Speaker 7: and I wanted to find it and read to see
Speaker 7: if it had the same feelings that I had.
Speaker 3: So that's like I did it.
Speaker 2: It was you alone. I'm hearing a lot of chatter
Speaker 2: out there, but I don't want it spoiled for me.
Speaker 3: I will tell you something.
Speaker 6: There's nothing to be spoiled because not a single thing
Speaker 6: has happened. I think in three seasons of this show,
Speaker 6: it's like a it's like a visual like supposed to
Speaker 6: be like a visual xen.
Speaker 7: Actually it's almost like HGTV, but like nothing even gets
Speaker 7: like made. And I think that it was not I
Speaker 7: think that like my takeaway and I wanted to write
Speaker 7: an essay about this, but I feel like it's not
Speaker 7: even worth my time is that capitalism ruined the legacy
Speaker 7: of Sex and the City and that like clearly this
Speaker 7: was made because like a few rich people wanted to
Speaker 7: get like a bit richer, and if they had just
Speaker 7: let it be like one series and ended at you know,
Speaker 7: the end of the series, then like the legacy would
Speaker 7: not be completely ruined, and so I think there's a
Speaker 7: bigger thesis.
Speaker 3: But maybe that's just me.
Speaker 7: Everyone else is just like this was so bad and crazy,
Speaker 7: and it was, but I think that there's like a
Speaker 7: larger issue there.
Speaker 1: We can zoom out for a little bit. Yeah, why
Speaker 1: why even do this?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And like I get it, Like I loved Sex
Speaker 7: and the City. It was a formative piece of work.
Speaker 7: It's obviously it was problematic, but like it was funny
Speaker 7: and the writing was good, and it was really, you know,
Speaker 7: progressive for the time, I guess, at least in some ways,
Speaker 7: even though Carrie Bradshaw's supposed to be a sex writer
Speaker 7: and she's like the most prude person I've ever seen
Speaker 7: on television. But you know, I think it has its place,
Speaker 7: and it has its like you know, forever legacy and
Speaker 7: pop culture. And now I'm just like I don't even
Speaker 7: know how to feel, Like, I don't even know how
Speaker 7: to feel about it anymore. I'm just kind of angry.
Speaker 2: Did it end with any We had a pitch we
Speaker 2: were expecting something having to do with nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: because like nine to eleven never really happened in the series.
Speaker 3: That actually it ends on nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what that was.
Speaker 6: My guess, it's not eleven twenty twenty five. And they're
Speaker 6: like at a memorial ceremony, like what's happening, and they're like,
Speaker 6: I didn't even know this happened.
Speaker 1: They're like I never come downtown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I.
Speaker 3: Haven't been below fourteenth Street in my whole life.
Speaker 7: Oh, nine to eleven didn't happen for them, So yeah,
Speaker 7: they just re redid it for them at the end.
Speaker 3: That's why it was so bad.
Speaker 2: How about you, Rachel?
Speaker 6: That probably should have been my search T shirt because
Speaker 6: I didn't ever watch it or know the title of it,
Speaker 6: but mine was sort of similarly embarrassing. I googled American
Speaker 6: exceptionalism that was the most recent.
Speaker 3: And it's embarrassing in that, you.
Speaker 6: Know, it's like one of those things like terms that we,
Speaker 6: you know, throw it on conversation and then when we're
Speaker 6: really trying to write about it, maybe you're not, maybe
Speaker 6: not everybody's trying to. But it's sort of like anything
Speaker 6: where it's like you're writing about a bigger concept, a
Speaker 6: historical concept, or you know, something philosophical, and you think
Speaker 6: you understand it, but then when you try to write
Speaker 6: about it. You're like, no, I actually need to like
Speaker 6: make sure I know what the fucking meaning.
Speaker 2: Of this is.
Speaker 6: And so I picked this one because it was my
Speaker 6: most recent and it's emblematic of how our research has
Speaker 6: been in this project, because we're constantly trying to write
Speaker 6: about these things and we're like, wait.
Speaker 3: Do we really understand that how things work?
Speaker 6: And then I also kind of want to normalize like
Speaker 6: not knowing the dictionary definition of every fucking thing in
Speaker 6: the world, Like everybody is out here with a hot take,
Speaker 6: and maybe we just need to kind of acknowledge that
Speaker 6: not everybody knows everything all this, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 6: okay to like maybe get to the bottom of it
Speaker 6: occasionally and think.
Speaker 1: I was Yeah, I use the term the term milk
Speaker 1: toast to describe a really boring breakfast, and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll test a lot, and I like it because
Speaker 6: it does have that sort of double entundra, like it
Speaker 6: like you imagine it being a boring.
Speaker 1: Breakfast and also toasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds like a gross bread to
Speaker 2: be honest, milk toast, what do you's just pouring milk?
Speaker 1: Milk.
Speaker 6: It's like at the end of Get Out when she's
Speaker 6: like drinking the cereal separately. It's like disturbing milk just
Speaker 6: dairy in general.
Speaker 2: So is it just to close the loop on this way?
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you were searching American exceptionalism still true? And
Speaker 2: is it still? We're still exceptional? Right, We're still the
Speaker 2: best thing.
Speaker 6: I think that we're more the best than ever according
Speaker 6: to the people in charge.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Made it great and we're never leaving. Good job, everybody.
Speaker 2: What is something that you guys think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, we.
Speaker 6: We you think going to the movies is underrated, and
Speaker 6: and we say that because I feel like I care
Speaker 6: deeply about the movies and I want them to thrive,
Speaker 6: and I think it's harder and harder for them to
Speaker 6: get made because people don't go to the movies.
Speaker 3: This is very nico, Yes, very nicol answer here is yeah,
Speaker 3: there we go. We come to this place for magic
Speaker 3: because it is.
Speaker 2: I like to end the end of conversation like that,
Speaker 2: even when it doesn't apply at all, because here it
Speaker 2: is because it doesn't really you know, harp, which is
Speaker 2: feel good in a place like that, you know, it
Speaker 2: just does heartbreak feels good in a place like this
Speaker 2: because here it is because he is, we're being.
Speaker 3: Movies and she wasn't. One of my favorite movies of
Speaker 3: the year. Cool baby boy, she believes it, she walks
Speaker 3: the walk. We loved Baby Girl.
Speaker 6: We love Baby Girls so much that we were forced
Speaker 6: to see it with open captions. We were because because
Speaker 6: we saw in the afternoon, and in the afternoon is
Speaker 6: when all the open cash movies are, which we didn't know.
Speaker 6: But we loved it so much that we even loved
Speaker 6: it despite it being showing, which is of course obviously
Speaker 6: it's inaccessibility, but when you don't need the open captions,
Speaker 6: and we were like, still.
Speaker 2: Do they do they like say the joke before that
Speaker 2: it happens like on I hate Netflix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like this, you know, it's like this
Speaker 3: music is playing like that stop.
Speaker 6: You anyway, no one asked us to do make the
Speaker 6: open captions, although maybe they would be.
Speaker 3: I do realize that I am going off when I
Speaker 3: when I because I do have everybody does now.
Speaker 7: Actually we watched them. Have you guys seen the movie Kneecap?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, okay, it's so.
Speaker 2: I did watch it with the captions, and.
Speaker 6: We I feel like we saw at once in the
Speaker 6: theater together with Rachel's family, and then we watch it
Speaker 6: again with Rachel's family at home with captions, and I
Speaker 6: felt like I hurt. I got so much more on
Speaker 6: it just from that accent. Now you speak Gaelic, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: and well, so they are. I do feel like this
Speaker 6: is a thing that capitalism is stolen from us, because
Speaker 6: now I do feel like because I'm also like very
Speaker 6: concerned about the state of like going to the movies
Speaker 6: and movie theaters, and so I feel bad anytime I'm
Speaker 6: like talking shit about a movie that's still in the
Speaker 6: theaters because but that's against the party line. I want
Speaker 6: to still be able to talk shit about movies. That's
Speaker 6: like the fun but part of the experience. I also
Speaker 6: spend like the entire twenty minutes before people are seated
Speaker 6: and the movie starts just constantly like started gailing, what
Speaker 6: like the things that are going to go wrong, Like
Speaker 6: is that person going to sit right in front of
Speaker 6: that person they.
Speaker 3: Know that they're not, you know.
Speaker 6: In these we go to BAM, which is like one
Speaker 6: of the few places where you can like actually just
Speaker 6: pick your seat when you get there, which I do appreciate.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate the like planned thing. I hate
Speaker 3: the lack of spontaneity, but.
Speaker 6: I'm also like completely anxious for like thirty minutes while
Speaker 6: I'm like watching people be like are you going.
Speaker 3: To fuck this experience up for me? Are you gonna
Speaker 3: sit ring in front of me? Are you going to
Speaker 3: like be the one eating all the popworn all the
Speaker 3: whole time?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 7: And at the same time, where like the reason we
Speaker 7: feel like going part of the reason that's underrated is
Speaker 7: that like going to have an experience in a room
Speaker 7: with a bunch of strangers, and like having this communal
Speaker 7: experience is something that we don't again like talk about capitalism,
Speaker 7: like everything is privatized. No, but everybody is like in
Speaker 7: their own homes, like not in the world and being
Speaker 7: in community, and like the movies are still one of
Speaker 7: the only places that you can kind of have that experience.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I eat popcorn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. A lot of other places that I'm willing
Speaker 2: to go and eat popcorn, but the movies is the
Speaker 2: most socially accepted one. What is something you guys think
Speaker 2: is overrated? Okay, unless was there another underrated?
Speaker 3: Or we do everything together, so are underrated?
Speaker 6: Are the same we think eating in restaurants is highly overrated,
Speaker 6: and this is sort of you know, like I think
Speaker 6: some people like this is their communal version, but I
Speaker 6: really I especially in America today, I hate a restaurants
Speaker 6: and in New York and in New York specifically, I
Speaker 6: think this also goes back to like this spontaneity thing
Speaker 6: of like going to a movie theater with everything Sunday.
Speaker 6: Now it's like New York is you can't just walk
Speaker 6: into a fucking run, which is like one of the
Speaker 6: things that I think makes New York. So you want
Speaker 6: to go to a restaurant when you're like out and
Speaker 6: you're like, oh shit, we're hungry, Let's go to this restaurant,
Speaker 6: have this experience. You can't do it if you didn't
Speaker 6: plan your whole night and advance your whole like months
Speaker 6: in advance. For most places, like even like shitty restaurants
Speaker 6: are like, oh do you have a resume?
Speaker 1: Like like you can buy it from a reservation scalper.
Speaker 3: Stupid, and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't like that.
Speaker 6: We like certain kinds of restaurant experiences like Chinatown, like
Speaker 6: Brighton Beach, going to like out, you know, into deep
Speaker 6: having like dumplings and having an adventure, but like the
Speaker 6: prospect of like.
Speaker 3: Trying to just eat a meal with some people on
Speaker 3: any given night, and like a mediocre restaurant with a night.
Speaker 6: Everything is too expensive now, And I feel like that
Speaker 6: also has to do with the fact that, like, if
Speaker 6: you travel, you'll see a little bit more equity between
Speaker 6: like the people who are serving you and the people
Speaker 6: who were and now it's just like everything else in America,
Speaker 6: it's like completely massive discrepancy there, and so I think
Speaker 6: that that makes it just fundamentally not fun anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, there we go overrated.
Speaker 1: Odd place we live in.
Speaker 2: I mean, even one of the good restaurants experiences you
Speaker 2: were talking about was also a movie, so that Chinatown,
Speaker 2: which is a good all right, Well, that was great.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna come back.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about some news stories that are happening
Speaker 2: to the zeitgeist, which is one of the words in
Speaker 2: the title of this podcast. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 2: we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, We're back.
Speaker 2: And hey, this this kind of relates to what your
Speaker 2: area of expertise, what your podcast is about. We've been
Speaker 2: noticing a lot of articles about the gen Z millennial
Speaker 2: debt crisis, but we don't really like to look into
Speaker 2: why that's happening. I think it's probably just like personal responsibility,
Speaker 2: you know how, like when there's crimes and then we
Speaker 2: like to look at individual people and be like, this guy,
Speaker 2: what a bad person they are for doing that crime,
Speaker 2: but don't we don't like to like look into broad
Speaker 2: systemic reasons behind things in the same way with the
Speaker 2: with the debt crisis. Is that sort of thing you've noticed.
Speaker 3: All personal science is one's own responsibility?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why can't you guys just get it together together?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was so worried you guys are going to
Speaker 2: call us broke boys. When you came on the PODYA.
Speaker 6: Everybody thinks we're a financial like literacy podcast, and we're.
Speaker 3: Like, no, do not take advice from us. I mean
Speaker 3: the advice I think we want people to.
Speaker 7: Take from us is exactly what you're saying, which is like,
Speaker 7: we need to start questioning the bigger picture versus why
Speaker 7: we're all led to believe that if we are quote
Speaker 7: unquote failing at finance and it's just because of something
Speaker 7: that we did or we ate too much avocado toast
Speaker 7: or you know, it's sort of like we're trying to
Speaker 7: help people come to that conclusion in a way that
Speaker 7: makes them feel It's.
Speaker 6: Also like you're mentioning that it's like a big topic
Speaker 6: right now for gen Z millennials, which is its own story.
Speaker 6: But every year in January they have the same stories.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, everybody has to pay off the contract.
Speaker 6: It's like, here's how here's somebody who's going to come
Speaker 6: home today. Yeah, yes, exactly, And they're like, here's the
Speaker 6: five tips, and they're always the same thing, and it's
Speaker 6: like we you know, one of the main things that
Speaker 6: started this whole idea was like this, these same fucking
Speaker 6: five tips have been you know, doled out on major
Speaker 6: news outlets for years, years and years and years, and
Speaker 6: it's always the same. That's increasing, that's increasing, it's never
Speaker 6: not increasing, right, So we're.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't I think maybe these tips aren't working.
Speaker 1: Have you tried Have you tried not eating though, like
Speaker 1: they said, I actually have.
Speaker 3: In high school, it was a dark ye if you're
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't see the inside of.
Speaker 3: A restaurant unless you're working there. We're not gonna and
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 6: I mean, we're not going to anyway because we with
Speaker 6: the restaurant.
Speaker 1: I don't have reservations.
Speaker 2: The only reason.
Speaker 3: Why exactly we can get in, it's not because we
Speaker 3: can't afford them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so y'all want a couple of baconators, So do
Speaker 1: you have reservations to win?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So then you can fuck off?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Like the last few months, constantly just like headline
Speaker 1: after a headline, there's one like that came out last week.
Speaker 1: It's like sixty two percent of gen Z you have
Speaker 1: zero emergency savings. I'm like, bro, I didn't have emergency savings,
Speaker 1: like fucking I was thirty three. I thought for me,
Speaker 1: savings was like ship I saved up for so I
Speaker 1: could waste it on buying something. It wasn't like long
Speaker 1: term savings things because again I was raised to be
Speaker 1: financially illiterate. And yeah, like to your point, many these
Speaker 1: so many these articles are written in a way that's
Speaker 1: sort of like, oh, so what are they gonna do
Speaker 1: since they're all screwed, rather than any kind of again,
Speaker 1: substantive analysis on the era we live in and like
Speaker 1: the corporate greed that seems to you know, dictate everything.
Speaker 1: This one USA Today article that says more millennials are
Speaker 1: falling into debt? What's to blame for this worrisome trend?
Speaker 1: I said, let me do a command def and see
Speaker 1: if capitalism. So no, nope, nope, it's stuff like like
Speaker 1: one or like interest rates. Sure, okay, great. But then
Speaker 1: there's other ones where they found one guy who they're
Speaker 1: like this, one guy I started a business selling Pokemon
Speaker 1: cards and financed it with credit cards, and now he's
Speaker 1: all fucking upside down on this, and you're like, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: that's a true story about one person that helps me
Speaker 1: the generation.
Speaker 2: He actually couldn't find any financially stupid people before the
Speaker 2: ninety nine No, actually everyone was financially s baby boomer financial.
Speaker 3: I rean that why, Yeah, we're dumb. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: I read this tweet that we were talking about the
Speaker 6: other day that was like the amount of minimum wage
Speaker 6: that would have to exist for us to have like
Speaker 6: the same spending potential as boomers is sixty dicks sixty
Speaker 6: sixty dicks sixty six dollars power.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm back, hold on, what was that sixty?
Speaker 2: What was that about? Sixty dicks sixty yeah.
Speaker 7: You would need to make sixty six dollars per hour
Speaker 7: to have the same spending power.
Speaker 2: But the idea of raising the minimum wage is like everybody, like,
Speaker 2: the idea of like a thirty dollars minimum wage like
Speaker 2: hits people's ears, Like what's next, They're gonna make kids.
Speaker 1: Go to the bathroom, and literally so much so much
Speaker 1: of that pushback comes from like older generations, especially boomers,
Speaker 1: who continue to like look at our financial situation through
Speaker 1: the prism of their fucking experiences. I mean kids, just
Speaker 1: good of I was a waitress and I had an apartment,
Speaker 1: and you're like, uh huh, yeah. Like I have so
Speaker 1: many conversations with my older relatives who have kids that
Speaker 1: are millennials and younger where I'm constantly telling them they're like,
Speaker 1: they are not fucking up for starters, because.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in fact, so much of this problem is because
Speaker 6: we're following the boomer playbook, which is historically unprecedented. Like
Speaker 6: the amount of access to socialism that they had is
Speaker 6: unprecedented in our history. It was one time I don't
Speaker 6: say that word, yeah, but I mean that's what they had.
Speaker 6: And then literally, i mean we're writing about this like
Speaker 6: literally at the beginning of the millennial era, like late
Speaker 6: seventies early eighties is when everything changes across.
Speaker 3: The board and it all really comes down to that
Speaker 3: period of time.
Speaker 6: It was like but and many other things, but like
Speaker 6: culturally that and politically, that's when everything changed. And then
Speaker 6: they're like, well we did it this way, and it's
Speaker 6: like we're still fun. We're still saying, oh, we got
Speaker 6: to go to college, but now it's really expensive. We're like,
Speaker 6: you've got to get a house, but we can't afford it.
Speaker 6: You've got to like you know, risk everything for your
Speaker 6: like the American dream, and it's like no, because we
Speaker 6: have predatory credit cards to work with, not like you know,
Speaker 6: low finance loans are like access.
Speaker 3: To you know, interest rate exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: And even like in our neighborhood in Brooklyn, like I
Speaker 7: was walking around the other day and it's all these
Speaker 7: like capital like venture capital, like dentists and vets.
Speaker 3: You know that we're like don't exist anymore. We don't
Speaker 3: even think.
Speaker 7: We don't even stop to think about like how concentrated
Speaker 7: the wealth is and how few people own so much,
Speaker 7: and how we don't even have like the fighting chance.
Speaker 6: Like the thing that day the thing that so many
Speaker 6: of these people like to hold up as the stand
Speaker 6: American standard, this like entrepreneurial bootstraps experience, which is, by
Speaker 6: the way, like fucking myth, but they still hold it up.
Speaker 3: And the irony is right now, like nobody's an entrepreneur.
Speaker 6: Everybody's just using their inherited generational wealth to like mastimize
Speaker 6: their profits.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the predatory aspect, yeah, absolutely, Like inequality is often
Speaker 2: raised as like an issue, but they don't talk about
Speaker 2: the fact that, like the way wealthy people are investing
Speaker 2: their money is oftentimes in things that are you know,
Speaker 2: preying on people who have less. It's like literal is
Speaker 2: the is the problem. And it's also the like mechanism
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: Your stock and private prison stock has a skyrocket.
Speaker 6: It's exactly exactly that's I know, we were talking joking
Speaker 6: that we were going to just make as our next episode,
Speaker 6: but this is like, actually this is episode instead of
Speaker 6: our next person.
Speaker 2: It does remind me of how we think about the
Speaker 2: environment also in modern America, where it's always based around
Speaker 2: personal responsibility and like every when when people think about
Speaker 2: like being environmentally responsible and like they they think about littering,
Speaker 2: they think about like recycling. They think about these small
Speaker 2: like things.
Speaker 1: That having a dog, Ye, that was another one I saw, Well,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have a dog because they eat meat and
Speaker 1: therefore they're contributing to agric these.
Speaker 2: Like massive forces that like are out of our control,
Speaker 2: like they we should be like perpetrated by people who
Speaker 2: we should be naming hurricanes after. But instead of doing that,
Speaker 2: we're just like all, like we we fucked up. We
Speaker 2: like drove our kids to school today, and like that's
Speaker 2: what We're part of the problem.
Speaker 3: Because it's insult to injury.
Speaker 6: It's like you're forced into so much of this right,
Speaker 6: like people buy on Amazon because they can't afford time
Speaker 6: or money to go shopping in their local businesses, or
Speaker 6: their local business doesn't exist, Like it's it's a catch
Speaker 6: twenty two that affects the poor more often than they're rich.
Speaker 6: So to be environmentally like conscientious or or like make
Speaker 6: any changes, there is sort of a privilege that some
Speaker 6: people have some people don't. And I think that when
Speaker 6: we you know, like you're saying, like focus on this
Speaker 6: one aspect of it and not just king to it too, Yeah,
Speaker 6: then then you lose the conversation.
Speaker 3: And where where the you know, blame.
Speaker 1: Really lies, right, and these articles just do fuck all
Speaker 1: to like actually inform anyone too, because like one thing,
Speaker 1: it's like they they'll they'll kind of hint at wages
Speaker 1: being so depressed, and you're like, go on, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so on, now if you said no, it's causing all this,
Speaker 1: and you said it's the wages, okay, so let's let's
Speaker 1: start following the questions up the top. So okay, so
Speaker 1: who is setting the wages? Okay, and now how are
Speaker 1: those people, those companies fairing financially? Oh, doing really well?
Speaker 3: Pretty well?
Speaker 2: Yeah they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just such again. And so many of
Speaker 1: these articles are designed to kind of keep people not
Speaker 1: having I think you guys talk about this just sort
Speaker 1: of like the imagination to understand like what is what
Speaker 1: can be done differently and what should be done differently,
Speaker 1: rather than keep people in the same sort of like
Speaker 1: hamster wheel, Well you shouldn't have done this, And honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like not a fault that you can't get a
Speaker 1: high pig job and all there is.
Speaker 3: Is gig work out there and that's just the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 7: That's my favorite, like, well, why is it like this
Speaker 7: it's like you sound like a three year old, a
Speaker 7: five year old, but like it's like, well why, and
Speaker 7: there's no answer, Like it's not a natural law, Like
Speaker 7: this is a choice, you know, like these are choices
Speaker 7: that were made.
Speaker 6: Everything, every everything in our lives is stectated on the economy,
Speaker 6: and yet we're told that.
Speaker 1: Or it's not a human choice, or you're chastised and
Speaker 1: told you have too much of a utopian view of
Speaker 1: the future to think that this is what how it
Speaker 1: should be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have too much of a few of the future. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: the only answer that anybody has is, well, this is.
Speaker 2: This is the way it is. Yeah, so anyway, it's
Speaker 2: just natural that uh, the you know, wages that people
Speaker 2: earn will stay flat for decades. Well, but so that
Speaker 2: must mean then that the price of things that people
Speaker 2: have to pay for has stay flat too.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, now everything is so that's how.
Speaker 2: The company's earnings are going. Or having read a breaking profit,
Speaker 2: rh okay, that's what la is.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 1: I joke about this all the time with my partner,
Speaker 1: her majesty. She'll be like, guess how much this was?
Speaker 1: I go twenty bucks. It'll be like a juice, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, she's like, actually pretty close. I'm like yeah,
Speaker 1: because fucking everything, Like we're starting the conversation.
Speaker 2: At twenty dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can't just go get her sandwich. You
Speaker 3: can't leave the house on the open. Yeah, exactly, there's
Speaker 3: a person waiting outside my door in the hallway.
Speaker 1: And let me see why, Andrew Jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna tip them on your twenty dollars juice,
Speaker 2: Well you're the fucking problem. Then hold on.
Speaker 1: Don't you pay their wages yet? But I ain't paying
Speaker 1: them that much. I got to come in with the tips.
Speaker 3: Come on now, exactly, run a business, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about some news. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: We're just talking Frondia talking space bags, talking Frondia space
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 1: I used to call it, hitting a volcano. Vaporizer courage.
Speaker 2: You would put the box one just in a box.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have that space bag in there, you know,
Speaker 2: what do you mean a saggy ass box?
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about I don't think you kind of recycle
Speaker 3: the space bag.
Speaker 2: Now, just that's all that's going to be left.
Speaker 1: They were an interesting people. They worship these spacebags.
Speaker 2: All right, finally some good news. D C is actually
Speaker 2: safe now.
Speaker 1: It has been declared, even though we are fully into
Speaker 1: the second week of the FEDS just absolutely taking over
Speaker 1: the capitol.
Speaker 2: Not like even a full week. We're in the second week,
Speaker 2: but like it hasn't been a full week since he declared, right,
Speaker 2: like that was happening at the beginning of last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're like entering.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, but this is what this is just
Speaker 2: record breaking time that I've got. I've got to say.
Speaker 1: Look and so yeah, dude, you know, so I guess
Speaker 1: you know, once big balls got jumped by some kids
Speaker 1: and what was the saddest version of like what people
Speaker 1: are calling the Reichstag fire. Trump declared all out fed
Speaker 1: war on DC, and we've just seen countless clips and
Speaker 1: images of you know, just masked goons looking bored as
Speaker 1: hell on the streets of DC likes to be with
Speaker 1: their slouched posture and like stupid punisher masks, and people
Speaker 1: are like, dude, get the fuck out of my way.
Speaker 1: First of all, I've been reading something there's it's fucking
Speaker 1: up local businesses in DC because people are like, bro,
Speaker 1: no one's coming to bars or restaurants because you have
Speaker 1: fucking goons everywhere and the vibes are completely fucked up
Speaker 1: because it's a quote unquote war zone.
Speaker 2: But no matter, you don't like safety, come on like that.
Speaker 2: This is not safe, bro, Trump from Jaws, You're like,
Speaker 2: get out there, come on, guys, it's fun.
Speaker 1: The water's something. Although I did see a clip of
Speaker 1: some a bunch of goofed up loser mask cops try
Speaker 1: to violently arrest a guy and one of the goons
Speaker 1: thought he was like Ken Shamrock and the ww F
Speaker 1: or some shit and smashed his own head trying to
Speaker 1: suplex the guy like he was like wrestling and like
Speaker 1: fell back, and then the cops just hit his own head,
Speaker 1: and then all the other cops.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, are you okay? And he's like no, he's
Speaker 2: like the dumbest ship.
Speaker 1: And then they're fuckingolently arresting some innocent, fucking resident. But again,
Speaker 1: it's nonsense. Anyway, mister Donald has solved it. He declared
Speaker 1: victory on Kirkland signature Twitter. He said, quote DC gave
Speaker 1: fake crime numbers in order to create a fellos illusion
Speaker 1: of safety. This is a very bad and dangerous thing
Speaker 1: to do, and they're under serious investigation for doing so.
Speaker 1: Until four days ago, Washing DC, Washington, d C was
Speaker 1: the most unsafe quote city. I don't know what the.
Speaker 2: City he loves.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love a quote.
Speaker 1: Unsafe city in the United States and perhaps the world.
Speaker 1: Now in just a short period of time, it is
Speaker 1: perhaps the safest uh and getting better every single hour.
Speaker 1: People are flocking to d C again, and soon the
Speaker 1: beautification will begin. So anyway, I wish that he.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the president because he's such a funny, stupid bitch.
Speaker 2: That is that is like most mortage speed that he's bred.
Speaker 2: That he's claiming this happened like.
Speaker 3: Four days wasn't the most content to stand up.
Speaker 2: And now people are literally flocking fling.
Speaker 7: I also just want to say one thing, like I
Speaker 7: feel like kirkland signature is too nice of a turn
Speaker 7: at kirk.
Speaker 3: We're costco heads.
Speaker 1: In this true value I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to malign any of the storm because they
Speaker 1: give us an affordable alternative. But like anyway, the other
Speaker 1: lever that Trump does like to pull as a distraction
Speaker 1: aside from anti black racism, is crime wave the crime
Speaker 1: wave lever, because that is one of the few things
Speaker 1: that still people have crime in this like nebulous part
Speaker 1: of their brain where even though they have first hand
Speaker 1: experience with crime rates, dropping pundits on TV can just
Speaker 1: be like crime wave, like a common Michael Scott and
Speaker 1: it's somehow there lived experience and like, yeah, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's a crime wave right now. It's so unsafe. I've
Speaker 1: never seen crime where I live at all, but.
Speaker 3: Everything else, but it's there, it's out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I heard about this one guy who yeah big,
Speaker 2: he got swept up in a crime wave. Guys, there's
Speaker 2: a fucking drug fire. There's a drug fire. He's walking
Speaker 2: his baby drug fire after the mass shooting.
Speaker 3: And the crime wave actually put it out because it
Speaker 3: was like a wave.
Speaker 1: First of all, my baby was trying to surf the
Speaker 1: crime wave onto a drug fire and he bailed so
Speaker 1: hard into a mass shooting. One more time for everyone
Speaker 1: on the back.
Speaker 4: My infant nearly died in a drunk fire after mass shootings.
Speaker 2: Uh huh uh huh okay, merely died.
Speaker 3: He nearly died.
Speaker 2: In a drug fire.
Speaker 1: I would love if he didn't even have a kid that,
Speaker 1: like Benny Johnson has no children. He's just straight up
Speaker 1: fucking lying to you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would like that better. I think that
Speaker 3: he realized he sounds like funnier.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It is boom times for white collar crime, though.
Speaker 2: But I will say this has been true since back
Speaker 2: in uh May, but now now it's getting even I
Speaker 2: mean it's been true since forever that white color crime
Speaker 2: private equity anyone as defined as crime committed by wealthy
Speaker 2: financial institutions. But you know, white collar crime of all sorts.
Speaker 2: It's just like all the investigations, all the really bad
Speaker 2: ones that the FBI was like looking into, have been
Speaker 2: replaced with, you know, going out and like sending a
Speaker 2: bunch of fucking bureaucrats out to just like mill about
Speaker 2: and be like glorified beat cups. They've been apparently reassigning
Speaker 2: white collar crime task forces to like do immigration enforcement now,
Speaker 2: which they're not pleased with as people who were got
Speaker 2: into the job of investigating white color crime. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's I'm sure it's working and doing doing
Speaker 2: wonders for the safety people are flocking.
Speaker 3: I hear people are flocking to white collar crimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 1: It's harder than TikTok.
Speaker 7: The only thing you have to make sure you don't
Speaker 7: do it when you do a white color crime is
Speaker 7: then become a reality television star, because you can do
Speaker 7: one or the other, but you can't do both if
Speaker 7: you don't.
Speaker 1: Look who got out though, Look who got out though?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, they got out.
Speaker 6: When the white color criminal who was also a reality
Speaker 6: stars in the white house. They think it's okay, it's
Speaker 6: any other Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: I mean more like the Real Housewives, like they can't
Speaker 3: do those.
Speaker 1: Or Todd Christ you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, right, I forgot about it and.
Speaker 1: They got out because again the rules are, if you're
Speaker 1: white and do white collar crime, then you have a
Speaker 1: shot at getting a pardon.
Speaker 3: Isn't that what the white and white color crimes I
Speaker 3: feel it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, white color crime. Oh my god. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 2: that I mean, it is truly the crime that is
Speaker 2: causing that. You know, it's causing a lot of the
Speaker 2: problems that we're talking about, right, and of course it
Speaker 2: is the one that is must be avoided and ignored.
Speaker 1: What's what's like been a perpetrator in terms of as
Speaker 1: you guys try to find out who murdered your bank accounts,
Speaker 1: what's a name name, what's a suspect that you've identified?
Speaker 3: No, I think Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 6: I think that that's a you can really a lot
Speaker 6: comes back to that, but it goes you know, I
Speaker 6: think it starts at the beginning of this American experience,
Speaker 6: which is that it's all entirely based around an economy
Speaker 6: that is not really designed to make everybody happy and free.
Speaker 6: But specifically, when we're talking about millennials and we're talking
Speaker 6: about the last one hundred years, we are talking about
Speaker 6: what we spoke of before, which is, like, the difference
Speaker 6: is that millennials are experiencing based on policy decisions I
Speaker 6: started in the eighties. But you know, this goes back
Speaker 6: to like things that were were built up around the
Speaker 6: First World Wars, which is like, we need to buy
Speaker 6: stuff to make this economy work, and everybody is in
Speaker 6: the business of buying or selling stuff for us to buyer.
Speaker 6: So right, yeah, and I think and and like, so
Speaker 6: everything is pushing us into that and simultaneously making it
Speaker 6: impossible for us to make a living at it because
Speaker 6: like all the things we said before, people aren't really
Speaker 6: running small businesses anymore. So it's just like, I mean,
Speaker 6: I think really what we're what we're looking at is
Speaker 6: just how how do we imagine a different way of
Speaker 6: living around outside of this economy that we've been brought
Speaker 6: up to believe is like truly and the only option.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and also just not getting the information that like
Speaker 7: we've learned so much about just like the we were,
Speaker 7: We've been shocked by so many things that we've learned
Speaker 7: in researching this podcast, Like we interviewed this woman, Elena Botea,
Speaker 7: who worked at Capital One for years and then she
Speaker 7: became a journalist, and she said something Rachel Hurd on
Speaker 7: a zoom that was like, there was no household consumer
Speaker 7: debt consumer debt before before in nineteen eighty three, and
Speaker 7: we were like credit cards and the banks are obviously.
Speaker 2: How did that be?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Like you just imagine that this is something that always
Speaker 3: existed in in reality, it's not. It's not that old.
Speaker 3: It's it's our age. And so if it's our age,
Speaker 3: why does it have to be like the rule of
Speaker 3: the of the land. Why can't you like think of something.
Speaker 2: Else that's like because we're eating too much goddamn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And not buying wedding rings.
Speaker 2: When was avocado toast invented? I'm just saying nine four,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, twenty four. Yeah, I do. Like they're
Speaker 2: mad at us for eating avocado toast, but also mad
Speaker 2: at us for not buying diamond wedding rings, which are
Speaker 2: way more expensive and financially responsible.
Speaker 7: Decisions weddings, Like they're bad about it. Everything about like
Speaker 7: the modern wedding experience that we're told is like the
Speaker 7: thing that we're supposed to do. I mean, it is
Speaker 7: one of the reasons why I got into debt when
Speaker 7: I looked back on it, because I went to so
Speaker 7: many bachelotte parties, I bought so many bridesmaids dresses, I
Speaker 7: bought so many gifts for people to go to their weddings,
Speaker 7: and like that is something I was led to believe
Speaker 7: was what I needed to do in order to stay
Speaker 7: in the group socially, right, But in reality is just
Speaker 7: like draining my all of my bank account.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, like the.
Speaker 6: People who are making money are doing it investing in debt, right,
Speaker 6: investing in pretend money. But that doesn't that doesn't transfer
Speaker 6: down to those of us who are actually being like
Speaker 6: you're saying, lended in a predatory manner, and then it
Speaker 6: becomes something that you can never get out of. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 6: but debt is like just one piece of the bigger picture,
Speaker 6: which I think is that just like we are watching
Speaker 6: the transfer of wealth from the middle class to whatever
Speaker 6: is left in the middle class, middle middle and lower
Speaker 6: class working class to you know a few people basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Claudia Scheinbaum, the you know, president of Mexico,
Speaker 2: talks about she just openly says, like neoliberalism is a
Speaker 2: mechanism for redistributing wealth from the middle class upward. Like
Speaker 2: that's that's all it is, and just like that's an
Speaker 2: openly agreed to like definition of it in other countries.
Speaker 1: But down there, but here in California, that's the way
Speaker 1: we do business. That's the way we do it.
Speaker 3: You got to get that twenty dollars air Airs movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did want to talk about this just a
Speaker 2: little bit about me. Anytime I read a New York
Speaker 2: or article, I have to talk about it on the
Speaker 2: podcast because I'm so proud about it. But I do
Speaker 2: think that that's.
Speaker 1: Every week.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think it ties into the conversation we're having
Speaker 2: because there's a new article about the ultra wealthyes trend
Speaker 2: of trying to live forever, and like just like oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure everything, and it's that just mostly boomer age people
Speaker 2: like that. They they talk to this one woman who
Speaker 2: works in the industry and she's like, no, no, the
Speaker 2: industry live forever, the longevity industry. They interview one woman
Speaker 2: who like works in the longevity industry of like, you know,
Speaker 2: just these people are like tested every week, like they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: inhale into this bag, give us your poop, Like we
Speaker 2: need to like make sure that you are just like
Speaker 2: perfectly monitored. And she was saying that these are all
Speaker 2: people who spent their health getting rich, so like for
Speaker 2: the first half of their life they were just like
Speaker 2: working around the clock trying to get rich, and now
Speaker 2: they're rich, and they're trying to like get their health
Speaker 2: back through these means because they're like scared of death
Speaker 2: and they don't want to admit that they fucked up.
Speaker 2: But what all right, So two of the details that
Speaker 2: jumped out to me. One is the richest people already
Speaker 2: lived twelve years longer than the poorest in this country
Speaker 2: like that, just in addition to being proof that our
Speaker 2: world is a disaster, that capitalism's already broken. Like it's
Speaker 2: just wild that these people who are driving this entire
Speaker 2: industry are already like maxed out, which is what they
Speaker 2: find Like afterwards, there's just like, yeah, it turns out
Speaker 2: like all these things that people are doing can help
Speaker 2: somebody if they were not already doing these things, but
Speaker 2: they already so like it doesn't help them. It's just
Speaker 2: this like soulless end of life, denial of death, like
Speaker 2: addiction to the idea of like self and like perpetuating
Speaker 2: yourself is essentially like a religion. It's like what these
Speaker 2: people have instead of religion at this point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it kind of boils down like what the
Speaker 7: problem is just generally right, it's like I'm so afraid,
Speaker 7: like you can't take your money with you, right, and
Speaker 7: you're like so afraid.
Speaker 2: Of like with me, I'm never gonna die exactly.
Speaker 6: So if I don't die, then I you know, I
Speaker 6: never have to worry about it, and then I don't
Speaker 6: have to question like what the fuck was all of
Speaker 6: this for?
Speaker 3: And what was I doing with like hoarding my wealth
Speaker 3: to make sure that like I'm healthy.
Speaker 7: Like again, it like goes back to not giving a
Speaker 7: shit about the collective and being like I need to
Speaker 7: make sure that like I'm okay, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It crystallizes the irony we've been talking about, which is
Speaker 6: that like everybody's dollar is made on burning this planet
Speaker 6: up more and more and more, and so what's worse
Speaker 6: than the lack of survival of planet Earth?
Speaker 3: Like the most miraculous thing we've ever like conceived of this.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just going to build a bomb shelter.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like, don't look up. It's like exactly, like don't look.
Speaker 2: At you know. Did you guys see Mountainhead the movie
Speaker 2: by the guy who we have, yeah, the succession guy.
Speaker 2: It's it's worth while. Steve Carrell's character is the is
Speaker 2: just exactly this guy, like he knows he finds out
Speaker 2: that he has a like terminal diagnosis, and he keeps
Speaker 2: just being like, wow, you're not very smart, are you?
Speaker 2: To his doctors, like just being like I am I
Speaker 2: have a genius level IQ actually, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: beat this thing.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, of course that's how you do it.
Speaker 2: It is kind of funny that they the two things
Speaker 2: that everybody says are like inevitabilities of the human condition
Speaker 2: are and taxes and like that's all these people spend
Speaker 2: their entire lives just trying to avoid Yeah, theseus kids
Speaker 2: or like yeah, right, will show you.
Speaker 3: My life's purpose is to prove this wrong and in
Speaker 3: the meantime lose it all.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the one good idea, I will say this is
Speaker 2: a little investment tip. One of the technologies they're looking
Speaker 2: at that I guarantee these like very rich people are
Speaker 2: going to spend a lot of money on is a
Speaker 2: smart toilet that basically like reads your ship for like
Speaker 2: signs of disease, and like they're like really investing hard
Speaker 2: in this, and I feel like I feel like that
Speaker 2: is inevitably that that's the next Aura ring, Which is funny.
Speaker 1: Because that would help just like if everyone had access
Speaker 1: to that, if everyone had But no, it's going to
Speaker 1: be like this thing they parade around Silicon Valley and
Speaker 1: it's probably going to start off as like some dude
Speaker 1: underneath the house like just running like fucking tests on it.
Speaker 1: The technology isn't there yet a mechanical turd, if you.
Speaker 2: Will, sure.
Speaker 7: Like printers in the in the nineties, Like they're gonna
Speaker 7: be just like a bajillion dollars and then one day Monday.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, but again it's the same thing.
Speaker 6: Like it to your point, if everybody had access to
Speaker 6: these things, yeah, that would be fabulous. Yeah, make them
Speaker 6: to privatize them, make them an entity that you need
Speaker 6: to spend like, you know, bajillion dollars on.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, like flying cars are a thing. They're
Speaker 2: just a thing for like the ultra ultra wealthy. You know,
Speaker 2: essentially it's just like helicopters and private private jets. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you know we like all the sci fi
Speaker 2: shit from the future exists, like it just exists for
Speaker 2: only the ultra wealthy. Yeah, yeah, like living well, which
Speaker 2: I think is pretty cool. Yeah, exactly, eternally eternal.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean I think for us,
Speaker 1: that's like should be a motivator to get our ship
Speaker 1: together so we can be one of these people.
Speaker 2: And also on your grind set.
Speaker 1: When someone starts talking about progressive tax systems, like I'll
Speaker 1: hold the fuck up because when I'm one of these billies, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with that, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: protect my investment Yeah.
Speaker 7: We're just gonna keep walking around eating dumplings from Chinatown
Speaker 7: and helping for the best.
Speaker 3: That's our pink.
Speaker 2: I think that sounds like a good plan. Sound also
Speaker 2: like I have invested a lot of time and looking
Speaker 2: walking around looking for a bag of money. So if
Speaker 2: anybody always like it for that or like loose drugs
Speaker 2: that fell off a.
Speaker 3: Truck, that sounds like, yeah, in a fire, in a fire.
Speaker 1: After a mass after after a mass to trial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jamie and Rachel, such a pleasure having you both.
Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: You can currently find us on Apple Podcasts the Best
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd like to get sure tied up. Yeah, honestly, are.
Speaker 3: Yeah trying to get rid of We're trying to lose
Speaker 3: this so far by the end of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see.
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we both just saw the movie. Sorry, baby, have
Speaker 3: you heard of this one?
Speaker 2: I've heard of it. I really want to see it.
Speaker 6: Really good, really really really excellent Triple Threat Eva Victor
Speaker 6: writer director, she's the writer director, starf star. Never heard
Speaker 6: of her before. It was so lovely, Yeah, very sweet,
Speaker 6: so sweet movie lovely.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, sounds awesome. Miles Where can people find you
Speaker 2: their work in media?
Speaker 1: You've been Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: I'm still talking about ninety Day Fiance on four to
Speaker 1: twenty Day Fiance. Let's see a couple. There's a Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a work of media like let me Summon It
Speaker 1: really quick on Blue Sky it's from Ben Collins tim
Speaker 1: Onion as he's known on Blue Sky US because like
Speaker 1: MSNBC is changing to ms now, because like NBC is
Speaker 1: spinning it off. I'm sure we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people talking about the spin
Speaker 1: off of MSNBC, so he said quote they should have
Speaker 1: rebranded it to MSNBA. Chris Hayes should have hooped. He's
Speaker 1: tall as hell. New Morning Show of Rachel Maddow and
Speaker 1: the Professor from the and One Street Tour. Most programming
Speaker 1: is now about low post footwork and the second apron
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's good. And then another
Speaker 1: one at John Taylor dot bs dot social posted a
Speaker 1: picture of Alec Baldwin as Jack Donnegie from thirty Rock
Speaker 1: and it says, it's not an MSNBC anymore, Lemon, it's
Speaker 1: ms NOW. We bought the name off of defunct multiple
Speaker 1: sclerosis awareness organization. It wasn't cheap, but we were able
Speaker 1: to save money, save some money by sending Brian Williams
Speaker 1: to a Saudi prince who wanted to expand his harem Uh, fantastic,
Speaker 1: fantastic writing ms NOW.
Speaker 6: That's like something else in my Google searches that it
Speaker 6: tells you about me because I'm so health looking.
Speaker 8: I have health multiples for us. Sometimes don't use the
Speaker 8: internet to diagnose yourself. But that's the arrow in what
Speaker 8: are we just do a doctor? Yes, all right, okay,
Speaker 8: stopped going to the doctor for some reason.
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna use chat GPT. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tweet I've been enjoying. Alib tweeted, I hate that
Speaker 2: amcad where that couple has a dance battle, then races
Speaker 2: then almost kisses. I hate It's just I do too.
Speaker 2: I was like I had to, I had blocked it
Speaker 2: out of my brain. But that is a bummer. I
Speaker 2: also saw the New Naked Gun. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: That was great fun in the theater, in the theater, yes,
Speaker 3: full circle.
Speaker 2: We did it. We did it.
Speaker 1: I was facetiming you from the theater and you watched
Speaker 1: on FaceTime.
Speaker 2: But you did you buy a ticket?
Speaker 1: Nope? I again after I saw yeah, just saw some
Speaker 1: other ship.
Speaker 2: But the people who were there with you enjoying your
Speaker 2: laughter like that.
Speaker 1: I mean there, I'm like, oh, Jack, can you see
Speaker 1: can you see?
Speaker 2: Hey? My man? Sit down?
Speaker 1: Sit down.
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