Speaker 1: What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone. That's the problem, Like when you have
Speaker 1: a podcast and ship and you have a conversation before
Speaker 1: you flush out really good ideas, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for, Like, you could have talked about this shit
Speaker 1: on the fucking podcast.
Speaker 2: It's like, shit we do in our thread, yeah, having
Speaker 2: long ass conversations and we're.
Speaker 1: Like, why we didn't talk about this on the podcast, Like,
Speaker 1: and then you get in front of the podcast and
Speaker 1: you don't got nothing to talk about? That shit is
Speaker 1: the worst. That's fucked up. Damn hold up, I got
Speaker 1: to use the background girl? What is that? What's up
Speaker 1: with pause? Let's start with that? What is pause?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is that? Fucking are you trying to be young?
Speaker 4: No? No, I'm young.
Speaker 3: First of all, was made by some old ass motherfuckers
Speaker 3: that are older than us and Dame Dash and camera on.
Speaker 3: What it is is for East Coast sympathizers like myself
Speaker 3: who mimic New York slang. I'm glad you know that
Speaker 3: it's okay. I can't accept that that's okay. But it's funny.
Speaker 3: I don't care it's funny. But you know what though,
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that we be talking about
Speaker 3: sometimes it's like everything's kind of like blurred lines now,
Speaker 3: Like I know that, so I do it because it's funny.
Speaker 3: Pause to me is funny because obviously they use it
Speaker 3: as like no homo. That's how they used to use it, right.
Speaker 3: But you can't say no home anymore because it's it's
Speaker 3: not politically correct. You can say what you want to say,
Speaker 3: you can say what you want, but I'm saying you
Speaker 3: could you know you're gonna get some back life.
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of cancel culture.
Speaker 3: Nah. No. So pause is basically like you said, pull
Speaker 3: the mic clothes like yo, pause, Yo, what you're talking
Speaker 3: about pulling mic closer? Relax or just you could have
Speaker 3: just what you could have just said you need you need.
Speaker 1: You said what you call your digging mic.
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: It's just that what you tell your girl talking to
Speaker 1: the mic. That is that the new way to say.
Speaker 1: Give me some man talking to the micro.
Speaker 3: And I've heard tell another man, hey man, grab grabbed
Speaker 3: the mic and pull it closer, to grab the mic
Speaker 3: and pull it closer to you.
Speaker 1: You just don't know how the sexual indue windows came from. Hey,
Speaker 1: grab the microphone and pull it closer. Pause, pause, You
Speaker 1: don't know how the sexual inn windows came to that. See,
Speaker 1: it comes to a certain place where that ship just
Speaker 1: get out of hand. And this is why I feel
Speaker 1: like people on the West should not listen to too
Speaker 1: much East Coast hip hop because you'll have some ship
Speaker 1: that don't apply. It does apply, though, pulling the microphone closer.
Speaker 3: To you not the act of a man telling another.
Speaker 1: Man to pull the microphone closer to your mouth, Like.
Speaker 3: Hey, bro, I need to hear a little bit louder
Speaker 3: on the mic. You could just say it like that.
Speaker 3: See how more manly that?
Speaker 5: No that I don't understand why that had to be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pause. That's Cam run and Mace.
Speaker 4: I don't care what you say.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem again, because you don't needies either.
Speaker 1: That being that Cam like I think Cam would say
Speaker 1: you're taking this out of context.
Speaker 3: Cam, No, because they tell Cam he's taking it out
Speaker 3: of context.
Speaker 1: No, no, No, People on the East Coast understand the context
Speaker 1: because maybe they would tell somebody to speak into the
Speaker 1: mic like that's giving head or getting head or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we me and you we've known
Speaker 1: each other twenty years, because twenty years and I've never
Speaker 1: told you, Yeah, that girl was blowing into my mic.
Speaker 3: No, you've never done that.
Speaker 1: No, so you've never told me too. I had that
Speaker 1: bitch speaking into the mic last night. I've never heard that,
Speaker 1: So I don't understand the sexual innuindow you feel me
Speaker 1: of Hey, pull the mic the microphone closer to your mouth.
Speaker 3: That just doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1: It actually sounds perfect.
Speaker 3: You can just hey, speak loud.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like we're in the studio and you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: like that was just And that's why you can't adopt
Speaker 1: East Coast culture. Son, This is what's wrong. I've thought
Speaker 1: about this. Hey done, yo, son, Yo done? That's word.
Speaker 3: God, I do done talk so done.
Speaker 1: And see that's the problem, you know what. And honestly,
Speaker 1: since since we've always talked about this, that's always been
Speaker 1: my point, Like you're going to mishandle it and it's
Speaker 1: going to come across. Forgive me for using the time
Speaker 1: warning corny, because you're going to mishandle it.
Speaker 2: But this is a conversation wearing a buffy coat at
Speaker 2: Cintamonica peer in the summer night.
Speaker 3: I never did on the summer night. Definitely did it
Speaker 3: in the winter.
Speaker 1: Was it like seventy one? It's risk.
Speaker 3: Sixty thirty sixty four And I used to have the
Speaker 3: bubble jacket without the sleeves, likell, what the fuck it?
Speaker 3: I really did. I'm being honest. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 3: But this is what I'd be trying to tell you,
Speaker 3: though you think I'm joking, Bro, there is a demographic
Speaker 3: of Mexicans on the West coast, Bro, that didn't know
Speaker 3: how to relate to being westcast, Like how we talked
Speaker 3: about like if in theory now it would be like
Speaker 3: sack of Dom Kennedy, right, like West La Okay, I
Speaker 3: grew up in Englewood, but I'm over here, you know,
Speaker 3: in Santa Monica.
Speaker 1: Right, there's a way to talk. But we had we
Speaker 1: had a mod. We had we had a mod.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a mad even a MOD in them wasn't
Speaker 3: like that was more to us. That sounded more like
Speaker 3: J five, that was like more East coast.
Speaker 1: Why did a mod sound like East coast?
Speaker 3: Because he did it didn't sound West Coast, not to
Speaker 3: the traditional idea of what we were thinking was West Coast,
Speaker 3: which was at that time, like yeah, kangster rap, sound
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: But West Coast hip hop has always been more than
Speaker 1: gangster rep.
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you when you didn't know what as
Speaker 3: a Mexican hip hops, what I'm telling you, when you
Speaker 3: didn't know what direction to go in. That's why a
Speaker 3: lot of us more so kind of like drifted into
Speaker 3: into the East Coast. What about sound?
Speaker 4: What about Look?
Speaker 1: What about farce? Why what about farcide?
Speaker 3: That was also that's that's like hieroglyphics and like Dell
Speaker 3: the funky Homo Sapien, like all that sound was kind
Speaker 3: of like East Coast, even though it was West Coast.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand that, but I'm saying we've
Speaker 1: always on the west right T and Spade, like Toddy
Speaker 1: t and Spade since you know, the mid eighties. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about being a gang member. Like that's the thing, like,
Speaker 1: and this is why I've always like disputed y'all. It's
Speaker 1: like NWA is not about being gang members.
Speaker 3: But there was a Look at what I'm saying, So
Speaker 3: if you didn't want to. So one thing about La
Speaker 3: g and we've talked about this. When you it can
Speaker 3: be anyone. But if you look a specific way, you
Speaker 3: open yourself up to get pressed for sure, hands down, No, yes,
Speaker 3: you do. If you back then, if you was wearing
Speaker 3: if you looked or dressed like food, like the Mexicans
Speaker 3: and colors, or like.
Speaker 1: Uh, if you look at the streets.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you look like the streets of La right,
Speaker 3: like Caine and and Old Dog.
Speaker 1: Caine and Old Dog didn't really wear nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean it was white teas Levi's and that's my point.
Speaker 3: I'm not but not everyone did. And if you did
Speaker 3: wear it, and you was in the in the neighborhoods
Speaker 3: that we were in, you were liable to somebody be like, hey, Holmie,
Speaker 3: where are you from. So if you didn't want to
Speaker 3: deal with that, you'd be like, yo, son, what's up?
Speaker 4: Sun?
Speaker 1: Defense?
Speaker 3: Defense, the defense mechanism. So you you're like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: I wrap like the East Coast guys because I don't
Speaker 3: want to sound like you gang bangers.
Speaker 1: So that okay.
Speaker 3: So I'm taking you back to very early trans that's
Speaker 3: we're talking about ninety three ninety four.
Speaker 1: So so this is no siblings. I got a headache already.
Speaker 1: Glasses Malone. My homeboy brought his homeboy.
Speaker 3: Jazz are the jugging that I say, what's up going on?
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brother Alcatraz Tony Nadio. So it's
Speaker 1: fantastic MC and a hip hop history in his own riot.
Speaker 1: He's been on the podcast before. But Trass is a
Speaker 1: Mexican hip hop artist. Jazz is mixed s Guatemalan, I
Speaker 1: mean for the most part, but he grew up in Southgate.
Speaker 1: Trash grew up in eigglehood, and I think that's the cornerstone.
Speaker 1: Well that's not even important, right because culturally, because culturally
Speaker 1: how you was raised is more important than how white
Speaker 1: people treat you. Yeah, I was raised hispanic got you
Speaker 1: or don't mean that he ain't no nigga. Everybody that
Speaker 1: don't know gonna treat him like a nigga for sure
Speaker 1: because he is mixed with black. But culturally he grew
Speaker 1: up in Southgate, So I know what time it is.
Speaker 1: I learned. I learned more like junior high high school.
Speaker 1: That's because I was Because you're gonna start You're gonna
Speaker 1: start meeting other Mexican people. Gonna start got out of Southgate.
Speaker 2: My mom put me from because I was in elementary
Speaker 2: and Southgate and then I got expelled and then she
Speaker 2: she was she working at Sony. Where'd you get expelled
Speaker 2: from from a fucking private school, Redeemer Long Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 2: So then my mom took me to uh to Culver City.
Speaker 2: And that's what was discussing the day he was talking
Speaker 2: about coverd City wasn't racially diverse, that motherfucker every Culver.
Speaker 1: City because Culver City has a really underrated poor part
Speaker 1: that nobody talks about.
Speaker 3: The projects.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call those projects project project. I know they're
Speaker 1: housing projects, but I just wouldn't reference because it's in
Speaker 1: Culver City, right But it very much is some bushes.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it ain't bullshit. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: when you go to Culver City, like in that poor,
Speaker 1: like that small, because they do have a ghetto right there.
Speaker 1: I have no idea why it's this little fucking ghetto
Speaker 1: right in the smack dead center of fucking Culver City,
Speaker 1: cause that shit's crazy. But this is something that's it
Speaker 1: was just on my mind. But did growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: because your skin is darker? Did did did any Mexicans
Speaker 1: treat you like a nigga.
Speaker 3: At that time?
Speaker 2: And it's crazy my whole life. So my moms, even
Speaker 2: though you grow up just believing whatever your.
Speaker 1: Sure, they raised you.
Speaker 2: The moms told me that my father was of a
Speaker 2: different race growing up, sure, but it never computed.
Speaker 1: Like why is my skin color this dark?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there are some.
Speaker 2: So you guys earn them around black folk. They embraced
Speaker 2: me so much and I'd be young, always wondering, like
Speaker 2: and I remember one time I was somewhere in somebody
Speaker 2: was playing and somebody says something like about nigga, my nigga,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm not black, and the mom
Speaker 2: was like, son, he was a nigga.
Speaker 1: And I was like what.
Speaker 5: And I went home and I told my mom like
Speaker 5: this lady said I was a nigga.
Speaker 1: And she was all mad. She was like, who was
Speaker 1: it was a white lady.
Speaker 5: I said no, she was a black lady.
Speaker 2: Oh, And my mom gave me a look like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be deep.
Speaker 5: But yeah, your question you always like in Southgate.
Speaker 1: Because I know Southgate is for sure one of them
Speaker 1: plays that's like.
Speaker 3: The Homie Horn that we have. He's Mexican and black
Speaker 3: and his mom is Mexican.
Speaker 1: He you know, it's different. I was always the black
Speaker 1: g I Joe. You always had to be the black
Speaker 1: power rolls.
Speaker 2: Always the black whatever ever, like we got our own now,
Speaker 2: I would always be that guy.
Speaker 1: It's different for him because so wine like Jay grew
Speaker 1: up ju So shout out to the boy ju Wan Williams.
Speaker 1: His nigga name is Wan Williams. That's like the most
Speaker 1: Mexican and black shit ever. But it's funny because like
Speaker 1: he grew up in Southgate. So even as a person
Speaker 1: of what's the correct words Spanish speaking people descent over
Speaker 1: here on this side of the motherfucking globe, and to
Speaker 1: be he grew up in Southgate and South Grade is
Speaker 1: like a real Mexican type of place.
Speaker 4: He did, no, he did?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Jay, you grew up in West Long Beach, right,
Speaker 1: and West Loan Beach is like a for real black
Speaker 1: experience as far as poor people go. So where you
Speaker 1: raised that is different because he right, like in Southgate,
Speaker 1: they probably might treat him like a nigga, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But where Jay is at, they gonna
Speaker 1: make sure the Mexico treat your ass like a nigga too.
Speaker 3: And by him being over there is why his whole
Speaker 3: style has also been East Coast too, I guarantee you
Speaker 3: that's part of it.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't my style being East Coast actually came
Speaker 2: from me always being interested in the hip hop culture. Right.
Speaker 2: My first concert was I told you it was nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine and it was Beastie Boys and run DMC.
Speaker 2: But I was growing up like my mom's friends in
Speaker 2: the disco times and all that shit. All her friends'
Speaker 2: kids was DJs and breakdancers. Yeah, so I grew up
Speaker 2: watching them. They was in the hip hop. I started
Speaker 2: getting into the music then rap, and that's how they
Speaker 2: Then I started getting to the was discussing earlier the
Speaker 2: Wu Tang, and I got that ship on my leg,
Speaker 2: the Wu Tang.
Speaker 5: But that's where that's where my music at that.
Speaker 1: Point was was listening to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the nwas and all that wasn't was because
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up that way either.
Speaker 3: That's my point.
Speaker 4: He just was my point.
Speaker 1: But both of y'all are really not making a point.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 4: We might not be making the right point.
Speaker 1: No, no, but that's not even making a point at all. Right,
Speaker 1: you can make a point, right, but I'm saying the
Speaker 1: reality is, if you're from here and you're our age, nigga,
Speaker 1: you grew up on death row. Period. It don't matter
Speaker 1: what you chose. I did grow up on it. Like
Speaker 1: you don't have a choice, like none of us had
Speaker 1: a choice.
Speaker 4: But death row was a small part.
Speaker 3: No, death row was a small part that came and
Speaker 3: took over after already being flooded with.
Speaker 1: Wan there was death row.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Guess you got that wrong. So you were purposely avoiding
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 3: No, I think I think they were. They was all
Speaker 3: being played at the same time.
Speaker 1: They were. It wasn't even yes, they were.
Speaker 4: Chambers came out and what.
Speaker 1: Exactly you are from Inglewood? Trust? For sure they were
Speaker 1: playing the Chronic everywhere.
Speaker 4: I remember that you don't have you don't.
Speaker 1: Have to remember it. It literally shaped your existence. So
Speaker 1: as much as you don't understand in this your desire
Speaker 1: right to choose outside of it is kind of the choice.
Speaker 1: It's not a reality for you because we all grew
Speaker 1: up shaped by excuse me, the uh the Chronic is
Speaker 1: ninety two, So that was before Doggie Style is ninety three.
Speaker 1: So wasn't no Illmatic, wasn't no fucking Wu Tang like
Speaker 1: you might have if you were lucky one or two
Speaker 1: people around you might have played Wu Tang or illmatic
Speaker 1: in real life. I don't give a fuck which part
Speaker 1: of the motherfucking West you was at. There was nothing
Speaker 1: else going to happen outside of the chronic Doggie style
Speaker 1: murder was the case dog fool at Cuver City, though.
Speaker 1: Who I was hanging with.
Speaker 2: Was just gonna be quote unquote backpackers, So they was
Speaker 2: all on the east.
Speaker 3: Coast, right, and that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was the West side.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not even west A listen to. It's
Speaker 1: not like I.
Speaker 2: Was going to school when Big Boy was there from
Speaker 2: Barbweo six so he was DJing with Ray at them
Speaker 2: times as a student in the school. No, but he
Speaker 2: was influencing our music a lot because he did all
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, but I get what he's said. He's right,
Speaker 3: like all of you pockets, Yeah yeah, yeah, No, no, no,
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you if you like Wu Tang, forgive me. If
Speaker 1: you like Wu Tang or nas Eomatic at that time,
Speaker 1: those were pockets inside of our real world, Like that
Speaker 1: was like a kind of a dream outside. Like you
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, Yeah, you went into the bubble
Speaker 1: to me, even on the East Coast, like in real life,
Speaker 1: like the East Coast, it probably played way more. But
Speaker 1: these you gotta think like in real life, bro, Like
Speaker 1: people talk about Ellmatic in real time, like it was
Speaker 1: bigger than the Wu Tang album, And it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't. That's not to say it wasn't more critically
Speaker 1: acclaimed and people celebrated. But Wu Tang was infectious. Ill
Speaker 1: maadic was kind of like a thing on the island,
Speaker 1: and this is verified from all the gray minds from
Speaker 1: over there. Wu Tang became infectious almost across the country immedia,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like where people was like
Speaker 1: because they were street. They was fucking grimy and dirty,
Speaker 1: so any poor person could love them. Nas kind of
Speaker 1: was like a clean kind of college you know, came
Speaker 1: across as a college educated theorist, so it made people
Speaker 1: feel superior and intellectual. But Wu Tang was for the
Speaker 1: everyday person living outside. But I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: which part of the West you was on there was
Speaker 1: no fucking way possible. The majority of your experience hearing
Speaker 1: music and seeing life, you could have ever got away
Speaker 1: from the chronic doggie style murder was the case. Dog
Speaker 1: food all lies on me. This is nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six. These are
Speaker 1: the biggest records. Yeah, these are exactly that's my point.
Speaker 1: These are the biggest records in hip hop. Peers like listen.
Speaker 1: These are the biggest records in hip hop period at
Speaker 1: the time. It ain't like ill Madic was close to
Speaker 1: fucking Illmatic came out in ninety four, you know what
Speaker 1: came out in fucking ninety four, Like Snoop was right there,
Speaker 1: like Nigga. Illmatic is not even in the same global
Speaker 1: impact as Doggies. Doggie style is a phenomenon on its own.
Speaker 1: So it's like you had to avoid it purposely.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's but that's what I'm saying, though, Like I agree
Speaker 3: with that because I think what it was now that
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like really thinking back, most of the homies
Speaker 3: in Inglewood, not my Mexican homies, the black homies were
Speaker 3: listening to death Row.
Speaker 1: Most of the Mexican homies in Inglewood. Yeah, yes, and
Speaker 1: they were listening if they were listening to rap.
Speaker 4: Mut I'm not saying they didn't hear it. They did.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying if they were listening to Because
Speaker 1: you gotta realize, like we don't stimulate the actual economy.
Speaker 1: We could say, hey, this is the trending thing. But
Speaker 1: if you're on the West and you having success, it's
Speaker 1: because Mexican audiences is buying your shit. This is where
Speaker 1: we've been at for the last twenty thirty years. This
Speaker 1: ain't something new, Like Mexican people make up the majority
Speaker 1: of the buying population outside of white folks on the West.
Speaker 3: So I think I was part of that group that
Speaker 3: you're talking about as well.
Speaker 4: Where you just whatever, did it get it?
Speaker 3: Well, No, I wouldn't say maybe, I wouldn't say avoided it.
Speaker 3: I think for me, whoever, I gotta think back really well.
Speaker 3: But whatever crew I was hanging around with, like I
Speaker 3: remember the homie Indefinite remember in Depth or SUBI we
Speaker 3: listened to all that shit, but I remember he was
Speaker 3: always really big on raz Caz and like you know,
Speaker 3: corrupt and the way they rhymed.
Speaker 4: Right, So then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying you couldn't find one dude around
Speaker 1: or a few dudes in your crew. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that don't make up your nigga. If you went to
Speaker 1: a party, that's what they was playing.
Speaker 5: I liked.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 2: So you're right on your age what you're saying. But me,
Speaker 2: I'll say I avoided I liked the army pants. I
Speaker 2: liked the things that came with the Wu Tang and
Speaker 2: all that because at the time though, well at the
Speaker 2: because because I wasn't gang banging. And this is but
Speaker 2: at the time when the doggy style came out, I
Speaker 2: was living on sixty seventh and Cimarron, a Horseman with
Speaker 2: my grandma and auto on everybody. That's what was That's
Speaker 2: what was being heard. So I was listening to it
Speaker 2: on a daily but I would still go into my
Speaker 2: room and put on because I was avoiding that culture.
Speaker 5: I guess I would say of a gang.
Speaker 1: But this is what throws me off right about this
Speaker 1: whole conversation, Doctor Dre is not a gang banger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you couldn't tell us that one we're thirteen, fourteen.
Speaker 1: Flying years Did he say cousin blood?
Speaker 5: That didn't I didn't understand that at that.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is I never really associated.
Speaker 1: Like how how did it not register to you that
Speaker 1: Wu Tang was way more street than Doctor Dre. That's
Speaker 1: the problem because that's and that's the bias. I've always kind.
Speaker 3: Of accused you of it because because we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about Wu Tang, who's rapping on they album about
Speaker 1: doing cocaine, shooting niggas, doing dust. But you look at
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre and like, man, you know them niggas right,
Speaker 1: there's gang bangers. These niggas are the worst niggas in
Speaker 1: you know what I mean at the time. And it's
Speaker 1: nine of these crazy niggas right, and all of their raps.
Speaker 1: And that's the point, Like you would think they was
Speaker 1: like Cipher, they'd be just rapping about hey dope bars.
Speaker 1: Them niggas is talking about beating people up, shooting people
Speaker 1: and killing people. But somehow you judge the niggas around
Speaker 1: the corner.
Speaker 3: So what do you think, Jazz, do you think maybe
Speaker 3: it was the fact that maybe we just gravitated more
Speaker 3: to like the beats and didn't really listen to the
Speaker 3: rhymes the way we were supposed to. As much as
Speaker 3: I know rhymes from Wu Tang like he's right in
Speaker 3: what he's saying. I have to think that maybe I
Speaker 3: was just more attracted to the beats the way they
Speaker 3: sounded as opposed to the West Coast where they were
Speaker 3: dope beats as well. But I just liked that harder boom.
Speaker 3: What I think I thought was harder.
Speaker 2: I think mine, like I just say a second ago,
Speaker 2: was the fashion part of it that fas came with it.
Speaker 5: I wasn't a Chucks and you had money.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 5: I stole ship, so I made sure that.
Speaker 1: So you was gonna steal army pants.
Speaker 3: And Tim's and phone posits though still.
Speaker 1: As too to you know, let's say Chikano rap artists, right,
Speaker 1: both of y'all are Chicano. I get the connotation, but
Speaker 1: we all know what Chicano means. So as as street
Speaker 1: urban guys that grew up in street urban with that
Speaker 1: Spanish influence on the West, we know that's a Chicano person, right,
Speaker 1: So why weren't you playing Cypress Hill or let's say
Speaker 1: Kid Frost at the time.
Speaker 3: I actually I did pay play Kid Frost and I
Speaker 3: did play Cypress Hill.
Speaker 1: You want to know something, I'm gonna be honest, Like,
Speaker 1: why wasn't you celebrating Cypress Hill? Who are street guys
Speaker 1: as much as let's say, a Wu Tang and they
Speaker 1: was rapping the same way I did as a sound.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah that Cypress Hill?
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh we just because earlier Kid Frost was That's
Speaker 2: the whole other side.
Speaker 3: Sure of l A.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Still a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Don't know when did that come out? What year did
Speaker 3: come out? Ninety one?
Speaker 1: Soon around ninety two, ninety three? All this isn't the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 3: Right was ninety ninety three? It had to be about
Speaker 3: ninety one?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me look at it. Yeah, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: why weren't you?
Speaker 3: Well, No, what I was going to say was, I
Speaker 3: know for me, let me speak for me, because you know,
Speaker 3: Jazz has his own you know the way he ninety
Speaker 3: ninety right, so in nineteen ninety I had to be
Speaker 3: what about eleven twelve years old something like that. All right,
Speaker 3: So for me, what I start, what I do start?
Speaker 3: Remember right now that you're talking about, like, why did
Speaker 3: you do that? I thought in my mind that because
Speaker 3: this is the thing and you actually pointed this out
Speaker 3: to me, It's like you used to tell me when
Speaker 3: we first made it, like you do a lot of
Speaker 3: West Coast shit, but you but you, but you still
Speaker 3: try to act like East Coast kind of. And I
Speaker 3: think what it was was I think I was trying
Speaker 3: to be different from what it was here, not understanding
Speaker 3: that that kind of looked dumb.
Speaker 4: I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: Especially trying to do like a boy wearing a dress.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I wouldn't use that comparison.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean because it don't have it, don't
Speaker 1: it don't have to have a sec. I know we
Speaker 1: attach a section wind do we do right to what
Speaker 1: we do. But that's not what I'm saying. I give
Speaker 1: it just saying you don't have to be gay to
Speaker 1: wear a dress and heels. You know why you associated
Speaker 1: with being gay because you like, why would you wear
Speaker 1: a dress and heels? That's how I like, why would
Speaker 1: you dress like the East Coast?
Speaker 3: And I think it was just because it's trying to
Speaker 3: my bad. It was just trying to be different. I
Speaker 3: wanted to be different. I didn't want to be When
Speaker 3: you started hearing Chicano rap like, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: they ainate doing they rapping like this dog that's how
Speaker 3: it's just right. Listen, I'm just being honest so I
Speaker 3: can try.
Speaker 1: To I'm just saying make racist to like real Mexican rap.
Speaker 1: Well again as a Mexican.
Speaker 2: Person, and I used to always tell y'all that no, no, no,
Speaker 2: but see again, A big part of it and this
Speaker 2: is and we that's a whole nother conversation, but a
Speaker 2: big part of that was being the fact like when
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hoya with his crazy ass now.
Speaker 3: But when he talks about how Mexicans treated him for
Speaker 3: being too whitewashed or because he spoke a little bit
Speaker 3: too proper, like Mexicans really do shit like that. So
Speaker 3: then it makes you go, well, fuck you whoever, whatever
Speaker 3: you're going to be, No, no, no, not Mexican people a
Speaker 3: group of whatever they are. So for me in particular,
Speaker 3: at one time, it was Cholo's that acted that way.
Speaker 3: So now when I see Cholo's talking about, oh, I
Speaker 3: got the New Jordans and I got this, it's like
Speaker 3: not now per se in this moment, but like as
Speaker 3: I was getting older, as.
Speaker 4: I'm watching them do this, I'm like.
Speaker 3: You guys are fucking posers, perpetrators.
Speaker 1: When you did it, you were a Mayotheto.
Speaker 3: When I did it, I was a Mayatheto, sure, right,
Speaker 3: but I also didn't understand that A big part of
Speaker 3: why they were telling me that was because I was
Speaker 3: imitating East Coast hip hop in my dressing, so to them,
Speaker 3: I was trying to be Not only was I trying
Speaker 3: to be black, I was trying to be black from
Speaker 3: a whole nother coast. So it really stuck out.
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta realize, La, the most underrated part of
Speaker 1: where we all from, right is there's really one culture
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Like if you're from where we're from,
Speaker 1: not you you from Inglewood, So y'all still have some shit.
Speaker 1: But on our side of town, right on the east side,
Speaker 1: Watch Concis, South south Gate, Lynnwood, all that Long Beach,
Speaker 1: we're one culture. I grew up my whole life eating
Speaker 1: savice to Molly's, Mexican food, Mexican friends, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I've been going to Kensonata since I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: different people, so it's always been one culture. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing about the East Side. It's pretty much one culture.
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't understand like kind of the talk.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: things that we do, like we all were at the
Speaker 1: hest of it, low riding, fashion, dickies. All of this
Speaker 1: stuff was things we all shared.
Speaker 2: So imagine being go ahead Jae my thing too, he said,
Speaker 2: personal differences like I said, being black and watermelon and
Speaker 2: then having beef all the time with Mexicans and getting confused.
Speaker 5: I had a major identity thing.
Speaker 2: Sure then knowing yo, like why black folks suckled me
Speaker 2: so much? And it seemed like my mom it was
Speaker 2: a toiler so.
Speaker 1: Cortes, No, no, I was a quartet. No, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be a game. You're not one of us.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna dress like I'm like, so what the
Speaker 2: fuck do I wear it?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to find And then when I
Speaker 2: got the transition from Southgate to Culver.
Speaker 1: City culture, yeah, WHOA, now on your pants. I'm it's
Speaker 1: really less culture in Cuver City compared and and shout
Speaker 1: out to the covers projects. No culture it is.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's more mixed cultures.
Speaker 1: It's not. That's not how it.
Speaker 3: Works, right, culture tell you that's why it gets confused.
Speaker 1: It's not because it's mainstream.
Speaker 3: That's fine, but there's no when you.
Speaker 1: Listen, there's no culture in Santa Monica. It's a it's
Speaker 1: just tradition. Like and in affluent communities, there's no cultures,
Speaker 1: just tradition. It's a mainstream thing. Culture is birth out
Speaker 1: of poverty. It's only in poverty. That's why I'm not
Speaker 1: no say to Santa Monica, Culver City, because Converce City
Speaker 1: you got some ship. But they just like Tolos from
Speaker 1: East La. When you get to the culture part of them,
Speaker 1: the real part like them niggas is them motherfuckers is
Speaker 1: like East La. You're gonna go over there, have a problem,
Speaker 1: You're finna be a Mayata. You're gonna get the whole
Speaker 1: treatment over there. And the gangs that's close over there,
Speaker 1: you will get the cripp and blood treatment. Them niggas
Speaker 1: look the same I told you we were talking about.
Speaker 1: But that's what I was saying.
Speaker 5: That was like the richer you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: But Darryl Heights getting you.
Speaker 1: Over here, You're closer, You're closer to it over there.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm saying is, so that's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying a lot of the ideas, and I think that's
Speaker 1: part of it right is because the further you go west,
Speaker 1: it is less culture, not so culture being this thing
Speaker 1: rooted like you know, in poverty, in oppression. That's why
Speaker 1: you birth it. The lingo in the slang right comes
Speaker 1: from bad education programs that are not translating to educating students.
Speaker 1: Dickies are not like some nigga shows like oh these
Speaker 1: is gonna be the freshest pants. These were the pens
Speaker 1: you could afford to get six pairs for school year.
Speaker 1: That year, r Chucks were fourteen fifteen, sixteen dollars in HP.
Speaker 1: All my older homies, their parents took them to HP
Speaker 1: Huntington Park, the shopping If anybody know what HP is,
Speaker 1: that's Mexico. Yeah. So again the culture is birth out
Speaker 1: of necessity. It's what you can afford.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Cortez was cheap. They were not like they had tennis
Speaker 1: shoes that were more expensive. These were cheaply and cheaper
Speaker 1: made running shoes. I could get anything but Cortes and Chucks.
Speaker 3: And it's funny that you said that because my dad,
Speaker 3: who grew up in Santa Monica, from Santa Monica, who
Speaker 3: wore pendletons, Dickies wallabies in his time, which that's what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 4: It was wallabies and hard bottom.
Speaker 3: Shoes for them.
Speaker 1: Wallabes just steal that shit for us.
Speaker 3: Right for sure? You know. And that's funny, right because
Speaker 3: that was nothing. I used to love wearing with wallabies,
Speaker 3: but I always identified it with ghosts and yeah, crazy right,
Speaker 3: But no, I get I get what you're saying. I
Speaker 3: get everything that you're saying. Gee, I think so were
Speaker 3: you guys would you say, let me ask you a question, now,
Speaker 3: would you say that maybe that's why we got the
Speaker 3: hate so to speak. I guess, if you want to
Speaker 3: call it, that was because maybe we didn't grow up
Speaker 3: with a lot of money, right, Like we didn't. We weren't
Speaker 3: rich or nothing, but maybe our families had a little
Speaker 3: bit more money than the ones on the east, so
Speaker 3: we were able. Like you know, my my mom's you know,
Speaker 3: she didn't have the money, but she would put it
Speaker 3: together because I wanted Carl Kanai or I wanted a
Speaker 3: pair of cross colors, because that's what was being worn
Speaker 3: in middle school when I went to school in Santa
Speaker 3: Monica at Lincoln Middle School.
Speaker 4: So and it was all the white boys.
Speaker 3: But even now that I think back, the brothers that
Speaker 3: were there, even if they were from Venice or Inglewood
Speaker 3: or even up to the sixth fashion show, it was
Speaker 3: more like a fashion show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixties created like a show, right, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 2: But the West Side is like that, like the sixties created.
Speaker 2: The sixties created kind of to me the gang banger
Speaker 2: nerdy docker looks. They were the first ones wearing dockers
Speaker 2: to me as a gang banger, because it's in my time,
Speaker 2: the sixth old started wearing dockers first and butting up
Speaker 2: shirts and all that, and that's the West Side thing.
Speaker 2: But it's also I agree, because you motherfuckers had money, so.
Speaker 3: Eddie Bower and shit, that's what it're just talking about.
Speaker 1: So it's like, so what's starting to make sense to
Speaker 1: me is I never caught this part?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: And then when he said it y'all parents, is why
Speaker 1: y'all not like that? Yeah, your parents like it, like
Speaker 1: most people, parents bought them dickies. They didn't have a choice, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You didn't have a choice.
Speaker 1: Wasn't nobody finna drop you off at Santa Monica, Nigga,
Speaker 1: You're going to school at Inglewood High School on Morningside.
Speaker 1: That's where culture is born at. But when your parents
Speaker 1: got some money and some will, I mean, they can
Speaker 1: keep you away from her, say the culture, which kind
Speaker 1: of because most of this shit, like I said, if
Speaker 1: your mom says, okay, well look your mom being a Chola,
Speaker 1: and she's like all right, well look I'm finna go
Speaker 1: take you and she finished she by you Ben Davis's
Speaker 1: she boy you Ben Dave, excuse me, and some quartees.
Speaker 1: For sure, that begins to enter into everything else. You
Speaker 1: start to look like what's outside and you're beginning to
Speaker 1: take in more culture outside. Same for you, right, your pops,
Speaker 1: you know, he was your pops to me, like when
Speaker 1: we always talk about him as an original Trolo, Like
Speaker 1: the feel of what a real solo is like, not
Speaker 1: the modern version of this hyper violent thing you know soon,
Speaker 1: but like a real proud Mexican American, Like, Yo, I'm here,
Speaker 1: but this is still I came from a real struggle
Speaker 1: in the third world country. So I'm gonna represent and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear these clothes even though I can afford better.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna remind you it's like when black people
Speaker 1: eat sould. For even though we far removed from slavery.
Speaker 1: I guess the reminder of the struggle. Wat's up with it?
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Speaker 1: thought about it, but it's your parents, right it is
Speaker 1: because they kept out on the side.
Speaker 3: Well, they were trying to keep us away from now
Speaker 3: it makes sense.
Speaker 4: Actually that's why I didn't.
Speaker 3: I did have a dad that was like, now, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna wear that because you're not going to look
Speaker 3: like the little, you know, little gang banger out there
Speaker 3: on the corner. That's how he would look at it,
Speaker 3: mind you he comes from that. See, I went to
Speaker 3: school in Inglewood, Like, I didn't grow up in Santa
Speaker 3: Monica per se. Originally we moved to Inglewood. I went
Speaker 3: to school all of my elementary And the only reason
Speaker 3: I got into Santa Monica was because my pops got
Speaker 3: a job as a sanitation driver. And during that time,
Speaker 3: they actually allowed your child to go on a permit
Speaker 3: if you worked in the city. Sure, and that's why
Speaker 3: I was at COVID City was a work work permit.
Speaker 3: So and it was different, bro, because again, even the
Speaker 3: Mexicans in Santa Monica and like the graveyards that were
Speaker 3: over there, the crips and all that like that. So
Speaker 3: that's funny you're talking about cover city Santa Monica right
Speaker 3: by the college is the whole section of Mexican and
Speaker 3: black gangs in this one small ass.
Speaker 1: Radius because it's really cheap living right there.
Speaker 3: Right and there's rent control and all that. So you know,
Speaker 3: going going going to Santa Monica. Though those Mexicans, oddly enough,
Speaker 3: most of them were choloslos like you said, like maybe
Speaker 3: like an East Lacholo. So when I went to school,
Speaker 3: you know, I remember going to school even in Lincoln
Speaker 3: Middle School. They was already looking at me like that
Speaker 3: because I was already into what I was into. You know,
Speaker 3: you got you know, digital underground, And even though that's
Speaker 3: a West Coast group, the sound to me back then
Speaker 3: was true. Well to me, it felt like what what
Speaker 3: I was listening to already from you know LLL And.
Speaker 1: You know it's not like that. Remember ll is produced
Speaker 1: by West Coast, the nigga who started forties producer.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that it's weird because I was banging
Speaker 2: you know what album I was banging banging on X
Speaker 2: and I wasn't a game member.
Speaker 1: Well that's Battlecat right. So again a lot of the music.
Speaker 1: So the album you talk about, because you're not talking
Speaker 1: about the first L record, we're too young for that.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Bigger and Deafer Bad, I Need Love
Speaker 1: that's produced by somebody right here.
Speaker 3: From the West Coast pool and bodcast. So then what
Speaker 3: I was clearly being influenced by was television.
Speaker 2: Then well I don't think I don't think that what
Speaker 2: I think happened was right.
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound crazy, right, but most people parents
Speaker 1: raise them. When you don't have money, you have to
Speaker 1: buy what's affordable clothes. The clothes began to send different
Speaker 1: type of people your way. That's when the people start
Speaker 1: to influence you. But when you on the West Side
Speaker 1: and you were in like these affluent places. Because I
Speaker 1: went to Arteesa High school for one year, my mom
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me go to Compton High, No Jordan, no
Speaker 1: Lock because they didn't have AP classes. She's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna continue to achieve. I'm not gonna put you
Speaker 1: in classes that don't have eight I'm not gonna put
Speaker 1: you in school that don't have AP classes Advanced placement.
Speaker 1: So the only schools was schools outside of the ghetto. Right,
Speaker 1: So I went to our teacher for one year. Right.
Speaker 1: The problem with it is that's where you know, if
Speaker 1: you listen to Wu Tang High School, it's because you're
Speaker 1: a mainstream person out here, you're at a mainstream place.
Speaker 1: Mainstream is you start to everything is available to you,
Speaker 1: everything is available. None of it has to represent anything
Speaker 1: because whatever you choose is fine because this is the
Speaker 1: That's how it was at our teacher that one year.
Speaker 3: Shout out, Manny, So we're the Manning's of our generations.
Speaker 1: Actually, right, So well, it's different because Manny didn't grow
Speaker 1: up on nothing else. But hell no, Manny is a
Speaker 1: poor motherfucker. Shout out to Manny. Manny's on Ace Boy
Speaker 1: Worldwide podcast every Friday, Homy Punisher, how many trade.
Speaker 3: He lives everything?
Speaker 1: But now that's because guess what, he's a traveling, paid,
Speaker 1: affluent black man. So at this point he's just he's mainstream.
Speaker 1: Like if you see man he has no cultural identity,
Speaker 1: like he'll just listen to whatever, because that's how it
Speaker 1: is in mainstream America. So when you at Santa Monica
Speaker 1: or you go to these really nice, affluent schools where
Speaker 1: people don't need anything to create the identity. Like, remember,
Speaker 1: poverty creates this personal need to hold on to something.
Speaker 1: You don't have nothing else, so you hold on to
Speaker 1: everything that you are, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: you know the music if it's representing you, like, that's me.
Speaker 1: This is all I gotten, is me. But when you
Speaker 1: go to Santa Monica and these are really more like
Speaker 1: middle class communities, it's like, yeah, we don't need anything,
Speaker 1: We'll play whatever I like and then guess what, you
Speaker 1: have this choice. But when you come from where we
Speaker 1: come from, you know what I mean, like if you
Speaker 1: would have went to it's not no big Wu tang
Speaker 1: group of niggas at Inglewood. Them niggas is playing death row. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it was like that because me going I always
Speaker 5: lived in Southgate.
Speaker 1: But I was going to school course City.
Speaker 2: I dressed and fit in when I went to school.
Speaker 2: When I came back to Southgate, you look crazy. I
Speaker 2: look crazy, same to me for me, And because Southgate
Speaker 2: is still a poor place exactly, it's really a poor place.
Speaker 2: And me and him, me and I was discussing this
Speaker 2: all my friends in Kobe City and he was like, no,
Speaker 2: I said, it was all gang members, but their parents
Speaker 2: was fucking lawyers, doctors, all.
Speaker 1: Kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's west Side game, banging, west Side game, maan.
Speaker 2: And necessarily they all came to school fresh as shit
Speaker 2: with money. I told one of my friends was sixteen,
Speaker 2: was coming to school and his dad's Porsche.
Speaker 1: Well what I'm saying. So it's like, so there are
Speaker 1: some gangs that are in affluent communities, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And they do got these little because don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, like where the grave yards at it's
Speaker 1: a poor little niche. Yeah, but the sound of fucking Monica, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it is this little poor spot, but the nigga
Speaker 2: is as soon as you step a couple of blocks, you.
Speaker 1: And some coin. Same with Venice, like the shore lines
Speaker 1: where they from. You know, one thing that you ever
Speaker 1: don't know about Venice is like there's a part over
Speaker 1: there that's like one of the earliest places black people
Speaker 1: settled in Los Angeles, Oakwood. I forgot what it's called.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up, but like nineteen twenties, thirties,
Speaker 1: like that's how long black people was in Venice. So Venice,
Speaker 1: that whole area, the shorelines and all that. Some of
Speaker 1: them people, their famili's been over there, like they're working
Speaker 1: on a couple generations. And that's not normal, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Most black people where we are from, they
Speaker 1: started in the low bottoms. That's in the forties, fifties
Speaker 1: and sixties. Them niggas in the shorelines and Venice, shout
Speaker 1: out to them, them niggas families. Some of their family's
Speaker 1: been over there since the fucking twenties. So again, as
Speaker 1: soon as you step out from that little poor niche
Speaker 1: of you know, Venice is Venice yeah, so you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's some coins. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people birth gangs because they're close to so some
Speaker 1: of these middle class communities birth get because they're close
Speaker 1: to poor communities. And you need to protect your ship.
Speaker 1: That's why you get Graveyard. That's why you get you know,
Speaker 1: by yourself. That's why you get Playboy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, you get those you get that's where you
Speaker 1: get a mansfield because you're not finna bring that bullshit
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 3: Right, and we're gonna protect ourselves.
Speaker 1: And guess what, now you got a gang.
Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense, but it's it's just weird to me.
Speaker 1: Like I said that you culturally don't well, I guess
Speaker 1: that's the truth. That's what's wrong. You didn't have if
Speaker 1: you go to Santa Monica, right, like, yeah, you from Inglewood,
Speaker 1: and Inglewood is already like a place that could be
Speaker 1: considered a middle class community. It was it isn't kind
Speaker 1: of not well, the Bottoms has its area and some
Speaker 1: of the families. Yeah a couple of dollars sure, but
Speaker 1: so so yeah, you're from somewhat that we could be
Speaker 1: considered a suburb of Los Angeles, right from south Gate
Speaker 1: and if you're from Inglewood, yeah you're in Yeah, you
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: If you from where we're from, you go Inglewood.
Speaker 1: You moved up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you moved one clove.
Speaker 1: Make sense, Well, it's just a better place.
Speaker 3: It's better. Well no, no, no, no, you don't know what
Speaker 3: to wats it was like, it makes even Yeah, but
Speaker 3: it makes sense even in the grand scheme of history,
Speaker 3: like going back to the fifties when blacks and Latinos
Speaker 3: couldn't come past the East La Bridge and then Alameda.
Speaker 5: Right, nothing across Alamedia nothing.
Speaker 3: And then and then once you once you were allowed to,
Speaker 3: it was like you're you were getting in this better area.
Speaker 3: And that's how it was always looked at. So I
Speaker 3: get it, man, But listen, I understood it. I'm glad
Speaker 3: that it's even though it's come a lot later for me,
Speaker 3: Like I get it now. You know. I was able to,
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to the homie Midget local, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like shout out to Midget you know.
Speaker 3: Him, the guy the brother Burst Rock, twenty seven Junkies, Oreo,
Speaker 3: the homie Breeze, Shout out to Breeze, OBM. You know,
Speaker 3: those were the guys that really started connecting me with
Speaker 3: working with like you know, Spanky Local and like you
Speaker 3: know Midget Local who I met Spanky Local through Midget
Speaker 3: and just being able to talk to him, you know.
Speaker 3: And I've told the story many times. It's like I
Speaker 3: really grasped everything. And he even kind of goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: we did look at you guys like that, he goes,
Speaker 3: But now I kind of understand. We just kind of
Speaker 3: were still Mexican. We're just throwing a different area has money.
Speaker 3: Well he didn't say that, but I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: that would be the idea.
Speaker 1: But you did say your pop's got the job. That's
Speaker 1: a good job. So that yeah, yeah, that good job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a good job. So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: My mom's was working at as Sony at Columbia Pictures, right, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's right.
Speaker 2: We did have I and I didn't think of it
Speaker 2: that way because when it was school shopping, it wasn't
Speaker 2: to the Swami, right, it was to maybe the less
Speaker 2: was like shoe city to buy some shoes. But my
Speaker 2: call canis my cross colors was Fox Hills mall right, right,
Speaker 2: and even everybody can go to Fox Hills Mall and
Speaker 2: go shopping and that's kind of shopping. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy, bro, because look, thinking about it back then
Speaker 2: as a kid too, you got to think about this.
Speaker 3: You did it, Yeah, shout out.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that, But think about it.
Speaker 3: We used to probably think, oh, well, we're not like
Speaker 3: the rich white kids who have every color on every shoe.
Speaker 3: So yeah we got this, but we're not rich.
Speaker 2: I got bottom cross colors, right, but it was still
Speaker 2: from fox Hill's mall.
Speaker 3: And as kids, you don't think because you're you know,
Speaker 3: at that time, like I didn't really start realizing a
Speaker 3: lot of the cultural shock to me came once I
Speaker 3: got into high school, bro at Santa Monica, and I
Speaker 3: started messing with chicks from East La or El Sereno
Speaker 3: or you know, El Sad I know, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, and I would be in those areas
Speaker 3: and you kind of were like, you know, like I'd
Speaker 3: be like, you know, oh ship, Like you know, at
Speaker 3: one time you was like what is this? Like you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it felt like too yeah, but it felt like
Speaker 3: too much, right, Like at one point it felt like
Speaker 3: like I knew what thacos were. I knew what it
Speaker 3: was to be Mexican.
Speaker 1: But again it come money.
Speaker 4: We had some money and.
Speaker 1: Not a ton of money. Because that's the problem with
Speaker 1: LA because we know money is really close. Like that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Even in Why to Southgate money is fucking
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away, So Inglewood money is four minutes away.
Speaker 1: So you always looked at real money. It was like,
Speaker 1: well I don't got money like that, but compared to
Speaker 1: East La Southgate, that's money. So yeah, it's that town
Speaker 1: in Venice. That part of Venice, LA is called Oakwood.
Speaker 1: It's called Dog Oakwood Town.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, for.
Speaker 1: There was Dog Town, there was Oakwood. In the early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred, real estate developer Abbic Kenny hired African Americans
Speaker 1: to construct the canals and name the district the Venice
Speaker 1: of California, which is after Italy. The nineteen twenties, a
Speaker 1: small black community, mainly employees of Abby Kenny, were centered
Speaker 1: north of Electric Avenue between Westminster and San Juan Avenues.
Speaker 1: This area will become Oakwood, an African American neighborhood separated
Speaker 1: geographically but geographically centered in the middle of a white community.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen forties and fifties, during World War Two,
Speaker 1: the population of African Americans would triple. This was when
Speaker 1: my great grandfather moved to Venice from Markasaw's part of
Speaker 1: the gray migration of African Americans out of the South.
Speaker 1: Oakwood was segregated by the Covenant and section as the
Speaker 1: only area in Venice where African Americans could own property.
Speaker 1: There was only a nine square mile area that they
Speaker 1: fenced off so black people could buy homes fenced off.
Speaker 3: Well, that's when they call the redlining, that's what that was.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the first I think that is
Speaker 1: the first place on the West Side that black people.
Speaker 1: That might be the first place in l A.
Speaker 3: That city allowed it and.
Speaker 1: Only have like you y'all gonna build this year, but
Speaker 1: you niggas can live right here. What's dope about this
Speaker 1: podcast today? And and I finally figured it out. It's poverty.
Speaker 1: So you had the choice to to to kind of
Speaker 1: integrate with people, and your parents gave you better. So
Speaker 1: at that point you had so again like because you
Speaker 1: went to this school, there was no need to hold
Speaker 1: on to the coat because if you would have went
Speaker 1: to Morning Side, you was gonna be this because you
Speaker 1: know the type of it's not no, ain't no indefinities
Speaker 1: like that at shout out to the end Death, But
Speaker 1: there's no indefinites at well fucking morning side.
Speaker 5: That's why moms didn't let me south Gate and it hands.
Speaker 4: Down, Yeah, and you for sure.
Speaker 3: And it's funny you said, because then Death was raised
Speaker 3: by his grandmother, right, and grandma lived right on Sentinella
Speaker 3: in Santa Monica like that Westwood, kind of like mar
Speaker 3: Vista almost area, which is a really nice area. I
Speaker 3: think she was an educated, really nice woman too. But
Speaker 3: that's crazy now that i'm thinking about. You're right, even
Speaker 3: like the homie Roy Davidson, they was all venice, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So they you said it earlier though she could afford it,
Speaker 2: your parents can afford it.
Speaker 1: I was able to buy. And that's why I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the hip hop part of culture is you have
Speaker 1: to be proud of it because it's fucked up, so
Speaker 1: you don't want to be insecure, so you compensate with
Speaker 1: a pride of it as a representation like Dickie's it's
Speaker 1: a work pants, nigga, that's a work pants. That's a
Speaker 1: factory pants for people working in a factory. And this
Speaker 1: was the only thing people moms and dads could afford
Speaker 1: to start a school year, and you didn't have no money.
Speaker 1: So I can get you you can get one pair
Speaker 1: of these, or you can get ten pair of them.
Speaker 1: You wanted ten fucking pair of pants, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can get this one pair of tennis shoes which
Speaker 1: is Feli's, or these k Swiss, you know, because these
Speaker 1: motherfuckers is fifty six dollars, or you could get this
Speaker 1: motherfucking three pair of these sixteen dollars chuck tails, or
Speaker 1: this twenty two dollars cortes. That's deep. So once you
Speaker 1: walked outside in these new clothes, that started to set
Speaker 1: how everybody else interacted with you, the type of other
Speaker 1: poor people you attracted, right, and then how you started
Speaker 1: to hold on to it as an identity because everybody
Speaker 1: else where you went would make fun because you didn't
Speaker 1: have no money.
Speaker 3: So now I have a question that has nothing to
Speaker 3: do with us. Maybe you can answer it for us.
Speaker 3: What is your thoughts and maybe your thoughts to what
Speaker 3: you could think when you think about it too, But
Speaker 3: I know he'll be able to for sure answer this.
Speaker 3: What about the guys who did grow up like that
Speaker 3: then got a little money and switched up. So like
Speaker 3: I know that there was Charlo's, the guys that I
Speaker 3: know that wore the Chucks, that wore the vans, that
Speaker 3: wore the dickies. Maybe their parents didn't have the money,
Speaker 3: like you're saying, right, But then later on as we
Speaker 3: got older and obviously they started getting money. Now they're
Speaker 3: doing what me and him have already been doing because
Speaker 3: our parents had a little bit of bread.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the point of that's why, that's the point, right.
Speaker 4: So then, but how do they lose themselves?
Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Didn't lose They only held it because you had to
Speaker 1: be proud of being that poor. That's how you was
Speaker 1: proud to be poor. You couldn't make fun of me
Speaker 1: with your nice shoes and I got my chucks. Bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm the real deal out here. This is me. You
Speaker 1: just a sellout.
Speaker 3: You look like That's what they were trying.
Speaker 2: You didn't look like you didn't look like us, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean you didn't look Yeah, you didn't look poor.
Speaker 1: You looked at like choice. That's all the translation. So
Speaker 1: that's why they had to put the pressure on you,
Speaker 1: because it's like either if they gonna say, look at
Speaker 1: him over there with money. That's what it is.
Speaker 4: And that's what they was hating on, not so much weapons.
Speaker 1: It's not even I wouldn't even call it hating poor
Speaker 1: people looking at people with money. It's not hating, like
Speaker 1: I hate that. That's the narrative today, Like there's.
Speaker 3: A fucking real eason.
Speaker 4: Why I call it?
Speaker 1: I understand, But listen to what I'm saying poor people.
Speaker 1: Like if a motherfucker is starving outside, he's looking at
Speaker 1: a window and you got a big ass steak and
Speaker 1: he like, bitch ass nigga got that steak. He's not hating,
Speaker 1: he's hungry. Hating is when you're making a conscious choice
Speaker 1: to react. I'm tired of hating being the go to thing.
Speaker 1: It's not bro. People are poor. I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: should be mad at you. That's a complex of poverty,
Speaker 1: but they're not hating on you. They like damn. I
Speaker 1: wish I had a choice, but I don't. So I
Speaker 1: have to be proud of this poverty because this is
Speaker 1: all I have. I have to be proud of this
Speaker 1: culture because I can't make a choice to choose anything else.
Speaker 1: I have to use pride to overcome. You know, America
Speaker 1: is built on you know, fuck the poor people. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you being superior. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what makes low riding so great. Low
Speaker 1: riding is taking old cars, fixing them up and making
Speaker 1: them special because you don't want to go finance a
Speaker 1: brand new fucking car. It's cheaper to rebuild a car.
Speaker 1: Didn't go buy a new car. You could build it
Speaker 1: in payments, in limpsums, exactly how you want it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So are you talking about in terms of putting
Speaker 3: that up against a high end luxury car, because now
Speaker 3: an old school car, you do that and it's worth
Speaker 3: more than any piece of shit.
Speaker 1: Guess what at this place now, culture is completely different.
Speaker 1: If you went to a soulful restaurant that was the
Speaker 1: highest solful rest they probably charged more than Flemings. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because culture right now is poverty
Speaker 1: is fleeting in America right now. You just broke. Ain't
Speaker 1: really no poverty, especially not where we're from. Like a
Speaker 1: house and.
Speaker 2: Watch costs five hundred thousand dollars. This is the worst
Speaker 2: place in Black La Watts. A house on the seven
Speaker 2: is five hundred thousand nigga, you cannot be a poor person.
Speaker 2: You can be broke, but you can't be poor class.
Speaker 1: Ain't no more people in the house doing drugs, not
Speaker 1: paying this rent, you know what I'm saying. It's no
Speaker 1: more that like, ain't no more just hanging out, drinking
Speaker 1: and fucking up. Everybody got a job to pay this rent, this.
Speaker 3: Rent in La but another pushing people to the outskirts, which.
Speaker 1: Is where that is in the jungles.
Speaker 5: That does you in the jungle, she's paying twenty four hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that is gentrified and just you know for sure.
Speaker 1: So when you gentrified, you lose culture. And that's what
Speaker 1: I was saying to you earlier when you I think
Speaker 1: you was kind of almost got offended. You have tradition
Speaker 1: in middle class, in affluent community, you don't have culture.
Speaker 1: You have tradition. You could have things that we all
Speaker 1: do just because we just want to do them. Culture
Speaker 1: is a force. It's a way of life that you
Speaker 1: live because of the conditions. You don't have a choice,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, the fashion is cheap. Ain't no
Speaker 1: expensive shit in culture. Gucci is not culture. Louis Vuatana
Speaker 1: is not culture.
Speaker 3: It's white culture.
Speaker 1: It's not culture at all, because white people don't wear
Speaker 1: that shit. It's not culture. It's just it's just clothes,
Speaker 1: don't It don't mean nothing. If you wear some Dickies
Speaker 1: it means something facts, But it didn't mean nothing when
Speaker 1: they first started wearing them. It was just this was
Speaker 1: what the poor people in LA was going to get
Speaker 1: because this is what HP sold. The shit of HP
Speaker 1: had this. HP had Chucks, Cortes and Dickies and Ben
Speaker 1: Davis and Carhart. That's what you want work clothes solo.
Speaker 3: So let's jump around to something real quick. So why
Speaker 3: do you think so at that time thinking about those
Speaker 3: those fabrics of clothing, right, Because that's what we could afford.
Speaker 3: If you think about like our parents, right, or pair
Speaker 3: of our friends' parents even you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like the way they dressed as adults at the age
Speaker 3: we are now, right, even yourself still right, like you
Speaker 3: still will wear Chucks. You're you know, we're at a
Speaker 3: certain age now that our parents were. So why do
Speaker 3: you think now we look the way we do? Is
Speaker 3: it just culture the evolution? Or like how can I
Speaker 3: say this? Like I know that we're all grown men.
Speaker 3: We take care of our bills, take care of our families.
Speaker 3: We do our thing responsible, but yes, responsibly responsible. But
Speaker 3: when you look at us, still look to me, we
Speaker 3: still look fresh. We're not like kids, but just you know,
Speaker 3: still very fashionable with whatever you consider fashionable, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Even when I see you. Back in
Speaker 3: the day, our parents dressed like with a button down
Speaker 3: and slacks. Was that part of coming from poverty? Is
Speaker 3: that what that was? And now because we've our generations
Speaker 3: have grown and made more money, now as adults were
Speaker 3: able to dress a little different. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to figure out.
Speaker 1: Obviously, you're wearing mainstream attire correct, completely topped about. Sure
Speaker 1: I'm dressed like a crip, So he's not. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you're wearing what you can afford. Sure, you're wearing four
Speaker 1: hundred dollars shoes. Them shoes are seven hundred dollars today.
Speaker 3: But they're but that's not but that's not what they
Speaker 3: cost retail. Yeah, retailer is two thirty something to twenty
Speaker 3: to twenty.
Speaker 1: The retail on my shoes is fifty six dollars.
Speaker 3: That's not true about some for my daughter the other
Speaker 3: day they were almost seventy four dollars. So don't like
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So these were fifty six, so they went up again.
Speaker 1: So the point I'm saying is.
Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying, right.
Speaker 1: That shirt is probably thirty or forty dollars.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's not anything. This is shout out to.
Speaker 4: The homie law from Germany.
Speaker 1: It says Rock the Bells.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he did it. He did a collab.
Speaker 3: The artist did a collab and I follow him on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Totally understand that. But that's like Maine.
Speaker 4: It's not mainstream.
Speaker 1: Yes, is mainstream.
Speaker 4: Oh it because Rock the Bells got you.
Speaker 1: It has ODB on the back. Yes, yes, a dead rapper.
Speaker 1: That's black. The whitest thing ever.
Speaker 3: That's the whitest thing ever.
Speaker 2: Shout OUTDB man, like a dead black a dead black
Speaker 2: wrapper on your shirt is the whitest thing you could do.
Speaker 4: Why it's paying homage to hip hop, it's.
Speaker 5: Making it making money off of somebody.
Speaker 1: You know you'll be able to make some money off.
Speaker 1: All I know is, you know, you know white people
Speaker 1: love dead black entertainers.
Speaker 2: How many shirtslive? But how many shirts had O DB's
Speaker 2: face on it alive?
Speaker 1: How many? Is you win?
Speaker 3: I had wo tank shirts and don't play with me.
Speaker 1: No, they didn't really.
Speaker 3: Have merch like that back then. Let's just be honest.
Speaker 3: That's some that's not their merch right now. Huh, that's
Speaker 3: not their merch right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: Can be tied to his family, You don't know that.
Speaker 3: A matter of fact, I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 1: Law if young throwing under there. So that's about fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: So it's about two seventy in the shoes because them,
Speaker 1: for sure it's to seventy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, key to the Adida socks ain't normal.
Speaker 1: The Adida socks is twenty six dollars that had his
Speaker 1: fifty bucks.
Speaker 5: He didn't even argue the twenty six dollars stuff that.
Speaker 3: Had his fifty bucks.
Speaker 4: This is also an independent.
Speaker 1: That had his fiftieth sixty dollars.
Speaker 3: This is an so let me tell you say it
Speaker 3: fifty years hold on, hold on, shout out to the
Speaker 3: homies that X marks the spot twenty two out in
Speaker 3: the Bronx, New York. He makes some fly ass ship
Speaker 3: bro La and West Coast style hats.
Speaker 4: And this is an independent.
Speaker 3: He's been sued by New Error because of his hats
Speaker 3: and like they've shut down his page. So this is
Speaker 3: not mainstream. The idea might be of what's on it.
Speaker 1: It's mainstream.
Speaker 3: No, but it's an independent guy doing this thing. It's
Speaker 3: actually culture.
Speaker 1: It's actually an independent probably white guy.
Speaker 3: No, he's Puerto Rican. It's not white. I know, you
Speaker 3: guys like to call Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. He call
Speaker 3: us white.
Speaker 1: But because it's only black, white, and Asian, that's the
Speaker 1: only three races.
Speaker 3: Did you you know that? Did you know that it's cacazoid,
Speaker 3: Lloyd and Nero, those three original men of that everything nigga,
Speaker 3: what rod no, even no niggas is not talking about
Speaker 3: the original is Cocazoid?
Speaker 1: Is that where Caucasian comes from? For white even mountains.
Speaker 4: And the Mongoloids there was.
Speaker 1: Like you, I mean, it's the initial place of where
Speaker 1: that race came came from. Sure, all that stuff it's
Speaker 1: just sound racist, but so what I'm saying is yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying so the concept is, yes, your money
Speaker 1: right you you you're making a living. I mean, and
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get
Speaker 1: on a podcast act like you're rich, but you can
Speaker 1: afford to take care of yourself and show you. So
Speaker 1: it's it's not like the Tolos didn't want to wear
Speaker 1: the hip thing. They couldn't afford to wear the.
Speaker 3: Hip thing, so so talk shit about you well, and
Speaker 3: then when they can afford it later, then they decided
Speaker 3: they would go ahead and wear that.
Speaker 4: That's always the cake got you. I get it.
Speaker 1: I just again have mercy on us. I know, because
Speaker 1: I can't say understanding. I can't even say us no,
Speaker 1: because I didn't have to wear none of that shit.
Speaker 1: I had crawl canine, cross colored, yous damage all that shit.
Speaker 1: But growing up in Compton and watch, I kind of
Speaker 1: had an affinity for our people. So even though you
Speaker 1: had something there.
Speaker 4: I think from my understanding, you was also a good fighter.
Speaker 3: See I wasn't the best fighting.
Speaker 1: I didn't really become I could fight even before I knew,
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize I could fight till I was
Speaker 1: about eighteen nineteen. Okay, but that's not the point. My
Speaker 1: mom even though prime example, like right my mom where
Speaker 1: I grew up at in Compton, at my mom's house
Speaker 1: my dad is the seven right, which is like this
Speaker 1: super enterprise community right enterprise like there are is like
Speaker 1: a it's like an economic tyrant in the in the
Speaker 1: d Boy community at these times. I mean, so it's
Speaker 1: an earning place. You earned here. And then my mom
Speaker 1: we lived in the Richland farms.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I knew how to ride a horse at six. I
Speaker 1: knew how to swim at six in Compton, smack dad
Speaker 1: in Compton.
Speaker 3: So if you you because I remember you told me this,
Speaker 3: you know at Rest in Peace Olivia. She was also
Speaker 3: a nurse, right, yeah, so if you had Brad, she
Speaker 3: could afford these things. What made you stick to what
Speaker 3: it was?
Speaker 1: It wasn't what it was? Right, I identified with poor black people.
Speaker 4: Why if you weren't poor.
Speaker 1: Everybody else was. So that's the problem because I didn't
Speaker 1: get to So maybe if I go to school somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't go to Kennedy. I didn't go
Speaker 1: to Walton Middle School.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I went to our teacher one year and I was
Speaker 1: at Paramount. At Paramount got ap classes. But Paramount is
Speaker 1: like a baby Southgate shut out. No disrespect to all
Speaker 1: the homies in Paramount. That's not what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: saying as far as like how fucking gang infested? It is,
Speaker 1: like that's some shit, you know what I mean, so
Speaker 1: I was never separated far enough from poor people to
Speaker 1: ever see myself outside of them, like in your like
Speaker 1: wherever I went except Artisa because Artisia had the Wu
Speaker 1: Tang niggas. Artisia had the East Coast sympathizes. When it
Speaker 1: came to music, that became their thing.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question. I know that this is
Speaker 3: jumping into the two thousands, but how did you Didn't
Speaker 3: you have a homie that thought of you from the
Speaker 3: Saint Lunatics? Yes?
Speaker 4: But why?
Speaker 1: But it wats like it's different because Watts is like
Speaker 1: this really weird connection to other black communities outside of
Speaker 1: La Like there was a time niggas in wicht I
Speaker 1: think it was no limit. Like so his older brothers,
Speaker 1: so Snoopy's older brothers, because that's how you talking about Junior.
Speaker 1: Junior used to wear the band aid on his eye,
Speaker 1: wear vocal all the time. His older brother changed his
Speaker 1: name to His name was Chocolate since he was little
Speaker 1: because he was dark as fuck, right, But he changed
Speaker 1: his name to Soldier Chok because of no limit. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then so, but I
Speaker 1: think Watts has this really black connection to all the
Speaker 1: other black places like the South, the Midwest. Like, so
Speaker 1: if it's niggas there, we identify with niggas from any
Speaker 1: poor party. But I don't know why. It's like the bait.
Speaker 1: We just identified with niggas. But Compton is different. Right,
Speaker 1: So even like I grew up having voc, I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I grew up having used damaged Carl kanin
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 3: I never cared because it was poor people right there.
Speaker 3: You know he told me about used. I didn't even
Speaker 3: know what that was.
Speaker 1: That was the script pants that looked like they were used,
Speaker 1: except they were brand new jackets we're.
Speaker 3: Wearing now with purple brand. Basically, No, it looked like ridgeings.
Speaker 1: It looks like clothing damage was the same way damaged damage.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I had all design and ship growing up.
Speaker 1: I never had to wear Chuck's quarte till I started
Speaker 1: buying my ship. Yes, right, But I also would dress
Speaker 1: it down. I would just have a sub chose to
Speaker 1: dress down. Yeah right, Like I had to bro, Like
Speaker 1: when I tell you I had Carl Knni Bro, I
Speaker 1: had to kral Kni with it. I had probably it
Speaker 1: was school years bro. Shout out to Olivia, rest her
Speaker 1: soul I love my mama because she was even though
Speaker 1: we grew up in in the ghetto. She was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you finna have it. I had to cal Kanad the
Speaker 1: original ship with the brass plate on the chest, nigga
Speaker 1: and I might have went the school my school shopping
Speaker 1: might have been five of those.
Speaker 3: But that was still some West Coast shit, though, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: No, No, no, that was money ship. That's black money.
Speaker 1: That was looking that was looking like tretch. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: black money, right, black money. Just look at it like this,
Speaker 1: that's black money, got you. I mean like those brands
Speaker 1: were the beginning of black money. Caral Kanad to me, now,
Speaker 1: I don't know it could be like because I think
Speaker 1: Sergio Tacini and all that ship was like Italian designers
Speaker 1: or something. But black money, initially on a mainstream level
Speaker 1: was Carl Kanikujie Kougie was black money. That's all the
Speaker 1: first black money. So all this ship Puff and Puff
Speaker 1: was doing because aver Rex is a white company. But yes,
Speaker 1: that was something. But I'm saying the black companies that
Speaker 1: first started, like Carl Kani being one of the first
Speaker 1: mainstream black designers that niggas was promoting his blackness and
Speaker 1: this is why you buy it. And they charged designer
Speaker 1: foob that's black money, wasn't it? Yeah, black money, So
Speaker 1: it's it's different.
Speaker 3: So so now I guess that's exactly what it was
Speaker 3: being black, because I loved all that ship. I didn't
Speaker 3: know it was mainstream, but I guess that's the thing
Speaker 3: that would look at it.
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of mainstream success culture like if that,
Speaker 1: if that, if you want to call that culture that
Speaker 1: was mainstream black, like we started that's the first time.
Speaker 1: And then obviously Jay comes with Rocker, where what's come
Speaker 1: with fat from Sean John? All of those followed, Karl
Speaker 1: Kanai and Fooble and all of these ideas.
Speaker 3: But that makes sense by you saying that was rich
Speaker 3: black attire.
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not I don't. I don't. So
Speaker 1: when I'm saying rich black, I mean like I mean,
Speaker 1: they were like mainstream black designers.
Speaker 3: Sure, but white kids wasn't wearing them yet. That was
Speaker 3: still in the hoods for a minute before it really
Speaker 3: kind of like.
Speaker 1: Sure it was. It was we powered it. Black people
Speaker 1: powered it. Because if you had if you had some
Speaker 1: money used from where we're from, or you was black.
Speaker 1: You powered it.
Speaker 4: So imagine being the Mexican kid doing that. Who was
Speaker 4: was able to do that?
Speaker 1: Well, you grew up in Inglewood, it's not That's my point.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm really careful with We had this
Speaker 1: conversation earlier. I don't like having it. But like, black
Speaker 1: culture is an overstated thing. There's very few things out
Speaker 1: are black culture. Like right, most of the things we
Speaker 1: referred to as black culture is poor street urban culture.
Speaker 1: M you know, I mean, like we talked about hip hop.
Speaker 1: We've had this conversation. It's some really respected minds people
Speaker 1: I respect Treaknas, those people that be like hip hop
Speaker 1: is black, like no, hip hop is street and anybody
Speaker 1: that was street at that time from that area was
Speaker 1: doing this shit. Now I'm not saying it wasn't probably
Speaker 1: one nigga that made it for me, but trust me,
Speaker 1: it was Spanish people to making people all that shit
Speaker 1: right close to.
Speaker 3: It, especially being on the East Coast you had the attack.
Speaker 1: They wasn't at that, but we were influenced by them.
Speaker 1: Like remember they Jewish people had the ghetto, so certain
Speaker 1: things passed from street culture to street culture. Like that's
Speaker 1: why you hear rappers with names like Capone. You hear rappers,
Speaker 1: you know, white people, nor Riega. You hear rappers like
Speaker 1: with different names from different walks of street life. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like those are not you know, black.
Speaker 1: You know, Black street life is not old, right, It's
Speaker 1: not like street life is old, but not Black street
Speaker 1: life not black, not not not you know, outlaw life
Speaker 1: is old, not black. Outlaw life black Like black people
Speaker 1: get such a bad rap, bro, and I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't like to try to, you know, do the comparison,
Speaker 1: but like, bro, black black, outlaw life ain't that old.
Speaker 1: That's not a like that's new. That shit ain't even
Speaker 1: one hundred years old. Outlaw life been going off for ever.
Speaker 1: Like the term gangs like in Americas New York, but
Speaker 1: before that, like outlaw gangs, cowboy gangs. That's where that
Speaker 1: title comes from. And that's why it's prominent on the West.
Speaker 1: People don't look at it like this. Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: game bankers ain't numb, but cowboys, that's it. Robin stage
Speaker 1: coaches and shit like that. That's all they are. They
Speaker 1: just that's why it's out here. The term gangs. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So again it's like we take
Speaker 1: a lot of the brunt for everything because we oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's part of the culture. It's not a
Speaker 1: part of the culture. It's a lot of black people.
Speaker 1: That why I grew up at again, why I grew
Speaker 1: up at the Richling Forums. I know how to ride
Speaker 1: a horse and swim when I was six seven years old,
Speaker 1: this affluent black communit. But soon as you cross the
Speaker 1: bridge that was next door to my house, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about twenty steps you back in the real world. This
Speaker 1: little shit ain't what it is. And I never lost that.
Speaker 1: And maybe my mom that was her deal too. She
Speaker 1: was like, yo, she was thinking about moving the Lakewood
Speaker 1: when she bought her house. She was like, now I
Speaker 1: want my kids to have a black experience. That means
Speaker 1: she wanted kids to have a poor and oppress experience.
Speaker 1: We might not be poor and oppress in this house,
Speaker 1: but your friends are going to be that way.
Speaker 5: And you know it's just y'all.
Speaker 1: Do Southgate.
Speaker 2: People always be like, oh, that's the Ridge site, and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, but the homies like from Watts say,
Speaker 2: but I remember being younger and being in Southgate and
Speaker 2: literally crossover the track, literally cross over the tracks and
Speaker 2: be like, wow, I Southgate is a poor place till
Speaker 2: you cross the watch. He'd be like, what.
Speaker 1: The fuck you just went to a fucking Africa? What
Speaker 1: just happened here to third world country?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, but that's how that's
Speaker 1: how each that LA looks at Southgate because Southgate is
Speaker 1: poor like in the grand skin of Los Angeles. But
Speaker 1: compared to these La, Southgate is some money.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: I Like if somebody moved from East LA to south Gate,
Speaker 1: they moved.
Speaker 3: But you know, it always tripped me out about about
Speaker 3: East La though, Like when I started going over there
Speaker 3: and I understood that it was gang infested, and you
Speaker 3: know that it was I guess quote unquote poor right.
Speaker 1: Quote unquote nigga East LA is poor.
Speaker 2: Still, well, okay, you could buy houses east to eighty
Speaker 2: east a lot of right now, there's houses in East
Speaker 2: Lafe for too eighty. You know a lot of where
Speaker 2: in East La it's a.
Speaker 4: Ship for to eighty.
Speaker 1: Still you don't want to move over there.
Speaker 2: I don't know what even even if you buy okay
Speaker 2: that it made you jump you didn't jump up and
Speaker 2: be like you know what, I'm finna go you still
Speaker 2: like to.
Speaker 4: But what trips me out?
Speaker 3: Though? Okay, let's say that that is true, true, or
Speaker 3: it is true right then I still used to trip
Speaker 3: out how big their houses were on DALs.
Speaker 1: They have some ship. That's cool, but that's not really
Speaker 1: what we am. We say, Yeah, so what part of
Speaker 1: EA were talking about the places that's really next door
Speaker 1: to each other that ain't had parking since the fifties?
Speaker 1: Like how you know how the rest of LA don't
Speaker 1: got parking now because everybody's there and everybody live on
Speaker 1: top of everybody and all that. This was like that,
Speaker 1: This was like that in the fifties there, Like remember
Speaker 1: like when we grew up at there was parking spaces,
Speaker 1: me and your whole life where we lived in Inglewood.
Speaker 1: Counter Wise, there was parking spaces. It was never no
Speaker 1: parking spaces since the fifties. Over there, the fucking fifties
Speaker 1: and sixties, there was no parking spaces.
Speaker 4: Park down down the hill they had.
Speaker 1: The park, it wasn't no fucking hill. That's that's a
Speaker 1: specific party. East l A is the real motherfucking deal.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out where you're talking about.
Speaker 1: What part of you gotta go through it. That's what
Speaker 1: I said. That sh it ain't all on no motherfucking.
Speaker 3: Is, because everything I see over there seems super gentrified. Now,
Speaker 3: like all I see are cafes and.
Speaker 1: Nah, you're talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah they changed the name of that. Yeah, they changed
Speaker 2: the name of that park area. They actually changed the
Speaker 2: name of that party.
Speaker 4: You start coming Heights is like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you gotta keep coming mores like because
Speaker 2: all of that was East l A by the seven
Speaker 2: ten freeway, all.
Speaker 1: Of that was East LA.
Speaker 3: Oh that's considered east.
Speaker 1: That's the real East LA.
Speaker 3: By the seventeen you're talking about it hit Terrace and
Speaker 3: by even there that's yeah, Hazard projects that backside of
Speaker 3: a cow state.
Speaker 1: We shot the Kanye video.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. I never considered that East. I
Speaker 3: thought that was already going into.
Speaker 1: Like that is. But that's a yeah. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you is those places are gingerfied. That's why,
Speaker 1: like nobody called those places Boyle Heights all the whole time,
Speaker 1: or the other place, Echo Park for a long time.
Speaker 1: I remember when it happened. I'm saying. What I'm telling
Speaker 1: you is when you start going there, that's not what
Speaker 1: we were talking about we was talking about East l A. No,
Speaker 1: like nobody black was ever scared to go to Boil Heights.
Speaker 1: Shout out to boy, he got some gangsters. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying you probably be okay. It wasn't as racist and
Speaker 1: Boil Heights. You East LA nigga, you know what's up?
Speaker 1: White fans like the real East LA, Like that's okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to all the East LA. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like remember again Mexicans. Yeah, Mexican Mexicans had the
Speaker 1: first street gang in LA. Yes, it's like thirties. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm saying to you there's this really super
Speaker 1: dope one culture on our side of the one ten Freeway.
Speaker 1: It's one coature Like I can go to Southgate, Bro,
Speaker 1: and it'll be okay. I used to go to bed
Speaker 1: Like I said, don't gonna be Bill guards can't be
Speaker 1: a bit racist. But I used to go there and
Speaker 1: it be cool. We have some gangs and play some basketball.
Speaker 1: It be cool. It's one culture. As long as you
Speaker 1: of the coaching. It can get racist. It has. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that. Yeah, I'm saying it has, right, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying anytime I went to East La. I was
Speaker 1: a maa thay unless I knew somebody and I still was.
Speaker 1: And you and you don't let that word nigga come out.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no. They know I've been over
Speaker 3: there and I did say it, and it was an issue.
Speaker 4: But what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: They used to refer to us any they used to
Speaker 3: work anyway as west side Mexicans.
Speaker 4: They used to say, like those are west.
Speaker 3: Side, like you could tell by the way.
Speaker 2: They even even east La. It's changed, it's changed recently.
Speaker 2: You said it over you just said it earlier. Another thing,
Speaker 2: low riding, it's still l a low slow bombs that's
Speaker 2: considered the other Mexicans or y'all be hopping the six four.
Speaker 1: But I used to talk ship about the other Mexicans.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know because.
Speaker 5: Bombs on the bombs slow cruise.
Speaker 1: We don't hop ship.
Speaker 4: Oh that makes sense, blackt hop it.
Speaker 1: And that's not just the complete truth because he was
Speaker 1: at the beginning of that too. But they talk shit
Speaker 1: because it costs more money to hop your shit.
Speaker 4: So if you had more money, you were food food basically.
Speaker 1: Well, you just was putting on like nobody likes.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes money, bro, you think you're upity, Well it's
Speaker 2: not up at the it's not they think you think you.
Speaker 1: They have to feel that way because they're holding on
Speaker 1: to the not havels, so they make it a cultural identity.
Speaker 1: We have to like you like poor people have to
Speaker 1: because you don't have anything else. That's why son as
Speaker 1: niggas get something else, they start dressing different. Niggas. I
Speaker 1: got some money.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. Do you think
Speaker 3: that still is relevant? I mean, obviously it is. And
Speaker 3: today I was talking to Jazz earlier. So Jazz is
Speaker 3: the person if you watch his Instagram right like funny ass,
Speaker 3: colorful dude, great personality, Yo, he can wrap his ass off.
Speaker 3: But he likes at one time, and you know, I'm
Speaker 3: sure it wasn't the only one. I would telling him like, oh,
Speaker 3: stop focusing on the people that are hating on you.
Speaker 3: Focus on people that you know support you. But now
Speaker 3: I'm wondering where those people. And we don't like to
Speaker 3: call it hate, but do you think they look at
Speaker 3: the way he dresses. He he has his own clothing line,
Speaker 3: you know, he presses his own shirts, and they look
Speaker 3: at it as like, you know, he not that he
Speaker 3: thinks he's better, but they feel like he's better and
Speaker 3: they have less. And that's why they feel like they
Speaker 3: because they'll come on his page and be like like
Speaker 3: if he posts something he says, oh man, you know
Speaker 3: doors are opening, you know things are going great.
Speaker 4: I'm getting to the next level, and somebody.
Speaker 3: Will come and be like, you ain't getting to no
Speaker 3: other level, Like what the fuck? Because I've never been that,
Speaker 3: you know me. Huh.
Speaker 1: He's black, he's black with a Spanish following. He's a
Speaker 1: target going for sure.
Speaker 3: Damn are the people leaving the comments Mexican or like
Speaker 3: Spanish or whatever? Yeah, ah, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3: So they just being racist.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not racist. It's like, yes it is,
Speaker 2: but yes, it's not like it's more it's deep.
Speaker 1: It's deep because let's always tell people talking is way
Speaker 1: different than you said. Always because me is deep. Because
Speaker 1: he makes people from he's going to Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: gonna make people uncomfortable. He represents something that I can't
Speaker 1: speak up.
Speaker 5: For the Hispanic Latino whatever without.
Speaker 1: Some of them on black size.
Speaker 5: I knew he was gonna flip and go back to them,
Speaker 5: like what niggas what are you talking about? Or I'll
Speaker 5: get hey, dog, you're always defending the blacks food.
Speaker 1: What's up with that ship? Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I'm always the fa I'm fucking black? What is he
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 3: I get that till this day, which is weird, you know,
Speaker 3: not weird, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean he was sure as a sellout, always defending the blacks.
Speaker 1: I love when they use the blacks.
Speaker 4: That ship is the.
Speaker 3: Blackie, bro.
Speaker 2: And he always said, I think it's because he like Nigerious,
Speaker 2: so he be like the blacks on the.
Speaker 1: Nigerians don't see hold up, yeah different, that's how they
Speaker 1: really feel. Damn sellout man, that's not And I know
Speaker 1: that's a tender spot for you right as a Mexican person,
Speaker 1: because but that's why they feel like that, bro, because
Speaker 1: people define a lot of like Mexican is defined in poverty.
Speaker 1: Black is defined in poverty. Everything that we forgive me
Speaker 1: this is niggas is gonna be on my head when
Speaker 1: I say this, but fuck these niggas. The truth we
Speaker 1: defined it in poverty. Think about it. Like most people
Speaker 1: who don't know shit about Mexicans or know the bare minimum,
Speaker 1: the number one food they gonna bring up is the
Speaker 1: poorest shit you can get in Mexico.
Speaker 3: That's not even a real food though.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just the poor shit.
Speaker 2: It's the way you put some shit together to make
Speaker 2: sure you fool you put you put all the starches.
Speaker 1: And the meats and shit together and you just be like,
Speaker 1: this is feel him up. It's cheap poor. So so
Speaker 1: again made a whole day over it. Yes we didn't exactly,
Speaker 1: Like poverty has created a day claim to day, Like
Speaker 1: that's the thing about that's dope about poor people and
Speaker 1: the influence that we can have. Right, It's like we
Speaker 1: celebrated so hard that people be like, damn, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: sleeping on these tacos. I need you know this tacos.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And that's how it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's that's like what we
Speaker 1: that's what so culturally, being black an American and being
Speaker 1: Mexican in American, you know, in America, being black in
Speaker 1: America and Mexican America, right, is literally defined by the poverty.
Speaker 1: Like don't nobody care about no rich nigga here. If
Speaker 1: that ain't from where we're from, they don't ain't nobody
Speaker 1: ain't nobody stop. Barac ain't styling up. He from Chicago.
Speaker 1: That's why niggas be like, oh, he's from Chicago, Like
Speaker 1: he lied and was like niggas really thought he was
Speaker 1: from Chicago.
Speaker 3: Where's he from?
Speaker 1: Like Hawaii?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: If Obama had just really laid out the real story,
Speaker 1: niggas would have not connected with him. It makes sense,
Speaker 1: like it'll be some niggas that's seen him and be like,
Speaker 1: yeah he but if he like nigga, everybody I know
Speaker 1: was like, he's from Chicago, So you know a nigga
Speaker 1: from Chicago as a boy.
Speaker 3: Well, that's funny that you're saying that too, because I've
Speaker 3: noticed that maybe a little bit more now because he
Speaker 3: tries to make it a point. But motherfuckers, wasn't really
Speaker 3: fucking with the rock like that.
Speaker 1: No, because because he not from he's not from where
Speaker 1: he's black, but he's like not from where we from black, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But think about it. Who
Speaker 1: you think is the most influential Mexican in all of
Speaker 1: the world, Like, excuse me, in all of America? Chapel,
Speaker 1: you know who the guy is, mister cartoon. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: I was in the fucking Allder part store of the
Speaker 1: day O'riley's This nigga got a line because of tire
Speaker 1: cleaners like arm roll waxes. He got a sidekickcuz had
Speaker 1: a sidekick when sidekicks was popping because got sh it's
Speaker 1: fucking mister cartoon. Bro. Because Mexican in America and Black
Speaker 1: in America is defined by poverty. He did the super
Speaker 1: bat car everything.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I never made it really like as a.
Speaker 1: Exactly That's what I've been doing. That's what I just
Speaker 1: was telling you.
Speaker 2: But everything we talk about culchally, I'm telling you your
Speaker 2: job is to represent poor people. And it's a trick
Speaker 2: because people tell me, you see the way I'm dressed.
Speaker 2: I'm dressed just like you, but there's a story behind me.
Speaker 1: And I thought this. Now, people always tell me, Bro,
Speaker 1: you fuck you mean you from skid row? What do
Speaker 1: you mean you did that? That's what people want.
Speaker 5: People want to hear that you lived on skid row
Speaker 5: for ten years.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck wants I have this? I have this
Speaker 1: conversation multiple times, Bro Kanye. People always ask me if
Speaker 1: somebody is a plant, Kanye would have been a plant.
Speaker 1: That's you know. I love Kanye's in my top five.
Speaker 1: Kanye is the first nigga that did not grow up.
Speaker 1: But because he says Chicago, we're like, oh, he like
Speaker 1: one of us. But nigga, Chicago is like a black
Speaker 1: place that has levels. Nigga's a wealthy Chicago Black people
Speaker 1: just like it's a poor one. See that ain't out here,
Speaker 1: ain't no wealthy. The closest is a therer and it
Speaker 1: ain't wealthy. Like they got some wealthy in Chicago for
Speaker 1: black people. They got middle class and they got poverty.
Speaker 1: So when he said Chicago, niggas like, oh, you got
Speaker 1: to shy.
Speaker 3: He says south Side Chicago even.
Speaker 1: Crazier because you're like, ooh right, But bro, nobody's ever
Speaker 1: been intrigue with Eddie Winslow. Nobody's ever been intrigued with theo.
Speaker 3: Huxtable until never wasn't I'm saying until Kanye.
Speaker 1: No, they didn't know that. Nobody realized. Nobody realized he
Speaker 1: was theo Huxtable. Nobody realized he was Eddie Winslow. Nobody
Speaker 1: realized that.
Speaker 2: They all thought he said south Side Chicago, We're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: he dropped out of college too.
Speaker 1: Oh, this nigga kind of smart and he from South
Speaker 1: Side Chicago.
Speaker 3: That makes me think of that episode on The Fresh
Speaker 3: Prince when Carlton went to MacArthur Park.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that he was hanging with the gangs
Speaker 1: and he was zeus and them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like what they call we like seat low
Speaker 3: and he was trying hard to be from the hood
Speaker 3: because he was.
Speaker 1: Loved yo Ma. So so again it's like, you have
Speaker 1: to represent hip hop is all about representation, and it's
Speaker 1: about representing poor people like it don't have to be poor.
Speaker 1: But it's densely populated, crime written communities. That's not a
Speaker 1: lot of affluent, middle class communities. Crime written that ain't
Speaker 1: opportunities are present. So you know, there's not a huge
Speaker 1: need for crimes when there's jobs and opportunities and success
Speaker 1: in view. You know what I'm saying that you don't
Speaker 1: need to really commit crimes when you know, if it's
Speaker 1: a thousand jobs at this place down there warehouse that
Speaker 1: you could buy a house with, crime is not needed.
Speaker 1: I mean, so hip hop is street urban culture. Street
Speaker 1: urban being densely populated, crime written communities densely populated that
Speaker 1: means huge populations in these small places. That's riddle in crime.
Speaker 1: It don't mean you have to be a criminal. It
Speaker 1: don't mean you got to be a criminal. It don't
Speaker 1: mean it just means crime in that poverty shaped your life,
Speaker 1: your livelihood. Now it might be the slang you use.
Speaker 1: You might not have stolen nothing from nobody, but the
Speaker 1: slang you use, it's just both. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why I've always told you it means to go easy.
Speaker 1: Like I get it. You know, maybe you kind of
Speaker 1: got bullied, you know what I mean. I don't mean
Speaker 1: bully bag, because you could stand up for yourself, but
Speaker 1: maybe you felt that pressure. But it was just poor
Speaker 1: people like damn dog, Like you get a choice, and
Speaker 1: you didn't see it that way. You're like, yo, you
Speaker 1: get a choice. You mean you don't have to go
Speaker 1: get the nineteen dollar shoes. You don't have to get
Speaker 1: the ten dollar pans, Like somebody gave you an alternative,
Speaker 1: like nigga. The people where we grew up at, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice. That was it's a problem. So
Speaker 1: they had to be like yo, look at him, he
Speaker 1: got a choice. He could get what he wants. You know,
Speaker 1: they gonna be feeling lower and less than because you
Speaker 1: live next door to the make that a bitch, you
Speaker 1: I mean, and we got a bad habit and as
Speaker 1: much shit as you talk, A lot more people made
Speaker 1: fun of poor people than they made fun of you.
Speaker 1: A lot of more people made fun of the shit
Speaker 1: they was wearing then they made fun of you. Even
Speaker 1: where I lived at, everybody was poor for the most part.
Speaker 1: Now I lived in the middle class part the forums.
Speaker 1: But soon as you cross the bridge which was next
Speaker 1: to mo like you see where this walkway at, I
Speaker 1: walk out this door twenty feet I'm in the Casion block. Poverty.
Speaker 1: This ain't no middle class, ain't nobody. That's some shit.
Speaker 1: Niggas on drugs, fucked up niggas would talk shit and
Speaker 1: make fun of niggas because they didn't have Jordan's like
Speaker 1: they didn't live next door to niggas.
Speaker 3: But that's also and that's what me and Jazz were
Speaker 3: talking about this the other day, you know, because we're
Speaker 3: trying to put together this podcast, sneaker podcast I told
Speaker 3: you about. We were talking about that was also during
Speaker 3: the time too, where when you floss like that, that's
Speaker 3: why you got jacks for your.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because motherfuckers, And it's not just floss and it's
Speaker 2: just like, Nigga, I can't get this right. And it's
Speaker 2: crazy you said that because Means told me the other
Speaker 2: day he said, be careful what you're putting out there,
Speaker 2: and he said, cause niggas is watching you. And you
Speaker 2: touched under the second and going so that you you
Speaker 2: be out taking your wife to dinner. You got gold
Speaker 2: chains on your neck, you got two whips, you dressed nice,
Speaker 2: you forget fresh as shoes, you always fucking You're not
Speaker 2: showing off, You're just sharing this shit. But then you
Speaker 2: might say something for that nigga to be like, fuck this, nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this nigg.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it ain't just
Speaker 1: somebody like want to see you down as much as
Speaker 1: somebody want to come up. If you make yourself a
Speaker 1: come up publicly, yeah, if you make yourself a come
Speaker 1: up ship, motherfuck, don't come up right man. I didn't
Speaker 1: been able to afford a thirty million row lessons. It's
Speaker 1: over like I didn't been able to buy a rolex
Speaker 1: every year I've been a rapper. I could have bought
Speaker 1: a rolex afforded it. But why am I giving nigga
Speaker 1: a chance to make ten thousand that way off me.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting that ten thousand off me, nigga, because
Speaker 1: I'm not going for that. You want to have to
Speaker 1: come get yours. You have to come work or something.
Speaker 3: You want to know something what I do like about
Speaker 3: today's society. And here's the thing though, right, like when
Speaker 3: you dress a certain way, like I've learned to do
Speaker 3: that shit like when I go certain places with G.
Speaker 3: Now even though I know I'm I'm I'm good right
Speaker 3: because I got the homie with me, anything can still happen, right,
Speaker 3: But I've noticed when I've gone places with him that
Speaker 3: he takes me certain places in watts or different areas,
Speaker 3: and they look at you a certain way. Now I'm
Speaker 3: with G. So obviously they're not gonna, you know, do nothing.
Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying, Like, so I don't
Speaker 3: go here and there.
Speaker 4: You'd be the lick possibly, but you don't have to be. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I don't. Well, I mean they could try.
Speaker 1: I'd I'd be offended if they didn't. You if you
Speaker 1: if if you got on one hundred thousd dollar word
Speaker 1: for jewelry and you come to watch and niggas don't
Speaker 1: rob you I'm mad that they didn't. Ain't got a bitch, and.
Speaker 4: That's what you could change your life. But see nowadays
Speaker 4: it's more so like if I go like this, this
Speaker 4: is timple, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's fair.
Speaker 4: Pretty normal. I'm not doing nothing, got it. You start
Speaker 4: wearing multiple chains and it's definitely pour.
Speaker 1: Enough people that that right there for sure get you
Speaker 1: two nights to dinner. That's probably a real chain. That
Speaker 1: might be about one hundred and fifty dollars. But this
Speaker 1: right here, so you just don't need to be going
Speaker 1: places in that type of shit on where niggas can't
Speaker 1: afford to buy dinner. That's the simple. This is what
Speaker 1: I've been telling rappers forever, like only like all them
Speaker 1: changed you're wearing. Just don't go nowhere when niggas need
Speaker 1: to eat dinner, Cause niggas should really get dinner off
Speaker 1: your neck. If you're gonna, if you're gonna take your
Speaker 1: ass around these poor people, and you know, these niggas poor,
Speaker 1: and you ain't offering dinner, you should be dinner.
Speaker 3: On the flip side, I know, like you know, shout
Speaker 3: out the home and Beezy he's fa mingle with I'm
Speaker 3: gonna fuck get a lot fucking money. He'd be in
Speaker 3: the hood, but he'd be ready for everything.
Speaker 1: They come with it too, But it's not even at
Speaker 1: that point. Why even wear that.
Speaker 3: Because because people like to show off to people.
Speaker 1: Which is fucked up.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: That's people credit hip hop bro for a thousand things
Speaker 2: that I don't think fit like, Oh, you know.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is appropriate. People on drugs. Niggas been on
Speaker 1: drugs since R and B music, since disco. Fuck you
Speaker 1: talking about niggas for sure gonna get high. Oh, violence
Speaker 1: is violence. Niggas been shooting each other since the beginning
Speaker 1: of the time. I had nothing to do with no
Speaker 1: fucking gangster rap records. The one thing that hip hop
Speaker 1: really did really bad will spread the culture of flossing.
Speaker 1: And you never take that shit to Beverly Hills. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't even there, But you won't take it to the projects.
Speaker 1: You can take that shit over. You got this one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of gold on you
Speaker 1: in somewhere when niggas can't even afford to eat tonight.
Speaker 1: That shit fucked up. Just the mental the mental fortitude
Speaker 1: to even to do that. The audacity, that's what niggas
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