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Speaker 3: I'm here for those who really believe in the American process,

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Speaker 3: all of us. Street Shot No Chaser with your girl

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Speaker 3: test on figure Out on the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: The host of straight Shot No Chaser on the Black

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Speaker 3: Effect Podcast Network on iHeartRadio, I am excited today. You

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Speaker 2: How are you great? Thanks and thank you so much

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Speaker 3: So it's Amazon Prime not a viable option. Is there

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Speaker 3: the direction that makes the industry better, that's where I'm

437
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Speaker 3: sure trying to get, you know, a few filmmakers to

438
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: just understand the power that they have.

439
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you, so let's do it cool? Do

440
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: what's call you? Yeah?

441
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: So you've been a great You've been great, and I

442
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: want to say that publicly, you've been great with sharing information.

443
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people don't share information. They

444
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: want to know, Like you said, what's your agenda. What

445
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: are you trying to get from me? What are you

446
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: trying to But I just honestly, I just love organizing.

447
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: I love the power of it. I love storytelling.

448
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: I made it.

449
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: No, it's secret to you that I do want my

450
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: project up. So I want to know what does a

451
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: good producer look like? What does a good director look like?

452
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: What is research? Is important? You just don't throw one

453
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars in the wind. You want to make

454
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: sure you know that you understand the business. Education is important.

455
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: So that's one reason. But secondly, there's power in storytelling.

456
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: If I can't you know, if people don't, Yeah, people

457
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: don't want to hear my voice. They may hear my

458
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: spoken word, they may hear my rap, they may hear

459
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: my story. It could be a fiction story, but still

460
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: have an underlying theme, you know, of what is it

461
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: that we should be looking at? In your movie Cream

462
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: that I watched, even though it wasn't about politics, you're

463
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: still talking about gun violence in the community. You're still

464
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, how do people get from point

465
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 3: A to point B? How do people get out of poverty?

466
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: Those are the kind of things that still have a

467
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 3: political conversation that can still come out of a film,

468
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: And to me, that is what truly makes us powerful.

469
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: If we're kind of you know, at least having the

470
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: conversation or knowing the conversation should be had. We have

471
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: a voice, just have to learn and it yep, for sure.

472
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: And I tell people don't You don't have to worry

473
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: about being political. That's why I'm an organizer.

474
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: That's what I do.

475
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: Entertainers are finding out. I just posted today where t

476
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, y'all got it. I don't want

477
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: to when it starts hurting me, I can't help help y'all.

478
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: And I get it.

479
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't expect people to do what I do. I've

480
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: tried to walk away from this little so many times.

481
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 3: I really have tried to walk away from this, but

482
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: I keep getting called back. So I don't ask people

483
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: to be in politics. I don't ask people to be

484
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: a politician. I don't ask people to take hard stances.

485
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: All I ask you to do is know the power

486
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: that you have, and that you have something so powerful

487
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: by just having fifty thousand people tapped into you, you know,

488
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: on a daily basis, there's a lot you know that

489
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: you have. And I'm proud of you, brother.

490
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I'm working trying to get it together. Yeah,

491
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

492
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Now I'll ask you this. Somebody's wanting to do a film.

493
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: I've noticed something about you that I really commend. I

494
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: see you support a lot of other filmmakers. I don't

495
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: always see other filmmakers posting other people's stuff, but I've

496
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: noticed that about you, and I wanted to name that

497
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: that I see you're always promoting other talent. You're always

498
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: promoting other filmmakers. I would assume that's how you naturally are,

499
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: But I also would take note that I think a

500
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: good producer would know how to partner with other people

501
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: because you might be a producer on you can be

502
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 3: a producer on anybody's project, right, Like I can hire

503
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: you to say I want you to be my producer,

504
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: but I'm going to have this director, this director. So

505
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: part of your job is knowing how to work with others. Again,

506
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: that's a politician trait, knowing how to work on both.

507
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: Sides of the out.

508
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: Tell me why you do that, other than it's just

509
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: the right thing to do, all right.

510
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: So for me, I believe that everyone can win, right,

511
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: everyone has the ability to create something great. And my

512
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: thing is if I like what you created, I'm gonna

513
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote you know, no matter no matter where

514
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: you're at, I'm gonna post you. If you're on Netflix,

515
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: so you're on to be, if you're on YouTube, if

516
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: you have something my company, I'm gonna post every Cathle.

517
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: If you're an actor and you reach out to me,

518
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you the steps of hey, you

519
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: should do this, you should do this, you should do this.

520
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I may not use you, but I'm gonna give you

521
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: the steps that you could use to make your own way.

522
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people on and say, hey,

523
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, put me in a movie. It's like, I

524
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: can't put you in a movie. You gotta put yourself

525
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: in the movie. I could bring you there, but then

526
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: you gotta know the take. He scause, you ain't gonta

527
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: just convince me. I'm gonna have a direction. I'm gonna

528
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: have a vping. I may have other producers like you

529
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: have Tonvince. So then so I'm not gonna me to

530
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: push you.

531
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: Right. I can get you there, but you better gets

532
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: yourself to think.

533
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: So for me, like I said, I want everyone to

534
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: win I never thought about what you said being politically correct.

535
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: My fault was a politician, and Hay and I have

536
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: been politicians in the streets and times, but I never

537
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: thought about that's why I do. That's that's never been

538
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: in my in my thought process.

539
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: But I have to This is what you naturally do.

540
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I mean, And one reason why I work with a

541
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: lot of people from the streets. I'm from the street, Like,

542
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: that's what we naturally do. If I was in the

543
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: legal game or whatever I was doing, I'm trying to

544
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: put pieces together, you know, I'm trying to make sure.

545
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: That's what I tell people that don't understand a lot

546
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: about gang culture, Like if you ever made money and gang,

547
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: cause you're not just working just with crips or just

548
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: with blood peoplen't know, you work with everybody. Whatever you

549
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: need to do in order to move that money, in

550
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: order to move that muscle and move that work. Whatever

551
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: it is you're piecing things together. You have enough to

552
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: set aside, set aside my ego, set aside my pride,

553
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: and how do we win? And so that's just basic

554
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: street one on one, O G left. But there's levels

555
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: of that, because if you just on the corner and

556
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: you just don't know, and all you know is one thing,

557
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: all about me, me, me, Then I know you're not

558
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: putting together no big projects. If you're putting together big

559
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: projects and dealing with big money, then yeah, you are working.

560
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: I want the best of the best. That's why I've

561
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: been having conversations with multiple people, not just one person.

562
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: I want to know who would be the best director

563
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: for this, who will be the best producer for this.

564
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: That's why I'm naming what you do. I notice that

565
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm watching that, I'm seeing.

566
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: How you move.

567
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: I like to see how people move, and I tell

568
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: people all the time, watch how people move. It's not

569
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: always like just on the surface.

570
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: I like to see.

571
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 3: Okay, so he knows how to partner, you know how

572
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: to get stuff done. He's going to be able to

573
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: find the right this or that, or you don't be

574
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: able to put things together. The mindset of knowing how

575
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: to work collaboratively. And that's what I would say a

576
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: lot of times when we get a lot of brothers

577
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: are sisters that come from the streets and they get

578
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: into music or film, and that mindset of my way

579
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: is a highway, and I can't work with nobody, you

580
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: won't be successful. You have to know how to put

581
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: the right people in the room to have the right conversations.

582
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: And everybody got a role to play. And that's what

583
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: push the Line is all about. If you look at

584
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: my logo, you'll see one person pushing the ped, the YOUU,

585
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: the S, the H, and then there's a child on

586
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: the side watching. It's because each one of us have

587
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: our one job, our one role, and if you just

588
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: focus on what you're supposed to do, I'm gonna be

589
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: the producer and I'm gonna put it all together.

590
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Just push the P.

591
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: Don't worry about what the U is doing and the

592
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: S is doing and the H is doing. Just do

593
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: your part and I'm gonna put this together and we're

594
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: gonna push the line. So I look at that mentality

595
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: and I wanted to name that. I got there from

596
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: the streets, I got there from the military. I got

597
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: that from my mom being an entrepreneur. So I wanted

598
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: to know that. I want you to know.

599
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: I see that.

600
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: I peeped that, and I think it's dope.

601
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: That's dope. I gotta watch some quotes, yea be the

602
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: topic game gaming up. Yeah, I'm gamed up. That's yeah,

603
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: how do you move?

604
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: And so I think there's a lot of people that

605
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: I've watched this business who have great brands, great talent, uh,

606
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: some of which you've even promoted, but they don't know

607
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: how to work collaborative with people. Collaborative and so you

608
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: can have the best project ever. But if you don't

609
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: know how to work with nobody, and it's all about you,

610
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: and you're always talking just about you and how much

611
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: money you're making, and just you and you and you

612
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: and you and you and you, you won't last long,

613
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: no matter how good, no matter how good the money is,

614
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: you just won't last. It's just not sustainable. That's just

615
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: the bottom line. So that's what happens in politics. People

616
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: have to learn how to work across the aisle. If

617
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: you want to be sustainable. Now, if you just want

618
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: a good ride and you just want to use in

619
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: the street sense, you just want to sell this or

620
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: that every now and then, and excuse my French, be

621
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: nigga rich cool. But if you want to be wealthy

622
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: and you want to be a king, you want to

623
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: be a real player, you want to talk about real weight,

624
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: You want to move whole neighborhoods, move whole cities. Then yeah,

625
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: you got to put your ego to the side and

626
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: learn how to work with other people. So I have

627
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: definitely not paid attention on how you move. And I

628
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: also want to know that you being in New York,

629
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Speaker 3: I want to name that because there is this mindset

630
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: of the New York cocky attitude only New York's way.

631
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: And I've noticed how you have commended, promoted, and supported

632
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: other regions and that's a big thing too.

633
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: I give credit what credit was doing. So if don't

634
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: beef enough, be that.

635
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Some of these other regions that showed me some different

636
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: things like and again I think I might have spoke

637
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: this with someone. It's just like if you look at music,

638
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh fift these great chants on Detroit, Nikki

639
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: and French had to do it down south and get

640
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: with dead and then they blew up and came back

641
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: to New York. It's my city. It's a beautiful city.

642
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: But the competition rate and the the I beside you

643
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: rate is just kind of crazy.

644
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

645
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: It happens in other cities, but I think the other cities, right,

646
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: if we have something like in another city, if they

647
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: have a reward show or something else, still gonna support

648
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: each other. In New York, it could be like, oh,

649
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the neggas, that's the ops, or that's whatever.

650
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a little bit chee uh. It's

651
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: a little bit chew over the top because so many great, beautiful,

652
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: talented people within this city and within this tri state

653
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: area that I guess there's too many eagles for everyone

654
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: to just come together and just like let's rock out.

655
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: It's so interesting to though, because when I talk to

656
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: people in other regions they say the same thing. And

657
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: even when i'm politics every single time, look, they'll say, oh,

658
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: it's different here, we don't get along here. I tell

659
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: people that, literally, it's literally the same story everywhere.

660
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: There are levels to it.

661
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: Though some cities are more welcoming, like in Atlanta, because

662
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: again you talking about a city that's sixty seventy percent

663
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: black and black Mecca, you know, different mindset, but they

664
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: still there's still people that say the same thing. I

665
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: try to tell people it really is the same everywhere,

666
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: but there are levels to it. I would certainly agree that,

667
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: but even people in the short they're like, no, it's

668
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: cut throw don't about this crew, don't want to work

669
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: this crew. This crew, don't want to work that crew.

670
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: So I've heard it. I've heard in Atlanta, I hear

671
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: it everywhere. Every single time I organized across this country.

672
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: They all say, no, it's different here, tells it's different.

673
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling you here. They just don't try to tell

674
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: people it's really not. It really is everywhere. Yes, it's

675
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: just finding some real ones no matter where you live.

676
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: So if that means I got one reel, one in

677
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: New York, one in LA, because people obviously say La

678
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: is cut throat, in Hollywood is cut throat, and so

679
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: you know these stories, So I think where we are

680
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: with it, just like Gideon's Army, And again back to organizing,

681
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: organizing one on one. I just need a few, three hundred.

682
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't need ten thousand and gideons are you know

683
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: through ten thousand. I just need three hundred. If I

684
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: can get three hundred real ones, no matter where they are,

685
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: no matter what region, wherever they come from, and we

686
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: can move past where somebody's living and move to where

687
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: we're trying to go collective as a unit and not

688
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: waiting on everybody, just taking a few of the real

689
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 3: ones that I think we we were onto something here.

690
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: Oh I agree with that. I agree with yeah, putting together.

691
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. Yeah, it's already together. Yeah, you

692
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: and I right now, it's together. That's what I'm saying.

693
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: This together. People say, well, how well, good luck, good No,

694
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: it's together. Now, this conversation. Now it's together. Now it's

695
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: you and I talking. It's together.

696
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: We can't wait on and see that's the thing about politics,

697
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: You're I'm always going to be doing this until they

698
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: lay my body down. There is no end solution, there

699
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: is no this is the end of the road. And

700
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: this is what you on the phone call with me

701
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: one our partners last week, and it's like, what what

702
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: does it look like? You know, what is the end

703
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: the game?

704
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: What is the solution? And when I tell people there's not.

705
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: One, that's what people say, Oh damn, well, why I

706
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: want to be a part of some the insolute surprised.

707
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: That's what working injustice is all about. That's why people

708
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: fall off. That's why people say Ice que hey, yeah,

709
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: black agenda, black agenda, black agenda. And as soon as

710
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: they started bowing, he was done. That's why Tip said, hey,

711
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: you know what y'all got this, y'all got it. I done,

712
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: did what I'll do. But now y'all, now y'all fucking

713
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: with my family.

714
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: Y'all got it.

715
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: That's why Lavell Crawford said this week, I'm not gonna

716
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: stand up here for black people for what when I

717
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: know I'm be by myself. See what entertainers are finding

718
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: out his This is a business that's all about applause,

719
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: that's not about a faults. Then aerturn is like entertainer's

720
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: like being applause as long as they're clapping, and as

721
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: long as everything's fine, and as long as long as

722
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: the seats are full, as long as they say yeah,

723
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: that's right, tell them they're all in. But the minute

724
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: it goes down, which is where we are now, the

725
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: minute the high from the George Floyd goes down, the

726
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 3: member from the minute people get complacent, the minute people

727
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: are no longer talking, the minute now that you have

728
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: to take consequences for the decisions you've made, and now

729
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: they're on top of you and your family and trying

730
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: to destroy it. The minute that all of they come,

731
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: that's when I get to step in and say, tell

732
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: some figure os here I've been there the whole time.

733
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 3: So what I've been asking people to do is, since

734
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: you're not gonna do it, support somebody that does. Because

735
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here. I know there's no ending to it.

736
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: I get that.

737
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: I know there's no ending. There's just small pieces of progress.

738
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: That's I just have one job, a little bit of progress,

739
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: a little bit of progress. If I think there's always

740
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: going to be a solution, I know we're gonna get

741
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: this done. It's gonna be done, then I will get

742
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: out the game.

743
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: It's moving.

744
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: It's a small piece by piece, and I know people

745
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: don't have the patience, for the time, for the money

746
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: for it.

747
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: I get it.

748
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: But I just ask just support people like me because

749
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm in it whether and I don't want to be

750
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: in and I promise you I don't. I try to

751
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: walk away from it every chance I get a look.

752
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: I really do.

753
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: But if I can just get up you, I swear

754
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: to God, I do.

755
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: I really do.

756
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: I really do.

757
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: I worked for ten of the largest corporations in the world.

758
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: I had a staff in firm with three hundred employees.

759
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: I've won Orlando Business Journal twice. I've won three other

760
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: business awards. I do well in business. I do not

761
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: have to do politics.

762
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: I just don't.

763
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: But it's what i'm called to.

764
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: It's what I'm called to do. So it really is.

765
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: And man, I'm serious, it's sometimes it's not worth it.

766
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: The math, don math, The solution's not there. You don't

767
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: get to the ending. It's not a big production that

768
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: at the end you get to watch a movie and

769
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: see the credits and get credit for your work and

770
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: everybody feels good and you go on that way. It's

771
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: a movie that never ends, a movie that you may

772
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: not ever get credit for, a movie that may nobody

773
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: may not watch. A movie that damn show, don't expect

774
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: no standing ovation, just a long movie that just goes

775
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: on and on and on and on and on and

776
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: on and on.

777
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: They need to put more respect on your day. They

778
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: shall do a movie that I love that analogy.

779
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: A movie that I'm walking in every dark room where

780
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: they say don't go walk in, don't go when I

781
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: go anyway, you know, walking down every dark alley, looking

782
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: behind every knowing, damn well, I shouldn't be years and

783
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: I poured me and I'm still looking, going back in

784
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: the burning building and saving somebody knowing that it don't

785
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: make no sense. That's what this work is about.

786
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: That's doe it is. I just I appreciate, well I

787
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: got you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

788
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: And I and I say that not to you know,

789
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: not to get the applause, but I just want people

790
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: to know how important it is. And I get down myself.

791
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: And you've been helping I do I do.

792
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: I got on social media like two or three weeks.

793
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: It was just over the first time I ever disabled

794
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: my accounts because I just needed time to like reset,

795
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: I needed to make sense. It's hard when people are

796
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: asking every day, where's your where I need I need you,

797
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: I need you, I need you, I need you, I

798
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: need to test?

799
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: What TELLT? What do TELLT? We'll do? What do we

800
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: do next? It's a lot.

801
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: It's very stressful, it's very lonely. It's a lonely business.

802
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: And then you think, well, shit, they didn't care if

803
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King died broke, so who

804
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: am I? So you're constantly, you know, juggling that with

805
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: the urge to serve, you know, and so it's a lot.

806
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: So I just want to thank you publicly for becoming

807
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: a new associate in my life that I've been able

808
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: to pick up the phone and ask about the business

809
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: and learn about the business. Because I do want to

810
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: parlay into you know, telling some storytelling, especially in politics.

811
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

812
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's on to be somewhere, but I haven't

813
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: seen it. I do want to be able to bring

814
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: give my constituents something that they can enjoy and even

815
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: though it's fiction, tell a lot of truth on what

816
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: happens behind the scenes in politics. And I just haven't

817
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: seen it done. And the damn sure and been done

818
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: my way because I mixed the streets with real life politics.

819
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it. And thank you for you know,

820
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: being up just an open, open person, open book and

821
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: just sharing so much information with me. I hope one

822
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: day you turn that into something like training or maybe

823
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: training people how to make films or you know, you

824
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: have so much wisdom that could be something you can

825
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: package up in charge, you know, for as well.

826
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: So we looked into that. Are you really definitely all sir?

827
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: You know, like I said before, you know you pointing

828
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: me in direction again as far as like we can

829
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: following from the Facebook and.

830
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: Having that audience and then you open my eyes to

831
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: so much more. So you know, now I might have

832
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: to be called and you you ain't gonna be follow

833
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: with me. That's right, No, we're gonna work together. I

834
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: appreciates together.

835
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: What do you have coming up that people should be

836
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: downloading now that you have out? And then what's coming up?

837
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: So what's out now is the pair White Horse Cream.

838
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm better than my last all best on to be

839
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: where you married me. It's getting ready to be distributed,

840
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: uh through Homesteade so that it'll be on two and

841
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: we have Glow and sin Wells their production and then

842
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: that's just finishing. So I'm getting ready to try to

843
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: put it dead together. You know, I'm trying to work

844
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: something now with you. I guess, uh, to help push

845
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: that movie. We got the Late Lucas then, so you

846
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: know we gotta.

847
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Give me to push it. Give me in the movie

848
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: put that on. Well, the movie's already done.

849
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely that's right. I'm getting I'm getting you

850
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: into movies that that that's coming. And don't worry, I

851
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: got your trouble.

852
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: We definitely give marketing because I want people to see me. Oh,

853
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: we definitely, we definitely gonna have that. We won't get you.

854
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I appreciate it, but yeah no, we'll definitely.

855
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: So any way I can support. That's why I have

856
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: you on here now. So anyway anything you have.

857
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: And blending or even me having on any of your show, yeah,

858
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: you are. You are icon, you are living legend. I

859
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: didn't know who I was talking to you. When I

860
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: was talking to you know, I stopped doing my I

861
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: reached out and I was like, oh.

862
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but I appreciate.

863
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 3: I girl, girl, that came from nothing. When I mean nothing,

864
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: I mean my family wasn't in this business. Nobody put

865
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: me on, you know, I didn't marry into it somebody

866
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: to say, hey, you know what I say, just literally

867
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Speaker 3: just my mouth just talking and keep talking, keep talking,

868
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: keep opening my mouth over and over and over and

869
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: over and over and keeps speaking up. And that's just

870
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Speaker 3: led from one thing to the next to the next,

871
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Speaker 3: to the next to the next. So so I'm excited

872
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Speaker 3: about what God has.

873
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: For all of us.

874
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Speaker 3: I continue to keep you in prayer, and as like

875
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: I said, anything I could do, I'm serious about really

876
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: trying to bring some attention though to what black film making.

877
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: You know, I Deon Taylor's a great fir friend of mine.

878
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Speaker 3: I admire him a lot. You know what he's doing

879
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: in Hollywood is a black silmmaker.

880
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Well he's great. Yeah, I would, I would my being

881
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: on that set Saturday. Yeah, yeah, he's great.

882
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a missing opportunity for

883
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: what you guys are doing well and that needs highlighted.

884
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: And so any way I can be a part of

885
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: that conversation to move it away from just talking about

886
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: the bloopers and the fun and all of that, but

887
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: actually really talking about what you guys are doing. I

888
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: want to be a part of that. I want to

889
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: make sure that I'm listed as one.

890
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: Of the part I believe we got some some dope

891
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: content you have, uh uh you know Dennis Reed, you

892
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Speaker 2: have May Robinson, you got move By, you know, uh

893
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: be with True Life Films, when you publishing with sin

894
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: you got some pretty good dope.

895
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Speaker 3: Uh.

896
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: It's people that I haven't even you know, Burder Pain,

897
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: meet him, Unroll, Chrystal dal I mean you got some

898
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: dope people.

899
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Speaker 2: We just stayed you know.

900
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Uh think this author Sullivan on instead about five or

901
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: six moves out and thank Richard the hood. But you

902
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: got some dope people that we want some dope, you know.

903
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: And now you know, uh deon his buddies might be

904
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: seventh figures. You know, our buddies is not that high.

905
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Oh man.

906
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I think we do a great job. You know, this

907
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: is what we have to work with. And I think

908
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: we give a great product to the people to watch.

909
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: And we just gotta keep watching and keep supporting. If

910
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: it don't cost nothing, you know.

911
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

912
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: And if and if you're and if you're really that

913
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: wrapped up in what we're doing when it goes on Amazon,

914
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: PROMI or subject beforehead, yo, spend that money to say

915
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Speaker 1: it beforehand.

916
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is truly the American dream. I just is

917
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: I just see so much. Maybe that's what I need

918
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: to do. Maybe I need to do it too, be documentary.

919
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: I got put the I'm sorry that she does that thing.

920
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: I gotta put the DC maam.

921
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, yes, yeah, shout out to her shut out.

922
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Speaker 3: Yes we're gona mentioned thirty. Shout out to glend Tattoo Manage.

923
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Speaker 1: Nine parents, Bro, I got a screech for you, man,

924
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man, brother out have a brother

925
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: out and see if you look at me, I need

926
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Speaker 1: them forces.

927
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he can hand it.

928
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna sit on the show and say here, okay,

929
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: I'll make you absolutely Yeah. No, but thank you again.

930
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: See that's what I'm saying.

931
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: You're always pumping up other people and putting other people

932
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: in the mix. And I just commend that. I just

933
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: I just commended.

934
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: It just shows that not only are you just a

935
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: great producer, but just just a great man. You know.

936
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

937
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, listen that it's one thing I learn and

938
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: you to be great, you'd be better be along great people.

939
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

940
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: So there's some great people out here, and if I

941
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: want to be great, I need to be a round

942
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: thing to give what they got, so I actually be

943
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: everything and give it to the next person that wants

944
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Speaker 1: to bear whiles and rats.

945
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

946
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: So again, look, thank you so much for joining me.

947
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: We spend a little bit of time together, so much

948
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: more we could talk about. People will continue to see

949
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: us work together. I want to promote you know, whatever

950
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: it is you're doing, you are truly the example of

951
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: what the American dream is.

952
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: And let's go get it.

953
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: Not wait on nobody, but just go get it. I

954
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: just salute that all the way is just It warms

955
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: my heart. We cannot wait on Hollywood, we cannot wait

956
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: on executives, we cannot wait on people to give us

957
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: a green light.

958
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: We got to figure out.

959
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: How green like this shit ourselves. And so as an entrepreneur,

960
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: I just salute you. It has inspired me to say, Okay,

961
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: let me my project, let me get my project going.

962
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: My thing's always been a time thing, you know, time

963
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 3: and trying to do so many different projects at one time.

964
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: So I just salute you, brother, and I'm here to

965
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: support you.

966
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: And you always have. Any time you want to say.

967
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: TESLM, I want to do a podcast and talk about

968
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: this new film, or can we bring some of the

969
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 3: actors on to talk about it, you always have. My

970
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: door is an absolute open door for you. We don't

971
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: have billions and millions of followers, but we got a

972
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: million or so we do, you know, nice little numbers.

973
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you. Thank you so much.

974
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: Always open to you, all right, brother, thank you so

975
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: much for joining.

976
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Feasts, and thank you kease.

977
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: If you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser,

978
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: please subscribe and drop a five star review and tell

979
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: a Friend straight Shot No Chaser is a production of

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Speaker 3: the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartRadio on Teszlin, figure Out,

981
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: and I like to thank our producer editor mixer Dwayne

982
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: Crawford and our executive producer Charlomagne to God. For more

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Speaker 3: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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