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Speaker 1: sorry is so long. I'm like, bring it on, bring

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Speaker 1: it on. And you know, today it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a different kind of show because I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: to some stories that are in the news a lot lately.

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Speaker 1: And this is prerecorded, but I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: because UFO disclosure is going on. And closer to the

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Speaker 1: end of this show, I'm going to have an experiencer

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Speaker 1: with his experiences and what others may be experiencing. And

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Speaker 1: that is Andrew A. Razzlewitz. He is a former New

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Speaker 1: York firefighter who documented so many things he would put

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Speaker 1: them online and wow, just just amazing encounters and and

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Speaker 1: he also gets to the topic of how so many

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Speaker 1: elements of what we consider paranormal are connected, so ghostly encounters,

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Speaker 1: polter geist encounters, just so many different things, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that I've been talking about from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: because I personally went from living in a haunted house

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Speaker 1: to experiencing poltergeist experiences, to experiencing auto body experiences, to

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Speaker 1: even near death experiences, to really really strange experiences that

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Speaker 1: I really don't have definitions for. But I've had angelic encounters,

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot, and this may seem really really odd,

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Speaker 1: but I've also seen things that And I'm not a psychic,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a medium. I always say that, but people say, sure,

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Speaker 1: Why we have these things, I don't know, but it

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Speaker 1: when it comes to disclosure, UFO disclosure sixty minutes in

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Speaker 1: lot bigger budgets. Twenty two million, Come on, I guess

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Speaker 1: they're just trying to make it seem like we really

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Speaker 1: they were. I know people that have personally been harassed

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, they're interrogating the folks and

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Speaker 1: things happen, They absolutely happened, But oh no, they let

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Speaker 1: looks like it declassified. We could speak on it. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what was classified about seeing craft? Let's think did they

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Speaker 1: it Russian? They just you know, they're able to say, well, no,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything move like that before. But there

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Speaker 1: as a guy that came on there and said, every

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Speaker 1: single day they saw UFOs. I'm sorry, you a p

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing. You saw something you can't explain,

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Speaker 1: this is a problem. Right, that's a problem. So it's

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Speaker 1: be there. So that's the threat. Now. For years now,

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Speaker 1: So whoa, everybody, We're in for some serious trouble. But

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Speaker 1: is that really the case? Is that really the case?

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Speaker 1: We don't know, right or do we know? Now? This

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Speaker 1: is something that I've spoken about and I put in

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Speaker 1: my book The Secret War, which discusses a real alien

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Speaker 1: conflict and shadow people and what that is about our government.

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Speaker 1: They're getting new toys from some of these beings, and

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Speaker 1: they're given new weapons, and sometimes they're shooting down these

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Speaker 1: they're using other beings hands and equipment to go and

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Speaker 1: do that. Now, the more positive beings are like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a bigger gun. I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's dangerous, you know. Put that own, put

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Speaker 1: because how many times a hold on I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what level people are at out there. But how many

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Speaker 1: times times if you have looked into this, have there

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Speaker 1: been fighter jets chasing UFOs? There's tons of photos out there.

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Speaker 1: been going on. So they've been chasing them, trying to

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Speaker 1: How do I know that? Well, that's also in my book,

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Speaker 1: The Secret War. But let's just say that there have

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we're going to discuss further. You

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Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: fabulous guess that's going to be discussing something along the

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Speaker 1: lines of the whole UFO disclosure. But he's also an experiencer.

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Speaker 1: So I have Andrew Razalwitz. Did I say that right? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Joining me here? He's uh, former New York fireman that's

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Speaker 1: living in Australia. Now correct, Yes, I am, that's me

472
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Speaker 1: having me on. Yes, and you're also a good friend

473
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Speaker 1: of my good friend Maureen Sieberg. So and you are

474
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Speaker 1: a unique experiencer though. I mean, wow, you've had a

475
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Speaker 1: lot of experiences with various craft and I don't know,

476
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Speaker 1: let's just dive on in. So let's let's get it

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Speaker 1: to your background. What's been going on? UM? Well, basically,

478
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, I've had contact experiences for most of my life. UM.

479
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 1: I thought I was just a matter of you know,

480
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: right place, right time, wrong place, wrong time, seeing objects

481
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: in the sky, or having paranormal type encounters with spirits, ghosts, uh,

482
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and other things I really can't even explain. I didn't

483
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: know if you know, if they were thought forms or

484
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, energies that would just come through the wall.

485
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even putting a word to it. It's it's

486
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: hard to even describe in a word. I like to

487
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: use the word high strangeness. You know, that's a really

488
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: cool term. Um. That seems like you know, most of

489
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: my life was like that until I realized that I

490
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: could actually send a signal out and have this happen

491
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: as well. I thought at first I was just receiving everything. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then I met a doctor, Stephen greer Inn, and

493
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: he that through meditation, we could initiate contact with UFOs. Extraterrestrials, angels,

494
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: and beyond. UM. I was skeptical. I didn't believe him.

495
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I thought there's got to be something to this. But

496
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: from late October doing his protocols and meditations and then

497
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: flying out to the desert in California and spending a

498
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: week with thirty people I did not know prior to this,

499
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: we set together, we meditated them to the stars, and

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Speaker 1: pretty much since the first night, UM, I've had NonStop contact.

501
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I've had it on a daily basis. If I choose

502
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: to this is nothing that has been you know, impeded upon,

503
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, my daily life. This is nothing that just

504
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: comes through and interrupted or done anything negatively. I've just

505
00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: proactively meditated and had experiences that were life changing. UM.

506
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: I even had one experience that saved my life. UM,

507
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: which I take very seriously, you know, trusting your intuition

508
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: that in our voice, and a combination of growing spiritually.

509
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: I believe that that voice that keeps talking to us

510
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: over and over and over time, if we listen to

511
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: that deep voice inside of us, I would like to

512
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: refer to it as intuition. Some people say it's sixth cents.

513
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: There's many different terms for it, but that voice has

514
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: gotten clearer and clearer to me over the years. Um

515
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: and then since meeting queer In, I went back to

516
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: New York where I was from, and I got together

517
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: with the contact team up in East Nasso, New York,

518
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: right near Albany, and we would meet one week in

519
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Speaker 1: a month on a Saturday night. And the lady that

520
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: rent a group is a PhD psychiatrist. This lady, Marion Gak,

521
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating individual and she had a great contact team

522
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: already that I joined, and I made contact with her

523
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: from even until I came here to Australia, and we

524
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: would go once a weekend pretty much and make contact

525
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: either locally, so we even had a more local team

526
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: near New York City, but the big team we meet

527
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: once a month all the way up near Albany, and

528
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: we were having all various size and shaped crafts um

529
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Speaker 1: from objects that literally would be up in the sky.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'd look above me, for example at

531
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: the zenith point while meditating, and then it could be

532
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: literally in a few seconds there would be an object

533
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: right down on the ground near us. Uh. Some would

534
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: fully materialized, change colors, change shapes. I've seen objects float

535
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: down from the sky that were read and take the

536
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: shape of a little being formed with white eyes. Um.

537
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: I've seen black discs appear very far in the distance,

538
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe a hundred yards away, and within seconds they were

539
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: floating ten feet from my head. Um. And that just

540
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: really what I saw in New York and then coming

541
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Speaker 1: to Australia. Uh, it hasn't stopped it. I haven't missed

542
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: a beat. I'll get up here at four or five

543
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: in the morning. Um. That just what I do. I

544
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: go outside of my camera, I film craft. I photographed them.

545
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: Most of the time, I do not film a photograph.

546
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Most of the time, I just sit and enjoy the experience.

547
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: But over the years I started to film things just

548
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: to document them, and then I started to get them

549
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: analyzed by people that were ex military or x aerospace,

550
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: that had worked in private and public sector analyzing these

551
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: videos just to see what their take on it was.

552
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: And from what I've been told and what I've seen,

553
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the things that I was filming were genuine, meaning we

554
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: don't know they are. UM. You know, this time over

555
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: the years to gather the courage to actually film this

556
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: and and get this together and put this out there,

557
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: because you know, it can be a little crazy if

558
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: you just put the stuff out there and you don't

559
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: know what you're doing and what it really is. So

560
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: I really had to trust over the years myself and

561
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: knowing what I was doing, um was actually happening. And

562
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: I got connections from the scientific community on this, spoke

563
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: with them about this at length. I spoke to a

564
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: few PhD s over the years, including Dr Gary Nolan.

565
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Everyone knows him. He's a he's a geneticist, immunologists, that

566
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: just the fascinating person. And it was nice to get

567
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: comments from the scientific community and some feedback from them

568
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: that now, this is a real thing happening. Uh no,

569
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: we don't think you're crazy. And uh you know that

570
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: put a lot of pieces together for myself to realize

571
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: that this phenomena was real and there were people out

572
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: they're taking serious, you know, speaking of that, like, okay,

573
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: we are in the midst of what maybe major disclosure

574
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: on the topic of UFOs, and and I'm of the

575
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: mindset that, you know, after all these years of painting

576
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: people like yourself and myself, I've seen a lot of

577
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: things myself and the skies that you know, they'd say

578
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: might be the rantings of a loon um, you know,

579
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: and it's like, now they're gonna come forward and oh

580
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: glory b you know, they're gonna reveal some truth. I mean,

581
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: how much do you think we should really trust that

582
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: they're suddenly going to reveal to us? Well, it's interesting,

583
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, I think with them, you know, you got

584
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: to be careful if there's an agenda with this, you

585
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: know it's coming from. That's something that was ingrained in

586
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: me when I'm at Steve Greer. You know, just be

587
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: careful it's coming from and really, you know, be a

588
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: lighted to yourself. You know, I've heard that expression many times,

589
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: and that I noticed when you know, the more I

590
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: look outside the deep where I go inside personally internally,

591
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: but the more shows on the outside and the less

592
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: I need validation from the outside, you know, like it

593
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: all works together for me, it goes hand in hand.

594
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just a little skeptical on you know, government disclosure.

595
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: More for more for us as people coming together and

596
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: doing this. Someone asked me the other day when are

597
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: the aliens coming? Do you think we'll see it in

598
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: a lifetime? And I said, right now, I think they've

599
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: made a U turn I said, because if you look

600
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: at the current state of the world and what's going on,

601
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to land in a zoo with animals

602
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: had weapons. And that's maybe how they're looking at Earth.

603
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: That's an interesting Uh you don't put it there, my goodness, Andrew,

604
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I do not. I don't have a whole lot of

605
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: trust in the process. And I know that there's this

606
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: whole scenario that people are worried is going to be

607
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: painted and they're painting it that you know, absolutely everything

608
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: in the sky is a threat because we didn't give

609
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: them permission to be there, and uh so. But I

610
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm also of the mindset that you know, just because

611
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: their aliens doesn't mean they're all good either. Uh so.

612
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I So, I just, um, I'm worried, and I'm concerned

613
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: how much the public is going to feed upon what's

614
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: what's given to them on a spoon, because they've been

615
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: ignoring these topics for a long time, and you know,

616
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: put us in this little category of of being uh nutty.

617
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: And now were the governments speaking, so we must pay attention,

618
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna say bad guys, all of them, bad guys.

619
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: And wow, what I'm worried how people are going to react.

620
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: You know, I just um, I think the open minds

621
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: of some of these folks may start to close into fear.

622
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you feeling? Yeah, I think so too.

623
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: And the thing of course I'm thinking about and they

624
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: were discussing aside to a few people and they don't

625
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: like talking about this makes them very uncomfortable. Now there

626
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: are people that are proactively going out there making contexts

627
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: and having amazing experiences. I just personally myself, I haven't

628
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: had any negative experiences with that. That that's just my story.

629
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: I believe people that have not had good experiences absolutely. Um.

630
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just concerned because obviously we have to do with

631
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: so many issues here with humans on humans that you know,

632
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: I know, this interstellar racism. You know, the aliens are good,

633
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: the aliens are bad. Well, I know that humans are

634
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: good and humans are bad. That I know for sure.

635
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: So the people that are going out there making contacts,

636
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: is it going to come to the point one day

637
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: where our government or the ex government officials come out

638
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: and say you shouldn't be doing that. And if we

639
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Speaker 1: do engage in that, that they're going to consider that

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Speaker 1: if we're going out. So you know what I'm saying, like, oh,

643
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Speaker 1: you've got your deep you're engaged. You're engaging with demons,

644
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645
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646
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648
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Speaker 1: That that gives me a whole lot more to think

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Speaker 1: on now, Andrew, thanks a lot. Jeez. We could be

651
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653
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Speaker 1: Andrew and we're discussing what maybe going on with this

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Speaker 1: UFO disclosure. And you're an experiencer. I'm an experiencer. I

707
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Speaker 1: have not been abducted. I haven't had any negative experiences myself.

708
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I feel bad for people who have had alien abductions

709
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Speaker 1: and who would have fear thinking about this whole thing

710
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Speaker 1: coming down now, you know UFO disclosure. They're painting there's

711
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Speaker 1: going to be an alien threat, and these folks who

712
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: have PTSD from some of their experiences, I can imagine that,

713
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Speaker 1: you know, they may feed into that narrative of fear.

714
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you think we can help those

715
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: folks who are experiencers like that? Well, I don't you know.

716
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't like to give advice and tell anyone this

717
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: is what you should do. I could just say my

718
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: experience or things from trust in people that I know

719
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: what they've gone through and what they've done to help them.

720
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Speaker 1: I don't. I've never experienced the abduction phenomena myself, but

721
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: I know people that have had that happen. They have

722
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Speaker 1: gone to people like Mary Rodwell Gerald Diana Roscoe, and

723
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: they have done regressions. And I could tell you that

724
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I admit dozens of people that had negative experiences and

725
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: gone into this and then they've done aggressions, and then

726
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: after the aggressions, they put a lot of the pieces

727
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Speaker 1: together and they realized that actually what they thought was

728
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: a negative experience was not. Perhaps a prime example of that,

729
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I've heard Travis Walton speak about the ets brought him

730
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Speaker 1: on board and he found out later from speaking to

731
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Speaker 1: doctor Career and some other people that the et s

732
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Speaker 1: were actually helping him. They were healing him, they were repairing,

733
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Speaker 1: and they were doing something to him because he got

734
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: too close to the craft. So at first, something that

735
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Speaker 1: might seem horrifical, horror, you know, really bad experience. When

736
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: people do aggressions, sometimes they can heal from that, but

737
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to be real f with them.

738
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: I know that some people have gone to certain people

739
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: for aggressions and not had good experiences, but to me,

740
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: this is really like an inside job. You know, there's

741
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: many different routes to this. For me personally, transcendental meditation

742
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: has helped in all areas of my life to make

743
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: peaceful contact and in just in general life overall as well. Um,

744
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: how about yourself, Hidie, what what do you know? Oh?

745
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: My goodness, Well, I think they're like you said, there

746
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: are different levels and different interactions with different types of

747
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: beings where people and family members that have all been

748
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: abused by certain race that when they got their memories

749
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: through hypnosis or whatever, Uh, it was a bad thing.

750
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it just got worse. And then there were

751
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: some like I've been in this for a long time

752
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: that I've sat in on UFO and alien abduction groups

753
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: and I was somebody that had witnessed positive beings and

754
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Speaker 1: I had witnessed uh lots of UFOs, and some of

755
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: these these folks were really Uh they changed. There was

756
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: this weird switch like I'm a victim, I'm a victim.

757
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Then they're like I'm chosen, I'm special. And that confused

758
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: me because these are people who were crying their eyes

759
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: out at these meetings and then all of a sudden,

760
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, they abused me. Yeah, they tortured me,

761
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: but obviously I was desired and I don't understand that narrative,

762
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: and it's I try not to judge, you know, for

763
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: what people feel to be true for themselves, but it's

764
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: really confusing to see that change. So, um, I think

765
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of different types of folks

766
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: taking this really differently, especially those of us that we're

767
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: put in this category of having these understandings of UFOs.

768
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Now we're we're gonna be like prized, like people are

769
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna be seeking us out. Andrew, Like, whoa you over there?

770
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: The guy that' would taking photos of these things for years?

771
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: You know? Now you are the guru that can really

772
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: help guide people. And I think it's a responsibility in

773
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: a sense. How how do you feel? Um? Yeah, you

774
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: know what someone asked me about, is this for everyone?

775
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Can anyone do this? Can anyone meditate make contact with

776
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: these things? I said, Well, to me, it's it's the

777
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: same thing as you know, the profession you choose, being

778
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: a firefighter or a carpenter or whatever interest you have

779
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: in life. Some people learn into it, some aren't, you

780
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: know yet, anyone can do this, It's just not for

781
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: everyone to do and to share in the context that

782
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: you and I are sharing right now. For example, I

783
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: have family, their experiences, all of them, every single one.

784
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: But they'll tell me no, no, no, don't go talk

785
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: about you know, be careful what you say. People are

786
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: gonna judge you. You know. It's more of that old

787
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: school mentality me, I don't care. You know. I was

788
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: in the New York Post a few years ago and

789
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: it says right in there, I don't care. I don't

790
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Speaker 1: care what people think. That's exactly what I thought then,

791
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what I think now. It really doesn't

792
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: matter people's opinion. People are gonna love you and hate

793
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: you no matter what you do, so you might as

794
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: well just do what you love. Amen to that. And

795
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think a lot of people realize

796
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: this fact too, that some of these folks who have

797
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: stepped forward with their experiences, they're not always using their

798
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: real name. But I'm pretty sure, Rad Rad Slits, I'm

799
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: pretty sure that that's your last name. You wouldn't have

800
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: made that one up, right, Yeah, I never I never

801
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: hid anything, you know. I always just tried to just

802
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: get information and then things just steamrolled and spread and

803
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: I figured that was just the easiest route. I went

804
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: by my nickname Raz because everyone told me Raz in

805
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: the falyrehouse. So no good deal. But yeah, I don't

806
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: think we're going to get into where by anonymous sources,

807
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: and I can't say this and that, Hey, if we

808
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: want to get to the truth, we might as well

809
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: just talk about this like adults and openly, exactly. And

810
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, sixty Minutes just did a big story on

811
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: this just the other day, and wow, they're allowing the

812
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: military to express what it is they witnessed. And they're like, well,

813
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: now that it's declassified, we could speak freely. It's like,

814
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, I know so many people that lost their jobs,

815
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: lost their families, suicidal, some may have even killed themselves

816
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: over this topic. And oh, thank you so much for

817
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: a suddenly wanting to be honest a little bit about

818
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. But you know, it's interesting to see.

819
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that they're acknowledging these things, but I'm a

820
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: bit worried. Why now? What do you think? What is that?

821
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Why now? Andrew? Yeah, well, I've heard the rumors of

822
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: the false flag alien invasion that's been happening for seventy years,

823
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I think, yeah, that's kind

824
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: of been happening, right with all this this infone. What's

825
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: real and what's not? And I think the key to

826
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: the this whole thing, government or not is the experience

827
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: or there's still not talking about the people interacting with

828
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: this thing. We don't know, we don't know, we don't know.

829
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: That's a load of craft. I think I heard the

830
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: best thing the other day of a Ralph Boom and

831
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: Fall on the CNN and he said it's at rach terrestrial.

832
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: No one wants to admit it, but that's what it is,

833
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and that's it. They don't want to go there now.

834
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: Whether the military stuff is extraterrestrial or not. I'm talking

835
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: about that. I'm talking about people like us that are

836
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: interacting with the stack and go out and through meditated states.

837
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: These things are here and we interact with this stuff.

838
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: That's the real phenomenon that did not quite dag yet.

839
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: But I am a little worried about how they're gonna

840
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: make us try to look when they release that stuff.

841
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: So it's up to us to stick together to get

842
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: the truth out, because disclosure comes from you and I.

843
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: It's read the people it's awesome, right, Yes, you know,

844
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: I have to try that method sometime, and reaching out

845
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to some of these craft, I've had them respond and

846
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: didn't expect it and grew and I mean full on

847
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: like ship dropped down among me and my friends. So

848
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: like I was just joking, I'm like, we saw a

849
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: bunch of lights in this guy and they looked like

850
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: they're shooting at each other, to be honest. And I

851
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: was up in Massachusetts and and I'm like, I said, wow, well,

852
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: since you craft are out here tonight, you know, I've

853
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: never seen a triangular ship craft. If one of you

854
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: wants to swing down, you could account to three. And

855
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: this thing dropped out of the night sky and just like,

856
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, four stories up, just like we thought

857
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: it was gonna smash us. We dropped to the crown

858
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: and went flat and it just cruised over our heads

859
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: turned around. I'm like, wow, it hurt me. And that

860
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: was the third time that had happened to me. But yeah,

861
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: so I'm curious, you know, trying that method sometime to

862
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: see what I could get when I'm really like focused

863
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: on it. But I really didn't anticipate. So these things

864
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: are aware, So how do you explain that then, you know,

865
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: responding to you the way they do well. I can

866
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: even be in my house and I'll get a feeling

867
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: that something's outside. And I woke outside with the camera

868
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: bang it's there, So like sometimes it does happen like that.

869
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: I just get this certain feeling. For me, it comes

870
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: to like energy, so it's like a different vibration. I

871
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: get a certain feeling in my body when I know

872
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: there's a crypt. I get a different feeling my body

873
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: when I know that I'm around the spirit when I

874
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: communicate with the spirits. That's another thing that has evolved

875
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: with all of this contact too. So for me, like

876
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: I literally my heart will start racing a little bit.

877
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: I'll get a little you know, light head, and my

878
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: hair stand up literally like that like a kid on

879
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: Christmas morning. If I'm in the house, and then in

880
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: my mind, in my mind's eye, I will see an object.

881
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: I will see an object, and I'll say to my

882
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: wife and kids, I'll go there outside and I'll go

883
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: out with my thirteen into all of your role to

884
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: my wife and all of us together we do this

885
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: as a family. Yeah. Wow, you know, and another thing

886
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: two people have you know, I've seen objects that maybe

887
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: had looked like a plane or something I couldn't describe,

888
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: or a planet that was still, and then all of

889
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the thing will take off, shoot

890
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: off and vanish. And I've seen that. I know Nick Pope.

891
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but I know Nick Pope

892
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: said once he saw a plane flying and the thing disappeared. Yes,

893
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: that weird stuff will happen to You will see objects

894
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: that you think our ships or different sorts of objects.

895
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: They'll be yeah, and then they're gone, like a hologram vanishing.

896
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, it's very very true. I've lost count

897
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: how many craft I've seen and uh yeah. But you know,

898
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: another interesting point that you made that people who see

899
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: these things we also see like spirits. We see ghostly

900
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: things and Poulter guys like stuff, and it's like it's

901
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: all connected. I mean right, Yes, my understanding of it

902
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: is there at ninety nine FM, they go down to

903
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: ninety eight FM on the radio dial. We're at FM,

904
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: we go up to ninety eight, and we all meet

905
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: at eight for that in that space in between, somehow

906
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: it happens, and then we go back to our respective stations.

907
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: I love it. How can people how can people get

908
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: ahold of you? Or read this article that was written

909
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: on you? Oh yeah yeah, I mean I'm on old

910
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: social media is just looking up by my name, Google

911
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: my name, you'll find me. I'm in every social I'm

912
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: there if anyone needs anything or any questions. I love

913
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff. That's what it's all about.

914
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: Amen to that. And you know, I thought this is

915
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: really awesome to get you on. We discovered our birthdates

916
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: are on the same day, so yeah, really crazy. I'm like,

917
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: hold on, and I'm like, you know, the day after

918
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: our birthday though it's it's for you, it's a different time.

919
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: But it's all good. And I'm like, oh, this is great.

920
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's just hop on. So I want to thank

921
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: you for coming on Andrew any time. Yeah, this is

922
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: this is a blast. So man, this is just perfect.

923
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: But all right, So hopefully we'll get you back on

924
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: again and we'll talk about some more stuff after after

925
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: the disclosure. Andrew, how about that after the discrept I'll

926
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: be here. Perfect. Everyone go to shadow folks dot com

927
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: or Heidi Hollis dot com and send over whatever it

928
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: is that you've experienced out of the ordinary, from angels

929
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: to aliens, shadow people to hat Man. Put as much

930
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: detail as you can and we will speak of it

931
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: here on the show. And if you want to be

932
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: a guest on the show, you are also welcome to

933
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: mention that you have been listening to Dark Becomes Light

934
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Speaker 1: with me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and

935
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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network, and we

936
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Speaker 1: will catch you next time. Good night, everybody. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till

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Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the

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