Speaker 1: There is a concentrated effort to make sure that most
Speaker 1: Americans look at firearms as evil and anyone that owns
Speaker 1: utilizes is in support of the Second Amendment. Those people
Speaker 1: are not patriots or red blooded Americans. Those people are
Speaker 1: like the racists that absolutely need to be put off
Speaker 1: the face of the planet.
Speaker 2: The solutionary life, yeah, because we should be talking about
Speaker 2: solutions and the problems all the time.
Speaker 1: When our lifestyle should be solutionary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the problem.
Speaker 1: Let's throw different things that could solve this at it.
Speaker 1: Get that actual solution. Hey, guys, we don't ever have
Speaker 1: to talk about this again. If we are still talking
Speaker 1: about the importance of the Second Amendment and then we
Speaker 1: already have a blueprint, we are having a problem.
Speaker 3: We're revolving around this conversation, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that is that overall thing of you know
Speaker 1: what a solutionary is. We see that problem, get them solutions.
Speaker 2: Let's move forward, and you want to be an example
Speaker 2: for the So it's like more influence, Yeah, not power.
Speaker 3: I can't run your life.
Speaker 1: I mean I could coach you in certain areas, like
Speaker 1: you're trying and get ripped, bro, Like you want to
Speaker 1: change your diath. I like, there's too many X factors
Speaker 1: in your life that I'm not aware of.
Speaker 3: Of that context.
Speaker 1: I've experienced that most of the people that don't have
Speaker 1: no discipline don't never have no freedom.
Speaker 2: Freedom comes from the discipline, right, Yeah. You know, do
Speaker 2: you think if you educated more around that, then it
Speaker 2: sort of again takes that curiosity away, teaches people to
Speaker 2: respect them more and.
Speaker 1: Things like that. The education always beats the legislation having
Speaker 1: firearms and informing them the thought process of demystifying this firearm,
Speaker 1: because now I want her brain to understand it. Like
Speaker 1: a cell phone, it's the same, it's a tool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Kobe, Kobe was a beast. I referenced him
Speaker 2: a bunch. My daughter started playing tennis, and you know,
Speaker 2: trying to get her to go put the work in
Speaker 2: and practice. She thinks she's working so hard. I'm working
Speaker 2: harder than the other kids. And I said, but they've
Speaker 2: been playing longer than you, Like you're trying to close
Speaker 2: the gap. But like Kobe would talk about how he
Speaker 2: would play, you know what, three four hours earlier every
Speaker 2: day before. But he did that so he could get
Speaker 2: better than everybody. But then he didn't stop, right, because
Speaker 2: he had to stay ahead of everybody. He was a beast.
Speaker 2: So using that sort of advice from Kobe sort of
Speaker 2: like not win or lose, Like it's just I'm focused
Speaker 2: on playing the game in the flow state, Like how
Speaker 2: would do you take that? You personally take that to that?
Speaker 2: How do you use that? And what game are you playing?
Speaker 1: Initially I thought I was playing a firearms and Second
Speaker 1: Amendment game. But you know, you want to make God laugh,
Speaker 1: tell him your plans type of thing, right, It's really
Speaker 1: more about this overall concept of this thing that we've
Speaker 1: called the solutionary lifestyle. We have a community center in
Speaker 1: Philly right where we obviously we do firearms training free
Speaker 1: to everybody, voluntary donations.
Speaker 3: We do it, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But then it just leads you to different paths. So
Speaker 1: you'll go, Okay, I can teach him.
Speaker 2: Part of the transcendence, right right, Yeah, and you.
Speaker 1: Go, all right, I told this person how to put
Speaker 1: holes in bad people. Cool, there is a chance that
Speaker 1: the hole may be in a good person. Now we
Speaker 1: got to teach them how to stop the bleed. Now
Speaker 1: we're talking about blood, we're talking about heart rate, we're
Speaker 1: talking about tying a tourniquet. Now we're talking about firearms,
Speaker 1: we're talking about avoiding conflict. You're talking about all of
Speaker 1: these different things that you thought you were coming into
Speaker 1: this from a Second Amendment and firearms perspective.
Speaker 3: We're all now at like, hey, are you in shape?
Speaker 1: Can you run away from a scenario so you don't
Speaker 1: have to put holes in people or plug upholes? So
Speaker 1: now it's turning into this other thing where that you
Speaker 1: think you're doing this, but it's leaning you in a
Speaker 1: direction of this, and I'm just like kind of let
Speaker 1: go like fundraising, Like our model initially was fundraising, right,
Speaker 1: we raised the money, we give it away. We raised
Speaker 1: about seven hundred thousand dollars to do these classes for free.
Speaker 1: We raise it, we give it away, we get the content,
Speaker 1: We do all these different things. We obviously created the
Speaker 1: T shirt component after that to have you know.
Speaker 3: Because it's voluntarily, but the shirts shirts.
Speaker 1: Point being is during the fundraising phase, especially after you've
Speaker 1: had some success, there's a different level of plateau. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: you're on shows, people know you, you probably don't need
Speaker 1: our support, and then you go, this is difficult. And
Speaker 1: when that difficulty happens. Then you turn around and go,
Speaker 1: all right, why am I stressing about this? I'm doing
Speaker 1: good work, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. But that
Speaker 1: problem then becomes an answer within it. Well, it's because
Speaker 1: you're not expanding and going in this direction. So for me,
Speaker 1: it just became like letting go and going we have
Speaker 1: to have a holistic approach to the issues that are
Speaker 1: in our communities, mostly urban because that's where I do
Speaker 1: most of our work. We got to have this holistic
Speaker 1: approach that's not just firearms related, not saying that the
Speaker 1: firearm and a Second Amendment component is not important or
Speaker 1: we're anti at this point, it's just what are the
Speaker 1: other things that add value in that list of human
Speaker 1: those areas of human activity. And I've noticed over the
Speaker 1: last year or two, like I've been learning how to
Speaker 1: grow food. I moved to Miami for like two months
Speaker 1: and I was just on my homies farm and just
Speaker 1: growing food because okay, cool, you can defend stuff, you
Speaker 1: can patch people up. Can you feed like literally feed
Speaker 1: yourself from the ground, And so that part of me
Speaker 1: just letting go and accepting. I know that there's tyranny,
Speaker 1: but I also know that all historically all tyrants have fallen,
Speaker 1: like all of them. May take a while, yeah, but
Speaker 1: sometimes too long, sometimes too long, but it just becomes like, yo,
Speaker 1: are you being the most well rounded and holistic version
Speaker 1: of this being to be able to be an example
Speaker 1: for other people that whichever lane they are drawn to
Speaker 1: you by. Oh you minda like your gym content? Alright, cool,
Speaker 1: that's gym content. But what's your heart rate? Like?
Speaker 3: What did you eat today? How much water did you drink?
Speaker 1: You know, And so just letting everybody, just letting go
Speaker 1: whatever way that this personal group of people shows up
Speaker 1: in your life, taking them on the other parts of
Speaker 1: the journey. But that means you have to be as
Speaker 1: equally well rounded and inconsistent with that well rounded approach.
Speaker 1: And that's really where I'm at with this solutionary lifestyle
Speaker 1: brand because black guns matter. You know, it's been super helpful.
Speaker 1: I mean we're cited in the Bruin decision, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: So that's one area.
Speaker 1: But just letting go and not making your identity only
Speaker 1: be this thing that because you are way more well
Speaker 1: rounded than the.
Speaker 2: One thing that you're initially known for, yeah, you should
Speaker 2: be eventually, And that's the transcendence part, right, and instant
Speaker 2: to your point, it's not that guns aren't important. They
Speaker 2: don't matter, but you realize that it's one small piece
Speaker 2: of a much bigger puzzle at the end of the day. Right,
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, work on that, but then let's
Speaker 2: go take care of these other things. Right. So the
Speaker 2: solutionary life, Yeah, that's your thing. I want to find
Speaker 2: out more about that. I like the name of it, yeah,
Speaker 2: because we should be talking about solutions and the problems
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: When we started it, the fund part of me for
Speaker 1: cutting you. Everybody was saying, what you're doing is so
Speaker 1: revel solutionary, and I got an etymological dictionary. I'm not
Speaker 1: revolve just means we're just doing this and I don't
Speaker 1: you know. And on a physical component, revolutions, you know,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's like the Panthers. It's like the Founding
Speaker 1: Fathers is kind of like that, and it's like your
Speaker 1: revolutions can get bloody. So I don't want to initially
Speaker 1: associated with that, not just because I'm not.
Speaker 3: Capable of prepared, but it's like, yo, I get you,
Speaker 3: but our interest is not to revolve around this same issue.
Speaker 3: That's the problem. Most people just revolve around the problem.
Speaker 1: So we were like, yo, we want to our lifestyle
Speaker 1: should be solutionary. This is the problem. Let's throw different
Speaker 1: things that could solve this at it. Get that actual solution. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we don't ever have to talk about this again if
Speaker 1: we are still talking about the importance of the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1: I think we're two hundred and forty eight.
Speaker 3: Years in in America and then we already have a blueprint.
Speaker 3: We are having a problem.
Speaker 1: We're revolving around this conversation, you know, and so that
Speaker 1: is that overall thing of you know what a solutionary is.
Speaker 1: We see that, get them solutions.
Speaker 2: Let's move forward. Yeah, the one thing back to revolutions,
Speaker 2: they're they're bloody, and that's not good. And I think,
Speaker 2: I mean, this may be going off track a little bit,
Speaker 2: but like it's almost and maybe this is part of
Speaker 2: what a conservative would be would be like if we
Speaker 2: could just conserve that constitution. So it's not we don't
Speaker 2: want to revolt against that. Almost you would say the
Speaker 2: lefts are trying to have a revolution against that. We
Speaker 2: would want to preserve that, not have a revolution against that.
Speaker 2: With every way you look.
Speaker 1: At it they yes, And the why is, you know,
Speaker 1: more so sometimes than what the why do they think
Speaker 1: that they need to revolt against this constitutional thing? I've
Speaker 1: noticed most of the people public servants allegedly right, they've
Speaker 1: never read the Constitution. They've never understood why at the
Speaker 1: articles of this? Why then the convening in Philadelphia twice?
Speaker 3: Why these things?
Speaker 1: So they don't understand context that makes them go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this isn't that important again.
Speaker 3: Me in high school, I used to skip school.
Speaker 1: And go down to Independence Hall and take tours. I
Speaker 1: would listen to, you know, all of the tour guys
Speaker 1: have conversations about like Ben Franklin's print.
Speaker 3: Shop is there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: This all of this history in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And I would go back to my neighborhood or even
Speaker 1: my teachers and be like, Yo, what are we not
Speaker 1: going to talk about this? This in the social studies class?
Speaker 1: And you know, the teachers used to be like, where
Speaker 1: are you getting this from? And that always stuck with me.
Speaker 3: Why do you know that?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? And I'm just like, man, this is kind
Speaker 1: of like a concentrated effort to make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: remember that movie to Truman show, Yeah, well he just
Speaker 1: started to recognize like, is this are y'all like fucking
Speaker 1: with me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so I've recognized through that the initial high school
Speaker 1: era of me going to go study different things and
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to. They didn't know. My teachers didn't
Speaker 1: know they had a degree in a school that was like, hey,
Speaker 1: just go teach in this area and we'll give you,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll cut some off for your student loans.
Speaker 1: They weren't passionate about the thing that they were teaching.
Speaker 1: To translate it to me, and I'm just nerd out
Speaker 1: because i done sold all of my out whatever and
Speaker 1: I'm going down to downtown and Yo, this's Liberty bell
Speaker 1: have y'all from the movie The Rocky Thing, The Steps. Yo,
Speaker 1: this is like stuff. And you know, people take for
Speaker 1: granted those things. So my point saying that is they
Speaker 1: rebel against it or revolt against it because they never
Speaker 1: understood it. They didn't get the why and the what
Speaker 1: behind it, so that context was totally missing. And then
Speaker 1: when you look at the thing that is highlighted, America
Speaker 1: has a complicated history. I'm a black dude. I know
Speaker 1: that there's been complicated history in its layer. I do
Speaker 1: think that most Americans are trying to aspire to go
Speaker 1: in a different but narratives in media are very powerful.
Speaker 1: So if we don't know this context here, we don't
Speaker 1: know the why and the what was actually going on,
Speaker 1: then media goes yo, it's because everything one percent all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Was racist and there is no great area.
Speaker 1: It's easy for them to say, hey, maybe we should
Speaker 1: revolt against this if I don't look at it objectively
Speaker 1: from their perspective to understand like, oh, you're kind of
Speaker 1: like a dumb baby, you don't know right, Not saying
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna acquiesce to their dumb babiness. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go, oh, you just don't get it. It actually
Speaker 1: gives me a better tool to engage that community because
Speaker 1: I know that that's an education and application issue. You
Speaker 1: don't know, so you can't apply it. So then I
Speaker 1: just show up and just start teaching people stuff. So
Speaker 1: with black guns Matter, I'm gonna I know, y'all vote
Speaker 1: this way?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: All right, this is an educational opportunity when I show you, hey,
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. You know, if you if media said
Speaker 1: everything is racist, that they tell you that gun control
Speaker 1: was a nigga, what I'm like, Yeah, yeah. It was
Speaker 1: the first federal gun grab, the massacre at Wounded Knee. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know Plymouth for Virginia, those colonies were like, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: No black people can have guns, absolutely not. And this
Speaker 1: predates the constitution that we're.
Speaker 3: Now and now.
Speaker 1: And so when you give that information, I'll go, yeah, man.
Speaker 1: So if you don't like the system, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue with you. But would you
Speaker 1: want only that system that made rules and regulations that
Speaker 1: you or the people that you say you're fighting for.
Speaker 3: You're an ally whatever you call yourself.
Speaker 1: Right, would you want the people that you say you're
Speaker 1: fighting for to be victimized by the government because they're
Speaker 1: not exercising their constitutional rights?
Speaker 3: Does that really make you an ally?
Speaker 1: And so that educational component, from a non adversarial perspective
Speaker 1: is how we were able to be very, very successful.
Speaker 1: Because I'm bro, you don't want a gun, cool, I'm
Speaker 1: not tripping, just like I'm gonna respect your rights to
Speaker 1: not have one. Yo, we both Americans. If you want
Speaker 1: one later, I'm here for you. We'll give you a class,
Speaker 1: but please respect my right to be like, nah, I
Speaker 1: kind of just want one. And so the empathy component
Speaker 1: based on knowing that they don't know, and then going
Speaker 1: like a cool, they not my adversary. There's always an
Speaker 1: unseen hand, you know, the money, like what people think
Speaker 1: is money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, It is money, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: you know, so I and now it's so much bigger
Speaker 2: than that. So the guns piece was a small piece,
Speaker 2: and so I want to get to the bigger piece.
Speaker 2: Obviously your shirt right there. Freedom above everything, I'm guessing
Speaker 2: that's what that means. Freedom over every freedom over everything.
Speaker 2: But but just sticking on the guns for a second.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Texas. My grandfather was a big
Speaker 2: hunter and my uncle was a hunter, and so I
Speaker 2: grew up as a young kid shooting guns. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: you know, I would hear even when I was a
Speaker 2: kid that you know, we didn't have mass shootings back then,
Speaker 2: we didn't have There was no such thing as school shootings.
Speaker 2: And in Texas, like people drove to school guns in
Speaker 2: their car. They took guns to school, right, and we
Speaker 2: didn't have them. And that's a whole other conversation. But
Speaker 2: I uh, but there were like accidental shootings. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so like kids would be curious and they'd go play
Speaker 2: with their parents' guns and accidentally shoot themselves. And I
Speaker 2: just thought that me growing up around them, there was
Speaker 2: no curiosity. I knew exactly what they were. I was
Speaker 2: trained to handle them properly. I was trained to respect
Speaker 2: them probably, and so there's never any curiosity like, oh,
Speaker 2: let me go check it out with let me and
Speaker 2: I can remember specifically being at a friend's house and
Speaker 2: they did want to pull the gun out, and I
Speaker 2: was like new enough to be like not be around
Speaker 2: right anyway. So I'm just curious to your point of
Speaker 2: wanting to kind of bring that education, is it? Is
Speaker 2: it maybe part of that? I mean, obviously guns are
Speaker 2: a problem across, you know, everywhere, and now to the
Speaker 2: point shootings are getting more and more. Do you think
Speaker 2: if you educated more around that, then it sort of
Speaker 2: again takes that curiosity away, teaches people to respect them more,
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 1: The education always beats to legislation all the time. In
Speaker 1: the nineties, we had problems with teen pregnancy. Tupop Branda's
Speaker 1: got a baby, right. They didn't go, hey, if we
Speaker 1: catch you young kids having sex, we're gonna put you
Speaker 1: in jail.
Speaker 3: Legislators write it up. That's not what they did.
Speaker 4: They were like, hey, we we have this sex education,
Speaker 4: like actual education, not like this weird shit that's going
Speaker 4: on right now. That's another job, right But they just said, hey, parents,
Speaker 4: do you want to sign off on this and.
Speaker 3: We'll teach you about the reproductive system? And da da
Speaker 3: da da.
Speaker 1: Da, And almost like within a couple of years, like
Speaker 1: the teen pregnancy conversation didn't exist anymore. There was no legislation.
Speaker 1: It was just we're going to inform people to your point. Yes,
Speaker 1: as we continue to inform more people about the safe.
Speaker 1: My daughter she's eight, she has a firearm in her
Speaker 1: room in a safe that we.
Speaker 3: Is my beep vaultech.
Speaker 1: But the process of what this is and having firearms
Speaker 1: and informing them to the thought process of demystifying this
Speaker 1: firearm because now I want her brain to understand it
Speaker 1: like a cell phone, it's the same. It's a tool.
Speaker 1: And so the problem is there has been a concentrated
Speaker 1: effort to make sure that demographics across America, even if
Speaker 1: it initially started in black communities, there is a concentrated
Speaker 1: effort to make sure that most Americans look at firearms
Speaker 1: as evil, look at them as this tool is going
Speaker 1: to turn you into a mass shooter, and anyone that
Speaker 1: owns utilizes is in support of the Second Amendment. Those
Speaker 1: people are not patriots or red blooded Americans. Those people
Speaker 1: are like the racists that absolutely need to be put
Speaker 1: off the face of the planet. That what they're doing
Speaker 1: is a good villain move. Like if I was a
Speaker 1: super villain, I would do it too, because they know
Speaker 1: how to educate through propaganda. We don't use the propaganda
Speaker 1: that we have on the side of right and righteousness
Speaker 1: and justice and constitutionality and human rights. We just don't
Speaker 1: play the media game the way that the left does.
Speaker 1: I mean they got good at it. Talk about Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 1: They have to put the reps in because they don't
Speaker 1: have substance, so they have to be I gotta consistently
Speaker 1: lie to you, and I get better at lying to you.
Speaker 1: So understand it that the key is to inform the
Speaker 1: people not only about the safe and responsible firearms handling,
Speaker 1: but also inform the people about this is the propaganda
Speaker 1: machine and this is why they're trying to trick you,
Speaker 1: you know. And that part is I'm a point guard
Speaker 1: and I'm a translator. I can make very complicated things
Speaker 1: seem very very simple, and there's still complex, but you
Speaker 1: can explain them simply, and when we can effectively do that,
Speaker 1: then we get some progress. As hands down, the reason
Speaker 1: why we had so much successful Black Lives Matter, I
Speaker 1: just was in those areas, explained it simply challenged their ideas,
Speaker 1: respected them as humans, and said, yo, we're not enemies.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I'm curious your take on this, because again,
Speaker 2: freedom over everything, and you think about the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: You talked about people not understanding what the Constitution was about,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And then they're referencing they are the leaders
Speaker 2: the left, whatever you call them, right, I guess that's
Speaker 2: what you're referring to.
Speaker 3: I see that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree they're lying their gas lighting, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And a lot of what they do is they change
Speaker 2: definitions and they change definitions and so like we're actually
Speaker 2: talking about two different things, but we think we're talking
Speaker 2: about the same thing. And sometimes I feel like they
Speaker 2: change the definitions because then they can win that argument.
Speaker 2: And so back to the Second Amendment. Right now, you've
Speaker 2: referenced so many times about being able to protect yourself,
Speaker 2: protect yourself, protect yourself, and I feel that's one way
Speaker 2: that they're trying to change the definition because they could
Speaker 2: win that. So the second Amendment, I don't believe was
Speaker 2: about self defense. It was about protecting against tearing. And
Speaker 2: so they if they say, well, you don't, you don't need,
Speaker 2: you don't need, you don't need self defense if nobody
Speaker 2: has guns, then you don't need to defend yourself and
Speaker 2: the police have guns and the police will have your back,
Speaker 2: you don't, And then they could win that argument. But
Speaker 2: how do they win an argument that says no, we
Speaker 2: need it for tiering. And so I'm curious your takes.
Speaker 1: So both both arguments. So I get hit with both,
Speaker 1: and I have an answer for each side when the
Speaker 1: person because again my job is to try to change
Speaker 1: their thought process a little bit. I can't, but I
Speaker 1: can at least destroy your arguments with logic, So I
Speaker 1: usually hit them with a socratic method when it goes there.
Speaker 1: So if that person is more left leaning, and they
Speaker 1: if I know that, they're like the entire system is racist,
Speaker 1: and I go, okay, cool, I'm not going to argue
Speaker 1: against you. I'll go cool, I just didn't know that
Speaker 1: you were so pro government, And they'll go, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not pro government, and I don't know. Well, you trust
Speaker 1: the government to defend you, and you trust that the
Speaker 1: government won't do the wrong thing. And they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I'm like, well yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I start naming the names of the people that I
Speaker 1: know you're in alignment with.
Speaker 3: I don't. My job is to not make you argue.
Speaker 1: Whether, let's say, George Floyd is right or wrong as
Speaker 1: a human. I think he did shitty things part of
Speaker 1: my language, but I'm not going to argue that point
Speaker 1: to that person. I just go, well, man, you want
Speaker 1: the same government that you say is fully racist that
Speaker 1: choked George Floyd to death. You want them to be
Speaker 1: the only people that has firearms. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: trust in that g government. So I don't argue against them.
Speaker 1: I just make them think more things. Now, as as
Speaker 1: far as it relates to tyranny, they'll they're very inconsistent,
Speaker 1: whether intentionally or like being manipulative. So if they go, oh,
Speaker 1: if you say.
Speaker 3: Tyranny, they go, well, what do you mean the government
Speaker 3: wouldn't do that?
Speaker 1: And then I go, oh, but again, this system is
Speaker 1: racist and everybody's racist, so would that be And I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: even if they happen to be black, Well, if the
Speaker 1: system racist and he's black cop and he works for
Speaker 1: the system, you a white dude, man, he might be
Speaker 1: racist toward you. So wouldn't you want to have a
Speaker 1: way of defending yourself against that type of tyranny. Every
Speaker 1: argument that they have, if not met with ad aggression,
Speaker 1: is met with like on some low key like redirection
Speaker 1: and challenging to their thought process.
Speaker 3: Those are the ways.
Speaker 1: That I get that person to concede. And if they say, well,
Speaker 1: if it's not about personal protection, it's about tyranny, I
Speaker 1: go that way. If they say it's not about tyranny,
Speaker 1: it's about personal protection, I go that way. The bottom
Speaker 1: line is I have to let them see that they're
Speaker 1: talking for the same government or the same system that
Speaker 1: they would be in opposition to. And when I can
Speaker 1: help them put that light bulb on by inception, then
Speaker 1: they'll leave. Even if they don't agree with me in
Speaker 1: the conversation. Right there, that inception's already that is, that
Speaker 1: idea is in your brain.
Speaker 3: It's going to keep growing, and so.
Speaker 1: Both arguments is what they'll do to be intellectually intellectually
Speaker 1: inconsistent you just have to have one already tied up
Speaker 1: and again reps.
Speaker 3: I've done this a jillion times. So when they say, yo.
Speaker 1: You know in the Constitution they didn't mean black people,
Speaker 1: and I go, well, they didn't mention race at all
Speaker 1: in the Constitution anywhere, and the declaration says the opposite.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, So this is always always right.
Speaker 1: But ninety percent of the time, and my lived anecdotal,
Speaker 1: lived experience, it is very much so an issue of
Speaker 1: education and application. If you meet me at the point
Speaker 1: where I can inform you and educate you later on,
Speaker 1: I don't need credit for it.
Speaker 3: You're going to start applying it later.
Speaker 1: Because something will happen and you'll I'll give you perfect example.
Speaker 1: I'm a libertarian, but I clearly cannot vote for Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: like duh, like, regardless of whatever.
Speaker 2: Ideology wise or because he's a walking vegetable both.
Speaker 1: Like how can you be the walking vegetable that also
Speaker 1: has horrible ideology? Right, he's checking all the hell no boxes.
Speaker 2: I just I'm like a man, like whatever. Twenty five
Speaker 2: percent of people still think he should be running, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, you shouldn't be allowed to vote, not
Speaker 2: because ideology you want communism cool, but like he's clearly
Speaker 2: a vegetable, right, So.
Speaker 1: I think that I'm critical of Trump in certain areas. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not gonna pick Biden over Trump, just like
Speaker 1: anything hotel, international travel, Like, it's nothing that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick it more. But I'm critical of Trump and that
Speaker 1: level of criticalness that person that I'm talking to that
Speaker 1: may be hardcore Trump in that moment. My job is
Speaker 1: not to highlight just for Trump because I'm so because
Speaker 1: Biden's so bad. My job is to showcase which politicians
Speaker 1: and public servants are firing on all cylinders or most
Speaker 1: cylinders as it relates to the Constitution. So I just
Speaker 1: stay in the objective space. So if when I'm critical
Speaker 1: of Trump and I say, yo, he had that sentence, man,
Speaker 1: I don't trust that sentence. You know, take the gun's
Speaker 1: first due process later, I'm afraid of that sentence. Not
Speaker 1: to challenge the person that may be identifying as a
Speaker 1: Trump supporter or right of center, it's for me to go, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: all of the politicians need to be held to the standard,
Speaker 1: especially in a federal level, more specifically to this standard
Speaker 1: of this Constitution, because our founders to this nation weren't
Speaker 1: about like yeah red versus Blue, actually were like.
Speaker 3: Yo, don't do party systems, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that level of objectivity, just because I'm dunking
Speaker 1: on the left because they've given us so much material
Speaker 1: all of the time, doesn't mean that we don't keep
Speaker 1: that same energy because this is about the people. It's
Speaker 1: not about allowed media or very very powerful people. Oh
Speaker 1: you need a hero, Oh, we'll supply him for you.
Speaker 1: And it may not be in alignment with what you
Speaker 1: think it is, but he just looks like the lesser
Speaker 1: of two evils. And again I'm not advocating that Trump
Speaker 1: is that. I'm just saying our job, our highest alignment
Speaker 1: is to that truth and the Constitution, in my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe up against the forty two laws of my aunt,
Speaker 1: but the Constitution is a document that I'm just like
Speaker 1: that system of checks and balances. It pun intended, it
Speaker 1: really checks out, you know, And so getting people to
Speaker 1: inform that way as opposed to letting them box you.
Speaker 1: You know, if I talk about the racist history of
Speaker 1: gun control, because I said, the word racist is going
Speaker 1: to be oh, he must be a leftist, right and
Speaker 1: then when I go, now, that's not what Trump said.
Speaker 1: He didn't say it's fine people on both sides, and
Speaker 1: that was it. Like our job is to be almost
Speaker 1: like our men and women are on their own islands,
Speaker 1: and the island is freedom in the constitution. So you
Speaker 1: can't get trapped by this binary that's what's killing us.
Speaker 1: There's no context, no great area, no nuance.
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Speaker 2: they think very linear, Yeah, and they don't realize that
Speaker 2: everything has a trade off.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Number one, everything has a cost benefit, right, and then
Speaker 2: the nuancet's in that as well. And even kind of
Speaker 2: going back to Trump being critical, I don't think there's
Speaker 2: anybody maybe short of Jesus, but anybody that you would
Speaker 2: want to be one hundred percent for, right, Like, everybody
Speaker 2: makes mistakes and everybodys bad things, and so it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I mostly like him, Like I think Elon Musk has
Speaker 2: done some amazing things. There are things that I'm pretty
Speaker 2: skeptical about, right.
Speaker 1: Right, And so I think you know, you know who's
Speaker 1: the closest though, the closest politician. He is a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, so full full disclosure, Yes, yes, Tom Massey one,
Speaker 1: he's a boss.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm like, dude, like, is.
Speaker 2: That because he took that family photo, the Christmas photo
Speaker 2: and they're all strapped out everything.
Speaker 1: The first time I'm me at Thomas Messey it was
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 3: It was at the.
Speaker 1: It was at the ten year anniversary for DC versus
Speaker 1: Heller and we're out in front of the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: and were chopping it up, and I'm like the Constitution
Speaker 1: and really really good public servants and his stories from
Speaker 1: historical and all of that. I'm like a nerd for that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is the dude. This is that
Speaker 1: dude to me. And so we used to chop it up.
Speaker 1: And when I ran for city council, he graciously came
Speaker 1: and like helped fundraise for me, right, Yeah, And he
Speaker 1: gave this glare because we would chop it up on
Speaker 1: social media and we would call and talk here and
Speaker 1: I would go over to his office and little things
Speaker 1: like that, and he gave me the most. And that's
Speaker 1: not why he's like my guy in my head. He's
Speaker 1: just very very principled.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that statement of if I need to be on
Speaker 1: the island and everybody's gonna be mad at me because
Speaker 1: I'm maintaining this constitutional principle, I think he and Ran Paul,
Speaker 1: and obviously Ron Paul exhibited and exemplified that.
Speaker 3: And I asked him yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, bro, how how how were you
Speaker 1: not able to get swampy? You know? And because I
Speaker 1: felt that that when I was younger. I mean I
Speaker 1: was I was younger, but like your environment is like
Speaker 1: a major catalyst, maybe even the most dominant catalyst for
Speaker 1: your stuff, other than maybe your habits. Right, But like that,
Speaker 1: those things and those principles and those types of dudes,
Speaker 1: I don't think they come around very often when they're
Speaker 1: at that level of public awareness.
Speaker 3: And like, you know, and huge outs to him.
Speaker 1: He's obviously had a devastating lass love and light to
Speaker 1: his his family, but.
Speaker 3: I just that that he's here even after that.
Speaker 1: These are the things that like I honor as like
Speaker 1: solid dudes. Right, and he's never Also he's a genius
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, going back to something you said earlier,
Speaker 2: you said something about being an example for others. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know you talked about starting with a small piece,
Speaker 2: the gun piece, but now it's grown into a bigger thing. Solutionary.
Speaker 2: I love that, right, Let's focus on solutions not problems.
Speaker 2: It doesn't do a lot of good to continually rehash
Speaker 2: the past, right, Like, let's build towards solutions or whatever.
Speaker 2: But anyway, going back to this, like be an example
Speaker 2: for others, Yeah, and that sort of you know, put
Speaker 2: the mask on yourself before you help your neighbor kind
Speaker 2: of thing, right, But I think it's also you know
Speaker 2: where you know, someone asked me a while ago, like
Speaker 2: how do you know you're on the right side? And
Speaker 2: I had to think about that one for a while,
Speaker 2: and I said, because I believe in like live and
Speaker 2: let live like you go do you? But they want
Speaker 2: to tell me what to do, right, And that's the problem.
Speaker 2: So going back to that, right, they want the power
Speaker 2: over you, and you want to be an example for this.
Speaker 2: So it's like more influence, yeah, not power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not interested. This is around Paulline. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Like I can't run your life.
Speaker 1: I mean I could coach you in certain areas, like
Speaker 1: you're trying to get ripped bro, like you want to
Speaker 1: change your diet, but like I have no, there's too
Speaker 1: many X factors in your life that I'm not aware of.
Speaker 1: Of that context, the influence is really more so just
Speaker 1: like okay, here's blueprints, Like it's certain things that if
Speaker 1: you exercise financial, social, cultural, dietary discipline, these will be
Speaker 1: the outcomes by and large the.
Speaker 2: Problems that's money, relationships, and health. Yeah, it just happens
Speaker 2: to be those things.
Speaker 1: Right, there's like you gotta go out of your way
Speaker 1: to really mess up that formula for that formula to
Speaker 1: not work. I just want to influence people for the
Speaker 1: formulas and the blueprints that work. Like you know, I
Speaker 1: just finished reading Dallio's book again Principles, And Okay, this
Speaker 1: makes sense because I remember selling this. Oh I suck
Speaker 1: at this da da da da, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean those loops and so these are blueprints. And
Speaker 1: if you have a constitution, you have a here of
Speaker 1: the basic rules of firearm safety.
Speaker 3: Here's a if you don't drink soda every day.
Speaker 1: Right, these are the things that I just want to
Speaker 1: influence you to do those things. Now I can't make you,
Speaker 1: and I could, but you'd have to like pay me
Speaker 1: tuition because I'd have to really really be on top
Speaker 1: of you. I don't think that the general public would
Speaker 1: not implement those things if they weren't like consistently being
Speaker 1: told to just eat the sugary stuff, to just like
Speaker 1: don't learn anything, Like the scab will heal if you
Speaker 1: stop picking at it. There are entities, and I'm leaning
Speaker 1: more towards that this may be more even spiritual, because
Speaker 1: I don't know a better word for it. There are
Speaker 1: entities that are one hundred percent going to try to
Speaker 1: make you keep picking at the scab as opposed to
Speaker 1: let's just leave them alone and they heal. The influence
Speaker 1: on my part is to just make people do things
Speaker 1: that are gonna just like heal and then grow from
Speaker 1: that healing and by leading by example and leading by
Speaker 1: that example and just going to like, you know, we
Speaker 1: got a solutionary group where we just chop it up.
Speaker 1: Y'all wake up at three point thirty every morning, Like
Speaker 1: I'm I work out, I'm going to drink a minimum.
Speaker 3: Of a half of gallon of water every single day.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like.
Speaker 3: Drink sugary stuff all of the time.
Speaker 1: And I keep going back to sugar because it's like
Speaker 1: six times addictive. It's cocaine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: So there are people or entities and energies that are like, no,
Speaker 1: just drink the soda and water's horrible. It has no taste,
Speaker 1: Like there are people doing it, and so that influence
Speaker 1: in being that example, people will follow it much more.
Speaker 1: I can tell you what to do, but if like
Speaker 1: we in the gym together and I'm pushing you through
Speaker 1: them reps.
Speaker 3: We end this dog fight together, and I think that is.
Speaker 1: More leader than boss, like the boss energy is like, eh,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it, you know. I'm more
Speaker 1: of the energy of now. Obviously, it's chain of command
Speaker 1: and things got to get done. But I'm just a
Speaker 1: fan of like, yo, just do it by example. I
Speaker 1: got to be at the booth overhead moving shirts. I
Speaker 1: have to walk around with the brand. I have to
Speaker 1: show good economic and spiritual discipline. I have to do
Speaker 1: those things otherwise you become you are the intellectual inconsistency.
Speaker 3: You're it, You're literally Yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll think about how we opened up this conversation talking
Speaker 2: about Kobe Yeah, and being influenced by his work ethic right.
Speaker 2: He lived it, yeah, harder than any of us could
Speaker 2: ever live it. But that influences us. It motivates us
Speaker 2: if you will, to like go do that. We saw
Speaker 2: the work he put in and the results he had,
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, I guess I could work harder
Speaker 2: and better results. I'm curious. Two different things we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: We can addressing one at time. But we have a
Speaker 2: massive increase in crime across the country, and that's in
Speaker 2: California with theft under one thousand dollars all the way
Speaker 2: to you know, shootings, right, so all kinds of crime
Speaker 2: at the same time, we have a rise, like a
Speaker 2: rapid seems like increasing crime happening in the United States.
Speaker 2: Down in El Salvador, they went from the most dangerous
Speaker 2: nation in the world to the safest nation in the world.
Speaker 2: So we're seeing like maybe you know, the rule of law,
Speaker 2: like the United States, this foundation of freedom, becoming the
Speaker 2: most dangerous place, and then we have the most dangerous
Speaker 2: place become in the most safest place. I'm curious your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: The money, the changes in like culture, the money, the propaganda.
Speaker 1: If I can tie all of that into money, and
Speaker 1: I can tie all of that into culture. Now what's
Speaker 1: happening is I am of the belief and I have
Speaker 1: no proof of this is just the vibe and watching things.
Speaker 1: It's too well timed in this in all of those
Speaker 1: different areas of lanes at the same time for it
Speaker 1: to be accidental. The sun is going to rise at
Speaker 1: the same time depending on where you're on Earth. That's
Speaker 1: a highly organized phenomenon When it's this much right there.
Speaker 1: I know that government generally becomes really stupid. But it's
Speaker 1: almost you guys are really bad at the same time
Speaker 1: for me to not think that there's evil a few
Speaker 1: evil geniuses somewhere. So in America it's the we didn't
Speaker 1: inform people. Also, we're a republic that damn there, we're
Speaker 1: empire at this point, and your empire a couple of
Speaker 1: years left type energy right.
Speaker 3: Two in fifty years, it's almost up.
Speaker 1: And so all of these these cycles. So the cycles
Speaker 1: along with the lack of information and the lack of application.
Speaker 1: The information is there. The information is there. We had
Speaker 1: we know through dynastic periods and empires. Hey, empires usually
Speaker 1: fall when they do this list of things. And if
Speaker 1: you do this list of things, it's like the workout
Speaker 1: in reverse. And so seeing all of that, and then
Speaker 1: countries that have been through that ugly portion of the
Speaker 1: cycle and they are kind of like, well, we can't
Speaker 1: do that. We already printed everything, all of the bread,
Speaker 1: like we've already did all of this same thing, Like Argentina, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we've got to try something else. Yeah, well, maybe this
Speaker 1: bitcoin thing might not be so bad. And then okay,
Speaker 1: then you gotta got us like we got a slash government.
Speaker 3: We got an alfuerta. It's gone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we need those people here in America,
Speaker 1: with this solid constitutional republic that we have, we need
Speaker 1: those people to say no, I'm getting rid of this.
Speaker 1: This is a waste of time. It's like we just
Speaker 1: don't want to do a like an audit, like our
Speaker 1: own audit of like, Yo, this is bad policy, and
Speaker 1: it just translates in every lane. Education, bad policy, culture,
Speaker 1: bad policy, what a great foundation money, bad post policy.
Speaker 3: And so when you do all of those things.
Speaker 1: My Jewish homie, I'm thinking about converting, right, I've been
Speaker 1: talking about it for a while. My Jewish homie is like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what do you think is the thing?
Speaker 1: The reason why? Economically and culturally? Oh, we don't separate.
Speaker 1: We don't our economics, our culture, and the politics are
Speaker 1: all the same. And I'm like, wow. So now when
Speaker 1: I look at that and I go, man, if they're
Speaker 1: doing something and they're showing success in this that Big Three,
Speaker 1: and then I look at what's happening in the rest.
Speaker 1: You know, in America, you guys are doing the exact opposite.
Speaker 3: In the Big Three.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost I don't know the answer.
Speaker 3: Of the word, but it has to be spiritual.
Speaker 1: I don't know another word that it can incompetence could
Speaker 1: not be this exact At the same time, I believe
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: I believe it's spiritual. It has to be. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think, and I think culturally people are waking up
Speaker 2: to this because you can see there's evil, yeah, like
Speaker 2: you can see it. What's happening to the kids, right,
Speaker 2: I mean it's evil, right, And if there's evil, then
Speaker 2: there has to be good, So then it has to
Speaker 2: be spiritual, right. And I think before maybe it wasn't
Speaker 2: as bad, So maybe there wasn't evil. Some people are
Speaker 2: just bad, but now it seems a lot more apparent.
Speaker 2: But going back to going back to the Jewish thing
Speaker 2: for a minute, right, Like in the Bible, and Jesus
Speaker 2: used money as one of his lessons, like more than
Speaker 2: any other thing you talked about, right, So the money
Speaker 2: is a big piece of it. And then and then
Speaker 2: there's living by a moral code, right, and whether that's
Speaker 2: Mormon or Jewish or Christian or whatever it is, but
Speaker 2: at least there's like some moral code that people get behind.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned earlier, like I can tell you what
Speaker 2: to live or we can lead by example kind of thing,
Speaker 2: And so it's like, you can't really legislate morality, and
Speaker 2: so like I can basically put you in a box
Speaker 2: so you can't hurt anybody else, but I can't really
Speaker 2: legislate it. And so I guess and I didn't think this,
Speaker 2: but tying it back to the original question, which was,
Speaker 2: we see the rise of crime happen everywhere, but then
Speaker 2: El Salvador is lowered down crime, and so you know,
Speaker 2: incentives if they well, I guess if we removed it's
Speaker 2: no longer criminal to steal up to one thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: then people probably steal up to a thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like, wait, are you at nine hundred and
Speaker 3: ninety eight?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: All right? We good? How many times can I go back? Right? Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So then there's incentesists. But at the same time, what
Speaker 2: makes all these people want to go wild out just
Speaker 2: because they can? So then you have kind of both
Speaker 2: and there's the morality and the legislation piece to it.
Speaker 1: I just think that if people kind of like legislatively
Speaker 1: the constitution is solid, bro, Morally, you can't have the
Speaker 1: freedom without the response right, and that moral component of
Speaker 1: going like like I'm a fan of ostracizing people for
Speaker 1: doing morally repugnant stuff. I am a fan of it.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm going to shame you. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, you're a clown.
Speaker 3: If you're a law.
Speaker 1: Enforcement officer and you're not upholding your oath to the constitution,
Speaker 1: that's clown vibes bro. I want to And equally, when
Speaker 1: there's a law enforcement office, a homicide detective is like
Speaker 1: I found out who killed your child, I want to
Speaker 1: champion that person. The moral code is being eroded by
Speaker 1: massive media campaigns, and we with dwindling financial strength and
Speaker 1: all of these other different things are not then going, hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta double down on stepping the morality game up.
Speaker 1: We gotta the reason why it's connected as the person
Speaker 1: maybe not government issued, but the reason why it's connected
Speaker 1: is because there's a form of discipline. Religion like means
Speaker 1: to retie to I have to retie myself to these
Speaker 1: disciplines because this will make me a better person. So
Speaker 1: for example, if I go, I am not gonna be
Speaker 1: a glutton. I'm not gonna overeat, So now my body
Speaker 1: is healthier, which means I'm taking care of this temple
Speaker 1: for longer, this amazing gift that I got from God,
Speaker 1: and I'm here to inform my family for longer. Now
Speaker 1: that discipline translates into hey man, don't overspend, don't.
Speaker 2: Do it, just don't self control, self control.
Speaker 1: These are all tied into moral disciplines, you know. And
Speaker 1: then when you're talking about the constitution, Yo, we got
Speaker 1: to have a system of checks and balances. I get it. All.
Speaker 1: Ten of y'all want to do this thing and I
Speaker 1: want to do this. You guys, don't just get to
Speaker 1: mob rule over me and call it democracy. Because I
Speaker 1: just want to do this and y'all want to do that.
Speaker 1: We have to have that system of checks and balances
Speaker 1: where that individual's right is respected, which is a form
Speaker 1: of discipline.
Speaker 3: Nah, we don't just get the state. We ain't a monarchy.
Speaker 1: Saying all of this to say the general public is
Speaker 1: not being bred into disciplines.
Speaker 3: Trades skills, These are disciplines.
Speaker 1: This is the difference between a Kobe Bryant and a
Speaker 1: Kwame Brown. And I'm not saying that the disc Kwame Brown.
Speaker 1: Kwame Brown was on a team with Michael Jordan and
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. He's not a legend, and so you have
Speaker 1: to make these individual choices and decisions to say, I
Speaker 1: want to improve my community by again being that example.
Speaker 1: But I'm exercising so much discipline. Yo, MIA's what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Or it's one o'clock, I have to take a twenty
Speaker 1: minute and that why because I wake up at three thirty.
Speaker 3: Yo, MAI's just four thirty. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: I am getting ready to go back and get my
Speaker 1: baby ready for tennis camp.
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 2: Areas too?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: Yours too? Right?
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, And it's like, yo, and she's
Speaker 1: when they're in it, you like they're passionate about it
Speaker 1: because it's fun. But there's so many lessons that you
Speaker 1: see for them in that And that's important for me
Speaker 1: to make sure because now she has she gets to
Speaker 1: live that example.
Speaker 3: So because she ain't gonna be in a gym with
Speaker 3: me like doing dead lifts.
Speaker 1: The point being is we have failed to recognize the
Speaker 1: importance of all of these things being interconnected. When we
Speaker 1: talked earlier about that plank scale, it's the same stuff
Speaker 1: at the on a level. So this discipline, this thing
Speaker 1: when it bubbles up into the physical world. It's then
Speaker 1: going to be held to a standard of you know,
Speaker 1: immutable physical laws. But you get that from good solid foundations.
Speaker 1: We aren't explaining it properly. If we're not explaining it properly,
Speaker 1: and somebody those entities are deliberately trying to make the
Speaker 1: tower of babble, so we don't communicate well with each other,
Speaker 1: then nobody can apply it. You know, what's in't that?
Speaker 3: You know who talked to bookbook was that Outwitting the Devil.
Speaker 1: By Napoleon Hill. He kind of talked that Interview with
Speaker 1: the Devil, and that book talks about that, like, yo,
Speaker 1: all you got to do is not drift, stay focused
Speaker 1: and stay on the task. But if we don't even
Speaker 1: know that drifting exists, because somebody is saying, like, no,
Speaker 1: just drift, go ahead, this is life right as somehow
Speaker 1: discipline is contrary to freedom. I've experienced that most of
Speaker 1: the people that don't have no discipline don't never have
Speaker 1: no freedom.
Speaker 2: Freedom comes from the discipline, yeah, you know, yeah, the
Speaker 2: freedom comes from discipe. Most people don't understand that. There
Speaker 2: was a book written called the e Myth Entrepreneurial Myth
Speaker 2: and people think, oh, I'm going to quit my job
Speaker 2: and start my own business so I can be free,
Speaker 2: but then they end up being more of a slave, right,
Speaker 2: And you have to set the systems and the discipline
Speaker 2: and have that freedom. But last topic is you mentioned
Speaker 2: that you know, there's a lot of these disciplines that
Speaker 2: have to kind of come together money, maybe spirituality, things
Speaker 2: like that, and so going back to the money for
Speaker 2: a minute, and you mentioned that maybe the difference between
Speaker 2: the US and El Salvador is the money as well.
Speaker 2: And so you know, when I think about the freedom movement,
Speaker 2: the libertarian movement, things like that, right, Like, well, I
Speaker 2: hope that we can get a better leader, and I
Speaker 2: hope that they won't go against the Constitution, and there's
Speaker 2: all these like things that are hoped. But you mentioned
Speaker 2: right now you mentioned immutable, right, and so we have bitcoin,
Speaker 2: and bitcoin is this immutable technology that no one can control,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's a way to limit their power by
Speaker 2: giving they're taking away their unlimitted check boocket as well, right,
Speaker 2: So never any wars, lockdowns or whatever that whatever that is,
Speaker 2: I'm curious your take on bitcoin.
Speaker 1: My community center in Philadelphia has a bitcoin atum machine
Speaker 1: and I'm in the hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm like, bro, y'all.
Speaker 1: Got to the people that come to the shop and
Speaker 1: they want to get a T shirt or something, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know you get ten.
Speaker 3: Percent off if you buy it in bitcoin?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really you do?
Speaker 1: And then they'll go, well what is I don't understand it?
Speaker 1: And I make them download a simple wallet, like super
Speaker 1: basic wallet. I'm like, yeah, just do this, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you would have paid me twenty five dollars for the shirt, right,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: And then I'll walk them through the process, download the wallet,
Speaker 1: walk them through the process. Boom boom boom. Now when
Speaker 1: they have other things, or they want to take a
Speaker 1: class or they want to get some training, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: pay for it in bitcoin. Then knowing that they should
Speaker 1: hold bitcoin and they don't really know it yet. After
Speaker 1: a while, that other light bulb kicks and they go, bro,
Speaker 1: why am I paying you in bitcoin? Bro? And then
Speaker 1: they start to become more disciplined with their spend.
Speaker 2: Why do you want to right?
Speaker 3: So I like set up for that because.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a I'm not you know how
Speaker 1: people say they're like a crypto whale. I'm not a whale,
Speaker 1: and I actually don't have a tremendous amount of knowledge
Speaker 1: around the subject. I can simplify things though, when I
Speaker 1: go every single time somebody took power from a super
Speaker 1: powerful thing.
Speaker 3: Agency, whatever. To me, banking cartels are very, very powerful.
Speaker 1: So if somebody starts taking power away from them, and
Speaker 1: I just look and juxtapose it. I remember when Napster
Speaker 1: came out and everybody was like the people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is awesome, right this the music spreads, the artist
Speaker 1: gets more concerts because people are like, oh that song
Speaker 1: by that dude because.
Speaker 3: We're sharing or whatever.
Speaker 1: Then I remember how the recording industry was like, we
Speaker 1: are going to destroy you Sean Fanning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hated it right then.
Speaker 1: I remember it with Pirate Bay with DVDs I sold DVDs.
Speaker 1: I remember them going after those dudes. Those dudes were
Speaker 1: like in Sweden and the United States was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're still gonna come holl at.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My point in saying that is, if bitcoin, being that
Speaker 1: transference between I can create store and transfer that wealth
Speaker 1: person to person without these other entities, I start to go, hmm,
Speaker 1: maybe the hood should get.
Speaker 3: A jump on that.
Speaker 1: Ye Because we I mean traditionally again, and when I
Speaker 1: say hood, I don't just mean black communities. If you
Speaker 1: do not live in a really really nice neighborhood, you
Speaker 1: probably live in a hood, suburban, rural.
Speaker 3: Urban, whatever.
Speaker 1: That sound. Monetary supply can be the revolution. That's not bloody, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so from my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, the hood definitely need to get on this.
Speaker 1: And so I'll just inform people that way by just
Speaker 1: getting the machine, putting it there and people go, yo,
Speaker 1: what's this. I want to practice inception and influence, and
Speaker 1: then the information is there, and then I know that
Speaker 1: you're gonna run into a different question for me later.
Speaker 1: If we're in a gym. It's the same thing. If
Speaker 1: we're in a gym, you're gonna say, Yo, why don't
Speaker 1: my arms hurt? Or why don't my legs hurt? Two
Speaker 1: days after we did legs? Oh, here's why? And what
Speaker 1: should I potassium? I got you some coconut with it?
Speaker 1: You know. So this may be and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this to like hype it up, bro, like you already know,
Speaker 1: but the viewers may need to rehear this. Bitcoin may
Speaker 1: single handedly be the thing that saves this republics as
Speaker 1: like grandiose as that sounds, and when you watch the
Speaker 1: powers that be that are doing the media propaganda on it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, y'all are really really intimidated by that.
Speaker 1: I wonder why, for the same reason why somebody else
Speaker 1: will go why you want the biitcoin?
Speaker 3: Well, why I can't. What are you going to?
Speaker 1: Man bro? Every time I do this and then those
Speaker 1: lessons come, and so I think that, oh, I hope
Speaker 1: that we don't all the way crash out, because again
Speaker 1: I am a high school dropout. I have a ged
Speaker 1: but I kind of nominally understand things I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how bad it would be if, at the
Speaker 1: same time, the most powerful nation in the world, maybe
Speaker 1: in world history, the reserve money that falls during a
Speaker 1: time when that entire nation is going through a cultural, economic,
Speaker 1: and social upheaval or degradation. I am afraid, and I
Speaker 1: choose my words very carefully of the international impact of
Speaker 1: that on war on you know, I'm afraid for that.
Speaker 1: So I think that more and more people being involved
Speaker 1: bitcoin and sound monetary choices or not monetary in that sense,
Speaker 1: but like not FIAT. But I'm just I'm hopeful that
Speaker 1: more people will get in, so I'm willing to do
Speaker 1: my part to inform the people that are traditionally not
Speaker 1: involved in that conversation, as well as respecting the fear
Speaker 1: when that and gut feelings start kicking up and go
Speaker 1: all like, bro, we got to kind of do something
Speaker 1: about this, because there's never been a time where like this,
Speaker 1: this goes good with what we're doing, and maybe we're
Speaker 1: the exception possibly, but historic history doesn't say that we
Speaker 1: get through that smooth, right, you know, so maybe bitcoin will.
Speaker 3: Be the bloodless revolution.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Cool, well, wrap it
Speaker 2: up with that good stuff. A lot of good takeaways
Speaker 2: from this, but the one I would say probably is
Speaker 2: just you know, live it, be the influence, be the change,
Speaker 2: and not by telling people to do, by demonstrating it
Speaker 2: right and empowering people to focus on solutions, solutionary rather
Speaker 2: than problems. Cool.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, appreciate you for sure, Y,