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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday underway action on

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Speaker 2: the pitch overseas, full slate of games. We got a

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Speaker 2: game seven. One of the glorious phrases we get to

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Speaker 2: use in sports. We're coming off the excitement of the

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby. Okay, I was excited for the sixth race

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Speaker 2: because actually won that one. All right, congratulation Shelby later,

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Speaker 2: my brothers and the greatness of the horses name. It

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Speaker 2: wwe tie in and and harken back to the days

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Speaker 2: of yesteryear, we've won. But they're heading back from Kentucky today,

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Speaker 2: so good job by them to get things flowing. But

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Speaker 2: we also have game one of the Eastern Conference Playoffs

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Speaker 2: second round underway. Cleveland and Indian app Indiana. I always

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Speaker 2: want to call them INDIANAPO. It's because I'm watching football

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Speaker 2: on one of our monitors. So the brain starts, all right,

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Speaker 2: what are the Colts doing?

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Speaker 3: Dan?

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Speaker 2: No, we're watching Dave. We've got the top ten games

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, so it's that Bill's Rams game.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching it, going Wow, predicting. It's like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of points. Just sit back and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Mike Carbon alongside Dan Byer with you. This morning we

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Speaker 2: got Scotty Scheffler. Is he gonna win by fifteen strokes

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Speaker 2: or what?

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Speaker 3: Probably there's been enough criticism about this course and the

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Speaker 3: low scores that you can shoot on it. But when

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Speaker 3: one guy is just leaving everybody in the dust, it

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Speaker 3: makes for a kind of oh it could have been event,

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Speaker 3: but my goodness, sixty one, sixty three, sixty six, just

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Speaker 3: put it on cruise control. Shooting under or shooting even

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Speaker 3: par got you nowhere, you're home for the weekend. This

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Speaker 3: weekend on the PGA tour TBC Craig Rant.

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Speaker 2: The way it flows right, CJ Cup Byron Nelson hometowns.

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Speaker 2: Scheffler taking advantage of the digs and just dominating. Does

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Speaker 2: it get you used them? And obviously it's not a

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Speaker 2: major but and certainly the low scores that becomes the everyman.

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Speaker 2: It's like, ah, whatever do you want it to be?

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Speaker 3: Hard?

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Speaker 2: Like where do you come off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with this, especially on a tour stop.

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Speaker 3: Plus we're a couple of weeks away from the PGA Championship.

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Speaker 3: And what I do like Mike about this is I

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Speaker 3: do think that golf was hurt by the split with

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Speaker 3: Live and the PGA Tour and the players breaking off

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Speaker 3: and some of the players breaking off and going to

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Speaker 3: the Live Tour. However, we've seen a bit of a resurgence.

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Speaker 3: Bryce into Shamba. I think he's had a big role

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Speaker 3: in that. He just won the live event that took

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Speaker 3: place this past weekend. He obviously didn't have a great

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Speaker 3: found a round of the Masters, but is obviously inform.

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Speaker 3: We have Rory now coming off of the career Grand

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Speaker 3: Slam and the Masters. He is in form. And now

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Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler wins this. We're getting the big dogs back.

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Speaker 3: And so now you've got a major coming up in

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. And when we're wondering with storylines

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Speaker 3: and is it just going to be PGA Tour versus Live,

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Speaker 3: I think we've kind of moved away from that. And

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Speaker 3: now you've got three of the top guys who are

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Speaker 3: on their way. I think maybe now golf is on

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Speaker 3: the rebound back up at least let's hope so.

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Speaker 2: Well need those big names, that schedules. We were talking

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Speaker 2: a little bit before the red light went on, is

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Speaker 2: just the idea of what brings people to the yard. Right,

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Speaker 2: we're getting ready for the next iteration of the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: You know, Caitlin Clark may or may not play later

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Speaker 2: on today leg injury. We saw some gruesome takedowns in

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Speaker 2: some of these exhibition games, like wow, that's that was

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Speaker 2: worth a point in you know, Greco Roman wrestling for

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing, but the anticipation of another year, Pagebeckers,

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Speaker 2: all these other players coming into the league. But it

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Speaker 2: takes a couple of stars and people with money to

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Speaker 2: decide that they're in right. Golf going back to always

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Speaker 2: a healthy game. Boxing's healthy in its own space, but

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Speaker 2: it doesn't hit that zenith unless you've got a big

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Speaker 2: hopefully for golf. You know, you're never going to recreate

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Speaker 2: the zenith that was Tiger Woods. But when you wait

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Speaker 2: on greatness and guys performing consistently, I mean that fuels everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say men's basketball, but NBA, WNBA, PGA, Tour.

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Speaker 3: I think even NHL, there are generational players and maybe

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Speaker 3: For as great as the NBA was, Magic of Bird obviously,

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark in the WNBA, Yeah, on a new plane,

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Speaker 3: a new level, if you will. You need those generational talents,

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Speaker 3: and then people will come in and be even more interested.

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Speaker 2: And the money starts flowing through more ad campaigns, more dollars,

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Speaker 2: international expansion, all of those kind of things. As we go, Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll touch on Greg Popovich stepping away from the sideline,

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Speaker 2: because whenever those kind of things happened, you know, it

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Speaker 2: takes takes me, It gives me pause. Right, there were

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Speaker 2: just things that you know, what do they always talk

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Speaker 2: you liked or didn't like about the man, he was

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Speaker 2: a constant force in the NBA. And you can't argue

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Speaker 2: anything other than being good for the game. And now

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's the longest reigning coach anywhere. So we got

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Speaker 2: that Clippers with another exit. And the most interesting part

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Speaker 2: that was over a year old. It was a very

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Speaker 2: well traveled clip, but it was another resounding reminder of

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Speaker 2: trusting a team led by James Harden is going to

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Speaker 2: be potentially problematic once we get to the playoffs. And

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Speaker 2: we watched Denver absolutely boat race the Clippers. So the

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Speaker 2: two best stories were a viral clip which is old

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Speaker 2: want your squad because he spends money. Now, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much you can recreate a home court advantage

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Speaker 2: or what home court advantage means other than the free

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Speaker 2: at the Intuit Dome. But flying one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, and if anything, it's neat for those

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Speaker 3: fans to be able to go to a game. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: they had to watch their team lose by nineteen points

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Speaker 3: in a game that really wasn't even that close in

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Speaker 3: the second half at times. So that's a tough part

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Speaker 3: of being a Clipper fan. But at least for those fans,

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Speaker 3: like the efforts from Steve Balmer and trying to make

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Speaker 3: You're gonna need thousands. Okay, this is a Game seven

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Speaker 3: in Denver, a team smarting after what happened to them

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Speaker 3: conference semifinals. So it was a tough task no matter

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Speaker 3: what for the Clippers, for ty lu for Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 3: for James Harden, for those one hundred and twenty five fans. Mike,

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Speaker 3: I like the efforts. I like Steve Balmer trying to

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Speaker 3: make this a college atmosphere. But here's the deal. Those

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Speaker 3: college atmospheres a lot of times are just organic, and

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Speaker 3: team comes into town, you're an underdog, you have that

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Speaker 3: crazy weekend, and you're fueled by eighteen and twenty one

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Speaker 3: It's just very difficult to duplicate in in professional sports.

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Speaker 3: I love the thinking of it. I love the thought press,

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Speaker 3: a thought process behind it. It's just never going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that curiosity of you know, doing something,

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Speaker 2: trying something different, right, trying to break through the Clippers,

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Speaker 2: still trying to find that elusive pathed you know, across

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Speaker 2: the rainbow to the pot of gold. Mean, Bauber's got

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Speaker 2: plenty of goal, but you can't buy a title no

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Speaker 2: being asked in post because well, we didn't win anything,

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Speaker 2: they played in Spurts They did have a fifty win season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kawhi miss time but then came back. It was more

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Speaker 2: of his normal self. Jims Harten only put up eight shots,

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Speaker 2: even on the broadcast they brought it up. It's like,

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Speaker 2: if I've got that guy, he's got to go down

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Speaker 2: guns blazing, right, it can't be a passive look to

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Speaker 2: distribute the ball kind of situation. That's what you had,

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Speaker 2: all the starters between eight and thirteen attempts. Kawhi finishes

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Speaker 2: with twenty two. Conversely for Denver, all five starters in

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Speaker 2: double figures. And then you get the Russell Westbrook. How

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Speaker 2: long is a revenge game? How long do you get that?

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Speaker 3: Like for like meetings wise like because now we're in

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Speaker 3: game seven of the series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's way after.

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Speaker 3: Game one or is it the whole entire series? There

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you channel that? If you're the coach

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Speaker 3: I actually kind of feel it's the same thing with

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Speaker 3: James Harden. But I almost feel, Mike that we were

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Speaker 3: in a way fooled by James Harden. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: say this and this is it's not to be contrarian,

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Speaker 3: it's not to be different. I just I think that

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Speaker 3: we pile on too much. Losing on the road in

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Speaker 3: a game seven, in a four or five matchup, it happens,

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Speaker 3: and I do feel sometimes who make these sweeping judgments James.

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Speaker 3: If you want to criticize James Harden for what he

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Speaker 3: did do or hasn't done in his career, I think

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Speaker 3: that windows passed. I feel like it was prime Houston

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Speaker 3: the criticism. I get that people maybe not like how

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Speaker 3: or in other spots. But I even saw a graphic

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Speaker 3: last night Mike from Yahoo Sports that said, this is

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Speaker 3: the fourth team that James Harden has lost a game

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Speaker 3: seven in ye and I just thought to myself, I

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Speaker 3: the Brooklyn Nets a little bit. But the seventy six

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Speaker 3: ers were Joel Embiid's team. This Clippers team is Kawhi

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Speaker 3: makes the NBA exhausting at times. Is this piling on

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Speaker 3: everything is everything is something, And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 3: James Harden should be absolved of anything, but I just

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Speaker 3: don't think that this is his team I think he

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Speaker 3: kept this team afloat during the regular season when they

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Speaker 3: didn't have Kawhi Leonard, and that was a big deal

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Speaker 3: in thirty two points in a game earlier in the

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Speaker 3: and then you have nine points that I've there's seven points,

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, I gave him too more than he should

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Speaker 2: That's okay, what's a nice bonus.

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Speaker 3: I get the whole deal. But it's just like, we're

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Speaker 3: waiting for these players to fail, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: It's that relationship where you're looking around, it's like, yeah,

430
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: we gotta go to this, Yeah I gotta go do that,

431
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, you don't want to do that.

432
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: So at some point a conversation needs to be had,

433
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: and I think with Giannis and the Bucks, after twelve years,

434
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: this overtime loss and a four to one exit, another

435
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: early exit might be that point.

436
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Speaker 3: I think the conversation has to be had, and I

437
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: want to ask Shae, producer, Shay and Chris Purfat a question.

438
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: This is not trivia time. This is not for me

439
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 3: to fool you. This is just and I think Michael

440
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: understand this. There's there's a point to it. Do you

441
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: know how old Yannis is? Say? Do you have a

442
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: guess on how old Yannis is? Oh?

443
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Speaker 1: God, that's a great question, like thirty Okay, Chris.

444
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say at this point, God, I'm gonna say

445
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Speaker 5: thirty two.

446
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Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any wrong answer because I

447
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 3: don't think we care. Same thing with Yokic. I had

448
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: to look up how old Nicole Jolkicic was yesterday because honestly,

449
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: wasn't sure how old he was. They're both thirty, so

450
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: Shay was right on the number. Chris d no probably

451
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: didn't want to double up, but ballpark. But you don't

452
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: know they're twenty eight. You don't know they're thirty two.

453
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: But there is a difference when you get into your thirties.

454
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Speaker 3: And to your point, there's now twelve years into the league,

455
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 3: but he's still thirty, so you're thinking there's prime years

456
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: left there's nothing that he has shown outside of a

457
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Speaker 3: few injuries over the last few years that think that

458
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: he would dramatically drop off from where he is. But

459
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: the conundrum is this is this is a team that

460
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: won a title now four years ago, and aside from

461
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Speaker 3: one game seven run in the Eastern Conference Semifinals, has

462
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Speaker 3: been bounced from the first round of the playoffs. They

463
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: now have Damian Lillard who's going to be coming off

464
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Speaker 3: of an achilles injury that you don't even know if

465
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: he's available next year. They don't own their own first

466
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Speaker 3: round pick and have it to pick until twenty thirty one.

467
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Speaker 3: Twenty thirty one is the where is the first year

468
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Speaker 3: that they don't have a pick swap or don't have

469
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Speaker 3: their pick like that's for the first round pick. So

470
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Speaker 3: you're talking about the copboard being bear in a way,

471
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: there's no where to go. And the craziest thing about this, Mike,

472
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: is all the words out of Milwaukee are Yiannis isn't

473
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: going anywhere, which isn't necessarily surprising. But I just saw

474
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Speaker 3: an article on The Athletic where they broke down four

475
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: trade scenarios and the summation of all four of those

476
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Speaker 3: trade scenarios where the Bucks aren't getting enough in return,

477
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Speaker 3: and I think that adds to this conundrum of not

478
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: only what do the Bucks do, who out there is

479
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 3: going to pay enough to make it worthwhile for the

480
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Speaker 3: Bucks to do this. Considering that Giannis is now thirty,

481
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Speaker 3: there is a little bit of injury history in the past,

482
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Speaker 3: but you would get a prime player. But I would

483
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Speaker 3: also argue Mike that right now hasn't shown the ability

484
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: to play with other stars or other top caliber players

485
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Speaker 3: and make it work. Holiday Chris Middleton trio that they

486
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: formed to beat the Suns in the finals, Yannis had

487
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: fifty in Game six, that was half of their team's points.

488
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: And the conversation through all those processes where Drew Holliday

489
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: isn't a real number two, Maybe Middleton's the number two two.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't know, it doesn't matter. I think that they

491
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: were both threes and I think it worked so and

492
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: they guess what they had other guys around Bobby Portis,

493
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: Berk Lopez. By the way, all those guys still there,

494
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: which is probably a problem. Maybe we needed to move off,

495
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Speaker 3: you know, if you're a Milwaukee of those players at

496
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Speaker 3: some point. So it's just it's it's not the easiest

497
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: question in the world to be like, oh, yeah, we're

498
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Speaker 3: gonna trade Giannis, which I think everybody pivoted to. But

499
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: you've done everything that you can to also accommodate him

500
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: and it hasn't worked out. So now where do you

501
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: get go? So there's just so many hurdles for them

502
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 3: to jump in and right now in a place of

503
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: going nowhere fast in the Eastern Conference.

504
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: Oh, we talk about stars and big moves don't happen

505
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: in a vacuum, right, Coaching changes, personnel moves. They made

506
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: the splash, and unfortunately we didn't get to see what

507
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 2: could have been with Damian Liller, right, we didn't get

508
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: to see it down the stretch of the season, hopefully

509
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: health wise, right from the just the nuts and bolts

510
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: of it all, he's okay, and then obviously coming off

511
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: of the Achilles injury as a whole other thing, we

512
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: don't know if we see him at all this coming year. Also,

513
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: not a young quote young guy, right, because we keep

514
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: going back because thirty is younger, but it's not right.

515
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: In every other aspect of your working life, thirty is

516
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: you're just getting started, right, You're just figuring out who

517
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: the hell you are and where you're going in the

518
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: life of an NBA player, particularly one of a high caliber.

519
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: You've been playing professional basketball for a long time, a

520
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: lot of weary minutes, and when your team's good, you're

521
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: adding an extra month. That's why you know you marvel

522
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: and you want really a deep dive on you know

523
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: what guys like Lebron James and some of these veteran

524
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: players in any sport do to keep their bodies in check.

525
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Obviously they have a lot of money, but what are

526
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: they doing physically that helps keep them at the top

527
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: of their game. But eventually, for all but well and

528
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: even even Lebron, whether you believe the latest done the

529
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: injury or not, you start showing age and you start

530
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: showing where and you're trying to figure out where that

531
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Speaker 2: tipping point is as an organization as to how much

532
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: further you can you can push that. Yeah, he's your guy,

533
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: and he's preached loyalty and whatever else, But at some

534
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: point you're recognizing you're just running in place while the

535
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: rest of the Eastern Conference has gotten better around you.

536
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: And the Pistons seem like they're going to be around

537
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: for a while with their Core. For some reason, the

538
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: Bucks can't get past the Pacers. It's there, it's their bugaboo.

539
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: They're not even close to being better than the Celtics.

540
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have beaten the Calves in a playoff series

541
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Speaker 3: if they somehow rally from a three to one deficit

542
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: without Dame. So there's yeah, there there are some steps behind.

543
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Speaker 3: And I feel like you mentioned Lebron, and I feel

544
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: the same way with Brady Is. We're fooled that a

545
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: lot of these guys can play that long. Yeah, and

546
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: so we think, like, oh, Lebron's did is forty, so

547
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: Yanis will have another decade. If Giannis is doing this

548
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: at thirty five, I'll be amazed.

549
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Speaker 2: But that's it, right, yeah, Like, and it's the dangerous thing, yep.

550
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: Like I only bring it up because look, as a

551
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: guy that's entered his fifties, changing up a ton of things, right,

552
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: I've been lamenting this morning. I ate a little something

553
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: that I've been on this PhD weight loss diet here

554
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: as part of our program at Fox Sports Radio. And

555
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, you keep yourself regimented. While I went off

556
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: the beaten path a little bit with my daughter, and

557
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: today I feel like I have a medicine ball around

558
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: my stomach. So it's one of those things that like,

559
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: all right, trust the process of what you're doing and

560
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: stay through. And it takes a lot of discipline, and

561
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: we always get into that dangerous point where we pick

562
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: the guys that are the absolute best, right whenever we're

563
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: comparing quarterbacks, like well Tom Brady did this, Like Tom

564
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Brady's the greatest of all time. He doesn't get to

565
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: be included in this conversation, correct or Lebron. But for

566
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Speaker 2: the purpose of health and conditioning, just trying to glean

567
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: those insights, and maybe they're just unicorns. Maybe they went

568
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: down to the crossroads. I don't know, but all those

569
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: things to say for Yannis and company, it's a very

570
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: uncomfortable place to be. And I feel for you because

571
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: once upon a time I knew superstars in Chicago.

572
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: It's been a while for you. They are at a

573
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: spot and if Giannis comes back, there's gonna be there's

574
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: got to be wholesale changes around it. Coaching wise, who knows.

575
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Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't think that Doc Rivers

576
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: was the answer. I felt that Doc got a lot

577
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Speaker 3: of heat at the time, but Doc was a never

578
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: never in jeopardy of losing his job last season when

579
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Speaker 3: they fell apart, when Giannis and Dame were hurt, they

580
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: were paying You would have been paying four coaches. You

581
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Speaker 3: would have been paying Bootenholzer, you would have been paying

582
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Speaker 3: Adrian Griffin, you would have been paying Doc, and then

583
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Speaker 3: you would have had to pay the new guy. Well,

584
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: they're not paying paying Bootenholzer anymore, So he's gone, So

585
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: he's off the book. So now you're figuring out Adrian

586
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: Griffin and Doc Rivers. But so there's still the question

587
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: of then how much do you want to pay coaching wise,

588
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: and is you know, a coaching change going to be

589
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: the difference. I don't think so. I don't think Docs

590
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: and jeopardy of losing his job at all. But you

591
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: got to look at everything and changing in how you

592
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: change things around. And I don't think he's necessarily the answer.

593
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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's going going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: off the air. Now it's time to take a trip

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Speaker 2: over to the news desk getting update on what's going

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Speaker 2: on in our sporting universe with the legend himself. It's

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lowandron.

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Speaker 6: Indeed, hello fellas, and two of the most magical words,

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Speaker 6: probably the two most magical words in sports. Game seven's

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Speaker 6: and that's what we got to talk about through Auto motal.

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Speaker 3: Dinners ready and tacos Dinners Dinner's ready, free tacos Game

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Speaker 3: seven all the same.

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Speaker 6: You know, you could literally have that all in the

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Speaker 6: same Game seven. Perhaps that's an idea for the sports

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Speaker 6: marketers out there. On Saturday night, in Game seven of

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Speaker 6: the NBA Playoffs, Denver defeated the Los Angeles Clippers one

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Speaker 6: twenty to one oh one. They led by as many

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Speaker 6: as thirty five and will now face West one seed

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma City in the Conference Semis beginning on Monday, coming

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Speaker 6: up at six pm Eastern this evening Game one of

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Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference semi Finals from Cleveland as the Cavaliers

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Speaker 6: host the Indiana Pacers. Then tonight eight thirty Eastern, Game

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Speaker 6: seven of the opening round from Houston, with the Rockets

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Speaker 6: hosting the Golden State Warriors. Now in Game seven of

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Speaker 6: the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night, the Dallas Stars

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00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 6: rallied from two nothing down with twelve twelve left in

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Speaker 6: the third period to shock the Colorado Avalanche four to two,

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Speaker 6: as former ab Miko Ranton had had a hat trick

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Speaker 6: and an assist in the third period alone.

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Speaker 5: Here was the kapper.

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Speaker 7: Sega Claire's granted in for the hat trick. Odurs good

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Speaker 7: hats right down and the Stars we'll move on.

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Speaker 6: Josh Bogorad with a call on k tck Ranton in

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Speaker 6: the first player in Stanley Cup playoff history to have

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Speaker 6: a third period hat trick in a Game seven. So

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Speaker 6: Dallas we'll face tonight's Game seven winner between the Winnipeg

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Speaker 6: Jets and Saint Louis Blues. Face off of that game

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Speaker 6: at seven pm Eastern, and a short time ago, the

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Speaker 6: Jets just ruled out forward Mark Schiffley due to an

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Speaker 6: undisclosed injury. Shifley with two goals and four assists of

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Speaker 6: the first five games of the series, and scored thirty

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Speaker 6: nine goals during the regular season, the second most on

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Speaker 6: the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Guys, back to you, Thanks so much, Ilo, I had

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lohankron. Where you find him next, how We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a little highlight of what else ILOs got in

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Speaker 2: his bag. Angel City FC. Some tremendous action on the pitch,

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer with me on Mike Carmen, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Shay

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Speaker 2: Christ making a sound so pretty, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: all get together as we do each and every Sunday,

651
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Speaker 2: and we'll leave you thinking about this. Who was left

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Speaker 2: that's still the best? Took everything to not do a

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Speaker 2: Rick Flair impression. We'll try to figure out what that's

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Speaker 2: all about next.

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Speaker 1: Here on Fox you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday,

657
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Speaker 2: Mike Carmen alongside Dan Byer having a blast with you.

658
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Speaker 2: It's a song that sounds so appropriate for me in

659
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: so many other, so many ways. So I'm gonna filibuster

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Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna hand the stick microphone over to you.

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Speaker 3: Dan, I will say it is my favorite holl of

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Speaker 3: Oats song, is it? Yes?

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Speaker 5: It is dar karaoke Jim at your karaoke Jam says

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Speaker 5: if I have one song to do karaoke for, it's

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Speaker 5: out of touch.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of great ones, but this is

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Speaker 3: Numero uno on on my list. Another great song is

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Speaker 3: the theme to the feud, Let's play it, Let's get

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Speaker 3: the Fox Family together. Top seven answers on the board

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Speaker 3: today for the Fox Family, made up Mike Harmon, Chris Burfett.

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00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: I've kind of bypassed and try and trying to pronounce

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Speaker 3: Shay's last name, so I've called them producer Shay. That

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Speaker 3: guy Shae Mahanguard.

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Speaker 1: Is that I was probably the wow you out yourself job.

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00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Thank you? And Isaac Loh and Kron make up the

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Speaker 3: Fox Family. Top seven answers on the board. There's no

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Speaker 3: pass in this one, and part of the reason why

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Speaker 3: is I think a perfect game could be an effect here.

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00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: No pressure.

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: Top seven answers on the board, no pass available. But

681
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: there's been some coaching moves that now leave just seven

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Speaker 3: current NBA coaches who are still coaching in the league

683
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Speaker 3: that have won an NBA title. Let's name them all, right,

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Speaker 3: Mike Harmon, the seven current NBA coaches who have won

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Speaker 3: an NBA title as a head coach. We start with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a little off the grid because we're

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Speaker 2: questioning how much blame he gets.

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: Tyleru Tylu, Show me Tylu did it in twenty sixteen

689
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Over to Chris Purfett.

690
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: I know I haven't checked him in them a second.

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00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: Is Eric Spolstra still coaching the heat?

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Speaker 3: Is that your answer?

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Speaker 5: That is my answer?

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Speaker 3: Show me Eric Spolstra. There it is spolsterra off the

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Speaker 3: board twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. Over to Shay.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the easy one off the board. It's

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Speaker 1: so sorry, Ilough, It's gonna be Steve Kerr.

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Speaker 3: Steve Kerr, show me Steve Kerr. All right, three for

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Speaker 3: three told you guys this would be cake work, cakewalk,

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Speaker 3: easy work. I felt bad after last week and missing

701
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Harmon's Texas A and M on the draft, so I'm like,

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Speaker 3: let's just make it easy on myself as well. With

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Speaker 3: only seven answers. Over to Isaac Loohing.

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Speaker 2: Cross, Joe Missoula.

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00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: Oh, Joe Missoula. I wondered if people would forget show

706
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Speaker 3: me Joe Missoula winning at last year with the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Over to Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just had that. It was on the tip

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Speaker 2: of my Doc Rivers, Doc River just talked about it.

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Speaker 3: We had just talked about him. Show me, Doc Rivers,

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Speaker 3: all right to left, perfect game, still intact, No strikes,

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Speaker 3: Chris Purfett.

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Speaker 5: This is where I'm starting to run out of the

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Speaker 5: names of coaches who I know off the top of

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Speaker 5: my head. No, I I don't. I don't remember enough

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Speaker 5: coaches in the NBA. Okay, to be honest, I'm just

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Speaker 5: gonna have to just throw it out there.

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Speaker 3: Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd, we know he won one as

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Speaker 3: a player, is it, Jason Kidd? It is not. It

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Speaker 3: is not first strike Over to producer Shay Coaches current

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Speaker 3: NBA coaches who have won an NBA title. So we

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Speaker 3: got Doc, we got the answers on the board are

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Speaker 3: Doc Rivers, Eric Spolstra, Steve Kerr, Tyler, and Joe Missoula.

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Speaker 1: Joe Missoula, so Celtics who's won recently? Warriors?

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Speaker 3: We did that? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Is he still the coach though? Is the Raptors coach

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Speaker 1: still the coach?

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Speaker 3: Who would be the coach you're talking about? We are

729
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: going to need a name.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, please tell me out here. You're going to

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Speaker 1: take this one from me.

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to nurse? This answer is? That's

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Speaker 2: what it is. That's nurse. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: I need I need, I needed that. That wasn't my hint,

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Speaker 1: you know he was.

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Speaker 3: That was completely innocent. That was brilliant, all right, Isaac

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Speaker 3: long Cron.

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Speaker 6: When I asked if if you wanted me to nurse?

739
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Speaker 6: The answer out of you just in the nick of time.

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Speaker 6: It was actually a long preamble too, suggesting Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, okay, and Rick Carlisle is another, I

742
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Speaker 1: think right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I on Isaac's turned I think he was conference.

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: Show me Rick Carlyle. There it is, You're seventh.

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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Let's put it on his back right now.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was this was pretty interesting because we

747
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: just had Popovich step aside. Yeah, so he had eight

748
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: budenhols are won one with the Bucks. Oh he was

749
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Speaker 3: recently let go by the Suns. So there's nine. So

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of like in the NFL, sometimes

751
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Speaker 3: you're like, geez, how many coaches have actually won Super Bowls?

752
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: In the NBA, it felt like it was it was

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Speaker 3: a bigger number than I realized.

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Speaker 5: I just I just was blanking on names entirely, Like

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Speaker 5: I knew Billy Donovan on my head, but like, no,

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Speaker 5: he hasn't won one. I'm thinking of college, Like I just,

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00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, it's just hard for me to

758
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: remember all these guys names because they move around constantly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's hard to remember, honestly of who's the

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00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: coach where like we joke with the Thunder's success, Mark

761
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: deagno is considered one of the best coaching minds in

762
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Speaker 3: the game. And I honestly still think people think Billy

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00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: Donovan is coaching the Thunder right Like I can.

764
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Speaker 2: I can attest to the fact that he's.

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Speaker 3: Not molder of Vike's bullsbsolutely, but I think that that's

766
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: that's that's interesting, Like back in the day, I felt

767
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: like maybe there are fewer teams. Also back in the day,

768
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Speaker 3: but I think there are certain teams around where you're

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Speaker 3: not remembering who the coaches are, don't know the names,

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00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: and some of the You know, like I, I don't

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00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: blame anybody for not knowing the Wizard's head coach or

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Speaker 3: the Hornets head coach. And then when you start thinking

773
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Speaker 3: of who actually won, we had to go back to

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Speaker 3: eight with Doc twenty eleven with Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, even even mid season, I thought Dwayne

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Speaker 5: Casey won that championship with the Raptors, not Nick Nurse.

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Speaker 2: I am, but that's the difficulty have it right, with

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00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: the number of guys as they shuffle out. You talk

779
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: about veteran players coaching forcing out veteran coaches that you

780
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Speaker 2: could probably plunk a giant pile of money and just

781
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Speaker 2: say which some of these teams, like I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: And only spolstruk Kerr and Missoula are with the their

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Speaker 3: teams that they won the titles with No that's it.

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Speaker 2: Win Coach of the Year. Get fired. He's Dan, I'm Mike.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, More and

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Speaker 2: NBA Talk, including Well, we've got to have the funeral

787
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Speaker 2: for the Lakers. Let's get it on hour two of

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Speaker 2: the program. A quick sprint here. It's Fox Sports Radios,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. He's Dan, Byer my co host the

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Speaker 2: I Want Your Flex Podcast Fantasy Football. Goodness, we had

791
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Speaker 2: our mock draft ahead of the actual draft. We'll have

792
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: to revisit that at some point. With all the movings

793
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Speaker 2: moving and movers and shakers, the new would be stars.

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Speaker 2: I called it the stacking the cupboard draft for the

795
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft in that we had a couple of stars, yes,

796
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: but otherwise it's all about foundational pieces.

797
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: How is the NFL Draft going to look trading card wise?

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Speaker 3: Like for these draft picks, are we gonna, like guess,

799
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Speaker 3: shoudors cards gonna be hot? Or it's a cam Ward

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Speaker 3: because there's not a lot of flash. It wasn't a

801
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: flashy draft. Ashton gen d card's gonna be hot?

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00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: What do you think, Genty Hunter? Now with the change

803
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: in contracts and nil and everything else, there have already

804
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: been cards of these guys for a couple of years now, right,

805
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: So like I have in possession from a few years back. Hell,

806
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: there's Juju Watkins cards from twenty twenty two, yes, twenty three,

807
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: right when she was just coming into into college. So

808
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: you can, you know, look at the timeline of that.

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00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: So I've got a couple that are already three years old,

810
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: both Hunter and shador But yes, now you get them

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Speaker 2: in their pro teams start adding all of the licensing

812
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: and you know Bravado that goes with the Panini products

813
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: and now Tops and Fanatics taking over that license next year.

814
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: So you start looking at some of the classic names

815
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: and brands coming back into the forefront. So yeah, between

816
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: genty Hunter, Shador Ward. While they have cards in the past, yeah,

817
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: they'll be sought after, always looking for that next star,

818
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: that next investment piece, especially low numbered case hits. That's

819
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: the big thing now Dan, it's the case hit right,

820
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: So out of a twenty box case, you might get

821
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: one of this cool insert set. So right now they've

822
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: got something called Downtown, so it'll have a skyline and

823
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: an interpretation. Every year it'll be a different kind of

824
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: representation of a city and different players. So like this

825
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: year they started doing duels. So like for the Vikings,

826
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Speaker 2: there's a McCarthy and Jefferson card or the old Staples.

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00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: You start bringing back cards from Joe Montana because there's

828
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: still a collector base looking to add another Joe Montana.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. That's what I've said, is I remember if

830
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: you go through your old maybe tops from nineteen eighty sets.

831
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: I have the eighty five set that I got for Christmas.

832
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: You look back, I remember, like Dwight Stevenson, the old

833
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: Dolphin Center sure had cards. You're not getting Center cards anymore.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of sets that are still expansive, right

835
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: where you'll have a four hundred card set. No, no, no,

836
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: but they're they're they're the rarity. Like most sets are

837
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: one hundred, maybe one hundred veteran base and then one

838
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: hundred rookies, so you'll start getting guys that are undrafted

839
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: free agents, seventh round draft picks, and part of that,

840
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: they do a thing out here, pulling back the curtain

841
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: with my way too much knowledge on a Sunday morning

842
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: of this. But everybody collected cards, even if just a

843
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: little bit, maybe a Pokemon, same thing. But they have

844
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: a thing out here called the Rookie Premiere, so it's

845
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 2: where they get their photo. And it got ruined because

846
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: people started leaking how they were putting some of these

847
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: shots together, so they kind of tightened up security. Well,

848
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: once upon a time you had upper deck tops and

849
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Panini slash dners, and they'd be in different parts of

850
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: say the Coliseum here in Los Angeles, and they'd go

851
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: from station to station and then they'd have a table

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00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: where they'd be signing stickers or cards in the interim

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00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: before it was their next photo shoot. And it was

854
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: fun to see and you'd get to meet these guys,

855
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: play a little catch and just just chat with them

856
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: a bit. But all of that to say is they

857
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: invite mostly skill position guys, including quarterbacks who may never

858
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: see the field. But because you'd rather pull the quarterback

859
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: that could be something rather than the number two cornerback

860
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: in the draft. We're just calling it what it is,

861
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 2: right Like when your team drafts a cornerback, you go, yeah,

862
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: it'll be great. Yay, No, no, you want the splashy thing,

863
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: just like that in cards, you want that guy.

864
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: I remember, and we're talking about the eighties that I

865
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: can vividly remember eighty seven tops, Anthony Munos Bengals card

866
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: like I remember those in talking about lineman Muno's Hall

867
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: of Famer, no doubt about it, all decade teams, the

868
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: whole deal. But I just don't think that instead of

869
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: seeing linemen in these cards, you're seeing the Joe Montanas,

870
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: the Thurman Thomas, the Troy Aikman's guys from in the

871
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 3: past where you're thinking, oh wow, I got this card

872
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 3: instead of being like, oh great, I got an offensive lineman.

873
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: But also in the nineteen eighties, the insert specifically I

874
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: remember with football cards was my favorite was the thousand

875
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: yard Club.

876
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: The yellow card.

877
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: Yes, if you could collecting the thousand yard Club was

878
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: a collection in itself in trying to be like, oh

879
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: I need I just need two more. I just need

880
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: Bill Brooks from the Indianapolis Cults. That's all that I

881
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: need to complete my one thousand yard club. And I

882
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: remember because my buddy growing up needed Bill Brooks and

883
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of Bill Brooks from the Indianapolis Colts

884
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: thousand yard clubs. But that was the only like insert

885
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: you would talk about.

886
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you not. And you had the flearhead stickers, yes,

887
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: and had puzzle.

888
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: Pieces oh that was yes for the baseball and you

889
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: know how much yell of diamond kings. But they were

890
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: just like the normal card. It wasn't like that.

891
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: And then they became inserts and numbered inserts and rarities.

892
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Thereafter that, so different on how it is now. But

893
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: to your point of now there's this downtown card. Now,

894
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 3: if I'm a novice and I'm opening up a pack

895
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm getting I feel like I'm getting let's just say

896
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: it's ten cards in a pack I feel and you

897
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: could absolutely correct me if I'm wrong. I'm getting like

898
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: four normal cards. Then I'm getting three rookies, two of

899
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: which I may never have heard of before. And then

900
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting three different sort of you say, downtown like

901
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: bombs away, steph curry, three point shot, splash yes or

902
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: something like that.

903
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: You know, I got one called the other day. I'm

904
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: not kidding you. It was Pozenski yesh y double e

905
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: s h. I'm gonna collect that set, just on principle.

906
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: Elevates like it's oh, I got a jamarant elevate card

907
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 3: and it's it's confusing.

908
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: No, But that's the thing, right is and then you

909
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: have sets, and now we're going down a big rabbit hole.

910
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: I think this is interesting.

911
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: There's a Tops product called Heritage and and it's a

912
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: gorgeous set and every year they go and they emulate

913
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: one of the great top sets of the past. But

914
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: the problem is, if you're a novice, you don't know

915
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: what you pulled because there's a lot of variations, like

916
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: even in the design on the back, is the bat

917
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: upright or is it upside down? Is the color of

918
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: the back of the car different? Right, here's this thing,

919
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: or here it's got a gold foil to it. Here's

920
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: a serrely numbered card. Here's the all right, it's an

921
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: alternate image. Well they do that in baseball all the time.

922
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I it's a cool looking Jackson holiday card. Wait,

923
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: that's actually a one a case, you know, two hundred

924
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars card. Because he's smiling at me as

925
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: opposed to holding a bat. But if you're not paying,

926
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: like because there's nothing on the card number itself that

927
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: distinguishes that. It just starts coming out as boxes getting broken,

928
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: and then the company will push out information of hey,

929
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: yeah there are fifteen photo images. Yeah, these are a

930
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: super short print. And so it's you've got to pay

931
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: attention to the break and the cycle as stuff starts

932
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: coming out and there's a lot of product that gets broken.

933
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: So you know, like anything it's collect with you, like

934
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: specialize and try to learn as much about it before

935
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: you plunk down your dollars.

936
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: Our Buddy rich Davis, co host of Cavino and Rich

937
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. I told the story a

938
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago that he's got a young son,

939
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: thinks about five or six, and he took him to

940
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: a card shop for the first time and just to

941
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: go in. And I joked, and I'm not sure Rich

942
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: got it or not. I go did the guy say,

943
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: do you want a hobby pack, a blaster pack or

944
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: one from a case? But I think those are decisions

945
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: that you have to make.

946
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: Blaster box, megabox, jumbo box. Costco sells you a tops

947
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: pack for thirty five bucks, which has a couple of

948
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 2: things from each series, and there's inserts that are special

949
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: only to those breaks. Right if you buy at Target

950
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: versus Walmart, versus Fanatics versus like, there's different configurations to

951
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: it all and different inserts and colors.

952
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: And I, as a parents, I would be lost. I'd

953
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: have no idea. I would just and I think Riches like,

954
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: we just went in. You just wanted to get a pack,

955
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: couple of packs of cards. Open it up. Maybe you

956
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: get you know, tany, maybe you get a Lebron you know,

957
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: depending on what you're buying and and all those good

958
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: and that's how that's how I feel like it should be.

959
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's not even close to that anymore.

960
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: But I've I've walked into those stores and have been like, Okay,

961
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: well that one is twenty seven ninety nine, that one's

962
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: forty seven ninety nine, and they're the same product, but

963
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: they're this jumbo pack is this much that you've just

964
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: opened and got on your desk. It's very very confusing,

965
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: and it it does not cater to the the novice.

966
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, but but it does. But it doesn't right because

967
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: if you are the novice, then you're not looking to

968
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: I have to open this box and I've got to

969
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: figure out how I get my forty nine dollars back. Right,

970
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: You're just buying You're just buying a box of cards, ye, right,

971
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: Versus I'm buying this as a potential money making opportunity.

972
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: Like they're two very distinct paths towards buying a box.

973
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: Like if you go to Target for your you know,

974
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: in sundry items, and then you pass the cards and say, hey,

975
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy a box of this. If it's just hey,

976
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: I got thirty bucks, it's basketball cards. I like basketball

977
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: cards as a kid, then you're not thinking I need

978
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: to pull what's the rare? Insert here? Can I get

979
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: an autograph? What's the best? Like you're just buying a

980
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: box of cards, and there's still a very large percentage

981
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: of folks whether they collect Steph Curries or the pazemskis

982
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: now or or Victor Webin or you know Lebron James

983
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: or owing to the veterans that are being included in

984
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: these sets. Right. I watched a guy open a box

985
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: from our local shop and he pulled for the guy

986
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: a low numbered Mark Brunell. Okay, Mark Brunell's in a

987
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: set in twenty twenty four to twenty five which certain

988
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: percent or no. A better example was Jimbo Covert Okay, yeah,

989
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Lineman Lineman hall of Famer Bears guy got a one

990
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: of one and started ranting and raving. He was salty

991
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: that he got a one of one. It's like a

992
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: dude's Hall of Fame b eighty five Bears. See, you

993
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: should just hang up your microphone because you have no

994
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: idea what you're talking about. Sure, now does the guy

995
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: on the other end that's gonna get that from that

996
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: Bears break? He's happy as hell because he bought the team. Yeah, right,

997
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: so that's that's a Bears legend that he's gonna get

998
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: and it's a one to one and people still collect

999
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: one of one's. But it's that kind of thing, right

1000
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: If you're looking at it as a I'm going to

1001
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: flip and get rich off of this, then yeah, prepare

1002
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: to be disappointed often times you don't know.

1003
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 3: It reminds me of, quite honestly, is gambling where there

1004
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: are handicappers in Las Vegas that couldn't tell you names

1005
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: of players on teams if they tried because they only

1006
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: go via data. And then there's other guys that, like

1007
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: like our Jared Smith, knows the sport, knows the sports,

1008
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: knows the players, knows everything around it. And I think

1009
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: that there's I think you can't be in the middle.

1010
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: Like I almost feel like you can't be me that

1011
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: knows the sports. But I'm not as in tune on

1012
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: the gambling side of things, but I feel like I

1013
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: know a lot of sports. You got to either be

1014
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: locked in one way and know everything about it, specifically

1015
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: the ins and outs and all the betting stuff with

1016
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: the teams, or you got to be it another way

1017
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: and just be totally totally oblivious and call the Chiefs

1018
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: quarterback Peter Mahomes. You know, like true, and I'm joking here,

1019
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: but the point is is they're only going via their data.

1020
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: And I feel like that way with cards, like you

1021
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: got to be in either just solely for the fun

1022
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: of collecting and opening that pack, or you got to

1023
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: know what you're buying and you got to know what's

1024
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: coming in and almost being in the middle. I feel like,

1025
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's way to teeter.

1026
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of where we're at in the fantasy realm.

1027
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: I think you and I come at it from the

1028
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: same way. We watch a lot of football. M hm.

1029
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: So you've watched how those stats have been a versus

1030
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: it's just raw data, yeah, which means you've got some

1031
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: biases based on what you saw, your opinion of the opponent,

1032
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: et cetera, versus just all right, this is what the

1033
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: data says. This guy's gonna run for eighty four and

1034
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: a half yards this year.

1035
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: Here's reach yep.

1036
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Right, So you get to the cold hard and it's

1037
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: the marriage, right, it's art and science like what we

1038
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: do here, all right. I hope that's my goal every

1039
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: week on radio is somewhere between information and entertainment. We

1040
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: try to bridge the two. Maybe you think about a

1041
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: subject a little bit differently, but if you're not laughing

1042
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: along the way and having fun with it, like that's

1043
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: what sports is supposed to be. Likewise, the trading card hobby,

1044
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: and that's where you get those wins where if your

1045
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: team ends up having a guy that breaks through, Like

1046
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 2: think about Kansas City Chiefs Collectors seventeen and eighteen. Patrick

1047
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: Mahomes was just a guy. You could have bought his

1048
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: rookie cards for nothing. I pulled a second year card

1049
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: that I sold off. Was a great one of one,

1050
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: and I got good money for it, but it was

1051
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: probably at the peak during COVID, probably got to be

1052
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: like a two thousand dollars card for whoever owned it

1053
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: three people later, just the way that that breaks. But

1054
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: if you were buying up all the Chiefs rookies, guess what,

1055
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: Suddenly this guy's super Bowl champion and you've got eight

1056
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: hundred rookie cards that you've amassed from your purchases or whatever,

1057
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: like the luck of the draw did George.

1058
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if they did this in Chicago, but

1059
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: did like the local police station ever like give out

1060
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: trading cards of like White Sox or Cubs.

1061
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: I think there were a couple of and they always

1062
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: did a trading card set, okay as a giveaway, both

1063
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: teams did, and it was always seven to eleven or Gatorade.

1064
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: Gotcha, I thank you. So my local police department growing

1065
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: up in Wisconsin would do a Brewers set every year,

1066
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: and so if they if you're playing ball in the park,

1067
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: cops pull up, Hey, we got you know, the next

1068
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: round of the Brewers cards, and oh nice, they would

1069
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, hand them out. But they weren't tops, they

1070
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: weren't anything. But later on I think they became that

1071
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 3: because my mom randomly had a pack of Packers score

1072
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: football cards from the mid two thousand doll and it

1073
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers.

1074
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: Rookie was was in two thousand and five.

1075
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1076
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So so if it's clean, that's it's a rare card. Yeah,

1077
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 2: it's a rare you know sub section. And it probably

1078
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: looks just like the other correct score cards, except that's

1079
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: a different color. Yeah, maybe with a different number designation.

1080
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: But but it's it's like in that way like you're

1081
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: just like, oh good, I got the I got the

1082
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: Packer cards from you know, from the Cops, and it's

1083
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: got Brett farre and it's got Donald Driver and yeah,

1084
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: it's also got this Aaron Rodgers card. But that's you know,

1085
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: it came within those.

1086
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: The regional stuff is cool. If you have any of

1087
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: this stuff, I'd love to see it at swownd Dome.

1088
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: Dan loves the nostalgia that had Dan Byron Fox. The

1089
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: Mother's Cookies were always the big deal up in Oakland

1090
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: when Maguire and Conseco, when those guys were running, so

1091
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: you'd get you know, those glazed animal cookies really needed

1092
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: something to break down the coating on that. But either

1093
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: way they sold very well. And if certain times a

1094
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: year you would open them and have a pack of card.

1095
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: What about King b Jerky snuff? Those circle cards, those

1096
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: are the best.

1097
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: If you've got clean edges, they have great value. See

1098
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: that's where we get into the fun and excitement of grading.

1099
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: By the way, I have a nice thousand yard club

1100
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice from I think it's eighty seven or eighty eight.

1101
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: I will bring to you the next time.

1102
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: All right, we're here.

1103
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: We'll add to Dan Bayer's collection as we flow. All right,

1104
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: So there it is a little trip down memory lane

1105
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: and perhaps some information to make you a little smarter

1106
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: in your retail purchases. Hopefully I did not give you

1107
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: the fever. I was like, I'm gonna go boy some cards.

1108
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 2: Approach with caution and let me know what you find

1109
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: out there in the wild at dan Byer on Fox

1110
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: where you find and find me over at Swollen Dome

1111
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,280
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1112
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,280
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1113
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,600
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1114
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,239
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1115
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,080
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1116
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,399
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1117
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: p one, no question about it. Be sure to preset

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app and it'll always

1119
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. And as always,

1120
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: evangelized friends, family, Thanks for being part of our extended

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: family here at Fox Sports Radio. We know you have

1122
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: a lot of options in your listening and video and

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Speaker 2: everything else. We appreciate you kicking us on to and

1124
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: from services, walking the dog, having that first cup of

1125
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: coffee or second momosa, whatever case is. We appreciate you

1126
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: and we love you. Taking a turn back to the

1127
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: NBA next. We've got two big stories. You got the

1128
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: Lakers and what's next? Fifty two million reasons will kind

1129
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: of hold over like the Sword of Damocles and then

1130
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: the retirement or the move upstairs of Greg Popovich. What

1131
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: does it all mean to our NBA world. We'll do

1132
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 2: that next year on Fox. Greetings and welcome back in boy,

1133
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: that was a good trip down memory line. Thanks for

1134
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: your submissions. I don't know what the street value of

1135
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: a Steve Hartman is, though dan.

1136
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: Byer George Sands has sent us the Steve Hartman loose

1137
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: Cannon's card from ninety ninety three. If the cards not

1138
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: in mint, Steve's hair is, it's a gem mint ten

1139
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: haircut from Steve.

1140
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: That has not moved all right at dan Byro on

1141
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: Fox at Swallwindome, you want to continue that discussion and

1142
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: fire off some of your favorite cards. We get into

1143
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: some of the photos. There's a famous C three po

1144
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: error card that looks like something it isn't. It's Sunday morning.

1145
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: That's all I can say on it. But like there's

1146
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: so many variations, non sports becoming a much bigger part

1147
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: of things with Disney licensures and such, so you know

1148
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: all the different ways to collect.

1149
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: I remember I think it was maybe ninety one NFL

1150
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: Pro set came out and there was a Perry Kemp

1151
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: error card where it had the wrong picture.

1152
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a bunch of those in that set.

1153
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: But nobody because back then, again it's not like the Internet.

1154
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: It's not. I mean, you see the NFL game for

1155
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: three hours, guys who are wearing helmets, that's the last

1156
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: you see of them. There was a question on which

1157
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: one was actually Perry Kemp, like nobody knew because he

1158
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: didn't know the faces of play. And so you're like,

1159
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: do I have the air? I have two different ones.

1160
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: I don't know which one's the air in which one

1161
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: is the correct one?

1162
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Where you try to just find both images and have

1163
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: yourself covered if you could. Now, as we turned back

1164
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: to the NBA, we've got exits for squads. First round

1165
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: is now over except for the game seven later on tonight.

1166
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: We look at the Warriors, we looked at the Rockets.

1167
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: Rockets were favored by three. Last I saw. We had

1168
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: that laid down effort by the Warriors getting bludgeoned in

1169
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: Game five to our former Northwestern Wildcat, Pat Spencer was

1170
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: head button guys. That was just odd. And then Game

1171
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: six expecting all right, you rested. I didn't realize you

1172
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: could activate that many guys though. That's been the fun

1173
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: part of the playoffs. Stand when teams are getting blown out,

1174
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: it's like you could play that many guys. What the

1175
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: hell it's like suddenly they're like fifteen guys in the

1176
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: box score.

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00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: Box scores a lot longer. If I were to tell

1178
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: you that the line moved from your Houston minus three,

1179
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: which way do you think it moved towards Golden State

1180
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: or even further further out, let's move towards Golden State,

1181
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: so it as Houston minus two and a half is

1182
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: one of the time. But again this could vary. But

1183
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: the point is is I think that people feel that

1184
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: it's Game seven, it's Golden State. If they're an underdog,

1185
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: of course I'm going to be taking what opportunity. I'm

1186
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: going to be putting my money on Golden State. I

1187
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: think that's how people will look at it instead of

1188
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: maybe looking at what's transpired these last two games.

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, squad. You did a show with Ryan Hollands

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: yesterday here on the network. The Houston squad has been

1191
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: fascinating to watch. You know me, I like guys that

1192
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: are maybe undersize, fire plug looking guys. So why when

1193
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: guys like Fred van Vliet have a good series. I

1194
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: celebrate guys like that and you know, crafty veterans that

1195
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: show up in big moments. And he's just been fantastic

1196
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: these last few games. But the other side with the Warriors,

1197
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: like beyond what you expect from Butler and Steph Curry

1198
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: with whatever's going on with that thumb started to look

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: like he's going like Frankenstein monster kind of thing in

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: the early change there you're trying to find size like that.

1201
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: We watched it with the Lakers, watched it a bit

1202
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: with the Clippers at moments where they were undersized and

1203
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: roster and matchup wise, we're not there for the Warriors.

1204
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of the same thing, youth being served,

1205
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: but also how do you close down the middle because

1206
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: they hadn't had an answer this entire No.

1207
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: Steven Adams has been great for them as well. Like

1208
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: he's he's been I don't want to say that he is,

1209
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: he's been something that they couldn't solve. But we saw

1210
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: Draymond kind of shut down Shngoon. I believe in Game

1211
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: four and preventing that, and we're thinking, oh, they're locked up,

1212
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: but no, Houston has an advantage. You said it, I

1213
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 3: said it. The Houston's the better team. Ryan Hollins said

1214
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: it last night. And Ryan obviously ten years in the NBA.

1215
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: But Ryan is on the TV call for the Houston Rockets.

1216
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: He's called their games for the last couple of years

1217
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: as their analysts on their TV broadcast, so he knows

1218
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: the Rockets better than anyone. And he says, yeah, they're younger,

1219
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: they're faster, they're better. All of that is true. But Mike,

1220
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 3: I still think, and it's not a you gotta beat

1221
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, you gotta beat Jimmy Butler. I think that stuff.

1222
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: He's overrated. I do think there is something about solving

1223
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: the riddle of a game seven and well, Houston may

1224
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: be the better team, it's still the race to four wins.

1225
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: And now with this on the line, Houston does have

1226
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: all the momentum they've won the last two games. I

1227
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: still think that there is a hurdle to climb in

1228
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: figuring out how do you win this game? In the playoffs,

1229
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: and we know that golden state of least Steph Curry

1230
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: knows how to do it. I don't know if the

1231
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 3: Rockets will know, and maybe they won't need to. Maybe

1232
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: they'll win by twenty and then tomorrow we're all saying, well,

1233
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: the Rockets were just the better team. The Warriors didn't

1234
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: have much. But I do think I think that there

1235
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: is something to this game seven when you're just trying

1236
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: to figure out, all right, how do you get through

1237
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: these forty eight minutes with more points than the other team.

1238
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: And that's that's the goal. The goal is in the series. Now,

1239
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: it's the one game, and how do you win this

1240
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: most important game? Now?

1241
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: My favorite stories we mentioned him there, Steven Adams, He

1242
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: and Rudy Gobert are putting up two of the greatest

1243
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: offensive performances in these NBA playoffs. Things you never thought

1244
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: you'd say for one hundred hours, you.

1245
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 3: Know, And you know what it reminds me of, Mike.

1246
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: It reminds me of when NFL teams run the ball

1247
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: and run over other teams in the playoffs, because you know,

1248
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: maybe the egos are a perfect example. Everybody is in

1249
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: a race to get the quarterback in the quarterbacks favorite

1250
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: targets and running the ball, and you now have edge

1251
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: rushers who are two hundred and thirty pounds. And then

1252
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: when you get to the playoffs and you're running the

1253
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: football and you don't have the personnel to stop the run,

1254
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: those team teams fare better in those situations. So I

1255
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: think San Francisco has had success. Philadelphia obviously, with their success,

1256
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: teams are now being built on defense to try to

1257
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: stop the pass because that's how offenses are being built.

1258
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: And it may not be pretty during the regular season,

1259
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: but I feel it's the way in the NBA as well.

1260
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: Nobody's dealing with seven footers that play down low. Now

1261
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: you know when Benyama's playing on the perimeter as well

1262
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: at seven to four, however big he is, but there's

1263
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: not that true center position. So when you have that

1264
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: advantage like Rudy Gobert, like Steven Adams over a Golden

1265
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,959
Speaker 3: State team that really doesn't have the size at all,

1266
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: it becomes it becomes magnified. And look at what Minnesota

1267
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: did to the Lakers without their guys in the middle

1268
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: twenty four rebounds. I mean, it's because they're not built

1269
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: that way. We knew that they we knew the Lakers

1270
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: had warts inside, but they're not the only team in

1271
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: the NBA.

1272
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: Would have been nice to see Jackson Hayes break a sweat, sure,

1273
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: but we'll get to that second. One of the things

1274
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: as we watched Kentucky derby coverage and we start looking

1275
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: ahead to our sporting landscape and the change we have

1276
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: the return John Tesh long guy telling me about birthdays

1277
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: before Bob going Uh started doing it on episodic entertainment magazines.

1278
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: He also penned one of the greatest songs ever. Everybody decided.

1279
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: So we have all the orchestration. They've got a bunch

1280
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: of video montages and stars from the different NBC slash

1281
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: Peacock properties humming along because it's ubiquitous. It's a great

1282
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live skid from all those years ago with

1283
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: Jason Sedakis Uh making fun of it. But we talk

1284
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: about happy return, so like the sadness and reality of hey,

1285
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: guys are aging out. We talked about Giannis and where

1286
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: he's at in his continuum. Damian Lillard, even if he plays,

1287
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: he's in his mid thirties. At this point, the Lakers

1288
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: have their fifty two million dollar question with Lebron James

1289
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: player option, no trade clause, So is it a foregone

1290
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: conclusion he's in a Laker uniform or can everybody kind

1291
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: of look at each other and maybe they weren't happiest

1292
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: at the end, he and Luca and some of those

1293
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: little fly by comments from Lebron and his exit interview

1294
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: that maybe not always right with the world there and

1295
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: maybe they look to something else.

1296
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I think that I think that Lebron

1297
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: has the opportunity to do something that would really change

1298
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: a narrative, and that would be to opt out and

1299
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: just take significantly less to help the organization and to

1300
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: help him get one more title. It's difficult to do

1301
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: that when you could make fifty two million dollars, as

1302
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: you said, a season, and it's not the option of

1303
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: he's not going to go to another team, right because

1304
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: now Bronnie James is on the Lakers. Why would you

1305
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: leave after one season just to bring him in and

1306
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: then go play elsewhere like that doesn't Well, he got

1307
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: a eight million guarantees, he did, he did, But imagine

1308
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: if Lebron took three million, you know, took ten million, sure,

1309
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: leaving forty million dollars on the table. I think it

1310
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 3: would change a bit of a narrative about lebron Maybe

1311
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: not wholeheartedly, but to say, you know what, I'm gonna

1312
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: plan on the discount because I want to win a tome.

1313
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: That's why I'm playing. He really has nothing else to

1314
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 3: play for. In fact, the reason why I thought maybe

1315
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: he would step aside after this season was because guess

1316
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: what I did get Bronnie James to the league we

1317
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: played together. That seemed to be the final box to check.

1318
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: Walking away from forty million dollars Maybe foolish, but boy,

1319
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 3: if he opted out and just took a less deal

1320
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: to get back of the Lakers, that would be that

1321
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: would be something that would be a way to change

1322
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: the narrative.

1323
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, because that's where you're at in the chaos of it.

1324
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: Roster wise, it's not a whole lot you can do.

1325
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1326
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: One of your other pet projects is you got to

1327
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: fix the guy that he wanted in this year's draft, right,

1328
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: it was Brony and it was Dalton. Connect with the

1329
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: two guys he talked about, Sure, and then connect after

1330
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: the failed trade was a shell of himself. Yeah, and

1331
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: he's worse defensively than Lucas. Yes, we can ponder that

1332
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 2: for a moment.

1333
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and there's there's also the question of Lebron

1334
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: gives you the numbers, and Lebron gives you the fame

1335
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: and the name and everything that comes with it. But

1336
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: him defensively is now a question and that is that

1337
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: worth fifty two million dollars all encompassing? Probably so, But

1338
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: realistically does that make the Lakers a championship team? Probably not.

1339
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because one of the things you and

1340
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: I were going back on right is in the collapse

1341
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: of the Lakers, and it's a note you sent me

1342
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: as we were exchanging ideas is the Nico Harrison thing.

1343
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: And we did the you know, chuckle on on the night,

1344
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: and I still thought short term for Dallas, it was

1345
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 2: an interesting trade if guys had stayed healthy. As that

1346
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: roster was constructed with the Bigs, with Lively coming back,

1347
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis comes in, Kyrie Evan, Well, we know they're

1348
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: gonna miss a couple of ins. We didn't expect Kyrie

1349
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: to be done for the year. I would have loved

1350
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: to see this iteration. But you know, to all the

1351
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: Luca is out of shape and this and and whatever

1352
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: it cost him a hundred million dollars in terms of contract,

1353
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: and he could say, Okay, that's fine. There are reports

1354
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 2: that they're gonna lose several hundred million dollars and it

1355
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: makes sense. Right. It's like when shoey Otani left the

1356
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: Angel Yes, all of a sudden that advertising goes away.

1357
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Those Japanese companies are all the way up here, up

1358
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: the five and hanging out at Dodger Stadium, right, so

1359
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,520
Speaker 2: you lose all that. Likewise, for Luca as an international

1360
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: guy and with the juice he had, they lost a

1361
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: lot of money and will continue to do so on

1362
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: the business side of it long beyond whatever the terms

1363
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: of that trade was. So you've got two different different

1364
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: avenues to talk about. From a basketball standpoint, I would

1365
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: have liked to have seen this iteration of the Mavericks

1366
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: as it was constructed. Could they have won it, I

1367
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: don't know, but short term it was an interesting concept.

1368
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: Long term, yeah, it's a loss.

1369
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and I felt that both teams would have

1370
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: been better off not doing the trade this season. Long term,

1371
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: it's better for the Lakers, it is. I don't care

1372
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 3: like Anthony Davis and your point about the injuries. I

1373
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: think That's the whole point that I had a problem with,

1374
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: is you're putting your eggs in a basket of Kyrie,

1375
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: irving Anthony Davis and Klay Thompson to stay healthy. Kyrie

1376
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: has been hurt since his freshman season at Dupe. Yeah,

1377
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: like there's always been something with Kyrie. May may not

1378
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: be season ending like this injury, but there have been

1379
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 3: other injuries that have kept him out significant amounts of time.

1380
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 3: We know It's followed Anthony Davis around, and claym has

1381
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: two seasons of his NBA career after a couple of

1382
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: severe injuries. Right, So that was that was was actually

1383
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 3: second or third in my reasons of why I felt

1384
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 3: that the trade was bad. Number one is kind of

1385
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: what you talk about. I just didn't think Lucas should

1386
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 3: have ever left Dallas. I think that Dallas fans would

1387
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: have been happy if they would have had Luca and

1388
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 3: not won a title. I don't think winning a title

1389
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 3: solves anything. And now you talk about those advertising dollars, Yeah,

1390
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 3: it's another miss. I felt people ran to the cashier

1391
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 3: to cash in their chips or were doing it just

1392
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: to be contrarian this week, to be like, yeah, Nico

1393
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: Harrison's laughing. Nico Harrison's got a ten and seed as

1394
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: a team that doesn't have their starting point guard back,

1395
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 3: and now you have an Anthony Davis a year older.

1396
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: How can they be laughing? There are no there are

1397
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 3: in no shape. You think the Spurs are gonna stink

1398
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: next year? Uh huh, Not gonna happen. Not with a

1399
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 3: full season of the Aaron Fox, Victor Weben Yaman, everything

1400
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 3: that they've got back. So like Dallas, isn't it in

1401
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: this prime spot? And I felt that people were saying, see, look,

1402
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: this is why Nico got rid of of Luca. It

1403
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: was an awful trade. Luca's got a whole offseason to

1404
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: get in the shape if he wants to. I couldn't

1405
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: stand it to hear people defending Nico Harrison just because

1406
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 3: the Lakers lost in five.

1407
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 2: Now, on the plus side, for Nico, I'll still contend

1408
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: none of that happens without the invisible hand of many

1409
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 2: people in that boardroom. So while he's got to be

1410
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: the public face of it and wear it that, you know,

1411
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: unfortunately that's the job of the GM. Yeah, they gotta

1412
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: have a fall down.

1413
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: I was surprised at this backglass. You were what.

1414
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying he handled any of the press.

1415
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my nice job. If Scott and Don

1416
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 2: and Julie decide they're done with me, I'm gonna go

1417
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: offer my services, like we're gonna talk for ten minutes

1418
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: before you get in front of a micro sure, and

1419
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna ferret out all possible questions. All right,

1420
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: let's start it over our guy, Isaac loewen Kron one

1421
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: more time for a trip around the sporting universe, including

1422
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: one very near and dear to his heart, because it

1423
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: was a highlight that I told him I need to

1424
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: hear it on air for the world to hear the

1425
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: greatness of Isaac long.

1426
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and that's certainly notable. And that is

1427
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 6: coming up after we get to some Game seven starting

1428
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 6: on Saturday night of the NBA Playoffs, as Denver defeated

1429
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Clippers one twenty to one oh one,

1430
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 6: so Denver will face West one seed Oklahoma City and

1431
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 6: the Conference semis beginning on Monday tonight at six pm Eastern.

1432
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 6: It's Game one of the Eastern Conference semi Finals is

1433
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 6: the Cleveland Cavaliers hosts the Indiana Pacers at eight thirty Eastern.

1434
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 6: It'll be Game seven of the opening round series from

1435
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 6: Houston between the Rockets and the Golden State Warriors. In

1436
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 6: Game seven of the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night,

1437
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 6: the Dallas Stars rallied from two to nothing down with

1438
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 6: just twelve twelve remaining of the third period to beat

1439
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 6: the Colorado Avalanche four to two, as former AV Miko

1440
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 6: Rantanen had a hat trick and an assist in the

1441
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 6: third period, alone, becoming the first player in the history

1442
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 6: of the Stanley Cup Playoffs to have a third period

1443
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 6: hat trick in a Game seven. The Stars will face

1444
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 6: tonight's Game seven winner between the Winnipeg Jets and the

1445
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 6: Saint Louis Blues in the second round face off between

1446
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 6: the Jets and the Blues at till seven pm Eastern

1447
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 6: time this evening. Earlier today, Winnipeg ruled out forward Mark Scheifelee,

1448
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 6: who was their second leading goal scorer during the regular

1449
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 6: season and had two goals and four assists in the

1450
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 6: first five games of the series, due to an undisclosed injury.

1451
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 6: In Major League Baseball right now, the New York Mets

1452
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: and Saint Louis Cardinals tied at one at the bottom

1453
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 6: of the second inning, and Minnesota's Byron Buxton let off

1454
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 6: the game with a home run. At Fenway today, as

1455
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 6: the Twins have a one nothing lead over the Red Sox.

1456
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 5: Going to the bottom of the first inning.

1457
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 6: Now you want me to do this now, Harmon?

1458
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Here right?

1459
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 6: So on Friday, a National Women's Soccer League match between

1460
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 6: Angel City FC and the Washington Spirit. Angel City FC

1461
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 6: has two sisters on its roster. Alyssa Thompson twenty years

1462
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 6: old Giselle Thompson, her younger sister by thirteen months nineteen

1463
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 6: months old. Both recently played together on the US national team,

1464
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 6: and in Friday's match at Washington, they were on the

1465
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 6: field together as they became the first sisters in the

1466
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 6: history of the league to combine on a goal long

1467
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 6: passed by Kennedy over the top. Alessa Thompson left the

1468
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 6: area for angel citing Thompson with a left putting cross.

1469
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,959
Speaker 7: Score just so Topson a sister act.

1470
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 6: A beautiful moment for Angel City and especially for the

1471
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 6: Topson family.

1472
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: Nicely done at Isaac Loehancron. That's pinned there, that call

1473
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: invoking the old Whoopie Goldberg Harvey Getel classic.

1474
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 3: Was it planned? Or do you not want to reveal

1475
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: your secrets?

1476
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: Was what planned?

1477
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: The sister act line for how good it was? You know?

1478
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: Jim Nantz writes down his master's lines he does.

1479
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: Hello, friends, Thank you very much, Isaac getting it done

1480
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: all right? Coming up next, we're going to take a

1481
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: turn to the world of the NFL. We'll stay in

1482
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: Los Angeles with an aged quarterback. What's next for him?

1483
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: His coach had some thoughts and maybe we do two

1484
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: next here on Fox Greetings talk come in short one

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Speaker 2: Whether you love what we say, hey, would you say?

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Speaker 2: Just don't be indifferent. Keep the line moving right, That's

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Add Dan Byron Fox where you find Dan.

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Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. Keep the pictures of

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Speaker 2: your trading card collection coming as well. Last one, we

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Speaker 2: do a quick minute on football here in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: Sean mcvaigh doing the media rounds post draft talk about

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Speaker 2: how he wants Matthew Stafford here for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: Now Stafford has two years left on his deal. Obviously

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Speaker 2: they've had some some off field stuff, health issues with

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Speaker 2: his wife and for his own self. At this point

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Speaker 2: mid thirties, injuries are piled up and uneven performances. Dan

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Speaker 2: would be I think the kind way to say it right,

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Speaker 2: finished with a flourish. They're like, oh, there were one

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Speaker 2: playway here. It's like, yeah, if they actually had some

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Speaker 2: semblance of good play from him. And I know guys

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Speaker 2: are hurt, but he finishes with twenty touchdowns twelve interceptions

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Speaker 2: and folks want to put him still as this upper

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Speaker 2: echelon guy. It's like, he isn't spurts, But you got

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Speaker 2: two years left on this deal before there's a void.

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Speaker 2: So unless there's secret option B. I have to agree

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Speaker 2: with McVeigh that you're gonna get the best out of

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Speaker 2: him for two years.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you would think like you normally think. However,

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Speaker 3: this is the same head coach. And I've said this before.

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Speaker 3: I am jealous because I'm a Seahawks fan, but I

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Speaker 3: would love to be a fan of Sean McVay. I

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Speaker 3: am a huge, huge fan of his. And when you

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Speaker 3: see his transformation. If when he came into the league

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Speaker 3: being the youngest coach to ever be a head coach,

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Speaker 3: and then the people that he surrounded him with to

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Speaker 3: make it work, and then after a few years he's

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Speaker 3: still the youngest head coach in the league, they go

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Speaker 3: to a Super Bowl. Then a couple of years later

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Speaker 3: they go and they win a Super Bowl. It's been

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Speaker 3: this climate. He's his own man. Now he's his own

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Speaker 3: he is he is in charge of the operation. And

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Speaker 3: the moving off of Jared Goff when this team was

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Speaker 3: a playoff team at that time shows me that he

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Speaker 3: does not care and that they will make the moves

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Speaker 3: necessary if need be so while the contract helps them

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Speaker 3: for this year and may hurt later down the line,

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Speaker 3: I would not with the two first round picks in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and what does a quarterback heavy draft.

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Speaker 3: I'll take what he's saying with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 2: Least as we look at it, we've got this one year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's still heavy on the books, right, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about that Lebron territory in terms of the millions

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Speaker 2: against the cap. But you look at what else is

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Speaker 2: on the roster at the moment. It's my old friend

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo. He's a White Sox fan, so kindred spirit.

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Speaker 2: And then you've got whatever Stetson Bennett can become. Remember

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Speaker 2: he was away from the team of a while, so

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Speaker 2: at least for this year, unless they pull a rabbit

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Speaker 2: out of the hat and someone becomes available, we're looking

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Speaker 2: at twenty twenty five him throwing to Devonte Adams and company.

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Speaker 2: But then yeah, all bets are off. Next year. Is

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Speaker 2: curious to see how many of those quarterbacks we're still

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Speaker 2: excited about.

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Speaker 3: I think next year, a year from now, the Rams

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Speaker 3: are going to be one of those three teams that

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Speaker 3: we continue to talk about.

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Speaker 2: As long as they don't fail again. And he thinks

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Speaker 2: about leaving for TV, I don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: do the speech to get him back out of side.

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Speaker 3: That's always going to be there, That's always going to be.

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Speaker 2: There at damn viron Fox where Are you fine and

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. Have a blast Sunday folks.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging with us. Thanks Chris, Thanks Shay, Thanks

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Speaker 2: Ilo Pace