WEBVTT - 2/24/26: Trump Polling Freefall, Dire Warning On Iran, Lord Mandelson Arrested 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.240 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of the show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.440 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.959 Become a member today and you'll get access to our. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.040 Full shows, unedited, ad free, and all put together for 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:25.600 you every morning in your inbox. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.560 We need your help to build the future of independent 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.920 news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:36.040 dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Tuesday. Have an amazing 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:37.560 show for everybody today when we have Prystal. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.360 Indeed, we do State of the Union tonight. We will 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.839 be live streaming starting around eight o'clock. We're going to 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.000 preview all of that this morning. Take a look at terms, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.520 approval ratings, how it compares to previous years, look back 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.519 at the previous speech, all of that good stuff. So 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.720 definitely join us momentarily, but also join us tonight for 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.600 that live stream. Lots else going on right now, though 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.880 we've got extraordinary leaks coming out of the White House 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.320 to a wide varie of news outlets warning against war 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.880 with Iran. So we'll break that down for you as 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.160 we continue to try to read the tea leaves. There 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.560 also big news out of the UK. Lord Mandelson has 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.120 been arrested due to revelations from the Epstein files. In addition, 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.520 we have some new shocking revelations from those files we 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.280 will break down as well. Rocana is going to join 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.560 us to talk to us about a whole variety of subjects. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.480 We have this secret DNC GAZA memo. We want him 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.200 to react to that State of the Union preview. He 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.320 is co sponsoring a war Powers resolution on Iran with 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.839 Thomas Massey and also gave a very significant speech on AI, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:38.880 so we want to get into all those topics with 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.760 him today. The market crash speaking of AI yesterday based 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.679 on AI fears, we will dig into that. We're also 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.000 going to have a guest gate join us from Control 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.000 AI looking at some of the potentially more existential risks. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.360 And Trump is promising a UFO reveal. What can we 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.360 expect from that? Soger will answer it all. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.160 I wish perhaps they will answer it all, although not 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:01.880 holding my breath for that one. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.720 Thank you, likein relief. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.840 Unfortunately, if I've been telling my brothers UFO community, I 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.040 go guys. I know you guys are singularly focused on 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.560 one thing. Unfortunately, my broader domain expertise has taught me 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.519 deep cynicism. 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You know 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.160 what a good episode to share would be our c 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.600 State of the Union Reaction. It'll drop on our podcast 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.400 speed the day after sometime around five to six in 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.840 the morning, So there you go. You can wake up 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.720 and you can listen. If you don't want to watch 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.320 the entire thing live and you have a reasonable bedtime 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.799 like somebody like me. Let's go ahead and start then 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.160 with the state of the Union, Bristol. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.639 Where are we? What is the state? 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.120 Are not right? In my opinion? 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.240 In any case, CNN did some polling and Harry Anton 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.760 did one of his quintessential polling breakdowns of where Trump 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.560 stands visa the American people. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.280 This is a two. Let's go ahead and roll that. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.000 The lowest that any president has been this century going 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.200 in with state of Union at this point, their presidents say. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.400 It is also the weakest that Donald Trump has ever 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.160 been with independence. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.280 Look at this drop. We've been talking about it the 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.120 past few months. At this point a year ago, Donald 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.600 Trump was at minus thirteen points. Look at this minus 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.240 forty seven points among independence, the lowest Donald Trump has 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.600 ever been in either of his two terms. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.840 So minus forty seven with independence, according to that polling. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.160 We pulled some historical polling data. This is based on 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.560 the Real Clear Politics average, which actually looks a little 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.400 bit better for him than some of the other polling 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.680 coming out. So this is sort of like best case scenario. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.040 Let's go and put a one up on the screen. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.000 We can see the comparison here this year versus last year. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.920 So currently he is minus thirteen in terms of his 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.080 approval rating. And look, on the one hand, you'll say, like, oh, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.200 Donald Trump has typically been pretty unpopular, but this is 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.280 a big contrast with where he sat last year when 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.200 he gave his joint address to Congress, when he actually 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.640 was basically fifty to fifty on his approval rating. He 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.200 was plus one point two percent there, so he actually 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.000 was a little bit above water in terms of his 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.520 approval rating. That was really quite a high watermark. Let's 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.799 go ahead and take a look at the job approval 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.880 ratings from his first term in office. You can see 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.440 in twenty seventeen he was similarly situated to where he 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.040 is now twenty eighteen. You know, about eleven points underwater, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.360 ten points underwater in twenty nineteen. Again about nine points 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.160 underwater in twenty twenty. So you know, it's not his 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.960 first trip to the rodeo in terms of being unpopular, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.520 But it does seem like the numbers have dipped pretty close, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.400 if not exceeding the lows that we've seen from his 0:04:58.440 --> 0:04:58.800 first term. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.520 Yeah, I think the independent number is the most important one, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.720 and you should remember, you know, the twenty twenty five 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.560 State of the Union was I think the apotheosis of Trump. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.560 Like if you were really going to go back the 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.880 first term, we were deeply divided as a country. Biden 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.320 came into office, he was supposed to fix it. Everything 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.599 literally went to shit. Trump gets elected with the first 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.400 popular vote victory for Republican since two thousand and four. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.159 This is the highest of highs for Donald Trump whenever 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.920 it comes to his approval rating. He won more independence, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.160 reshaped the coalition, The independent dip now in the interim 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.440 has really dramatically changed the story. And then the plus 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.120 minus not only just resembles as a first term, but 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.960 I do think it's fundamentally different actually with the way 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.480 that the MAGA coalition currently is now. I'm not going 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.440 to say that MAGA itself is not fractured or is 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.800 not unfractured. Like there's a diehard Trump people who are 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.120 out there who are never going to ditch Trump. That's 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.320 exactly like it was in the first term. But there's 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:58.080 several different characteristics and treacherous days that lie ahead. We 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.320 are literally on the brink of a war with the 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.200 Before playing the show, we're like, well, do we start 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.240 with war with Iran or state of the Union. Right, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.920 I mean, this is at the top of everybody's mind. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.279 It could fundamentally change the trajectory of any president. War 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.440 in peace is the one deciding factor that can destroy 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.760 the economy. Obviously, we have AI, which we're going to 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.440 talk about in a little bit, very treacherous in terms 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.440 of how that's going to look for the future. A 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.280 lot of dissatisfaction, inflation, housing, and then really what I 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.120 would add is the revolutionary spirit of MAGA in twenty 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.520 twenty five is dead. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.120 I mean it actually is dead. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.400 Like there is no hope from I mean, let's think 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.800 and let's break the coalition down. MAGA was various different things. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.440 It was you know, quote unquote anti war. You can 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.960 dispute that, but like there was part of that, right, Well, okay, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.120 it's been a year, so we know there was MAHA. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.120 I mean, Maha was they had They're like, we're gonna 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.560 pull the vaccine. Maderna's dead, glych Estate's gone. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.000 Yeah, how'd that work out? 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:58.120 All? 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:58.320 Right? 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.440 Trump literally just gave an exactive orders giving immunity to 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.919 the glys Glice, the state manufacturers, and RFK Junior is 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.000 defending it. You had Tulsey Gabbard who defenstrated herself in public. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.320 Now she has to turn herself and to stop the steal, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.680 you know, the czar or whatever. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.640 Just to be able to walk into the Oval office. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.200 Ye, you've got people like Cash Ptel and Pete Hegseth 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.280 for them again. You know, listen, I was part of 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.160 these people. I go, hey, let's try let's blow the 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.040 ship up. Let's see how well we now we work. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.000 Now we see how it works out. It works out 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.320 with Pete, you know, just gallivanting around the world doing 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.120 his bench press, and Cash Battel chugging beers with Team 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.520 USA Hockey, doing podcasts with his girlfriend as a forty 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.960 four year old man who left. And then the Epstein's right, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.160 we had high host of Epstein stuff, remember, So, like 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.520 I really do like the past is a different. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.760 World in a lot of ways from where we are. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.480 I haven't even talked about Ice and all the other 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.800 ship that's going on. I do think it's important for 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.880 people to remember like where they were floating on up 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.600 high and then where we are about a year ago. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.720 And yeah, I mean it's just been a dramatic change 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.440 compared to Biden Biden also came in with high hopes. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.880 He could have had a seventy percent approval rating. You know, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.400 they had the Cares Act, and all of a sudden 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.240 they were like, Oh, we're gonna change everything in the 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.760 new FDR and then boom, what happens you have? 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.000 I mean, did they invade? 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.080 Yeah, so we're around February twenty four, we had an 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:25.920 invasion of Ukraine, we had the collapse in Afghanistan. Inflation 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.880 was a disaster, gas prices, very similar dynamic, and I 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.280 think at that time that's right around not only when 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.000 Biden's approval went negative, just like with Trump, but that's 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.320 when a lot of people were like, Oh, there's no 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.520 saving this, There's no saving whatever the hell comes out 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:40.800 from this. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.160 I feel like that way with Trump. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.840 Yeah, it's honestly, really pretty hard for me to remember 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.000 not only my sense at the beginning of the Biden presidency, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.040 which was probably not the same as the sense of 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.040 the American people, but more importantly, like what the general 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.080 feeling was. I know for the core like base of 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.520 the Democratic Party. I don't know if there was like 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.840 Biden was just like Okay, it's fine, you know, and 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.280 we're going to try to put some of the pieces 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.640 back together. I feel like there was more like real 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.760 excitement in the MAGA base and with the MAGA coalition 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.200 for this second Trump term. And so I went back 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.640 and I was I was looking at the speech from 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.200 last year, and it was kind of incredible to me 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.320 just how different the moment was. You know, it was 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.160 the anti woke stuff. We're you know, getting the boys 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.880 on a girl's sports and he's calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.160 and talking about DEI and saying, you know, oh, we're 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.600 only going to have merit based selection in the government. Yeah, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.000 we see how meritorious these various clowns and fools are 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.840 in terms of this government. Obviously, you had Doge, you 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.559 had promises about we're going to end the Ukraine War, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.000 you know, promises about at that point, I don't remember 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.640 where we were with the you know, potential Gaza piecedal. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.160 We thought you were in that's right. It was a 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:56.120 very right at the beginning. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:56.839 It was a big hole. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.480 So there was there was a sense of like, okay, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.320 you know, not like obviously I've been very negative about 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.520 them from the beginning, but that's why you saw the 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.080 approval rating basically at fifty to fifty, a place where 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:08.880 he had never been for is people were like, Okay, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.720 maybe this will be genuinely different. Maybe there are going 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.360 to be some things here. Maybe he's going to be 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.680 a great businessman. Maybe he is going to you know, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.560 I think people sort of bought into the rhetoric about 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:18.679 the government efficiency and. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:19.680 Doge blah blah blah. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.160 Maybe he is going to cut the fat in government. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.920 Maybe this is going to all work out. And now 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.240 a year later, just thinking about all that we've lived through, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.400 in all of the various catastrophic you know, mistakes, and 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.959 the ugliness in the country and all of that. Whatever 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.680 hope existed among your sort of like independent swing voter 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.959 has deadly been crushed. And I think the two biggest 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.720 things are really the economy. And I would say Epstein 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:50.080 genuinely because he is his whole brand of being the 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.120 outsider that was going to come in and slay the 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.560 sacred cows and sort of like right the previous wrongs 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.240 and up end the apple car do the difficult things 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.520 that previous you know, elites unwilling to do. Because he 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.640 was this different kind of guy, like you know, many 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.760 of us saw through that brand. But that was the brand, 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.920 and once you have the Epstein files cover up, there 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.199 is no more like you just can't be a remotely 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.480 honest or sane person and continue to hold on to 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.000 that view. And that's why I think even though you know, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.760 if you ask people and polls like what's your number 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.480 one issue, Epstein is not going to be high at 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.040 the list. But I think it truly has been devastating. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.040 It's been most devastating for you know, some of his 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:33.240 core supports, especially his core coalition, coming into this past election. 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.720 So let's go and take a look at a four 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.760 you know, indications about how this is going to go. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.479 Apparently it's going to be a long speech. You have a. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.439 Programming preview for Stave of the Union tomorrow. It's going 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.160 to be a long speech because we have so much 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.040 to talk about. We do have a lot to talk about. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.920 Trump loves to give a long speech, so that is 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.400 something we will be watching for. And then just to 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.600 give you a sense again of the moment we were 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.120 in last year at this time, which at least to 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.080 me feels like a freaking eternity ago. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:03.920 Yeah, this was like peak. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:09.040 Doge elon riding high and his Doge warriors rampaging through 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.320 the government, et cetera, et cetera, Trump lauding all of 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.560 these supposed which we all learned ended up being like 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.400 fake and lies. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:16.840 Whatever. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.600 We ended up spending more money after Doge, not saving money, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.400 et cetera, et cetera. In any case, Trump went through 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.560 this whole list of all the supposed savings that Elon 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.800 was finding and garnering, you know, and clawing back to 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.400 make better use of our tax dollars, et cetera. Let's 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:32.439 take a listen to a. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.800 Five, and to that end, I have created the brand 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:43.360 new Department of Government Efficiency does perhaps you've heard of it, perhaps, 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:55.559 which is headed by Elon Musk, who is in the gallery. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:13:10.560 Tonight, headed up by Elan, and we appreciate it. We 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.839 found hundreds of billions of dollars of. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.000 How are you guys liking all those same things? How 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.640 are you liking your Doge dividend checks? Did those arrive 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.360 in the mail for you? 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.360 I mean, just again, so government spending didn't change, just 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.520 if anybody it went up. Yeah, yeah, it went up. Yeah, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.280 you can you can even go and look on the 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.880 Treasury Department made everything we publish all. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:30.760 Of this stuff. I don't know. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.520 I don't even know at this point if it was 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.360 Doze or if it was just like general trumpiness, but 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.680 it is worth reflecting back on that moment. You know, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.640 I always underestimated the bro support for Doge. I never 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.320 really got it, maybe because I'm from here and I 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.800 was like, yeah, good luck. But for a lot of them, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.839 they were like deeply enthralled by this idea, Like they 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.000 actually believed that it would, you know, through the executive 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.600 stroke of a pen, that you could fundally, fundamentally like 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.920 restructure Washington and that you know, tens hundreds of billions 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.520 of dollars actually were being spent on I don't know, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.480 transgender mice. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.480 Yeah that was or whatever. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.520 And you're like, I remember trying to explain to them 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.480 before the election. I was like, guys, like, unless we're 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.840 going after the Pentagon or Medicare, like, nothing is going 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.160 to change. They're like, oh, he's a hater and all 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.079 of this well, I don't tried to tell you. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.080 He did a long bit in the speech about like, oh, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.000 all these one hundred and ten year olds on Social Security, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.040 blah blah blah. Again, this all turned out to be 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.400 total and complete bullshit. And the only thing they did 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.880 was like destroy the quality of service at the Social 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.920 Security Administration. So it's so much harder for people who 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.880 are legitimate Social Security beneficiaries to actually access their benefits. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.000 That was the kind of thing they actually did. But 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.920 you know, I mean, I understand why someone who is 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.520 you know, not super versed in the budget and how 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.040 this works and where the actual savings would have to 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.520 come from, and the type of you know, the type 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.120 of elites that you would have to go after, for example, 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.880 to deal with like Medicare or Medicaid fraud. You're talking 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.280 about these are you know, wealthy people, and many one 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.480 of them is you a senator for the Republican Party. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.560 We're talking about people who have significant power. Those are 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.640 the types you would have to go after. And so 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.920 I can understand why people who weren't deeply ingrained in 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.440 that process and understanding those dynamics would think that there 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.880 was something cool about this energy of like, Okay, this 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.000 guy's this you know, if you're buying elon hype, he's 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.040 this great businessman, he's this great tech genius. He's going 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.920 to bring in this cadre of like super smart autistic 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.440 geniuses to like run rampant through the federal government. And 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.720 there is something aspirational about the idea of bringing back 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.920 like the top of the top, the cream of the crop, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.320 into the federal government and taking a look at it 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.760 making it more efficient. I mean, Zorin's trying to do 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.200 a version of his own version of Doge in New 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.640 York City of saying, listen, if you're going to you know, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.200 if we're going to ask you to pay taxes, we 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.680 want you in significant taxes in New York City. We 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.200 want you to feel like that money is being well used. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.400 So I can kind of like empathize with people who 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.000 thought that this was a great project. Of course, everyone 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.920 wants to cut the fat in government, and there's death 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.320 definitely places that there is fraud that there. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.080 Is fat to be cut. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.960 But you know, here we are a year later, and 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.560 not only as Doge de Doge completely fail and just 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.800 sort of like crumble it made things worse, which I think, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.960 frankly was that and like data siphoning was the point. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.840 And we've also seen like multiple seasons of Elon and 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.680 Trump's relationship since then, right they were besties. Here Elon 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.800 was camped in d C. Prior to Trump's inauguration, he 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.920 was like hanging out of mar A Lago all the time. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.560 Then they have this parting of the ways but still amicable. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.040 Then they have the total falling out, and Elon says 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.640 the reason that Epstein files aren't getting releases because Trump's 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.880 in them. I'm not backing any Republicans. I'm done spending money. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.080 Eight months ago. Yeah, that's that was how long ago. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.920 And now there's obviously been a reproach. Mont Elon's not 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.840 back in the administration, but he's funding Republicans again. He's 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.280 you know, shut up about Trump being in the Epstein files, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.880 especially now that he's been revealed to also be significant 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.760 in Epstein files. So even just with that one relationship, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.240 you can see how this year has been really been 0:16:59.320 --> 0:16:59.960 quite a journey. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.480 Been something else, hasn't it. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.520 I actually think the war stuff is important as well, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.480 because as we're on the brink of the potential war 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.720 with Iran, you know, we're going to talk about this 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.800 with Rokhana. There were and remember our interviews with some 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.920 of those AOC Trump voters in the Bronx. So I'm 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.600 not going to sit here and claim it was everybody, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.119 but there was genuine not just promise, but hope that 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.679 this person actually meant it. On the war in Ukraine, well, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.000 here Trump is a year ago. By the way, it's 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.959 the four year anniversary since Russia invaded Ukraine. It's been 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.800 a year now since Donald Trump spoke, and here he 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.840 is promising to end the war in Ukraine and nothing 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.400 has been ended. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.200 Let's take a listen. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.800 I'm also working tirelessly to end the savage conflict in Ukraine. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.639 Millions of Ukrainians and Russians have been needlessly killed or 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.520 wounded in this horrific and brutal conflict with no end 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:55.399 in sight. The United States has sent hundreds of billions 0:17:55.440 --> 0:18:02.119 of dollars to support Ukraine's defense, with no security. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.480 With no way. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.440 So yeah, where are we now? 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.639 And it's actually really interesting, you know, even to think again, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.720 I never believed we will solve it before I even 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.560 get into office. I think I genuinely did underestimate. There 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.639 are people who do believe stuff like that. You know, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:23.000 whenever I think back to the election, I have met 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.879 like five people who actually believed that the IVF thing 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.400 was going to happen, And I'm like, come. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.720 On, man, you know, like, what are we doing here? 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.439 But they bought it. So, I mean apparently even in 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.199 the year twenty twenty four, there were a number of 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.800 voters who were like, oh, okay, I believe you whenever 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:39.560 you say X, Y and Z. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.240