WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 18 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:10.920 It is Thursday, February eighteenth. This is Catlars Happy Hour, 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.880 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Duval Motor Company. And now 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.200 a guy who always looks at life through teal colored glasses, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.080 Jay Peace, if it might be time for an update. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.800 These are black, that is the old primary color. Maybe 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.720 I need to go shopping. Welcome in. This is Jaguar's 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.160 Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. His name 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.040 is Jeff Logman. Well, his name was Joe Portnado. This 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.440 is Jeff Logman from his home studio. I'm at the stadium. Logs, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.520 good afternoon. We have a program ahead of us today, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.400 teal with it. Yes, the primary color has changed. We'll 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.240 hear from Jimmy Luck, the head equipment manager. They'll show 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.840 off some of that teal. I mean, you know what 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.320 it looks like. The Jags have worn this before. We 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.480 will hear from Jimmy and studio coming up about fifteen 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.920 minutes or so. And what is next? Now with the 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.520 staff in place, we're inside four weeks away from the 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.720 start of free agency. Maybe we'll list a few guys 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.319 that the Jags could tag or sign before then. Who 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.440 do you keep, who do you let go free agency 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.199 right around the corner, and we'll hear from Charlie Strong 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.920 from the ozone podcast that posted earlier today. He's the 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.640 assistant head coach, the inside linebackers coach, and he is 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.880 reunited with Irvin Meyer. Will get into that coming up. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.720 Then our final thoughts on Trevor Lawrence's throwing session. Hey, Logs. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.040 By the way, breaking news, the Mars rover has landed 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.640 and guess what, there's still Martian soil and rocks everywhere 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.280 on Mars according to the video I'm watching right now. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:59.160 I think teo glasses would look sweet on you. I 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.480 really do. I thought you should get some teal colored glasses. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.360 Of the frames, get tell frames, Yeah, I like frames. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.760 What do you think basic frames? The teal you know 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.280 it could? Yeah yeah, why not? Team be a team player, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.960 get the teal, teal with it the whole thing. That's 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.359 what we're doing this week, Like you know, hey, look, look, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.360 you know I am. I am happy to hear that 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.720 teal will be the primary color. It has been the 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:28.200 most victorious of all Jaguar jerseys, and it goes back 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.240 to the roots of where this team was founded on 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.960 and for me, there was really there wasn't any other 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.720 decision to make. I mean, I I understand they had 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.520 a big campaign to kind of have the fans get 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.720 involved and and uh and obviously they did and the 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.239 fans spoke, and that's all fine and Danny, But look, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.799 I never understood the whole obsession with black. I don't 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.560 I don't quite understand that platte can be a great 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.920 accent color. But if you're gonna stand, if you're gonna 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.000 stand apart a little bit, you gotta have your own color. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.919 And color that you have been has been teal. So 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.600 deal with it and stick with it. Deal with it. Yes, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.959 and it hearkens back to those mid to late nineties 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.200 teams the first few years. Of course you were a 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.240 part of those, with some successful football teams as well. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.360 We'll hear from Jimmy lock on just why the change 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.320 was made, and it was because of the fan response. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.560 A lot of times on social media after our Wednesday 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.480 during the season happy hours, he would come on here 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.400 and unveil the uniforms and all heck would break loose 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.640 on social media. We'll hear from Jimmy and break that 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.960 down a little bit coming up also a little later, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.240 the final thoughts about Trevor Lawrence's throwing session. I'm sure 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.160 you watched a little of that. Logs will break that 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.320 down and Charlie Strong, we'll get a comment from him 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.640 on the ozone podcast. But now you know what's coming 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:53.320 up next coaching staffs here, Yes, Locks, you're gonna say something. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.360 I got a question, hit me, okay. Charlie Strong, who 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.800 is the assistant head coach? And and obviously it was 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.840 one of the first hires that Herbert Meyer May he 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.200 was the first. Yes, and Charlie's experiences on the defensive 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:11.160 side of the ball. Right, So when you get hired, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.599 since sure the assistant head coach, I mean you probably 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.840 get to pick the position that you get to coach, right, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.080 I mean because you're the assistant head coach. I mean 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.320 you're like the l f A two, you know, I mean, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:28.160 the second guy in charge. Right. So do you think 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.680 that Charlie Strong came in and and urban said, hey, look, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.080 you know I want to bring in and obviously you're 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.240 gonna be a big part of what we do. You're 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.680 gonna be my assistant head coach. And obviously you're experienced 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.599 on the defensive side of the ball. Where do you 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.760 want to coach. Charlie Strong looked at the roster and said, 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:50.080 defensive line, got josh Allen Levan Chase looks promising, but 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.680 really we don't even have any defensive tackles to speak of. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.920 And then let's look at the secondary. Well, you know, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.760 we got one guy we we feel good about, maybe 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.440 because he was the first round pick, but really, other 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:00.719 than that, we don't have a whole lot. And then 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.520 you don't get the linebackers. And you see two really 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.440 good football players and Joe Schobert and Miles Jack and 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.360 you go, I think I'll coach that crowd. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.480 I'm gonna be the assistant head coach, and I'll take linebackers. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.360 I love it. Hey, that's what it is. He's the 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.560 right hand man and he has the pick of the litter, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.240 as they say. And we'll get into that a little 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.400 bit later coming up. But hey, the staff's in now. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.080 That means we're we're inside four weeks from the start 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.120 of the league year logs. So the first thing up 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.360 for the staff is to figure out who's on the team, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.000 evaluate what you have, figure out what you want to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.240 bring back before the start of free agency. Resign early 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.080 or franchise tag or all that, and then once you 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.240 get to free agency, what moves do you want to 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.479 make in that department. That's where they are right now. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.320 This is that time frame where there's they're studying this 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.840 roster to try to figure out because the franchise tag 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.080 opportunity opens next week sometime. Is the first chance to 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.040 start tagging a play here, and then you can resign 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.000 your guys if you want. There are a lot of 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.920 guys coming up for free agency. Yeah, there, you could 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.359 resign guys any time. I mean, that's so that's the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.400 one benefit of having your own free agents is that 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.640 you don't have to wait until free agency to talk 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.400 to your guys, and so that conversation can be ongoing. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.600 But I'm sure that that recently with this coaching staff, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.240 I'm sure it has been an absolute crash course and 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:34.080 evaluating the roster that you have because they need to 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.719 make some decisions and there's probably not a ton of them, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.400 and some of the decisions that you have to make 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.039 aren't looming like you have to make them now, but 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.760 there's a few of them that you've got to make. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.160 I mean, as far as guys that are going to 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.640 get free agency, and do you want to have a 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.840 conversation with those guys before that happened, So you want 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.240 to have the input from all of the new staff. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.440 So I'm sure that that has been priority number one. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.640 And then once that is done, evaluating your own roster 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.159 with your own coaching staff, then you move on to 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.600 the next phase, or in conjunction with that phase, you're 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.080 evaluating the potential free agent crop because you want to 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.880 have some type of comparison, you know, so when you 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.680 evaluate your guys, you're also kind of putting that on 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:18.000 a scale of well, our guys like a six. Okay, well, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.440 let's look of at all the position, the guys that 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.720 are a free agent at that position. Well, there's gonna 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.720 be three guys that we think are sevens. So maybe 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.520 you sit there and you say, okay, well, our guys 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.440 the six, we can do better with this guy in 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.800 free agency with who's a seven. And there's let's say 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.520 three of them that are going to be available in 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.200 free agency. So let's not making resign our guy who's 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.360 a six of priority right now because we know we've 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.080 got three sevens and free agency if we get there 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.560 and sevens and sixes are of course, like a grade 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.200 that I would put on a player, that scouts would 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.520 put on a player. And so I think those are 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.840 the things that the coaching staff has to do now, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.440 because you can't evaluate yours unless you can kind of 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.200 compare with what you else you can get elsewhere. And 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.040 then once you evaluate yours and then the free agent 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.640 prop or the expected free agent crop, then you turn 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.480 to the evaluation of the college draft class, and that's 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.000 gonna be really challenging. And I know that the Jaguars 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.080 made some hires this week to strengthen their personnel department 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.560 that they brought on with their general manager and uh, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.440 and those guys, I'm sure are very trusted people. Uh, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.640 trusted people both from the general manner standpoint and also 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.240 from the head coaching standpoint, because you can see that 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:29.840 there's kind of a little bit of a mix in 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.120 the background, so you can see that they're kind of, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.400 I don't want to say, circling the truth. But they're 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.760 bringing in people now that are going to help them 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.920 evaluate personnel, pro personnel and college personnel. And that's the 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.720 priority right now. You gotta you gotta make the evaluations 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.640 now because here pretty soon it's gonna be time to 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.960 start making decisions. Yeah, here it comes. The decision making 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.120 process is right around the corner. So we're gonna play 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.600 a game Todaylogs, I'm gonna go through a handful of 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.080 painting a football game. No, we're not playing a football game. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.600 It's a game in evolving football. But it's not a 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.000 football game. This is pending free agents. We're gonna pick 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.600 a few pending Jaguars free agents, and would you general 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.720 manager Jeff Loghum and resign them or figure out a 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.600 way to keep them around? How about that? Are you ready? 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.520 Let's start with detail. That's gonna be a really easy game, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.000 really easy game for me. Let's go. Okay, cornerback d 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:29.719 J Hayden thirty one years old, absolutely bringing back. He's 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.560 one of the best nickel players that there is in 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.760 the league. In my opinion. I think he's an outstanding 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.199 player and he would provide great leadership. Well, it's a 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.160 little early we get go into numbers. You know that 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.360 we haven't had the full cap ready, so this is 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.040 kind of just a yes or no kind of game. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.040 That's a good answer. Okay, you're a yes. Put you 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.760 for a yes on d J. Hayden, Tyler Eiffort tight 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:56.719 end I want to see with out there. And and 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.240 the reason I say that is I think Tyler Effort 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:04.440 was solid. Uh, but for that position, you need dynamic, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.320 and I want to have somebody who's really dynamic. And 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.640 you know the old thing I was talking about. Okay, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.920 well there's your guy might be a six, but there 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.680 might be a guy out there in free agency who's 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.600 a seven. Well, the Tennessee Titans, I believe, have a 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.400 tight end. It's going to be available in free age, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.760 possible possibly in free agency, and John new Smith, I 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.160 mean that's a whole another level where where you can 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.640 get at at the tight end position. So for me, uh, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.760 that's not a priority, and I would rather shop in 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.600 the market and make an upgrade there. For me, I'd 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.360 rather draft a tight end because if a tight end 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.800 comes out in free agency, then the original team probably 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.520 has a reason why he's out there in free agency, right, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.719 not always though that JP This year is different. I mean, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.319 I think that argument can work, I think in some years, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.880 but this year especially, that argue can be put on 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.480 the show. And the reason why it's with the cap 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.800 expected to drop down a hundred eighty million. Wherever it 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.840 ends up, you're gonna have a significant amount of teams 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.120 they're not gonna have a choice. Jp they're gonna have 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.640 to cut ties with guys they love, I mean that 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.760 they absolutely love. And uh so you're gonna be able 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.200 to find some guys that aren't just okay, well, there's 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.520 a reason why this god is available because the other team, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.800 you know, they don't like him. Well, the big reason 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.040 is going to be for some teams they can't get 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.680 under the dagum cap. I mean they don't have a choice. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.920 So there, you know, take that kind of out of 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.160 your mind this year because of the cap situation. Abrey 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.600 Jones defensive tackle undrafted players some years ago. Now he's 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.880 thirty years of age. What would you do with Abrey? 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:54.400 I would probably move on and uh because I think 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.360 you look I like Abrey and he has been one 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.560 of the longest tenure Jaguars And uh. But you've got 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.400 a really good young player that that you drafted last 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:10.000 year and you're probably excited about him, and you need 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.920 to make a significant upgrade at the defensive tackle spots. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.880 And and the upgrade needs to happen when it comes 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.720 to finding people that can rush the passer and push 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.840 the pocket, and that's not what Avery does best. You know, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.360 Avery is kind of a run player. He's solid, but 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.280 you know, you need to make a you need to 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.720 make a little step up from solid. But look, here's 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.080 the deal. I like Avery Jones, and I'm not going 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.480 to just ignore it and say, hey, I don't need him. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.000 I'm moving on from him. I'm having a conversation with 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.559 Avery and that, Hey, I want to bring him back, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.840 but I want to bring him back at a really 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.840 affordable number. And when I say an affordable number, probably 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.000 close to minimum. He ended up year the year hurt 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.600 last year. He hasn't been a big numbers guy. Uh 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.280 So for me, I think you can probably do a 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.520 deal that's close to minimum and then let him come 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.599 in and compe eat and uh and see how you 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.440 end up in free agencies, see how you end up 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.679 in the draft, and see how how the competition ends up. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.160 I think I think you bring him back. But I 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.240 think you bring him back, and he's not a you know, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.000 you're not gonna put a big number on them. We're 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.120 gonna get a few more here before we head out 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.839 to our first brake. Log's Keelan Cole wide receiver. This 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.400 is a position group that has a little bit of 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.960 star power to it. Helan Cole worked his way up 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:28.720 as an undrafted player. Now he'll be a free agent. Yeah, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.800 And I like clan Cole. I think he is a 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.680 guy that, uh, you know, going back to my days 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.200 with the Jets, the head equipment guy with the New 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.800 York Jets, Bill Hampton, Sr. Is an amazing guy and 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.640 and uh he had an assistant JP that worked with him, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.319 and he was an older fellow and his name was 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.559 Mickey Rendin and we used to have a lot of 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.640 fun with Mickey. You know. Mickey was a retired guy, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.120 you know, used to work in the Yankees clubhouse forever, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.760 had a million stories about some of the all time 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.960 great Jets and also some of the all time great 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.880 Yankees because he worked both clubhouses. And he used to 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.280 have a say in him and Bill Hampton Senior, and 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.920 it was the more you can do, young man, the 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.600 more you can do. And I think that they used 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.200 to tell us that all the time because they just 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.319 wanted us to help them fold towels in the longer room, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.560 which we did. But I think it applies to Keeling Cole, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.360 because Keilan Cole does everything that you ask of him. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.480 He does punt returns, kick returns, he plays the all 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.960 three positions at wide receiver, and he doesn't with a 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.920 smile on his face, and he goes about his business. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.720 I think he's he's a strong professional, and I like 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.840 his work ethic and And is he gonna be a 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.880 high price free agent? I don't think he is, But 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.640 I think he's gonna be an affordable player. And I 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.960 want to try to bring back as as many good professional, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.680 affordable players as I can. I want Keelan colback. Let's 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.160 get one more. And we've heard your thoughts about this 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.800 next player already in previews shows, but let's hear it again. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.760 Tyler Shatley interior offensive line and is going to be 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.160 a free agent. He's been around here as a backup 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.120 for a long time. He's had limited roles in starting 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.080 opportunities when lender's hurt or when one of the guards 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.040 is out. Shatley could have a chance to be a 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.960 starter in this league. Do you try to get him back? 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:22.080 You obviously try right Well, let me start by saying 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:27.400 this about Tyler Shatley. Tyler Shatley's value is probably more 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.760 to this franchise than maybe some other franchises because you're 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.960 starting center hasn't been able to still hasn't been able 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.640 to stay healthy consistently, and that's Brandon Lender. It seems 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.880 like three out of four years that Tyler Shatley is 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.120 needed for quarter maybe half of the season because of 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.880 an injury that that Brandon Lenders sustained. So I would 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.400 like to have him back just because he has uh, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.560 he's a very good center, he's dependable, he's durable, he 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.240 is a good solid player. And on top of that, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.280 Tyler Shatley, I think this past year really showed that 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.280 he can be a starting caliber center in this league, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.240 which may make it difficult to bring him back. So 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.480 I would like to see him back, but I don't 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.240 know if you're gonna be able to afford him because 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.480 he got a lot of good film out there last 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.200 year with the amount that he played. And let me 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.360 say this JP, because I'm one of those guys that 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.200 that you know, you look at players and your roster 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.240 is is I use a term that Dick Catchman, who 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.440 used to be the senior editor a Jaguars dot Com 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.360 and he was pre ozone, and he used to say 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.840 and to call players, you know, the jars on the sholf, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.520 And and I adhere to the philosophy that if you've 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.760 got a roster and those are your jars on the shelves, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.200 all the players, I don't like taking jars off of 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.280 that shelf unless I get a little a prettier, more 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.160 valuable jar to put up there before I take one 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.640 of them down. You know. So I believe in competition. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.000 I believe in making your roster as strong as you've 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:05.760 possibly can and letting the competition decide which ones aren't 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.760 at pretty to take down. So keep them all up 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.439 there until you start at in real pretty ones and 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.960 let him compete and then take them all so so 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.560 you'll probably I'll probably end up saying a lot more 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.680 keep them, and yes, I want him back, more so 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.879 than I will say, no, I want that guy gone. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.360 I want to replace, just because I do like to 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:30.199 have the competition, and you would rather take a a 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.480 put a good one up there before you take one off. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.480 You're having a few pending free agents. General manager Jeff 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.760 Logaman making some early decisions before they started the league year. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.879 And we're back in a moment with head equipment manager 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:49.480 Jimmy Luck. The Teel primary uniforms have been announced. We'll 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.240 get his thoughts on that a little later. Some Trevor Talk, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.760 you know Trevor Is, and we'll go around the National 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.000 Football League Charlie Strong. Also we'll hear from the Jaguars 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.679 assistant head coach in the ozone podcast. All that coming up. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.800 We're off and running a Jaguars Happy Hour on the 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:20.080 Jaguars Digital Network, a Tropical Smoothie Cafe. 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