1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and no he, I'm strong and Jetty. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: Our troops these to the Euphrates where prepaired with our 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 3: SDF partners, are there to keep a lid on ISIS 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: and permit violent extremist organizations from gathering strength and being 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: able to attack the homeland of the United States. ISIS 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: aspires to attack US, as we know ISIS launch a 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: successful attack against Russia just a few months ago. That's 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: why those troops are there. So any decision to bring 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: them out would need to weigh that going forward, and 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: I'm certain that the new administration will take a hard 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: look on that when they come into office. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: So Trump said we should have nothing to do with Syria. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: Obviously we currently do have something to do with Syria, 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: as we have nine hundred troops there and seventy five 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: different airstrikes yesterday in Syria. Tom Friedman mister intervene in 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: the Middle East, writing in the New York Times, they did, 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: mister President, a letter to Donald Trump. We need to 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: be very involved in Syria, and here's how so that's 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: a different point of view, and then he got this 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: La Times article. Today in Syria, militias armed by the 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: Pentagon are fighting those armed by the CIA, which makes 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: it quite complicated the always confusing Middle East major headline, 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: the regime of Bashar Ala Sade has fallen in Syria, 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: and that is sending shockwaves not only around the region 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: but globally. Is various powers are revealed to be stronger, 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: weaker than previously thought. All sorts of stuff to discuss 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: with Doctor Jeff mccauslin. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: CBS News military analyst. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Jeff, How are you doing well? 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 6: Guys? It's crazy with you. 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: Well, what's your take over this stunning collapse of the 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: government in Syria. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 6: I think I'd say three things quickly. First of all, 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 6: an amazing surprise. The Assad family had controlled this country 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 6: for over five decades in the brutal fashion in the 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: Civil War, seamed to have frozen about four years ago, 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 6: and suddenly in eleven days they have collapsed. Second of all, 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 6: of course, this is an amazing geopolitical disaster, particularly for 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 6: the Russians who supported USAD for many years with military forces, 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 6: and the potential loss for them of two major bases 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 6: they've enjoyed unaval based at Tartuuse and a major air 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 6: base at Lakatia. And then also a major geopolitical disaster 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 6: for Iran because Syria, as the hub of hubs is 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: somebody once said in the region was a major conduit 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 6: for men material and weapons to their primary proxy in 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 6: the region, Hits Baalah. And now when you know things 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: were going bad, it's Valava was unwilling to support Syria, 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 6: Olivia was I unwilling to support Syria. Iran was unwilling 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 6: to have its allies in Iraq Militia Group support Syria, 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 6: and it collapsed. And last not as the least the 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 6: United States. You have to be aware of so called 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 6: catastrophic success. No one will weep for Bashir al Asada 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 6: bootle dictator. But if in return you end up with 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: a very extreme jihadi Islamic government in Syria that looks 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 6: like Afghanistan, well that won't necessarily be good either. Ye. 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: And for some reason it just popped into my head 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: whoever's famous for the old saying, you Americans, you feel 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: like you can fix everything. It was bad news for Russia, 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: it's bad news for Iran. What can we do to 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: make sure it's good news for us? Well, I think 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: with the one, can we do anything? 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be very difficult. I mean, obviously, 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 6: if you don't want a wider military intervention, those said 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: well we shouldn't intervene might want to look around and 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: realize that, as you guys said a moment ago, we've 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 6: already gotten nine hundred troops Insuria number one, and we 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: just did seventy five air strikes number two of the weekend, 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 6: so we're already involved militarily. And now I think it's 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 6: going to be an effort by US, with allies in 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 6: the region and elsewhere, to try to find some mechanism 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: diplomatically and politically to pull together some kind of a 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 6: regime in Syria that can bring in together all these 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 6: various the spirit groups. You know, you've got at least 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 6: three major armies, one supported by Turkey, one supported by US, 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: and in the northeast in this group HTS, can we 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 6: get them to work together to come up with some 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 6: kind of viable government or do they turn on each 80 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: other and end up in some kind of subsequent civil war, 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 6: bringing on greater misery for the Syrian people. And more 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: and more refugees. 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, whether they can be taking at their word that 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: they'll be pluralistic and fair to religious minorities is anybody's guests. 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: But Bear's just you know, doubling down on what you 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: said that the inability of Russia to back their client 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: and stave off this attack, I mean they did practically 88 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: nothing really goes to show how weakened they are by 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: their efforts in Ukraine, doesn't it? 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 6: Oh, it absolutely does. You know, again, they were instrumental 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 6: in making sure that Assad wasn't defeated several years ago, 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: and had devoted massive air strikes to make sure that 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: didn't happen. But now you know, when things become difficult, 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 6: they were unwilling to do that. They made a few 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 6: air strikes, but quickly back down. And so the question 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 6: now becomes, can they salvage their bases as they try 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: to confine some kind of relationship with the new regime. 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 6: I think they'll do that. That's going to probably be 99 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 6: pretty difficult, based on their track record at bombing Syrians. 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 6: Number one, and now they also have accepted Bashir al 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: Assad's application for asylum in Russia, where he'll likely live 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: out his days. 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, correct me if I'm wrong. This is also, at 104 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: least in the short term, a hell of a big 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: win for Israel. 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 6: Oh, without a doubt it is. But again it could 107 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 6: be catastrophic success if you end up with that kind 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 6: of extreme regime. He Israeli to have moved quickly to 109 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 6: occupy a so called buffer zone. How they've been established 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: at the end of the nineteen seventy three yob Kipoor war, 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: just to make sure that groups did not have a 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 6: greater ability to transit from Syria into Israel and threaten 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 6: Israel and everyone. Israelis in particular are going to be 114 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 6: concerned about what happens to the massive stockpiles of weapons 115 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 6: left behind and the Syrian army collapsed. What's going to 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: happen to, as we well know, some visual amount of 117 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: chemical weapons that Assad had at his disposal in the 118 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: aftermath that his armies collapsing. Certainly, what don't want to 119 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: see those things being acquired by one on one or 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 6: another of several extreme groups that operate in the leision. 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: Do you think this. 122 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 4: Helps with the pressure Trump's going to put on Putin 123 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: to come to some sort of ceasefire agreement or end 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: that war. 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 6: I don't know if it helps, but it underscores just 126 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 6: you know, how weak I think in some ways mister 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: Putin's position is as well. I mean, we talk an 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 6: awful lot about the fact on the news that Russians 129 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 6: are gaining a more and more territory in the southeastern 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: portion of Ukraine. And they are. They've gained more territory 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 6: in the last month than they did in all of 132 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three by a large member measure. But they're 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 6: doing that enormous cost. Estimates by the British intelligence is 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 6: fifteen hundred casualties in any single day. Now the Russians 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 6: exceeded two thousand casualties by most estimates on the twenty 136 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 6: eighth November, and November of this year may have been 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: the bloodiest month in the entire war for the Russians. 138 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: So gaining territory, but just that enormous cost, and we're 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 6: starting to see some of the effects on the Russian 140 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: economy that we hope for for several years. Inflation rate 141 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: in Russia right now is nine percent or higher, interest 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 6: rates over twenty percent and higher, and the Russian government 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 6: has now announced reduced payments to families of soldiers who 144 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: are killed in action or families of soldiers who are wounded, 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 6: because the costs that they have been bearing for those 146 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: payments has just become enormous. 147 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 148 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Jeff mccauslin on the line, Jeff, final question, slash thought. 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: I know you were you're deployed to the Middle East 150 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, commanding artillery battalion and tell us 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: just a. 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 5: Little bit about that experience and. 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: As you came away from it, what did you understand 154 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: more clearly about that part of the world. 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 6: Well, that's a great question. 156 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure you could write a book and answer to 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: the question. Keep it break actually did. 158 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 6: When I came away, knowing that it was the you know, 159 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 6: the wide disparity across the region of various different groups, 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: particularly based on religion Sea Ied versus Sunni. The support 161 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 6: for Asad in the region had basically been because frankly, 162 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 6: he was ahead of the Alawhites, which was a Sad 163 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: based group and serious So that's why he gained so 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 6: much support from Aura. These other groups are largely so 165 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 6: because the map of the Middle East is really one 166 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 6: drawn by Europeans in the colonial era. So consequently, in 167 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: the aftermath of these pick your wars. All those old 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: historical ties and ethnic and religious ties, there are so many, 169 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 6: so fundamental to people's identity rise to the surface and 170 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 6: make it enormously complicated for a country like Syria, which 171 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 6: has you know, Arabs and Christians and Shoonies and sites 172 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 6: and Alohites and whatever, to find some common ground where 173 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 6: they can create a structure that they all find acceptable, 174 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: that can also provide basic social services, pick up the garbage, 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 6: deliver the mail, provide basic police in a community, those 176 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 6: kind of things. So I definitely learned that. And then 177 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 6: the other thing you learn when you're in conflex like this, 178 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: it's just the dramatic problem and the plight of you know, refugees. 179 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: We saw thousands of thousands of refugees playing ahead of 180 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 6: dams as they moved back into southern Iraq. Will consider 181 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 6: the fact that Syria has somewhere around thirteen to fourteen 182 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 6: that million refugees, probably seven million displaced people inside Syria, 183 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 6: five million displaced people outside of Syria, and we saw 184 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: massive refugee flows early on in the civil war. So 185 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 6: now when we come back in the aftermath of Asad, 186 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 6: will this political conditions in the aftermath create conditions whereby 187 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 6: those people can go home and rebuild their lives after 188 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 6: thirteen years, or will this set off even more displacements 189 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: which will be unsettling to the countries in the region 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: and even beyond. 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: CBS News military consultant Jeff McCausland, Jeff, always interesting, Thanks 192 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: so much. 193 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: For the time. 194 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 6: Take care guys. 195 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I read about this stuff. I've read about this 196 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: stuff for so many years, and I still don't know 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: where I am. For instance, reading David Ignatius's column in 198 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: the Post today for the moment, Syria is a violent mosaic, 199 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 4: with Turkish back groups controlling western Syria all the way 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 4: to Damascus, a US back Kurdish militia controlling the northeast, 201 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: and Jordanians supported militias dominated in the south, along with 202 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: all kinds of other different splinters of kind of al Qaeda, 203 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: kind of ices, kind of whatever. I don't know is 204 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: our history of being involved in these things, have any 205 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: success stories? 206 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 5: Boy? 207 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: Getting back to what Jeff was saying, and to your point, 208 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: I wish that you know, if I were some sort 209 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: of supreme being, I would say, look. 210 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: All those borders the Euros drew. 211 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Up in nineteen seventeen without a clue in the region 212 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. It was precisely No, no, you soony, you're 213 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: over here. Gee, I go there, all right, courage, you 214 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: get your own country. Finally, congratulations, call it whatever you want, 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Just redraw all those borders and maybe move people or whatever. 216 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: But enough of the h R, never ending, stirm and drunk, 217 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, final point. And Jeff led me beautifully into this. 218 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this up anyway. I was listening 219 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: to an Iranian brit who now lives in America. 220 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: Pick a country, what. 221 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: But this woman was talking about how the one thing 222 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: people don't understand is you remember the whole twelfth Madi thing, 223 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: how a lot of Sheites are looking for, you know, 224 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: the Judgment Day essentially, and the way you bring about 225 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Judgment Day is through a war against the unbeliever. Specifically 226 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a quote when the last drop of blood falls from 227 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the last Jew. Iran wants to wipe out Israel, not 228 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: for mundane geo political stuff. 229 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: It doesn't want the land. 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: It wants the last Jew to be wiped from the 231 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: face of the earth for religious reasons. How do you 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: sign a treaty with people like that? And and if 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: they're proxies hesbler Hamas. 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 5: Or right next door to you? How are you gonna have. 235 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: A ceasefire with that? So we're gonna have Mike lions 236 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: On later today. 237 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: Those are our two go to guys, mccauslin and Lines 238 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: usually when there's a story like this, and they often 239 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: don't agree. So I'll be interested to hear what Lyon 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: says about the current situation. 241 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. 242 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: Where I am in terms of how involved we ought 243 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: to be for whatever reason right now might be to 244 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: the level of coffee I've had, just I'm feeling more. 245 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: How about we back out and let them all fight 246 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 4: it out for a while and see how things turn out. Well, 247 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 4: I have had precisely the right amount of coffee, and 248 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: I disagree strongly. 249 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: Okay, we got plenty to talk about. Today's stay with us. 250 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: A man in Canada saved his wife after a polar 251 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: bear lunched at her, and he leaped onto the bear's back, 252 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: shouting finish her. 253 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 5: Wow. 254 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: By the way, nobody watches Saturday and Live but me. 255 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: I watch it every week, have since nineteen seventy six 256 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: or whenever started. But I thought that was one of 257 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: the worst cold open and the history side of Alive 258 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: and I love Dana Carvey, I loved David Spade. 259 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I just thought it was awful thought the jokes were terrible. 260 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't funny. I happen to see it after online. 261 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: It was quaint, it was okay. It seemed like it 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: just did see. It seemed like an anachronism. It seemed 263 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: like something that somebody would have found funny in the 264 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: early nineties. Maybe, yeah, yeah, I'm tempted to keep discussing 265 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the Middle Eastern Syria and religious fanatics and the impossibility 266 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: of negotiating with them, but I won't. I also won't 267 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: go too far down this road. We'll do it another time. 268 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: But how Trump and company are going to attack the 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: problem with America's university is becoming these indoctrination centers for 270 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: postmodern neo Marxist the madness, and and we'll do that 271 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: in full at some point, because it's all through accreditation, which. 272 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 5: Is going to be really interesting. 273 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Look, if you're if you're not teaching, you're you're perverting 274 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: all your teaching and all your science with this woke crap. 275 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: We're not going to accredit you. 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: So that could be a good cudgel to get them 277 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: to come too, or come around, come correct, whatever phrase 278 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you want to use. But came across this. This is 279 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: from Yale for the IVY League, Jack, the elite of 280 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: the elite. Didn't Yale just or was it Princeton? I 281 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: guess just passed Harvard as number one. As if I 282 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: give a crap about any of. 283 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: That, I refuse to dignify that comment. 284 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Agreed percentage of a's in their various concentrations. Economics, it's 285 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: just over fifty two percent. As math, for instance, it's 286 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: fifty five percent as well. Just cut to the bottom 287 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: or the top rather Women's Gender and Sexuality studies. 288 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 5: Ninety two percent. 289 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: As Oh my god, there's no room for a final 290 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: nail in the coffin of higher education. But I guess 291 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: we'll have to squeeze another nail in between these two. 292 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe just throw a rock at it. That's 293 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: just embarrassing. You should be embarrassed for yourself. You made 294 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: up a major that has no relevance to the real 295 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: world or anybody's needs, and then you give everybody. 296 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: An a well right, And to repeat a point that 297 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: I made a while back, and it's one of the 298 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: cleverest things I've heard about this. And when these professors, 299 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: whether it's Claudine Gay at Harvard or whoever else, gets 300 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: busted for plagiarism, of course they're plagiarizing. They are repeating 301 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: the incantations of a cult. They're not trying to innovate. 302 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: There's no science in women's gender and sexuality studies except 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe around the edges. It's the repeating of their doctrines. 304 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: They're not. Of course, they're plagiarizing. That's what they're supposed 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: to do. 306 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: Wow, everybody who takes that major gets all a's pretty much. 307 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just whatever, what have to do it again? 308 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: A B? Never mind us C. 309 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: And then if I shoot the professor, I get a B. 310 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: And then you go off to some lesser college and teach. 311 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: I suppose is what you do? Oh whatever is in 312 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: more minds. 313 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: I guess for pro assassination. Now they too are strong and. 314 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: They kickle tough for Matthew, right, this is for the division. 315 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 5: For the Chiefs. Desions is the d bike for the 316 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 5: defension to the Chiefs. My goodness. Then they shot their opponents. 317 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: Sell me. 318 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: The Kansas City Chiefs the most hated team in the NFL. Right, 319 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: now except for by Chiefs fans because they always went 320 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: on the last play something crazy they the other team 321 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 4: went the game. 322 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: I was at last Friday. 323 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: The other team fumbles the snap before they're going to 324 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: kick the winning field goal, block a punt. This that 325 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: bounced it off the uprights and it went. 326 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 5: Through the for the division. 327 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: They God have mercy on his soul for saying that. 328 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: Oh okay, and Patrick Mahomes almost looked embarrassed afterwards, just 329 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: kind of. 330 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know everybody hates this. Wow wow. 331 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: NFL season is definitely heating out the big fun So 332 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how to talk about this correctly. 333 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 4: This is the assassination of the CEO of United Healthcare. 334 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: Oh the moment it happened, and when we first talked 335 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: about it, I thought, this is going to be ugly. 336 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: This is what people are going to talk about the 337 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: way they hate insurance companies, and that's going to be 338 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: the focus of this story. And it has been for 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: a lot of people, including a lot of the crowd 340 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: out there who's happy the guy's dead and things that 341 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: needs to happen more often. 342 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: Then you gotta factor this in last week and I 343 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: don't have the notes in front of me. 344 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: Whichever health insurance group came out and said, we'll now 345 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: double the amount that we pay for anesthesia. 346 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: And was that a caving to threats like so you 347 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: don't get assassinated. The timing of it was a little 348 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable at the very least. I'd say that was a 349 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: frightened response. 350 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 5: To the mood. 351 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Right he y'all hate us, hate us less because of this. 352 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: Oh boy, so that's rewarding an assassination right, well, and 353 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: I don't know, there's there's kind of a fevered mood 354 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: in the land because it was who was it, Blue Cross? 355 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: It said, hey, look we're gonna put in time limits 356 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: for the amount of anesthesia for various procedures. And the jokes, 357 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: which were pretty good jokes, were about, hey, we're at 358 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: ten minutes turn off the gas in the middle of 359 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: your amputation. 360 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: You know, it's a nightmare. It's right, it's hard. 361 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: You're getting heart surgery or something like that, and you're like, hey, 362 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Sorry, dude, the meter ran out. 363 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: That's not what they meant. 364 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: It's just we have to get into the weeds into 365 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 5: these things. 366 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: Well, one of my favorite podcasts were It was appalled 367 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: at the idea of even discussing high insurance costs, because 368 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: that makes it seem like it's justified even bringing it up, right. Yeah, 369 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: so I don't know how to approach this. 370 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I just I think the Pandora's 371 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: box is open on the discussion. I see their point exactly. Well, 372 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: you're basically saying, like I don't, I shouldn't have to 373 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: even have this argument. A man was assassinated on the 374 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: street for having committed no at least direct crime, depending 375 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: on who you ask. But oh, it's worth pointing out. 376 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: And this is a note from somebody or other Henry 377 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: who pointed out that this dude was born in nineteen 378 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: seventy four, the son of a grain silo worker, got 379 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: an accounting degree from Iowa, married his college sweetheart, has 380 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: two kids, worked his way up, joined United Healthcare, worked 381 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: his way up there. Big supporter of the Special Olympics, 382 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, not some evil character out of a novel. 383 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: He's a hard working iowe. Now, are there problems with 384 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: health care and insurance companies and stuff like that. Yeah, 385 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: But the idea that you just murder him in cold 386 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: blood on a sidewalk is just yeah, but it's tough. 387 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's obviously awful. 388 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: It's awful, and if you go down that road even 389 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: this much, it's a disaster. Were you going to try 390 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: to affect policy, either in the government or private business 391 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: by threatening people by them being scared of you? 392 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's just said to Everything falls apart at 393 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that point, and I mean everything. 394 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: The whole thing falls apart. 395 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, some executive, some executive at Ford says, hey, we're 396 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: losing so much money on electric cars now that the 397 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: federal mandate has gone. We're going to offer like one 398 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: or two, but that's it. We're going to go back 399 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: to doing what we do best. Then somebody guns him 400 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: down on the sidewalk for reasons of climate change and 401 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: climate disaster. 402 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: Weasy to picture, Well, if that happened, I certainly wouldn't 403 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: be okay with then having a conversation, well maybe we 404 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: ought to take another look at electric cars. 405 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: That wouldn't be cool. 406 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: Right, Why are we talking about this and the other 407 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: thing that bothers me? And again I want to get 408 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: to Craig, the healthcare guru, back on to chat with 409 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: him about this. But what people don't understand because I 410 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: was reading some of the specific gripes online on Twitter. 411 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I read a story that included a bunch of them. 412 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: Why people are mad about healthcare and it has to 413 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: do with the whole delay or I'm sorry, deny delay, 414 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: defend thing where and it could be argued by some 415 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: And here we are entering the discussion. 416 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: And that gut and that's those are exactly the words 417 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: that were on the shellcasings of the bullets. 418 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a bit of a he said depose 419 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: instead of. 420 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: Delay. 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, a lot of what's going on, and people 422 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: don't understand this is because of two things. Number One, 423 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: the incentives and disincentives that Obamacare put in place for 424 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: insurance companies. They dance to the federal government's pied piper. 425 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 5: They have little flexibility. 426 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Granted, they're they're big, giant, nasty corporations that have lobbyists 427 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: to and bribe politicians like crazy. That's still true. But 428 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the point is they are so interwoven with government policy 429 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: at this point. And secondly, and Craig's talked about this 430 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: a fair amount, the whole Medicare thing and and and 431 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: medicaid is built on an absolute mountain of lies. The 432 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: end result of which is doctor surgeon hospital gets paid 433 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: like sixty percent of their costs to see a government patient. 434 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: They lose money on every patient. And Congress said, you 435 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: got to see them, or will put you out a business. 436 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose money on it because we don't have 437 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: the guts to tell Americans how much tax they actually 438 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: have to pay to get the benefits they're getting, which 439 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: is why we have a deficit every single year. And 440 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: the hospitals and doctors said, well, we'll go out of 441 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: business in about ten minutes. And so the government says, well, 442 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: what you do is you gouge the crap out of 443 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: anybody with private insurance. They're gonna pay five times what 444 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: a Medicaid patient pays for the same procedure, but they 445 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: won't really notice it because it's all baked into their 446 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: insurance from their employer or whatever. So Congress gets away 447 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: with that, you guys are gonna make money and we're 448 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: just gonna soak the crap out of people with private insurance. 449 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: And so the insurance companies say, well, we're paying for 450 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: a lot of that, so we've to see if we 451 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: could limit these costs. Sometimes they do it in a 452 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: way that's awful and unfair. Sometimes not, And again I'm 453 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: not going to go down that road because I'm not 454 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: an expert in it. 455 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: But the fact that practically nobody. 456 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: Knows of this unholy, dishonest relationship between the government and 457 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the assurance companies frustrates me. So you're okay to have people, 458 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: innocent men gummed down in the streets, but you have 459 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: no idea how the system works. 460 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: Well. 461 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: The other aspect is, I assume that most of these 462 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: people that have very strong opinions pro of this guy 463 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: being assassinated, they should all be scared. I've seen that 464 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: sort of thing. Ye, are that lunatic? 465 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Lorenz actually putting the name and birth date of 466 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: the head of Blue Cross I think it was or 467 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: something like that, and her whenever she was born nineteen 468 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: seventy one dash and then it was left blank. Is 469 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: if yeah, let's figure let's fill that out. Taylor freaking 470 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: Lorens is a monster anyway, thank you, and was a 471 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: columnist for the Washington Post and the New Times. Yeah, 472 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: which gives you a Nightgaad is a great progressive mind. 473 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: But I assume that crowd their answer would be government healthcare. 474 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: You actually believe now the cost will be lower, at 475 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: least it will seem lower because it'll all be in taxes. 476 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: But do you if you actually believe you're not going 477 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: to be denied when the government is running healthcare or delay, 478 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: you think they're going to be responsive and have great 479 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: customer service and be looking out for you. 480 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: I spend a little time reading about NIH in Great 481 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: Britain or Canada or any place on the way those 482 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 4: healthcare systems work, you get denied all the time. Well, 483 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 4: the DMV becomes your How do you like it when 484 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: you go to the DMV and they tell you got 485 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: the wrong form? Come back tomorrow with the different form. 486 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: That's what all healthcare will be like. You're not going 487 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: to be happier. 488 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: That's nice or it's well right, or again read about 489 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: the various you know, federal health plans in other countries 490 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: where there are only a certain number of cancer doctors. 491 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: So it's going to be eighteen months so you can 492 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: see a cancer doctor. 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A lot of those are just dumb, completely 525 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: made up by calendars or websites some of the governments. 526 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: Some of them are actual government wins. And then this 527 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: one is this was This is a post from HHS yesterday. Wow, 528 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: HHS dot gov, you paid for everything that went into this. 529 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: It's probably ridiculous how much money was involved in this? 530 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 531 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: This was their post today on pan Sexual and panor 532 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: Romantic Pride Day. Uh what percentage of people could tell 533 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 4: you what the hell that was? Or have ever heard 534 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: that word before in their lives? That'd be a good question. 535 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: Any Americans have ever heard that word ever in their 536 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: lives before reading this government tweet? 537 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: Panda? 538 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: Oh well of course, yeah, But what do we gotta tree? 539 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Is there carols just saying a gift? So what is 540 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: there our parade? How do we celebrate. 541 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: Today on pan sexual and pan romantic Pride Day. Everyone 542 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: deserves to feel seen, respected and supported, no matter who 543 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: they love. Create a world where everyone feels proud to 544 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: be themselves. And then a rainbow and a big something 545 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: or other. 546 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 547 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: The government does not need to be involved in this 548 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: at all. The government shouldn't have had There shouldn't have 549 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: been a vote to declare this that there shouldn't be. 550 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: There are probably people who make their living dealing with 551 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: the messaging around this or the role of the government. 552 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: The government should not be involved in this crap at all, 553 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: at any level, not one taxpayer dollar. 554 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 5: Correct me if I'm wrong. 555 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Is that Rachel Levine character, the former dude in chargehas 556 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: no xavir bessera. She's under secretary of something, right, what 557 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: does she do? It doesn't matter. Yeah, the whole transgender 558 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: madness things. Stop it with your pan sexual whatever. I 559 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: don't care, get with dudes, get with women, whatever. Just 560 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: quit sexualizing the little kids in school. 561 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: Well I actually got that. 562 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: I think might have been from elon or Vivik's website. 563 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: It was just another Why is the government involved in this? 564 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: The government? We need to shrink the government. 565 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, if the government is big enough that you got 566 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: time for that. The government's too big. 567 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: Good lord, no kidding. Yeah, that's a good point too. Oh, 568 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: speaking of that sort of thing. Clip number eighty two, Michael, 569 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: this is the good folks that gaze against groomers who 570 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: are quite appropriately saying, hey, gay rights has got nothing 571 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: to do with trying to convince little kids that they're 572 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: the wrong sex, That we're not them, they're not us. 573 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: It's LGB. You get to the Q and the T. 574 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: You got weirdness going on. Good for you people standing 575 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: up and staying it. Go ahead, Michael, And. 576 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: What age do you think most trans kids determine that 577 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: they're trans? 578 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: Told us when she was one and a half. 579 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: She's been telling us since she could speak, so she 580 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: knew since birth. Not freaking chance that that's true, not 581 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: even the slightest chance that that is true. 582 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: I love the bit of wisdom. Uh yeah, a trans 583 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: kids like a vegan dog. We know who made that choice. 584 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: As a one year old. 585 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: Your kid, who has no concept whatsoever of generosexuality, has been, 586 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: you know, making it clear. Give me a break. Merriam 587 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: Webster's Dictionary is out with their Word of the Year. 588 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 5: Among other things. On the way. 589 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Armstrong Hetty. 590 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 7: You can see these little girls here as well. Lava 591 00:31:49,920 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 7: been winko, okay, shut up into. 592 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 5: They said, they're very happy has fallen. 593 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: That's Claris's Award of CNN. And she was in this 594 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 4: traffic jam near the border is Syria, and everybody was 595 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: so happy, like a level of happy most of us 596 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: will never understand, because we haven't had family members disappear 597 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: or tortured by the government and then the government has fallen. 598 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 4: But those little girls were just thrilled. I also thought, 599 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: you speak whatever language that is they speak, that's interesting. 600 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: How'd you learn that Clarissa Award is amazing? She knows 601 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: no fear for one thing, or doesn't show it. Secondly, 602 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: I just hope those little girls aren't don't have their 603 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: lives ruined by islamis nut. 604 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Jobs or take over. We'll talk to the terrific Mike 605 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: Lyons about that next hour. I hope you can stick around. 606 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: If not, subscribe to the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 607 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: A couple of quick things. Webster's Dictionaries out with their 608 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: word of the year. They went withation. Okay, fantastic. Oh, 609 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: I got nothing to say about that. I thought this 610 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: was an interesting article in uh Politico about how Biden 611 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: is Trump is already the president in many people's eyes, 612 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: including Democrats in Washington, d c. 613 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: More on that Street st had a piece on that too. Yeah, 614 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: it's notable, Oh, i'd say, but I don't know. 615 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: If you saw Trump yesterday in France, he was at 616 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: Notre Dame for the reopening their first mass since they 617 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: rebuilt it and everything like that. It absolutely looks fantastic. 618 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 4: I really want to see that in person. They scrubbed 619 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: that church. You know, it's not been cleaned nine hundred years. 620 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: So these pillars, like if you've been to Notre Dame, 621 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: I know a lot of you have. I haven't, but 622 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: those pillars that were like gray were actually gold and 623 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: painted with beautiful paintings on them all these years, and 624 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: nobody knew it. So or if you didn't know it, 625 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: you didn't see it. I mean, so they scrubbed the 626 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: whole bang church. The whole thing leams and looks like 627 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: it probably did to people centuries ago. And if you 628 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: saw the sixty minutes piece a couple of weeks ago. 629 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 4: They brought in all these artisans around the country, woodworkers, 630 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: glass workers, masons that you get to work at the 631 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: county fair and show off their crafts. Usually got to 632 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 4: go into Notre Dame and actually do the old time 633 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: he work to do it just the way it was 634 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: done throughout the centuries and bring it back to life. 635 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 5: So it looks really cool. 636 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: But anyway, Trump is there and all the world leaders 637 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 4: are treating him like he's the President of the United States, 638 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 4: not like he's hitler, including Joe Biden sitting there and 639 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: talking to him and smiling, and that got a lot 640 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: of attention. Of course, Joe Biden one seat away, and 641 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 4: they look to be getting along really well. And then 642 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: Trump puts out an ad on his truth social about 643 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 4: his cologne which is called his Colonne, which is called 644 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: Fight Fight Fight, and it said something like, look, my 645 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: colonne even attracts Jill Biden or something. 646 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 5: Wow, what a Trump thing to do. Just hilarious. 647 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: I just I can't get past the hole. He's literally 648 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: a hitler. Oh he won, So how you doing? Don't 649 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: come over for tea right? 650 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: No kidding, no kidding, There'll never be another election again 651 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 4: if he wins. A. Hey, I'll sit here and laugh 652 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: and joke with you as we're waiting for the match 653 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: to start. But so he meets with McCrone, the leader 654 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: of France, and everything like that. Afterwards, Trump says in 655 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 4: an interview he said he's a good man. He did 656 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: a good job with the church. I told him, you 657 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: have no idea what a good job you did on 658 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 4: that chapel. That's very hard to do, painstaking. It's such 659 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: a Trump thing to say. I love Trumpet. 660 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame named after the late great Virgin Mary. 661 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 5: Many people are saying, not a virgin. I don't know, 662 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 5: not my type. 663 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: A late great Virgin Mary. I'm saying to McCrone, Uh, 664 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: A lot of you have no idea. 665 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 5: Yeah I do. I have a good I spent years 666 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 5: at this. Thanks though, I guess that's it's compliment. Sure, 667 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 5: a Trumpian compliment is so hilarious. 668 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh, we ought to talk about that AI video I 669 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: sent to the team of Trump and doctor Jill looking 670 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: at each other then getting into a fist fight, generated 671 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: on by AI and totally realistic. 672 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 5: Looked regardlessly real. 673 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna talk to Mike Leins about Syria and US 674 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: involvement in our three Armstrong and Getty