Speaker 1: What up?
Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi, Hi, Hi. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 3: We're doing okay, thanks, Yeah, we're doing all right.
Speaker 2: Sending my love to all of you. You've been in
Speaker 2: my thoughts.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: So Danielle you have a home office that you always
Speaker 4: recorded that because everybody should know that. Danielle has her
Speaker 4: own podcast called Talk Scary to me.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you were so fucking hysterical on.
Speaker 3: By the way, thank you. I was on one.
Speaker 2: Your son made it great him being there for us
Speaker 2: to talk. Naughty was like, yeah, did you guys ever
Speaker 2: see the episode when Holly when Holly came on my
Speaker 2: show live? I think we were in were in Orlando?
Speaker 3: Where were we?
Speaker 4: I think it was Mega con Or? No, No, no,
Speaker 4: it was uh.
Speaker 3: SPC CAMPI I had no idea this happened. Really, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, I'm going to be listening. No, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be listening to this immediately.
Speaker 2: Oh it was so good.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Finley was in the audience, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: stuff happened.
Speaker 2: He was like, I do not And she said something
Speaker 2: like do you know how many sticky socks I found
Speaker 2: on your floor? That was yeah.
Speaker 4: Way.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna just leave now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he walked out of the auditorium. He was he
Speaker 4: literally left the building.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was a real high point for him,
Speaker 3: just his mom talking about his sticky socks.
Speaker 4: Literally stiff, they were stiff, and but literally as he
Speaker 4: walked out of the auditorium, I see like he follows
Speaker 4: Danielle and Scout immediately on Instagram, and I was like, oh, really,
Speaker 4: really I know that cue Oh yeah you did, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 4: Just when I say, hey, it's you know, the kids
Speaker 4: grow up and they're just fine.
Speaker 3: It's they're normal. But maybe let's not use the term
Speaker 3: sticky socks ever again.
Speaker 4: I still have two teenagers in the house, so I
Speaker 4: collecting sticky socks all over the place. And actually Finley
Speaker 4: is around here somewhere lurking. See, I'm trying to work
Speaker 4: from home today. We're going to see how it's going
Speaker 4: to go for me because I've got too many dogs
Speaker 4: and too many kids here.
Speaker 2: So I have no animals and no children home.
Speaker 3: Oh see, you're so lucky.
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't say that. It was my inside.
Speaker 3: Voice, my god, speaking of Scout though.
Speaker 4: So Scout and Danielle are like the best of best friends,
Speaker 4: and you were her brid her made of honor at
Speaker 4: her wedding.
Speaker 2: Made of honor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, recently, and everybody should know Scout Taylor Thompson, who
Speaker 4: plays one of our fairies and a couple.
Speaker 2: Of how many how long ago? She was in the
Speaker 2: first season too?
Speaker 4: Yeah she was teeny tiny. I mean she was so
Speaker 4: young when she did the show. And actually we talk
Speaker 4: a lot thought about that and what her experience was
Speaker 4: on set in their podcast, which was really cool. But
Speaker 4: how old were you when you started acting?
Speaker 2: I was How old was I first jump to? Really?
Speaker 1: Like eight?
Speaker 2: Eight or nine?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: At nine, I was already on a soap opera New York.
Speaker 2: So I started like commercials and you know, little little
Speaker 2: things before then, right I did?
Speaker 4: I did as well. I just found in like a
Speaker 4: box like this Energizer battery preant ad that I did.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, shut up, you know what I just found.
Speaker 2: That's fucking weird. I just found a tide ad that
Speaker 2: I had done of me jumping rope tie. It was
Speaker 2: a magazine I like, like you used to get them
Speaker 2: in like the I guess the Sunday Papers, right, they.
Speaker 3: Still do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like they were like coupons. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So I actually I still don't know this story. So
Speaker 4: did you and Scout meet on Halloween?
Speaker 2: We met on Halloween. She was having a hard time
Speaker 2: getting the job because nobody wanted her but Rob basically,
Speaker 2: and you know, they wanted to go with I think
Speaker 2: Britney Snow or somebody, somebody that just wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: the same kind of vibe. And Rob was like, nope, nope, nope,
Speaker 2: I want her. But she had to screen test a
Speaker 2: couple times and then it was like yes, no, yes, no.
Speaker 2: So we met there. But she was seventeen turning and yeah,
Speaker 2: seventy each turned eighteen on set, and I was thirty
Speaker 2: thirty or thirty one. So we were playing best friends.
Speaker 2: But there was still that pretty big age gap between us,
Speaker 2: and there still is now. It's just gotten closer as
Speaker 2: she's gotten older. So we weren't really friends. We were
Speaker 2: cool with each other and like, hey, girl, what's up,
Speaker 2: what's up? You know, hugs, kisses, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Are you good, how's your life, what's happening? You know,
Speaker 2: Doggie's good? Okay, cool? We didn't become friends until COVID
Speaker 2: really where I just invited her over to my house
Speaker 2: because I was trying to do you know, stuff online,
Speaker 2: trying to make the time go by and create content,
Speaker 2: and I'm not very good at a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So so she came over and uh, we just had
Speaker 2: a good rapport with one another, and we started chatting
Speaker 2: and we were watching Halloween together. And my idea was
Speaker 2: to watch actors like kind of like watch alongs, like
Speaker 2: what you guys are doing essentially, but I was doing
Speaker 2: it with my friends that I had never seen their
Speaker 2: movies before. So you know, I know Kane hadd he's
Speaker 2: like my he was like my uncle in real life.
Speaker 2: But I've never seen his friend at the thirteenth movies,
Speaker 2: so you know, we're in them, We're not really watch
Speaker 2: them that much. So I would have them over to
Speaker 2: my house and we'd watch the movie together. And we
Speaker 2: just happened to I have Scout come over and we
Speaker 2: watched the Halloween movie together and we were like, whoa,
Speaker 2: there's a different kind of energy here. And my husband's like,
Speaker 2: you should do a podcast. We're like, what's a podcast?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What do we have to do oh,
Speaker 2: I don't have to get dressed and go out anywhere. Amazing.
Speaker 2: So we just started doing it, and we wanted to
Speaker 2: do like non horror movie stuff because we were getting
Speaker 2: asked the same shit over and over again as you
Speaker 2: guys do, and we just thought, there's got to be
Speaker 2: more to this than than what we're doing. So we
Speaker 2: just made it about sex and love and and things
Speaker 2: that are scary to talk about essentially, but within our
Speaker 2: community of people that you know, there's some interesting folks
Speaker 2: that may need a little push in the right direction
Speaker 2: and love department here and there in our in our
Speaker 2: little world. So if space where they could they could
Speaker 2: feel comfortable and also get to know a part of
Speaker 2: us that wasn't the same stuff they've been you know,
Speaker 2: that's been talked about for years.
Speaker 4: I had no idea there was such a big age
Speaker 4: gap between you two, Like you both seem like the
Speaker 4: same age by the way.
Speaker 2: I love that, you know, and She's like, I mean
Speaker 2: I could definitely. It feels like I'm her mom slash
Speaker 2: older sister, Like I'm kind of a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I think as some super protective over her. I was
Speaker 2: telling her the other day that she's not going to
Speaker 2: my therapist that I was I had gone to for
Speaker 2: fifteen years twice a week, and I started with her
Speaker 2: when I was in my early thirties and she just
Speaker 2: changed my world and saved my life. And so I
Speaker 2: had Scout go to her, and now she goes to
Speaker 2: her every week as well, and I'm seeing the changes
Speaker 2: in her that I saw in myself in the beginning
Speaker 2: of therapy. But it's almost at like an accelerated pace
Speaker 2: because my therapist back then had never had a child actor,
Speaker 2: you know, patient before, so I sort of was she
Speaker 2: was learning along with me, and then now she, you know,
Speaker 2: has fifteen years of experience working with me, so she
Speaker 2: gets to use that on Scout. So Scouts and like
Speaker 2: the accelerated program, so she's she's getting all the good
Speaker 2: stuff at a much faster rate. And it's cool to
Speaker 2: like sit back and watch her become something that I
Speaker 2: know she could be but just needed a little, you know,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a push.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that, and it just reminds me, you know,
Speaker 4: as you know, my world was turned upside down in
Speaker 4: the last two months. But Scout called me and she
Speaker 4: was directing her movie and she called me and wanted
Speaker 4: me to play a therapist in it, and I just
Speaker 4: couldn't get myself together in time to do it, and
Speaker 4: I just I'm kicking myself still.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll find work for you, Holly, do sure worry,
Speaker 2: we will find it. We are doing so many things together.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where like we're you know,
Speaker 2: we're about to direct and start a movie together that
Speaker 2: we that was Scout's idea. So we've been working on
Speaker 2: and we're going to shoot it in November, and it's
Speaker 2: that like, oh God, who, what friend do you want
Speaker 2: to make that call to say I love you? It's
Speaker 2: only scale. I promise you'll have so much fun. And
Speaker 2: you know, we get those calls and we're like, ah, fuck, okay, fine, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll do it. We'll do it. But so we're doing
Speaker 2: three movies back to back. Ideally we're going to start
Speaker 2: our first one in November. So we're going down our
Speaker 2: list of all of our friends that we could call
Speaker 2: in favors for to play opposite us, and oh, you
Speaker 2: will be on there. I'm sure all of you will be.
Speaker 4: I will make it up to both of you.
Speaker 3: I swear that's amazing by the way that you guys
Speaker 3: are doing that. What's the first one? Like, what's the plot,
Speaker 3: what's the if?
Speaker 2: It is basically like a Hills Have Eyes. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's her and I are getting married
Speaker 2: to each other in it, and it's uh, we were
Speaker 2: taking a road trip to Vegas essentially to this like
Speaker 2: taj Mahal of Nevada to get married. This horrible it's
Speaker 2: actually a space in La called the Pink Motel. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you guys are probably filmed there at some point
Speaker 2: or another. So we go there and of course, you know,
Speaker 2: we get trapped in the compound with the freaky, fucking
Speaker 2: weird people and and all hell breaks loose and there's
Speaker 2: a crazy twist at the end of it. So I mean,
Speaker 2: it'd be fun. We were going to find a director,
Speaker 2: and then we were like, we can just like, we
Speaker 2: can just do this together. We don't really need someone
Speaker 2: to direct us. We just need a really good producer,
Speaker 2: really good first at the monitor that tells us that
Speaker 2: we got what we needed if we're in the scenes together,
Speaker 2: and if we're not, then and you know we are,
Speaker 2: one of us is behind the camera, so we feel
Speaker 2: like we can we can just do it. I mean
Speaker 2: teeny tiny, like you know, three hundred thousand dollars budget,
Speaker 2: you know nine days. Shoot, we're just gonna the best.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it ourselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what you should be doing. And it's
Speaker 3: it's what you said, you nailed it. It's really important
Speaker 3: to Like, when I've been directing and I put myself
Speaker 3: in it, you have to have someone behind the monitor
Speaker 3: that you trust that you can just look up and
Speaker 3: we got it, or like just go again. And once
Speaker 3: you have that, it can gives you the freedom and
Speaker 3: you realize very quickly that you are capable of doing
Speaker 3: being both in front and behind the camera.
Speaker 2: And I love prep and I love post. I can't
Speaker 2: function during production to like I need to remember my lines,
Speaker 2: Like I need to show up and just sort of
Speaker 2: do my thing and I can sort of watch what's
Speaker 2: going on, but I can't put out fires and I
Speaker 2: can't handle that kind of stuff. I can't make those
Speaker 2: decisions when I'm when I need to focus on in
Speaker 2: the moment where I love, like put me in the
Speaker 2: editing room all day, put me in to do the score.
Speaker 2: I'm down to fucking color correct like I love that stuff.
Speaker 2: Pre production, I want to do all the wardrobe Like,
Speaker 2: I've got all the design sheets, We've done it, We've
Speaker 2: done everything. Scout just loves to be like in the
Speaker 2: director seat on set, so you know, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's cool. I think cause I have maybe
Speaker 2: because I have kids now, it's like I don't really
Speaker 2: have the brain capacity or space to like hold all
Speaker 2: of that stuff. So we make a good team working together,
Speaker 2: and it could be you know, and we've been working
Speaker 2: together on the podcast now for three years, so and
Speaker 2: I've we've only gotten closer, you know, being her maid
Speaker 2: of honor. Went from like barely talking to being her
Speaker 2: maid of honor in a very short period of time.
Speaker 2: So so I think we've got each other's back and
Speaker 2: we'll see, hopefully we'll still be friends afterwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually very much like Shannon and I's dynamic was,
Speaker 4: is that she wanted to be in the director's seat.
Speaker 4: She wanted to be in the hot seat and answering
Speaker 4: all the questions, whereas I wanted to do all the
Speaker 4: behind the scenes stuff. And I was that other person
Speaker 4: that could say, no, you're good, you got it. And
Speaker 4: it's really cool to see you guys do this for
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: You know, it's I feel like there are some being
Speaker 2: a kid actor and also just being an actress in general.
Speaker 2: You know, there's so much competition and weird things people
Speaker 2: have with one another, and I feel like it's really
Speaker 2: rare that you find your competition essentially, like who you
Speaker 2: would go up against all the time, and who you
Speaker 2: would need to need to beat out in order to
Speaker 2: feed you know, your family or yourself or whatever, and
Speaker 2: to combine powers together and and not. You know, like
Speaker 2: when Scout gets a job, I'm sincerely and genuinely so
Speaker 2: fucking happy for her, Like all I want is nothing
Speaker 2: but success, and I don't feel like that's a very
Speaker 2: common thing with people that are competitive in business. So
Speaker 2: I definitely see the similarities. And you know, seeing all
Speaker 2: your pictures and I've got so many, and I had,
Speaker 2: you know, other actress friends that I've grown up with
Speaker 2: that were also considered, you know, competition against me. That
Speaker 2: also I've got along for the ride and support it
Speaker 2: and tried to make things happen together. And it doesn't
Speaker 2: happen very easily, and it doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 3: But that's the kind of energy that this we should
Speaker 3: be fostering and nurturing more as opposed to being pitted
Speaker 3: against each other. Yeah, you know, because I think so
Speaker 3: much like this industry is so brutal, and it's so tough,
Speaker 3: and you can never you can the ebbs and flows
Speaker 3: and the highs and lows are it's so drastic.
Speaker 2: You can just accomplish so much more together. It takes
Speaker 2: so much core work to go against one another. I
Speaker 2: say tell that to my kids all the time, Like, you, guys,
Speaker 2: your life would be so much easier if you just
Speaker 2: worked together instead of against each other. Even in like
Speaker 2: Fortnite or whatever shit they're playing in there, it's like
Speaker 2: you're on the same fucking team, Like why are you
Speaker 2: screaming through the walls at each other? And why are
Speaker 2: you smirking? And you're killing him like that's your brother.
Speaker 2: And then it's like, well with that kid, you know
Speaker 2: booted him off, why don't you kick that. It's like this,
Speaker 2: I don't understand. It makes me crazy, Like you could
Speaker 2: take over the world and you're going to need each
Speaker 2: other one day, so stop, Like from you know, my
Speaker 2: kids are only eighteen months apart, so it's that I
Speaker 2: don't know how far apart your boys are, but I
Speaker 2: know they're going to be best friends. Two and a
Speaker 2: half years, they're going to be best friends or you know,
Speaker 2: or Drew, do you have any siblings?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: We were.
Speaker 3: The problem with that is we were a guy older,
Speaker 3: she's four years younger, So like, there's not a lot
Speaker 3: of you have in common if you're a sixteen year
Speaker 3: old guy and a twelve year old girl. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just doesn't like And so every time I moved to
Speaker 3: a school, she was entering that school that I had
Speaker 3: just left, and so we didn't have that kind of
Speaker 3: interaction of like that closeness. I think four years is
Speaker 3: just a little bit too. I mean, I love her
Speaker 3: and we get along great, but it's not like I
Speaker 3: have that insane beautiful dynamic Like we didn't do anything,
Speaker 3: have any similarities or like interests, like we just there
Speaker 3: was not a relatable kind of time or wretch.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, people keep telling me it gets easier, and mine
Speaker 4: are now fifteen, seventeen and twenty and literally I had
Speaker 4: to have this very passionate discussion with them last night
Speaker 4: of not fighting and not fucking fighting and not.
Speaker 2: Fighting Still still do?
Speaker 3: They keep telling me they do.
Speaker 4: Occasionally it'll like I'll see when it's about to get
Speaker 4: to that point, and that's that's when I step in,
Speaker 4: which yep, that happened last night. So here we are.
Speaker 2: What could they fight over? I mean, they just bicker.
Speaker 3: They bicker like old ben roommates. Like it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 4: They just bicker, and they bicker in the car, and
Speaker 4: they bicker at home, and they bicker at dinner like
Speaker 4: they just it's the Bickersons all the time.
Speaker 3: Do they swap socks?
Speaker 4: God? I hope not.
Speaker 2: Oh god. So my kid is asking me a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff though that I feel like he's two. He's seven.
Speaker 2: So my older one, my younger one, is not asking
Speaker 2: any of that stuff yet, but he is looking at
Speaker 2: like nude sort of busty girls on the internet. So
Speaker 2: I had to go into his like parental controls and
Speaker 2: YouTube and change it to like make sure that horrible
Speaker 2: things weren't happening on his little account.
Speaker 3: Seven.
Speaker 2: That's my five year old. My seven year old is
Speaker 2: watching it and I don't know what he's watching because
Speaker 2: he's wearing headphones because he's super smart. But he's the
Speaker 2: one asking me, like, mom, what is it when when
Speaker 2: it's a girl's time of the month.
Speaker 4: Oh dear, They're just exposed to so.
Speaker 2: Much more, too much right, Like it's I feel like
Speaker 2: it's like I didn't ask that stuff, or you know
Speaker 2: that I'm in a relationship where I broke she broke
Speaker 2: up with me, or mom, I know what sex is?
Speaker 2: You know, like stuff that's like wait a second, is
Speaker 2: this YouTube or is this kids or camp? Or like
Speaker 2: I don't remember being seven being like this.
Speaker 4: Now they learned to turn off those parental controls as well.
Speaker 4: They totally figure it out. So you have to do
Speaker 4: it like periodically over and over again, which reminds me
Speaker 4: I have to check my seventeen year olds because I'm
Speaker 4: still gonna check it. He's under eighteen, I'm still going
Speaker 4: to change it back watch me, I'd be like, thirteen, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the fuck they're watching. And
Speaker 2: then my older ones let my younger ones like, oh mommy,
Speaker 2: someone gave me. Oh my sorry. It was my older
Speaker 2: one that said, oh, I have to check them. Let
Speaker 2: me know when you go check the mail, I've got
Speaker 2: to check the mail. And I was like, what are
Speaker 2: you checking the mail for? What are You're not getting
Speaker 2: anything of the house? What are you checking the mail
Speaker 2: for He's like, oh, my friend on fortnite said he's
Speaker 2: going to send me something. I said, how does he know?
Speaker 2: How does he know where you live? He's like I
Speaker 2: told him, I'm like, okay, okay, okay, and god he
Speaker 2: doesn't really know, you know. But it's like wait, wait,
Speaker 2: so yeah, but I don't want to be that mom.
Speaker 2: But I want to be that mom.
Speaker 3: But now I understand why people leave, like and kind
Speaker 3: of move to an island or move out of like
Speaker 3: a big city. I had a bunch of friends who
Speaker 3: left New York proper and moved up like upstate, up
Speaker 3: the Hudson to kind of try to contain it will
Speaker 3: still find you everywhere you go. Like just that's the
Speaker 3: nature of the world and where we're at right now
Speaker 3: on Internet and just the access, the instant access to
Speaker 3: anything and everything you can imagine. But like to kind
Speaker 3: of slow down life just enough to like try to
Speaker 3: preserve just enough innocence and keep them sheltered. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's the right word, but just away from
Speaker 3: all the things that are just going to be waiting
Speaker 3: and knocking down the door. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's better, though. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: like I grew up as one of those kids where
Speaker 2: all the kids came to my house. You know, we
Speaker 2: were fourteen, drinking and playing pool and we had everything.
Speaker 2: My mom was like, if you're gonna you're gonna do it,
Speaker 2: so bring them out of here. And you know, a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of actor kids would roll out with their
Speaker 2: zemas and you know, packed into cars and we would
Speaker 2: just play pool and video games and like smoke Marlboro
Speaker 2: lights and like you know, talk shit, and nobody talked
Speaker 2: about what they were fucking working on. Nobody was looking
Speaker 2: at their phones, even though you know, we had a
Speaker 2: little teeny I had a little red Nokia remember those
Speaker 2: that you could like text with one hand. It was
Speaker 2: like ABCD FGHI, and it was that little thing we
Speaker 2: could all do with our eyes clubs while we were
Speaker 2: driving drunk with one eye over Laurel Canyon at two
Speaker 2: twenty in the morning, where we fucking totally shouldn't have
Speaker 2: and don't know where we're parked the next morning when
Speaker 2: we woke up. But you know, like stop talking about
Speaker 2: life prop our lives, right, I mean, we've all been there,
Speaker 2: so I don't know where that tangent came from.
Speaker 3: But are you from La?
Speaker 2: I'm from New York, but I was. I moved to
Speaker 2: LA when I was thirteen, so I lived there until
Speaker 2: two years ago. So I'm a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: But I I went to New York last week. There's
Speaker 2: a movie of mine that actually came out today called
Speaker 2: Stream and it's done by the same guys that do
Speaker 2: the Terrifier series. Pretty Much everybody's in at Dee Wallas
Speaker 2: and I love her. She's the sweetest. She's the sweetest.
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, like every you know horror person
Speaker 2: that you've probably worked with or know it from, you
Speaker 2: know shows is in the movie. So we're going to
Speaker 2: get a nice week theatrical release and hopefully hopefully it
Speaker 2: does very very well. So yees originally from New York
Speaker 2: and then LA and now now Texas.
Speaker 3: How is Texas?
Speaker 2: It is fucking hot.
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 2: It's hot in La. You guys don't have humidity though,
Speaker 2: Are you Austin based? I'm Austin right It's bad.
Speaker 4: There was like a there was like a heat warning
Speaker 4: last night till nine pm, nine pm.
Speaker 2: Wait where are you, Holly?
Speaker 4: I have a house in Texas outside of Austin in
Speaker 4: between Austin and San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Yeah, it's it's gnarly. It's gnarlely here.
Speaker 2: But it just became summer like hot. It just became
Speaker 2: that over one hundred degree heat.
Speaker 4: Yep, just getting hotter.
Speaker 2: We're like old people talking about the weather.
Speaker 3: Totally are you doing? It's the humidity, they say, it's
Speaker 3: going to be hot all week? The humidity.
Speaker 4: God, it's the heat.
Speaker 2: How many episodes have you guys done so far?
Speaker 3: This was let's call it eight? Ah.
Speaker 2: I thought, what I feel like you guys were doing
Speaker 2: more or you were you were not well every week.
Speaker 3: Well, what happened was.
Speaker 4: Shannon joined us and so we started again from the
Speaker 4: beginning and she was able to do five of them.
Speaker 4: So well.
Speaker 3: Rewatching it, by the way, this morning, you were phenomenal
Speaker 3: and I think I told you that last time, but
Speaker 3: doubling down, you're so good and like you played immediately,
Speaker 3: like you fell in line immediately with the girls, and
Speaker 3: you're dynamic with them and kind of acting as like
Speaker 3: a foil. And the way you kind of manipulated Phoebe
Speaker 3: Ilyssa's character in the show, it was it was such
Speaker 3: a joy to watch you work and like, I just
Speaker 3: thought you were you were awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I I uh, you know, it's scary
Speaker 2: coming onto a show like that because it was so
Speaker 2: I mean even then, I remember auditioning for it, and
Speaker 2: I think it was was this the fourth or fifth
Speaker 2: episode and you guys had just like maybe had two
Speaker 2: air or one air and you had had blown up already.
Speaker 2: Was like everybody was talking about it. So going into
Speaker 2: the audition, I was like, oh, please, please, please. But
Speaker 2: I was working on a movie at the time that
Speaker 2: I was doing night shoots for, so but I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. I'll fucking I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I'll go and I can work two jobs and I'll
Speaker 2: go during the day and then I'll go at night
Speaker 2: and thinking, not thinking, and I ended up getting the
Speaker 2: job and then got to set and I went I
Speaker 2: think I was telling you guys this last time I
Speaker 2: went to for my makeup and wardrobe fitting and makeup
Speaker 2: and hair tests, and I was like, oh, makeup and
Speaker 2: hair test. That's weird. Never had to do that before.
Speaker 2: And went into the trailer and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to dye your hair. I was like,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to dye my hair, Like we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to dye your hair red. We're gonna do it,
Speaker 2: you know, fiery red. I was like, I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of working on a movie, Like
Speaker 2: I can't just dye my hair. And then they wanted to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, put some kind of rinse out thing in.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you don't understand, Like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm going like from here like tomorrow, like I wrap
Speaker 2: at six, I'm gonna go at seven to a movie
Speaker 2: that I've already started and I'm in the middle of shooting.
Speaker 2: So they ended up slicking my hair back. It was
Speaker 2: really short at the time. But I came on and
Speaker 2: they were like, you guys, you all look too much
Speaker 2: alike you just you can't look like them.
Speaker 4: And you would think that would be a good thing,
Speaker 4: but it was such a spelling thing to have somebody
Speaker 4: distinctly different from the other that it was. It was
Speaker 4: a silly protocol.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: And when then when I saw the script name, because
Speaker 2: of course I just had the size. I don't think
Speaker 2: I even had the script yet until like the day
Speaker 2: before or so, and the title of the episode is
Speaker 2: the fourth sister m So I was like, it was
Speaker 2: perfect the way that it was totally you know, we're
Speaker 2: like five three ish bunch of brunettes, like you know,
Speaker 2: nice ladies and good skin at the time, so I
Speaker 2: was like, this is perfect. And uh yeah, so we
Speaker 2: we slicked my hair bag, which worked because she was
Speaker 2: sort of a goth you know, goth kind of character.
Speaker 2: Uh that was really popular during that time. And uh
Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was really fun. But I will
Speaker 2: never ever do that ever again. I will never work
Speaker 2: two jobs.
Speaker 3: No, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean I had, like I think I rewatched episode.
Speaker 2: I saw some of it on TV not too long ago,
Speaker 2: but I didn't get see the whole thing, and I
Speaker 2: had forgotten how many scenes I had. It was a
Speaker 2: lot as a guest star, like I had a lot.
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was working more than you guys were,
Speaker 2: and then maybe because I was just tired.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I can't let this go. It's five three ish
Speaker 3: code for five to one five five. A bunch of
Speaker 3: five three ish girls running around. That's just so everyone
Speaker 3: knows that they're all five feet tall.
Speaker 2: They are all taller than me.
Speaker 3: So in fact, I'm watching they're all wearing foods platforms.
Speaker 2: I stand up in my five in platforms and people
Speaker 2: still go, oh my god, you're so small. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: if you if I I even took my shoes off,
Speaker 2: you would be like, oh my god, do I seem
Speaker 2: small in person? I don't feel like when I'm around
Speaker 2: you don't seem small either.
Speaker 3: Because you guys are the same height. So it's like
Speaker 3: he's like looking into a mirror, going, we're giants. Well,
Speaker 3: of course you guys are giants, because you're just looking
Speaker 3: at each other.
Speaker 1: I get a lot of people that come up to
Speaker 1: me and think, oh my gosh, I thought you were
Speaker 1: so much taller. Oh get because I've been around the
Speaker 1: girls so much and I look, you know, They're like, wow,
Speaker 1: we thought you were so much bigger.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, they're they're sure.
Speaker 2: I could never understand why someone's shocked at how small
Speaker 2: I am because all the people that I play against
Speaker 2: are like seven feet tall. So it's surprised that place.
Speaker 3: In the horror genre, right, like you know, having a
Speaker 3: bigger like shooting a like like Michael Myers from that viewpoint,
Speaker 3: looks like he's twelve feet too. Larger than life, scary,
Speaker 3: and then you it's like from a it just aesthetically
Speaker 3: it plays perfectly.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I've always worked in horror movies. Correct,
Speaker 2: I thought my size was against me all those years
Speaker 2: when I was a No.
Speaker 1: It's it's your ability to a vulnerability you showed, like
Speaker 1: even as in this character of you know, you're this
Speaker 1: tough girl and the whole attitude, and I get it
Speaker 1: that went with the zimas and the Marrol lights, but
Speaker 1: you know, the vulnerability you brought on the other side
Speaker 1: of that of why you know she was looking for
Speaker 1: a friend?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably through a lot of your characters
Speaker 1: being able to show, you know, I'm hard, but I'm
Speaker 1: also this. I wonder did they was there a possibility
Speaker 1: of coming back and being the fourth sister or was
Speaker 1: this always going to be a one off?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure I had hoped and dreamed
Speaker 2: after seeing the title, like, oh my god, this could
Speaker 2: turn into something, but no was never no never discussed before.
Speaker 2: But I never thought about that. Brian, that like, because
Speaker 2: I always play the same kind of roles. I've always
Speaker 2: anytime I would get a script and it was like
Speaker 2: a tough girl or what you know, a bad girl
Speaker 2: or whatever. I was always like, Oh, I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get it. So when
Speaker 2: I read this, I was like, I'm going to get this,
Speaker 2: and then I never really thought about it. But in
Speaker 2: real life, I'm sort of you know, I'm very sensitive
Speaker 2: and very you know, little girl inside, but there's still
Speaker 2: that Maybe it's the New Yorker thing too. It's a
Speaker 2: little bit of maybe a little bit of both or
Speaker 2: being kid actor having to like protect myself, you know,
Speaker 2: growing up in this business.
Speaker 1: I feel like that thing how you fit in so
Speaker 1: well with the other girls because you know, I know
Speaker 1: Holly has had, Shannon had that. I mean all the
Speaker 1: girls did, you know, they're it's kind of the same.
Speaker 1: You guys will step on our throats for not careful,
Speaker 1: so it's like okay, but but then you're vulnerable at
Speaker 1: the same time, and it's like I love you, So
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, there's something to be learned here, you know,
Speaker 1: tough exterior, let me take care of business, and yet
Speaker 1: I'm a real person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's appreciated for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's you know, like I was
Speaker 2: saying earlier, not even knowing what a podcast was a
Speaker 2: few years ago. I've gotten a chance to know a
Speaker 2: lot of people that I have known but didn't really
Speaker 2: know over the last couple of years, and being able
Speaker 2: to listen to everybody and getting getting to hear them,
Speaker 2: There's been a different kind of connection for me than
Speaker 2: seeing stuff that they post. I remember when Instagram first
Speaker 2: came out and I was like, this is stupid. Who's
Speaker 2: going to look at pictures all day? Like it's like
Speaker 2: a polaroid? Is that what this is supposed to be?
Speaker 2: You know? And then you're like, oh, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: this is turning into something else, and then turns into
Speaker 2: something else. So being able to see even you know,
Speaker 2: all of us, being able to hear and see and
Speaker 2: and create that is super cool to get to know everybody.
Speaker 2: So I guess maybe that's why I played all those
Speaker 2: tough girls all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh look dogs and kids.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe she was so funny on that episode.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I got to listen to that.
Speaker 2: I was scared to ask her because I was like,
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to come and do a live show?
Speaker 2: Oh at the convention, after you know, signing and being
Speaker 2: around people all day like Friday, you know, or it
Speaker 2: was think it was Saturday at like eight o'clock, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to ask her. So of course Scout
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to ask her, and then she
Speaker 2: was gonna do it. I was like, thank God, thank god,
Speaker 2: because you know, we go to the shows and we're
Speaker 2: doing the lot, we're doing what you're doing live there,
Speaker 2: we're selling tickets and we don't really know if we're
Speaker 2: going to just do it us or we're going to
Speaker 2: get to pull somebody on and uh and oh, here
Speaker 2: we go. He's gonna tell us.
Speaker 4: About everything's totally normal.
Speaker 2: Totally normal.
Speaker 3: What's buddy?
Speaker 2: We're seeing how we I might have traumatized you. Your
Speaker 2: mom might have traumatized you.
Speaker 3: That was not your fault, that was her fault.
Speaker 2: It's just oversharing about being jack hammered on the on
Speaker 2: the kitchen island, right.
Speaker 3: She actually said that, Huh Jesus jack hammered on the island.
Speaker 3: You know, none of us need to hear that.
Speaker 2: No, especially not me.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Is that a mustache? It's getting there?
Speaker 1: Broke.
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to uh? Are you allowed to be
Speaker 3: in the military? Are you allowed to have a mustache. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have to cut it here and here I keep it,
Speaker 3: keep absolue on. It's so bad, it's amazing. It's not No,
Speaker 3: it's great grow out.
Speaker 2: Does it grow on your gin? Just fluffy on the
Speaker 2: top or this is the style.
Speaker 4: It's just fluffier on the top.
Speaker 3: This is I never.
Speaker 1: Been.
Speaker 3: It's all soft. I got through mine.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 3: It looks fluffy, but it's coarse. I encourage this, damn.
Speaker 3: You can't know, dude me, and then come on and
Speaker 3: be rocking it like you're rocking. This is a choice,
Speaker 3: that is a serious choice that you have committed to
Speaker 3: and just own it. It's sick. I think you're more
Speaker 3: committed to it than I am. I don't even have
Speaker 3: one right now.
Speaker 4: You're committed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew. Can you grow facial hair all over? Does
Speaker 2: it fill in? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's crazy Like I shaved an hour ago, clean and
Speaker 3: already has like wow, some scruff gone?
Speaker 2: What about you? Brian?
Speaker 3: It takes it.
Speaker 1: This is about where it gets to and if I
Speaker 1: grow like I've let it go for a couple of
Speaker 1: months and you'll see like it only grows so I
Speaker 1: can't get this. It just like it goes in everywhere,
Speaker 1: but it's it's all gray and it doesn't get very long.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of this is the best effort.
Speaker 3: It's the stash. Oh, it's great, best foot forward and
Speaker 3: it's working.
Speaker 2: Is that like a family thing? Like with guys, how
Speaker 2: do you know like how your beard's going to come in?
Speaker 2: Because it's different for everybody. So what is that based on?
Speaker 2: Is that like a genetics thing?
Speaker 1: Is that my son has a beard to hear? Oh shit, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean like he's got it's like it's full.
Speaker 2: So it's not genetics.
Speaker 3: It's not me. I'm yeah, I'm kind of hairless.
Speaker 2: The mom's father because isn't that what they say like
Speaker 2: about like the missing your hair if your if the
Speaker 2: mom's father has hair, you'll be okay or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. My mom could put my mom's play
Speaker 2: making that up.
Speaker 3: It's an old wives tale because you can have two
Speaker 3: you can have two sons from the same parents and
Speaker 3: one son is bald and the other one has this
Speaker 3: like full head of hair hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hmm, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think like all your babies don't have your hairline. No,
Speaker 3: another two the other two are receding you, like yes.
Speaker 4: You just have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same parents, the other two are receding, and he's
Speaker 3: the oldest.
Speaker 2: Brothers you're the oldest.
Speaker 3: Oh that's really going to take so like that, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: When they're like thirty, it's wraps. Oh oh that's incredible.
Speaker 3: See it's a it's a it's a crapshoot. I did
Speaker 3: one of those twenty three and me's yes, me too,
Speaker 3: and they one of the things that came back was like,
Speaker 3: oh you because obviously they don't have a photo of you,
Speaker 3: or maybe they do, but they're like I had a
Speaker 3: fifty percent chance being bawled by like thirty two. Like ballow,
Speaker 3: it was a coin flip. Oh jeez, thank god.
Speaker 2: I found a first cousin on twenty three.
Speaker 3: Oh way yeah, the time to be alive.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I wonder how many marriages this
Speaker 2: is ruined. But I found a first cousin who ended
Speaker 2: up contacting me, and he was his mother. I was like,
Speaker 2: your mother or your father is my aunt or uncle?
Speaker 2: And I knew that it wasn't well, I didn't know
Speaker 2: whose side it was. One of my grandparents one of
Speaker 2: my grandpa's cheated apparently, so it was on my dad's side.
Speaker 2: But the mess up thing is everyone in my my
Speaker 2: dad's side, they've all passed. My dad, my uncle, my
Speaker 2: aunt are all gone. And then so I have this
Speaker 2: first cousin, which his mom essentially would be my aunt
Speaker 2: half right right, which would be the only relative that
Speaker 2: I have left on my dad's side of the family.
Speaker 2: And this cousin on twenty three and me doesn't talk
Speaker 2: to his mom anymore. They don't have a talking relationship,
Speaker 2: so he wouldn't get in touch with her for me.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh my god. And then of
Speaker 2: course I told him my name, and then he was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, I watch your movies. Oh my god, you're
Speaker 2: my like was freaked out that I was his cousin.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. He lives in Staten Island. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was weird. Twenty three that was insane.
Speaker 3: That is weird. Yeah, I'm scared to go on. Unfortunately
Speaker 3: we have to wrap this up. But you were the
Speaker 3: most lovely to talk to. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: coming back and chatting.
Speaker 2: Her clastomers sending you guys my love. Just know I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about you.
Speaker 3: Really appreciating. Best of luck with Tell everybody again where
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Speaker 2: Stream is out in theaters today for the week. Check
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Speaker 2: It's our podcast, where podcasts can be found.
Speaker 3: Fantastic, Thanks guy, and good luck on that film.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much