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The bench press going on in the background. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: If you hear some commotion, reminder our Combine coverage here 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: brought to you first National Bank member f d I C. 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: Let's get started, Matt. That was the fun first hour 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: of the show there. I mean you and I just 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, jeez. Now, maybe we have to 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: actually talk to each other for a few minutes here, Yeah, 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: sit back and actually have more guests. But possibly coming 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: on forty minutes from now, we'll have Laura Rutledge of 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: esp AND, which will be cool. You saw her last 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: night hosting a lot of that the Combine coverage on you. Yeah, 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: it was Bernard Raymond Raymond from Central Michigan doing bention 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: in the background. Yeah. We talked Tony about him a little. 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: He didn't seem super high on him. Mixed opinions, but 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to like there. He moves 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: really well. Uh tight end turned tackle. He's a little 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: older from Austria. He's a little late to the game 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: and this football thing, you know, picked it up late 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and late and then and then COVID didn't help his 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: acquisition to the States either. Boy, I don't know if 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: he gets out of the first round. I mean, he's 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: a really athletic guy. Hypothetical scenario for you then he's there. Pennings, 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: they're both at twenty. Which way would you leave? I think? 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: And I think they're very different in that Raymonds more 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: of a zone mover, lighter Penning. I always him a 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: heel from w W. E is the right. He is 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: a nasty finisher. I worry Pennings you get scooped up 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: by the Ravens. I mean he's one of those one 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: of those Yeah, yeah, that guy would fit there really well. 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: And that is I know you said that the other 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: day talking about how you'd love to see like a 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty with Ozzie Newsom and Kevin Colbert one 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: day and just they could be honest truth serum, both 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: of them. And how often were you looking at how 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: that you wanted to and they're always picking around relatively 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: the same area for the most part. It feels like 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about tackles, because you know that's 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: the new Steelers. We we we've discussed linder Bomb a 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: little bit at center. Any guards in this class that 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: could be a fit for the Steelers, maybe you know 59 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: specifically like day one, first round or early day two. 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: There's I do more work on the depth guys there, 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: but there are two that really stand out in a 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: big way. Green from A and M. He's three pounds. 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: He's a wide bodied guy. Played with Dan Moore. Um, 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: he's played some tackle, but really he would just plug 65 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: right in as your right guard, hopefully for the next 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: ten years. You know, I mean certainly has masher quality. 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: He moves well in space. Two he can hit smaller 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: objects if he's out pulling or getting to the second level. 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Very impressive. I mean, I hate the work, so I 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: just use the cliche that I hate to use. You know, 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna play for ten years. I mean he could, 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: he could blow out that those things. But he does 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: like a really you know, immediate starter that should hit. 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: So does Zion Johnson from Boston College. And the first 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: thing that stood out with me was this guy looks 76 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: like a pound running back. There's like no fat on 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: his body. He's got these big, strong calves and lower 78 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: body in general. Um, he played some tackle at Boston College. 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: That's not what he is. It's not a great center draft. 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: So the Senior Bowl had him snap quite a bit 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: that for the first time early in his life, and 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: he looked pretty good at it. But it's just one 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: more thing to add to his you know, repertoire. Maybe, um, 84 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, just from a Steeler perspective, if by chance 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna leave Green at center, put John guard and 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Green flounders, maybe you can flip them, you know, I mean, 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: at least that is some appeal where Greens I can 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: ever play center, but Zion probably could. Um. But again, 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: I think both of them are pure guards and really 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: good ones, you know, I mean, first round type guys. 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of Green, I'm I'm sure you've had this conversation 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: with Dale, because you guys tough each other more than 93 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: you speak to your own wives. You and I though, 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: and when we see each other a lot it working 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: in the hallways and things, But in terms of getting 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: on the microphone, it's really probably only here in training 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: camp that you and I actually chop it up. What's 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: your take on Kendrick Green and the conversation about moving 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: him to guard? See, I thought I'll be I'll just 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: be very honest. I mean, well, before Roethlisberger came out 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: and said boy would be a really good guard, Dave 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and I had mentioned that several times. You know that 103 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a rookie center is asked to do it it's a 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: really tough position. I mean, the pouncies, the Creed Humphries, 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: they're they're rare, rare, And a lot of it's even 106 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: mentally just seeing the game and making calls. And your 107 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: left guard is five different dudes, and Trey Turner comes 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: late to the mix, and you know, I mean, Dal's 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: brought us up a couple of times. Maybe it goes 110 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: a little better if the castro at rocket right guard 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: that they had played, you know, he can at least 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: lead the line and him and Ben would communicate like 113 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: they have for a million years. Um And frankly, you know, 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Green played a lot more guard than its center at Illinois. 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: But I love them coming out of school. I love 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: the pick. I'm not gonna go back on that at all. 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: And a lot of it's because his explosion, um, the 118 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: way he gets off the ball, the way he hunts 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: for contact, gets down field, and and and I would 120 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: often not excuse his play at center, but it was obvious, 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: big heavy guys gave him a lot of problems. And 122 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: I think the obvious answer was, well, he's not big enough, 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: he's not strong enough. And that's not the k my opinion. 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's more technique. It's more when 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: you're he comes out of his stands too high after snapping, 126 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: where you didn't see that at guard, and you know 127 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: he could be better with his hands, he could sink 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: his hips a little bit better because because strength, his 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: traits don't worry me. To me, those are his strengths, 130 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: whether it's center or guard. And then you know, Max 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Stark's really took another level to be very honest, and 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: that's why great offensive line insight. And he really said 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: he's really pour snap hand, which makes all the sense 134 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: in the world too. You know, you snap with your 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: right hand, it's between your legs and you've got to 136 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: be so unbelievably quick to get it from here to there. 137 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: That's a long distance. When there's a stud over you know, 138 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: you're you know, over your nose or and he's a 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. That became very obvious. The teams knew 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: these things, so they're attacking his right side, you know 141 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: when h Minnesota exactly exactly. So if he doesn't correct that, 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: he can't be a center. You know my hunches that's 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: what he's working on with Pouncy right now. You know, 144 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: so I do know people in the organization have pretty 145 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: much said they think he's a center, so I can't 146 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: say anything we want, but they still think he's going 147 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to be a good center, and I understand that. The 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: one thing that gives me pause as I looked this 149 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago. You know, when when 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Ben had talked about him playing guard right right right, 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: he'd be the second of last year, him in the 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: second smallest starting guard in the NFL, only Shack Mason. Yeah, 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: when Mason's actually a strange one because he's a very 154 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: short for Regardo. He's a thick, strong, athletic guy, but 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: he probably doesn't weigh a ton because he's shorter. You know, 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't particularly worry for you. But I will say, 157 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: without question, I don't know what they want from their 158 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: individual lineman. Do they want mashers that are heavy footed 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: or they want active guys? Yeah, handada one. What's the 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: system really build around from that position? I'm not sure, 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: you know. So we'll see. We will see, indeed, and 162 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: that's what makes this all so much fun. Live on 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Radio Row, We're gonna get our break clock back on scare. 164 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: We got some more guests coming up for you in 165 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: this hour. Uh Dale. Lali will join us at noon 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: as well to we'll give Matt a little bit of 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna play some host musical chairs here today, 168 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: fellas is it's just the three of us left. You 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: got Youler, you got Williamson, you got Lolli for six 170 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: hours today and three hours tomorrow. I hope you'll like 171 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: it because you're gonna get plenty of it. We're gonna 172 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll have Laura Rutledge of ESPN at 173 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. More guests to come as 174 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: well too, So don't you dare go into a conversation 175 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: about last night some of the measurements that come out 176 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: today as well to a reminder. Our Combine coverage brought 177 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: to you by First National Bank. Let's get started Member 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: f D I C live at the Indiana Convention Center 179 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana on the row. Our coverage of 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: the two NFL scouting Combine continues next on Senter Life 181 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: and Adventure and it's waiting Hi. 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Yeah, I mean I've done stuff with 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: lots of different places in Pittsburgh. Yeah. I think that 203 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: first time I met you in person with training camp. Yeah, 204 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm not at a rock and a podcast going together 205 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: we go. So you've had the nights at Sharkey's and 206 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: all that that different Tom foolery that we get into. 207 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: John Ledgard, Tampa Bay Bucks and NFL Draft Repeter Report. 208 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here, man, absolute really I appreciate 209 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: you guys having me on what's going on to stee 210 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you want to ask me questions, right, 211 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Steelers. Let's go on with 212 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: my own town team. It's not an easy one to discuss, 213 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I mean, obviously starts with quarterback, but 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: they're on the GM search and a lot of guys 215 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: are up and no Ben and obviously there's no there's 216 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: cap space. That's a weird thing for Steeler Nation to 217 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: deal with. Two So it might be the most fun 218 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: off season that we can remember for the Steelers, you know, 219 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: a crucial one too, certainly eventful and lots of big 220 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: decisions that you made. And yeah, it's gonna be very 221 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens with Pittsburgh and all those positions. 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: I think, and you think about a team being in 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: the position they're in, they typically aren't coming off of 224 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs with somehow they got there. J Watt and 225 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Cam Favorite's how they got there. It was. It's fun 226 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: to watch, but I don't know if data to improve 227 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: some of these other spots. Yeah, no, absolutely, And let's 228 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: start with the one that is the big conversation piece. Obviously, 229 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: for the first time in almost two decades, you've got 230 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: a question about who the QB one is going to 231 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: be going into the season for the Steelers. John. It 232 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: seems there's two factions of Steelers fans on this. The 233 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: first is kind of what you alluded to a little bit. 234 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: You've got camp Heywards, You've got t. J. Watt, You've 235 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: got makea Fitzpatrick. You can't waste years with those guys. 236 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: You've got to go and get a Mittra Bisky Baroppolo, 237 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: whoever Jamis Winston, somebody with some veteran experience in the league. 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: And then there's the other half of of you know, 239 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the fan base of Steeler Nation, who says, you know 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: you had you, you got your guy in Ben eighteen years. 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: We want that similar thing again. We want to bring 242 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: in a rookie who's gonna be able to grow here 243 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: and be here for for two decades. Do you have 244 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: an opinion on that or does it literally just I mean, 245 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: does it just have to be how free agency plays out, 246 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: how the draft falls to you, and all those dominoes 247 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: before you pick. I don't think you can let anybody 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: accelerate your process with the quarterback like you to be 249 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: in love with the quarterback that you take to day 250 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: we did something. You're just gonna do what the Broncos 251 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to this past yere right, which is put themselves lower 252 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: in the draft order, but still not do anything that 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: actually helps him as a team moving forward. You know, 254 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: you knew Bridgewater wasn't gonna get you where he needed 255 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: to go. Yet they still pay them what they pay them. 256 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's such a better idea in my mind 257 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: to build the rest of the roster. If the quarterback 258 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: is not there, do your due diligence, look at the options, 259 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: but look at the draft. But if the guys in 260 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: there that you think is is able to right now 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: or can someday be able to hit you to that's 262 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: the goal that the Pittsburgh Steelers are have to be about. 263 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: It can't just be like good enough, You're good enough, 264 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: like no offense. But like Ben Osbury the last couple 265 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: of years, was it's enough. You know it's enough, But 266 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: that's not what the team need, Like this is a 267 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: team with a defense and some defensive pieces and probably 268 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: even a couple offensive pieces, although they obviously need more 269 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: um that they could be They could be contenders in 270 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: a few years if they play their cards right at 271 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: that position. But they have kind of dragged your feet 272 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and doing that, and they've let this thing run out 273 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: with Mason Rudolph and they've gott a guy like Dwayne Haskins, 274 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: who you know, there's just not much of that those 275 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: guys could be answers. So they need to find that answer, 276 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't exist this offseason, then build the 277 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: rest of the roster because chances are it's going to 278 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: next draft and you won't be that great. But that's okay, 279 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: Like you'll have the operation. I'm not saying Tank, I'm 280 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: just saying the answers in their quarterback. Don't waste money 281 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: on somebody who's not going to be the answer long term. 282 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: Wait and be patient and find that guy, even if 283 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: it's the next year's draft. Yeah, Like a lot of 284 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: what you said there, and a lot of that applies 285 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: to the team that you cover with Tampa, But they 286 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: wanted Superowl two years ago, so everything's worth it from 287 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: this point on. I mean, that's the goal they reached. 288 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: It is Brady really retired there, who's gonna be their quarterback? 289 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: They got about a hundred free agents. You know what's 290 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: going on in Tampa. And what's different too, is there's 291 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: no Bengals or Ravens in that division right now. Right 292 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: that's a division very much in transition with all those 293 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: all the teams now with the Bucks, even in their situation, 294 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're kind of did exactly what 295 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm suggesting that a lot of people said Jamis isn't 296 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: the guy after year four? They said, yes, what he's 297 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: our best option for year five. That's we looked at 298 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: the officer on the table. He's the best optioner we 299 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: can get for a year five. So they ran it 300 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: back with him. They didn't make the playoffs, but they 301 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: built the rest of the roster. They got another great draft. 302 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: They focused on other positions. Ristan, A lot of people 303 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna go get another quarter try and 304 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: get another quarterback and try it. They didn't like them, 305 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: so they stay over there and they did what they 306 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: needed to do. They traded back. They got Dave ad 307 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: extra pick, but the extra pick. They took Carlton Davis 308 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: like they did things like that filled the rest of 309 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: the roster. They were patient. The opportunity came, they nabbed 310 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a Brady. Now, you're not always gonna have a Brady. 311 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: I get that, but boy, because exactly, I don't think 312 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: enough people recognize that it wasn't what he came in 313 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: there and they transformed. They were coming off a quarterback 314 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: and turned the ball over forty times in a year 315 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: that just cannot you can't win, and they were still 316 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: like seven and nine like it, and then with a 317 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: young secondary. All those guys were either on rookie or 318 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: second year deals in that secondary. And they obviously added 319 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: to it the next year in the draft with Antoine Winfield. 320 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: So they built it the right way and they focused 321 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: on key positions in the draft, and they waited and 322 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: they waited in the quarterback, and I think that's what 323 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna do moving forward. I do think Brady is 324 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: really retired. I don't buy into all the rumors that 325 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: are out there. Brady was never going to retire without 326 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: a million rumors that that never gonna happen. Like it's Brady, 327 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: we have to talk about him until like it. Francisco, 328 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's very far fetched to me. He 329 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: loved his time in Tampa Contrey to what a couple 330 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: of people maybe have tried to start up. He love 331 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: this time in Tampa in the relationship there with the 332 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: players and coaches was was one of the strong points. 333 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I think why Tampa Bay would be like, man, leave 334 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: this store open if you want to come back and 335 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: change your mind. And I know everybody's acting to what 336 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Brady said, but Brady is isn't a no win situation. 337 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: If he says I'm totally done with football straight up? 338 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: What happens if in July he's like, or June he's like, 339 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: you want to play again? Like i'mine, I mean, I 340 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: really want to play football again like I've done, like 341 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I love it. And she's like, you know what, You're 342 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: not the same without football, Like I know you soil 343 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: that itch, and she encouraged him to get back out there. 344 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Now he's done, Brett Farve, he said I'm done, and 345 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: now everybody's like this goddam mag walks every day now 346 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: he's just saying like I'm done, but like but like, 347 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen in June or July, like, 348 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how it feels, but I'm very 349 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: committed to retirement. But you know, all these things like 350 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know what's concerning about but he can't 351 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: say either way, like either way, there's gonna be something 352 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: that happens. That's why I said that we're never gonna 353 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: avoid rumors, but I do think it'll be trash and 354 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Gabbert of the Bucks less another better option presents themselves 355 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: right now. They want to be aggressive, but Shahn Watson 356 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: is not a real option. Russell Wilson's not asking for trade, 357 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: Rogers going back to Green Bay cousins, and car Ryan's 358 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: not getting traded within the division. So Garopolo terrible fit 359 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: for the system. Plus giving up assets for that is 360 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: rough Wentz just terrible. So I don't know, that's kind 361 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of right. Do you see any of the courts in 362 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: this class as that guy? I mean, that's that's the 363 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: dollar question, right, Matt has I'll be really honest like 364 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: most time, like, no, I don't see them as that guy. 365 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: But I do think maliek wils has talent, and you know, 366 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: if you take him, at least you said, we believe 367 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: we can develop somebody. We believe he can develop into that. 368 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: He's very talented. He's so much athleticism and is so 369 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: elusive that he could have a bad process for a while, 370 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: kind of like Lamar Jackson when he started his career, 371 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: like it wasn't all perfect his first year as when 372 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: he was playing I wouldn't even say as a starter 373 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: because flat Is started a lot of the year, but 374 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: when he was playing, um, you know, he he didn't 375 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: necessary perfect process every staff and he's improved from that point, 376 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: but he's still got good results because he had his 377 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: like he could make something out nothing, even after he 378 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: screwed up the read or whatever. And so I think that, yeah, yeah, yeah, 379 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: he can. If you have a great team around him, 380 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: he could kind of keep you in the fight. But 381 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: the really you have to determine his personality. I mean, 382 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen, like he he was so far 383 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: from what he is now, but they drafted the guy 384 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: and the personality and the drive and the leadership and 385 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: all that was in place. I love talking to the 386 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: league wal It's I think he's hilarious and he's just 387 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: refreshingly genuine. There's no like superfluousness about him or anything 388 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: like that. I enjoy him a lot. You know, teams 389 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: are gonna have to put him through another microscope of 390 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: is he the alpha? Can he take control of the 391 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: locker and all that kind of stuff, But um, I'm 392 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: encouraged by him. I think genuine took in relationship to 393 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: what the rest of the quarterback class is much more 394 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: than the other five I think, So, I mean, yeah, 395 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't Sam how like I'm just not sure, Like 396 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: he can't be he's not as athletic as well, so 397 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: he can't he he is athletic, but he's as athletic 398 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: as Wilson that he can get himself out of all 399 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: these bad spots. And he's just constantly putting himself in 400 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: bad spots in the pocket like he needs the pocket 401 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: presence has to improve, and obviously there's accuracy concerns. So 402 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's talented, you know. Kenny Pickett, I know 403 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: he's the local guy and everybody gets excited about him, 404 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: like the hand sized thing is out there and I 405 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: have opinions on that for sure, But I don't know 406 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: if I see the upside with Kenny Pickett to be 407 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: what I think you would like in a franchise quarterback. 408 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: And if you don't have ups, if you're gonna be 409 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: a Andy dalton A, you're ceiling. Where does that leave 410 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: you as an organization that is good and solid careers? 411 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: A multimillionaire, I mean, he's done a lot of good things, 412 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: and even to take a step further, it's like, okay, 413 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: it's your three, it's your four. He's good winning games. 414 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: Do I want to give him forty million? You know? 415 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: I want, boy, I want to give him Leak Wills 416 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: forty million right now. I can't wait to do it, 417 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, and could be right, but I don't know 418 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: if you'll ever be there with Pickett right right. I 419 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: just don't know they can get that excited about him 420 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: when that time comes, right, I agree with you, John 421 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Legard with us here on s n R. Fellow Yinser 422 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: covers the Bucks in the Draft for the Pewter Report. 423 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: UM wide receivers last night, a lot of guys skyrocketing 424 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: up the board. UM A lot of really impressive times 425 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: last night. It feels like that's a group that always, 426 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, aside from the jamares Is and the guys 427 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: that are are nailed on top five, top ten picks. 428 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: A lot of guys elevate their stock this week. Is 429 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: that a group that feels like man Day two, especially 430 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: probably early, a lot of those guys are gonna come 431 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: off the board. Yeah, I think so. I mean, we've 432 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: even seen a good wide receiver classes lately. The guys 433 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: fall down the board, re sceries falled on the board, 434 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: they go in the second round. So I think you 435 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: will see some of these guys going the second round 436 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: even after good testing, some of the higher name, bigger names. Um, 437 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it was just a funny forty 438 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: in general. You were like, what these forties can't be real, 439 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: and then they weren't. They weren't real, like half the 440 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: time's got diminished, but they were still really good time. 441 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: So you just felt disappointed, even though one of the 442 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: fastest wide re scier classes ever. So it's just kind 443 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: of a weird evening I think with the results there. 444 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I think that this is a good 445 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: class of wide receivers. I'm not sure one of these 446 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: guys will be and then looked, Um, one of these 447 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: guys will wind up being really good. But as they 448 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: pro pro profile right now, I see like a lot 449 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: of good number two's and good pieces of an offense. 450 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I see like a D. K. 451 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Matcalf for J. J. Brown or somebody who comes out 452 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: and does that kind of that kind of production overall, 453 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: but they're good players. Trailing Burke's didn't have a great 454 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: day yesterday, but he's two five running fives. That's pretty good. Um, 455 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: guys I like and so that's impressive. Drake Lendon did 456 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: not run. Some people like him as wide or sere one. 457 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: I've been told pretty reliably by a couple of people 458 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: that he's not. He wouldn't have he's not. It was 459 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: never gonna run here because it wasn't gonna be pretty 460 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: in terms of his forty. And that's easy for me 461 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: to believe watching them on tape. So we'll see what happens. 462 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: There's pro I mean pro day you can get your 463 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: juice number, but um, I think there's there's all some 464 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: hurdles left for him to clear. So it's a it's 465 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: a very good class. There's definitely guys that can help you. 466 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: It's all about what system you running, how guys fit 467 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: into that system, and what's your thoughts on the tackles 468 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: as a whole, it seems like a pretty good class. 469 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Stealers are twenty. They're not getting Eel, they're not getting Across, 470 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: they're not getting Nikwana, but they could be in them 471 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: hunt for the next group in the first round or 472 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Day two. Guys, are there any names that are kind 473 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: of exciting to you? Trevor Penning's quickly becoming a Steeler favorite, said, right, Uh, 474 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: he might get there. I think you'll get there. I 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: think he'll be on the board. Um, you know there's 476 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: some good inside with him. I need to watch more 477 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: of his tape for sure before I find there's great 478 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: lots of penalties. Um, but there's aggressiveness that's good. I 479 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: think technically there's still a good ways to go. Can 480 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: they get him there? Um? Taking a lot of raw guys, 481 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: it's hard when you're not drafting as high as you 482 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, your deep talent probably indicates you should be 483 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: like if they were Draft ten, which is you know 484 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: they might have a chance a cross and could have 485 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: a good at the draft of the twenty. Um, so 486 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: that changes things when a couples could have been a 487 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: different slot in the draft order. So mess out of 488 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: the top three tackles and I'm not sure I would take. 489 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, Bernard Raymond gets that hype. He's gonna be 490 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: an older player in the NFL. There's still some rawness there. 491 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: He was kind of off the radar until this past 492 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: year and then kind of at an older age than 493 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guy he went up against, kind of 494 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: erupted a little bit. And so there's promise there was 495 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: some of those guys. But you know, I worry about 496 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: those go when when you're a team that hasn't developed 497 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: like kind of um raw players on the offensive line 498 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: in recent years, I think you need to be very 499 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: careful about targeting those types. Not every staff in the league, 500 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: in fact most staff. So it's a can't develop offensive line. 501 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: We see those picks go to waste all the time. 502 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: So you need to be very careful about assessing your 503 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: own staff, knowing what their strengths and weaknesses are, and 504 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: then make sure you pair players staff that makes sense. 505 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Steelers obviously need to retool, rebuild both sides of the 506 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: football in the trenches. Not the greatest defensive tackle class, 507 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: But is is there anyone that stands out to you 508 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: as potential value there? Maybe on on day number two 509 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: for the Steelers to to add some depth behind guys 510 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: like Payward and Tyson La Lalla and everyone optimistically hoping 511 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: to fund to it as well too. Yeah, I mean, 512 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: obviously if two it comes back and that's a big one, right, 513 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: that will be a big one. And so you know 514 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: what kind of that's been one of the weirder sitisteens 515 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: in the league in terms of trying to figure out 516 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: how that spot is progressed sing for them, But I mean, 517 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I think they like some of the guys. I think 518 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: they like some of the guys they have too, So 519 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it will be because they have 520 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: other needs I have, you know, if montrevious Adams is 521 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: proving some things and so there could be some answers 522 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: among their current group too. But you're right, definitely a 523 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: situation the limitations of the group were exposed, especially because 524 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: we know they're going to rotate to somebody. You know, 525 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you've got a situation Tyson and Lulu, You've got situations 526 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: with Adams, You've got situations with Chris Wormley. They need 527 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: to kind of be figured out this offseason obviously, But 528 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: I think this class is decent. As you get down 529 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: you know there are Travis Jones, Jordan Davis types that 530 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: are very much run stuffers that right now probably are 531 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna give you much on passing downs. And yeah, I know, 532 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: so maybe that's the group. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe 533 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: you look for a true nose. Can you get one 534 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: third round where you don't have to use that would 535 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: be great. Look like there's some guys guys. Yeah, so 536 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's about figuring out what do you need? Do 537 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: you need do you need fifteen snaps? Because if you 538 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: need that, then don't one in the second round. Get 539 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: get somebody who can give you fifteen to twenty, but 540 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: get him in the later in the draft. So that's 541 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: how it addressed up. But there's guys that could fit 542 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: for them, for sure. I think DeVante White will be 543 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: the first guy off the board probably. I think you'll 544 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: test very well. Yeah, and then you'll see Davis and 545 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: Jones just go wherever he'd run stuffers. I actually think 546 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Travis Jones is more upside than Jordan Davis, who I 547 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: think there's more potential there to be a pass rusher. 548 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Jordan is more complete player right or more solid run 549 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: defender right away. But I think, yeah, that's how I 550 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: see those guys, and then there's your wild cards. I mean, 551 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: to Marvin leale Is Pounds in college, that's very rare. 552 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: You can see the athleticism hopefully test well, we'll see. 553 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that you're gonna have to figure 554 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: out who he is as a person. But the Steelers 555 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: they love to take those guys who you don't have 556 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: this all his athleticism and we'll figure out the rest 557 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: and kind of have these enigmatic person outs. Is how 558 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: he's been described, and so that stuff won't scare them 559 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: offully at well other teams. The last thing I have 560 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: to ask you about his last segment. We were just 561 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: talking about Kendrick's center see guard as he center. He 562 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: really struggled as a rookie before free I mean weeks fifteen. 563 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: I started to looking at the free agents, going what 564 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: about Ryan Jensen in Pittsburgh. Yeah, I'm sure the Bucks 565 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: done him to move on at all, but he's a 566 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: former AFC North guy. Leader asked he. I mean he 567 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: would bring a lot to a young line. I mean 568 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: he should be at the top of their list. Now 569 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: there's there's always concerns, right, I mean, Laaren Jensen is 570 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna be thrown in May. He has not missed a 571 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: game with the Bucks, so the last four years he's 572 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: not missed a game, but he played through injuries last 573 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: two years. With his style of play at thirty one, 574 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: there are concerns about Feathers body would hold long term. Yeah, 575 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: for sure. He was one of those guys that will 576 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: play until he drops. So I don't think you have 577 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: to worry about that. He'll play through so play well, 578 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and he's gotten better every year, like he just has 579 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: his best season um and so that's a good sign 580 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: for him. But there are still the concerns with paying 581 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, especially when he's gonna need to be 582 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: paid like he wants. He wants top of the market 583 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: money like he wants to be. In the conversation with 584 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Frank right now, at thirteen and a half mill buck sigh, 585 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: And they made him the highest paid center in the 586 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: league at the time that a half mill Frank Grigg 587 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: now thirteen and a half mills the highest paced center 588 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: in league. Now, that's the kind of money's gonna be one. 589 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: So you have to gauge all of those things. There's 590 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: no question in the short term it would help a ton, 591 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, leader, he's a culture changer. He is incredibly 592 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: physical and aggressive and nasty. Steelers fans would welcome. It 593 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: will be a breath of fresh air, but that fresh 594 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: air will be out the door if he gets hurt 595 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: in year one and then isn't the same in year two, 596 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and then the body's aging line is so young. Though 597 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: they could use somebody look up to, you know, it's 598 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: a leader of that room. It's tricky. He'd be he'd 599 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: feeling great if he could stay healthy and keep his 600 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: level play up, but it's a risk. At thirty one, 601 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: John Ledyard, Pittsburgh native, now down in the Sunshine State 602 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: covering the Bucks in the NFL Draft Repeter Report. Always 603 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: a blast man. Thanks for your time, absolutely, guys, thanks 604 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: for me. I appreciate it. We're gonna take a break here. 605 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: We'll be back from Radio row inside the Indiana Convention Center. 606 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Are ongoing coverage of the NFL combine continues on SNR 607 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: live from this is continuing cover each of the NFL 608 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Combine on Steelers Nation Radio. All of our coverage here 609 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: this week live from the Indiana Center on Radio Road, 610 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: brought to you by First National Bank. Let's get started. 611 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: Member f D I CE Wesley Yowlder, Matt Williamson with 612 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: you here for about ten more minutes before we turn 613 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: things over. Well, Matt's gonna step out for a little bit, Dale, 614 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Lolly will step in. Dale and I will go from 615 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: noon until two, and then you have Dale and Matt 616 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: to bring you home from until four. It's the trio 617 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: of Lolly Williamson Yowler here for the rest of the 618 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: reading It on Home, bringing it on Home. And in 619 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: just a few minutes from now. Another guest is that one. 620 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: There's always a connect. Another guest, Laura Rutledge from ESPN, 621 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: is going to join us here just momentarily. I believe 622 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: she's finishing up a television interview over there. Um, so 623 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: we'll we'll continue to have the guests, will break down 624 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: some numbers from last night and some measurements that are 625 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: coming in here today. Um, and this is you know, 626 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: getting into last night's always the prom King's workout right, quarterbacks, 627 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: wide receivers. But I'm I'm very I'm really excited to 628 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: see both sides of the trenches here in the next 629 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: day or two. Oh yeah, I mean, and it's very 630 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: steel irrelevant. And I thought John had some really good 631 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: comments about don't go get a quarterback unless you're in 632 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: love with them, you know, and at least going all 633 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: in on them in the meantime. You know, I didn't 634 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: plan on going down that road with him, but Dyaleen, 635 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: I used to talk about this a lot when Jamis 636 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Winston was with the Box. Was this is a good team, 637 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: and not all Winston's fault, but all the turnovers gave 638 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: those guys no chance to succeed. But there's a reason Brady, 639 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: who wasn't courted by only one team, looked to Tampa 640 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: and said, wow, I like that infrastructure. And as John said, 641 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady's coming available next off season, 642 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: but things change really weird around the league, and how 643 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: to present. I mean, if you build a really good foundation, 644 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: especially with both lines of scrimmage, it would be a 645 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: really interesting destination if something like that comes about again, 646 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: who's to say, you know, Wilson and Rodgers have been 647 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: blooming for years and who's the next one. You know, 648 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: So I think that all in all is probably the 649 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: best approach. I think, you know, right, focus on these 650 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: big people that will be running and jumping and stuff 651 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: these a couple of days too, And I think The 652 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: important thing about that, man, I think a lot of 653 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: Steelers fans here that in the panic. That doesn't mean 654 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: that this team is gonna fall off a cliff. It 655 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're gonna go out there next year 656 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: and go fourt I mean Tomla's press press pot or 657 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: you know pep talks before the game. Aren't gona be 658 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: like go out and you know, see if you can 659 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: keep it close. I mean, they're gonna be competitive. I mean, 660 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: and this league crazy you I forget who we're talking 661 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: to yesterday, um might have even been the since people 662 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: just get in the get in the playoffs, be right. 663 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals, you know, as they were ten and seven 664 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: in the regular season, it's not like they were world 665 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: They weren't a joggernaut. And you know Mike Tanier mentioned, 666 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, they got the Raiders and then they got 667 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: to tighten. They played their best football at the right 668 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: stayed healthy, and they end up in the super Bowl, 669 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's not uncommon in 670 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: this league. You get a good draw and things go well, 671 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: and the Steelers are always gonna be relevant, you know, 672 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be in the hunt. They're gonna 673 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: be hard to play, so by no means as anyone 674 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: conceding two thousand twenty one, right, And I have a 675 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of fans of you it that way. When it's oh, 676 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Mason Rudolph, or even if it's one 677 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: of these, you know, Mitch Robiskie, Jamis Winston, that's not 678 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: enough to compete with with Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson 679 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: in the division and and Herbert and Alan and Mahomes 680 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: around the A f C. But things can change very quickly, 681 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: very quickly, you build nested up you eight till I 682 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: believe Greg Cosell said this with us a couple of 683 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: days ago. When you're single, every potential dating partner seems great, Right, 684 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you spend next fourty years. That doesn't 685 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: mean that doesn't mean that you want to get married 686 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: to him. Just because maybe you haven't been on a 687 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: date for a while. You've gotta wait for the right one, 688 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: or else you'll end up having an ugly breakup. You 689 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: set yourself back even more. And I think that's that's 690 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: got to be the mantra for the next you know, twelve, 691 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: the sixteen months here. Yeah, and hey, I'm not even 692 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: dismissing that Willis or Pickett or Corral or any of 693 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: those guys could be that right one, you know. I mean, 694 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's no quarterbacks here. They're ever gonna 695 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: be good, you know, But you have to find the 696 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: one of and really commit to it and be all 697 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: in and build around that player. But in the meantime, 698 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: build up the infrastructure that will work for whatever quarterback 699 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: you happen to put in there, you know. So I 700 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense to me. And um, 701 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, this is a smart organization. They're gonna be 702 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: replacing their general manager. But I don't think philosophically things 703 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: are gonna change a whack of a lot. No, I 704 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: agree with that one. Joining out another live on radio 705 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: row on SNR, Laura Rutledge of ESPN, Laura, how are 706 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm great? How are you guys? Fantastic jinks? 707 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh big that you know each other. We do a 708 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of this radio stuff together. We talked to each 709 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: other more than our wives. I think last night a 710 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: big one in primetime Quarterbacks, wide Receivers. What was your 711 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from everything we saw last night and the 712 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: speed of that receiver class is un and I think 713 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: it's funny because you guys, know, sometimes you watch forties 714 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: from the stands and you think, oh wow, like I 715 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: look fast and it's like a four or five. You 716 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: could tell a difference in how speedy those guys really are. 717 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, covering a lot of these 718 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: guys in college, we knew how good Crystal lav is, right, 719 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: but I personally didn't expect him to run that fast. 720 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: He's one of the best route runners in the class 721 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to have that speed cut And I'll put this out 722 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: there too, if we had Jamison Williams running, he might 723 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: have had the fastest all of them. So you know it, 724 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: it is really um it's really remarkable to see. I 725 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: think there's been so much conversation around the defensive ends 726 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: right at the top of the class some of these 727 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and rightfully so, but to look at the 728 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: talent of this receiver classes is really really cool. I mean, 729 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: they could be record breaking. I think at the end 730 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: of the day kind of said last year, and that's 731 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: been proven in a lot of ways, So that's that's 732 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: exciting to me. It sure seemed like one after another 733 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: after another. I mean it was really impressive, just the 734 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: volume of the speed guys in Pittsburgh. All the talk, 735 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: of course is quarterbacks, you know, I mean you're going 736 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame someday. Are you getting any 737 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: vibe the quarterback carousel around the league and specifically in Pittsburgh? Yeah, 738 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: any insight would be great. Are to unpeel it? I 739 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: that's good to put it. I mean, you know, every 740 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: day on NFL Live, we're like putting a different quarterback 741 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: on the Steelers because because we're trying to figure the 742 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: same thing out that you guys are. And you know, 743 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: I think there's so many intriguing ideas, right, Like I 744 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: love the idea of Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh and who 745 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: doesn't sure it would be such a such a neat fit. 746 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: And but but it's like, is that happening? Probably not, 747 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, Carol might not be as fond of it 748 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: exactly right, And sorry Pete if they're listening right now. 749 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: But but you know, that seems that seems is probably 750 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: the best way to put it. And so we're we 751 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: have such a unique quarterback draft here because I believe 752 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: as much as we talk about, well, none of these 753 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: guys are franchise guys. You know, somebody's going to come 754 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: out of this class. We're gonna say, wow, we underestimated 755 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: this guy. And that that may sound like an obvious statement, 756 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, well, yeah, sure, somebody. But maybe it's Malik 757 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: Willis and and maybe the Steelers say let's take a 758 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: chance on this guy. You know, I think he's the 759 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: most interesting quarterback in this class. Um, he is a 760 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: developmental project. And and do you want to take that 761 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: on right when when you look and you say, hey, 762 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: we can actually go ahead and win. Now if we 763 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: can get a quarterback that would that would be ready 764 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: to go. Um. You know that's where Kenny Pickett comes in. 765 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: And and and for me, if I'm the Steelers and 766 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to take him, I do um 767 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: because I think that he is the most pro ready 768 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: And even if it's a long term, long term solution, 769 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: at least maybe it gets you to a point where 770 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: you say, you've nausey Hereris, who's such a beast, one 771 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: of my favorite players of all time. You have some weapons, 772 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: You've got some defensive skills. Obviously, you've got some really 773 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: good guys on the defensive side. You can kind of 774 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: fortify a lot of the rest of the draft too, 775 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: and see what you do next year, you know, and 776 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: and then and then kind of go from there. Um, 777 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: And I realized people say, well, why it sounds like 778 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: you're saying you waste a first round pick. I don't 779 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: think it's that, because I do think Kenny Pickett can 780 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: successful long term. But you never know what the quarterback 781 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: market look like next year or the year up. That's 782 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: where we're just in a bit of a limbo right now, 783 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: and yet it could all change in a snap. And so, um, 784 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what the Steelers do and 785 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: say it's one of our favorite topics. On NFL Lives, 786 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: we're all throwing out different names. Um, I wish you 787 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: guys could get Russ though, that'd be awesome. That's my vote. 788 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, and especially on NFL Live. 789 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Ryan Clark, arc Lewis Riddick with 790 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh connections as well too, so plenty of Steeler talk. 791 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: Is there a Is there a third of those? For you? Right? So? 792 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: I think Get and Willis or the two that have 793 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: commanded all the attention this week. Is there a third 794 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: or is that where the gap between those two would 795 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: you put Sam How in the same class would you 796 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: put Ritterer in the same class. Had a great workout 797 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: and you know I I covered him a lot through 798 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: the college football playoff run and the speed is really interesting, right, 799 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: and um he dynamic with his legs. I think some 800 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: for me, you know, just watching him over those games 801 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: and and listen, I mean going up against Alabama, like 802 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: you're you're probably not gonna win that game, right, But 803 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: but either way, um, I thought he showed some nice things. 804 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about Ritter if you watch his film 805 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: is he a lot of times seemed anxious early on 806 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: in games. That seemed to be a theme for him 807 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: throughout his career, and then he would get better as 808 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: the game goes along. So I still think there's some 809 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: you know, seeing the field and mental development that needs 810 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: to happen their understanding of the game. I like him. 811 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: I would actually throw Matt Corral in there. I know 812 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: people are like, man, he's he's a little smaller and 813 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: and whatever, and is it really a fit game? But 814 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: to me, he is the guy in my opinion that 815 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: from an intangible standpoint, from the standpoint of just being 816 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: a gritty guy who has been doubted his entire career, 817 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: who has a damnic skill set when he's healthy. By 818 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: the way, this entire season he played hurt right and 819 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: really got hurt um, but yet continue to go out there, 820 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: continued to believe in his team, even though he knew 821 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: he would be a high draft pick. So I like 822 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: him a lot. I think he's getting lost in the 823 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: conversation a little bit. He didn't throw yesterday. Um, you 824 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: know that the further we get away from the season, right, 825 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: the more people are just talking about these combine moments 826 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: and you know, and it's like, let's remember what the 827 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: tape showed and evaluate these guys too. You mentioned the 828 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: playoffs in Alabama and all that. And I'm not implying 829 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: Steeler they're gonna pick first over next year, but he's 830 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: going to be the cream crop next year, right, Okay. 831 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean you probably know more about him than our listeners. 832 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten close to that far and we're 833 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: really looking ahead. But what kind of prospect is he? Well? 834 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: But so that I think a really important piece of 835 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: the conversation for the Steelers, because do you say, let's 836 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: just wait another year and try to get it right 837 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: and and and you know, they might land in a 838 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: in a way to to get Braise young, you know, 839 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: or maybe there's some things he could move out of, 840 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: some trades that would happen. Um, he is electric now. 841 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: He is a little bit small that you know, that's 842 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be That'll be probably the biggest question about him. 843 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: But I have yet to see a quarterback as young 844 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: as he was and is who is so elevated mentally already. 845 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: And um, you know, Bill O'Brien of course was the 846 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there for Alabama, and he coached some great quarterbacks. 847 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: And even in talking to him and the lead up 848 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: to the National Championship and and before that, so much 849 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: of what he said was I'm going to Bryce and saying, hey, 850 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: what do you think? What what should we be doing? 851 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: Schematically He's coming back saying let's try this or do 852 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: this and that. And of course they dealt with a 853 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: ton of injuries with their receiving corps um, you know, 854 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: and even Jamison Williams going down in the National Championships, 855 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: they had to change a lot of theirs around because 856 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have the dynamic threat of Waddle and Williams 857 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: and all you know, all these guys out of MATCHI right, 858 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: So it it all came down to, you know, being 859 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: able to adapt. And Bryce Young brought up a lot 860 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: of those suggestions. So I think that speaks to the 861 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: type of person, the type of football mind that he is. 862 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: The skill set is unbelievable, you know, and I actually 863 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: think he probably didn't as much as he would or could. 864 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: Um they were trying to keep him healthy, right, so 865 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: they they threw the ball a little bit more, and 866 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: he relied on that a little bit more than I 867 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: think maybe he would, you know, at the next level 868 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: if if given the right opportunity, last one I've got 869 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: for you. We we've spent obviously a ton of time 870 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh over the last months weeks discussing who's gonna 871 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: be the next QB one. You know, when you're having 872 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: that conversation for the first time in nearly two decades, 873 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: you also have to replace your general manager for the 874 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: first time in two decades. Lewis Riddick, a guy who's 875 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: in that conversation, a guy who you know and spend 876 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: time with. What would make him a good general man 877 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, even yesterday on NFL Live. 878 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: We had at Lewis on the show. Oh and I'm 879 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: just constantly impressed by his breadth of knowledge of prospects 880 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: of the league, the connections, understanding so many things that 881 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: that really allow you to say, here's how you build 882 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: a team, right And um, you know, it's not that 883 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers are in any sort of rebuilding mode, but 884 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: I think just find this incredible brand in the NFL 885 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: and a team that is always at the center of 886 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: what we care about in the league, right. I mean, 887 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: if you think about big name teams, and Steelers are 888 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: always there. And I think he understands and respects that 889 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: and obviously knows the area well, which which I believe 890 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: as a leader of an organization, leader of a franchise, 891 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: that is a key piece. And Louis is just somebody 892 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: to who gets what matters, right like co acting to 893 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: the players and and making them feel valued and also 894 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: understanding the business side of things and certainly prioritizing that. 895 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, even to like his time 896 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football and over these past few years 897 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: of you know, talking to all these different teams, those 898 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: meetings that I've filled in on a few of those 899 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: games for Lisa Assaulters on the sideline. Those are in 900 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: depth meetings and you're getting ton information around league's almost 901 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: it's almost like the best possible preparation you can sum. Yeah, 902 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: you know more. You know that a lot of these 903 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: guys would ever be at the table to know because 904 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: they've been with their team or they've been you know, 905 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: in a different role. So um, I hope the best 906 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: for Lewis. Obviously we don't want to lose him at ESPN, 907 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: but I think he would be an incredible general manager. 908 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: We are up, it gets to break here. We have 909 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: got to uh to go. 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