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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up. Welcome to a special edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. It's been your man NAMG

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant alongside Graham Barfield. Welcome to Indianapolis. Yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been fun. It's been interesting. Right. India is definitely

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Speaker 1: an interesting, very cool, niche city, right, and I've seen

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Speaker 1: most of it from like interior walkaways, which is great. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got here. It was snowing. When I

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Speaker 1: immediately walked out and it starts snowing. So I just

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Speaker 1: I just figured I brought the snow. I mean, right, So,

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Speaker 1: so far, so good. We are here, obviously, at Lucas

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Speaker 1: Oil Stadium for the NFL Scouting Combine. Day one was

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Speaker 1: on Friday, as we finished as we record this, they

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Speaker 1: are just finishing up down there on the field, and

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Speaker 1: it was offensive linemen and running backs. For our purposes,

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Speaker 1: we were more interested in the running backs obviously, So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about that. We'll kind of

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Speaker 1: do a brief look ahead to what is coming on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: when a whole slew of fantasy relevant positions are working out.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let's do some news. Well, the

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Speaker 1: most fantasy relevant news coming out of the Combine on

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Speaker 1: Friday was about Kyler Murray. And I said a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago that if you haven't heard his name

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Speaker 1: too much already, you will have heard it too much

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Speaker 1: by the time we get to draft day. So it

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Speaker 1: sucks more about Kyler Murray, shall we? Uh? He does

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Speaker 1: not plan to work out here at the Combine. He

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Speaker 1: is here. In fact, as we record this podcast, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the monitors here in our booth and I

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Speaker 1: see him at the podium taking questions. Uh so, Graham,

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Speaker 1: he's just kind of here for interviews. He's not running,

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Speaker 1: he's not throwing, he's not doing any workouts. He's just

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Speaker 1: you know, chatting up and maybe some shrimp cocktail at St. Elmo's.

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Speaker 1: I kind of get it. I mean I kind of

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Speaker 1: get it. I mean, you just come, come and hang

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Speaker 1: out and meet with these teams. Now, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: does he have to prove? What do these quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: it's Murray. It's a one to race and what are

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Speaker 1: what are they going to prove that they haven't already.

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing he proved actually was on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and it had nothing to do with his athleticism. It

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Speaker 1: was when he measured in. I mean, you know, he

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Speaker 1: ends up measuring a little bit above five ten, which

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Speaker 1: And his hand size was bigger than nine inches, which

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Speaker 1: a lot of the questions about whether or not he

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Speaker 1: has the size to make it in the NFL, I

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Speaker 1: think for the moment at least those are quieted just

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Speaker 1: because he is. His numbers came out better. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's what everybody was waiting on. Two is the

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Speaker 1: hand size. And I know there's quite a few studies

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Speaker 1: have shown hand size matters. There's been some that's shown

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. But as long as it's not like my hands,

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Speaker 1: I did see it. Really enter stinking fact from Joe Goodberry,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Bengals um Kyler Murray's wingspan was twenty

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Speaker 1: eight inches Okay from side to side. But it's the

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Speaker 1: shortest in combine history. Wow. Yeah, zero zero percentile in

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Speaker 1: just I thought it was interesting. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 1: he's just such a peculiar and very interesting case study

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Speaker 1: he's very much going to be a case study, whether

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Speaker 1: it's either he or Dwayne Haskins to see who's going

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Speaker 1: to be the number one quarterback. Currently, our own Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks has Dwayne Haskins just above Kyler Murray. But obviously

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Speaker 1: the rumors about him potentially going to Arizona and being

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Speaker 1: But we look forward to see what happens with that.

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Speaker 1: And that is pretty much everything you need to know,

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Speaker 1: all right. So the first day of workouts at the Combine,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned offensive lineman and running, I guess I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't overlook what punters and kickers as well. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: saw some punters running some pretty cool yeah, some pretty

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Speaker 1: like a four six, which that's not bad, that's better

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Speaker 1: jump right into it, right because obviously a big part

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Speaker 1: of the combine for the running backs, for everybody, but

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Speaker 1: But I think the overall takeaways at the forty times,

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Speaker 1: people anticipated. This is a really disappointed running back class.

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Speaker 1: I think from a lot of different angles. I think

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Speaker 1: this is There's nothing There's nothing else bad that ever

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Speaker 1: But Marcus He's only caught seven balls total from Georgia's

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Speaker 1: I know he is here, he's doing interviews. But I

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Speaker 1: know you said you think he's one of the wild

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Speaker 1: cards here too. Bryce Love is the wild card of

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