Speaker 1: First of all, I apologize my voice.
Speaker 2: I'm sick again or still I should say still been
Speaker 2: like six weeks. Whatever rider had that was never going away.
Speaker 1: Now I got it.
Speaker 2: I actually got it on a plane. And I think
Speaker 2: when you get something on a plane, it just socks.
Speaker 3: In, yeah, and doesn't go away. It's a clinger, it is.
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there, depending which which of
Speaker 2: those you look at. I have another etiquette question.
Speaker 3: Did somebody else break into your house?
Speaker 2: No? No, that was I think I think we've we've
Speaker 2: we've heard from many people that I was, in fact
Speaker 2: right and that was the breach of etiquette. I'm going
Speaker 2: to start calling this little section Will's etiquette corner.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to do that at all. Sunday Sunday. See,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. No, I just want to hear
Speaker 1: a butler go, you're welcome.
Speaker 2: How many free samples are too many free samples?
Speaker 4: I think if you have to go for like multiple toothpicks,
Speaker 4: like you should just take one toothpick.
Speaker 5: You can't, like, you know, if.
Speaker 4: If it's set out on like a plate and there's yeah,
Speaker 4: you only take one.
Speaker 3: Okay, But at a time, what if you take one,
Speaker 3: and you discussion store, and you go back and then
Speaker 3: you do more. Here, what point do you feel shame?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Do you buy the thing or not?
Speaker 1: Because if you want a question, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think there's lots of factors
Speaker 3: to this.
Speaker 1: Here's the question.
Speaker 2: So Susan and I, you know, are redoing our kitchen
Speaker 2: and there is a big sale up the street at
Speaker 2: a big appliance store and.
Speaker 3: You were eating tile worse than that.
Speaker 2: Once a year they do this big sample, this big sale,
Speaker 2: and there's all this food around, I.
Speaker 1: Mean plates of everything you can imagine from.
Speaker 3: Wait, what store are you at? I mean the store.
Speaker 1: It's an appliant store.
Speaker 3: An appliant store, and they samples of food.
Speaker 2: Once a year they do this massive private sale quote
Speaker 2: unquote private sale that everybody knows about, and people literally
Speaker 2: line up and like to the point where when we
Speaker 2: first walked in, there's a guy handing out pieces of
Speaker 2: filet mignon.
Speaker 3: What And we're like, because they've brilled them on their.
Speaker 2: Bills, yes, correctly, So they use the big green egg
Speaker 2: to make it. And so the guy's like, hey, would
Speaker 2: you like some flame mignon? And I was like Uh, yes,
Speaker 2: so Sue and I of course eat that. Then we
Speaker 2: walk in it and there's people walking around with ladders,
Speaker 2: there's cookies.
Speaker 1: Now something else you need to know about my wife.
Speaker 1: She cannot say no to free food.
Speaker 3: I know, to the point.
Speaker 2: Where there's times I will look over at her and
Speaker 2: she looks green and she's eating something.
Speaker 1: They go, baby, what are you doing? She's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's free. I can't I can't not.
Speaker 2: But we were talking to the guy at this place
Speaker 2: who said that he that several people come to this
Speaker 2: thing every year with bags in their purses to load
Speaker 2: up the free food.
Speaker 1: And walk away too much free samples. Where do you go?
Speaker 2: Is it when you start bringing bags in? Are you
Speaker 2: in a whole different levels?
Speaker 3: How do you put a toothpick with toothpick with a
Speaker 3: piece of steak on it in a bag?
Speaker 2: They had sandwiches, pieces of pizza, they had desserts cooking.
Speaker 3: Together in a bag. Tupperware.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea, bring me tupperware.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little I don't know. I think that's
Speaker 3: I think that's I mean, honestly, it sounds like you
Speaker 3: may need it, Like if you have to bring a
Speaker 3: bag to a sample sale to load up. Then you
Speaker 3: might struggling, you might need the food, and I'm not
Speaker 3: I am not here to judge that if you do
Speaker 3: not need the food and you're just like, oh, they
Speaker 3: offer it for free, and here's my chance to take advantage. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's what.
Speaker 1: He alluded to. It was more that I thought.
Speaker 3: We were having a normal discussion, which was like, what
Speaker 3: if I wanted three samples, that's the same thing, and.
Speaker 2: Then we're in Costco sweatshirt. I mean, that's the best
Speaker 2: part of going to Costco is the sample.
Speaker 3: One of the best carts of going to samp of
Speaker 3: Costco is the samples. Another best part is that I
Speaker 3: can get my pap smear, I can get my eye exam,
Speaker 3: I can get my tires rotated, and you can buy
Speaker 3: it often the same place at the same time. So
Speaker 3: that's that's the other best part of Costco. Big supporters
Speaker 3: of Costco here, two of two of the three.
Speaker 2: Of the two of the three of us exactly, we
Speaker 2: want to sell our show in bulk, so we want
Speaker 2: to do Did you.
Speaker 3: End up buying any appliances for your kitchen Rhno, we.
Speaker 2: Bought all the appliances for our RAH we're officially in
Speaker 2: it now.
Speaker 1: We bought it was it was a little crazy pants.
Speaker 1: We got everything then you can take home, Yeah you're allowed.
Speaker 2: We were yes, No, we got a we got a fridge,
Speaker 2: we got a we've got a dishwasher. We got to
Speaker 2: bring bring the tupperware. Yeah, we and we got a
Speaker 2: new a new hood vent for our thing. Like where
Speaker 2: we doing my Our kitchen is almost thirty years old.
Speaker 1: Wow, to the.
Speaker 2: Point where when you go and open a cabinet the
Speaker 2: door will come off in your hand if you don't.
Speaker 3: It is it must be so exciting.
Speaker 1: She's ecstatic, she's etatic. Yeah, how did it go?
Speaker 3: There was also a little brew haha with your contractor
Speaker 3: and the bids. How did that?
Speaker 1: Which was the brew ha?
Speaker 3: We were at dinner in Vegas and you got the
Speaker 3: bid back and it had like jumped up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2: That's that's it's like, oh, wait, you you want us
Speaker 2: to actually do.
Speaker 1: It, you don't just want to talk about it?
Speaker 6: Well, and you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah that cabin Yeah, we got We did our due
Speaker 2: diligence because we don't normally do that. We got five
Speaker 2: different bids from people, all from recommendations from people that
Speaker 2: we know that have used them, and we ended up
Speaker 2: going with producer Tara's guy Wow, which is which is great.
Speaker 1: So we're we're very happy. We're excited to have It's.
Speaker 2: Everything we always joke in our house, whenever anything is
Speaker 2: done built, put in any of that stuff, you will
Speaker 2: invariably hear from the other room, the plumber, the electricians,
Speaker 2: somebody go, huh, never seen this before. So because the
Speaker 2: guy who built our house just did it himself, so
Speaker 2: it's there's not really a right angle anywhere. So it's
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see. This is what we say
Speaker 2: it's gonna cost. But now that we're in there, it's like.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you used live ducks to make this wall.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this before, so exactly, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: see how this goes.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for this to be the reason you
Speaker 3: end up hating Tara, you know, and you just get
Speaker 3: to blame Tara. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, so whole
Speaker 3: podcast will explode, I think so to.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to see.
Speaker 2: But as long as we have access to free samples,
Speaker 2: I'm good, So we'll be fine.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna have a sample sale when like when
Speaker 4: you're right, We'll come over and get.
Speaker 1: You guys, taste all the food, do all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I figure I'm getting ready because Ryder hosted the
Speaker 2: last Pod Meets World party.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I'll host the next one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 5: Amazing, We'll get that.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right
Speaker 3: or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. It's almost time to go
Speaker 3: back on the road.
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: Are your bags packed?
Speaker 5: You rode to go?
Speaker 4: I actually have no plan yet living around and the
Speaker 4: van again or I mean like yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, this is late in the game.
Speaker 4: The van well for certain parts you know, like what
Speaker 4: you know, what's funny is like uh San Francisco, Like
Speaker 4: I already have like ten people coming, like yeah, all
Speaker 4: like everyone from my hometown and you know, all old
Speaker 4: friends are going to be around. So I got a
Speaker 4: lot of people want to come to the San Francisco show,
Speaker 4: which will be great. Portland I'm super excited about. I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people there too, But yeah, those
Speaker 4: but that section, like the West Coast, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: already going to in Portland for a period before that,
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we might just end up vanning it
Speaker 4: again for the west coast.
Speaker 5: The yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Northwest will and I will travel buddies it up again.
Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I just want to kick this cold because I don't
Speaker 2: want to be on the road with these allergy cold things, because.
Speaker 3: No, you've got to get that, You've got to get
Speaker 3: get rid of that.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my best.
Speaker 6: Been six weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, where are we going? Exactly?
Speaker 3: Okay? So first we start in Denver, Colorado on June fourth,
Speaker 3: Then we are in Phoenix, Arizona on June fifth, and
Speaker 3: June sixth we are in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then gosh right back in June June nineteenth and twentieth,
Speaker 3: we are in Columbus, Ohio, and then Las Vegas, baby
Speaker 3: at the Palazzo, and you know me gonna be so excited.
Speaker 3: And then in July July eleventh we are in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 3: July thirteenth, Seattle, Washington. So excited about that little Pacific
Speaker 3: North Leg, Pacific Northwest Leg. And then we finish it
Speaker 3: off in July July twenty fifth and the twenty seventh,
Speaker 3: that in San Francisco and then in Sacramento, so very
Speaker 3: excited about that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't get I can't get the phrase Pacific
Speaker 2: North leg out of my head.
Speaker 1: I just want to know what a Pacific like. I get. Dude,
Speaker 1: I gave her a Pacific North leg the other night.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Why is it going to go some dirty
Speaker 1: always does, always does.
Speaker 3: Hi, I'm will it's a good chicken order Pacific North leg.
Speaker 1: Danielle always goes for food.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course it's actually it's a crab leg, right, Like,
Speaker 5: just grab Pacific North leg.
Speaker 3: You take a Pacific North leg. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: Anyway, if you have not already gotten your tickets, you
Speaker 3: can go to Podmeats Worldshow dot com and click the
Speaker 3: city you are interested in seeing us in. I highly
Speaker 3: suggest Vegas cause you you want to come to all
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 5: You know, I want some costumes. Come on the West coast.
Speaker 5: Let's bring out the costumes. I have some stiff competition
Speaker 5: from the rest of the country. You got to bring it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 1: fun to be on the road again. It really is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be we we It's a lot, but it's
Speaker 1: it's all. It's mostly laughing laughing and travels on stage laughing, laughing,
Speaker 1: and travels.
Speaker 3: Bringing you on stage to join us for that thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta get my scripts out. I gotta out
Speaker 2: the scripts for people who win.
Speaker 3: You got to get those original Boy Meets World scripts
Speaker 3: out if we signed. Those are the prizes for whoever
Speaker 3: wins the costume contest. We also have some BTS footage
Speaker 3: we share and some you know, funny stories. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a really good time. Come out and meet us.
Speaker 3: Tickets available now at Pod Meets worldshow dot com. Over
Speaker 3: the past few seasons of our rewatch, we have waxed
Speaker 3: poetic about the relationships of the show, whether it's Corey
Speaker 3: and Tapanga, Sean and Angela, Alannamy, even Cory and Lauren.
Speaker 3: But we've noticed and rightfully pointed out the disappointment of
Speaker 3: Eric never having a companion of his own. Sure, he
Speaker 3: couldn't stop talking to girls on the phone in season one,
Speaker 3: and we all like to point out that Jack and
Speaker 3: Eric were actually together in subtext, But that golden retriever
Speaker 3: of a human being had a big heart and he
Speaker 3: should have been able to share it with a real storyline.
Speaker 3: But maybe we've been looking at it all wrong. Maybe
Speaker 3: Eric was given someone to express that love to, and
Speaker 3: unfortunately it was just a three episode arc that involved
Speaker 3: the possible adoption of a young orphan. Eric may have
Speaker 3: been too young and inexperienced to accept that possibility then,
Speaker 3: But this week we reunite Tommy and Eric for one
Speaker 3: last shot at family. Our guest made his TV debut,
Speaker 3: appearing on legendary sitcoms Frasier and Mad About You, then
Speaker 3: making stops on Party of Five and Veronica's Closet before
Speaker 3: he landed on Boy Meets World at just eight years old.
Speaker 3: He may not have been on the show for long,
Speaker 3: but he became a cult favorite for fans to wonder
Speaker 3: what if Eric did take the jump and adopt a son.
Speaker 3: He'd act for a few more years, popping up on Buffy,
Speaker 3: the Vampire Slayer, Grounded for Life, Touched by an Angel,
Speaker 3: to name a few shows, but then he'd retire, dropping
Speaker 3: out around two thousand and five, walking away from Hollywood
Speaker 3: for good, well kind of for good, minus one constantly
Speaker 3: posted appearance on Girl Meets World over fifteen years after
Speaker 3: he first originated the character. So what is Tommy up
Speaker 3: to now? What's life been like since he walked away
Speaker 3: from the industry. It's time to find out. This week
Speaker 3: on Pod Meets World, we talked to the former actor
Speaker 3: who may have been the true love of Eric's life.
Speaker 3: It's forever our Tommy JB. Gaynor yaw are you?
Speaker 6: I'm good?
Speaker 3: So good to see you. Man. It seems crazy that
Speaker 3: I guess it.
Speaker 6: Was second was it? Come on?
Speaker 1: That can't be ten years ago that we say.
Speaker 4: Indy wasn't born yet, Man, Like, that's no, come on,
Speaker 4: that's wrong on soil levels.
Speaker 5: I can't believe that.
Speaker 3: I know it's so it's so crazy, uh GB. We
Speaker 3: are so happy to have you here.
Speaker 6: For the past.
Speaker 3: I find we have one of the more difficult people
Speaker 3: for us to trap down. And I would like to
Speaker 3: take this moment to give a special thank you to
Speaker 3: Barbie Block, who is the reason we were able to
Speaker 3: find you. She I sent her an email and she
Speaker 3: was like, let me look into it, and eventually within
Speaker 3: like forty eight hours, I think we had had reached
Speaker 3: out to you.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: She's the greatest. So thank you, Barbie. Uh So, we
Speaker 3: just watched your first episode of Boy Meets World, Santa's
Speaker 3: Little Helper, But by that point in your life, you
Speaker 3: had already been on quite a few classic TV shows, Frasier,
Speaker 3: Mad About You, Party of Five. Did you get into
Speaker 3: acting at seven years old?
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was my sister. My sister got into acting first,
Speaker 6: and she was actually on Wonder Years. Oh so it
Speaker 6: was It was super crazy because then I was on
Speaker 6: Boding to twelve have been right? Yeah, she was. She
Speaker 6: was on Wonder Years. She was on an episode she's on.
Speaker 6: I forgot what episode it was, like, I forgot. I
Speaker 6: think he was dating some girl and she was one
Speaker 6: of the sisters or something.
Speaker 3: Okay, And so how much older is your sister than you?
Speaker 6: She's eight years older.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, eight years older. So you were seven she was
Speaker 3: like fifteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So she was my lines. She was always reading
Speaker 6: me my lines and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: She was really fun. And were you going to a
Speaker 3: traditional school at the time or were you home school?
Speaker 3: Was your schooling situation?
Speaker 6: I was pretty I was in public school pretty much
Speaker 6: all my life. And okay, so like maybe fifth grade
Speaker 6: through seventh grade, I was working a lot, so I
Speaker 6: was home, but yeah, I was in public schoobs. I
Speaker 6: lived pretty much a double life. I would go out
Speaker 6: there in Hollywood, and then I would come back here
Speaker 6: and I would just put with my friends play sports outside.
Speaker 6: And yes, I was living like two double double life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were the you were the o G. Hannah Montana.
Speaker 1: Just put a j even though it's no one, he
Speaker 1: takes off the glasses.
Speaker 6: Who is it?
Speaker 3: What was the set of Fraser like for a seven
Speaker 3: year old? I don't think of that show as being
Speaker 3: a show that had a lot of kids.
Speaker 2: It was not.
Speaker 6: That one was not very welcoming really really, it was
Speaker 6: a lot of they didn't have kids, so it was
Speaker 6: a lot of cussing, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: you know, it was just very high intensity and I
Speaker 6: just went in there. I'm glad I just had a
Speaker 6: little part because I just went in there. I did it.
Speaker 6: I got out. But yeah, that was the one that
Speaker 6: was the more unenjoyable that I was on. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: I mean it's still Frasier. So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So one of the greatest shows of all time. But wow,
Speaker 3: not not exactly a warm and fuzzy memory for you,
Speaker 3: for sure. Do you remember your audition for Boy Meets World?
Speaker 6: I honestly, I don't remember my audition, but I remember
Speaker 6: everything else. I just remember Michael Jacobs liked me because
Speaker 6: I looked kind of like his son. Okay, he said, yeah,
Speaker 6: you look kind of like my son. That's the reason
Speaker 6: why I give you the part.
Speaker 1: Sounds about right.
Speaker 5: I love that he just said that to you. It's
Speaker 5: not your talent, it's.
Speaker 6: Just you're not that great. It's just you look like
Speaker 6: my son.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when when you first auditioned, was it
Speaker 2: supposed to be just a one off?
Speaker 1: Or were did you was the one?
Speaker 6: It was a one off? But I watched Boys World
Speaker 6: when I was younger, Like we watched IF that was
Speaker 6: one of my shows, and so I was so like,
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it was just kind of
Speaker 6: the vibe and I just went into it like with
Speaker 6: a good energy and they wanted me back, I guess.
Speaker 6: So that was that was awesome.
Speaker 3: So you were a fan of the show even before
Speaker 3: you auditioned, which is amazing. Do you remember if the
Speaker 3: connection that your sister had been on Wonder years and
Speaker 3: now you were was that discussed?
Speaker 6: Was that talking was discussed when? Because remember uh Fred
Speaker 6: had the TV show on at the same studio right
Speaker 6: on the right, Yeah, and he's yeah CBS Radford, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: and he's so he came over and he said hi
Speaker 6: to my sister and stuff like that. But yeah, that
Speaker 6: was funny. That was pretty crazy. Small.
Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you met Will Yeah.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was like it was like meeting my big brother.
Speaker 6: I remember when you did everything together. We would go out,
Speaker 6: we would go we would do everything. I was falling
Speaker 6: around like a little.
Speaker 1: We got a lot. I just remember we got along
Speaker 1: really really well, really well. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then and then you were Batman Batmans Forever.
Speaker 1: Or Batman Behind Right, Batman Beyondy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so that was like my one of my
Speaker 6: favorite shows too. So I was like, it was cool.
Speaker 5: You were a dream.
Speaker 3: So explain to me when you let's talk about you
Speaker 3: guys going to lunch together? Was it who was on
Speaker 3: set with you? You mentioned your sister.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my mom would always be there. My mom. My
Speaker 6: mom was my angel. She would take me everywhere she was.
Speaker 6: She was always there for me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so you your mom and then sometimes your sister.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, my sister would come and read lines with
Speaker 6: me and stuff like that. She always helped me out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'ld always get lunch at that you know that
Speaker 6: cafeteria that that was on the CBS. Yeah, but it
Speaker 6: was it was pretty cool. That was super fun.
Speaker 3: Well, do you remember thinking, like, this is a care
Speaker 3: this is a kid I'm supposed to have a close
Speaker 3: bond with. I want to in our downtime also develop
Speaker 3: that bond. Do you remember thinking that or did you
Speaker 3: just know?
Speaker 1: I wish I was the actor at that point, was
Speaker 1: to develop the bond. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, to me, it was like, well, I'm getting lunch
Speaker 2: and he's getting lunch cigarette And we got along very
Speaker 2: very exactly. Yeah, not quite, but no, we got along
Speaker 2: really well. And you were fun to hang out with,
Speaker 2: and I knew you were kind of a like me.
Speaker 2: You were a kind of a comic book nerd, a
Speaker 2: little bit of a superhero nerd, and so we would
Speaker 2: talk about stuff like that, and uh yeah. It was
Speaker 2: also just it was very strange because it was you
Speaker 2: didn't know what Eric was going to be from week
Speaker 2: to week, and so now it was like, yeah, Michael's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Eric might adopt a kid, like what, so you just.
Speaker 1: He never knew when it's.
Speaker 2: Like okay, now all of a sudden, he's a you know,
Speaker 2: I remember him specifically telling me like, Oh, it's going
Speaker 2: to be an emotional arc and it's going to be
Speaker 2: a you know, a good kind of run for you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, great, no problem, h And Eric
Speaker 2: is a kid, so Eric with the kid just works.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just It's one of those things we
Speaker 2: saw also with the the single mom episode. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the name of that that episode Uncle Daddy, Uncle Daddy,
Speaker 2: but the I mean it just worked. And then JB
Speaker 2: came in and I didn't. That's why because we saw
Speaker 2: the first one with the with the where Eric was
Speaker 2: Santa Claus, your first episode ever, and that's why I was.
Speaker 1: When I rewatched it, I was like, huh, I wonder
Speaker 1: if this was supposed to be the only episode with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was only I went off, which
Speaker 2: is so strange because it's what two episodes later is
Speaker 2: the is the arc?
Speaker 1: So had they not arked out the season.
Speaker 2: Had they not written two episodes ahead already, and they
Speaker 2: and they just rewrote everything. I'm curious to know how
Speaker 2: that came about because that's a pretty massive change because
Speaker 2: I think we're the a story in at least one
Speaker 2: if not, we will be upcoming episodes. Yeah yeah, So
Speaker 2: if they hadn't planned that. I'm really curious to see
Speaker 2: how they want to.
Speaker 1: Pull it off.
Speaker 3: Possible that it was only going to be a second
Speaker 3: episode and it wasn't going to involve the kid again.
Speaker 3: It was just going to be Eric determined to adopt
Speaker 3: a child, and it was going to be Eric having
Speaker 3: those conversations. But maybe we weren't going to see Tommy again.
Speaker 3: But once was Once JB was so good and your
Speaker 3: chemistry was so great, it was like, we've got to
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 2: Was it was a Bludman bus Gang episode, wasn't it
Speaker 2: when that not not Uncle Daddy, but are not to
Speaker 2: the Santa Claus one? But I think the next one
Speaker 2: because then Mark is the one who brought the Tommy
Speaker 2: character back for Girl Meet World and bus Gang were gone,
Speaker 2: And I wonder why it was Bludman that brought Tommy
Speaker 2: back because he called me.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm bringing Tommy back. I'm so excited.
Speaker 6: I thought he was there because I remember seeing him.
Speaker 6: I remember seeing Mark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, very strange, but yeah,
Speaker 2: when they told me you were coming back from Girl
Speaker 2: Me Trill, I was like, we're going to get to.
Speaker 3: Girl Get there, a chance. Yeah, do you remember do
Speaker 3: you remember meeting any any of the other cast members
Speaker 3: or what are some of your favorite memories.
Speaker 6: I remember I liked writer, but right it was very
Speaker 6: very quiet, you know, cordial. I just always said hi
Speaker 6: to him. But you were you were one of the
Speaker 6: people that that i'cated towards two because you're just so sweet.
Speaker 3: Actually, it was very maternal.
Speaker 1: I actually have a.
Speaker 6: Picture, I don't see it, and it's the same sweater
Speaker 6: that you're wearing in that episode.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet. I loved, loved, loved kids, and
Speaker 3: so anytime there was a young kid on the set,
Speaker 3: I took it upon myself to be it was my
Speaker 3: duty to make sure I was their little friend. So
Speaker 3: I remember having a blast with you for sure. Do
Speaker 3: you remember, JB. Did you watch your episodes when they aired?
Speaker 3: Did you have a watch party?
Speaker 6: I didn't watch it when it aired, but I've watched
Speaker 6: it a lot growing up because all my friends always
Speaker 6: always say, hey, look, did you see this episode? They
Speaker 6: always they always do it whenever they meet new people.
Speaker 6: They're always like, this guy was on TV and I'm like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, that's so cute.
Speaker 3: But you were a fan of the show before you
Speaker 3: were cast on it. So why do you remember why
Speaker 3: you didn't?
Speaker 6: I don't. I didn't like watching myself, oh even that young. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because I was a very nervous person. So I would
Speaker 6: see things that I would do that that it was
Speaker 6: like my nervous little twitches. In the new episode, I
Speaker 6: would play with my hand. In the second episode, I
Speaker 6: would play with my hands, and they get that on screen.
Speaker 6: So I was like, I don't want to watch that.
Speaker 6: I do like little things that that I knew that
Speaker 6: wasn't right, and so I didn't like watching myself.
Speaker 1: It's such an actor thing. You pick up on these
Speaker 1: little things.
Speaker 2: Writer and I have had conversations about this all the time,
Speaker 2: little facial ticks or I always do this when I'm
Speaker 2: gonna or something like my hair thing.
Speaker 1: Had the hair thing two seasons.
Speaker 2: I'm soda can every time I watch. I mean, we
Speaker 2: have all these little kiss that we do that you
Speaker 2: just and but again, I think it adds to the character.
Speaker 2: Frankly doesn't even notice it's your nervous take.
Speaker 3: They just think it's part of the character.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: That's so amazing though, that even at eight you were
Speaker 2: already self conscious to the point where you were like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch myself.
Speaker 6: I started when I was five, so I was already
Speaker 6: in it pretty for Like, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Were like, who is this frasy guy? Anyway?
Speaker 6: Come on?
Speaker 3: Do you remember what the process was for you learning
Speaker 3: your lines or memorizing your lines?
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was so easy back then. Yeah, but when
Speaker 6: I did Girl, it was so much harder.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I had that monologue and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: I don't do it. And then poor Rusty was trying
Speaker 6: to coach me through it, and I was like, I
Speaker 6: can't do it.
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't keep doing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a muscle, you lose it, you know.
Speaker 6: Like I was thinking about that because my son's doing.
Speaker 4: Plays now and he memorizes thinks so quick, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: that's right. When you're younger, brain just.
Speaker 5: Doesn't like wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then why didn't that Why did that not translate
Speaker 1: to me in school?
Speaker 2: Why can I always remember dialogue but I couldn't remember Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's like it was so strange.
Speaker 6: I can remember lyrics to every songs and then I
Speaker 6: can't remember history lessons exactly.
Speaker 3: So the episode we have seen of yours the Santa's
Speaker 3: Little Helper episode, you are dealing with will or Eric
Speaker 3: as Santa Claus. Was that at all confusing for an
Speaker 3: eight year old?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Because Claus.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so somebody else puts all the gifts under
Speaker 1: the tree JB.
Speaker 3: Santa Geez Okay, so that thankfully no one had to
Speaker 3: explain that to you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, it was you know, I think I
Speaker 6: did it. I already did another another show where I
Speaker 6: was a Christmas episode and I had to sit on
Speaker 6: Santa's lab in that in that episode.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 6: No, that was Crez you same thing. Kelsey Grammar was
Speaker 6: actually the Santa Claus.
Speaker 3: A bit of a different Santa.
Speaker 6: Kid.
Speaker 1: I was gonna play the lap pick.
Speaker 3: Since the time that you had been on Boy Meets World,
Speaker 3: Tommy has lived on and become a bit of cult folklore.
Speaker 3: Was Tommy always the character you were most recognized for?
Speaker 3: Or has it just been that way over the last
Speaker 3: couple of years?
Speaker 6: It was that one in George Lopez.
Speaker 1: Those are the two.
Speaker 6: Those are the two ones that I would get recognized for.
Speaker 3: What did you play on the George Lopez Show?
Speaker 6: I was Ricky. I was actually supposed to be in
Speaker 6: one off for that one too, and was in like
Speaker 6: four or five episodes. I was like the kid, Yeah,
Speaker 6: the kid I left the garage. What I know? Right,
Speaker 6: that was my only bad role.
Speaker 1: I was always a.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You were always tugging at heart strings and now now
Speaker 3: you were blowing up garages. Oh man, okay, serious question here.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you think Eric should have adopted Tommy?
Speaker 6: Of course, of course to California at that time?
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, Eric, of course Eric wasn't right. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's one of the things.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the actual dialogue of the episode, but
Speaker 2: I remember specifically the episode I think it's your last episode, JB,
Speaker 2: where I remember thinking that it was really well written.
Speaker 2: Again it maybe maybe it doesn't hould up. I think
Speaker 2: it does though, where it was it's that's the whole
Speaker 2: point is it's like, I know, you love the kid,
Speaker 2: but he's a family wants to move him to California
Speaker 2: and start a family. I mean, it's just it was
Speaker 2: the right thing to do, was let him go, and
Speaker 2: for the first time in boy Mets world, they did
Speaker 2: what was right and that what love dictated, which was yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: so no, I I yeah, I mean it would have
Speaker 2: been great but Eric got Eric wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: Eric wasn't ready. By Girl Meets World time, Eric wasn't ready.
Speaker 5: Could have been a spin off, could have been a
Speaker 5: spin offs.
Speaker 3: The family was the Mansons, so you know.
Speaker 1: Exactly, in all fairness, they were very close.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, yeah, that's that was. I distinctly remember
Speaker 1: that episode.
Speaker 2: And I remember having to say goodbye to JB too,
Speaker 2: because we we bonded over the three weeks we were
Speaker 2: together and we had a lot of fun together, and
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 6: I actually cried in that episode kind of because I
Speaker 6: was actually just so sadly that it wasn't even in
Speaker 6: the script, but I I just I was sad. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was a sad episode for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well so you were you were able to cry.
Speaker 2: I was not. And I remember Michael came up to
Speaker 2: me and you went, hey, can I talk to you
Speaker 2: for a second. I wait, you so, uh you can't cry?
Speaker 1: And I went on cue like that.
Speaker 2: No, He's like, all right, just try to sell it, like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that can't cry.
Speaker 1: No, it was not in my repertoire at the time.
Speaker 1: I'm made of stone, I don't. I just yeah, so
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'll never forget that.
Speaker 3: He's just like, all right, just sell it, all right,
Speaker 3: just sell it. That's your thank you.
Speaker 1: Here we go action.
Speaker 3: Well, after being on three episodes of Boy Meets World,
Speaker 3: you continued to work quite a bit. You were on
Speaker 3: Buffy the Vampire Slayer nine episodes have Grounded for Life,
Speaker 3: George Lopez, and then you retired around two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Tell us about that decision and what led to it.
Speaker 6: It was it's just of transition from a child actor
Speaker 6: to like getting older. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: You're talking about.
Speaker 6: Like once you when you're younger, it's easy to get
Speaker 6: all that criticism, it's so much easier to just let
Speaker 6: it roll off. And then when you get older, you
Speaker 6: start thinking about that criticism and what am I doing wrong?
Speaker 6: What's making yeah? Like, who am like? Why am I
Speaker 6: getting said no? All these times? You know, and it
Speaker 6: just kind of hurts you a little a little more
Speaker 6: as to get older, And I fell in love with golf,
Speaker 6: and I was just I just wanted to I just
Speaker 6: wanted to spend all my time doing that.
Speaker 3: And so tell us about your your love of golf.
Speaker 6: I honestly I started playing when I was ten, and
Speaker 6: I just loved it. It's it's just a nice getaway.
Speaker 6: You go out there, you have four or five hours
Speaker 6: just to just to clear your mind and just it's
Speaker 6: just fun. It's just I played in college and I
Speaker 6: played in high school. I played in the high school
Speaker 6: golf team. I played in college golf team, and it
Speaker 6: was it was just it's just a fun time.
Speaker 1: So are you gonna go pro?
Speaker 6: Nah? Probably it's I'm I'm close, but I'm not. I
Speaker 6: can't be that. I'm not that good.
Speaker 1: See that's what what what's not good?
Speaker 2: Like? What's your hit? Do you even handicapp or you
Speaker 2: don't even handy? You're a scratch golf. You're a scratch golfer. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's why you can say golf's just fun because you're
Speaker 2: a scratch golfer when you're somebody like me, I I
Speaker 2: it's the old saying that golf is a nice walk ruined,
Speaker 2: which is exactly what it is. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you hit the ball as far as you can, once
Speaker 2: you find it, put it in your pocket. Congratulations you
Speaker 2: found it, and then you got to hit it again.
Speaker 3: Where did you go to college? JB.
Speaker 6: I went to Citrus. A lot of my friends. Actually,
Speaker 6: a lot of my friends actually saw you at when
Speaker 6: you went to college and they were like, yeah, because
Speaker 6: I live right around there.
Speaker 1: So it's so fun.
Speaker 6: And I were like, I'm so scared to say hi
Speaker 6: to I was like, dude, she's nice, go say hi.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, do you know how amazing it would
Speaker 3: have And if somebody had come up to me and
Speaker 3: been like, hey, just want you to know I'm friends
Speaker 3: with JB a reason go say hello, Daniel.
Speaker 1: When did you when when you went to college? Where
Speaker 1: were you on the golf team?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: I have a two handicap, do you really Yeah, it's great, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: handicap two. People.
Speaker 2: I was going to say your two handicaps are your
Speaker 2: swing and that you don't own golf clubs. No.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that I actually love golf.
Speaker 3: And I golfed for years, uh every weekend, and I
Speaker 3: loved it. I never got anywhere close to being a
Speaker 3: scratch golfer, but I do understand the appeal of being
Speaker 3: outside for that long of just it being your You know,
Speaker 3: you're competing against yourself week after week, and even minor
Speaker 3: improvements that you see become big deals and feel you
Speaker 3: feel really accomplished so well.
Speaker 2: They say, you can have the worst round in the world.
Speaker 2: You get to the eighteenth hole, you hit one great,
Speaker 2: don't be back tomorrow.
Speaker 6: I love. That's really insanity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 3: What did your parents think when you made the decision
Speaker 3: that you wanted to back away from the entertainment industry?
Speaker 6: My mom loved me and in acting, but she didn't
Speaker 6: She wasn't She didn't force me to do it. So
Speaker 6: she would always say, do you still want to do this?
Speaker 6: Like every year she'd be like, do you still want
Speaker 6: to do this? And I'd be like, yes, yes, And
Speaker 6: that was the year that I said, Nah, I'm done.
Speaker 6: And I still I still auditioned a little bit, even
Speaker 6: up until like my mid twenties, but but I didn't.
Speaker 6: I only got like, I think one commercial when I
Speaker 6: was eighteen, and then that's that's about it. I just
Speaker 6: I just would go on auditions when casting directors would like,
Speaker 6: ask for me something like that, Right, That's that's all
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 3: Did your sister continue on?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 6: She was out when she was out early, like probably
Speaker 6: because it's harder for girls. It's way harder for girls.
Speaker 6: Boys is a lot easier girls. It's it's a lot
Speaker 6: tougher when you when you get a little older.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, there's a she was like.
Speaker 6: Thirteen or fourteen or something like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, do you at this point do you
Speaker 3: ever look back on it and miss it or are
Speaker 3: you perfectly comfortable with the choice.
Speaker 6: I miss. I miss being on set, that's yeah, that's
Speaker 6: the one. I don't miss auditioning. I know tell us
Speaker 6: and especially nowadays, because one of my friends got into
Speaker 6: acting later and he was having to tape himself and
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, that would be super awkward.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I could do that.
Speaker 3: I know now with self tape, you like, actors have
Speaker 3: to be casting directors, lighting technicians. You have to have
Speaker 3: a nice spot to record yourself in. You have to
Speaker 3: be an editor. It's like the amount of stuff you
Speaker 3: have to do, it feels okay.
Speaker 1: It's easier to be a golfer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can record. You can put yourself on tabe
Speaker 3: once or four or five hours. You can play a
Speaker 3: whole round exactly what you want to do. Yeah, geez,
Speaker 3: how many people in your life now, JB know that
Speaker 3: you were Tommy from Boy Meets World.
Speaker 6: Most of my friends because I I keep her on
Speaker 6: the same crew that I've been with since I was younger. Like,
Speaker 6: I've have some friends group and they love to say
Speaker 6: that I was on TV whenever we go.
Speaker 3: Does it ever help you?
Speaker 6: Guys?
Speaker 1: Do you ever?
Speaker 3: Do you forget anything? You ever get it?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: You ever seen Boy Meets World? You know who he is?
Speaker 6: Some free golf rounds in there.
Speaker 3: Let's get this guy some clubs. Yeah, get this guy
Speaker 3: a new set of clubs for sure. Will you have
Speaker 3: to do a signing with JB? I would be happy to.
Speaker 1: I'm just signed tiny little golf balls all the time.
Speaker 1: Just yes, kidding.
Speaker 2: I want to get my own set of clubs so
Speaker 2: it can really show you how to golf JB. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll show you. What's up, my friend. I'm a scratch golfer. Two.
Speaker 2: I'm just in the woods looking if my ball scratching
Speaker 2: because I'm being bitten by all the things.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, you will, all.
Speaker 3: Right, I think it's officially time that we talk about
Speaker 3: something very near and dear to our listener's hearts. Your
Speaker 3: return to Tommy on Girl Meets World. It was directed
Speaker 3: by the one and only writer Strong and Strong. How
Speaker 3: did that episode Come Together. What was the first What
Speaker 3: did you first hear JB about them wanting to bring
Speaker 3: you back?
Speaker 6: Honestly, my agent just called me and she was like, uh,
Speaker 6: I think they want to bring you back for Growing's World.
Speaker 6: I was all right, So I went on auditioned for it.
Speaker 6: I like auditioned to see if I was fine.
Speaker 1: You know, I just need to play yourself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, audition. It's not like they just wanted to see
Speaker 6: if I could read line right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I guess I did.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 3: That is so crazy? What a weird business? What if
Speaker 3: what if let's just say, what if he had a
Speaker 3: quote unquote bad audition? Were they just gonna scrap the
Speaker 3: whole idea?
Speaker 1: Or they would have recast They would.
Speaker 3: Absolutely imagine uproar if they had put like Timothy Shallow
Speaker 3: and Jbi's spot.
Speaker 5: I mean we did it all the time on Boy.
Speaker 4: We would recast people all the time, so you know,
Speaker 4: well sure on Boy Meets World.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about though, to like bring someone back in Girl,
Speaker 3: to be like, look at this, we got the person
Speaker 3: we were doing it with all the other characters, like,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone coming back.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind to.
Speaker 2: Get Seriously, by the end of Girl Meets World, we
Speaker 2: had both Lily and Lindsay on the show at the
Speaker 2: same time. I know, I think it was just like
Speaker 2: at that point, I mean yeah, because we you.
Speaker 4: Know, we also we brought Josh back, right, the brother
Speaker 4: and the completely yeah, and it was but he was right,
Speaker 4: he was like on the show a bunch. They had
Speaker 4: a whole love story on Girl to remember that, but
Speaker 4: it was but it was, you know, recast. It was
Speaker 4: a different actor than because Josh was played in the
Speaker 4: final episode by.
Speaker 3: Michael and Michael yeah the one who reminded him of.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 6: It was just really tough because I remember when they
Speaker 6: all came in and they were like, we don't like this,
Speaker 6: we don't like this. That's the only time I got,
Speaker 6: like yill that They're like, you're not doing it right.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I don't remember again, just even
Speaker 3: ten years ago, I don't remember the details, but I
Speaker 3: remember that it was so stressful.
Speaker 4: It was so rough because he had a whole monologue,
Speaker 4: Like I remember, it was like a big speech, yeah,
Speaker 4: big reveal, big speech, and like you know, it was
Speaker 4: supposed to be all this emotional stuff and it was like, wow, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're going right.
Speaker 5: Into the deep end of the pool here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was also it's like, hey, you know, sorry,
Speaker 2: you haven't been acting in years, you haven't done this
Speaker 2: in a while.
Speaker 1: Here's your three page bottologue. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I remember we were all because I was kind
Speaker 2: of in the same boat. I hadn't done it in
Speaker 2: a while either, So you and I were kind of like, all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's well this first episode back or second episodeisode.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, this was the you were.
Speaker 3: Can we refresh my memory on the episode you were?
Speaker 3: It's mister goes to washing Washing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Eric is a senator who's running for president. No,
Speaker 1: Eric eric is is a mayor.
Speaker 2: Is that he's the mayor of Saint up in Town
Speaker 2: and he's now running for Congress or senator senate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be a senator.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then and and his his the guy who says
Speaker 2: I'll take you under my wing as your political advisor,
Speaker 2: turns out to be.
Speaker 3: Tommy, right, And it's a big reveal that it's Tommy
Speaker 3: and Tommy sitting in the audience.
Speaker 2: And it's always Danielle's reveal that's always on the social
Speaker 2: media machine.
Speaker 3: The amount of people who think I was legitimately surprised.
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, how good at no what
Speaker 3: I remember? And apologies to write her and Shiloh because
Speaker 3: I'm back there chewing the scenery. I remember. The thing
Speaker 3: I remember the most is that we were trying, and
Speaker 3: by we, I mean us as a production. We're trying
Speaker 3: to get the background actors to give a facial reaction
Speaker 3: of like because they wanted the oh my gosh reveal.
Speaker 3: And so I remember there being so many guys when
Speaker 3: he says I can die, and I I just was like,
Speaker 3: I'll take everyone, I'll do it. Watch this, here you go,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, right.
Speaker 1: Over the shoulder shot.
Speaker 5: I just need you all to know.
Speaker 3: Would have been impossible for me to not know because
Speaker 3: I had been there all.
Speaker 5: To play it.
Speaker 3: Let's see weekend.
Speaker 2: It's awesome, but I'll see the I love how it's
Speaker 2: also though, like they're like, all right, everybody's got to
Speaker 2: be so shocked that this is Tommy.
Speaker 1: You prepair know that Eric almost adopted a kid years ago.
Speaker 5: I know, it's like, how are they?
Speaker 1: How are we shocked about?
Speaker 6: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can find it. Danielle, She's she's acting.
Speaker 3: It is so over the top of people.
Speaker 6: People believe it as that to it. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 6: everyone know. Everyone, everyone knew.
Speaker 5: I can't find it everything on search.
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
Speaker 5: I really want to see it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So did you tell your friends and family when
Speaker 3: you found out and you auditioned for your yourself, you
Speaker 3: found out your audition you learned the job again?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah everyone? Oh yeah, I told everyone else.
Speaker 1: My gosh, it was how old were you when you
Speaker 1: came back for Girmy World? And you were eight?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so it wasn't almost twenty years later.
Speaker 3: It was seventeen. Yeah, and now here we are ten
Speaker 3: years past then.
Speaker 1: We're old city, We're all old. You're still a child, sir.
Speaker 3: Tell me the details, please?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 3: Did you? I mean you mentioned it was a stressful week,
Speaker 3: and you remember being yelled at.
Speaker 1: Me, not by writer. This was tough for I remember
Speaker 1: this being tough for you writer.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was so stressful for all of us.
Speaker 5: It was like there was a lot of rusher for
Speaker 5: some reason.
Speaker 1: You know, it came out good, It was great, It
Speaker 1: came out right.
Speaker 3: Do you remember was that the first time you remember
Speaker 3: being yelled at?
Speaker 6: You never yelled at yelled at You were too young,
Speaker 6: I guess, but yeah, I was fine on Boarding World.
Speaker 6: But yeah, that was the first time I got yelled at.
Speaker 3: I am sure that this uh maybe already answers the
Speaker 3: question then, But did it give you the itch to
Speaker 3: go back?
Speaker 5: To? You getting yelled at it and told you everything
Speaker 5: wrong make you want to get back.
Speaker 6: You gave me to go back, but it may give
Speaker 6: me good memories to look back at.
Speaker 3: Okay, good. Did you feel like it was a nice
Speaker 3: button on the arc you started on Boy Meets World?
Speaker 3: Did it feel like there was a nice little bit
Speaker 3: of closure for Tommy?
Speaker 6: Definitely? I really, I really did. I'm glad that they
Speaker 6: brought me back just for you know, even though I
Speaker 6: was only in like what two episodes? Three?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 3: Three episodes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, three episodes, Like it was nice to feel part
Speaker 6: of the whole.
Speaker 1: Series, Well you did. I mean, the the the Tommy
Speaker 1: Eric storyline.
Speaker 2: To this day, at conventions and stuff like that, when
Speaker 2: people are talking about Eric, they talk about the Feenie call,
Speaker 2: they talk about plays with squirrels. Yeah, they talk about Tommy.
Speaker 2: I mean, those are the three things I get more
Speaker 2: than anything else. So there was something about the relationship
Speaker 2: between those two characters, and that three episode that just
Speaker 2: stuck with people. Yeah, I think so too. It was
Speaker 2: it was good and it was also Danielle was talking
Speaker 2: about this in the in the introduction. By this point,
Speaker 2: Eric was almost on an island, like they never really
Speaker 2: gave him a relationship of any kind, and so the
Speaker 2: one time that they do give him somebody to play
Speaker 2: off of really in any sort of relationship is like
Speaker 2: the son younger brother kind of vibe. And there was
Speaker 2: something too, you know, by this point in the series,
Speaker 2: we've talked about how the show is really separated by
Speaker 2: by the A story and the B story.
Speaker 1: There was really Corey, Sewan and Tapanga and Angela.
Speaker 2: What's going on in the A story and then Eric
Speaker 2: and Jack and Rachel and whatever's going on in the
Speaker 2: B story. And it's kind of maybe we have a
Speaker 2: scene in the student union where everybody's sitting together, but
Speaker 2: for the most part they're separated. So we haven't seen
Speaker 2: Eric and Corey together in kind of a brother capacity
Speaker 2: in a while.
Speaker 5: Now, God, that's true.
Speaker 1: So does he almost forget them?
Speaker 6: Relieved?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, and people really liked the dynamic of Eric and
Speaker 2: Corey together, especially when Corey was very young at the
Speaker 2: you know, season one and season two. So to kind
Speaker 2: of see Eric back in that older brother role with
Speaker 2: another young man is something I think people really gravitated
Speaker 2: towards because that's what people loved about Eric was the
Speaker 2: heart that he had when he was with Corey. So
Speaker 2: I think I think Tommy for three episodes kind of
Speaker 2: became the Corey surrogate, where it was it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're the older brother again.
Speaker 5: It was also just a chance for Eric because I
Speaker 5: mean that b story that you were a part of
Speaker 5: was so goofy most of the time comedy, and so
Speaker 5: to have a real, any sort of real moment, it's powerful.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It was kind of shocking I think for people, and
Speaker 5: great in a great way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. It was it was it's
Speaker 1: still mentioned all the time. People loved it.
Speaker 3: Well, we found the Girl Meets World clip.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, my name is t J. Murphy, Thomas Jonathan Murphy, Eric.
Speaker 3: Matthews, everyone's everyone's.
Speaker 5: My god.
Speaker 1: Daniel's like, I'll take this entire crowd on my shoulders. Listen.
Speaker 1: It's not that big, only one, you know, the only one.
Speaker 5: Everyone was.
Speaker 6: In the audience.
Speaker 5: Why are you talking about.
Speaker 6: That's actually right.
Speaker 1: I love all the kids too, just like I remember them, Like,
Speaker 1: you gotta film it.
Speaker 2: You gotta film it because if this is gonna go
Speaker 2: viral and that's what gets Eric elected.
Speaker 3: Like okay, all right, that's a stretch, but that's all right.
Speaker 1: God's so funny.
Speaker 3: My gosh, I have seen that so many times because
Speaker 3: people are like, they tagged me, Danielle, were you surprised?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, the reality world we even surprised Dan Yelle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, JB. Please what tell us? What
Speaker 3: are you up to now?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What do you do for work?
Speaker 2: Us?
Speaker 3: About your life?
Speaker 6: Pretty regular, boring life. I go to I work for
Speaker 6: my dad, but I go, I go golfing, go to
Speaker 6: call me shows. That's about it.
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 3: You work for your dad?
Speaker 1: But what do you do?
Speaker 6: It's an printing industry but nothing too crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 6: because I'm gonna probably start teaching golf soon, but I
Speaker 6: want to I want to get all my good swings
Speaker 6: out before I start teaching canceling.
Speaker 2: Right then, Gez, can you print like I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get giant posters of myself all over the country.
Speaker 1: Talking several hundred feet high? Is that okay?
Speaker 3: Is that you?
Speaker 1: I just want to start hanging them everywhere so we'll
Speaker 1: talk great.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well JB. We could not have been
Speaker 3: any happier to have stopped you, tracked you down, begged
Speaker 3: you to come on our podcast, because truly it's it's
Speaker 3: impossible to discuss the legacy of Boy Meets World without
Speaker 3: talking about you and without having you be a part
Speaker 3: of it. You were an indelible part of the show
Speaker 3: as well mentioned you're one of the most memorable parts
Speaker 3: of the show for so many people you for whether
Speaker 3: you consider it to be a short time or a
Speaker 3: long time, the time you spent in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 3: at the very least on our show made a ginormous
Speaker 3: impact on the people who watched. So thank you for
Speaker 3: your contrabutions to the industry and to our show and
Speaker 3: now our podcast. And thanks to your mom and Barbie
Speaker 3: Block who helped get you here so much. It was
Speaker 3: really wonderful reconnecting with you. Are you your I was
Speaker 3: gonna say, are you on social media? The answer is no,
Speaker 3: Is there.
Speaker 1: Anything all your lives?
Speaker 2: I'll get one back I got it hot, so okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't need to Well, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 3: When you do start teaching golf, send us your information
Speaker 3: and we will put it out there for people who
Speaker 3: are interested in taking golf lessons from you. We'd love
Speaker 3: to help support you in any way we can. So
Speaker 3: great reconnecting gears you. Yeah, exactly, baby mane bye. Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh. She's exactly the way I remember him from
Speaker 3: Girl Meets World time, and I remember at Girl Meets
Speaker 3: World too, thinking like, it's not that far off from
Speaker 3: the sweet little boy that we worked with in the nineties,
Speaker 3: like you are who you are, who you are, you know.
Speaker 2: It's also the thing that's amazing that that he had
Speaker 2: in common with the little kid that was from Liar
Speaker 2: Liar and Uncle Daddy.
Speaker 1: The thing I remember most was how professional they were.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, even at that age, you think that you're
Speaker 2: gonna be They're gonna be running around and all, we
Speaker 2: got it. There's kid wranglers on the set.
Speaker 5: We got it.
Speaker 1: It was never like that with him.
Speaker 2: He was always fun and still a kid. But when
Speaker 2: work it came time to work, he'd work, you know.
Speaker 2: It was it was one of those things people like,
Speaker 2: don't never work with kids and animals, Well, there's some
Speaker 2: kids that are pretty darn good even at that age.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And he was one of those where it
Speaker 2: was not it was never like, oh man, I gotta
Speaker 2: go do a scene with a seven year old.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, cool, what are we gonna do
Speaker 1: on this one? It was it was great. So he
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to work with us and
Speaker 1: grew up to be a pretty pretty special man.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, so healthy to like recognize as a
Speaker 4: teenager like I'm not I'm not cut out for this,
Speaker 4: Like this is not because there's a lot of pressure
Speaker 4: to be like to keep it going, and like, you know,
Speaker 4: it took me a long time to come to.
Speaker 5: Basically the same realization.
Speaker 4: It's like I love acting if I have the job,
Speaker 4: but like auditioning makes me feel really bad about myself.
Speaker 4: And like that was you know, I was thirty by
Speaker 4: the time I was like, I think I need to
Speaker 4: just for my mental health, take a break and like
Speaker 4: take a step back, you know, because but there was
Speaker 4: so much there's so much momentum, there's so much like
Speaker 4: you have to keep doing this, you have to prove
Speaker 4: but you you know, part of being an actor sometimes
Speaker 4: is that you're a sensitive person, You're emotional, you're and
Speaker 4: like you have to have like a thick layer of
Speaker 4: skin to really be a professional adult actor because you're
Speaker 4: constantly getting rejected and I like, you know, I'm It's
Speaker 4: so great that he realized that at a young and
Speaker 4: then I had something else that he loved, like golf.
Speaker 5: You know, he was able to be like, no, this
Speaker 5: is not who I am like and.
Speaker 3: So apparently got out early enough with that realization that
Speaker 3: then when they offered him the part on Girl Meets World,
Speaker 3: his feeling wasn't oh no, I cannot do that again.
Speaker 3: It was oh fun, absolutely, yeah, yeah the job, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 3: that'd be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He never once said anything like yeah, I really
Speaker 2: thought this was gonna be my foray back into the business.
Speaker 1: He was just like, yeah, it's cool, came out, fund
Speaker 1: out on the set, got yelled at.
Speaker 3: You know, happy to go back to.
Speaker 1: Hit the links again.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Well, thank you all for joining
Speaker 3: us for this episode of Podmeets World. As always, you
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