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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. This is Bloomberg business

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<v Speaker 1>Week Inside from the reporters and editors who bring you

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<v Speaker 1>tech news. The Bloomberg Business Week Podcast with Carol Messer

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<v Speaker 1>and Tim Stenebek from Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it with Tim Stenebeck dances to Madonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God. It is just very special.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're live at the US Open again. It's something

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<v Speaker 2>we look forward.

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<v Speaker 4>To everything, the best two days of well, can I

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<v Speaker 4>say that I don't want to, like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to make the other days feel bad, but sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>it's out there already. Yeah, it's pretty fun being here

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<v Speaker 4>at the US opener in the shadow of Arthur Ash

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<v Speaker 4>Stadium at the twenty twenty four US Open. There are

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people here this year, Carol. The US

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<v Speaker 4>Open on Monday, Opening Day. Yes, the biggest single day

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<v Speaker 4>crowd in the history of the US Open. Seventy four thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>six hundred and forty one people.

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<v Speaker 5>We're here.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every year that we come here, we

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<v Speaker 2>hear like other records being broken.

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<v Speaker 3>We can tell you from experience.

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<v Speaker 2>A ticket resale market also hot. The cheapest ticket you

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<v Speaker 2>did some homework on this, so I had to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for you said right, was more than three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for a day session.

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<v Speaker 4>Three hundred and eight dollars for Arthur ash tomorrow noon

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<v Speaker 4>noon slot. My life has come in. I got the

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<v Speaker 4>media pass. We're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the person who's involved in all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirsten Corio is back with us. She's USTA chief Commercial

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<v Speaker 2>officer on site with us here at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it feels like a good year already.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a bonker's spectacular year yet again. And I will

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<v Speaker 6>have you know that the ticket the original ticket price.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you said resaleing on individuals. The original ticket price.

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<v Speaker 6>The lowest we had was thirty two dollars at the

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<v Speaker 6>time original on sale, so you just have to buy earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Does this drive you crazy?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 4>Does this drive you crazy that instead of the USTA

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<v Speaker 4>getting the three hundred eight dollars that we spent on

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow's Nune session, it's ticketmaster whoever we bought it from.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't drive me crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know what, it's most likely from a US

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<v Speaker 6>Open subscriber who buys all Arthur Ash sessions who couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>make it for the day session. Really, I mean even

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<v Speaker 6>the most uber fan doesn't make it out for every

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<v Speaker 6>single one of the twenty five Arthur Ash sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's probably one.

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<v Speaker 6>Of them, and I don't begrudge them their ability to

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<v Speaker 6>resell their ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of the tickets are sold ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 2>I remembered you saying something I thought last year. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff gets sold.

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<v Speaker 6>Out, right, Yeah, So we had just unprecedented demand all year.

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<v Speaker 6>When we first went on sale the original American Express

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<v Speaker 6>Early Early Access for the pre sale, we sold as

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<v Speaker 6>many tickets in the first hour as we did in

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<v Speaker 6>five days last year. So it's just double digit percentages up.

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<v Speaker 6>The on sale a week later, double digit percentages up.

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<v Speaker 6>The demand is nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>There was this big concern two years ago that with

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<v Speaker 4>Serena Williams no longer playing, that you wouldn't see a

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<v Speaker 4>huge demand here in the US. That obviously wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to you about that last year. How do

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<v Speaker 4>you explain the growth from last year to this year?

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<v Speaker 6>Though I think there are nearly a million people nine

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty seven thousand to be exact who enjoyed

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<v Speaker 6>the twenty twenty three US Open, who said, Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>definitely coming back in twenty twenty four, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to take some more friends with me, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to tell all my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the simplest answer I can give you.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, beyond just the success of this event,

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<v Speaker 6>it feels like for the past few years, tennis has

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<v Speaker 6>been having a moment. More people in the US are

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<v Speaker 6>playing tennis, thans and for me about tennis and as challengers.

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<v Speaker 6>The movies and Daya represent representing the sport beautifully, and

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<v Speaker 6>I just have to, you know, credit the growth of

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<v Speaker 6>tennis participation as an element in the desire for people

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<v Speaker 6>to come out and see the top pros in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirsten, how many people are returnees?

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<v Speaker 7>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How much?

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage of folks are just coming to the Open

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<v Speaker 2>year after year after year?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, more than fifty percent of our ur Thrash

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<v Speaker 6>tickets are sold to full series ticket subscribers who do

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<v Speaker 6>purchase all twenty five sessions You're in, You're Out, and

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<v Speaker 6>those were new at ninety eight ninety nine percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is amazing. And what about the age demographics? I

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<v Speaker 2>think We've talked with you about this, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like golf went through it. Maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if tennis ever went through a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a lull of people were worried.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that that was the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, is it continuing to attract a younger

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<v Speaker 2>generation as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I think the short answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 6>But Fan Week is which is now part of the

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<v Speaker 6>three week and one day US Open. The main draw

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<v Speaker 6>runs for two weeks, the qualifying tournament runs the week

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<v Speaker 6>prior that. We've called fan Week, and we've built in

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<v Speaker 6>all kinds of ten poll events to attract a more

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<v Speaker 6>diverse younger audience, younger families to that. And we had

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<v Speaker 6>a record two hundred and sixteen thousand people come through

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<v Speaker 6>that week, that Fan Week, And so that's really the

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<v Speaker 6>way that we can attract a younger audience, a younger demographic.

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<v Speaker 6>We're giving away We gave away ten thousand free rackets

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<v Speaker 6>thanks to Wilson during that week, and we have Heineken

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<v Speaker 6>Happy Hours from five to seven every one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Days of block Party.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's a factor too in trying to

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<v Speaker 6>attract the younger audience to how cool it is to

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<v Speaker 6>be out here.

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<v Speaker 2>It works, and it translates into people coming to the

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<v Speaker 2>open Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, How much more capacity do you have when we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the number that came on Monday, more than

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<v Speaker 4>seventy four thousand. Can you actually fit more people here?

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<v Speaker 3>We can't fit more people in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 6>The stadium's capacity Arthurrash Stadium is a fixed capacity. Louis

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<v Speaker 6>Armstrong is a fixed capacity. But we also now are

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<v Speaker 6>selling evening grounds passes, which is something we haven't done

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<v Speaker 6>for a while, so we can get more people. We

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<v Speaker 6>didn't like the concept of not allowing people to come

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<v Speaker 6>into the grounds if there's tennis being played outside of

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<v Speaker 6>those two stadiums, and you can go freely and watch

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<v Speaker 6>those if you stay all day with the grounds pass,

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<v Speaker 6>But if you only want to come for the evening

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<v Speaker 6>and watch those matches, will sell you a grounds evening.

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<v Speaker 4>When are those matches taking place in the first are

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<v Speaker 4>they in a second?

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<v Speaker 6>Could you have in the early rounds in the first

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<v Speaker 6>and in the first and second round? You know, every

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<v Speaker 6>one of our courts is filled with competition, and some

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<v Speaker 6>courts have matches that will run all the way up

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<v Speaker 6>until midnight, depending on how long the matches are if

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<v Speaker 6>they're quick matches, perhaps not, But you know, in our

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<v Speaker 6>first couple nights, in our first four nights of the

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<v Speaker 6>first two rounds, you're likely to catch some great tennis

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<v Speaker 6>on the outer courts as well as inside the stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the matches not so quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yes, he had a record breaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Match, Sebastian, who's on camera and actually doing everything right now.

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<v Speaker 4>He came out here for a match. Was it Monday, Sebastian,

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<v Speaker 4>But you got.

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<v Speaker 2>Home and the match was still going on. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is like an hour and a half. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>five hour match.

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<v Speaker 6>Five hours thirty five minutes is the longest match in

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<v Speaker 6>the US Open history between Karen Katchanov and Daniel Evans,

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<v Speaker 6>and just an incredible another record, another amazing, another amazing statistic.

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<v Speaker 3>About the twenty twenty four US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have to say when I walked in, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just blown away by the crowd even looking bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than last year. And I don't know if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really like amazes me and over the years

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<v Speaker 2>of coming here, just how it continues to grow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so we think we're going to get a

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<v Speaker 6>million fans through the three weeks in one day on

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<v Speaker 6>which i'd be a record, which would be a record

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<v Speaker 6>last year nine hundred and fifty seven thousand. This year,

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<v Speaker 6>we're on track to meet and exceed that record. The

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<v Speaker 6>weather's been great, yeah, and that definitely helps, definitely helps

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<v Speaker 6>people come out and the events that we added through

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<v Speaker 6>fan week and into the finals weekend. We've added a

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<v Speaker 6>Finals weekend festival and watch party in Louis Armstrong Stadium,

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<v Speaker 6>as well as a Finals weekend banfest after party Saturday

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<v Speaker 6>night after.

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<v Speaker 3>The War's final. You know, we'll sleep a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>on September ninth when we.

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<v Speaker 4>Start all over again next week. You know what I noticed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think last year when you rolled up to be

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<v Speaker 4>interviewed by us, you had like a big energy drink

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<v Speaker 4>with you. I don't see the energy drink right now,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a good sign as to where

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<v Speaker 4>we are in the tournament. Like you're feeling good.

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<v Speaker 3>We're feeling great.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, next week we might need a little bit more

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<v Speaker 6>of the adrenaline and the energy drink, but we're feeling great.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just energized and axhilerated to see it all.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned you mentioned the weather, which I know yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>was a really, really hot day. Do you see a

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<v Speaker 4>decline in the number of fans who come out when

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<v Speaker 4>a day's so hot, I mean so hot that some

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<v Speaker 4>of the tennis players complain about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's a factor, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there are certain people, especially those that have

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<v Speaker 6>had the privilege of being out to sessions before either

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<v Speaker 6>this year or other years, who may make a judgment

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<v Speaker 6>call of if they don't feel that they can handle

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<v Speaker 6>being a ninety plus degree heat.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a factor.

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<v Speaker 6>But we also did have we may have broken another

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<v Speaker 6>record yesterday in attendance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's even though it was so unbearable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hot, that's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've to tell you, I have a friend here, a

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<v Speaker 2>young couple and they have their seven month old here too,

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, we're creating younger fan base and they're from

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<v Speaker 2>out of town and come in for this event. So

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<v Speaker 2>how do you think about year after year, like how

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<v Speaker 2>you like you continue some of the things that are working,

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<v Speaker 2>How you think about new ways right because you think

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<v Speaker 2>about revenue streams and how do you continue to build

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<v Speaker 2>out the business, so on the business side and keeping

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<v Speaker 2>a balance of keeping the sport pure that people don't

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<v Speaker 2>walk through and feel like it's too commercial.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why fan Week, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 6>harping on it like that is such an important investment

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<v Speaker 6>for us. And it is free for all fans to

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<v Speaker 6>attend every one of those days, seven days to come in,

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<v Speaker 6>free to go into Arthur ash Stadium and watch the

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<v Speaker 6>top pros practicing. You can sit in the front row.

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<v Speaker 6>A few days ago, I walked in before the main

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<v Speaker 6>draw and saw Coco playing a practice match against Sabalanca,

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<v Speaker 6>which is like amazing after Arthur ash Stadium competitively, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's a practice match, And I'm looking at the fans

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<v Speaker 6>sitting around that court who got in for free, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking they're seeing a reprise of the women's final

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<v Speaker 6>last year for free.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so that's really important. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, business is of course very important too, and we

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<v Speaker 6>do know that fifty percent ish of people who attend

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<v Speaker 6>fan Week do ultimately buy tickets for the main draw,

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<v Speaker 6>So it is a pipeline to build future fans. Adding

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<v Speaker 6>tent pole events during that main draw, sorry, during that

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<v Speaker 6>fan Week that our ticketed events is helping grow the

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<v Speaker 6>business as well and provide more exposure for our players,

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<v Speaker 6>and so when we think about ticket sales and hospitality

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<v Speaker 6>and premium, which are primary revenue streams, that's sort of

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<v Speaker 6>how we begin to introduce some test new ticketed products.

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<v Speaker 6>On the premium and experience side, we've been adding new

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<v Speaker 6>products to meet some of that experiential demand. This year,

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<v Speaker 6>we have a finals weekend clinic. A very limited number

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<v Speaker 6>of clients will have the privilege of doing that, playing

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<v Speaker 6>on a court with Andrea Agassi and Andy Rotick before

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<v Speaker 6>the men's final, before the women's final, and sitting in

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<v Speaker 6>the court side premiere first few rows ticketed product, and

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<v Speaker 6>so hospitality and experiences are a big part of that too.

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<v Speaker 2>How limited, So that's a limited I think are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty four for each session.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wow, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a pretty cool thing. And the women sold out first,

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<v Speaker 6>which we also love that. Who are they working within

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<v Speaker 6>the women same thing, same same but the draw being

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<v Speaker 6>the women's final.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that.

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<v Speaker 4>How are things looking on the sponsorship side in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of demand, what you're hearing from companies, the appetite for

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<v Speaker 4>them to come back and extend their agreements and partnerships

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<v Speaker 4>with you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>They've been great we've got, you know, a small ish

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<v Speaker 6>roster of partners, twenty four official sponsors, seven of which

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<v Speaker 6>have been with us for more than thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a really strong renewal history and track record here.

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<v Speaker 6>And you see our partners on the grounds, activating everywhere

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<v Speaker 6>and entertaining their own clients, but also interacting with fans

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<v Speaker 6>and enhancing the experience for fans. The MX Fan Experience

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<v Speaker 6>was opened during fan Week as well, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We added two new partners this year.

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<v Speaker 6>We added Destination DC for Washington DC tourism and n

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<v Speaker 6>we added Moet as our official champagne partner, which has

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<v Speaker 6>come in handy.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you able to reliably raise prices each year for

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<v Speaker 4>those brand opportunities to keep the revenue growing at the

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<v Speaker 4>USTA From that side.

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<v Speaker 6>As long as we can demonstrate more value to the partner,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the market, the value of the partnership can increase,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's all dependent on what value does the partner

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<v Speaker 6>wish to extract from the US Open and how can

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<v Speaker 6>we quantify and qualify, you know, the value that we've

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<v Speaker 6>been able to deliver to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Partner over their term.

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<v Speaker 2>What's fun about the sports world for you because you

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<v Speaker 2>spent what fourteen years of the NBA. I know we

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<v Speaker 2>always bring this up, but I think here you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tennis.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much going on.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a week where the NFL said okay for

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<v Speaker 2>private equity.

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<v Speaker 3>To buy into you know firms.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been doing a lot of stuff a business

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<v Speaker 2>week about the explosion of gambling basically right when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to all things sports. But what's interesting for you

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of watch this progression and where things are.

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<v Speaker 3>Sports is just fun sports and live entertainment.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, it's great predict everything and that's what makes

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<v Speaker 6>it really serendipitous and fun, but also sometimes stressful.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes the energydrink. Energy drink is required.

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<v Speaker 6>But we also we just announced yesterday with our partners ESPN. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we've extended our relationship through twenty thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be the longest deal in.

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<v Speaker 6>Tennis and they're a fantastic partner and we couldn't be

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<v Speaker 6>more thrilled about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the big fun news from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>That did require a little help from our partner Moet

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<v Speaker 6>in celebrating that one, But that makes it really.

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<v Speaker 3>Full the bottles, like a couple of courts.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe, maybe when we speak to you next year,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going to be the biggest.

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<v Speaker 6>Change wow for the twenty twenty five US said, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We're already thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're about you are you will be in a week?

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<v Speaker 6>We sure are, I mean a couple of weeks. It's interesting,

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<v Speaker 6>like day one begins and we already have a twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five list beginning of Okay, we're going to do

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<v Speaker 6>this differently for next year. But you know, I'll say,

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<v Speaker 6>when we look at the Fan Week and the tent

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<v Speaker 6>pole events, we love them. We want to make them bigger, better,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, more exciting performances, and they really are a

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<v Speaker 6>testing ground for us. You can't predict the competition on

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<v Speaker 6>the court and the main draw, but you can plan

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<v Speaker 6>for and create new experiences for the fans that come out,

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<v Speaker 6>and new ways to deliver that to people digitally. And

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<v Speaker 6>when we think about digital you may not see it

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<v Speaker 6>here on the grounds. If you wanted to take a

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<v Speaker 6>walk over to the Advantage Arena, you could play Fortnite,

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<v Speaker 6>you could play US Open Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Five million people have played it so far.

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<v Speaker 4>Always good to see you, Officer of the USDA, Kirston

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<v Speaker 4>Correo joining us here at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you're at the US Open and just loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just perfect weather.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say there are a few certain truths when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the US Open. There's the honeydews. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>check matches that stretch into the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you've run for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>It players not so much, not so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much a definite New York five even though it's global.

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<v Speaker 5>But crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>We can hear them right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like we love it when like somebody scores a

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<v Speaker 2>great point or something.

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<v Speaker 3>If you just hear the crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>Sponsors logos they're plastered everywhere. They've been for years, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, JP, Morgan, Chase, Emirates, Chubb, IBM, and of

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<v Speaker 4>course American.

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<v Speaker 2>Express, longtime partner of the US Open. MX has been

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<v Speaker 2>a brand sponsor of the US Open for more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years. We just talked with Kirsten about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the brands. A handful or so that have been with

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<v Speaker 2>them for a long time, and that includes American Express.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahs Zuki can tell us exactly why and where they

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<v Speaker 4>see the value. She's vice president of Global Brand, Sponsorships

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<v Speaker 4>and Experiential Marketing at American Express. She joined us on

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<v Speaker 4>site here at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 8>Good hello to see you too, Thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 8>another year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's another partnership year between AMEX and the US Open.

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<v Speaker 8>I know this is our thirty first year, if you

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<v Speaker 8>can believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what keeps you coming back? I mean this is

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<v Speaker 4>a big ticket event. This is a big ticket item.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to see ROI from as you sit, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>what keeps you coming back?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean ultimately, right, we are not just in the

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<v Speaker 8>card business. We are really in the business of membership.

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<v Speaker 8>And when we talk about membership, it's about all the

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<v Speaker 8>value that we bring to our card members and our

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<v Speaker 8>prospective card members. So that could be at things like

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<v Speaker 8>live sports and incredible moments like here, music, entertainment and

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<v Speaker 8>other how do we, you know, bring them that incredible

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<v Speaker 8>access and value. Right, And so when you think about

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<v Speaker 8>US Open, I mean, this is such an incredible event

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<v Speaker 8>right here in New York City, and like, yeah, would

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<v Speaker 8>not want to be anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it event specifically like the US Open, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>do for your membership base. Yeah, it's a feedback you here,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you see?

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<v Speaker 3>It's number one.

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<v Speaker 8>It's an incredible event, right, And I'm sure Curisten talked

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit about even the growth of the fan base,

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<v Speaker 8>right and their ticket sales, et cetera. But even just

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<v Speaker 8>like even in tennis, fandom overall has grown actually year

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<v Speaker 8>after year for the last few years. For US, we

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<v Speaker 8>really think about this event. We were able to bring

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<v Speaker 8>something for everyone because there was so much to offer here.

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<v Speaker 8>We have a twenty thousand square foot fan experience space

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<v Speaker 8>and so it is all indoors, especially on really hot

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<v Speaker 8>summer and New year Gestic is like yesterday, but the

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<v Speaker 8>first floor is actually open to everyone, and so it's

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<v Speaker 8>a fan experience space. We've got everything from Glow Tennis.

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<v Speaker 8>We have this really incredible customizable tennis ball station.

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<v Speaker 3>This year.

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<v Speaker 8>We have you know, things like we actually have a

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<v Speaker 8>two K so like the actual video game two K

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<v Speaker 8>two K Top Spin. We have some gaming stations there.

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<v Speaker 8>We have this really fun trivia based more machines of

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<v Speaker 8>vending machines like size of a human. There's some trivia

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<v Speaker 8>in there, and depending on if you get the answers

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<v Speaker 8>right around, there's some great prizes as well. So we've

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<v Speaker 8>got that upstairs. We've got a card member lounge as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you're a few months from now, or even

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<v Speaker 4>just a couple of weeks from now, when you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at the numbers, yes, to justify the marketing spent here,

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<v Speaker 4>what are the metrics that you're looking at to know

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not it was successful.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean we're looking at everything from certainly right, ticket

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<v Speaker 8>sales and the attendance here, but we're also looking at

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<v Speaker 8>for ourselves engagement reach things of that nature, right, like

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<v Speaker 8>what are the numbers of people that are coming by?

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, we'll look at that from the perspective

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<v Speaker 8>of like our existing car member base and other opportunities there.

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<v Speaker 8>And then certainly right there's going to be all the

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<v Speaker 8>qualitative feedback as well in terms of like how much

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<v Speaker 8>do they love it? Like we hear such great feedback

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<v Speaker 8>about the things that we offer.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have do you want to see an increase

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<v Speaker 4>in number of people who are signing up for certain

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<v Speaker 4>cards after an event like this, like a Platinum cards.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, Yeah, that would be fantastic, Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you able to measure that? Like, are you able

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<v Speaker 4>to draw a line from this to that?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's there's different ways in which we're able to

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<v Speaker 8>draw and like be able to talk about like ROI

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<v Speaker 8>overall for the business certainly, Yeah, I think for us too,

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<v Speaker 8>Right when we think about you know, the like the

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<v Speaker 8>audience here, how this has also changed, right, it continues

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<v Speaker 8>to get younger. We think about gen Z and millennial

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<v Speaker 8>audiences for us, like when we think about even twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty three. Overall as a business, we've actually publicly talked

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<v Speaker 8>about the fact that like sixty percent of all new

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<v Speaker 8>cards acquired in consumer is actually in that like gen

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<v Speaker 8>Z millennial base, and seventy five percent of that is

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<v Speaker 8>actually in the platinum and gold cards. So you think

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<v Speaker 8>about premium card segments and the growth of that younger demographic, right,

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<v Speaker 8>fans here also getting younger as well, and so it's

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<v Speaker 8>a great, incredible opportunity for us to engage them at

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<v Speaker 8>all different levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I think we wonder, Like we always

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<v Speaker 2>think about, you know, you do something and then what's

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<v Speaker 2>the direct payoff? And maybe it is, And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm curious about and I think tims too,

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<v Speaker 2>is do you actually sign up people that come here

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<v Speaker 2>to this event or is it more about like brand

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<v Speaker 2>recognition and understanding what AMEX is about, even for like

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<v Speaker 2>a younger consumer.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it's all of the above. Right.

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<v Speaker 8>So really, if you think about it from the angle

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<v Speaker 8>of brand consideration, a brand is really that, like, there

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<v Speaker 8>is so much that goes into that. It's a long

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<v Speaker 8>term relationship that you build with somebody, right, And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've had my AMEX to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>full disclosure since college, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a long time.

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<v Speaker 8>Well we thank you for that, We thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 8>But but yeah, I mean I think it is that

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<v Speaker 8>like every single touch point, it's it's like a relationship

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<v Speaker 8>with anybody else. Right, We're obviously right this from a

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<v Speaker 8>brand perspective, right, but just the same way you would

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<v Speaker 8>build a relationship with anybody else. It takes many many

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<v Speaker 8>touch points to get to that, right, You build a

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<v Speaker 8>trust the relationship other. Yeah, that's what we're really here

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<v Speaker 8>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It's funny. I actually surprised to see that

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<v Speaker 4>there is one of your biggest competitors here as one

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<v Speaker 4>of the sponsors, as well, you don't oftentimes see that

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<v Speaker 4>when with different events that make.

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<v Speaker 3>You angry, we just do about is.

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<v Speaker 4>It going to be my question?

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<v Speaker 3>I would be a little angry she is.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to skip twenty twenty five when she comes back.

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<v Speaker 4>But how do you stand out an environment where you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Chase does have an airport lounge, Chase does have a

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<v Speaker 4>lounge here. How do you justify to a member paying

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<v Speaker 4>seven hundred dollars a year where when there are competitors

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<v Speaker 4>out there who offer similar experiences.

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<v Speaker 8>I think for us, we stay focused on our card

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<v Speaker 8>member base and that future card member base. Right, So

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<v Speaker 8>we're constantly looking at right, what is the data, what

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<v Speaker 8>is the feedback? What are all the different places that

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<v Speaker 8>people are going to show up for us?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>We've been here for thirty one years at the US Open,

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<v Speaker 8>but this is one of an entire portfolio by the

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<v Speaker 8>way of the places that we are, whether that be

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<v Speaker 8>in like lifestyle, entertainment, music. Last year we kicked off

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<v Speaker 8>our and announced our partnership with Formula one in the

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<v Speaker 8>America's region, right, and so right we are staying ahead

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<v Speaker 8>of in terms of like all the passion points in

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<v Speaker 8>the places where the people that are our car members

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<v Speaker 8>want to be and so that is really like if

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<v Speaker 8>you think about it from a holistic perspective, right, it

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<v Speaker 8>is about the holistic offering.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz, talk to us a little bit about the pathic

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<v Speaker 2>I think of you know, pre pandemic, pandemic hits, right,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's traveling, and you guys did a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>to adapt to people being at home. And then we're,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, slowly coming out of the pandemic. And now

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<v Speaker 2>we're you know, we've seen a ton of traveling. Like

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<v Speaker 2>where are we post pandemic? What you guys are seeing

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<v Speaker 2>from consumers?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Actually, we had a twenty twenty four Business as

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<v Speaker 8>a Travel Trends report that we released and actually, when

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<v Speaker 8>we look at that, almost seventy percent of people are

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<v Speaker 8>going to be traveling this year and it's related to

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<v Speaker 8>some type of big sporting event or event or other.

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<v Speaker 8>So the trends there are like looking up and up

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<v Speaker 8>as we think about that intersection of travel, fandom, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>The Olympics, Like, did you see it lack connected to

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<v Speaker 2>that as well?

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<v Speaker 8>Olympics, right, like any big sporting moment, Like last year

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<v Speaker 8>was Las Vegas Grand Prix. It was the first ever

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<v Speaker 8>Formula One race out in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, I think so too one of our colleagues.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fantastic.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So, like you think about those types of moments

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<v Speaker 8>and how do you bring that to life, Like in

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<v Speaker 8>American Express, we're at the intersection of all event travel,

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<v Speaker 8>big events, other so.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think about growth in the future and attracting

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<v Speaker 4>those card members who don't exist yet, who are not

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<v Speaker 4>who have not signed up, how do you think about

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<v Speaker 4>adding different features and experiences to keep the value proposition fresh?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what's on the what's on the the whiteboard with

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<v Speaker 4>brainstormed ideas right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it is. It is about that, right,

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<v Speaker 8>it is about where are the trends going? And like

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<v Speaker 8>how do you anticipate that as much as you can?

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<v Speaker 8>This year, you know, it's been really exciting. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 8>like the area of like even music, Like we've actually

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<v Speaker 8>done quite a bit with like the likes of Olivia Rodrigo,

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<v Speaker 8>Billy Eilish, Dua Lipa, and so you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 8>able to do some really incredible moments and experiences and

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<v Speaker 8>access for our card members, not just here in the US,

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<v Speaker 8>but also globally as well.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at the consumer we've got to ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd be idiots if we didn't, and we are bloomberg like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel like and I know American Express every

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<v Speaker 2>time we talk about the company, we say it's a

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<v Speaker 2>certain sector of consumers. But like I said, I got

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<v Speaker 2>mine in college. I was making no money, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I started. Is the consumer doing okay? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you see any concerns that? I mean, we look around

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<v Speaker 2>here and we're like, consumers are spending big time?

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<v Speaker 3>Are here?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? I mean, listen, I think at some of the

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<v Speaker 8>biggest moments that are out there in sports and entertainment,

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<v Speaker 8>people are there. I mean, that's what we're seeing. That's

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<v Speaker 8>what we want to provide for our card members. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I think it's an exciting twenty twenty four has

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<v Speaker 8>been a very exciting year for all sorts of events

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<v Speaker 8>around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you here all two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here. Yeah, I'm here for a good number of days.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, what a bad place to be, right, I might

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<v Speaker 8>take out the line or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Great snapshot of what you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are doing. And like we said, you have been American

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<v Speaker 2>Express affiliated with it for thirty years with the US Open, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a really really long time. She Suzuki.

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<v Speaker 2>She's vice president of Global Brand, Sponsorships and Experiential Marketing

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<v Speaker 2>at American Express.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us on site from the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg Business If you're alive at the US Open and

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<v Speaker 2>flashing meadows Queen. We often say when broadcasting from the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open that, Yep, no doubt, it's about the tennis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what you see on the courts, the players, the matches.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be fair, coming to the US Open is

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<v Speaker 2>quite an experience.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the food, the merge, the people watching, the lounges

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<v Speaker 4>and yes, Carol, your prized honey deuces.

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<v Speaker 3>I still have my cup from last year?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you bring it back this year?

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<v Speaker 3>I did?

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna get another one still tomorrow, We'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the food, the year, the team this year,

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<v Speaker 2>the team that's behind it all. They recruited more than

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<v Speaker 2>twenty New York City restaurants to serve their signature food

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<v Speaker 2>and drink items at various dining venues, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>see it as you walk around the center, the Tennis

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<v Speaker 2>Center throughout.

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<v Speaker 3>The two weeks of the tournament. So to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it all, as Chris Studley, he's back with us.

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<v Speaker 2>He's managing director of Event Services at the USTA right

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<v Speaker 2>on site here at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to be back with you. How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me back. I'm great.

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<v Speaker 9>We've had a great year. Of course, you kicked off

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<v Speaker 9>with Fan Week just a little over a week ago.

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<v Speaker 9>Welcome more folks than ever before to our site during

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<v Speaker 9>that period.

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<v Speaker 5>People are finding out about it.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, we don't have tickets that week, and people are

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<v Speaker 9>flooding out here to check out the action, get close

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<v Speaker 9>to the players.

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<v Speaker 4>Is all food and beverage that's available this week and

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<v Speaker 4>next week available during fan Week.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 9>So years prior, we've kind of opened up slowly, but

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<v Speaker 9>we knew that we were promoting this and trying to

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<v Speaker 9>get more fans interested in it, so we opened the

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<v Speaker 9>entire food village. We opened a few restaurants as well,

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<v Speaker 9>that wouldn't have been opened in the past, and people

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<v Speaker 9>really responded, well, I mean the fans that came out

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<v Speaker 9>over two hundred and sixteen thousand of them. So we

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<v Speaker 9>set all kinds of records and people realized what a deal.

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<v Speaker 9>I can come on the site for free. I can

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<v Speaker 9>get up close with the stars of today. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It is pretty incredible. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking with Kirsten Koreo about it earlier, having

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<v Speaker 2>said that, how do you think about the experiences that

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<v Speaker 2>you want in terms of hospitality, because we certainly see

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that come back every year, but then there's

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<v Speaker 2>some new stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell us about kind of the menu that you

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<v Speaker 3>think about.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, So we look at all the data, right, we

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<v Speaker 9>have spreadsheet upon spreadsheets.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to bore you with those details.

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<v Speaker 9>It's more fun to talk about the drinks.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, So that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Readsheet is our language.

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<v Speaker 9>So we can look back and look at sales over

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<v Speaker 9>prior years. I mean I'm talking dating back to over

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<v Speaker 9>ten years ago, and we can see the trends in everything. Right,

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<v Speaker 9>what's the hot item? What needs to stay if you will?

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<v Speaker 9>What what are we looking at that may not move,

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<v Speaker 9>what's not moving the needle.

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<v Speaker 5>What are our fans asking for? Maybe they're not buying.

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<v Speaker 9>So we we go in every year with a fresh

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<v Speaker 9>perspective of Hey, in this stand, there's three or four items,

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<v Speaker 9>this one's on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's refresh that. Let's do something new with it and

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<v Speaker 5>see if it responds.

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<v Speaker 9>So it gives us that opportunity and just like that,

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<v Speaker 9>over the years, when we've evaluated like this, we've gotten feedback, Hey,

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<v Speaker 9>try this, try that, and it actually shapes the food

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<v Speaker 9>village a little bit every year. We piloted last year,

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<v Speaker 9>in the year before we were piloting a mobile ordering system,

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<v Speaker 9>we realized that our event, our fans weren't really interested

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<v Speaker 9>in it. What they wanted to do was take that

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<v Speaker 9>walk down the food village you mentioned yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of love doing it and like looking at

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<v Speaker 2>but there are sometimes lines and I'm like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Job is to make sure they're live.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you know, we look at everything from the technology

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<v Speaker 9>that we use to process the transactions down to how

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<v Speaker 9>the honeyduce is made in a tap system. Now, so,

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<v Speaker 9>by the way, you get the perfect ratio of vodkaa

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<v Speaker 9>lemonade to raspberry look or.

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<v Speaker 4>Autocato. Yeah, the melon they have a Chipotle to make

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<v Speaker 4>them all in.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, is there something for.

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<v Speaker 9>The un there is, there's a type system. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 9>the Mellon ball is so interesting story about those. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>we're projected hopefully do a half a million honey duces

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<v Speaker 9>this year. I think three mellion balls per honeyduce. You're

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<v Speaker 9>talking one point five million Mellon balls. And we have

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<v Speaker 9>a team that puts them on skewers. So they come

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<v Speaker 9>in bald already, but there is a team.

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<v Speaker 5>But they come balld. Okay, they come bald.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Yes, I'm just going to say it could

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<v Speaker 2>be like Chris is handing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're here to get the assignments. You're on the Mellon

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<v Speaker 3>ball team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really sorry, but you're going to be like making

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<v Speaker 2>Mellon balls in the back of it.

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<v Speaker 5>The unsung heroes for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going, Yeah, how much revenue does the honey juice

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<v Speaker 2>bring in?

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<v Speaker 3>What can you tell us? You know, he saw some numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 5>What are you say?

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<v Speaker 3>Nine million dollars in sales?

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<v Speaker 9>That's probably fair and were last year we sold about

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<v Speaker 9>four hundred and sixty two thousand, all right, and how

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<v Speaker 9>much are they eat?

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty two last year, twenty three this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, he held you sold?

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<v Speaker 5>How many last About four hundred and sixty two thousand?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So yeah, so that's about ten point six million.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So our listener Sedron, who's very into tennis, is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be here tomorrow. Combine the men's women's tournament win

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<v Speaker 2>winners get seven point two million in winnings, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>making more.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we have to pay the whole pool of prize money.

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<v Speaker 5>Who watch more. There's a lot of other players that

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<v Speaker 5>aren't the one.

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<v Speaker 2>What if?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the winning prize money was based on just

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<v Speaker 4>honeyduce revenue?

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<v Speaker 2>So you take a percentage equal prize player says, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a percentage of the honey duce.

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<v Speaker 4>The players are like, go buy your honeyduces.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. It all helps the fan experience, right.

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Everybody in our newsroom was coming up, like you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the US OP and I wish you were there.

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<v Speaker 2>Our Scarlet Food said to me, wait a minute, so

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<v Speaker 2>where did the honey deuce recipe come from?

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<v Speaker 5>Great question? I've been asked that a couple of times recently,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because we keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about how she always has good questions.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, funny enough, this is the first year we actually

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<v Speaker 9>did Honey due merchandise. So you can get a Honey

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 9>Ducee hat or T shirt with the recipe on the back.

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<v Speaker 9>And they sold like wildfire, according to our merchandise.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it was really popular.

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<v Speaker 3>So where did it come up from?

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 4>Where?

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 5>How did it come about?

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<v Speaker 9>It came up from a grey Goose mixologist and a

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 9>few USCA folks in a kitchen here on site over

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 9>fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 5>Ago, just before I joined the organization. I think I

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<v Speaker 5>can't take any.

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<v Speaker 3>Credit for it, but it must have been a fun kitchen,

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, they were experiment again.

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<v Speaker 9>They sat there and tried every different cocktail and what's

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<v Speaker 9>the world that resonated the most?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? What was the flavor of summer so to speak.

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<v Speaker 9>So then they even came up with the three melon

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<v Speaker 9>balls to represent the tennis balls and a can.

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<v Speaker 5>So not everybody realized that, but yeah, was.

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<v Speaker 4>That lightning in a bottle? I mean, you know the

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 4>way that I talk about the us open to people,

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<v Speaker 4>they always say, what does that drink?

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<v Speaker 5>What does that drink?

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 4>What does that drink.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody to do.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everybody knows about it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's grown over time, right, it's just taken on its

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<v Speaker 9>own persona. Thanks social media for that. Right as that

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 9>took off, the Ducee takes off. It's cool to come

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<v Speaker 9>take your picture with the honey Due.

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<v Speaker 2>So when are you going to do a mocktail again?

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth asks us, who says, I'm going to come, But

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I want to drink alcohol, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have a Honeyducee mocktail.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, we'd have to talk to our partners at

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 9>greg Goose and kind of figure something out if we

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<v Speaker 9>can do that.

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 5>But we do all for some.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Everything without the minus the vodka, minus the key.

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<v Speaker 9>You can have lemonade, lemonade and some melon balls. Yes,

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 9>with melon balls. We do offer a few mots on

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 9>the site. It is a category that's growing, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing, So many guests come on and it's non alcoholic beer, beers,

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>wines like.

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 4>You name it.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we do serve the Heineken zero point zero, which

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 9>is quite delicious for a non alcoholic beer.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are a good partner of ours as well.

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<v Speaker 4>On the food side of it, the prep time. That

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 4>goes into actually making sure that there are minimal lines

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 4>even though there are still lines. How do you have

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<v Speaker 4>the balance of making sure that you know that the

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 4>chefs are prepping ahead of time, but also making stuff

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<v Speaker 4>to order. You're not going to get something soggy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, So their goal is to not make you know

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<v Speaker 9>the finished product days in advance for frending stretch. You know,

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 9>they're professionals what they do. I mean even the best

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 9>restaurants in New York City do a lot of prep uh,

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<v Speaker 9>and they know where they can kind of cook the

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 9>item too until they have to serve and then obviously

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<v Speaker 9>finish it. So they're the pro at that. I don't

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 9>claim to be. I'm not a chef at all, nor

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 9>do I work in a kitchen. But you're operations guy,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 9>operations guy through and through, so you know they know

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<v Speaker 9>what's best.

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<v Speaker 5>I trust them. They know what they're doing.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 9>We work with Levy Restaurants, which is a division of

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 9>Compass Group. They're around the world, they know what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 9>their process.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you have kitchens like all set up all

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<v Speaker 2>over like all over and stuff's coming in off site?

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 9>We have about seven commissaries on site I'm talking massive kitchens.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 9>We even have one underneath the grandstand. The public would

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<v Speaker 9>have no idea where it is. Kitchens in the back

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 9>of every restaurant, so fresh as food possible. It's built

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<v Speaker 9>to serve the areas that they're in.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, from an operations perspective, talk to us about

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<v Speaker 4>how you're using technology to sort of offset where people

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<v Speaker 4>maybe add more people, where people are going add more

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 4>stuff there. What's the tech side of this?

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<v Speaker 9>So on the tech side not necessarily tied to food

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 9>and beverage, so much more tied to seating our fans,

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<v Speaker 9>especially the first week of tennis right now with so

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<v Speaker 9>many grounds, passes and matches going on everywhere. We actually

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<v Speaker 9>have cameras aimed at every bleacher, so you can kind

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 9>of get an idea of where you're going to go, green, yellow, red,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 9>for you know, which has seating available to kind of

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<v Speaker 9>point people in the right direction to catch the tennis.

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<v Speaker 4>Love that all right?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the most exclusive dining experience here?

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<v Speaker 9>Exclusive dining Aces and Champions are two signature restaurants on

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<v Speaker 9>the club level of ash. You either need a court

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 9>side ticket or a sweet ticket to access them. Those

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 9>are probably what people just die to get into. The

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 9>reservations are off the charts.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's this chicken?

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<v Speaker 4>The lowly media pass Carol will not get you in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let me know if you guys need.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my French fries before. What's this chicken dish

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<v Speaker 2>with caviar?

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<v Speaker 9>So Coco Doc by restaurant tour Simon Kim So if

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<v Speaker 9>you've heard of it, popular restaurant in the city right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, House knows about them.

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<v Speaker 9>So we have the stand on the club level of

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<v Speaker 9>Arthur ash Stadium and it is just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you can get regular.

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<v Speaker 9>Chicken nuggets with dipping sauces all the way up to

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<v Speaker 9>truffle nuggets or the caviar covered nuggets, and it's selling crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to ask you this question that I asked

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Kirsten just in the last twenty seconds we have with you.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the what's the big difference that you're already planning

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<v Speaker 4>for next year? What's something new that's coming in twenty five?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you thinking about.

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<v Speaker 9>We're always looking at new chef's, new restaurants, what people

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 9>are craving. I'll get back to you after I look

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<v Speaker 9>at all the data.

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<v Speaker 4>Always working this guy is always working, always looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the data.

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<v Speaker 3>That is such. That is such cool stuff. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much. And cardible Deli's.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to they are it's popular, very cool, stormy sandwich.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe hey, I already had what I I have know

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<v Speaker 4>you at something Chicken euro something delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, Chris, thank you so much. Thanks for good luck

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Dudley, he's managing director of Events Services at the USTA,

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<v Speaker 2>joining us right here on site at the US.

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<v Speaker 4>Open brom.

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<v Speaker 1>Journal.

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<v Speaker 3>Now about you let me drive?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, no, no, no, alright please, I'll gravelt.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I want to drive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the drive to the clothes down communing well

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<v Speaker 1>Brier on Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, just about eighteen minutes left in today's

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>trading session. We are definitely driving to the clothes on

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 2>this Thursday. You've got equities, as you just heard from

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Amy Morris, definitely off their highs of this session. And

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>we did see some movement on the treasury side of

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>things following this morning's economic report.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Upbeat growth is still happening. That's a good thing. Maybe

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>a recession won't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see what our next guest has to

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>say with us is a treat John Mussau, he's chief

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>executive officer, director Fixed Income at Cumberland Advisors, a firm

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>that has been around for a half a century or so,

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and of course a good friend David Kotek. I think

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>about it, like we've talked lots of conversations. You guys

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>have seen a lot of market cycles.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's do it.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>What does this one tell you?

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<v Speaker 7>We think it's elongated because of COVID, so everything takes longer. Yeah,

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 7>you know, it took a while for inflation to set in,

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 7>took longer. It took longer for the Fed to raise rates.

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 7>It's taken a longer time for the Fed to start

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 7>cutting rates, which looks like it's going to happen next month.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 7>And it's taken a while for inflation to come back down,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 7>which seems like it's finally taking place as well.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 3>So we're getting back to normal.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 7>Getting whatever normal, whatever normal is, is taking longer.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 5>To get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you concerned that the Fed waited too long to

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 4>cut rates?

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<v Speaker 7>I am, and because I think there's a lot of

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 7>anecdotal evidence out there that the economy is moving lower,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 7>maybe a little faster than people think you could almost

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 7>read it a little bit of it into j Powell's language,

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<v Speaker 7>because it seems like he shifted in his not only

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 7>his talk at Jackson Hall, but at the FED meeting

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 7>before that, from a concern about inflation per se to

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 7>a little more concern about the job market and that

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 7>their movements going forward would be to probably hopefully keep

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 7>the job market from slide down, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, though I don't know, these aren't exact sciences, right,

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 2>especially when you're getting ready to pivot right. It's a

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>little tricky, and I mean, I don't know what's worse.

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, if people are losing jobs, that's not

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>going to be a good thing for the economy.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 3>But I also know that you've got to tame the

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>inflation beast.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>But I also do wonder, John, we talked about normal,

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 2>is it a different normal when it comes to where

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 2>inflation needs to run going forward because of some different

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>macro factors, whether it's wars or climate change or whatever.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of that at work. In the end.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm always a little distrustful when someone says this time

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 7>it's different, you know, and you've had people say that,

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 7>particularly when you talk about something like the inverted.

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Yell crew for example.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 7>They're saying it doesn't matter anymore because now you're like

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 7>a year past a year and a half and we

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 7>haven't gone into a slowdown.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 5>I would suggest that you can still wait and.

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 7>See that and why because COVID has extended that time

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 7>period there was so much space in the system. You're

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 7>starting to see things like and you've had other guests

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 7>talk about it, higher rates of people, you know, not

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 7>paying their credit cards.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 5>You're seeing it.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 7>I see it personally in my email every week where

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm getting resumes from either people that have lost jobs

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 7>in financial services, but also from kids getting out of

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 7>college that can't get jobs.

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 5>That's a far cry from where you were two years ago.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Now that doesn't you know, list, is this a normalization

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 4>or is this concerning to you?

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 7>It's it's I see it as a normalization given the

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 7>hot market.

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 4>You were in two years Like, this is pre COVID

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 4>levels pre COVID.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yes, you're a pre COVID levels, but moving moving

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 7>in the downward direction, right, So that's that's a bit

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 7>of a concern.

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>But that's a great question, Like, so is it if

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 2>we're getting back to normal, which is just getting back

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to normal.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 3>But getting back to normal can be painful on the.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Economy, sure, you know, especially if you're the one losing

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 7>their job, and you know, there's there was no question

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<v Speaker 7>that most, if not all, of these COVID funds were spent,

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<v Speaker 7>and that is what of course caused that, not damage,

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<v Speaker 7>but the cycle that we did see on inflation. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think you would not necessarily have been here if

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<v Speaker 7>maybe the FED had acted sooner back in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you know, wait until this March of twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Two to their defense, and I think is still the

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<v Speaker 4>jury isn't necessarily still out, but I think there was

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<v Speaker 4>still supply chain challenges that led to some of the

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<v Speaker 4>inflation pressures that we saw.

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<v Speaker 7>I would agree with you, Tim, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>it was just that. I think it's the Fed, like

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<v Speaker 7>back during the Great Recession, where they kept short term

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<v Speaker 7>regis rates at zero a quarter for god seven years,

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<v Speaker 7>the same concerns were this time. They did not want

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<v Speaker 7>to see employment slide back just as it was coming out,

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<v Speaker 7>and they would err on that side.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, let's talk politics, because everybody loves talking about politzing

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<v Speaker 4>going on. Yeah, nothing going on right, nothing happened in November.

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<v Speaker 4>How should pond investors think about these two candidates.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, we saw in twenty sixteen, we saw yields move

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<v Speaker 7>up when Trump got elected out overnight and yield shot up,

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<v Speaker 7>and they stayed elevated for the better part of about

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<v Speaker 7>nine ten months before they started to come down. You

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<v Speaker 7>saw that same reaction after the first debate, and yields

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<v Speaker 7>bounced up about almost twenty five basis points from where

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<v Speaker 7>they were because people started to assume not only a

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<v Speaker 7>Trump winning the election, but also a particularly after the

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<v Speaker 7>assassination offempt, a sweep of Congress, both the House and

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<v Speaker 7>the Senate. And that perception is, oh boy, if everybody's

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<v Speaker 7>on the same side, they're going to start spending money,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, just like a party.

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<v Speaker 4>But is it also the idea that if Trump were

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<v Speaker 4>to win, he would and he's talked openly about this,

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<v Speaker 4>the idea of maybe pressuring the FED or having input

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<v Speaker 4>to the FED when it comes to interest rates. He's

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<v Speaker 4>talked about that, he says, as.

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<v Speaker 5>Much is talked about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think if he really wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>To think, some people are worried about the credibility of

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<v Speaker 4>the FED in a situation r right.

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<v Speaker 7>My own thought is that if he won, he would

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<v Speaker 7>keep J. Powell in there at least to the end

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<v Speaker 7>of his term in twenty eight. And one of the

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<v Speaker 7>reasons there is that he appointed stuff. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there's some credence level there, right. But I do think

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<v Speaker 7>that the idea that if all parties White House, Senate

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<v Speaker 7>and House of Representatives are on the same side, that

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<v Speaker 7>is regardless of who's in power, Democrats or Republicans, because

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<v Speaker 7>you spend because there's no check in balance. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think the market started to assume.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, but my question is more about rates and pressure

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<v Speaker 4>that he would put on any FED chair, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>Powell or not. He said he has said that he

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<v Speaker 4>thinks the president should have input when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>is it.

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<v Speaker 3>More bark than bite?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's I think it's more.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's more barked than bite, certainly because the

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<v Speaker 7>last thing he wants to do is have the financial

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<v Speaker 7>markets go into a you know, volatility mix, right, because

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<v Speaker 7>of what.

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<v Speaker 3>He's saying, right, they will have no credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>He will have no credibility. It's not about FED not

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<v Speaker 2>having credibility, no, no, All right, got about a minute lapped,

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you invest? You know, you're playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the fixed income world. As we're getting ready for a

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<v Speaker 2>FED pivot, we think, like, what's your advice to investors?

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<v Speaker 7>I think I think that you know, listening, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>have the yields like they were last you know, would

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<v Speaker 7>fall right when when the ten year hit five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's people we're talking six percent.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're three eighty five. You can make a good

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<v Speaker 7>case of inflation's coming down. We think bonds offer some

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<v Speaker 7>good value. We think tax free municipal bonds offer a

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<v Speaker 7>really good value because they're backed up by a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of supply. So there's a lot of high quality, investment

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<v Speaker 7>grade intermediate longer bonds and four percent plus tax feels

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<v Speaker 7>that's like over seven.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're computing if you're looking at the curve. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned muni's, But where would you go on the curve?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you go shorter duration at this point?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, We would barbell it with some short

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<v Speaker 7>term bonds, but also some bonds out in fifteen years

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<v Speaker 7>or so, fifteen to twenty years, because you're getting about

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<v Speaker 7>ninety percent plus of the available yields out in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 7>So we think that is very good value and listen.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that if Democrats win, you have a good

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<v Speaker 7>chance of tax rates going up, so they present some

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<v Speaker 7>good value, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>What a pleasure, what a treat, say aboad to David.

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<v Speaker 5>Really nice to see a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>John Whosso.

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<v Speaker 2>He is of course Chief executive Officer, Director of Fixed

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<v Speaker 2>in Coomic Humberland Advisors.

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