WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Spike Lee (Part 2) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.559 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.960 welcome to part two of q LS Classic with the 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.280 Great Spike Lee. We have so many questions about the 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.280 illustrious cinematic history. You know, we're just nerves here at 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.240 Quest Love Supreme. We hope you enjoy part two of 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.920 our journey with Spike Lee. Let's go. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.839 Again another film. The last time I father scored were 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.959 my films, and he. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.080 Was ready and willing to be actually in the film 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:43.280 because that was like his first life. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.479 Part part of the part of the score. Did I 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:56.120 not hear some of those score motifs in later films? 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:02.600 The I felt there's one particular score piece. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.080 There's one piece of Terrence Blanchet wrote that that we 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:13.800 used later to say, it's the thing. It's called song 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.160 for Soweto I love. Yeah, and that's the one he's 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.280 playing on the Brooklyn Bridge. Terrence blanche wrote that, Okay, 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.440 so here's the thing. Note with those scores with the 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:30.240 school Day's score, do the right thing, and Branford with 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.880 school Days do the right thing. Mo better blues in 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:38.000 the orchestra. My father scored. You had Terrence Blanchard. I 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:44.920 mean you had Terrence so for more better blues. When 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.800 you hear Wesley, that's Branford. Denzel is Terrence blanche So 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:54.639 they were both given the actors. You know, my favorite 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.760 got to be a musician how to play the instruments. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.400 This is one I want to ask you because there's 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.400 a scene that you do that not many musicians notice. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.280 But because I was coming up and starting about the 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.480 inter college and stuff and like mo, I'll say that 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.080 it's where even though I don't pick mo Beta Blues 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.000 as like, okay, that might be my spike leave film 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.080 of choice. It's just like maybe it chose me. But 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:26.920 so there's the scene where Denzel interrupts uh. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:29.840 Yeah. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.320 So there's a point you watch if you watch Wesley 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.960 and it's done and it's even on the soundtrack. It's like, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.760 how did you Is it written in the script that okay, uh, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.760 Denzel's character is going to interrupt Wesley's sack solo. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.840 Yeah, because that desk that's all done the playback, so 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.360 we had to had to be in the script. So 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:52.840 when we recorded it. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.880 So at what point did you say exactly five minutes 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.000 and thirty four seconds, I want you to interrupt. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.560 It wasn't exactly, but but the script says he has 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:08.560 I mean structurally and for a dramatic Denzel his character 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:13.200 but get him has been humiliated. And so these two 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:20.079 brothers who are at odds, want to show shadow Henderson's 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.360 his humanity, his love for his brother. So he's like 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.520 picking him up, let me save you, saving him. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.400 I'm not even talking about the end. I'm talking at 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.080 the very beginning, the very not even the battle just 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:32.960 and that's this thing. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.600 It was so much that see what I'm talking about. 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.880 It was so minuscule at the very beginning, when you're 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.320 you're egging on Denzel like yo, man, he's so in 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.320 for thirty six bars, get him, go and get him. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.560 And then we worked out in the recording stoo because 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.040 all this stuff is done, done, done, done, and you 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.600 know the playback. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.880 I realized you were on some next ship because any 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.160 in lesser hands, I felt like that scene would have 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.000 been an interrupted scene. I don't know. Just as a musician, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:04.960 I hate watching music, miss. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.200 It the same way I hate watching basketball films. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:14.560 Really, yes, even though I want the dog that. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.000 Somebody shoots, there's the cut to the basket and the 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:17.760 ball goes in. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.839 So why were you not allowed to call it a 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:20.479 Love Supreme? 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.760 Oh? Alice Cole tranp uh did not like the profanity 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.440 and sex in the film in the script, so I said, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.680 you let her read it first. Yeah, I mean that, 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:38.680 that's she she requested that. But I did care about 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.200 the title. I just wanted love. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:45.000 Supreme because when doing that period. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.279 Because we do. It's funny because every film we had, 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.160 like we make Jackets, the crew Jackets, the Crew Jackets 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.200 said Love Supreme. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.719 I was gonna say, why do you because like with rappers, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.520 we will send the clean version of that song for 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:03.640 the sample to get cleared. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.520 Yeah, yeah, I cannot do that. The junk cold Tran's 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:07.520 wife could not. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.000 Yeah, but in the name of art, you know, older 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.400 people don't. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.800 I cannot do that. But I think most In fact, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.840 a friend of mine who I went to school with, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.839 Patty Hale's, She's one that came up with the title 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.919 MO Better Wow. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.320 By this time, I'm not that I'm adding, but I 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.880 will say I'm I too. Am a fan of the 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.360 spike love scenes. So by more Better Blues, the numbers 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.120 had come up, you know, what I'm saying, like from 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.800 school days. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.320 From junkle Fever, what do you mean numbers? 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.800 Numbers? Like as many scenes? It was more. It was like, yeah, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:41.800 more sex, more sex. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.440 It was Denzel and Senda, and then it was Senda 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.160 and Wesley and then it. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.400 Was the scenes. What's the question? 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.000 The question is what is your love scene philosophy? I 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.960 guess I would ask Spike because they are so a 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:56.919 party of movies. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:03.280 People think those things sexy, but they are hard to shoot. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.280 It's hard, people uncomfortable and. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.479 You shot your sister, So what is that like? 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:18.560 Yeah, she read the script. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.040 Then they read the script and they were cool. I 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:26.599 was cool. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:33.400 And so the scene, uh, where she delivers the baby, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:38.280 we had. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.400 We went up to Harlem hospital and we knew about 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.480 the We we we went to the doctor and say 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.200 when is somebody can be born this day? Hm hmmm. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.160 So they can predict, you know. So we we had 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:59.760 several people who signed up and uh, we got the call. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.000 We rushed to the hospital and filmed the birth. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.200 I was going to say this point, you had leverage 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.360 because you were Spike Lee and. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:10.760 It was a Harlem hospital. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.160 I'm just I'm just saying that by that point, I 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.840 doubt like you got that. I mean, I'm sure you've 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.200 gotten your share of nose from the Hollywood system. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.760 But like, but the whole the hospitals found as long 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.720 as you get permission from the moms and the family. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:31.640 People film births all the time. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.480 So if the people that you know, if they prove it, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.760 then they approve of it being used in the film, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:37.480 then what's the problem. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.160 But I'm certain that I would get well not I'm 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.920 sure that your Joe Schmoe filmmaker would get funk out 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.480 of here. I'm not, you know, as opposed to it's 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:47.920 an honor. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.880 I met her too, okay one day, said, you know 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.040 I was in More Better Blues, So yeah, what role 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:05.920 you feel it being booked? She was like a teenager. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.080 That's crazy. That's where I wanted to see, Like as 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.840 the VC, this is my. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:18.360 First immortalized forever man. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.560 Nothing that film. I didn't expect it to take the 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.520 turn that it took f the end and every musician. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:32.199 Man, but here's the thing, though, A mirror that doesn't 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:38.080 come from music, that comes from sports. So you just 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.360 what I did, because you know, any athlete. Now let's 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.560 say let's let's say, most athletes, whatever sport is, they 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.439 started playing it. They started playing it when they're a 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:48.040 little kid. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.160 And so. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.120 At a certain point, you see, I'm going to try 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:58.239 this is what I want to do. So just like musicians, athletes, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:04.360 whatever sport, they spend all their time developing the skill. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.240 So what happens I was thought about these athletes who 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:13.760 are very young blow out their knee or their armed. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.559 I want you to save my life, you. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.120 Know, and then they're like, they're like twenty twenty five and. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.480 Like and retiring. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:26.120 Yeah, so I just that premise of a career and 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.960 an injury. I just moved that to music to a 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:30.640 trumpet player. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.360 That's still one of the hardest things to watch. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.520 Yeah, that was a Yeah. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.680 That was another movie that I saw it as a kid, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.040 but seeing it older, that was when it really guys like. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:43.720 And musicians they turn that yes, yeah, child, they turned 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.400 no musician like I actually played. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.360 They know they know what you know what this time 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.960 out what I'm jumping in? 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:54.320 Uh? 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.960 Like through middle school, I was like first chair, all 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.240 State ban all that. Can you be a guest on 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.400 your own reas? I don't know this, I thought, I 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:09.079 tell yeah, yeah you Grammy nominated freaking acting man, you 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:09.720 do everything? 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.480 He missed The Humble Tea Manids. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:23.440 How did you discover Williams audition? Was she Robbie Reid 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.200 still Robbie Reid cool? So we gotta get right yes, 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.160 here into the street. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.920 Or it's a combination of both. You have to go 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.160 find new talent or does she have interns that like, no, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.960 you go to you go you find new talent. Also 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.640 people sending her agents are sending her people to the 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:43.640 combination of both. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:45.000 Mm hmm. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.680 Wow was her first film Williams? 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.839 I mean fast forward years years later. But were you 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.840 proud when you kind when you watched the new Additional 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:53.920 Story because that was really great? 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.480 Cast into that she she did. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.320 Rob Yeah, did do that. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:57.679 That's right. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.280 She's I mean, she's a top executive at BT. No, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.760 I mean she's done great. I mean Ruth Carter one 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.480 of the top costume designers again her class of Hanton 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:14.040 two chemical nominations for Malcolm X and Amistad. So Rufe's 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.160 doing the thing, you know. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:22.680 Speaking of Academy, how did you feel about that? That 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.200 was a very awkward thing, like thesenger, Oh. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.600 I know you're talking about why do you explain it 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.840 because I remember. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.920 Yeah, I remember watching the Academy and it's basically like 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.720 Kim bassengers just went off script and said that. You know, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.040 it was like the very first Oscars a white moment 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.600 where the the the glaring omission of Do the Right 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:50.120 Thing getting nominated for Best Picture, Best Picture, and it 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:51.800 made literally everyone. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:55.920 We had two nominations. Danny got one for supporting Supporting 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:06.199 Yeah he lost the Denzel Denzel cried right and and screenplay. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.320 Yeah. So you know, she just made mentioned that, you know, 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.280 you know, it's the glaring omission of and I almost 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.200 feel like even I mean back. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:19.640 Then said said, yeah, she said it like she really 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.040 went off script and went rogue. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.320 But I was just like, m she didn't get black balled. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.640 Let me find out. They just not like, yeah, let's 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.360 script it in just to you know, keep them at 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:36.600 bay and to keep them satisfied and not protesting us 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.160 and whatever. But were you in the art I was there, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.000 How did you feel? Were you shocked? I was shocked 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.320 because you lost the driving His Days that was that 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:44.720 the year. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.960 Was Driving as motherfucking Day. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.679 I like that movie Wait. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.400 The best picture of the year that date. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.320 Were you was do the Right thing up for the 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.400 palmdor that year or was that for ju No we 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.280 lost it to h Was that Jungle Fever? 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.839 Or no, do the right thing? We lost to uh 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.480 Sex Lives of the Tape? Wow? 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.960 So was that that another movie I haven't thought about 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.920 in thirty exactly? Was that that we was robbed? 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:17.120 Here? 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.720 Damn you damn near the Kanye of your pre Kanye 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.040 Kanye is a spike of his. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.320 No wonder you ain't show up to get that jo 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.800 on that look look bested up? 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:32.440 So with with with Jungle Fever? I know that com 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.160 Film Festival was so moved by Samuel Jackson's performance. Did 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.280 they invented best supporting? The category? 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:41.520 Just made it up right? 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.520 So they decided to have supporting categories so that Sam 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.560 could win. Did he win or no he won? 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:47.680 They made up? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.559 He better went if they made up. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.439 It was all stand I mean, Sam, I mean that 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.800 that for me. You know people might talk about, uh 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.120 that turned yeah, but it was really jungle for you. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.600 And the Sam has even said to himself, was. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.040 He actually still going through fighting his addiction at the time? 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.640 He was, but he just I was the last one 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.760 to find out. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.240 You didn't know I didn't know. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.440 Wow, So how much of that role is scripted? Like 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.440 I really I kind of want to even go like 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:21.080 scene by scene. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.680 It's weird. I'm like, how much did he improve at 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:24.400 the dance? 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.560 You know how I do it. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.720 Here's the thing though, so again, this is how it 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.320 buries first film. So while we rehearse in rehearsal process, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.320 he's taking hoghly all his former spots. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.960 Wow, what she said he taught her how to be 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:49.480 a crackhead. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.760 Damn he was taking like so that I mean, that's 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.880 I mean due to the right. Then here's the thing though, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.360 I like to say real quick because I know we 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.880 gotta want to move move ahead. But people, we all 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.640 know what a misdirection play is in football, right. The 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:15.440 misdirection and Jungle Fever was the inter racial relationship between 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:23.240 and Wes Annabella Shore and wealthy character. The real story, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.360 which a lot of people miss, is the effect of 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.720 crack on black families. That's what Jungle Fever is about. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.520 See, I've always about religion and black family because to. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.200 Me that that things, but that that comes with Ozzy 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.080 and Ruby. But also we also get the whole thing 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.320 with Marvin gay senr. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.040 Right, and mar You know that that comes directly from Yeah, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.800 I felt that the that's that's where it. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.240 Came from Senior killing his son, Marvin. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.400 Gay, because I felt like that was the father. Maybe 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.880 the son was the crack story and the Holy Ghost 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.320 was the interracial relationship as far as like subplot lines whatever. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:10.160 But dude, no scene has ever scared the ship out 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.320 me more than Charlie Murphy. He was how. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.360 Yes, No, that was that was the old ballroom. I 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.400 think of Abostinian Ballroom, which which is in it was just. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:23.920 In decay. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:30.040 But what I do is there great songs. Why just 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:36.240 make a mental checklist, And I said, one day I'm 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.880 going to use I just gotta find the right scene. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.560 But motherfucker, I'm gonna use that. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:45.640 Yeah. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.320 And the way it matched up with the lyrics and and. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.760 The touch of I don't know if it was maybe 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.600 on television at the time, but when I seen it 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.880 as he got closer to the crackhouse, there was more 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.200 of like a green tint of I don't don't know 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.080 if you guys used to filter or not, or what. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:13.600 Kind of TV do you sody? Why would the TV? 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:20.400 I how many extras was that? How many extras. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.679 Had a thousand. We wanted we wanted that to be 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.639 like that famous scene from God with the Wind where 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.959 they all the Confederate soldiers are like on the ground 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:31.800 and injured. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.640 Did you have to pay them all? 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:43.439 Yes? At the point did the sack rules up a 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.359 certain point that to be SAG members. After that we 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.080 said number then you just they don't have to be. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.919 Sacked non unions like me, I take that dollars. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:58.440 Really, but that that that that and then the thing. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.439 It's a great scene. But then at the Wesley Leaves 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.560 where the whole when when divin the crack coat golsness 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.240 pocket goes and makes some pockets and sees it here 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.960 he's been holding on crack like I mean here sucking 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.720 dicks for you, and I mean like and she was 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.080 she was, yes, she was smacking this ship out of us. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:21.800 Then she came around and then she was like, now 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.280 smoked this ship because she's seen that he was in. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.160 Yeah, I mean that's that's one. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.040 I mean, how take how many hours was it? That 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:30.760 was one day? 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.640 That whole scene an entire day in there? 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:34.760 Damn? 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:35.760 When did you know that? 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.880 Like Ruby d and Ozzie Davis just believed in what 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.000 you were going to do. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:41.320 That's an amazing accomplished. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.840 My father had done this thing called I Forgot the play, 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:46.760 but he did the music for it, and they were 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.440 in it. So I've always known them and loved their work. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.359 And uh just I've been blessed to work with Ruby 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.800 d I mean with first, as you mentioned before school days, 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:04.840 co Oldham didn't do the right thing, the mayor Ruby 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.760 mother's sister. Then you got them playing together, husband and 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:15.919 wife and jungle fever. Then uh, Ozzie getting and get on. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:16.720 The bus, get on the bus. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.600 But then we brought his people. And remember, don't forget this. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.040 We bought Ozzie back. Did we do. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:27.440 Malcolm eulogy? 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:35.720 He back and Steard? We do that? So giants, giants. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.320 By that point, Uh, Spike Lee, the media star, I 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:48.040 mean you were constantly on Nightline. Uh seen you on 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.119 Phil Donahue, Seeing you on I mean you were like, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.399 you know, well the point where you're like the the 0:19:55.520 --> 0:20:00.320 black spokesperson or the angry militant black spokesperson. And I 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.399 remember doing your Donna Hue appearances that you were, you know, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.639 a little myth that you were being asked like where 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.280 the drugs like, how come you haven't dealt with the 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.879 crack epidemic? Kettering where you know? How come there was 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.680 no crack? And do the right Wall Street? 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.800 I mean we that was a big criticism of do 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.200 the right thing, that the streets were clean, that that 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.000 that there was no crack and stuff like that. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.080 But that was. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.639 A conscious decision. That was another film, which was was 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:35.800 Jungle Fever. But I mean, I mean I made the 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.639 comment because Wall Street. You know those marvels, right, I 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.879 mean there was no any I mean any of that 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:43.520 stuff in there. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.720 But did you feel the pressure at that point like Okay, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.320 I gotta I gotta do a crack movie now, or 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:48.880 you know. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.280 No, it wasn't the pressure. It was just seeing the 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.760 devastation of a crack. I mean, we're still dealing with 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.919 crack because we had a generation of people who are 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.480 beautiful Black people grew up without parents in the homes 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.720 and mothers. 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.960 They killed the moms. Like every other drug was kind 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.200 of like social whatever. 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.280 Took people's soul. I mean, we always had drugs, be hairmal. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:16.560 Stuff like that. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.080 But crack. This thing was was a devilish. 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:26.359 The infamous uh Sister Girls scene, I forgot what you 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:26.800 called it. 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:33.160 Yeah, I forgot what you're going one day, I'm going 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.240 back to the vaults. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.960 I want to see the full what do. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.199 You call it in the film? Don't go in there 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.239 there because that's the you had a special title for it. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.600 Told them don't go in there because they're having. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:44.320 A Yeah you did. 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.000 I forget the title. But was that. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.800 No, that was not around it. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.600 You just let the cameras run, talk about all your 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.119 all the bags when you ever had your life with 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:56.600 black men? 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.479 So basically it was it was a day on Twitter. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.439 Wait so then that was there each their individual real experiences. Yes, wow, 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.480 so Teresa when Theresa was like. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.840 How data mall? And you know, oh. 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:19.280 My god, that could have been a movie alone we 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.399 have that was the the least that for two hours. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.960 Wow. I have to okay, I have to play Devil's 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:30.880 advocate because I know that there's been criticism of your 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:35.760 representation of women and how the scripted, which I was 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.520 asking like, well, damn, that seemed pretty realistic. But they 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:46.000 were so how especially with Phillis yvon Stickney, who always 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:52.320 felt was so underutilized. At no point did you think like, okay, 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.000 I have to give her a piece so that she can. 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.320 No, I saw Phyllis her One man Shows, I mean 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.119