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Speaker 1: in Ohio. What is going on? Everybody's John Middlecop three

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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast. I thought I'd do a little Sunday

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Speaker 1: middle Cop mail bag before the Super Bowl. It's finally here.

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Speaker 1: We have one more football game. Coward will join me

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Speaker 1: tonight after the Chiefs an Eagles game. I have the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs tonight. Don't feel great about it, but I'm taking

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Other than that, just watch a little golf

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Speaker 1: right now at home, hanging out. Uh didn't go to

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Speaker 1: the tournament today, Like every single other human being alive.

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Speaker 1: I think I peaked for Super Bowl week around Thursday night. Um,

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Speaker 1: I got a little intoxicated, So Friday was a struggle.

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Speaker 1: Today the work day. You know, you gotta keep the

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Speaker 1: content flowing. So we got a Middlecoff mail back, very

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Speaker 1: easy at John Middlecopp is the Instagram fire in those

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Speaker 1: d ms. Get your question Naiser here on the show.

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Speaker 1: Very very easy to do. Let's start with I think

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Speaker 1: you say it's a cash Hey, John, I hope you're

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Speaker 1: enjoying Super Bowl Week as an Eagles fan. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm about to explode any minute anticipation. Don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty fired up to listen to your pot

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Speaker 1: from yesterday. And had a thought, if the Raiders can't

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Speaker 1: find a trade for Car, could they trade him to

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Speaker 1: Tampa for Brady rights. I don't think Brady's coming back,

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Speaker 1: but if he does, then Vegas has the rights and

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Speaker 1: that would be better than just simply cutting Car. Thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Brady was a free agent. Brady could have gone wherever

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Speaker 1: he wanted so that Tampa no longer has his rights.

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Speaker 1: Part of it was, you know, the conversation around Tom

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Speaker 1: the open market now. Well, I think we'd all be

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Speaker 1: naive to think that they didn't have some idea. You know,

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Speaker 1: last forty eight hours? I want to say, Chefter. I

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Speaker 1: just saw Schefter post he's uh, who was he with?

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Speaker 1: He was with Booker McFarlane and some other famous guy

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Speaker 1: at at the Gulf Sturm Schefters living his life. That

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Speaker 1: Tom uh filed the paperwork, So I mean, it's that's

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Speaker 1: not nothing. You know, you see a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that retired don't file the paperwork now just because you retire.

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Speaker 1: Like J. J. Watt made a joke. I think this

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Speaker 1: I guess my take on it is that Tom's probably done.

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Speaker 1: And the car. You know, it's February if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this is the twelve they have to decide financially

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Speaker 1: I would I expect car to get cut and just

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Speaker 1: do like a handshake deal with the Saints, Like why

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Speaker 1: until like a cut, we'll use that third round pick,

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Speaker 1: But I don't expect trade. I'm a farmer from the

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Speaker 1: about Morikawa? I can't find the stream, but I tailed

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Speaker 1: Um no, no more gambling on golf, Chiefs, and then

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Speaker 1: How much is that pick really worth to the Colts

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Speaker 1: The Bears got Mr Whisky, the Niners took Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Everyone would like a redo on that. You just would

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Bears and I'm going to trade back,

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Speaker 1: because I would just have no problem taking one of

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Speaker 1: Like I'd be thinking big picture here, you know. I

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Speaker 1: I want serious animule. We got so far to go.

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Speaker 1: If I'm the Bears, my team is so terrible, I

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Speaker 1: need so many assets that I would think bigger picture

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Speaker 1: than just moving back one spot. Huge fan of the pod,

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Speaker 1: listening to the listening for a couple of years. Now, Now,

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Speaker 1: can these players take themselves seriously? With how much they

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Speaker 1: came into the game as the hottest team in football

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Speaker 1: with Purdy and the Birds knocked him out due to

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Speaker 1: the best pass rushing football. Eagles went through the same

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Speaker 1: this Niners team, and to the Niners are getting asked

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Speaker 1: about it, like they're constantly getting asked Deebo, Samuel, Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: George Kittle when they do these interviews and in their

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Speaker 1: minds like they didn't even get a chance. That's a fact.

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Speaker 1: They did not get a chance. Now, I've said all

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Speaker 1: along Kyle Shanahan blocking Hassan Reddick with the backup tight end.

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Speaker 1: He deserved shipped for it. But I do understand the players,

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Speaker 1: like this is bullshit. If they were bitching and moaning

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily have them like, what are they supposed to say, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they would have kicked our ass anyway. No, Like, I

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Speaker 1: I do get it, you know. Now. I saw Robbie

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Speaker 1: Gold make some comments about Jalen Hurts, like that's where

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Speaker 1: I draw the line, but like Deebo Samuel, Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: I've said over and over Slay said that some of

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Speaker 1: Kittle's comments leading into the game piste them off. And

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Speaker 1: it up. But this isn't golf. Like, ultimately, George and people,

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Speaker 1: the Niners have lost if they were healthy the whole time,

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Speaker 1: I'm starving right now. Enjoy the super Bowl and uh,

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