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Speaker 7: I like pretty girls, Girls Girls, Welcome Li Mama is

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Speaker 6: The podcast where we dive deep deep into the pocket

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Speaker 7: You know I've been thinking, yeah, man, I was really

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Speaker 7: it's not about grinding it's about like relentless pursuit of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just like it's like so many things, especially

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Speaker 6: I just like driven and Jamail, you ain't got to

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Speaker 7: But you have all come on, that's the point of

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Speaker 7: You took it this personally. I hate basketball players because

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Speaker 6: And it does make me feel more passionate in a

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Speaker 7: It's so cool.

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Speaker 6: She She is a force a person you know from

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Speaker 8: People start thinking that, like I'm not a fun person.

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Speaker 6: It seems like people just don't play about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 6: We We didn't even come here to talk about any No,

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Speaker 7: I do remember, though, I was like, I think.

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Speaker 6: You've evolved the conversation is what I mean to say.

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Speaker 6: But you said, my mama told me.

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Speaker 8: Only black celebrities get put into the Illuminati, and.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Illuminati. I'm struggling to understand what it is,

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Speaker 8: Of the Illuminati.

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Speaker 6: That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Is it Is it just world domination? Is it, you know,

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Speaker 6: Does seem to need to be some kind of yeah, like.

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Speaker 8: Like they needs some structure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Because it's also because I think if it was

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Speaker 7: there's no you don't ever nobody's ever like oh, all

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Speaker 6: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 7: You?

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Speaker 6: Like, I think my my I think my orthopedi is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making a lot of money, just like who

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Speaker 8: Just your runner, the male business person.

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Speaker 6: Like actors, Yeah, you weren't really good at anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a lot got it.

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Speaker 6: Some type of a higher order.

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Speaker 1: But you never hear white celebrities being put in the Illuminati.

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Speaker 8: And I was like, is it racial?

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Speaker 1: What is the racial divide there? Like you don't you

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Speaker 7: Lastly, I was gonna say a rose by any other name,

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Speaker 7: write what the top of scientology? That's what I think.

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Speaker 6: I think that that certainly, if we're talking about goals, right,

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Speaker 6: intention is like co op. I think they're like a

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Speaker 6: it's like this shared work of just keeping our co

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Speaker 6: of what this institution represents, so long as you're willing

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Speaker 8: This, this sounds like the co op that prop Joe

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Speaker 1: I like this, I mean, Marlow eventually gonna be like

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Speaker 6: And I think and there are some arguments to be

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Speaker 6: by the the alcohol company that asked him to do it.

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Speaker 6: Whatever he said no. This is the hero story they

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Speaker 6: always tell. Did he said no, I'm a business of

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Speaker 8: It's like the evolution of Bill Cosby was buying NBC.

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Speaker 6: There we got right right, It's like that which which

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Speaker 6: we now know to be true. That's one hundred pru.

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Speaker 6: He was legitimately trying to buy NBC. But where people

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Speaker 6: funk around is the years are way off from what

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Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: That like this like the this was no. This was

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Speaker 6: just don't fuck or we don't want you to be

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Speaker 6: the guy. And so like he was legitimately trying to

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Speaker 6: way people wanted to, Like he did that and then

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Speaker 6: it was like, you know, ten years before anybody even

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because I totally thought that was completely false

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Speaker 7: You know what I always think about the Black Illuminati.

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Speaker 7: I'm just thinking about this. It's also like have some

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Speaker 1: Oh so you feel like it's not enough legacy.

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Speaker 7: And that's like how you build a strong base, right,

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Speaker 7: but you're letting all these first time celebrities in money

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Speaker 7: issue with the Black Illuminati is like saving for your children?

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Speaker 7: How how far into your career do you have to

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Speaker 1: Is there a money minimum?

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Speaker 11: Two?

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Speaker 1: Being about the three names you hear about the most

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Speaker 1: in the Illuminati are Oprah, jay Z, and Beyonce, Right,

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Speaker 1: those three are there other black multi.

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Speaker 6: Who's the woman who owns BT, Deborah Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sheila Johnson was Bob Johnson's wife. Yeah, right, like

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Speaker 1: the Ladys made fun of.

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Speaker 8: Yes, right correct? Okay, so she is not or is

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Speaker 6: I I think if ain't in the Illuminati, it's not

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Speaker 6: a real institution. I think that's that's a powerful powerful figure.

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Speaker 8: Like you gotta If you don't have deb how good

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Speaker 6: That's what I would say, Yeah, because because if we're

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Speaker 6: talking about like for real not celebrity, she's not really

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Speaker 6: We don't even like what she makes, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean, Like everybody's always going like, man, fuck BT,

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Speaker 6: but you still know the president's name. That's no, I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying I'm not saying that's my position. I'm saying

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Speaker 6: that is the we've always been very sort of judgmental

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Speaker 6: beings and we still we still know to kiss the ring.

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Speaker 6: That's a powerful individual.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, though with BT's like this is

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Speaker 1: why I never understood the judgment. It's like we judge BT,

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Speaker 1: but watch the same ship somewhere else. It's like you

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Speaker 1: just don't want BET to show it. That's what this money.

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Speaker 7: That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 6: Yay boy, feel good wherever you watch it, go on.

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Speaker 7: I just want to watch the game.

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Speaker 8: Don't take away my marginity rise.

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Speaker 7: Also, I thought they went crazy with those new edition movies.

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Speaker 7: Did that those were great?

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Speaker 10: They did?

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Speaker 6: Thought they were pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my guilty Pleasure. BT watch is for my man.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is about women who have murdered

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Speaker 1: or done something. It's usually murdered, though it's not usually still,

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Speaker 1: it's usually like straight up murdered.

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Speaker 8: For my man.

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Speaker 6: Wow, it's a beautiful see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like First four eight, but it's like

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Speaker 1: the the It's like the Nigga version of snapped, Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what that's like what it is. And it's like

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Speaker 1: all women and they just like yeah, like for my man,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just down.

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Speaker 8: For my man.

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Speaker 6: Like everyone that's available on that app.

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Speaker 1: It is available on the app.

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Speaker 8: It is on BT.

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Speaker 1: It is Supreme watching and it's like a Hype Williams video,

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Speaker 1: Like it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: I really really like everything about that BT.

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Speaker 7: Like I've always like I.

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Speaker 8: Had no issue with BT.

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Speaker 1: If anything, My issue is like they don't take enough

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Speaker 1: chances right, and it's like there's things like the New

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Speaker 1: Addition went to me was was a very very strategic swing, right.

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Speaker 8: They know the audience they were going for.

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Speaker 1: They drilled down on what is the story that's important

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Speaker 1: to black culture, and they told it right, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of those opportunities that's out there

446
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Speaker 1: for them.

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Speaker 7: I also kind of oversaturated the market though, because they

448
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Speaker 7: did New Edition, then they did the Bobby Brown, which

449
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 7: is also amazing three movies, but then they also had

450
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Speaker 7: the Bobby Like they just kind of like, it's like

451
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Speaker 7: we only nine of these movies. There's started out a

452
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Speaker 7: little bit.

453
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Speaker 8: We'll get that Ralph transplant.

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Speaker 1: Don't you know?

455
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Speaker 6: What I want is a Shine movie. I've been seeing.

456
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Speaker 8: They don't have a movie, but.

457
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Speaker 6: That's a film that's a life for the film, right,

458
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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I I don't think I'm going to be shy.

460
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Speaker 6: No, thank you, that's cool. That's cool in that way. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 6: I'm all good on being shy.

462
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Speaker 1: But I mean the conspiracy theory with the Illuminati, with

463
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Speaker 1: the other thing I also wonder about it other than

464
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Speaker 1: like what's the goal, what's the agenda?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know what, Will Smith he was the other

467
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Speaker 1: one that's supposed to be the ILLUMINAI.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he was an early I would say early.

469
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was an.

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Speaker 1: Early favorite the Illuminati.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. I think that's like the Smith family in general,

472
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Speaker 7: I think is like maybe the number one thing I

473
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Speaker 7: think about when.

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Speaker 6: You think about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I guess my question that's also maybe my age as well,

476
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Speaker 7: and like, you know, me growing up seeing Will Smith's catastrophic,

477
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Speaker 7: you know, the whole rise.

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Speaker 6: My question off of that then, and this is for

479
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Speaker 6: us at large, is are we the ones that are

480
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Speaker 6: making the Illuminati black?

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean that?

482
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Speaker 6: Like, are we because this is who we're consuming, that

483
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Speaker 6: is the names we're circulating, rather than it being like

484
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Speaker 6: oh everybody's they have They talk about the Illuminati in

485
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Speaker 6: the white community, we're just not clocking in their life

486
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Speaker 6: they do. Yeah, I never hear them saying.

487
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Speaker 1: I just I don't think that they if they will,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think. If they do put

489
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Speaker 1: people in the Illuminati, if white people are out there,

490
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Speaker 1: they're putting people like Elon Musk in the Illuminati. Sure,

491
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Speaker 1: because so your point is like, we're putting all the entertainers,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's just because that's our obvious picture of wealth,

493
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Speaker 1: right is like the one we're more familiar with, the

494
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Speaker 1: sports figures, the entertainers, you know, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: For like white people, I think they would put in

496
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Speaker 1: like Elon Musk or the Rothschild or.

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Speaker 6: Hot Glue exactly. No, you don't get it. This mother,

498
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Speaker 6: you made Glue hot. He's pretty much the richest man

499
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Speaker 6: that ever was.

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Speaker 7: I have heard a lot of white people talk about

501
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Speaker 7: the Rothschild. So yeah, in a way that I don't

502
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Speaker 7: love bringing it up on this podcast.

503
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Speaker 6: The Vanderbilts, you know, American family, they will put in

504
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Speaker 6: the Illuminati.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know if that reflects just where.

506
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Speaker 1: We are as black people, the fact that we are

507
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Speaker 1: you're putting like, yes, Oprah, it's got to be hers.

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Speaker 8: She's the richest black woman ever, you know what I'm saying.

509
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Speaker 7: But when we talk about these richer white families, I

510
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Speaker 7: think there is also a level of like, you know,

511
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Speaker 7: there are presidents in the school and bones or whatever,

512
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Speaker 7: like all that kind of stuff is is that not

513
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 7: Illuminati is Obama?

514
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 8: Now Illuminati is Obama?

515
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 7: Pok Absolutely, I really can't tell. I waffle with him,

516
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 7: waffle with him?

517
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Speaker 1: Is it?

518
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 6: You think he's you think he's like, uh not, you

519
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 6: think he's chilling.

520
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 7: I think I want him to be a good man,

521
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 7: so bad and I see I see this current Jennifer

522
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 7: Aniston situation. Look, if he was in, if it wasn't

523
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 7: the Illuminati, they would have thrown him a friend.

524
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: They give you a.

525
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 7: Friend, friend, you get a friend if you're in the Illuminati, right.

526
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Speaker 1: Do you mean like an actual member of the friends

527
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Speaker 1: castle do you mean?

528
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're in the black Illuminati, they let

529
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Speaker 7: you fu one of the friends. I do think that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Corny CODs what anyone anyone?

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Speaker 6: It could be David Swimmer, is that David?

532
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Speaker 8: Yes, he's a friend, he's a friend.

533
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 7: Friend.

534
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, Why did you get a friend? If friend and

535
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 6: it doesn't leak? Yeah? I think I think it would

536
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 6: be absurd to call an American president somehow safe from

537
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 6: the Illuminati, that he's like not tapping in over there.

538
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 6: You think every president was in the.

539
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Illuminati, Carter, When if we were really in the Illuminati,

540
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Speaker 1: he would have lasted he wouldn't be on that list

541
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Speaker 1: of incumbents that loss.

542
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Speaker 6: I think the I think that's why they they got mad.

543
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 6: Y'all have to remember that Jimmy Carter wasn't like this

544
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 6: groundbreaking dude right from the start. He came in and

545
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Speaker 6: then started doing them fireside chats and acting funny and

546
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 6: being weird to them, and they were like, hey, hey, whoa,

547
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: whoa was too human, he was too rumen. He was

548
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Speaker 6: seeing those meetings, he was experiencing what they were doing

549
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 6: in there, and he was going, bro, I gotta talk

550
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: to the people, right, this is crazy, right. And then

551
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 6: they were like, fine, you'll go. We don't care.

552
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we wanted Billy anyways.

553
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, well were replaced your brother, Billy, you drunk brother.

554
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Vaguely.

555
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Speaker 8: I didn't remember his name. Every president I don't.

556
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Speaker 6: I don't give anyone who ain't.

557
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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think JFK was in the Illuminati.

558
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Speaker 7: I don't think he was.

559
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Speaker 8: He'd be here.

560
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Speaker 6: Did you think they don't let that shot get off?

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Speaker 1: If the Illuminati, I mean, if he was really part

562
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Speaker 1: of the illuminatus, there's got to be some.

563
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Speaker 7: Pretecition at what I'm saying, right, Like, as I think

564
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Speaker 7: there were.

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Speaker 6: I guess what I'm saying is I think that if

566
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Speaker 6: the Illuminati is in fact this this real co op

567
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 6: as we are now understanding it, that it is. It

568
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: is like any co op where if you rub the

569
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 6: wrong people wrong, you will find yourself put out quickly,

570
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: or up charged, or or in debt, in danger in

571
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Speaker 6: a way that you weren't previously.

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Speaker 1: I think if you if you've been assassinated there, I

573
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Speaker 1: don't think you've been a part of or the the

574
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Speaker 1: Illuminati didn't accept you. It was something you didn't do.

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Speaker 7: If there was an attempt, you think the same.

576
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: No, I think that's just a scare tactic, just trying

577
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Speaker 1: to scare your reactor.

578
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 6: I don't think they would have let Trump in because

579
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Speaker 6: he's a hillbilly.

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Speaker 10: Mmm.

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Speaker 1: He's uncouth, he is, But he also would try to

582
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: come in on some reckon ball shit and they like,

583
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Speaker 1: we down in certain order.

584
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Speaker 8: To our ship.

585
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 7: But everybody rejects him. That's his whole get down, right.

586
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 7: I don't know, y'all. I think we're talking about any.

587
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 8: Italians in them.

588
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 7: It's okay, this is not this is not no. It's

589
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Speaker 7: clearly an Italian word. It started in Italy. We haven't

590
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 7: talked about no Italian.

591
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Speaker 12: And everyone's crazy. Both of those things are not true words.

592
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 12: I think it's a Latin word that's different. I thought

593
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Speaker 12: it was about I thought it was Italian. That I

594
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 12: thought it was started by Gus.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're gonna find this on like a menu.

596
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 7: That is disappointing. I really thought it was based in Italy.

597
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 7: I thought it was like it was started over there

598
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 7: and came over here.

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00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: That sounds true, That felt right, Yeah, I was.

600
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 6: I was sitting here.

601
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I was like, no, sorry, but it did start in Europe.

602
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 6: It didn't start here.

603
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: That is true.

604
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 6: And maybe this is a good segue for us that

605
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 6: we're going to take a break and when we come back.

606
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 6: I did some research on the Illuminati that I'd like

607
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 6: to discuss, and we can we can see if we

608
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 6: can come to a conclusion on this whole thing, and

609
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: we can find where the Italians are, find those Italians.

610
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 6: We know you're in there. We'll be back with more,

611
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 6: Jamel Hill more, my mama told me.

612
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 5: But we're going to do this respectfully, otherwise we'll end

613
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: in a duel, and I mean a duel, real life

614
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: duel where only one person walks away. We can meet

615
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: with guns, bottles, knives, or books and equations, but we're

616
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 5: going to do this like men.

617
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 7: So get ready and get ready for this. Langston did

618
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 7: some research on the Illuminati.

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Speaker 1: I'm just imagining an equation fight.

620
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 8: That's what I was like, versus your wife.

621
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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do?

622
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're both curved. That's pretty cool. He's the funniest man,

623
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 6: pretty much the greatest guy. Jaml we We I did

624
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 6: some research. We were talking about the Italian roots of

625
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 6: the Illuminati moments ago, but the Illuminati is actually Bavarian.

626
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 6: It originally started in Bavaria.

627
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 8: Okay.

628
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 6: It was a secret society that operated from seventeen seventy

629
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Speaker 6: six to seventeen eighty five.

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Speaker 8: That's not a long run.

631
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Speaker 6: That is not long. Is it just a coincidence that

632
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 6: it started when America started?

633
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: WHOA, there you go connecting the dots.

634
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 6: Right, Okay, I don't know that I ever thought about that.

635
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 6: I don't know why it's seventeen seventy six, but it

636
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 6: did start exactly when America started and started.

637
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 8: It started.

638
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, this wasn't like a vacant parking last nobody's there.

639
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Speaker 1: So did they disclose who was in the Bavarian Alumni.

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00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 6: So it was started by a dude named Adam weisshopped.

641
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 6: I'm out, you don't like that.

642
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 7: That rubs you wrong. I thought it was Freddy' spaghetti

643
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 7: and them. It's a bunch of German dudes. It just

644
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 7: doesn't German. This doesn't seem nearly as interesting as I thought.

645
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 6: He a German lawmaker who believed strongly and enlightenment ideals

646
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: and specifically work to promote the principles among the elites.

647
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 6: So it was trying to get enlightenment to the elite

648
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 6: class of society. Always works well when Germans go that way.

649
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 8: It's such an amazing record.

650
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Speaker 6: Amazing you say, we not to goat but three for three.

651
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 7: Ras trying to talk about this, I was like, Oh,

652
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 7: this shit isn't even sexy anymore.

653
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 6: I thought it was a bunch of swab cloaks. But

654
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 6: they're naked underneath this kind of nasty. Do you think

655
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 6: about any of them eating sausages? Yeah, this is goofy shit.

656
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 6: They they It was a part of a European intellectual

657
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 6: movement of the seventeenth and eighteenth century that emphasized an

658
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: individualism and reasoning over tradition, which I will say then

659
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: kind of makes me feel like at least what people

660
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 6: claim about the Illuminati makes sense, right, that their intentions

661
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 6: are like gaining individual power beyond reason, like beyond like I.

662
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 8: Mean some talented shit basically right.

663
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Speaker 1: I mean, it might have been even less than ten

664
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Speaker 1: percent that they were trying to appeal these ideals to.

665
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 8: So does it does it say beyond that? Like what

666
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 8: were they trying to take.

667
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Over the world or they were just just trying to

668
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: enlightened the rich people and then I'm like, enlightened them

669
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: to do what?

670
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

671
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 7: Also, you said a hard end date, which makes me

672
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 7: wonder like they just were like they quit.

673
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, this kind of didn't work out.

674
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 6: We tried it. We ri y'all just want to stop

675
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 6: calling each other day. You ain't got to call me

676
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 6: mister no more. It's cool. Were friends.

677
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 7: It's just Rick.

678
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 6: It's just Rick now. So the group originally started with

679
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 6: six to nine guys and at its largest grow to

680
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 6: somewhere between and this is a pretty big range, six

681
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: fifty to twenty five hundred people. That's wow.

682
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: That's that that is not as indiscriminate as it seems

683
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: like it should be.

684
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: No, and you would think the Illuminati would have a

685
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 6: clearer track if they had that. But maybe that speaks

686
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: to some of like how it becomes this larger lore, right,

687
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 6: is that because they don't know exactly if it's six

688
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 6: fifty or two twenty five hundred, everybody becomes a weird

689
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 6: suspect of this organization that didn't really do shit. That's

690
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 6: what I was gonna ask, what are there noticable accomplishment.

691
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 7: Because it just still sounds like kind of some shitty

692
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 7: rich guys hanging out, Like.

693
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 6: Do they get anything done? They get some books. What's

694
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: weird is the Illuminati, at least in the beginning, was

695
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 6: largely opposed to the ruling class, like it was meant

696
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 6: to be like.

697
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 8: Like anti establishing, yeah.

698
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: Anti establishment shit, and they were closer to like anonymous

699
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like skull and bones type shit,

700
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 6: and then eventually found themselves shifting I think in part

701
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 6: because you can't get the elite together without them protecting largely. Right,

702
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 6: That's the danger of capitalism, as we talk about it,

703
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 6: is like I make money and then I start to

704
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 6: build a community with people who make money, and I can't.

705
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: I can't suck up your money no, yeah, cool, and

706
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: like not do bad things to your money, even though

707
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: I know your money is nasty.

708
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 7: I can't even really disrupt the system in a real way.

709
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: No, so that they clearly weren't trying to disrupt the system.

710
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: They were just trying to overtake it and be more powerful,

711
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: which is disappointing.

712
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 7: It was way better as Italians.

713
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: Who would be the lead Italian in the Italian?

714
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: That's a good question. And we're talking about are we

715
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 6: talking about current day?

716
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: You do current day?

717
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I think the fascists were in there, right, Mussolini.

718
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 8: Was probably okay, sure, yeah.

719
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 6: Now give us a fun one.

720
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 7: I mean, there's so many fun ones. There's such a

721
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 7: musical people. They're such a liheard I think FEI, I think.

722
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 6: Right, you're thinking of like over there Italian. Oh, I

723
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 6: was not thinking about you.

724
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 8: Weren't thinking about America. I wasn't thinking combination.

725
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 6: I thought drinking. Like Guy Fieri, Illuminati said that money,

726
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 6: that money kept him safe. He did something right, you

727
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 6: know what I mean? The person Tony Pansers probably kicked

728
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 6: up though, right, he's caked up.

729
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: In the universe.

730
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: And that's and that's what makes me think Illuminati because

731
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: something changed. This is that the Tony dance that we

732
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 6: grew up with. What the fun is he doing over there?

733
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 6: Unless he burned a bridge? Is his name of Tony

734
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 6: on power.

735
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 8: To like it's not? I feel like it's something else.

736
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 6: I hope his name is Tony and everything he does.

737
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 7: That's amazing.

738
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: That wasn't it. In Taxi too, he was Tony.

739
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 8: And oh my god.

740
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 7: He was always like, I think that's the way to

741
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 7: get into show business.

742
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: That's a really really that that would be great, Like, bro,

743
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: we can't even imagine you different.

744
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 7: You got to be.

745
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: He's allowed to be different types of Tony because he

746
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: was like the goofball, like dummy and Taxi right then,

747
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: he was.

748
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 6: Very different from Who's the Boss?

749
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Very different Who's the Boss? It took him like thirty

750
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: five years to finally get with Jude.

751
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 7: Of light.

752
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 6: Loss. He was like more smooth talking, yeah.

753
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Smooth talking, but yet a very progressive man for the time.

754
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 6: He was progressive because he worked in the house.

755
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 8: Because he was yeah, he was the house manager if

756
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 8: you will, and.

757
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 6: He protected those women he did. He really like was like, no, I.

758
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 7: Believe in y'all.

759
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 8: It raised.

760
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 6: He was like I'm dumb, so you're right right. That

761
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: was his whole thing every episode.

762
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 7: I really care for him on that show.

763
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 6: I was a mona guy whoa really Yeah she was spicy.

764
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

765
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 6: It's like the same as the Blanche guy as well.

766
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: It's like a.

767
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 8: You oh, you like the spicier. That's the word spicy white. Yeah, okay.

768
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 6: I think that I like older women who like to.

769
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Entertain seasons season ladies of Spice.

770
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 6: I will say that Blanche Blanche's stories always felt like

771
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: the life most lived. Like everybody else, they'd recount the

772
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: story and it's like, oh, that's kind of sad.

773
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Dorothy would be like like, I don't care what.

774
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 6: You have to say.

775
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: No, that was That was Betty White. That was Rose Roses.

776
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: Minnesota was the big old sad one.

777
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no, you're talking

778
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 6: about Arthur.

779
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 8: Arthur. Blanch was the.

780
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: Dorothy was.

781
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 7: Blanche had.

782
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 6: She had a guy named Big Daddy for a while

783
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 6: she was going crazy.

784
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 8: Blanch was a city girl.

785
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 7: That's what I liked.

786
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 8: I mean, and you know that's in Miami.

787
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: When you watch Golden Girls, it is like it was

788
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: ahead of his time in so many ways. And like

789
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: some of the episodes you forget about, like some of

790
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: the the deeper like social justice kind of episodes they had,

791
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: like I think our brother was gay that was why.

792
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, our brother was gay.

793
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: Then they did a racial they did a racial one,

794
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: but they did a couple of racial ones, and I

795
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: was like, look at Golden Girl.

796
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 7: Yeah. They By the way, I think that's the best

797
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 7: setup for a television show is give me whatever and

798
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 7: then let me see them face everything. I don't want

799
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: to see. If not everything has to be this niche

800
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 7: group and only what they experience, I don't mind. Just like,

801
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 7: give me five people and then have it all happened

802
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 7: to them. Like I like that, you know.

803
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 6: I do too. Carmichaels show did a good job with that.

804
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 6: They did the like, hey, this just is happening in

805
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 6: this area, so y'all gotta y'all gotta deal with it.

806
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

807
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's nice when it feels like they're living in

808
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: the same world that we live in.

809
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 8: So you no love for Sophia like that was she

810
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 8: was funny enough.

811
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 6: She was funny. She was funny, she was very wonderful,

812
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 6: she was cutting. I like that they never really wrote

813
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 6: any story for she never had much to do.

814
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean, she was just there really the roast people. Yeah,

815
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: that was that was like effectively.

816
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 6: Every once in a while she admits something to be

817
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 6: Arthur that like kind of rounded out the character. But

818
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 6: like it wasn't it wasn't a lot. Yeah, I mean

819
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 6: she was the oldest lady you know. I'm sorry, but

820
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 6: she was also the youngest lady life in real life.

821
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, she one the recent.

822
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: They didn't do her dirty though, crazy ye. And then

823
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: I remember it would freak me out when I would

824
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: see her not in the Golden Girls, like you know,

825
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: get up and it's like, oh my gosh, she's like

826
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: thirty years younger than the character she's playing.

827
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: No she's not.

828
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that Betty White was the last

829
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 6: yeahety nine.

830
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

831
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys asked the question, and I do

832
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: have an answer to it, but maybe we should take

833
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 6: the well no, no, we'll do this before we do

834
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: the break the question of how the Illuminator not he

835
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: got broken up. In seventeen eighty five, the Duke of

836
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 6: Bavaria banned all secret societies and the Illuminati was quote

837
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 6: unquote wiped out. Now, in seventeen ninety eight. This is

838
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 6: where it gets exciting. In seventeen ninety eight.

839
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like, hey, don't do it, Illuminati, right,

840
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 7: battalions would never.

841
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, Tony Danza never would you ever?

842
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 6: Come on? He well, it's this.

843
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: Who was it?

844
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: We don't know, but Angela it was one of the.

845
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 7: Exactly.

846
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 6: But in seventeen ninety eight, George Washington wrote a letter

847
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 6: about the Illuminati where he speculated that the rent had

848
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 6: largely been beaten, but mentioned the group helped their infamy

849
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 6: by sort of like not being clearly wiped out that

850
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: Like he said, they had largely been beaten, but he

851
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 6: left enough space in whatever he was saying that it

852
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 6: started to build lore around the Illuminati, and a few

853
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 6: other guys after that start to do something similar where

854
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 6: they're like acknowledge its existence but not fully be like

855
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 6: it's stupid, it's old, it doesn't exist anymore.

856
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Hmm. There's a lot of questions there, because those original

857
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Illuminatis have descendants, right where did those descendants wind up?

858
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: And you know, especially I imagine everybody went down to

859
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: just end the Illuminati, so they might have been teaching

860
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: another Illuminati class how to Illuminati.

861
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, okay, And that's my question though, is what

862
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: is how to illuminati? Because still sounds like they ain't

863
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 7: on shit. I mean, but if you got Jordan, they

864
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 7: got what they what are they doing? If you got

865
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 7: the President of the United States writing letters, you're a

866
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 7: mover and shaker. And yes, George Washington acknowledging it he

867
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 7: was a part of the illuminati. And I stand behind

868
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 7: the statement.

869
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: I feel like Andrew Jackson was too loose like that one.

870
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: I think they liked him the most. I think they

871
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 6: were like, look, I say, crazy ship, this nigga doesn't

872
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 6: that's cool.

873
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 8: I mean, he was a drunk.

874
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: He was like ambler. He was walking down the streets

875
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 6: shooting people in the head. He didn't give a fuck.

876
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: That's that's like they let whole stale as rather come on,

877
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 6: there's some boring ones that gonna be like, I don't.

878
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 7: Know, the hard up.

879
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 6: I think they talked to him.

880
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 7: This man did other stuff. I think they just a

881
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 7: fat guy. I think they president him dope with that guy.

882
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 6: They said, hey, man, you're doing something real nasty to

883
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 6: your situation and we got to be better, and he said,

884
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I will. And I think he did some

885
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 6: stuff I think you're right. You probably did some stuff.

886
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: But we're gonna remember that bathroom.

887
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 7: No, we don't. I don't know what he did. What's

888
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 7: the most h what is his biggest legacy as a president?

889
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 7: Bathtub and mustache? That's what I know.

890
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: We don't know anything. We don't know anything that man did.

891
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 8: You are right about Abe Lake Illuminati.

892
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: But he was black.

893
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 13: He got shot by a celebrity. He was like the

894
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 13: Brad Pitt of that generation. Brad shot the president. I

895
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 13: knew he was an actor, but he was. He was

896
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 13: that guy dog.

897
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 8: Okay, I thought he was just some struggling he was.

898
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 6: This was Timothy Charlo May climb in there and shooting

899
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 6: the president to la is actually pretty tall?

900
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 7: Really? Yeah, he's like six feet six.

901
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 6: I thought he was a little guy. That's a big dude.

902
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 6: That's how he has all that confidence. That's not nearly

903
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 6: as good of a story.

904
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think I thought he was like I

905
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 7: thought he was tiny, dynamite, a little firecracker.

906
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 6: You thought he was above all odds. I will succeed.

907
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 7: Yeah.

908
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 6: I thought he was just like a little baby guy. No,

909
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 6: just a tall, handsome, sexy dude.

910
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 7: Oh so he's a.

911
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 6: Tall guy who's having sex with model. That's not even cool.

912
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty solid.

913
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 6: Oh my god, the things you learned, I know.

914
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the whole you know, him ending slavery thing,

915
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 8: what kind of.

916
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 6: I thought that could be the argument.

917
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 8: Sure, it's like maybe maybe he's you know, the alumnai

918
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 8: not being down with that said, you.

919
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 6: Know what, imagine how many people's money he fucked up?

920
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 6: Exactly half the country. Yeah, and you fuck it up

921
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 6: in a way where like I ain't never gonna see

922
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 6: that again.

923
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 7: No, because they knew how sweet they I mean, listen,

924
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 7: free labor is like they were like, this is.

925
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: When it compared to like what they lost.

926
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 6: I don't put myself in the mindset of them, but

927
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 6: they must have been.

928
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 8: Like, channel you're inner slave.

929
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 6: To get free labor.

930
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 7: It's like you must have been like and you came

931
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 7: over here and stole the land. Anyways. You must have

932
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 7: been like, this is never going to stop, and then

933
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 7: somebody coming and being like, no, you have to try

934
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 7: to kill him.

935
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 6: It's crazy, got gotta try to kill I shoot my

936
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 6: brother for it.

937
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas Illuminati.

938
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 6: I think Frederick Douglas absolutely illuminati. Come on, man, I

939
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: think absolutely. He married a white woman immediately, and he

940
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 6: was like, you know the narratives. He had a black

941
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 6: do that door that time, and he was like A

942
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 6: right there.

943
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, he felt he felt untouchable.

944
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 6: He was like, maybe I don't know how to explain

945
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 6: this to you, but we can't be together no more.

946
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 6: Your hands they got scars on them.

947
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 7: I can't. I gotta move on.

948
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 6: That's not it's not where he was. Look because if

949
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 6: I take the dinner to mister Childs, they gonna see

950
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 6: it on your fingers. They don't know, they don't know.

951
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 8: I can't unfortunately, unfortunate.

952
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: Do you think there's been a lot of black leaders,

953
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: political leaders who've been other than I mean, not count

954
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: of Obama?

955
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 6: Wait, I have one, Al Sharpton. You think how sharp

956
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 6: is illuminat? And ask you how you feel? I think

957
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 6: I don't think, man, I think who is there? Happy

958
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 6: to be there? Who fun is there? Who's fun there?

959
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 6: Who's fun?

960
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

961
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: Is there like a comedian in there?

962
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 6: Is like Eddie Murphy, Eddi Murphy is in the Illuminati.

963
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 6: I think Eddie Murphy's in the Illuminati.

964
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 8: He's Illuminati material.

965
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 6: He makes reggae albums. He's so free it's you know

966
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 6: what I mean, like you you have that's a level

967
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 6: of like evolved.

968
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 8: He's too peaceful.

969
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he seems so zen.

970
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 7: I don't.

971
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 6: I think they may. He may have been one of

972
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 6: those hires where it just was clear from the beginning, Eddie,

973
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 6: we're not going to ask too much of you. We

974
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 6: like your vibe. You're just so talent, like what you

975
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 6: can do for a sort of public manipulation, We're not

976
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 6: going to ask too much of you.

977
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 8: Could he have been like an honorary Illuminati. I think

978
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 8: it might be that when you get an honorary degree.

979
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 6: Bill Cosby as a doctor, Yeah, exactly.

980
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's really probably the best position to sit in

981
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 7: as a black man, is the honorary I think to.

982
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 8: Be too committed.

983
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you didn't have to go through the same

984
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: ritual process that maybe the other ones.

985
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 7: That's what I think. I think Eddie Murphy, they were like, Hey,

986
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 7: just pick somebody up on the street one time. We're

987
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 7: going to catch you, humiliate you a little bit, that's what.

988
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: Or maybe maybe he rubbed somebody wrong and they were like,

989
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 6: we got to do a humiliation Richarry, we look love you.

990
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 6: You're so funny. Yes, but you love me, but you did,

991
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 6: you said some nasty things about him, so we're gonna.

992
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 8: Have I feel like Sammy Davis Junior would have been I.

993
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 6: Think definitely.

994
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 8: I think definitely from an entertainer, fun guy like.

995
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 6: This, this is actually my favorite the devil. Yeah, Murphy

996
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 6: tells that story.

997
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 7: Murphy tells the story where he's staking a limousine with

998
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 7: Sammy Davis.

999
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 6: And out of nowhere, they're at dinner.

1000
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 7: They're at dinner and Sammy Davis Junior is like, you know,

1001
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 7: the devil is just as powerful as God.

1002
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 6: Eddie goes, Eddie goes, what and then Sammy goes, oh, nothing.

1003
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 8: Illuminati take the conversation when somebody says that.

1004
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 6: What's the follow up to that? Okay, that's my problem though,

1005
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 6: is I keep asking you have to know.

1006
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: What's gotta know where this came from and to.

1007
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 6: Bring us full circle. This is why I'm so scared

1008
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 6: of Tyler Perry is because I would find myself at

1009
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 6: that table being like, you know, who's so funny, Sammy

1010
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 6: Davis Junior. I would have been like, he's the coolest

1011
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: guy and we should hang out with him every week.

1012
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 6: And now suddenly I'm worshiping the devil just because I

1013
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: want to be around this funny ass. That's such a

1014
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 6: funny way to talk about the devil.

1015
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, to be like, you know, he's just as powerful

1016
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 7: as Jesus.

1017
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 6: Right, what what did you say, Sammy?

1018
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: It's either one of two reactions. Either you ask more

1019
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: questions as you team to do. I'm like the piano

1020
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: player in Color Purple, where I'm just packing my ship immediately.

1021
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: But like it was nice because I don't know what

1022
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: after that.

1023
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 6: That's smarter, that's much smarter.

1024
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I don't know how to pack up.

1025
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I want to know too bad. I like

1026
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 6: weird people too much.

1027
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 7: I'm gonna stick around for a while.

1028
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I made it for the story Tide. Yeah,

1029
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: but I'm like, maybe this one I don't need to hear.

1030
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 6: The last piece of information that I'll give you as

1031
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 6: it relates to the Black Illuminati, well, the Illuminati at large.

1032
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: Let's say that there, while this secret society is proven

1033
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 6: to have existed and for generations, they have not figured

1034
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 6: out ways to land down exactly what or who the

1035
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 6: Illuminati is. To the larger point that we talked about

1036
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 6: in terms of it being celebrities that always get brought up.

1037
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 6: The American Legislative Exchange Council ALEC is essentially that of

1038
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 6: businesses and tycoons and people. It is like a secret

1039
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 6: organization that focuses on sort of like this collective hive mind.

1040
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: How do we strategize to keep all of these businesses

1041
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 6: and people afloat? There's an active business or organization in

1042
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 6: front of us, that is the Illuminati. We're wasting our

1043
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 6: time getting distracted in my opinion, by the black one,

1044
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 6: by accusing b.

1045
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 8: By the celebrity one. Right, we need to be on there.

1046
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: There is to your point about how how come the

1047
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: experts of the experts are the major billionaires that are

1048
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: black people? How come you know that in the business world?

1049
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: How come they aren't put in the illuminati? It's kind

1050
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: of It's kind of like when they from a government standpoint,

1051
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: when they want to create black policies or never bring

1052
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: the social scientists, like you know, let's call ice cube no.

1053
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 6: Offense, but you know we feel crazy.

1054
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 7: Yes, it's like when you talk to a rapper about

1055
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 7: anything rap music. But I'm just saying, like there are

1056
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 7: people who just go to school for stuff.

1057
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you mean, strangely enough, they have degrees and they've

1058
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: been on the ground on the grassroots in that field.

1059
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: It's like, we want to figure out how to you know,

1060
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: reshape massive incarceration.

1061
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 8: Uh, let's go fifty cents.

1062
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: If I had a hundred numbers and my phone ice

1063
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: cube would not be on the list of people I

1064
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 6: would send. And that's not we were just hearing highly

1065
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 6: of him yesterday. But what the fuck does this nigga

1066
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 6: know that's going to be helpful towards like true change

1067
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 6: they experts.

1068
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 8: It's like always like, you know.

1069
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 7: Why, it's so disrespectful to just like it's so disrespectful

1070
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 7: and you know what I mean to think that just

1071
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 7: to think of that, like and.

1072
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 6: To the larger point, it makes me feel like we

1073
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 6: are in some ways creating our own narrative by continuing

1074
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 6: to accuse our own of being in these secret societies,

1075
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 6: when in fact, Beyonce is not in the secret society.

1076
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 6: The company that owns the record label that Beyonce is

1077
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 6: under is in the secret society, do you know what

1078
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 6: I mean? Like that is she's as much a product

1079
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 6: of what they want, and maybe you can argue that

1080
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: she is she is uh being handled by the illuminati,

1081
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 6: but certainly she's not like at a meeting.

1082
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean it's also like it's front facing as

1083
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 7: they are celebrities or the tip of the iceberg for

1084
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 7: whatever money that they're is being funneled into that, right, Yeah,

1085
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 7: there are always none of them run the industries that

1086
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 7: give them.

1087
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: They're always the poorest person in first class.

1088
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly.

1089
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: This felt like a remember how NBC used to have

1090
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: the more you know, I just feel like a rainbow

1091
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: should just come over right now.

1092
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 6: More you know, yes is the devil.

1093
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: So it's like it feels like we need to get

1094
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: our illuminati game up, that we have been greatly underestimating

1095
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: our people, Like we're throwing all these celebrities in there's like,

1096
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: so what I have learned today is that if I'm

1097
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: thinking about the illuminati, I'm going to eliminate the celebrities.

1098
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to immediately put like Robert Smith in there,

1099
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: the multi billionaire and other people Melody Hobson.

1100
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, Byron Allen.

1101
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: There we go. Let's get let's bring some power in,

1102
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: some some economic muscle to.

1103
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 6: And also because we're here in here having these ideas

1104
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 6: us Okay, yeah, I mean right, we're restarting I think

1105
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 6: you're actually moving backwards in terms of the argument. I'm

1106
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 6: just saying. But if we're restarting it up, I think

1107
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 6: I think if we can luckily get by Ryn Allen

1108
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 6: on the podcast, we can ask him straight up, like

1109
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 6: Illuminati or not, and can we join.

1110
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: Honorary Eddie Murphy style man like an honorary Illuminati.

1111
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they're replacing After Midnight with his show.

1112
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 6: Let's go with but his show that he built himself

1113
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: by buying.

1114
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 7: That dogs time.

1115
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 6: But it's comic comics, unleashed reruns. He bought the airtime

1116
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 6: after at for after Midnight to show his show that

1117
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 6: he don't even make no more.

1118
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 8: That's so funny, that's genius and petty.

1119
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: I like this.

1120
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: I like the combination. He's just gonna be sitting across

1121
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 6: from dead Men. You know what I mean? I have

1122
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 6: these comedians ain't even with us. No, He's like, so

1123
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 6: that you got you alteration mcdons.

1124
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 8: Did you just get some money from them to McDonald's.

1125
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 6: Got bandied no pirate? Allen like, yeah, keep fighting.

1126
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 8: From there? He sued them for racial discrimination.

1127
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 7: Allen sued McDonald's nine figures type money.

1128
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 8: Yo, he got I don't even know the details.

1129
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 6: Why about that? Why he got it? I was like,

1130
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 6: what the fuck did he suit him?

1131
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 7: Like McDonald's Hey, I think I think at the end

1132
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 7: of the day, I think we all have to give

1133
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 7: it up Iron Allan, one.

1134
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 8: Of say something.

1135
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Let's put them on a secret ballad to be president

1136
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: of the new Black Illuminati. That's what we got now.

1137
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 6: I like what you're thinking. Yes, absolutely, And I think

1138
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 6: for anybody at home who's been wondering who's in the Illuminati,

1139
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,479
Speaker 6: who who are our real threats? Both serve and feel

1140
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 6: threatened by Byron Allen and the light is yeah, yeah

1141
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 6: it is.

1142
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 7: Jamel.

1143
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 6: We're gonna say one more break I'm in and then

1144
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna.

1145
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 7: Do a voicemail.

1146
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 6: But this I think we saw.

1147
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 7: I think we figured it out.

1148
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 6: I think everybody feels good. So more Jamel Hill more.

1149
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 6: Ma Mama told me, yeah, give them a little sumthing.

1150
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 8: Go ahead, man, breaking when you really break it down,

1151
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 8: we just.

1152
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: Do Hanks and a Negro serving the Lord.

1153
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: We just do Hanks and a Negro singing. I saw

1154
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 6: home and were just I'm gonna comment on that last clip.

1155
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 7: We're back. I do love that clip.

1156
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 6: Though, what is that from. It's the group d C

1157
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 6: Talk on Our Senio.

1158
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Hall Oh DC Talk, Yeah, mostly remember.

1159
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 6: The name our Seneo walks up and he goes, come on,

1160
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 6: y'all sing something for us, and then and they go, yeah,

1161
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 6: we got you. I think he says, who are you?

1162
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 6: Tell them who you are?

1163
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 7: Like yeah, and then this underwater black man and these

1164
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: two white men sing that tar Senio in our citys

1165
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 7: he gets it, so they're singing it in our Sineo

1166
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 7: is just like.

1167
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 6: He like immediately is like, na, this is not what

1168
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 6: I had.

1169
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 7: Also, you didn't do what you thought you did here.

1170
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy. You're being crazy. And in particular like

1171
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 6: they all like hit that like uh that nineties ass like.

1172
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 7: Yeah pop, yeah, it goes longer, yeah yeah, two hunks

1173
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 7: and it's rough. It was pretty crazy.

1174
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 6: They were a Christian group, right, I have to assume.

1175
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 7: I think they were a Christian group.

1176
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any other reason. There's so much

1177
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 6: fun here. I think that was non denominational Christianity, but

1178
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 6: it did have that.

1179
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think also that was a play from a

1180
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 7: Christian record label executive, We're going to cross you over

1181
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: into the black market, we got you on our signio.

1182
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 7: He said it wrong.

1183
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 9: It was like, here's what you're gonna see.

1184
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 7: I don't disagree. Yeah.

1185
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 6: Anyways, we got an email voice voicemail from one of

1186
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 6: our listeners. Uh, let's see what they talking about.

1187
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 7: They're probably drunk, so you know. Yeah.

1188
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 11: I am just wanting to say, really, huge fan black

1189
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 11: conspiracy kind of my ship. This is a conspiracy theory

1190
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 11: that I think would saw all of the male loneliness epidemic.

1191
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 11: I believe that as a nation, if we truly want

1192
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 11: to save the black loneliness male epidemic, which I also

1193
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 11: don't believe is real, but for ships and giggles, we're

1194
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 11: going to pretend it's real. I think every man black man.

1195
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 6: Can't be lonely.

1196
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 8: Well, is there a black male? I mean, I know

1197
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 8: they talked about a male.

1198
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: I've certainly heard male longliness.

1199
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: But is this something much like every other problem in

1200
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: society that is disproportionately impacting black men.

1201
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 6: I think this is the one time we get away.

1202
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: Clean because I had no sense that there was a

1203
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: that specifically black men men were This is the one.

1204
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 6: Thing I think that is not I don't think it's

1205
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 6: I think we are doing some of the things that

1206
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 6: their actual loneliness epidemic, like experiences like the nut conservation

1207
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 6: shit whatever, you know, people not wanting to bust their

1208
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 6: nut to hold on to their their Oh, I'm the

1209
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 6: only person who studied the internet for real. Okay, I

1210
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 6: don't know, Corners, we just hang out. No, no, no,

1211
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 6: you guys are pretending to be culture experts. Really down that.

1212
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 6: That's part of what people seem in retention.

1213
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 7: Popular sort of like Kevin Gates preaches it, that's happening

1214
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 7: amongst a lot of young black men. Gates, I hear

1215
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 7: things he says, I don't aware, I don't and I don't.

1216
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just sort of like it's in the atmosphere, like, okay,

1217
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: he that.

1218
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 6: Very funny, and that's where I traffic as humor. He

1219
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 6: is very very funny. He's one of the funniest people

1220
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 6: on the planet.

1221
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: He's like that unintentionally he doesn't know he's serious, which

1222
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: makes it funny.

1223
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 6: Yes, and then sometimes you can't tell which one he is.

1224
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 6: You almost hope it's like a boor At character where

1225
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 6: it's like, if it's going too far, Kevin and you're

1226
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: scaring me, but keep going. Also, okay, Okay. I'm saying

1227
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 6: that there are young black men that are certainly mimicking

1228
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 6: some of these behaviors that you see in the white epidemic,

1229
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 6: but I don't think that they're interpreting it in the

1230
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 6: same ways. I don't think they're return retaining their seeming

1231
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 6: and then wanting to hurt people because of it. They're

1232
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 6: doing it because they're like, this is gonna make me

1233
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 6: hoop better. This is like, this is really how I

1234
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 6: like you.

1235
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: If I really want to be out here on some

1236
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: Steph Curry ship.

1237
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I'm going to make the combine, yeah, here

1238
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 6: we go. I gotta jump two inches higher. And the

1239
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 6: only way I'm gonna do that is yeah, that much easier.

1240
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 6: I don't get it, like this is listen, I'm not

1241
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 6: keep in mind. No, listen, it's phrenology. This is not good.

1242
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 6: I want to be very clear with everybody. Mine is free.

1243
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 6: I can't give it away. You ain't gotta worry about

1244
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 6: me being backed up in the least, I promise you.

1245
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 6: I don't want that poison inside of me.

1246
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Seems like the Seman Retition movement is having some struggles.

1247
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 8: They need a diversity outread the one one we don't

1248
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 8: want to be d.

1249
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 7: That's right.

1250
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 6: Maybe that over there, over there, we don't want to

1251
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 6: take there all.

1252
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 8: Right, the things you learned, I tell you so.

1253
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I worry that this black loneliness epidemic is not

1254
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 6: in fact the thing.

1255
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 7: But maybe maybe I don't know.

1256
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: Maybe the internet culture has gotten so.

1257
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 7: Big for the youth though, that it goes to places

1258
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 7: that I don't know, and I will acknowledge that they're

1259
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 7: large for sure. Yeah.

1260
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 11: Undiagnosed or diagnosed depression needs to be assigned. A white

1261
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 11: woman who wore cookie monster pajama.

1262
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: Balls and.

1263
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 8: What, I'm sorry, how do we get?

1264
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: You got what on me?

1265
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 6: That's not what I thought it was.

1266
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 8: Where did the cookie what?

1267
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 7: I'm sorry? I got viscerally very angry. That was because

1268
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 7: we did. I don't think we got to play. That

1269
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 7: sucks that. I hate this. This is a hard thought

1270
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 7: to hate to wrestle with.

1271
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 11: Here we go, and who has undiagnosed her diagnosed depression

1272
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 11: needs to be assigned. A white woman who wore cookie

1273
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 11: monster pajama bottoms in high school. He gets her for

1274
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 11: three years. She is going to build him up, right,

1275
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 11: build up as confident she's gonna cook she's gonna clean,

1276
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 11: She's gonna do what cookie monster pajama bottom mamas.

1277
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: Do hm, Cookie monster pajama bottoms.

1278
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 7: We throw this man in the trash and we never

1279
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 7: talk about this again. Get the fuck out of here.

1280
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 8: The thing is, I know exactly.

1281
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 6: The type of we all know. Her name is Chastity.

1282
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 8: I mean I went to college or the bunch.

1283
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm like, I know exactly who this.

1284
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 6: I know exactly who it is, and I know for

1285
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 6: certain that is not a person who has built up

1286
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 6: anybody or anything. She will take from you. She still,

1287
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 6: that is not a good spirit to put on anybody.

1288
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 8: I mean, three years to.

1289
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 14: I mean, that's that's a bid. Remember this person is saying,

1290
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 14: you're you're at your lowest. You're thinking to yourself, I

1291
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 14: can't go on. This is and you introduce this, this is,

1292
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 14: this is, this is terrorist.

1293
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 6: She ruins lives, this is terrorist.

1294
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 7: He died like that.

1295
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: If you're going to introduce a emotional support white woman,

1296
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the white woman.

1297
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 8: In the Cookie Master.

1298
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's not the white woman. You better not be

1299
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 6: one from Oklahoma. No, hell no, Reagan, that's what I

1300
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 6: give me a your psychopath. Top two you're gonna do it.

1301
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 6: You gotta go with a bony psychopath. Yeah, man, because

1302
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 6: I can get ass over here.

1303
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

1304
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 6: You be one of the friends, one of the friends,

1305
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 6: one of the friends. That's the right order. It's got

1306
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 6: dump food in the pockets. That's what you're fucking offering.

1307
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 7: No, that's nuts, that's literally nuts.

1308
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 8: It's been a long time since I have heard something

1309
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 8: that unhinged.

1310
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 6: This isn't This isn't helping anyone. This is an awful take.

1311
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 6: It's an awful take, and I'm embarrassed to admit there's

1312
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 6: so much more to it. What is it?

1313
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 11: And then if at the end of the trial session

1314
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 11: he doesn't get better, we just take him behind the

1315
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 11: yard and off him. Oh yeah, we.

1316
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 7: Just see that.

1317
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 4: What up?

1318
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 6: This is a pain of us. This is a person

1319
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: who likes what we do. What are we doing to

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Speaker 6: these people? That's what I just I just can't every

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Speaker 6: decision I've ever made, you feel like y'all need to

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 6: reevaluate things crazy. Usually people just call drunk. This is

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Speaker 6: this is.

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Speaker 8: So she went from cookie master to then murder.

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Speaker 6: Like, what if we erk?

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Speaker 7: The whole thing in this man is proposing that we

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 7: murder depressed black men.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, First they're depressed. Then you make them way

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 6: more depressed. Correct, You throw their life into a whirlwind

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01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 6: of chaos, and then if they somehow don't get better

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 6: from the hell that you've unleashed on them, you take

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Speaker 6: them behind a tree, Old Yeller style and you shoot them.

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Speaker 6: And then they went, maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: No, that's what we should do.

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 6: That's what that's the end. That no is the still

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01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 6: more to wait. There's this Okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: I think we can perfect it.

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 8: This room for improvement.

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Speaker 11: She was a light that you wore cookie monster pajama bottoms,

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Speaker 11: and I think without her he wouldn't be the rapper

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Speaker 11: that he is today. Was she referencing a lot of

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 11: people know little Dirk his first baby mama. She was

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 11: a light that you wore cookie monster pajama bottoms, and

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 11: I think without her he wouldn't be the rapper that

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Speaker 11: he is today, because really put him on.

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Speaker 6: You know where Dirk is right now. He's not doing good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't help your argument.

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Speaker 6: That's what I Yeah, this is yo, this is a pio.

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Speaker 6: This is I don't like. This is a nasty attempt

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Speaker 6: at brainwashed?

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Speaker 7: Something about this, This is this is I don't like

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01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 7: even this is not good.

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 6: This is like a crazy like they have. This is

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01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 6: like t mood level like efforts at washing our brains.

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Speaker 1: This is is that that her whole description of what

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: these have like white women cookie cookie master pajamas, three

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: years whatever. If you pitch that in a Hollywood meeting,

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: they say, yes, oh yeah, they'd be like, oh, a

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01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: psychotic white woman that kills black dudes. Can we get

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: Jordan peel on this? Can we get them to come

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: in and do this? They call in monster, But I'm

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01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: saying that sounds like the Hollywood elevator pitch of the year.

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Speaker 6: Well, I also don't think proprietary put.

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01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 7: I think this person knows that all black men aren't rappers.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 7: M It's why in the argument this person's a psycond

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 7: part when we get.

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Speaker 11: Down to the nitty gridiness of like the procreation and

1368
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 11: stuff like, I don't really give a fuck about that.

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 11: But I do think we can solve the male loneliness

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Speaker 11: epidemic with the power of uniting crusty, dusty, depressed, gross

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01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 11: black men with white bitches who were who wore Could

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Speaker 11: you monster pajama bottoms in high school again. Super huge

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01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 11: fan of the show.

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Speaker 7: You this bitch, I don't want you to listen to

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 7: our show anymore.

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 6: I'm not a fan of you.

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 7: Stop it. I like you, I like your ideas. Stop

1378
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 7: listening to it.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 6: This sucks, man, Fuck you with it. By the way,

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 6: show what a dusty black man.

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Speaker 1: And so every black man that's depressed has to be

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: like this is not exactly So I guess she feels

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: like she's gonna help depression because by her theory, there

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: will be less black men who will actually be lonely

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01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: because she's murdered them.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you going that deep. This is a devil.

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 7: I mean, we need to treat this person as such.

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: You guys need to call Homeland Security now.

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Speaker 6: But at my most empathetic I go, this is a

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 6: person saying I I think we should collect the bottom

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01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 6: tier of one community and make them mush into the

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 6: bottom tier of another community to solve a loneliness crisis.

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Speaker 6: And I think that that is eugenics. I think that

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 6: is do you know what I mean? Like, I think

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 6: that is vile, vile ship that is being proposed to us.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 6: And this is a nasty person.

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 7: No, that was horrible.

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 6: This person scares me to my bone.

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that she might need some help. I

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 8: mean I don't. I don't know that.

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: I would love to know, I would. I honestly hope

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: some kind of substance was involved. But she said angel dust. Yeah,

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: be drugs that ain't.

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 6: Even out there like that, like some retro shit we

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 6: don't know is drugs. This bitch is helping oven cleaner.

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01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: This does seem like it could be helium, Like it could, yeah, helium,

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: you know sort of you know if.

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 6: You put it up your butt.

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: You sound like that for a long time, right, It's

1411
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: like an unusual drug that they put in a not

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,480
Speaker 1: so usual.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, like a combination of.

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're smoking nitrogen out of pipe. This is

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,520
Speaker 6: something weird.

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01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: I hate, man, I just like need a camera in

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: her brain to see, like what is not happening there?

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: Like is it? I'm not it was.

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 7: I think this is a person who has been hurt

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 7: and who seeks to hurt. I think that's probably hurt people.

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 7: Hurt people exactly.

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 6: Well, Jamelle, this wasn't supposed to be how we ended

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 6: the podcast. I mean, listen, sometimes they good.

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01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 8: This was not it's okay.

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: This is I know the opinions expressed are not of

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: those of the hosts, so I do get this.

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 8: But this was an amazing time.

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01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: A lot of funny does not take away from all

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: the things I learned about from you know, the Semen

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: retention movement. Let's go there to how the Illuminati was

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01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,440
Speaker 1: actually formed. That George Washington was probably in the Illuminati.

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 6: No Italians, no Italians in it.

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: Listen, huge gaping blind spot there to not have Stevie

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: Wonder alumnadi her.

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01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 7: No, Oh, Stevie's in that.

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01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 6: Ste Ray Charles is not. I can see that. I

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 6: could see that Ray was nasty.

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 7: I can see that.

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 6: I think there were a few like members that fucked

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01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 6: with him so they kept him taken care of. But

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 6: I don't think Ray was in there. But Stevie can see.

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if this podcast hasn't addressed that, then like,

1443
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

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01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 8: That's what I think.

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 6: I was, like, what you know, I think I think

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 6: he didn't always I don't think he was always able

1447
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 6: to see. I think they got him some new eyeballs. Yeah,

1448
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 6: they got it back, and they got to make him

1449
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 6: play it cool, you know what I mean? Like how

1450
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 6: the government has technology way before civilian. I think I

1451
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 6: think songs in the key of life. Yeah, you go ahead,

1452
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 6: we're giving you some new eyeballs. My man, Hey, you

1453
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 6: know what this the house in that sky? Yes you do.

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 6: Thanks to me Child's Illuminati. We got some other products

1455
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 6: for you to That's what it was.

1456
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: The Illuminati game. They got Steview there.

1457
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 6: Is and hey, good on them, because he does he

1458
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 6: does deserve.

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01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't necessarily have to mean something apocalyptic.

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01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 8: Perhaps there's some good the Illuminati could do.

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 6: I think they were like, we want every funeral, every

1462
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 6: famous funeral, to be slapping from now on. We got

1463
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 6: to keep Stevie taking care of yea, he gone there

1464
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 6: you go that he will pay us back in.

1465
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 7: Song, almost as if it's like a guiding hand for society,

1466
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 7: not like something meant to rip us apart.

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01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 6: M This nigga is nasty. I saw you saw it, Jamel,

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 6: Tell them where they can find you, because that's a

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 6: bad guy.

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: Do you have any right women with some cookie Moss servants.

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 7: My life is going good. I'm not depressed at all.

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: Well, people, I have my own podcast, as you mentioned earlier,

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01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: weekly podcasts. You know, we tackle like you the light

1474
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: subjects racism, you know, Cinemokia, but it's it's the sports

1475
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: and politics podcast called Politics, covering the intersection between sports, race, gender,

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01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: and culture. So yeah, so I'm very excited and happy

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,879
Speaker 1: to be doing that. In fact, this uh, this particular

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01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: week's episode, it's Chris Paul whoa so not in the Illuminati.

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,480
Speaker 7: Not in the alum.

1480
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 6: You on the banana boat and not think the banana

1481
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 6: boat was a humanliation instual. Look, guys, I'm not here

1482
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 6: to make that decision.

1483
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 7: It's the end of the show.

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 8: Lebron definitely come on.

1485
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 6: Come on, hell were talking about Go ahead and tell

1486
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 6: your story because I got nothing.

1487
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 7: Man, I'm moving cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram,

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 7: Buy my special on Patreon.

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01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you can follow me at Langston Kerman on

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 6: all social media platforms and like, subscribe, rate, review, do

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01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 6: all the things. Send us emails at my mama pot

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 6: at gmail dot com. Send us voicemails at eight four

1493
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 6: or four little moms. We would love to hear from you,

1494
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 6: and most importantly, h fuck ice by bitch.

1495
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 7: I want you to know this.

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01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 10: If your prayers include me to stop drinking, stop smoking,

1497
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 10: and stop having fun and stop watching these little bitches

1498
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 10: spop d adds if your prayers include any of those

1499
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 10: things and not gonna work because of rejecting them at all,

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 10: and I will be continuing in my saying we could

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Speaker 10: add motherfucker waves that gives it that the way you

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Speaker 10: want to put.

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Speaker 6: My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,920
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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 6: hosted by Langston Kruk, co hosted by David Borie.

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01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,639
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01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,080
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