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Speaker 1: In some cases, people just break up. It could be

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Speaker 1: And when you're the happiest, you're just happy for everyone,

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Speaker 1: I was in Miami and I was wearing a ring

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Speaker 1: I'm not engaged, and I've been dating it and I've

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Speaker 1: While I don't want to share every intimate detail about

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Speaker 1: What if we explore? What if we date and we explore?

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Speaker 1: Men are allowed to sleep around, date, be a player,

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Speaker 1: she's better alone. Why is this judged? Why does everybody

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Speaker 1: The media cannot explain what's going on in my life.

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Speaker 1: ba Humbug Ebenezer Scrooge news. I love giving thanks, I

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Speaker 1: that's never great. You're gonna say your chicken's juicy. Yours

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Speaker 1: There's always some fucking dry part. And it's a giant

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Speaker 2: Now you're fucking the environment.

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Speaker 1: Because it's like you have to have a plastic lifestyle

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Speaker 1: just to go with the leftover turkey that no one's

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Speaker 2: You don't want to see it anymore.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see like the lard laden interior

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Speaker 2: Like, why these motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: Why Okay, why Kobe beef that's been massaged. Okay, they

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Speaker 1: The fried turkey, the Cajun turkey, the Asian turkey, dispatchcock turkey,

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants a turkey taco. Stop stop justifying the slaughtering

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Speaker 1: I'll give you sliced cold cuts, thinly slice that I'll

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Speaker 2: But what are we gonna do? Only kill?

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Speaker 1: It's like killing for fucking skilling, killing stripper. We're like

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Speaker 1: Like now we're gonna kill all these fucking turkeys for

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Speaker 1: the one. Yes, some grandfather wants to not a drumstick, great,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the turkey going? I just don't like it.

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Speaker 1: We only want the white meat breast, that's what we want.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. So yes, I want to travel

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Speaker 1: it's a fucking onslaught, and it's waterboarding, Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: need sweet cranberries with sweet sweet potatoes, with sweet marshmallows,

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Speaker 1: that has dried cranberries in it. But also let's jam

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? Are we all trying to be diabetic?

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Speaker 1: Like we're doing this all the same time. No wonder

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Speaker 1: Here's here's the Like, Okay, let's do the turkey. Fine, fine,

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Speaker 1: then let's pick our spots and the vegetable. Every vegetables

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Speaker 1: sweet potatoes. But then like, let's do that, let's have

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Speaker 1: It's just like I want to gag two minutes into

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Speaker 1: I'm disgusto and gross, and I don't like peacam pie.

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Speaker 1: I don't need perade nuts, Like fine, a couple of

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Speaker 1: Give me some fucking chocolate molten cake with some good

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I want to go and get a gastric bypass

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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, and I don't want it. And the conversation

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Speaker 1: is to say you're being waterboarded. Everyone's like getting on.

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Speaker 1: Why aren't you singing? Why are you single? You're eating

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Speaker 1: too much? What happened to this? Why are you not

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Speaker 1: with that person? Who'd you vote for? I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: At least Christmas has a distraction of gifts and presents

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is just like it's like it's like the way

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Speaker 1: it's how I feel. I don't like Thanksgiving. And when

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Speaker 1: I cook Thanksgiving I smell like onions for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: eat it. I smell like sage and rosemary. It's under

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Speaker 1: The difference between something I have cooked, which is excellent.

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Speaker 1: all the unfollows I'm gonna get. I know you guys

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Speaker 1: and the origin of the Thanksgiving story too. My friends

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Speaker 1: They don't like it. What does it need to be

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Speaker 1: all and dreamsy to come true? I'm exhausted. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm alone.

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Speaker 1: This holiday season is not for the fucking faint of heart.

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Speaker 1: Like it gets real, it gets real, lonely. Anything you

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Speaker 1: You're divided. Your husband gets the kids this year. It's

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Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart. Like I know, we

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Speaker 1: have to make things meaningful. But do not invest your

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Speaker 1: you over like a freight train. Period story in film

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