1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: In the last hours, not one, not two, but three 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: locations rated locations connected to the rap mogul Sean Diddy Combs. 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean to see, Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Crime Stories and 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: on series XM one eleven. Why Diddy? Why Sean Puffy 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Combs as he was once known. Well, according to what 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: we are learning, the raids by the Feds, by HSI 8 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Homeland Security investigators, much of the PC probable cause was 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: gleaned from multiple lawsuits filed against Combs. 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Now that's not just from what we're learning. 11 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Combs' own lawyer spoke out in a very unfortunate statement. 12 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: For Combs, you never reveal your thinking prior to a trial, 13 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: but the lawyer did. What are they saying that all 14 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: these victims are lying? I mean, think about it. No 15 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: one wants to see the demise of a superstar, but 16 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: our superstars to be. 17 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Held above the law. 18 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Because I say no again, I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: for being with us here on Serious six SIM and 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: at Crime Stories. First of all, this is what we 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: know happened. Listen to Sidney Sumner Crime Online. 22 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: On Monday, large teams of law enforcement led by Homeland 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: Security investigators rated three homes belonging to Sean Diddy Combs 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and Miami as part of a sex 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: trafficking investigation stemming from accusations leveled against Combs in five 26 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: separate lawsuits brought against him. The latest suit, filed in 27 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: February by music producer Rodney Rod Jones, details frequent drug use, 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: of shooting, and several accounts of sex assault while working 29 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: with Combs on the Love album. 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: That's what we know right now, but there's more, and 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you this much. When the fans roll 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: up in armored vehicles wearing kevlar, that's not good for you. 33 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: That's not good at all. 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot of whining this morning by the 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: defense about, oh, they messed up the inside of his house. 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: Boo hoo. Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online. 37 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 4: In the seventy three page document, Jones claims that Combs 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: forced him to solicit sex workers and perform sex acts 39 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: with them as Combs looked on. Jones also alleges the 40 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: rapper through parties he called freak Coughs, during which underage 41 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: girls and sex workers were given lace, drinks and assaulted. 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: Comb's son Justin, producer Stevie Jay, and associate Brendan Paul 43 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: allegedly supplied the women in drugs for the parties. The 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: suit goes on to say that Comb's access to major celebrities, athletes, 45 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: and even British royals such as Prince Harry gave him 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 4: and his followers legitimacy. 47 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: With me an all star panel to make sense of 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: what we know right now, but for a straight out. 49 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: To Kila Brantley joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot com, Kela, 50 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me what happened 51 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: because we saw simultaneous raids. A lot has been made 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: of that. Hold on just a second, Kila. Let me 53 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: go to Nima Romani, joining US high profile lawyer and 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: more importantly, former federal prosecutor, a president of the West 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Coast Trial Lawyers Association and author of Harvard to hashtag Nima, 56 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. A lot has been 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: made and a lot of whining and crying because there 58 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: were multiple raids that. 59 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Went down simultaneously. 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Boo who The reason that happens is so when you 61 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: get raised in LA, you can't call your peeps in Miami. 62 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Go quick, quick, quick, hide. 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: One, two, three and four, destroy five, six, seven, and eight. 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: And ps run for the hills as if you had 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: seen a monster. 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: That's why it scott to be very carefully orchestrated and timed, 67 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: very organized to go down at the same time for 68 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: that very reason, Nima. 69 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: Nancy, that's exactly right. 70 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: And the raid in Los Angeles took place about a 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 6: mile from where I'm sitting right now. I live close 72 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 6: to Ditty's home. And you know, I also know Aaron Dyer. 73 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: I used to work with him. I respect him, but 74 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 6: I think he's making that argument for the court of public. 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: Opinion more than the courtroom. 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 6: And you're right, there's three reasons why federal agents go 77 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 6: in and they go aggressively. One, there's always a threat 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 6: of violence. And did he reportedly has a lot of weapons. 79 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 6: Agents need to make sure that no one flees the jurisdiction, 80 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 6: evidence isn't destroyed. That's why the raids are executed simultaneously. 81 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 6: When they are individuals are removed from the home, they're cough, 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 6: they're detained. No one was arrested, but Diddy was treated 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 6: just like any other criminal defendant or target of an investigation. 84 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: When these search warrants are executed. 85 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Guys, what do you expect the HSI Homeland Security investigators 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: to be the minute made and clean. 87 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Up after a search. Yeah, that's not happening, guys. 88 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: In the last hours, a lot of whining and complaining 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and switching of tail and gnashing. 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Of teeth because the Feds quote left. 91 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: A mess in Diddy's mansions. You know what, It's amazing 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: what people will do to hide contraband or evidence. What 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: evidence am I talking about? Talking about videos? Potential videos 94 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: of underage girls and boys in the middle of sex 95 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: acts now number one? An underaged child some jurisdictions under eighteen, 96 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: some under sixteen, some under fifteen, cannot consent to sex activity. 97 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: So even if they appear to be willing in a video, 98 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: does anybody remember r Kelly, for Pete's sake, were he 99 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: urinated on a teen girl? 100 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not consensual. I don't care what she said 101 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: at the time. 102 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: Videos that could easily be hidden even if they are 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: in physical form. 104 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: For all I know, they're just on a computer. 105 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: That's why every computer, every laptop, every phone, every iPad, 106 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: everything has to be seized. And you know what, I'm 107 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: waiting on Nima Ramani, I'm waiting on that return. 108 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: Explain what is a return, Ramani. 109 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: So there's a search one in an application, and when 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: the search one is executed, there's a return that's filed 111 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 6: with the court and identifies all the property that's been seen. 112 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 6: And like you said, Nancy, what they're looking for here 113 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 6: is evidence of sex trafficking and the production of child pornography. Reportedly, 114 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: if you believe these civil lawsuits, not only were they sex. 115 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 5: Acts, they were recorded. 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 6: That's a crime, both in terms of the act and 117 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 6: according and we're talking about mandatory minimum sentences. 118 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: So it's just probably. 119 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 6: Gonna be a matter of days before Diddy is and dated, 120 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 6: an indictment is unsealed. 121 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Hermione again, you're reading like you sound like you're reading 122 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: out of the farmer's Almanac about the crop report for 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: next year. 124 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Listen, Sean P. 125 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Combs has been targeted. Now everybody keeps saying he's not 126 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the target. That's Bs, because these are his homes on 127 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: two sides of the country. 128 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: The people at his. 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Homes were put in handcuffs during the search, and that 130 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: is so pea stand and operating procedure. 131 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: So nobody gets shot. There's a lot of. 132 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: Whining going on about that too, But in a home 133 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: where you are looking for guns, you do not leave 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the inhabitants free to grab a gun and start shooting, 135 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: So stop whining about that too. Combs is facing an indictment. 136 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. This is a big deal. We're 137 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: not reading the crop report for twenty twenty five. This 138 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: tells me nobody is above the law, not even Combs, 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: whose net worth is valued at over one billion. That's 140 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: with the bees and brother one billion dollars Ramani. 141 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: No one is above the law. And really, the chickens 142 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: are coming home to Ruis. 143 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 6: This really started in November when ex girlfriend Cassie filed 144 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: that bombshell lawsuit and she spilled the tea, and obviously 145 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: Diddy settled it the following day. 146 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 5: But really it was too little, too late. 147 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 6: Here's someone that was in a ten year relationship with Diddy, 148 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 6: and once she filed, she encouraged other alleged victims to 149 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 6: come forward, one after another, and if you believe the reports, 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: some of those victims are already cooperating with law enforcement. 151 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: And we know that there's enough. 152 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 6: Probable cause because a federal judge signed off on these 153 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 6: two search warrens, so to be interesting to see what 154 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 6: evidence shows up in that return, what federal agents pull 155 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: from those electronics, because that digital footprint, Nancy, I think 156 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 6: that's going to be the evidence that puts Diddy away. 157 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: I think you're right because you can discount. I can't, 158 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: but some people discount eyewitnesses and victims. But when you've 159 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: got it on digital proof, it's hard to argue with 160 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that dynamite combination. You were just seeing Cassie Ventura and 161 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: she's not some parasite tic hanging on like some houcci 162 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: mama that's latched onto Sean P. 163 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: Diddy Combs. She is a star in her own right. 164 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: You saw her on album covers One was a Long 165 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Way to Go, One was decene, beautiful and talented. Now 166 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: hold on, I'm going to go straight out to Keila 167 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Brantley joining US Investigator Reporter, Dailymail dot Com. Kella again, 168 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. It did all get 169 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: kicked off with Cassie Ventura's complaint explained. 170 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was back in November. 171 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 7: Nancy. Cassie Venta they dated for ten years. She was 172 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 7: actually nineteen years old and he was thirty seven at 173 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: the time when they began their relationship. 174 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa wait wait wait, Kiela, let me 175 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: allow that to sow kim. 176 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: She was nineteen and he was thirty seven. Did you 177 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: just say. 178 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 7: That nearly twenty years her senior yep. 179 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: Go ahead, not judging yet, not yet. 180 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 7: But she called the relationship abusive controlling. She said that 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 7: did he forced her to have sex with male prostitutes 182 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 7: and watched and recorded it. And in addition to that, 183 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 7: she said that he forced her to do drugs and 184 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 7: so many horrific details there, and that went on for 185 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 7: ten years, and that it all culminated in twenty eighteen 186 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 7: when she tried to leave him, and she says that 187 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 7: he came and raped her. Now, this is exactly the 188 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 7: catalyst that sparked all of the other lawsuits. Now he's 189 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 7: facing five lawsuits with a lot of similar stories from 190 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 7: these alleged victims. 191 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Killib Brantley, investigative reporter Daily mail dot Com is exactly correct. 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Cassie Ventura claims Combs raped Ventura in her home when 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: she tried to leave him. Often punched, beat kicked, stomped her, 194 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: resulting in bruises, burst lips, black eyes and bleeding blew 195 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: up a man's car after Diddy Combs learned the man 196 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: was romantically interested in miss Ventura forced her to engage 197 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: in sex acts with male sex workers while masturbating and 198 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: filming the encounter. 199 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that is a video. 200 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: If it can be found, this jury will absolutely see 201 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: Combs masturbating and filming the encounters of miss Ventura being 202 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: forced into sex acts with male sex workers. 203 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: That he ran out of his apartment. 204 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: With a firearm in pursuit of a rival industry exec 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: demanded miss Ventura carry his firearm in her purse, and 206 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: introduced miss Ventia to a lifestyle of excessive alcohol, drugs, 207 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: and required her to procure illicit prescriptions to satisfy his 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: own addictions. I'm reading directly from her lawsuit. Now, remember 209 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: that is a private lawsuit that is not a public 210 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: government document. So you got to take everything that an 211 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: ex claims against another x with a box of salt. 212 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: But wait a minute, isn't it true Caleb Brantley that 213 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: she sued him for about thirty million dollars and they settled. 214 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Combs actually paid her off to get rid of the lawsuit. 215 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 7: They settled. Yep, they settled the next day. As soon 216 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 7: as the lawsuit was filed, the news broke. The next day, 217 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: they settled the lawsuit for disclosed amount. She was seeking 218 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: thirty million dollars, but we don't know how much they 219 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 7: actually settled for. Both of them came out with statements 220 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 7: saying that they wanted to settle things privately. But in 221 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 7: Diddy's statement, he absolutely did not admit any fault. He 222 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 7: said that this was handled privately and wanted to move on. 223 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 7: He called the allegations baseless. And we've seen that pattern 224 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 7: just now with the raids on his house. 225 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that's the same kind of thing they're 226 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: claiming right now. KILEB. Brantley. 227 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: Guys, this is just one of multiple lawsuits filed against Combs. 228 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: Sean P. 229 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Dinny Combs, also known as Ditty, also known as Puffy 230 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Let's think about this thing. 231 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: Joining me is Shannon Henry. 232 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: She is the president and founder of sass Go Surviving 233 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Assault Standing Strong. It's a nonprofit. Shannon Henry h. By 234 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: the way, you can find her at saasgo dot org. Shannon, 235 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. They are multiple lawsuits 236 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: five that I can think of against Combs all claiming 237 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: sex assault and forcing the victims into sex acts. Now 238 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: that's one thing. Five claims and correct me if I'm wrong, 239 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Caller Brantley, because I've got a ton of documents and 240 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: information I'm trying to absorb. But here's the thing, Shannon Henry. 241 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: When you have one victim, it's easy for the defense 242 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: to say that's a he says. She say, like, what 243 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: is that in the defense, it's a he says, She say, of. 244 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: Course it is. 245 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: But when you have two victims, then three, then four, 246 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: then five, then is a jury supposed to be they're 247 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: all lying and he's the only one telling the truth. 248 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Actually that worked in the Michael Jackson case, so it 249 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: could work. But typically in front of jury's a group 250 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: of victims, such as in Harvey Weinstein, such as in 251 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, who do you such as Bill Cosby, what 252 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: do you disbelieve? The cadre of victims and choose to 253 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: believe they defend. 254 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 8: It right, We're seeing a pattern of abuse, We're seeing 255 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 8: a pattern of violence, and we're seeing it over and 256 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 8: over again from each of these people that are coming 257 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 8: forward and listen, he's an equal opportunity abuser, whether it 258 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 8: was an eleventh grader, a college student, or it was 259 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 8: one of his chefs. So many people have come forward, 260 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 8: even the music producer, to complain about his behavior and 261 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 8: the trafficking that it's going on. And let's call it 262 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 8: what it is. It is trafficking. It's one hundred and 263 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 8: fifty billion dollar industry. It is abuse and assault and 264 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 8: stalking on steroids, and it's the second most profitable illegal 265 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 8: business in the United States. And he's an active part 266 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 8: of it. 267 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: You know what you're leaving out of your formula, Shannon, 268 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: And everything you just said is correct, by the way. 269 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I remember my first human trafficking case. Then it was 270 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: called statutory rape. The girl had just turned fourteen. I'm 271 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: getting chills on my arm right now. And I looked 272 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: and I looked, and I looked for her, couldn't find her. 273 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I went out every day and I remember it was 274 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: cold outside and I was straight out of law school. 275 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I had no money, I had the thinnest coat ever. 276 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: It was so cold, and we would look and look 277 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: and look. Finally I get a call at like six 278 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: am in the morning. 279 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: I raised to the location. It's a flophouse. 280 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Then on Stuart Avenue, which was the avenue at the 281 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: time for sex trading drugs, and I went in where 282 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: they said the girl was. I looked at there were 283 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: like five women. I came out like, it's not a 284 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: girl in there. Why did you get me here? I 285 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: need to be at the courthouse. And they went go 286 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: back in. Look at the one in the white boots. 287 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I went back in, Shannon, this was a little girl. 288 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: She had the fake hair, the fake eyelashes, the boustier, 289 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: the height, the mini skirt. If such as it was, 290 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: it didn't look anything like a fourteen year old little 291 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: girl at She like a thirty five year old drug addict. 292 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: Long story short. 293 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: She had been passed around and used and taken from 294 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: one place to the next, and had, you know, fifteen 295 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: to twenty men rape her a day. Okay, That's what 296 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. And if these allegations are true, Shannon 297 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Henry Combs is no better than those two pimps. 298 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 8: And I would even beg everyone to see too that 299 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 8: there is an institution, a brand, if you will, of 300 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 8: complicity that he's created around him too. With his I 301 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 8: call him buddyguards, That's what the industry calls them. People 302 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 8: that have watched this go on and been complicit in 303 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 8: all of it and enabled it in ways by not 304 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 8: acting and not responding on behalf of the victim and 305 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 8: what they're seeing in front of them. 306 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: I want you to hear what the impetus was for 307 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: this major, major search, and I'm telling you to have 308 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: HSI Homeland Security investigators roll up in front of Itty's 309 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: mansion and break in. They went armed, they went wearing 310 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: body armor. They immediately subdued and handcuffed everyone in the 311 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: home as they should have, while simultaneously, across the country, 312 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: additional locations venues connected to Sean pay COB's were searched 313 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and searched thoroughly. Take listen to Sidney Sumner Crime on Line. 314 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: Before producer Rodney Lilrod Jones explosive lawsuit. Four more alleged 315 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: victims filed suit against Comb's. The first came from an 316 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: ex girlfriend R and B singer Cassandra Cassie Ventura. Ventura claims, 317 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: in addition to physical abuse occurring throughout their decade long 318 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: on and off relationship, Combs coerced her to participate in 319 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: what he called freakofs which involved Ventura having sex with 320 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: male sex workers while Combs watched, masturbated, and took videos 321 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: of the encounter. Combs also allegedly broke into Ventura's home 322 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: and raped her after she broke off their relationship in 323 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Three other lawsuits followed. Ventura's. Joy Dickerson Neil 324 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: claims Combs drugged her at a nineteen ninety one dinner 325 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: date and later recorded himself raping her. Liza Gardner's suit 326 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: alleges that Comb's and R and B singer Aaron assaulted 327 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: her and a friend at Hall's apartment when she was 328 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: just sixteen years old. An anonymous victim details a two 329 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: thousand and three gang rate by Combe's and two others 330 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: at his New York studio. Combs settled Venture's lawsuit just 331 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: a day after it was filed. The remaining four complaints 332 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: are still unresolved. 333 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory psychologist and mediator who specializes in forensic psychology. 334 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us. You know 335 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: this is what everybody is asking me, okay, And the 336 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: reason I care what anybody says is because who's going 337 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: to be on that jury that's going to be seated 338 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: one day? He can't like wiggle out of a federal 339 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: indictment if that happens. We asked a defense attorney on 340 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: He's like, no way, but I hope. 341 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: He joins us. 342 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: So, you know, a lot of talk about how he 343 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: was targeted, how he's not the target yet, his home was. 344 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: Targeted, and blah law. 345 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: But when you get a federal indictment shoved up your 346 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: rear end, it's kind of hard to get out of 347 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: that with just talking. 348 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: But this is what gurrs. 349 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: May wonder, because this is what is being asked to 350 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: me since the moment this hit the airwaves. 351 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: Why would a guy worth over. 352 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: One billion dollars bother to drug miners some is you 353 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: only sixteen? Is the allegation and video himself raping them 354 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: when he can have practically any woman he wanted that 355 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: were after fame and fortune. See to me, I don't care, 356 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: But a juror may wonder that what about it dilatory? 357 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 9: Well, because he can't. I mean, ultimately, this is about 358 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 9: the thrill that he was getting by exploiting and embarrassing 359 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 9: all of these individuals. A lot of people talk about 360 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 9: power and control that these guys you know, who like 361 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 9: to do these kinds of abuses like to have the 362 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 9: power and control. But it's more than that when it 363 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 9: comes to Diddio. I mean we see things about violence 364 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 9: and drugs and guns. As was described earlier, he's an 365 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 9: equal opportunity abuser. 366 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 5: This is God. 367 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 9: This is a guy who thinks money, power respect is 368 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 9: the be all and all that his word is the 369 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 9: word that goes and whatever it is that suits his fancy, 370 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 9: that's what he's going to do. He's doing it because 371 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 9: he has the money to do it, and he gets 372 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 9: the thrill out of it. And this more important to 373 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 9: him is getting the thrill rather than just having someone 374 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 9: just come up to him and offer themselves. There's no 375 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 9: fun in that for him. He wants to bring down 376 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 9: and embarrass, He wants to abuse, he wants to inflict 377 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 9: pain on individuals. 378 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand something, doctor delatory, because obviously you 379 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: have encountered this. 380 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: I've encountered it while prosecuting. 381 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: But so the thrill is drugging someone and raping them 382 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: while they're they're totally knocked out like Cosby. 383 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: That's the thrill. 384 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 9: That's the trill. That's absolutely the thrll, especially if they're 385 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 9: the ones that say no. The more they say No, 386 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 9: the more they struggle against it, the harder that the 387 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 9: abuser is going to go, the more thrill they get. 388 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 5: Out of it. 389 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't even like hearing you say that 390 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: that's true though, but I get it. And that's what's 391 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to be explained to a jury if this 392 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: ever goes to a jury. 393 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: Guys. 394 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: In addition to investigative reporter Killa Brantley, Shannon Henry from 395 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: sas Doctor Delatory, and high profile lawyer, former federal prosecutor 396 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Nina Nima Romani, Oh, that reminds me of something, Nema. 397 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: I was about to go to Barry Golden. 398 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: Hold on Barry uh former US Marshall, And I'm telling 399 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: you they don't play uh. 400 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: Nima. 401 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: I was a FED for three years and I nearly 402 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: jumped out of my skin because we would have, for instance, 403 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: in a case I was working, we would have a 404 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: whole room full of boxes of documents, and I'd be saying, well, 405 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: when do we actually get to do something? 406 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: When are we going to do the raid? When are 407 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: we going to make there is? 408 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Because they're doing it right now, why are we waiting? 409 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: So I'm telling you. 410 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Naima, that the FEDS had some serious p C probable 411 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: cause before they blast up in comes his mansions. 412 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: Oh, you're absolutely right, And this is an investigation that's 413 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 6: being run out of the Southern District of New York, 414 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 6: probably the most prestigious prosecutor's office in the country. 415 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 5: They hire the brightest and the best. 416 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 6: So just because the raids were executed in Los Angeles 417 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: and Miami doesn't mean the investigation started here. 418 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: It started in New York, so they know what they're doing. 419 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 6: And you know, Nancy, the Feds wait until they have 420 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 6: a made hand, a bulletproof, ironclad case before they go in. 421 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 6: They have the luxury of waiting of interviewing those witnesses, 422 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: putting them before the grand jury. Because once you execute 423 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: a search works like this, Evan starts to disappear. People 424 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 6: may disappear. So this is the final step before people 425 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 6: start getting arrested. 426 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: It's the culmination of months and months and months of working, 427 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: if not longer. 428 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: Comes may have been on their radar for a while, but. 429 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: These lawsuits basically shamed the Feds into doing something they 430 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: couldn't hold back anymore. And see, they've got what I 431 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: don't have, and I pray for it, Nima, because It's 432 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: bit me in the rear end many a time. I 433 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: don't have patience because see I'm thinking, hey, while I'm 434 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: waiting to do something, he may be molesting another girl, 435 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: he may be drugging another girl. 436 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: And see I'm thinking that. But they think the long game. 437 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: The Feds think the long game, which is it's a 438 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: fault of mine not to play the long game. 439 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: But they're right. 440 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: If you want to win, you play the long game, 441 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and you get every tea crossed, every I dotted. Then 442 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: you move bottom line. When they move on you, it's 443 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: too late for you. 444 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: You're dead. 445 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: It's over because they got the goods on you. They're 446 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: just not going to make a move like this. And 447 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: if they've got a lot of evidence, guys joining me 448 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: right now, A guy I know you want to hear 449 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: from former US Marshall and owner now of Golden Consulting 450 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: at Golden dashci dot com, Mary Golden, A significant portion 451 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: of this case is criminal enterprise. 452 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: Anybody jump in, We're not having high tay at winsor Castle. 453 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Please criminal enterprise, which means a plan more than one 454 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: person is involved. Even though this raid may have been 455 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: sparked by multiple lawsuits against Combs. The defense have got 456 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: to prove that there was a criminal enterprise, and they're 457 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: using claims of sex acts on other women men in 458 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: different states, traveling or moving the victims in order for 459 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: them to have sex with Combs or other people. Why 460 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: the aspect of asportation, in other words, movement is important 461 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: in this case. 462 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 10: The conviction rate in the Southern District of Florida. I 463 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 10: prosecuted cases through the US Attorney's Office for several years, 464 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 10: and the conviction rate in the Southern District of Florida 465 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 10: was ninety eight percent. So yes, you are right. 466 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 5: When they bring. 467 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 10: The federal government, the US Attorney's Office brings an indictment. 468 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 10: If they do, they have a lot of ammunition on you. 469 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 10: As Nima just mentioned that a federal judge already found 470 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 10: probable cause that there is evidence to conduct these searches 471 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 10: that the homes here in Miami and in New York. 472 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 10: But yes, you're going to have numerous witnesses. I think 473 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 10: that this case is going to still take a long 474 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 10: time because you have so much evidence. You have to 475 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 10: bring in all these people. Rodney Jones, you can only 476 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 10: he can only testify to what he witnessed and what 477 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 10: happened to him. You have to bring in other witnesses 478 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 10: that these alleged sex acts occurred with. And so you're 479 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 10: gonna have to find these witnesses, interview these witnesses, bring 480 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 10: them in, lock them into a statement, and then put 481 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 10: all that into an indictment. So I think you're still 482 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 10: months away from seeing an indictment. But there's so much 483 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 10: information that you're looking at here. You just look at 484 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 10: the civil complaint by Rodney Jones, and it's very long. 485 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 10: There's so much information there. There are so many allegations. 486 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 10: You know, there's a lot of information. But you know 487 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 10: the HSI going in the attorney was complaining about so 488 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 10: many agents. Look at that compound right there. Look how 489 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 10: big that mansion is. You need a lot of manpower. 490 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 10: And with the allegations of firearms being at that location, 491 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 10: you never know how someone's going to react. When as 492 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 10: a federal agent you come in there and you take 493 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 10: control of their residents, you don't know how they're going 494 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 10: to react. You have to have a lot of manpower 495 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 10: and a lot of bodies to secure that location so 496 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 10: a search can be conducted. 497 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Barry Golden, I got one word for you, Waco Waco. 498 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: Geting that yes, the Fed's moving. 499 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Koresh gets all of his followers who are all many 500 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: of them molesting little girls and their religion. They fire 501 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: on the Feds and everything goes wild. And I still 502 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: remember seeing the video of the flames and the standoff 503 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: and the shootout when Fed's moved in. And I've got 504 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: to tell you something. I've been on many searches and 505 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: arrests pursuit to warrant, of course. 506 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: And people don't take to it very kindly, and they 507 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: can reach a gun. You're in trouble. Into story. 508 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Here's another thing we see going on to Kili Brantley 509 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: joining US investigative reporter Daily Mail. We know that Combs 510 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: is alleged drug mule was arrested at the Miami airport 511 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: at the same time comes as rappers sons are putting 512 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: cuffs during the raids on the mansions. Who is the 513 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: alleged drug meal. It's very significant because the fans are 514 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: going to be looking for witnesses and this alleged mule 515 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: could do life and Max or he could ride out Combs, 516 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: what do you think he's going to do? Tell me 517 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: about the drug mule, The alleged drug meal. Brandon Paul, 518 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: aged twenty five. 519 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, so twenty five year old Brendan Paul. He was 520 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 7: arrested Monday as these raids went on. He was arrested 521 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 7: out of Miami Airport and he was about to board 522 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 7: Combes's plane to what was believed to be going to 523 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 7: the Caribbean. Now, when the authorities checked his bags, they 524 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 7: found cocaine and last candy, and so they arrested him 525 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 7: for that. They said that it's not directly involved. It's 526 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 7: not an arrest directly involved in the raids. However, Homeland 527 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 7: Security did send officers there to check out Colmes's plane. Now, 528 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 7: this was a guy from Ohio. He played college basketball. 529 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 7: We're not exactly sure how he became involved with Ditty, 530 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 7: but according to the lawsuit filed last month from producer 531 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 7: Little Rod, he was Ditty's alleged drug mule. 532 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: Prime stories with me. It's he Grace. Okay. 533 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: So now we're looking at sex trafficking and to you, 534 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Shannon Henry, to make out joining us from SASS, which 535 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: is surviving assault, standing strong, to make out sex trafficking. 536 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: It's not as hard as people think. Explain what it 537 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: means to say x traffic someone. 538 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 8: Well, you know the way that people are trafficked, they 539 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 8: look for a vulnerable population, whether they're young, they're in 540 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 8: a hard season of their life, they're looking for fame, 541 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 8: they're looking to make. 542 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: It big, whatever it is. 543 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 8: They're going to use coercion. They're going to force them 544 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 8: with threats and stalking and violence to repay a debt, 545 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 8: whatever it may be. And we certainly see that here 546 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 8: in Cassie's story as well as the others. So you've 547 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 8: got this isolation that's happening, this coercion, this power, and 548 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 8: then the most powerful weapon of all is shame because 549 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 8: on top of all of this, you've got video of everything, 550 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 8: and they can shame them into complicity and being quiet 551 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 8: and silence is ultimately the biggest evil. And I agree 552 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 8: bringing these people forward, giving witnesses the ability to testify 553 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 8: will ultimately be what really brings down the entire playbook. 554 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 8: And let's not forget the Fahim Mohammad is also who 555 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 8: is helping, you know, behind the scenes with all of 556 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 8: this as Diddy's director of security and he worked previously 557 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 8: for Michael Jackson. 558 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that's quite the Cohen getting hump. Nima Ramani is 559 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: joining us NIMA, now high profile lawyer and the president 560 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: of West Coast Trial Lawyers. But important for me, former 561 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: federal prosecutor, what about this? Nobody likes to rite out 562 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: a friend, right, Snitches get stitches and all that. But 563 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: there's one guy, Fitty from G Unit g Unit Rapper 564 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: fifty cents who. 565 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: Has been mocking diddy up for a long time. 566 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: In fact, when this all went down, he states is 567 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: not did did he do it? It's did he done it? 568 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Because they don't come after you until they got a case. 569 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: That's Simony's going on and on and on. 570 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: Why do I care? 571 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: Because he may have inside information, not just him, but Usher, 572 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: even Bieber, justin Bieber. And I'm not saying any of 573 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: them are responsible for any wrongdoing. I'm saying that they 574 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: obviously have been around daring some let me just say 575 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: comes as antics because when Bieber was asked when he 576 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: was a teen boy, hey, what happened when you were 577 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: hanging out with Combs? He said, well, I can't say, 578 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: but it's every fifteen year old boy's dream. 579 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 580 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Usher has publicly stated that he saw some quote, very 581 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: curious things when hanging out with Combs and You've got 582 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Fiddy making jokes and did his expense explain they could 583 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: turn up to be witnesses. 584 00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 5: Oh, no question. 585 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 6: You know fifty cent and Diddy's viewed is pretty well documented. 586 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 6: Fifty's actually working on a documentary about all this. But Nancy, 587 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 6: this may well be a Jeff Epstein type situation. We 588 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 6: know Cuba Gooding Junior, He's already been named in a 589 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 6: civil lawsuit. You know, Prince Harry's name has been mentioned. 590 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 6: And Diddy rubs shoulders with rich and powerful people here 591 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 6: in Los Angeles, in all over the world. So the 592 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 6: question is going to be who was there, what did 593 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 6: they see, what did they do? And I wouldn't be 594 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 6: surprised if more and more names start being leaked that 595 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 6: our people that you know are very well known that 596 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 6: either are witnesses or even worse, participated in some of 597 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 6: these sex acts. 598 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I tell my children. Of course, this 599 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: is on a small scale. 600 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: You got to an event, you go to a party, 601 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you see one taine dranking leaf, you see one tanane 602 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: with a joint. Leave because if you stay then you're 603 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: part of it. You become part of it. Whether you 604 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: do anything wrong or not, You're there. You are part 605 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: of it. It's called being a codefendant. Speaking of Ussher, 606 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: take a listen to what Ussher had to say. 607 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 11: We're sending you to something called Puffy Flavor Camp. You 608 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 11: go to camp, Yeah, that's what it was called. And 609 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 11: you're going to go to puff Daddy's He's hidden in nineties. 610 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 11: Do you understand what that's like. Puffy's place was like 611 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 11: just filled with chicks and orging like NonStop. 612 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: Right, No, not really, I mean, but hey, it was curious. 613 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: I got a chance to see some things. 614 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, but you were thirteen. 615 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: What we went there to see the lifestyle? 616 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 6: Right? 617 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 5: And I saw it. It was. 618 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 11: It was, but I don't know if I could indulge 619 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 11: and understand what I was even looking at. 620 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: It was. 621 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: It was pretty wild, Okay. 622 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: He went on to say that you'd open a door 623 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and there would be people in that room, multiple women 624 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: and men having orgies, a totally different set of sex, 625 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: specifically always girls around. This was when he was thirteen. 626 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: Now you're hearing Usher speaking to Howard Stern and being 627 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: very very candid. Stern has the ability to get people 628 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: to drop their guard and speak as they would as 629 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: if they were speaking to a longtime friend in the 630 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: privacy of their home as you saw right there. And 631 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if, as this case goes forward to 632 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: Barry Golden, former US Marshall, if we're going to see 633 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: more people their high profile being forced pursue it to 634 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: subpoena to speak out. 635 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 10: Yes, when you read in some of these civil lawsuits, 636 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 10: you see that there are allegations that there are other people, 637 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 10: other witnesses, that were there at the time when these 638 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 10: alleged criminal acts occurred. So now the US Attorney's Office 639 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 10: is going to have to find those people, interview those people, 640 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 10: and then get these people to be willing to test 641 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 10: against Sean P. Diddy, Colmbs, this person who is a 642 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 10: mega superstar with millions and millions or billions of dollars, 643 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 10: and now they have to be able to stand up 644 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 10: and face him in court and say he did this, this, 645 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 10: and this. The US Attorney's Office is going to have 646 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 10: to find these people and bring these people in and 647 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 10: be willing to testify against a mega superstar. 648 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: And people, very often, I hate to say, don't come 649 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: forward out of the goodness of their heart. 650 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: They have to be forced. In other words, you have. 651 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: To threaten them with unnamed co conspirator status. It's going 652 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: to be tough exactly who is a government and these 653 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: alleged victims up against? Take a listen to our cut 654 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: one Rachel Benia Crime Online. 655 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 12: Sean Combs aka Puff Daddy, P Diddy and Brother Love 656 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 12: is credited with the development of several big names hip 657 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 12: hop artists, including Notorious Big and Usher. Did His own 658 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 12: music career is just as impressive, with eleven number one singles, 659 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 12: fourteen nominations, and three Grammy Awards. In addition to Combs's label, 660 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 12: bad Boy Records, the rap mogul Co founds the network 661 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 12: Revolt TV, and hosts several businesses under the umbrella company 662 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 12: Comb's Global. At Forbes's last estimate, Combs had a net 663 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 12: worth of roughly one billion dollars. 664 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: Will they's alleged victims stand up against colms one billion 665 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: dollars at the last estimate, We wait as just as unfalls. 666 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,