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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Javin Kramer and Michael Coffin and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>her radio podcast The Black Market and Nails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird because I feel like, oh, sorry, before

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<v Speaker 2>we started this episode, I was showing everyone my nails

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<v Speaker 2>over zoom because I just got my nails done and

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<v Speaker 2>very festive, might iadd very christmasy.

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<v Speaker 3>But you didn't even get them done. You got them did?

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<v Speaker 2>I got them did? But Mark and them we're saying

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<v Speaker 2>that there's no nail salons. I forgot that. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>are in full lockdown in La pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you want to get your hair done, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to go to some back alley, your garage somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>where somebody will do it on the down low.

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<v Speaker 2>I just, I mean, I don't know. It's I just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It just sucks. I mean because we're

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<v Speaker 2>not really going out out. I mean we've we've we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing a few things for the kids, but we're limiting

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<v Speaker 2>like who we see. But I feel like when we

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<v Speaker 2>when I do do the nails, and I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>going out. But I mean, you know, you're wearing the

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<v Speaker 2>mask and you're like, is this really doing anything? But

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<v Speaker 2>I still wear it and honestly, now, I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>love the mask because it's cold, so I like, I

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<v Speaker 2>find myself like leaving Whole Foods or wherever and still

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<v Speaker 2>have the mask on because I'm like, this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cozy, Like I like it. So I'm complying

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<v Speaker 2>with no issues because it's freezing in Nashville right now. Yeah, finally,

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<v Speaker 2>everything is so cold. And we just had our hvat

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<v Speaker 2>guy because our poor son's room is uh he woke up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean literally like like he's the only house like

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<v Speaker 2>the only room in the house where it's you walk

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<v Speaker 2>in and it's like fifty degrees and I've just some

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<v Speaker 2>like listen, people, you've come five times now, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you are not leaving until there is warm air blowing

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<v Speaker 2>out of my son's vent And they're like, just leave

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<v Speaker 2>the door open, and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's not the right answer. Fix it now, poor

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<v Speaker 3>little guy. I wish I could sleep out there some

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<v Speaker 3>days because it's so chilly and I love it, go

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<v Speaker 3>for it. But I think we have it text hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>we'll find out tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's whenever I hear that people don't sleep in the

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<v Speaker 2>same room, it makes me sad, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's because they're maybe not connected. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would be fine if we like did our thing in

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<v Speaker 2>bed and cuddled and then it's like okay, good night,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like you go to the other room. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I really like to spread out, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>really like to just like starfishes when she Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to just be, you know, just in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes it's really nice when we get into a

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<v Speaker 2>fight and I'm like, they go to the other room.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of new homes are being built with two

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<v Speaker 4>master bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a definite trend in this direction.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like that could be bad though, too,

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<v Speaker 2>unless like if you're not having the connection time before

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the other room, does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know a couple that doesn't do any connection

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<v Speaker 2>time before they go to their separate suites. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of makes sense, Like, you know, I do

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<v Speaker 2>like having someone next to me though, but every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while it's maybe like hey, every Monday, like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't sleep in bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not opposed, but the whole trend of

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<v Speaker 3>this being a thing, I mean, that's just dividing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that doesn't seem.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Yeah, that's just putting a bigger wedge in relationships

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<v Speaker 3>and monogamy, I feel like, because even sometimes it's those

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<v Speaker 3>things where you go to bed and just knowing the

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<v Speaker 3>other person's right next to you. Otherwise it might feel

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<v Speaker 3>like an apartment, you know what I mean. If like

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<v Speaker 3>you go to the other room and you have this

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<v Speaker 3>whole other setup and every night you're pretty much doing

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<v Speaker 3>your own routine, that'll just feel weird.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I take a lot of comfort in her

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<v Speaker 5>being there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I say I don't like sleeping alone, because

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<v Speaker 4>I really like looking over and having her next to me.

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<v Speaker 4>But to underscore my point, Architectural Digest this year called

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<v Speaker 4>it the hottest new trend in home building double master bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what a fresh topic. We didn't even know we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to get onto. That's so interesting, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely interesting. But then when I say that I could

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<v Speaker 2>fall asleep cut like laying on top of you, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I love cuddling and falling asleep, but that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>your thing. So I've kind of morphed into like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can go then if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can't cut and fall asleep when you I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to starfish get out of their room.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so interesting. What is this? According to a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen survey from the National Sleep Foundation, almost one in

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<v Speaker 3>four married coupled sleep and separate bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I bet it's probably like because they're I

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<v Speaker 2>will say this, I if you snored, I could not

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in the same room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right back at you, Like I'd be like, you have.

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<v Speaker 2>To leave because that would just be or if you

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If I have a zero tolerance policy when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, mister e snore, wait more.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I do, it's because I'm really, really, really,

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<v Speaker 3>really really tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My two roommates in college once we're all was off campus,

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<v Speaker 3>so the way our townhouse was set up, all was

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<v Speaker 3>on the main floor. We had a basement, and their

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<v Speaker 3>two rooms were across from each other, above me, and

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<v Speaker 3>they both snore so bad you would think they're faking

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<v Speaker 3>it right, Like it was literally like you can't be asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way they're asleep because the story is that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And they would be and it's like they would compete

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<v Speaker 3>with each other out here one in one room. You'd

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<v Speaker 3>be loud. The other one would get louder and just escalate.

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<v Speaker 3>And my room's underneath them. This is college housing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not like you can hear everything in every room.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would get upset with them. I oufter go

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<v Speaker 3>upstairs and wake their asses up, because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>can hear you downstairs, like, stop snoring. Wake them up,

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<v Speaker 3>so I could try to go back downstairs fall asleep

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<v Speaker 3>before they start storing again. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like your vomiting noise? Like it's so overdone

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<v Speaker 2>that like it's like I'm vaking it. It's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>vaking it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Anyways, let's take a break and I have another

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<v Speaker 3>topic I want to bring up. Oh, okay, So the

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<v Speaker 3>topic I want to bring up. I've read something on

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<v Speaker 3>this recently. I didn't really read any like facts.

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<v Speaker 2>About it or I didn't really read it, but I read,

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<v Speaker 2>but just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Topic of it was interesting to me. And what was

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<v Speaker 3>something that you used to hate that now you love running? Running?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was easy. Yeah, scary movies and in the

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<v Speaker 3>course of our relationship, like I've hated them, but I

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<v Speaker 3>want to watch them more. One thing I refuse to

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<v Speaker 3>what happens to like mustard.

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<v Speaker 2>No, never, oh never. We are a no mustard house.

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<v Speaker 2>No mustard is allowed. If we have burgers. We even

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<v Speaker 2>say to people, b yo, m because we will not

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<v Speaker 2>have it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we do not purchase. We do not waste hard

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<v Speaker 3>earn money on mustard. But you know, another one for

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<v Speaker 3>you is that I thought you're gonna say it's beats.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well okay, I didn't know like food anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, but that's not where like my mind didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to like food, you know. Ye, No, I like

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<v Speaker 2>love beats now. I used to hate beats. Now I like.

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<v Speaker 2>But they say your taste buds and I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong, Becky, But your taste buds

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<v Speaker 2>change every seven years, so something that you might so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe mustard. I mean, we don't know, never refuse. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I would like beats. And then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden I had this make this beat carrot

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<v Speaker 2>goat cheese thing and it was the best thing I

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<v Speaker 2>ever had in my entire life. And now I have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime I go to the store. She's like, don't forget

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<v Speaker 3>to get my beats. Like she's like like like she's

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<v Speaker 3>loved them. For ten years. It's just like you forgot

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<v Speaker 3>my beats. You know, my mom has got to have

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<v Speaker 3>her beats. I'm like, you just started liking them yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything you guys can think of for.

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<v Speaker 6>Me, cooking in general, I was not confident in it

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<v Speaker 6>for the very long time, and just this year I

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<v Speaker 6>got to be feeling good about it and I really

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<v Speaker 6>enjoy it, and it's something I really like.

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<v Speaker 2>So just cooking, cooking, I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine is musicals.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife brings it up sometimes because when we first

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<v Speaker 4>got together, I was like, no way, no, how Once

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<v Speaker 4>I started singing, I'm out. Now I find them delightful.

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<v Speaker 4>They bring me great joy. And maybe part of it

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<v Speaker 4>is my daughter is so in the broad Away and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like the transition had already started before that.

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<v Speaker 4>I really enjoy a good musical.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there one in particular that kind of what do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember the first one that you're like, hmm, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that bad?

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Wicked was probably a pretty big turning point for me

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<v Speaker 4>because I thought that was pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 3>And you saw the Broadway show.

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<v Speaker 5>In La the Pantagious, Yeah, major, Can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my question? Can you watch them on like a movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I loved La La Land.

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<v Speaker 3>We couldn't get through the first like ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, which is okay, maybe we should go back and

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<v Speaker 2>watch Lalla Land. I mean we didn't. We ended within yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like five minutes. We're like, not a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny you say that, though, Mark, because literally last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever night we were fighting last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Or the night before, I don't know, it's sorry to

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<v Speaker 3>keep track. Yeah, I'm a gambling man. Good odds here, Jana.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on my phone. Jana comes in and starts

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<v Speaker 3>going on Netflix and turns on the prom with James

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<v Speaker 3>Corbt or what's the name Corbyn and Meryl Streep and

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<v Speaker 3>all them turns it on.

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<v Speaker 2>As the minute that I didn't know what it was about.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like, oh, Meryl Street, Nicole kidman, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a story about that, by the way, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>And as soon as they get to like the third

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<v Speaker 3>note of the opening song, she clicks out of it next.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I can't do this. But today

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<v Speaker 2>when I was running on the treadmill and I was like, ugh,

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<v Speaker 2>like I got nothing else to do while I'm running,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch it. It's hilarious, really, Ryan Murphy. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I'd like to wait, is it appropriate like

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter if I love it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's about this girl who is lesbian take a

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<v Speaker 2>same section with girls and wants to take her partner

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<v Speaker 2>to the prom and they cancel prom and so they

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<v Speaker 2>make this huge deal about it. And then the Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>stars because Meryl Streep and Nicole Kidman and James Corbyn

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<v Speaker 2>are these Broadway stars but their showed is really bad,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're trying to redeem theirselves. But the numbers are hilarious,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're they're making jokes about like just Broadway in general,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just other things. It's really funny. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually kind of want to go back. And because

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<v Speaker 2>I was, I'm out there after we got into a

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<v Speaker 2>fight this morning, I'm like out there like wiping tears

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<v Speaker 2>and going, oh, this is actually really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Going from laughing and crying, crying to laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, this is actually really good. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to actually want to watch it with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think you would laugh at some of the

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<v Speaker 2>parts because they're like, it's just funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll watch it. I never have have had anything against musicals,

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<v Speaker 3>Broadway shows, I love I have always have huge fan

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<v Speaker 3>of them. I'll go to any Broadway show. Book of

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<v Speaker 3>Mormon is one.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mormons is our favorite.

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<v Speaker 8>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Tears belly laughing when we went and saw that. We

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<v Speaker 3>saw that at Pantages.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anyone goes, yeah to Pantages. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Broadways shoes are Are they even open right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's gut wrenching. We're in a pandemic news flash,

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<v Speaker 2>reality check. Yeah. Crazy, But Book of Mormons is by

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<v Speaker 2>far my favorite. I mean I was like bawling, crying.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Love Jersey Boys, I mean Hamilton. I just sat on

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<v Speaker 4>Disney Plus and it was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were going to get tickets to Hamilton, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was too expensive. I was like, I can't, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>is it still it's good over because it's long.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, it is long.

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<v Speaker 5>But I really enjoyed it on Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 4>We had tickets for it this past July or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>and then all got canceled.

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<v Speaker 5>So my daughter was pretty devastating about that. So we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna hopefully check it out once everything's up and running again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have an appointment. Uh uh what No, I

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<v Speaker 2>just said we have an appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, an appointment to talk to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah about number.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, Mark, what are you doing. It's just a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just weighing options.

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<v Speaker 4>But you both seem interested and excited, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see any kind of bristling on either side.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually I wanted one, he didn't, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like fine, and then it was once I

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<v Speaker 2>felt good about it, then he was like I really

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<v Speaker 2>want another one, and I was like, oh, like what

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<v Speaker 2>where's this. Where's this coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coming from Jase getting bigger, and.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the reason not to have a third one.

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<v Speaker 2>They say like, don't do it because you want baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me, it's no. I know that's what you've been saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I want a baby or a puppy.

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<v Speaker 8>Give me.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that you can weigh the two in the

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<v Speaker 3>same category is not not.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want the baby because I'm thinking about it

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm saying like, I'm not just wanting like a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the other day we were at you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>went to see the lights and took the kids sledding,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, man, they're good right now. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine a third baby, A third kid would be fun, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing too. I think that people especially,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, people in our situation that might

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<v Speaker 3>look past the infant stage where it's you know, Jolie

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be five, Jason's two. They're getting those

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<v Speaker 3>prime ages of like doing all this stuff right, going

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<v Speaker 3>to see light shows, going to Christmas things, trying and

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<v Speaker 3>doing all these fun activities because they both can enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>it now. And then it's like, if if we end

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<v Speaker 3>up having a third, we're not going to sacrifice Jolie

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<v Speaker 3>and Jason's enjoyment. So we're just having to be lugging

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<v Speaker 3>a third along for the ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Here a kid, take your bottle. Yeah, I love babies though,

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<v Speaker 2>they're so sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I see why parents Just the more kids you have,

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<v Speaker 3>the more lenient you get later on because you're just

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever here you want to eat now, shore you

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<v Speaker 3>want to eat later? Whatever, here's some cheerios at it, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So having o'clock of.

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<v Speaker 3>Nights like fish food just a little bit each day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see though, Mark and Easton and Becky, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys will be the first to know, I hope.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's exciting. I mean, you got to think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>A family of five is different in terms of restaurants,

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<v Speaker 4>getting out a roller coaster, in terms of your car,

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of making Jason the middle child, like, there's

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of stuff I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Through here, so I would want two more. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know though it I'll I mean, Becky just said

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<v Speaker 2>your babysit, so that's good news. She lives in California.

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<v Speaker 2>A little small, small issue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine, you know. The other day too, I had

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<v Speaker 3>the kids in the morning and I went and ransom

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<v Speaker 3>errands with them and had both of them, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was great. The kids were awesome, They behaved. I went

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<v Speaker 3>took them to home depot and had them on one

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<v Speaker 3>of like the push cars, and they both sat on

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<v Speaker 3>there as good as could be. They loved it. They're

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<v Speaker 3>like tired of the old shopping cart. Just I just

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<v Speaker 3>got to start taking them to home beepo and pushing

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<v Speaker 3>them on one of those. And I came back and

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<v Speaker 3>told Jane. I was like, you know, it was so

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<v Speaker 3>great having them. They were so good. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I were I started picturing if I was

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<v Speaker 3>holding a car sheet right now, or holding like a

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<v Speaker 3>baby carrier right now while I'm pushing the other kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that would be a lot, It's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to think about.

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<v Speaker 4>Well later today we have an email from somebody who's

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<v Speaker 4>in a similar situation, but they are not on the

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<v Speaker 4>same page as their spouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Chilli. I don't know though, I mean because we have

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<v Speaker 2>to just I mean, the other thing to discuss is

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<v Speaker 2>like I had hyperremess with jas and pretty much Jolie too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mean, I puked all the way and we've had miscarriages,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, you know, we've even talked about maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not carrying because if we have one shot at it,

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<v Speaker 2>my body's probably not the body to carry it with

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<v Speaker 2>all the miscarriages and you know, so it but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just we're just gonna talk about all our options

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<v Speaker 2>and then put it on the table and drink a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of wine and then figure it out. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we do things.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the email? I want it. Let's do that, do

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<v Speaker 2>it now? Yeah, we don't formats bother me.

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<v Speaker 3>Structure. I want structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Structure.

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<v Speaker 3>Jillian.

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<v Speaker 4>My husband and I have been married for four years

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<v Speaker 4>and together for ten. We have a two year old daughter,

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<v Speaker 4>and my husband has recently made it very clear that

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want any more children. I am heartbroken knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that I will have no more babies and my daughter

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<v Speaker 4>will not have a sibling.

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<v Speaker 5>When I bring up my disappointment.

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<v Speaker 4>All he says is that it's too much to handle

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<v Speaker 4>and that he doesn't know what else to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm lost. I don't know where to go from here.

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<v Speaker 5>I love my husband.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to split up my family, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think I can accept having an only child without

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<v Speaker 4>feeling resentful for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is the word I was going to bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to be so resentful. And nothing against only children.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my cousin's and only child. He's the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they turn out fine, but there is something like I

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<v Speaker 2>that would really be tough for me, because I think,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, like it's easier having too because they play

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<v Speaker 2>together one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred per se.

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<v Speaker 2>They entertain each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Once the other one gets to like two years old,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll sit there and play with each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other, Like we have mad breaks right now with Jason Jolie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like will we get like sometimes fifteen minutes where they

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<v Speaker 2>just play together and we're like, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And we'll go play like Monopoly deal real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>We will. So it's like, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be resentful. I mean, I'm not saying to leave your husband,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need to really tell him.

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<v Speaker 3>Why has a husband say it's too much to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Just have them listened to this podcast and they'll say, hello, husband,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not too much to handle. They're going to play together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you, it's you're thinking in you're thinking short term. Yeah, husband,

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<v Speaker 3>you're thinking of I get it, the sleepless nights, that

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<v Speaker 3>when the babies cry and all that stuff. I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Having two is hard. But once you get past us

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<v Speaker 3>first eighteen months, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you get past the first like I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, when they start, oh yeah, when they start sleeping again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a game changer. But when they're starting to

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<v Speaker 3>play together, it's not just for our own benefit, but

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<v Speaker 3>for their benefit to see that. I mean, Jason Joly

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<v Speaker 3>interact with each other, and Jace just be a little

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<v Speaker 3>pest little brother and wrestle Jolie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if I wonder if there's a survey

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<v Speaker 2>out there where it's like they surveyed single only children

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<v Speaker 2>and ask them would you have wanted a sibling. I

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<v Speaker 2>bet you they would say yes. You know, it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like you're doing it for the kid too.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you're going to go a different direction and

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<v Speaker 3>say they surveyed only children and said how much of

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<v Speaker 3>how many of you are psychopaths or sociopathic or serial

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<v Speaker 3>killers or okay, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, Carl is an only child, and he's you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, but I because Uncle Ray is like a brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but he I think maybe he took that role

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<v Speaker 2>because they wish they would have had more kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think, but you don't want to wait too long.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like, if you have a two year old,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a two year old, right, you should just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, listen, buddy. But here's the problem. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want him to be resentful that he has another one

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<v Speaker 2>when he really doesn't want another one. So then it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be resentment ali with both people.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna he'll get over that. He's gonna hold

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<v Speaker 3>that little baby and he'll be like, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 4>But also we're dad's and we have numerous children, so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and everybody's different. This is a really

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<v Speaker 4>hard one because she's clearly, according to this email, has

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<v Speaker 4>given thought to leaving her husband over this, and I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder if she's communicated that to him.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if he realizes.

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<v Speaker 4>How passionate she is about this, because guys like you

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<v Speaker 4>said thanks short term, Oh it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna be a hassle. Yeah, it is gonna be a hassle.

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<v Speaker 5>But then that hassle is going to be behind you.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I think make it clear to.

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<v Speaker 5>Him this is probably a terrible idea. You're welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>tell me that. Is there a negotiation to be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, like I'll have sex with you every day if

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<v Speaker 2>you give me another baby, like that kind of negotiation,

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<v Speaker 2>because I had a friend that got a puppy and

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<v Speaker 2>made that deal and she has not love you boo boo,

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<v Speaker 2>like she has not done what she's not held up

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<v Speaker 2>her under the bargain.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking more like, ask him what's the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>house is are going to be and tell him you'll

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<v Speaker 4>take care of it. And maybe maybe that's a terrible idea,

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<v Speaker 4>like that should definitely be a team effort. But maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's the late night feedings you promise that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to deal with it, or maybe he sit in

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<v Speaker 4>a separate bedroom for the first year. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but maybe there's a path where you figure out what

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<v Speaker 4>he's most concerned about and try to alleviate it.

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<v Speaker 3>For I think that's a great idea. Actually, what's your

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<v Speaker 3>biggest fear about having another and how.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I, you know, help help that, because, like he said,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it's going to be a lot. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. You're just saying, what is a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I can do that and moms can do it all.

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<v Speaker 3>That you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, I appreciate you foolding the kid's laundry.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's karma for the one out of

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred times. And I love how you do it too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you like make all the noise in the room

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<v Speaker 2>when you're folding the laundry because you want me to

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<v Speaker 2>see that you did the kid's laundry. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>what the most annoying part of the entire thing was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, honey, you want me to say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for the one time out of five hundred that

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<v Speaker 2>you did the kid's laundry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, strategic boys, I did it when she was mad

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<v Speaker 3>at me.

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<v Speaker 5>What noises are you making?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>How do you make noise?

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<v Speaker 2>Like throwing the clothes?

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like really yeah, really making long, big arm movements.

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<v Speaker 2>When he folds our little baby two te pajamas.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd have thought all was folding flags and sheets in here,

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<v Speaker 3>baby whipping bedcovers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with kids, jam And I knew what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You did it on the day that we were fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's like, she can't be that mad at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing the kid's laundry.

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<v Speaker 5>Suck it.

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<v Speaker 2>Strategy, boys, what were we even fighting about?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who knows, No one ever knows. She

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<v Speaker 3>comes with a marriage territory, all right. So we have

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<v Speaker 3>a guest coming up here soon, Leanne Lockin, who a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago. Yeah, she was. We had her

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<v Speaker 3>on the show in the early days. And she's a

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<v Speaker 3>real housewife or was a real housewife of Dallas and

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<v Speaker 3>she recently left the show. So we're gonna have her

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<v Speaker 2>Hikuti. Hi, how are you? Are you drinking a mountain dew?

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing?

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<v Speaker 4>I love you.

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<v Speaker 7>I used to you know it has It has tripled

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<v Speaker 7>the caffeine of any other soft drink.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to drink those, the ruby redkind in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single day I get one. I love those nine

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<v Speaker 3>So many cavities, Okay, let's not.

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<v Speaker 7>You can get diet though, and it has the same

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<v Speaker 7>amount of caffeine with no sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>I stop drinking pop like a pop you know? I

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<v Speaker 2>like a diet coke is that I'll do a fountain

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<v Speaker 2>drink every once while I don't drink caffeine. So mountain

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<v Speaker 2>dew you can have. You can't have caffeine free anyways. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? Your Christmas setup looks beautiful?

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<v Speaker 7>I have a little elf here.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>How is how's how's quarantine? Four years marriage going awesome?

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<v Speaker 7>Aw I gotta tell you, you know, I'm the kind

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<v Speaker 7>of person that I'm always gone. I mean, last time

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 7>I saw you, I was there and being forced to

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<v Speaker 7>stay home and like, look at every corner of my

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<v Speaker 7>house while I constantly have to remind myself it's okay,

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<v Speaker 7>take your time.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm enjoying the hell out of redoing everything.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, my husband maybe not so much.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's why there's a home goods store

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<v Speaker 3>or tej Max. I think it is right outside this

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 3>little my gym place our kids go to, And every

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>time I leave, that store is opening, and there's always

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<v Speaker 3>a line outside the door. And I'm like, it's probably

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 3>because everyone's just redoing everything in their house.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, I will say this, I have a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of people who are like in construction, and so

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<v Speaker 7>during the summer when COVID first hit the summertime, everybody

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 7>was like putting him. You can't even schedule to get

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<v Speaker 7>a pool put in your house right now because they're

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<v Speaker 7>so backed up on orders. So people were putting in

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<v Speaker 7>pools and redoing their outdoors. I redid an entire I

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<v Speaker 7>have like a half fake or so one half of

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<v Speaker 7>my yard. I'd never even touched that patio before, because

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<v Speaker 7>of course we focused on the pool side and I

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<v Speaker 7>fixed it all up. I used reclaimed ship black wood

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<v Speaker 7>and put up a stucco wall, and it's I loved

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<v Speaker 7>every second of it. My husband cannot say the same.

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<v Speaker 7>I have several pictures of him going like.

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<v Speaker 2>This, do you miss not being on the show?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, is it one of those things? Where do you

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<v Speaker 2>Because there was backlash like do you do you regret?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you regret any part of it?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think all human regret things. If you

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<v Speaker 7>don't regret, you're basically just an ass right, So certainly

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<v Speaker 7>there are things that I regret. But I also I

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<v Speaker 7>will say this, there are a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 7>got twisted and are so you know what's hard for

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<v Speaker 7>me is and I feel this so deeply. And maybe

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 7>it's because I live with you know, an ex law

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 7>man who you know, first responder, but I get so

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 7>tired of sheic. I want independent, educated thinkers, and so

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 7>it gets sometimes it can be a little overwhelming to

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<v Speaker 7>not to have a conversation with someone that's just guided

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<v Speaker 7>by what they saw.

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<v Speaker 9>And not by what reality really is.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it been. I know, you know, you quoted saying

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>part of the reason you left the show is to

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 3>spend more time and focus time on your husband and

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>family and everything like that. How's it been with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being recently married in the spring, and really it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, pandemic time, you really get that call time?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah you do, Hi, honey, how are you gonna?

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I will say my husband is really kind

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 7>of a genius, not really kind of. He really is

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 7>a genius. He quarantines himself in his man cave, and

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 7>he he has since the pandemic hit. He was just like, look,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 7>we can beat up each other's butt twenty four to

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 7>seven and you know, just do this little or we

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 7>can set time that we There are projects we work

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<v Speaker 7>on together, there are projects that we work on independently.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's just really been a bunch of like love

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 7>on the house, love on each other. It's funny, you know,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 7>if we get to a point where we're ready to

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 7>pull each other's hair out, He'll just like order a

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 7>meal in and a bottle of wine, and.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's got to be hard to when

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<v Speaker 2>when he said that they twist things, and I think

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>it's that's where I don't think I could ever do

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a reality show because you don't really have that full

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>control be able to go.

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<v Speaker 9>You have no control.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like no control.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 7>You are who you are and that doesn't matter. They

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 7>will make you who they need.

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 9>You to be for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's just got to like that just has

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<v Speaker 2>to be just soul sucking.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 7>It can be when they.

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<v Speaker 9>Take it too far, it's ridiculous.

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 7>And the problem I think that you have is, especially

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 7>with a city like Dallas, you know, there isn't a

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 7>lot of storyline.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 9>So because there wasn't a lot of storyline, I.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 7>Ended up having to be a lot of other people's storyline,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 7>which is just exhausting. I mean, I do believe I

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 7>have the most famous unexhausted line ever, but I mean

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 7>it like it can get exhausting. And I knew that

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 7>as long as I stayed, I would continue to be

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 7>the target.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 9>And I just book break cut the tie.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's it's like you don't want to be there,

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's like you can if that's like your frame,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's like okay, great, like you're I'm going to

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>be the villain I don't care, like, you know, cash

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the checks goodbye, But when you have that, I personally

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it because it's just like I want too

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>many people to know my heart and know my you know,

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>the reasoning for things, and if it's always being twisted

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>like I would just be, I could see how that

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>would cause a strain in my marriage and just in

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 2>general and work in life like that would be really tough.

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>So do you still talk to any of the girls.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I do, Yeah, I do. I mean, I will

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 7>say that last season was my hardest, both in my

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 7>marriage and personally. And you know, it's just really devastating

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 7>what people are willing to say about.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 9>You and you have no control over it.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 7>So I think, yeah, I think since leaving the show,

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 7>my marriage and my home life and my friends, Oh

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 7>my god, my friends. Can I just tell you when

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 7>the season ended and everybody's like, who's going to come back?

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 7>Who's going to come back? I legit. I had a

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 7>friend invention where all my friends came over and they

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 7>were like, Leanne, we love you, we just got you back.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 7>You're funny again, You're lighthearted. We don't want to see

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 7>you go through that anymore. We don't want to listen

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 7>to you cry for another year. We just don't you

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 7>deserve better. And you know what's funny is when you say, like,

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 7>cash the check and just not worry about it. Well,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 7>that would be great if I had like an Atlanta

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 7>household check, but I don't. I had a Dallas check

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 7>and the ratings are barely higher than Salt Lakes.

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<v Speaker 9>So you can imagine it went.

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<v Speaker 2>Very big, right, I guess, like you can look at it,

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, then you use it to like build

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>a brand. But at the same time, you're like, is

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>that even worth it at the end of the day,

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean you see how fast things can

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 2>your brands. If you get canceled off a show, your

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>brand can go away. The same time, well, I think

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I will say this.

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 7>You say, I'm sure, stay on and build a brand.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 7>But if you're on and the choices they may are

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 7>to show you in a light or twist you into

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 7>something that nobody wants a piece of that brand, well

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 7>then what's the purpose. So now you're barely making six

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 7>figures and your brand and your name are in the

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 7>gutter because of what other people have decided to say

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 7>about you. Whether it's fact or not doesn't matter. The

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 7>truth doesn't matter in reality TV.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so leanne on a positive note, are what do

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you want to do now? Like, what's your vision for

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one with everything that you know you can control?

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I'm excited.

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 9>I'm so excited.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 7>You know my life hasn't changed from leaving the show.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm still out there. Sunday night, I was doing the

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 7>virtual gala for Unlikely Heroes, which is based there in La.

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 7>They're out there rescuing and recovering children and women from

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 7>sex trafficking all over the world, but mostly in Mexico

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 7>and Thailand. And so did that Sunday night. Today at

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 7>four o'clock, I'm building a gingerbread house for alcohol recovery center.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, I did a food drive on Sunday for

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 7>Aid Services Dallas. Here in town, I don't stop the need. Listen,

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 7>when the need stops, i'll stop. But the need in

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 7>my community doesn't end. So because of that, I want

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 7>to be present and I want to be a positive

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 7>ripple that shows people.

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 9>How they can help one another. You know, I think

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 9>a lot of people.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 7>I think more people would help if they knew how

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 7>So I'm going to continue my nonprofit. I'm an ambassador

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 7>for Bryan's House here in Dallas, which takes care of

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 7>critically and medically sensitive children and emotionally and physically sensitive children,

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 7>so they really handle special.

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 9>Needs and I love what they do, so I'm I'm

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 9>you know, doing that.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 7>I still work with Della Street Dog advocates with strays.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 7>The nonprofit world doesn't end. Not my nonprofit world in

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 7>this city still relies on me to make a difference,

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 7>and as long as they.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 9>Need help, I'll be there.

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 7>Personally, what I'm looking forward to is getting way back

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 7>into what I wanted to do in season one, and

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 7>that is get back into motivation and inspiration and encouraging

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 7>in my own unique way because you know, I'm not

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, I'm not politically correct.

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 9>I'm not a non bad language using human.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 7>I say it how it comes out, and you know,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 7>just stuff so kind of falls out. So I just

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 7>want people to know that you can still be you

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.959
<v Speaker 7>can still focus on making yourself better without being perfect. Listen,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 7>nobody's perfect, and I think you know, if you find

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 7>someone that you think is perfect on Instagram, beware fire beware,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 7>because you know we all broken one way or another.

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 7>And when you learn to accept that you're broken and

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 7>you learn to take where you are and grow, that's

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 7>when you can really become not only an amazing human

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 7>for yourself, but for your family and for your friends

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 7>and for the community around you. So I'll be doing

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 7>getting back into that, writing a couple of inspiration books

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 7>that I've got coming out for January, February and March,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 7>relaunching all of my affirmation books, which I have thirteen

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 7>affirmation books. Those will relaunch New Year's Day starting. I'm

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 7>working with two jewelry companies.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 9>We're building a huge brand.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm calling it a candy land, because you know I

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 7>think of jewelry and stuff like that as candy.

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm you know, still taking my DJ lessons.

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm still wanting. My goal in life is still one

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 7>day to DJA a party. You know, I don't slow

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 7>down just because you know I'm not on that particular show.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's amazing, And a few things. First, the fact

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>that you had that friend intervention from your friend. I mean,

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 3>that's some real friends right there that they're able to

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 3>do that. I mean, that's the kind of people you

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 3>want to surround yourself in life, which is amazing. Second,

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 3>it seems like you are full of life and energy

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>since leaving the show, and just you're able to do

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 3>all this, So that's encouraging for us, you know, being

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 3>able to talk to you a couple of years ago

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 3>and seeing you now, that's amazing and we're happy for you.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 3>And last thing before we let you go, we talked

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>earlier in the show about something that came up and

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 3>we read a survey that a few years ago that

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>said the National Sleep Foundation that almost one and four

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 3>married couples sleep in separate bedrooms. Do you and Richard?

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I know, Jane and I are like what, But we

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 3>also talked about we can kind of see how it's

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>enticing that times do you and Richard sleep every single

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 3>night together?

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 7>At times makey like when he's like right now, he's

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 7>got a fever and he's been was coughing all night.

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 7>Trust me, at three am when he was coughing, I

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 7>was like, if I could pick you up and carry

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 7>you into another room, I would, but no, but no, no,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 7>laying down in bed at night and talking about what

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 7>you want to accomplish the next day and what's important

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 7>to you and I mean so sweet. My husband every

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 7>night says, honey, are you mad at me? And I'm like, no, baby,

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 7>not at all. I'm just falling asleep, And I love

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 7>that we fall asleep holding hands. We're best friends. If

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 7>you are at a point where you're not communicating or

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 7>feeling love from your spouse and you're.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 9>Not in the same room, how are you not just roommates?

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 8>You know what I mean?

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 7>Like, I understand, I understand in the pandemic how that

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:54.439
<v Speaker 7>can be convenient. But value yourself more and want more

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 7>for yourself because every human deserves, at their base core

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 7>unconditional love, So you need to find someone that.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 9>Will love you that way.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I agree with that. It's almost like you're blurring the

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 3>lines there. If you start to act like roommates too much,

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 3>things get, you know, things get sticky, because then you're

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 3>not as connected.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 7>You aren't connected, And I think that's the most Communication

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 7>is the most important thing in a relationship. In any relationship, communication,

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 7>I will say my husband loves to make me laugh,

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 7>not that he does it in ways that I would

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 7>ever share with another human that doesn't genuinely know who

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 7>we are, because people would be like, oh my god,

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 7>did he just do that. I'm like, yeah, I mean,

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, he'll pop me on the back of the

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 7>head sometimes and I'll be like, don't touch the driver.

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 9>You know, we just we're kids.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 7>When we lose the joy of being around each other

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 7>and laughing together and wanting to make each other's lives better,

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 7>then that's when you have to really look at what's going.

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 9>On with not just your relationship, but with you and

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 9>what you really want from life. And you have to

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 9>be honest. And so many people struggle.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.479
<v Speaker 7>They struggle, not just to be honest with the world,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 7>but sometimes I think people struggle to be.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 9>Honest with themselves even more.

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 5>So.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you got you gotta get real if you want it,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 7>if you want a real life, you got to.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, Leanne, thank you so much for your time. We

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 3>appreciate it. We're happy for you and so excited for

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 3>all the things that you got coming up.

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Lianne.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 7>You and I'm happy for y'all. You look a little skinnier.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Not pregnant anymore. Thanks, Thank you so much, Leanne.

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 3>We appreciate your time.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 7>Thanks guys, Happy holiday Christmas.

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's got a lot going on, she does, and

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's just such a curse. It can

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 2>be such a curse if you are on a reality

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 2>show and then you don't have the capabilities of editing

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it because you know, you've seen how people can get

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>so twisted, and then it's once people make their mind

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 2>up about you, it's it's hard.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 3>To especially especially on that scale. Yeah, yeah, that's a

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 3>that's a gamble right there for anybody that does that.

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean even with you know, we don't obviously need

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to bring it up, but just when someone has a

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>preconceived notion of what they just see on you know,

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>websites or something, they you know, they don't want they

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 2>don't take the knowledge to get to know the person

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>or know the actual facts behind it, and they just

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 2>read what they see and it's not always the truth.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, we can get real with it.

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 4>We don't.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't, I don't.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, you know, no, I think it's.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 2>If you want to talk about it, we can. That's

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>totally up to you.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 3>And re marks behind his screen right now, like.

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, no, it's it's it's sad and it makes it

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's the whole point. And what I was just

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>saying was you know that it people don't give the

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 2>benefit of someone's real heart, and they just read stories

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and they make up their mind about people, you know,

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of people that dislike us because

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of our story. But something just happened recently with Mike

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and if he wants to share it, but it was

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>just it's just so it's such a personal attack too.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Unfortunately, like one of my biggest fears was validated

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 3>from a professional standpoint where I was gonna Initially things

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 3>were looking good. I was going to partner with this

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>company to work on something that I've really wanted to

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 3>work on, and and you've.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Put a lot of hard work into it. I mean

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hard work. The company was very gung

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>ho and also just you know, very receptive and very

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 2>involved for about I say, like two or three weeks. Yeah,

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>just like all like you know, and he took a

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of time, a lot of nights, a lot of

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.399
<v Speaker 2>the hours in the day, and really like worked hard

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>on this project.

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. And then once things got into you know,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 3>paperwork being drawn up and more you know, legal teams

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 3>being involved in everything, all of a sudden things took

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 3>a turn and I started getting emails that It felt

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 3>like smoking me. It felt like just smoke, like, actually,

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, we realized it wasn't a good thing for

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Q one, but maybe Q two. It's something we can

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 3>revisit and this and that and the design of book

0:44:55.280 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and everything. Every obstacle they stated, I've fired by Okay,

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 3>if this is a problem, let's do this, let's do that, like,

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 3>let's talk about it, let's all conform all, you know,

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 3>offered a solution for every single problem that they were,

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 3>obstacle that they brought up. I was like, it doesn't

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 3>have to be in Q one. Let's but let's keep

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>this train roll and let's talk about things for late.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 3>And then, you know, after my last email last week,

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 3>heard nothing back.

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:21.959
<v Speaker 2>And then let's say they wanted to do a zoom.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 2>They're like, okay, let's set a zoom to talk about

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>all of this.

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then our manager followed up, Well, that wasn't

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 3>even the last thing. The last thing was there were

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 3>more emails after the zoom talk yeah, because again they

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>were just kicking the can down the road. And then

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>ultimately our manager followed up this morning and they came

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>back with just a very direct like, yeah, it doesn't

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 3>seem like the direction we want to go. So if

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 3>that was the case from Jump Street, I wouldn't take

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 3>it as personal as I ended up taking it. And

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>my biggest fear since all of this stuff with jan

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and I is that opportunities will be taken away from

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 3>me because of me publicly being a sex addict.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh wow.

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 3>And it's really hard because there's there was one hundred

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 3>and eighty.

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Degree shift once she brought in her team.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Once the legal team and stuff like that were brought.

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>In, and it's also part of a kid's company.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I see, So you were vetted and then their

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<v Speaker 4>tone changed and you felt they said the playoff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it would be different if if as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as the team came in that was said kind of

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<v Speaker 3>from the get go, but it was the whole kicking

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<v Speaker 3>the can down the road and like smoking me, like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't give me this bullshit about well, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>the financials and this size of an order and like

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<v Speaker 3>just tell me, hey, you know what, after further review,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to work out. So sorry, well okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>don't sit there and with me.

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<v Speaker 2>After a few weeks of everything was great. It was

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<v Speaker 2>until she brought in her other partner legal team is

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<v Speaker 2>what it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like, yeah, so it's you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I did my best at in Janet you know, did

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<v Speaker 3>her best supporting me and being like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's we can't go there and think that it's that personal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just my shame. And I was like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, it's my coming up. It's just my fear.

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<v Speaker 3>But then just the way things unfolded even this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't see how it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when we've offered solutions for every obstacle accent So it

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<v Speaker 3>just sucks.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's one of those things that just it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the scarlet A in a way. You know, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be naive to think that some opportunities wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>taken away because of society's lack of acceptance. Understandably so

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<v Speaker 3>with this disease at times and right now, so but

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<v Speaker 3>still it stings because it you know, I tend to

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<v Speaker 3>take take things more personally anyways, So when it a

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<v Speaker 3>fears validated around the most shameful thing that I have

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<v Speaker 3>as an individual, not a great feeling. So but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to do my work to not dwell on

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<v Speaker 3>it that this is where the stuff about. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>majority of people in twelve step programs live with inonymity

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<v Speaker 3>and be able to live that way. This is where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, you know, must be nice. I love you, thanks, Anny,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's all I need.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you too, Mark. Why are you looking at

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<v Speaker 2>us just such a Yeah, we're gonna do something and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna blow their company out of the water.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for the throat, go for the jugular. Okay, all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we hope y'all have a marry marry, Marry, Mary, Marry, marry,

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<v Speaker 2>merry Christmas, and we can't wait to wind down after Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Fullis Nada and this Christmas we'll be