1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Javin Kramer and Michael Coffin and I'm 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: her radio podcast The Black Market and Nails. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because I feel like, oh, sorry, before 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: we started this episode, I was showing everyone my nails 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: over zoom because I just got my nails done and 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: very festive, might iadd very christmasy. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: But you didn't even get them done. You got them did? 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: I got them did? But Mark and them we're saying 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: that there's no nail salons. I forgot that. You guys 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: are in full lockdown in La pretty much. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to get your hair done, you 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: got to go to some back alley, your garage somewhere 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 4: where somebody will do it on the down low. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: I just, I mean, I don't know. It's I just 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It just sucks. I mean because we're 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: not really going out out. I mean we've we've we're 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: doing a few things for the kids, but we're limiting 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: like who we see. But I feel like when we 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: when I do do the nails, and I guess that's 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: going out. But I mean, you know, you're wearing the 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: mask and you're like, is this really doing anything? But 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: I still wear it and honestly, now, I kind of 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: love the mask because it's cold, so I like, I 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: find myself like leaving Whole Foods or wherever and still 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: have the mask on because I'm like, this is actually 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: kind of cozy, Like I like it. So I'm complying 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: with no issues because it's freezing in Nashville right now. Yeah, finally, 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 2: everything is so cold. And we just had our hvat 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: guy because our poor son's room is uh he woke up. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean literally like like he's the only house like 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: the only room in the house where it's you walk 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: in and it's like fifty degrees and I've just some 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: like listen, people, you've come five times now, I'm like, 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: you are not leaving until there is warm air blowing 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: out of my son's vent And they're like, just leave 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the door open, and I was. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: Like, that's not the right answer. Fix it now, poor 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: little guy. I wish I could sleep out there some 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: days because it's so chilly and I love it, go 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: for it. But I think we have it text hopefully 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: we'll find out tonight. 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: It's whenever I hear that people don't sleep in the 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: same room, it makes me sad, But at the same time, 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's because they're maybe not connected. But I 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: would be fine if we like did our thing in 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: bed and cuddled and then it's like okay, good night, 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: and then like you go to the other room. Because 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: I really like to spread out, you know, like I 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: really like to just like starfishes when she Yeah, I 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: don't like to just be, you know, just in the corner. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: So sometimes it's really nice when we get into a 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: fight and I'm like, they go to the other room. 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: A lot of new homes are being built with two 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: master bedrooms. 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: It's a definite trend in this direction. 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: But I feel like that could be bad though, too, 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: unless like if you're not having the connection time before 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: you go to the other room, does that make sense? 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: Like I know a couple that doesn't do any connection 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: time before they go to their separate suites. I mean 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense, Like, you know, I do 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: like having someone next to me though, but every once 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: in a while it's maybe like hey, every Monday, like 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: you don't sleep in bed. 65 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not opposed, but the whole trend of 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: this being a thing, I mean, that's just dividing. 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: No, that doesn't seem. 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: That's Yeah, that's just putting a bigger wedge in relationships 69 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: and monogamy, I feel like, because even sometimes it's those 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: things where you go to bed and just knowing the 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: other person's right next to you. Otherwise it might feel 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: like an apartment, you know what I mean. If like 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: you go to the other room and you have this 74 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: whole other setup and every night you're pretty much doing 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: your own routine, that'll just feel weird. 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: That's why I take a lot of comfort in her 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: being there. 78 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: That's why I say I don't like sleeping alone, because 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: I really like looking over and having her next to me. 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 4: But to underscore my point, Architectural Digest this year called 81 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: it the hottest new trend in home building double master bedrooms. 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Wow, what a fresh topic. We didn't even know we were 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: going to get onto. That's so interesting, you know, yeah, 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: definitely interesting. But then when I say that I could 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: fall asleep cut like laying on top of you, Like 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: I love cuddling and falling asleep, but that's not really 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: your thing. So I've kind of morphed into like, okay, 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: like you can go then if you want. 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: If I can't cut and fall asleep when you I'm out. 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: I want to starfish get out of their room. 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: That's so interesting. What is this? According to a twenty 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: seventeen survey from the National Sleep Foundation, almost one in 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: four married coupled sleep and separate bedrooms. 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: I don't. I bet it's probably like because they're I 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: will say this, I if you snored, I could not 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: sleep in the same room. 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, right back at you, Like I'd be like, you have. 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: To leave because that would just be or if you 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: If I have a zero tolerance policy when it comes 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: to story. 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: Okay, mister e snore, wait more. 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: But if I do, it's because I'm really, really, really, 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: really really tired. 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: My two roommates in college once we're all was off campus, 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: so the way our townhouse was set up, all was 108 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: on the main floor. We had a basement, and their 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: two rooms were across from each other, above me, and 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: they both snore so bad you would think they're faking 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: it right, Like it was literally like you can't be asleep. 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: There's no way they're asleep because the story is that bad. 113 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 3: And they would be and it's like they would compete 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: with each other out here one in one room. You'd 115 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: be loud. The other one would get louder and just escalate. 116 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: And my room's underneath them. This is college housing, right, 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: so it's not like you can hear everything in every room. 118 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: And I would get upset with them. I oufter go 119 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: upstairs and wake their asses up, because I'm like, I 120 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: can hear you downstairs, like, stop snoring. Wake them up, 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: so I could try to go back downstairs fall asleep 122 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: before they start storing again. I hate it. 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: Is it like your vomiting noise? Like it's so overdone 124 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: that like it's like I'm vaking it. It's like you're 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: vaking it. 126 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, let's take a break and I have another 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: topic I want to bring up. Oh, okay, So the 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: topic I want to bring up. I've read something on 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: this recently. I didn't really read any like facts. 130 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: About it or I didn't really read it, but I read, 131 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: but just the. 132 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: Topic of it was interesting to me. And what was 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: something that you used to hate that now you love running? Running? 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah that was easy. Yeah, scary movies and in the 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: course of our relationship, like I've hated them, but I 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: want to watch them more. One thing I refuse to 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: what happens to like mustard. 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: No, never, oh never. We are a no mustard house. 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: No mustard is allowed. If we have burgers. We even 140 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: say to people, b yo, m because we will not 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: have it. 142 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: No, we do not purchase. We do not waste hard 143 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: earn money on mustard. But you know, another one for 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: you is that I thought you're gonna say it's beats. 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well okay, I didn't know like food anything. 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: Oh right, but that's not where like my mind didn't 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: go to like food, you know. Ye, No, I like 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: love beats now. I used to hate beats. Now I like. 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: But they say your taste buds and I could be wrong, 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, Becky, But your taste buds 151 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: change every seven years, so something that you might so 152 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: maybe mustard. I mean, we don't know, never refuse. But 153 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: I didn't think I would like beats. And then all 154 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: of a sudden I had this make this beat carrot 155 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: goat cheese thing and it was the best thing I 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: ever had in my entire life. And now I have it. 157 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: I almost have it. 158 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: Anytime I go to the store. She's like, don't forget 159 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: to get my beats. Like she's like like like she's 160 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: loved them. For ten years. It's just like you forgot 161 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: my beats. You know, my mom has got to have 162 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: her beats. I'm like, you just started liking them yesterday. 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Anything you guys can think of for. 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 6: Me, cooking in general, I was not confident in it 165 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: for the very long time, and just this year I 166 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: got to be feeling good about it and I really 167 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 6: enjoy it, and it's something I really like. 168 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: So just cooking, cooking, I like it. 169 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 5: Mine is musicals. 170 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,239 Speaker 7: Wow. 171 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: My wife brings it up sometimes because when we first 172 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: got together, I was like, no way, no, how Once 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 4: I started singing, I'm out. Now I find them delightful. 174 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: They bring me great joy. And maybe part of it 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: is my daughter is so in the broad Away and whatnot. 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 4: But I feel like the transition had already started before that. 177 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: I really enjoy a good musical. 178 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: Is there one in particular that kind of what do 179 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: you remember the first one that you're like, hmm, it's 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: not that bad? 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 8: You know. 182 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: Wicked was probably a pretty big turning point for me 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: because I thought that was pretty spectacular. 184 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: And you saw the Broadway show. 185 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: In La the Pantagious, Yeah, major, Can you. 186 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Here's my question? Can you watch them on like a movie. 187 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: Yes, I loved La La Land. 188 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: We couldn't get through the first like ten minutes. 189 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: Wow, which is okay, maybe we should go back and 190 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: watch Lalla Land. I mean we didn't. We ended within yeah, 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: like five minutes. We're like, not a thing. 192 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, though, Mark, because literally last night. 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Whatever night we were fighting last night. 194 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: Or the night before, I don't know, it's sorry to 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: keep track. Yeah, I'm a gambling man. Good odds here, Jana. 196 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: I was on my phone. Jana comes in and starts 197 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: going on Netflix and turns on the prom with James 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: Corbt or what's the name Corbyn and Meryl Streep and 199 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: all them turns it on. 200 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: As the minute that I didn't know what it was about. 201 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, Meryl Street, Nicole kidman, I 202 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: have a story about that, by the way, but go ahead. 203 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: And as soon as they get to like the third 204 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: note of the opening song, she clicks out of it next. 205 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: And I was like, I can't do this. But today 206 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: when I was running on the treadmill and I was like, ugh, 207 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: like I got nothing else to do while I'm running, 208 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: I'll watch it. It's hilarious, really, Ryan Murphy. Have you 209 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: seen it? 210 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: No, but I'd like to wait, is it appropriate like 211 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: my daughter if I love it? 212 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about this girl who is lesbian take a 213 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: same section with girls and wants to take her partner 214 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: to the prom and they cancel prom and so they 215 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: make this huge deal about it. And then the Broadway 216 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: stars because Meryl Streep and Nicole Kidman and James Corbyn 217 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: are these Broadway stars but their showed is really bad, 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: so they're trying to redeem theirselves. But the numbers are hilarious, 219 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: like they're they're making jokes about like just Broadway in general, 220 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: and then just other things. It's really funny. I'm like, 221 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: I actually kind of want to go back. And because 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: I was, I'm out there after we got into a 223 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: fight this morning, I'm like out there like wiping tears 224 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: and going, oh, this is actually really funny. 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: Going from laughing and crying, crying to laughing. 226 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: So I was like, this is actually really good. So 227 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: I want to actually want to watch it with you, 228 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: because I think you would laugh at some of the 229 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: parts because they're like, it's just funny. 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 3: I'll watch it. I never have have had anything against musicals, 231 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: Broadway shows, I love I have always have huge fan 232 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: of them. I'll go to any Broadway show. Book of 233 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: Mormon is one. 234 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: The Mormons is our favorite. 235 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 8: I have. 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: Tears belly laughing when we went and saw that. We 237 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: saw that at Pantages. 238 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: And if anyone goes, yeah to Pantages. I don't know 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: if Broadways shoes are Are they even open right now? 240 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's gut wrenching. We're in a pandemic news flash, 241 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: reality check. Yeah. Crazy, But Book of Mormons is by 242 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: far my favorite. I mean I was like bawling, crying. 243 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 5: I love that. 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: Love Jersey Boys, I mean Hamilton. I just sat on 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: Disney Plus and it was phenomenal. 246 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: So we were going to get tickets to Hamilton, but 247 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: it was too expensive. I was like, I can't, Okay, 248 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: is it still it's good over because it's long. 249 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 8: Right, it is long. 250 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 5: But I really enjoyed it on Disney Plus. 251 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: We had tickets for it this past July or whatever, 252 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: and then all got canceled. 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 5: So my daughter was pretty devastating about that. So we're 254 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: gonna hopefully check it out once everything's up and running again. 255 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have an appointment. Uh uh what No, I 256 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: just said we have an appointment. 257 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: Uh oh, an appointment to talk to the doctor. 258 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 9: Yeah about number. 259 00:12:53,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: Three, Mark, what are you doing. It's just a conversation. 260 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: We're just weighing options. 261 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: But you both seem interested and excited, Like I don't 262 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: see any kind of bristling on either side. 263 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: It was actually I wanted one, he didn't, and then 264 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: I was like fine, and then it was once I 265 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: felt good about it, then he was like I really 266 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: want another one, and I was like, oh, like what 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: where's this. Where's this coming from. 268 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: It's coming from Jase getting bigger, and. 269 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: But that's the reason not to have a third one. 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: They say like, don't do it because you want baby. 271 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Trust me, it's no. I know that's what you've been saying. 272 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: You're like, I want a baby or a puppy. 273 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 8: Give me. 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: The fact that you can weigh the two in the 275 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: same category is not not. 276 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 7: Here's the thing. 277 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't want the baby because I'm thinking about it 278 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: and I'm saying like, I'm not just wanting like a baby. 279 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Because the other day we were at you know, we 280 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: went to see the lights and took the kids sledding, 281 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: and it's like, man, they're good right now. Can you 282 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: imagine a third baby, A third kid would be fun, right. 283 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: And that's the thing too. I think that people especially, 284 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, people in our situation that might 285 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: look past the infant stage where it's you know, Jolie 286 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: is going to be five, Jason's two. They're getting those 287 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: prime ages of like doing all this stuff right, going 288 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: to see light shows, going to Christmas things, trying and 289 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: doing all these fun activities because they both can enjoy 290 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: it now. And then it's like, if if we end 291 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: up having a third, we're not going to sacrifice Jolie 292 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: and Jason's enjoyment. So we're just having to be lugging 293 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: a third along for the ride. 294 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: Here a kid, take your bottle. Yeah, I love babies though, 295 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: they're so sweet. 296 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: I see why parents Just the more kids you have, 297 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: the more lenient you get later on because you're just 298 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: like whatever here you want to eat now, shore you 299 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: want to eat later? Whatever, here's some cheerios at it, dude. 300 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: So having o'clock of. 301 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: Nights like fish food just a little bit each day. 302 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see though, Mark and Easton and Becky, you 303 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: guys will be the first to know, I hope. 304 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: So that's exciting. I mean, you got to think about it. 305 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: A family of five is different in terms of restaurants, 306 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: getting out a roller coaster, in terms of your car, 307 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: in terms of making Jason the middle child, like, there's 308 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff I think. 309 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Through here, so I would want two more. Okay, I 310 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: don't know though it I'll I mean, Becky just said 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: your babysit, so that's good news. She lives in California. 312 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: A little small, small issue. 313 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: It's fine, you know. The other day too, I had 314 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: the kids in the morning and I went and ransom 315 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: errands with them and had both of them, and it 316 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: was great. The kids were awesome, They behaved. I went 317 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: took them to home depot and had them on one 318 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: of like the push cars, and they both sat on 319 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: there as good as could be. They loved it. They're 320 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: like tired of the old shopping cart. Just I just 321 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: got to start taking them to home beepo and pushing 322 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: them on one of those. And I came back and 323 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: told Jane. I was like, you know, it was so 324 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: great having them. They were so good. I was like, 325 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: but if I were I started picturing if I was 326 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: holding a car sheet right now, or holding like a 327 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: baby carrier right now while I'm pushing the other kids, 328 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: I was like, that would be a lot, It's a 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: lot to think about. 330 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: Well later today we have an email from somebody who's 331 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: in a similar situation, but they are not on the 332 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 4: same page as their spouse. 333 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Chilli. I don't know though, I mean because we have 334 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: to just I mean, the other thing to discuss is 335 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: like I had hyperremess with jas and pretty much Jolie too. 336 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm mean, I puked all the way and we've had miscarriages, 337 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: so I'm like, you know, we've even talked about maybe 338 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: not carrying because if we have one shot at it, 339 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: my body's probably not the body to carry it with 340 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: all the miscarriages and you know, so it but yeah, 341 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: we're just we're just gonna talk about all our options 342 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: and then put it on the table and drink a 343 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: lot of wine and then figure it out. You know. 344 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: That's where we do things. 345 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: What's the email? I want it. Let's do that, do 346 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: it now? Yeah, we don't formats bother me. 347 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: Structure. I want structure. 348 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: Structure. 349 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 3: Jillian. 350 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: My husband and I have been married for four years 351 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: and together for ten. We have a two year old daughter, 352 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: and my husband has recently made it very clear that 353 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 4: he doesn't want any more children. I am heartbroken knowing 354 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: that I will have no more babies and my daughter 355 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 4: will not have a sibling. 356 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: When I bring up my disappointment. 357 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: All he says is that it's too much to handle 358 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: and that he doesn't know what else to say. 359 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: I'm lost. I don't know where to go from here. 360 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: I love my husband. 361 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 4: I don't want to split up my family, but I 362 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: don't think I can accept having an only child without 363 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: feeling resentful for the rest of my life. 364 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: There it is the word I was going to bring up. 365 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: She's going to be so resentful. And nothing against only children. 366 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean my cousin's and only child. He's the you know, 367 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: they turn out fine, but there is something like I 368 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: that would really be tough for me, because I think, 369 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: if anything, like it's easier having too because they play 370 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: together one. 371 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: Hundred per se. 372 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: They entertain each other. 373 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Once the other one gets to like two years old, 374 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: they'll sit there and play with each. 375 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: Other, Like we have mad breaks right now with Jason Jolie, 376 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: Like will we get like sometimes fifteen minutes where they 377 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: just play together and we're like, this is amazing. 378 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we'll go play like Monopoly deal real quick. 379 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: We will. So it's like, and you don't want to 380 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: be resentful. I mean, I'm not saying to leave your husband, 381 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: but you need to really tell him. 382 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: Why has a husband say it's too much to handle. 383 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: Just have them listened to this podcast and they'll say, hello, husband, 384 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: it's not too much to handle. They're going to play together. 385 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: It's not you, it's you're thinking in you're thinking short term. Yeah, husband, 386 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: you're thinking of I get it, the sleepless nights, that 387 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: when the babies cry and all that stuff. I get it. 388 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: Having two is hard. But once you get past us 389 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: first eighteen months, it's amazing. 390 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: Once you get past the first like I'm. 391 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: Saying, when they start, oh yeah, when they start sleeping again, 392 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: it's it's a game changer. But when they're starting to 393 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: play together, it's not just for our own benefit, but 394 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: for their benefit to see that. I mean, Jason Joly 395 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: interact with each other, and Jace just be a little 396 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: pest little brother and wrestle Jolie. 397 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: And I wonder if I wonder if there's a survey 398 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: out there where it's like they surveyed single only children 399 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: and ask them would you have wanted a sibling. I 400 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: bet you they would say yes. You know, it's almost 401 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: like you're doing it for the kid too. 402 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: I thought you're going to go a different direction and 403 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: say they surveyed only children and said how much of 404 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: how many of you are psychopaths or sociopathic or serial 405 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: killers or okay, yeah, I don't know. 406 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Like I said, Carl is an only child, and he's you. 407 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: Know, but I because Uncle Ray is like a brother. 408 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: Right, but he I think maybe he took that role 409 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: because they wish they would have had more kids, you know, 410 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: so I think, but you don't want to wait too long. 411 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: So I feel like, if you have a two year old, 412 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: they have a two year old, right, you should just 413 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: be like, listen, buddy. But here's the problem. You don't 414 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 2: want him to be resentful that he has another one 415 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: when he really doesn't want another one. So then it's 416 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: just going to be resentment ali with both people. 417 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: He's not gonna he'll get over that. He's gonna hold 418 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: that little baby and he'll be like, all right. 419 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: I think so too. 420 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: But also we're dad's and we have numerous children, so 421 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, and everybody's different. This is a really 422 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: hard one because she's clearly, according to this email, has 423 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: given thought to leaving her husband over this, and I 424 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 4: wonder if she's communicated that to him. 425 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: I wonder if he realizes. 426 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: How passionate she is about this, because guys like you 427 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: said thanks short term, Oh it's. 428 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: Gonna be a hassle. Yeah, it is gonna be a hassle. 429 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: But then that hassle is going to be behind you. 430 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 431 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 8: I think make it clear to. 432 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: Him this is probably a terrible idea. You're welcome to 433 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: tell me that. Is there a negotiation to be made. 434 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: Here, like I'll have sex with you every day if 435 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: you give me another baby, like that kind of negotiation, 436 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: because I had a friend that got a puppy and 437 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: made that deal and she has not love you boo boo, 438 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: like she has not done what she's not held up 439 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: her under the bargain. 440 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: I was thinking more like, ask him what's the biggest 441 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: house is are going to be and tell him you'll 442 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: take care of it. And maybe maybe that's a terrible idea, 443 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: like that should definitely be a team effort. But maybe 444 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: it's the late night feedings you promise that he doesn't 445 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: have to deal with it, or maybe he sit in 446 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: a separate bedroom for the first year. I don't know, 447 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: but maybe there's a path where you figure out what 448 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: he's most concerned about and try to alleviate it. 449 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: For I think that's a great idea. Actually, what's your 450 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: biggest fear about having another and how. 451 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: Can I, you know, help help that, because, like he said, 452 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 2: it seems like it's going to be a lot. Well, 453 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: there you go. You're just saying, what is a lot? 454 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Because I can do that and moms can do it all. 455 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 3: That you can. 456 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: I will say, I appreciate you foolding the kid's laundry. 457 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: I feel like that's karma for the one out of 458 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: five hundred times. And I love how you do it too, 459 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: Like you like make all the noise in the room 460 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: when you're folding the laundry because you want me to 461 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: see that you did the kid's laundry. And that was 462 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: what the most annoying part of the entire thing was. 463 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, honey, you want me to say thank 464 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: you for the one time out of five hundred that 465 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: you did the kid's laundry. 466 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: Oh, strategic boys, I did it when she was mad 467 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: at me. 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: What noises are you making? 469 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 470 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 9: How do you make noise? 471 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: Like throwing the clothes? 472 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 473 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: Just like really yeah, really making long, big arm movements. 474 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: When he folds our little baby two te pajamas. 475 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: You'd have thought all was folding flags and sheets in here, 476 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: baby whipping bedcovers and stuff. 477 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, with kids, jam And I knew what you were doing. 478 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: You did it on the day that we were fighting. 479 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, she can't be that mad at me. 480 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing the kid's laundry. 481 00:22:59,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 5: Suck it. 482 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: Strategy, boys, what were we even fighting about? 483 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: I don't know who knows, No one ever knows. She 484 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: comes with a marriage territory, all right. So we have 485 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: a guest coming up here soon, Leanne Lockin, who a 486 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Yeah, she was. We had her 487 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: on the show in the early days. And she's a 488 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: real housewife or was a real housewife of Dallas and 489 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: she recently left the show. 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Are you drinking a mountain dew? 540 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing? 541 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: I love you. 542 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 7: I used to you know it has It has tripled 543 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 7: the caffeine of any other soft drink. 544 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: I used to drink those, the ruby redkind in high school. 545 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: Every single day I get one. I love those nine 546 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: in the morning. 547 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: So many cavities, Okay, let's not. 548 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 7: You can get diet though, and it has the same 549 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 7: amount of caffeine with no sugar. 550 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: I stop drinking pop like a pop you know? I 551 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: like a diet coke is that I'll do a fountain 552 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: drink every once while I don't drink caffeine. So mountain 553 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: dew you can have. You can't have caffeine free anyways. Hi, 554 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: how are you? Your Christmas setup looks beautiful? 555 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 7: I have a little elf here. 556 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: I love it. 557 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: How is how's how's quarantine? Four years marriage going awesome? 558 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 7: Aw I gotta tell you, you know, I'm the kind 559 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 7: of person that I'm always gone. I mean, last time 560 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: I saw you, I was there and being forced to 561 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 7: stay home and like, look at every corner of my 562 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: house while I constantly have to remind myself it's okay, 563 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 7: take your time. 564 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 9: I'm enjoying the hell out of redoing everything. 565 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 7: I mean, my husband maybe not so much. 566 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 6: You know. 567 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: I feel like that's why there's a home goods store 568 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: or tej Max. I think it is right outside this 569 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: little my gym place our kids go to, And every 570 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: time I leave, that store is opening, and there's always 571 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: a line outside the door. And I'm like, it's probably 572 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: because everyone's just redoing everything in their house. 573 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 7: You know what, I will say this, I have a 574 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 7: lot of people who are like in construction, and so 575 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 7: during the summer when COVID first hit the summertime, everybody 576 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 7: was like putting him. You can't even schedule to get 577 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 7: a pool put in your house right now because they're 578 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: so backed up on orders. So people were putting in 579 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: pools and redoing their outdoors. I redid an entire I 580 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 7: have like a half fake or so one half of 581 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 7: my yard. I'd never even touched that patio before, because 582 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 7: of course we focused on the pool side and I 583 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 7: fixed it all up. I used reclaimed ship black wood 584 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 7: and put up a stucco wall, and it's I loved 585 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 7: every second of it. My husband cannot say the same. 586 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: I have several pictures of him going like. 587 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: This, do you miss not being on the show? 588 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 6: No? 589 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: No, is it one of those things? Where do you 590 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: Because there was backlash like do you do you regret? 591 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Do you regret any part of it? 592 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 7: I mean, I think all human regret things. If you 593 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 7: don't regret, you're basically just an ass right, So certainly 594 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 7: there are things that I regret. But I also I 595 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 7: will say this, there are a lot of things that 596 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 7: got twisted and are so you know what's hard for 597 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: me is and I feel this so deeply. And maybe 598 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 7: it's because I live with you know, an ex law 599 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 7: man who you know, first responder, but I get so 600 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 7: tired of sheic. I want independent, educated thinkers, and so 601 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 7: it gets sometimes it can be a little overwhelming to 602 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 7: not to have a conversation with someone that's just guided 603 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 7: by what they saw. 604 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 9: And not by what reality really is. 605 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: How's it been. I know, you know, you quoted saying 606 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: part of the reason you left the show is to 607 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: spend more time and focus time on your husband and 608 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: family and everything like that. How's it been with you know, 609 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: being recently married in the spring, and really it's like, 610 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: all right, pandemic time, you really get that call time? 611 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 7: Yeah you do, Hi, honey, how are you gonna? 612 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 613 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 7: You know, I will say my husband is really kind 614 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 7: of a genius, not really kind of. He really is 615 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 7: a genius. He quarantines himself in his man cave, and 616 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 7: he he has since the pandemic hit. He was just like, look, 617 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 7: we can beat up each other's butt twenty four to 618 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 7: seven and you know, just do this little or we 619 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 7: can set time that we There are projects we work 620 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 7: on together, there are projects that we work on independently. 621 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 7: But it's just really been a bunch of like love 622 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 7: on the house, love on each other. It's funny, you know, 623 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 7: if we get to a point where we're ready to 624 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 7: pull each other's hair out, He'll just like order a 625 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: meal in and a bottle of wine, and. 626 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 9: I'm happy. 627 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: I feel like that's got to be hard to when 628 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 2: when he said that they twist things, and I think 629 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: it's that's where I don't think I could ever do 630 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: a reality show because you don't really have that full 631 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: control be able to go. 632 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 9: You have no control. 633 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like no control. 634 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 7: You are who you are and that doesn't matter. They 635 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 7: will make you who they need. 636 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 9: You to be for the show. 637 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's just got to like that just has 638 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: to be just soul sucking. 639 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 7: It can be when they. 640 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 9: Take it too far, it's ridiculous. 641 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 7: And the problem I think that you have is, especially 642 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 7: with a city like Dallas, you know, there isn't a 643 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: lot of storyline. 644 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: So because there wasn't a lot of storyline, I. 645 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 7: Ended up having to be a lot of other people's storyline, 646 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 7: which is just exhausting. I mean, I do believe I 647 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 7: have the most famous unexhausted line ever, but I mean 648 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 7: it like it can get exhausting. And I knew that 649 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 7: as long as I stayed, I would continue to be 650 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 7: the target. 651 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 9: And I just book break cut the tie. 652 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that's it's like you don't want to be there, 653 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: and it's like you can if that's like your frame, 654 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: and it's like okay, great, like you're I'm going to 655 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: be the villain I don't care, like, you know, cash 656 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: the checks goodbye, But when you have that, I personally 657 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: couldn't do it because it's just like I want too 658 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: many people to know my heart and know my you know, 659 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: the reasoning for things, and if it's always being twisted 660 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: like I would just be, I could see how that 661 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: would cause a strain in my marriage and just in 662 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: general and work in life like that would be really tough. 663 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: So do you still talk to any of the girls. 664 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? I do, Yeah, I do. I mean, I will 665 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 7: say that last season was my hardest, both in my 666 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 7: marriage and personally. And you know, it's just really devastating 667 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 7: what people are willing to say about. 668 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 9: You and you have no control over it. 669 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 7: So I think, yeah, I think since leaving the show, 670 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 7: my marriage and my home life and my friends, Oh 671 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 7: my god, my friends. Can I just tell you when 672 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 7: the season ended and everybody's like, who's going to come back? 673 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 7: Who's going to come back? I legit. I had a 674 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 7: friend invention where all my friends came over and they 675 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 7: were like, Leanne, we love you, we just got you back. 676 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 7: You're funny again, You're lighthearted. We don't want to see 677 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 7: you go through that anymore. We don't want to listen 678 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 7: to you cry for another year. We just don't you 679 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 7: deserve better. And you know what's funny is when you say, like, 680 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 7: cash the check and just not worry about it. Well, 681 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 7: that would be great if I had like an Atlanta 682 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 7: household check, but I don't. I had a Dallas check 683 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 7: and the ratings are barely higher than Salt Lakes. 684 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 9: So you can imagine it went. 685 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: Very big, right, I guess, like you can look at it, 686 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, then you use it to like build 687 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: a brand. But at the same time, you're like, is 688 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: that even worth it at the end of the day, 689 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, I mean you see how fast things can 690 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: your brands. If you get canceled off a show, your 691 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: brand can go away. The same time, well, I think 692 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: I will say this. 693 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 7: You say, I'm sure, stay on and build a brand. 694 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 7: But if you're on and the choices they may are 695 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 7: to show you in a light or twist you into 696 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 7: something that nobody wants a piece of that brand, well 697 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 7: then what's the purpose. So now you're barely making six 698 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 7: figures and your brand and your name are in the 699 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 7: gutter because of what other people have decided to say 700 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 7: about you. Whether it's fact or not doesn't matter. The 701 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 7: truth doesn't matter in reality TV. 702 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so leanne on a positive note, are what do 703 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: you want to do now? Like, what's your vision for 704 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one with everything that you know you can control? 705 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 7: Yes, I'm excited. 706 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 9: I'm so excited. 707 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 7: You know my life hasn't changed from leaving the show. 708 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 7: I'm still out there. Sunday night, I was doing the 709 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 7: virtual gala for Unlikely Heroes, which is based there in La. 710 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 7: They're out there rescuing and recovering children and women from 711 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 7: sex trafficking all over the world, but mostly in Mexico 712 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 7: and Thailand. And so did that Sunday night. Today at 713 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 7: four o'clock, I'm building a gingerbread house for alcohol recovery center. 714 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 7: You know, I did a food drive on Sunday for 715 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 7: Aid Services Dallas. Here in town, I don't stop the need. Listen, 716 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 7: when the need stops, i'll stop. But the need in 717 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 7: my community doesn't end. So because of that, I want 718 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 7: to be present and I want to be a positive 719 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 7: ripple that shows people. 720 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 9: How they can help one another. You know, I think 721 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 9: a lot of people. 722 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 7: I think more people would help if they knew how 723 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 7: So I'm going to continue my nonprofit. I'm an ambassador 724 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 7: for Bryan's House here in Dallas, which takes care of 725 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 7: critically and medically sensitive children and emotionally and physically sensitive children, 726 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 7: so they really handle special. 727 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 9: Needs and I love what they do, so I'm I'm 728 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 9: you know, doing that. 729 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 7: I still work with Della Street Dog advocates with strays. 730 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 7: The nonprofit world doesn't end. Not my nonprofit world in 731 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 7: this city still relies on me to make a difference, 732 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 7: and as long as they. 733 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 9: Need help, I'll be there. 734 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 7: Personally, what I'm looking forward to is getting way back 735 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 7: into what I wanted to do in season one, and 736 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: that is get back into motivation and inspiration and encouraging 737 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 7: in my own unique way because you know, I'm not 738 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 7: you know, I'm not politically correct. 739 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 9: I'm not a non bad language using human. 740 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 7: I say it how it comes out, and you know, 741 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 7: just stuff so kind of falls out. So I just 742 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 7: want people to know that you can still be you 743 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 7: can still focus on making yourself better without being perfect. Listen, 744 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 7: nobody's perfect, and I think you know, if you find 745 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 7: someone that you think is perfect on Instagram, beware fire beware, 746 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 7: because you know we all broken one way or another. 747 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 7: And when you learn to accept that you're broken and 748 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 7: you learn to take where you are and grow, that's 749 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 7: when you can really become not only an amazing human 750 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 7: for yourself, but for your family and for your friends 751 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 7: and for the community around you. So I'll be doing 752 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 7: getting back into that, writing a couple of inspiration books 753 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 7: that I've got coming out for January, February and March, 754 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 7: relaunching all of my affirmation books, which I have thirteen 755 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 7: affirmation books. Those will relaunch New Year's Day starting. I'm 756 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 7: working with two jewelry companies. 757 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 9: We're building a huge brand. 758 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 7: I'm calling it a candy land, because you know I 759 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 7: think of jewelry and stuff like that as candy. 760 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 761 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm you know, still taking my DJ lessons. 762 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 7: I'm still wanting. My goal in life is still one 763 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 7: day to DJA a party. You know, I don't slow 764 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 7: down just because you know I'm not on that particular show. 765 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's amazing, And a few things. First, the fact 766 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: that you had that friend intervention from your friend. I mean, 767 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: that's some real friends right there that they're able to 768 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: do that. I mean, that's the kind of people you 769 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: want to surround yourself in life, which is amazing. Second, 770 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: it seems like you are full of life and energy 771 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: since leaving the show, and just you're able to do 772 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 3: all this, So that's encouraging for us, you know, being 773 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: able to talk to you a couple of years ago 774 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: and seeing you now, that's amazing and we're happy for you. 775 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 3: And last thing before we let you go, we talked 776 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: earlier in the show about something that came up and 777 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: we read a survey that a few years ago that 778 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: said the National Sleep Foundation that almost one and four 779 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: married couples sleep in separate bedrooms. Do you and Richard? 780 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: I know, Jane and I are like what, But we 781 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: also talked about we can kind of see how it's 782 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 3: enticing that times do you and Richard sleep every single 783 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: night together? 784 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 7: At times makey like when he's like right now, he's 785 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 7: got a fever and he's been was coughing all night. 786 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 7: Trust me, at three am when he was coughing, I 787 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 7: was like, if I could pick you up and carry 788 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 7: you into another room, I would, but no, but no, no, 789 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 7: laying down in bed at night and talking about what 790 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 7: you want to accomplish the next day and what's important 791 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 7: to you and I mean so sweet. My husband every 792 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 7: night says, honey, are you mad at me? And I'm like, no, baby, 793 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 7: not at all. I'm just falling asleep, And I love 794 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 7: that we fall asleep holding hands. We're best friends. If 795 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 7: you are at a point where you're not communicating or 796 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 7: feeling love from your spouse and you're. 797 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 9: Not in the same room, how are you not just roommates? 798 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 799 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 7: Like, I understand, I understand in the pandemic how that 800 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 7: can be convenient. But value yourself more and want more 801 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 7: for yourself because every human deserves, at their base core 802 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 7: unconditional love, So you need to find someone that. 803 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 9: Will love you that way. 804 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: I agree with that. It's almost like you're blurring the 805 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: lines there. If you start to act like roommates too much, 806 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: things get, you know, things get sticky, because then you're 807 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: not as connected. 808 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 7: You aren't connected, And I think that's the most Communication 809 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 7: is the most important thing in a relationship. In any relationship, communication, 810 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 7: I will say my husband loves to make me laugh, 811 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 7: not that he does it in ways that I would 812 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 7: ever share with another human that doesn't genuinely know who 813 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 7: we are, because people would be like, oh my god, 814 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 7: did he just do that. I'm like, yeah, I mean, 815 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 7: you know, he'll pop me on the back of the 816 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 7: head sometimes and I'll be like, don't touch the driver. 817 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 9: You know, we just we're kids. 818 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 7: When we lose the joy of being around each other 819 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 7: and laughing together and wanting to make each other's lives better, 820 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 7: then that's when you have to really look at what's going. 821 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 9: On with not just your relationship, but with you and 822 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 9: what you really want from life. And you have to 823 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 9: be honest. And so many people struggle. 824 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,479 Speaker 7: They struggle, not just to be honest with the world, 825 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 7: but sometimes I think people struggle to be. 826 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 9: Honest with themselves even more. 827 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 5: So. 828 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, you got you gotta get real if you want it, 829 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 7: if you want a real life, you got to. 830 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: Well, Leanne, thank you so much for your time. We 831 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: appreciate it. We're happy for you and so excited for 832 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 3: all the things that you got coming up. 833 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Lianne. 834 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 7: You and I'm happy for y'all. You look a little skinnier. 835 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: Not pregnant anymore. Thanks, Thank you so much, Leanne. 836 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. 837 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 7: Thanks guys, Happy holiday Christmas. 838 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: Well, she's got a lot going on, she does, and 839 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just such a curse. It can 840 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 2: be such a curse if you are on a reality 841 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 2: show and then you don't have the capabilities of editing 842 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: it because you know, you've seen how people can get 843 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: so twisted, and then it's once people make their mind 844 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 2: up about you, it's it's hard. 845 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: To especially especially on that scale. Yeah, yeah, that's a 846 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 3: that's a gamble right there for anybody that does that. 847 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean even with you know, we don't obviously need 848 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: to bring it up, but just when someone has a 849 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: preconceived notion of what they just see on you know, 850 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: websites or something, they you know, they don't want they 851 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: don't take the knowledge to get to know the person 852 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: or know the actual facts behind it, and they just 853 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 2: read what they see and it's not always the truth. 854 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 3: Sorry, we can get real with it. 855 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 4: We don't. 856 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: I mean I don't, I don't. 857 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, no, I think it's. 858 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 2: If you want to talk about it, we can. That's 859 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: totally up to you. 860 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: And re marks behind his screen right now, like. 861 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: Hmmm, no, it's it's it's sad and it makes it 862 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 2: but it's the whole point. And what I was just 863 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: saying was you know that it people don't give the 864 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: benefit of someone's real heart, and they just read stories 865 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: and they make up their mind about people, you know, 866 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people that dislike us because 867 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: of our story. But something just happened recently with Mike 868 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: and if he wants to share it, but it was 869 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: just it's just so it's such a personal attack too. 870 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Unfortunately, like one of my biggest fears was validated 871 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: from a professional standpoint where I was gonna Initially things 872 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: were looking good. I was going to partner with this 873 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 3: company to work on something that I've really wanted to 874 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 3: work on, and and you've. 875 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: Put a lot of hard work into it. I mean 876 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: a lot of hard work. The company was very gung 877 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: ho and also just you know, very receptive and very 878 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: involved for about I say, like two or three weeks. Yeah, 879 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: just like all like you know, and he took a 880 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: lot of time, a lot of nights, a lot of 881 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 2: the hours in the day, and really like worked hard 882 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: on this project. 883 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And then once things got into you know, 884 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: paperwork being drawn up and more you know, legal teams 885 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 3: being involved in everything, all of a sudden things took 886 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 3: a turn and I started getting emails that It felt 887 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 3: like smoking me. It felt like just smoke, like, actually, 888 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, we realized it wasn't a good thing for 889 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: Q one, but maybe Q two. It's something we can 890 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: revisit and this and that and the design of book 891 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 3: and everything. Every obstacle they stated, I've fired by Okay, 892 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 3: if this is a problem, let's do this, let's do that, like, 893 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: let's talk about it, let's all conform all, you know, 894 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 3: offered a solution for every single problem that they were, 895 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: obstacle that they brought up. I was like, it doesn't 896 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 3: have to be in Q one. Let's but let's keep 897 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: this train roll and let's talk about things for late. 898 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 3: And then, you know, after my last email last week, 899 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: heard nothing back. 900 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,959 Speaker 2: And then let's say they wanted to do a zoom. 901 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 2: They're like, okay, let's set a zoom to talk about 902 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: all of this. 903 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then our manager followed up, Well, that wasn't 904 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 3: even the last thing. The last thing was there were 905 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 3: more emails after the zoom talk yeah, because again they 906 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 3: were just kicking the can down the road. And then 907 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: ultimately our manager followed up this morning and they came 908 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: back with just a very direct like, yeah, it doesn't 909 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: seem like the direction we want to go. So if 910 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: that was the case from Jump Street, I wouldn't take 911 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 3: it as personal as I ended up taking it. And 912 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 3: my biggest fear since all of this stuff with jan 913 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: and I is that opportunities will be taken away from 914 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: me because of me publicly being a sex addict. 915 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 5: Oh wow. 916 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: And it's really hard because there's there was one hundred 917 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 3: and eighty. 918 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: Degree shift once she brought in her team. 919 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: Once the legal team and stuff like that were brought. 920 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: In, and it's also part of a kid's company. 921 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, So you were vetted and then their 922 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 4: tone changed and you felt they said the playoff. 923 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would be different if if as soon 924 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: as the team came in that was said kind of 925 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 3: from the get go, but it was the whole kicking 926 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 3: the can down the road and like smoking me, like, 927 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 3: don't give me this bullshit about well, you know, the 928 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 3: the financials and this size of an order and like 929 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 3: just tell me, hey, you know what, after further review, 930 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: it's not going to work out. So sorry, well okay, fine, 931 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: don't sit there and with me. 932 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: After a few weeks of everything was great. It was 933 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: until she brought in her other partner legal team is 934 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: what it. 935 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 3: It was just like, yeah, so it's you know, and 936 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 3: I did my best at in Janet you know, did 937 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: her best supporting me and being like, hey, you know, 938 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 3: it's we can't go there and think that it's that personal. 939 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: That's just my shame. And I was like, yeah, you know, 940 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 3: you're right, it's my coming up. It's just my fear. 941 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: But then just the way things unfolded even this morning, 942 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't see how it's not you know, 943 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 3: when we've offered solutions for every obstacle accent So it 944 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 3: just sucks. 945 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 7: Man. 946 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 3: It's it's one of those things that just it's like 947 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: the scarlet A in a way. You know, it's I mean, 948 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: I'll be naive to think that some opportunities wouldn't be 949 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 3: taken away because of society's lack of acceptance. Understandably so 950 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 3: with this disease at times and right now, so but 951 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 3: still it stings because it you know, I tend to 952 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 3: take take things more personally anyways, So when it a 953 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 3: fears validated around the most shameful thing that I have 954 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 3: as an individual, not a great feeling. So but I'm 955 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 3: just trying to do my work to not dwell on 956 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 3: it that this is where the stuff about. You know, 957 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: majority of people in twelve step programs live with inonymity 958 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 3: and be able to live that way. This is where 959 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, must be nice. I love you, thanks, Anny, 960 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: and that's all I need. 961 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: I love you too, Mark. Why are you looking at 962 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: us just such a Yeah, we're gonna do something and 963 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna blow their company out of the water. 964 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 3: And there's my wife. 965 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 2: Go for the throat, go for the jugular. Okay, all right, Well, 966 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: we hope y'all have a marry marry, Marry, Mary, Marry, marry, 967 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: merry Christmas, and we can't wait to wind down after Christmas. 968 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 2: Fullis Nada and this Christmas we'll be