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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on the on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: You know this this is a big blessing, man, and

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Speaker 2: we'll appreciate you being on the show.

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Speaker 3: Man, I keep on waiting.

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Speaker 2: Usually our first question be who was the first person

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Speaker 2: to bust your ass? Two questions, two poort questions. The

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Speaker 2: first person to bust your ass playing basketball?

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Speaker 4: And your first.

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Speaker 2: Business deal that you thought was going to be gold

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Speaker 2: and your ass?

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Speaker 3: You know, playing playing ball. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 3: I was good because I was taller than the most

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Speaker 3: kids up until about sixth grade, so I was the

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Speaker 3: man quarterback everything, and then all of a sudden, everybody

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Speaker 3: shot up by me and it was just like and

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Speaker 3: then I ended up getting cut from the basketball team

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Speaker 3: in high school. Business wise, ain't nobody busting my ass?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've had deals that didn't work out as

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Speaker 3: good as I wanted them to. You know, some of

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Speaker 3: like when you're just getting started, we all do stupid shit, right.

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Speaker 3: I was selling powdered milk, I was doing you just

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Speaker 3: you know, I started a bar that got busted because

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Speaker 3: I let on my friends in. So there we was.

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Speaker 3: There was deals that didn't work out, but none of

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Speaker 3: them that I thought Okay, we're on our way to

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Speaker 3: be big and then just got clobbered.

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Speaker 4: Yo yo yo. We live on location Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 5: We came down south for some Southern hospitality and we

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Speaker 5: had to come pull up on one of the best

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Speaker 5: owners in all sports. We got the shark tank Man himself,

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Speaker 5: mister Mark Cuban in the building.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate, appreciate it my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: Where?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 1: What was it that made you want to be entrepreneur?

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Speaker 2: It made you want to get into business, made you

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Speaker 2: want to sell different things?

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Speaker 1: Was it a person? Was it a place or something?

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Speaker 3: Probably my dad, Like my dad did a poustry on cars,

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Speaker 3: Like if you had to rip in the car seat

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Speaker 3: of your car, you took it to my dad, the

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Speaker 3: old pitmobiles from the seventies and stuff. He made that

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Speaker 3: ship right that that's where he worked. And he always

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Speaker 3: used to bring me into his job and have me

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Speaker 3: some extra money they paid me like five bucks whatever,

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Speaker 3: because he wanted me to see the back breaking work

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Speaker 3: he had to do so that I came up with

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Speaker 3: something else. And when I was young, he was always

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know anything about business. I don't.

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Speaker 3: Didn't go to college neither. My parents went to college.

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Speaker 3: When I was young. They were like, you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to figure it all out, and so, you know, start

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Speaker 3: figuring it out, you know. So I started selling baseball cards.

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Speaker 3: I sold garbage bags. Door tos was about.

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Speaker 4: About the garbage bags.

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Speaker 5: So you did that at twelve, Well, to get a

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Speaker 5: pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: That's your first job ever. And what were the shoes?

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Speaker 4: Didn't bullets?

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Speaker 3: But no, they were converse, so it was between beta's

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Speaker 3: Beta bullets were big like long before your time, and converse,

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Speaker 3: so it was it was converse chuck on. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: Garbage.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's think about it. Man. You walk up

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Speaker 3: did you use garbage bags? And then I like, coul

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Speaker 3: Su'm a box of one hundred for six bucks. And

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Speaker 3: then I get my little wagon and I deliver them,

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Speaker 3: you know, and every time they need a garbage bags,

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Speaker 2: What made you like multiple business ideas? Multiple things? Because

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Speaker 2: a lot of people like, I'm gonna do business, and

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Speaker 2: that one idea I just gotta I gotta make that work.

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Speaker 1: What made you like.

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Speaker 2: No, I want this one, this one, this one, I

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Speaker 2: want ten different things.

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Speaker 3: I never you know, it was never like Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: was just part of the process. Like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: sold the garbage bags. Then I sold candy door to door.

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Speaker 3: I was one of those kids, right hey, you know

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Speaker 3: And I would literally sew magazines door to doors, sold

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Speaker 3: with kids selling candy when I was like sixteen, so

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Speaker 4: Tell me about that.

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Speaker 5: How did you get it to the point where you

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Speaker 5: started to hire other kids?

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Speaker 4: Like what was that like getting.

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Speaker 3: A Well, it wasn't me that convinced them. So like like,

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Speaker 3: once I learned how to sell like the garbage backs,

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Speaker 3: I was fucking fearless, right because no one who says

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Speaker 3: And so this guy would train me like on how

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Speaker 3: to deal with sales rejections, right, so it be like

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Speaker 3: i'd be some magazines. Dearius, if you tell your wife

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Speaker 3: be upset or she going to be proud of you?

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Speaker 3: And it was just like bam, bam bam. And once

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Speaker 3: I could sell him, right, And it's just like people

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Speaker 3: coming out of work and there I am hustling candy bars, right,

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Speaker 3: And once people realized I could sell, they were like, okay,

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Speaker 3: now you can drive. Why don't you take these kids

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Speaker 3: gave me confidence, Like because once you can sell, it's

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Speaker 3: like when you guys got started here, right, you guys

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Speaker 3: are ball players. You want to do this. But then

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Speaker 3: there's the business side of it, and the hardest part

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Speaker 3: is selling, right, having the confidence to say, okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is why we're good, and this is why you

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Speaker 3: should be a sponsor, and this is why you should

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Speaker 3: work with us. I had none of that, fear, none

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Speaker 3: of that, and so once you know, like that's my

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Speaker 3: big game shot, right, some you know, big shot Rob.

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Speaker 3: When it came down to just being able to close

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Speaker 3: the deal, I was fearless. And to this day, man,

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Speaker 3: y'all walk in anywhere, anytime, any place, and I'll sell

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Speaker 3: and I'll close.

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Speaker 1: So you like a yonicorn.

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Speaker 2: You didn't do it by the book, like how a

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Speaker 2: lot of other guys have a much experienced college experience

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Speaker 2: or went through these special schools or being part of

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Speaker 1: You kind of no.

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Speaker 3: I did stuff like I was part of junior achievement

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: What can I do more? How can I make some money?

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Speaker 3: You know? So my hustle was selling right, whatever it was,

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Speaker 3: I could sell it. Then it got bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 3: And then I went to Pitt for a year and

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Speaker 3: then transferred Indiana and went from there.

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Speaker 4: How were you able to not go for your senior

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Speaker 3: And I just dropped out. I just dropped that cause

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Speaker 3: like I wanted to take a business class, like I

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Speaker 3: was into it by that time. When I was sixteen,

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Speaker 3: I was like it was all me Like my dad

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Speaker 3: my parents were like whatever whatever you do, get we

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Speaker 3: don't understand. So I just went and applied to Pitt

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Speaker 3: and took these two classes at night when I was

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Speaker 3: I was at pitt right, and so instead of going

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Speaker 3: back for my senior year, and it was great, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I lived in a fraternity house to fight

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the best.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, pennsylvani Yes, sorry me and Joe Green. When I

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Speaker 2: think about Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, like, how was it, Like, I know,

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Speaker 2: you remember them Super Bowls back in the r but

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Speaker 2: how was it growing up in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 3: Like when I was little the Steelers raffel it was

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Speaker 3: so os Sam old Steelers, right, and then then Chucknell

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Speaker 3: Lyncewan Yeah, and it was Yeah, it was great. And

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Speaker 3: this and that. But the best part about all that

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Speaker 3: with the Steelers was at Indiana. I was friends with

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Speaker 3: guy from Indiana State named Tounch Hilkin. And tounchh Hilkin

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Speaker 3: And so I would go out with Jack Lambert and

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Speaker 3: But we go to this club and it was snow

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Speaker 3: and I'll never forget, right, And they're like, we're out

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Speaker 3: it because Little Field ex was nine like this, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but carrying enough. Oh what the fuck am I

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Speaker 3: So I had to get the toad truck and they

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Speaker 5: You had all of these different you know, you owned

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Speaker 5: the bar, you gat you disco lessons, chain letters, like

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Speaker 5: where while you in college? How did all these ideas come?

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Speaker 5: And then you like, how do you like that?

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Speaker 3: I needed to pay for school? Right? I had to

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Speaker 3: pay for my school, you know. And so you know,

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Speaker 3: my sophomore year, first semester of my sophomore year, I

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Speaker 3: it was like fifty bucks. So you sent fifty bucks

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Speaker 3: to the top of the list, and then put your

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Speaker 3: take that name you sent the money to off. And

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Speaker 3: so I made sure I sold it to as you know,

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Speaker 3: if there were eight names on the list, I made

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Speaker 3: sure I paid. I sold it to eight people, and

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Speaker 3: then I helped them sell it to another eight more,

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Speaker 3: because there would be like six envelopes with fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: sophomore first smestress my sophomore year. And then after that

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Speaker 3: It was just like, I'm like, dude, we're undefeated, right,

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Speaker 3: They sucked. They haven't been you know. It's like people

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Speaker 5: So you you paid too eighty five two hundred and

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Speaker 4: You didn't you didn't blinket that you didn't think anything.

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, Dell, I got this Yahoo stock that

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Speaker 5: it's like I just paid for everything just with that,

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Speaker 3: Every day, right, I would check it every day, and

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Speaker 3: just want to win. Yeah, Dallas hasn't won in forever,

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Speaker 5: When you bought the team, it was it was the

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Speaker 3: So everybody was like because the guys back then they

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Speaker 3: Whereas now there's a finance committee and they do a

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Speaker 4: What is it like for you being in the draft

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Speaker 1: Won a championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of the things we loved about Dallas too when

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Speaker 2: We ain't never seen this before. All this is new

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Speaker 3: Because I had to prove the people that we were

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Speaker 4: Then it was easy.

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Speaker 3: It was actually because nobody did it right.

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Speaker 4: That was the point.

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Speaker 3: and they would work you out. You guys come into

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00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 3: the gym and one of your three coaches would work

441
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 3: you out and whatever they're doing. And that's just the

442
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 3: way it always was at all levels.

443
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: Right.

444
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, we spend more money

445
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 3: on fixing computers than we do developing players. So I

446
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: went and started hiring former players, Moreland Wiley, just guys

447
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 3: that had played for US. I'm like, if you played

448
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: for us at all, I'm not going to pay you initially,

449
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: we want to see how this works. But I got

450
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 3: fifteen players, I need fifteen development coaches. So I brought

451
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 3: in all these people, right, and now that's what everybody does.

452
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: Then I started bringing interns, right, so those coaches can

453
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 3: work on development and not rebounding and stuff like that.

454
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: Now we got eight interns. All they do is rebound

455
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 3: and run plays and all this shit. So it's just

456
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 3: whatever I can do to get an edge. That's always

457
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 3: what it's been. But now the newer owners, like they're

458
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 3: hedge fund guys or guys with a lot of money.

459
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 3: They're like, not the old school guy, right, And so

460
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: it's a lot smarter. So it's not as easy as.

461
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Speaker 2: It was to have guys like Dirk and Finley when

462
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: you first bought the team to now you see these

463
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: guys with great hers and stuff now, But just to

464
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: see how they grew as men and like the people

465
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: they became and for sure, like how is it to

466
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 2: see like just specifically them too, Like well.

467
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Speaker 3: Like obviously, like what the biggest mistake I've ever made

468
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 3: with the Math is letting Nash go right? And I

469
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: always said to him afterwards, and he was not happy

470
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: with me. I was like, look, life's a long long time.

471
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: You know that the time you spend in the game

472
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: is just a fraction of what you're going to do

473
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. And and so we're back

474
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: to being friends. But you know it was fun because

475
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 3: between not just Nash and Dirk, but Finn as well.

476
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 3: I learned so much from that, so so much. You

477
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: know how to carry yourself and when fans are reacting

478
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: to you, and when fans get excited, you know how

479
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: to treat people. They were always you know, sign every autograph,

480
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 3: take every picture. You know, it's a blessing. You don't

481
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: know when it's going to end. And you know, I

482
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,959
Speaker 3: learned a lot from that, and that's the way they

483
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: are today. So I'll give them a lot of credit to.

484
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: Have no friendships with them, like yeah, you know you

485
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: know they family, Yeah for sure, for sure you didn't

486
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: been around them.

487
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Speaker 1: And it's like just seeing y'all. I can't.

488
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Speaker 2: When I think of you, I think of Finn, I

489
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: think of Nash, I think of Dirt.

490
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 3: That crew right there is like the crew.

491
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Speaker 2: And just to see them one of the things I

492
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: want to say too, man, Just to see how you

493
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: bring other players back, Guys that we see play for

494
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: the mass, whether they play one year or two year

495
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: or ten years, to see them and bring them back

496
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: and have them coach and have their be development.

497
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Speaker 1: You see these guys and because.

498
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Speaker 3: Everybody wants not everybody, A lot of people want to

499
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: get back in the game, right, because you go through

500
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: that and you guys know it better than anybody. You

501
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 3: play all right, you think you can play another year,

502
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: you don't get that next year right, or you get

503
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: hurt right, and then it's like what now?

504
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: Right?

505
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: Right? What am I going to do now? And they

506
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: mess around, They spend time with their families because they

507
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: hadn't been able to spend time with their families. Then

508
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: you want something to do, right, and basketball is your life.

509
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: And so you know, I won't say everybody, but pretty

510
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 3: much anybody who's with the MAVs. If I can help

511
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: you one way or the other, I'm gonna take that step.

512
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Speaker 5: I benefited from you trade and Steve, I want to

513
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 5: know one like, what.

514
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Speaker 4: Was Dirk's reaction?

515
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Speaker 3: Happy?

516
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Speaker 5: I know this, but I want to know just fromspect

517
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Speaker 5: how did that go when you had to come to

518
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: Dirk like okay, like we're not doing it.

519
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't match Steve, so it didn't go good.

520
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: We were actually in Mexico for a guy, Al Whitley,

521
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: who works for the MAVs. His wedding the wildest wedding

522
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 3: i've ever been, but there's not There's nothing even close

523
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: shut out out for real, and we were just plastered

524
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Speaker 3: and we're Dirk and I are just sitting there in

525
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Speaker 3: the lobby because they had kicked us out of the

526
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: room where the reception was because we were just tearing

527
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: it apart and it was crazy, and we're talking about it,

528
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: and he was like, how could you let Nashville and

529
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Speaker 3: I went through it, you know, you know, our coach

530
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: and the doctors were like, we don't know how much

531
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: longer he's going to last. His minutes were down and

532
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: this and that I made him a good offer. Sons

533
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: made him a better offer, and you know, it was

534
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: obviously a mistake on my end, but I think it

535
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: was great for Nashi right because I think it motivated

536
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Speaker 3: him and into a two times.

537
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Speaker 2: It's a gift that occurred. I feel it was great

538
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: for both of them because I made.

539
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Speaker 3: Dirt even better.

540
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And now he's one

541
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Speaker 2: of the greatest players ever. He ended it right and

542
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: got his ship.

543
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Speaker 5: I want to ask, do you remember the atmosphere when

544
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 5: we came there for the playoffs? Because I've told him

545
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 5: this first year like that was one of the Like,

546
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Speaker 5: that was the first time I felt like I'm teammates

547
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 5: with a rock star. Legit, like when the plane landed,

548
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 5: bro news cameras coming everything. This was I'm like, wait

549
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: a minute, were the visitors? This was the first time

550
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 5: I started calling Steve. I started calling Steve. I was like, okay,

551
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 5: you like the rock star slash the president, Like, first

552
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 5: of all, there is not a person who don't love you,

553
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 5: And it was like it was crazy.

554
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: It was a crazy game on in to the game, right,

555
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: because we had picked up Jason Terry to take Nash's place,

556
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: and Jason missed an assignment and now she hit a

557
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 3: game winner at game.

558
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 4: Time three and was yelling that it was insane.

559
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Speaker 3: It was brutal. And then you guys got us that year.

560
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: Then I think we got you guys next year.

561
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Speaker 2: How is it getting all the way to the Promised

562
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Speaker 2: Land and and and getting all the festivities, getting to

563
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: the finals and feeling like you have it in the

564
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: grass And it was awful. And you know that.

565
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 4: Was six, right, Yeah?

566
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Speaker 3: O six was horrible, right. O six was like the

567
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: worst because I thought we got cheated. I still to

568
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: this day we got cheated.

569
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Speaker 4: But for you, as a like you are you a Hooper?

570
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Speaker 5: You are you're a die hard fan and all that before,

571
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 5: like that ride for you getting there for the first time.

572
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 4: How magical.

573
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: Oh, the riode itself was amazing, right, because part of

574
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: it was Nashy too. Look look at what we're doing

575
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: right right back, yep. And it was unreal because we

576
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: were with Avery Johnson and he was only his second

577
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: year as a coach and the general you know, had

578
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: got us playing defense and playing a lot differently than before.

579
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: And I thought, and I'll never forget. We go up

580
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: two zero in Dallas, right, and I could just tell

581
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 3: by the look in Miami's faces they think they're done,

582
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: just done. And then we're in Miami and it's the

583
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: third quarter and we're up fourteen or so, and I'm

584
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: standing up behind the bench thinking we could sweep this

585
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: motherfucker's right, and then all of a sudden, you Donnas

586
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: Haslim steals the ball from somebody, right, and now it's twelve.

587
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: Then there's a play where Shaq just ran over Eric

588
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: Dampierre ran over them, and I'm like, okay, I'll fancy file.

589
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: We're back. We got the ball back, No habs, yeah,

590
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: hits it on, Damn Pierre and fucking Shack makes two

591
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: free throws and I'm thinking, oh god, when it matters, Yeah,

592
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: well he did that time, and so it went downhill

593
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: from there. That was brutal. I didn't leave the house

594
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: for a month or two months after that. I would

595
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: not show my face. It wasn't that I was embarrassed,

596
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: it was just the pain of it.

597
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Speaker 1: It hurts so much.

598
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Speaker 2: Like how was the two thousand and Levete when y'all

609
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610
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Speaker 2: on that team, like Tye and Tricks Well.

611
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Speaker 3: Tell you a crazy story, right, So twenty ten was

612
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 3: the Lebron James summer, right, because he had just the

613
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: the decision right and we knew we had no chance.

614
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: But everybody was like, we had an expiring We actually

615
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: had a non guaranteed contract with Eric Dampierre, and everybody

616
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: was hoping we could turn it and trade it to

617
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: Cleveland to get Lebron Lebron and there was just no chance.

618
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: But then there was a deal where Tyson Chandler was

619
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: supposed to get traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder. They

620
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 3: just moved from Seattle so they were the Thunder. And

621
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Speaker 3: the deal got shut down because the dog, Tyson, had

622
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: just had foot surgery and the doctor there who did

623
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: the surgery on Tyson and he can tell you more

624
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: of the details, said no, you know, we shouldn't take them.

625
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: So I was like, I called up Michael Jordan because

626
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: he had just had this deal because Tyson was on

627
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: the Hornets for as part of a deal. I forget

628
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: how we got there, but I called up Michael and

629
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, Michael, I've got this expiring contract. You

630
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: don't want to pay Tyson. You're going in a different direction, right,

631
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: you do this trade for me? And then we also

632
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: took Alex Agensa and so Michael was like, cool, you

633
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: know it doesn't fit in our plans. You know gets

634
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: us us some money and I'm like, okay, I'll take it.

635
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: So it was a win win. And had I not

636
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 3: had that deal not got busted up by OKC, we

637
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: never would have gotten Tyson. If we hadn't gotten Tyson.

638
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: It's a whole I mean that, that's the whole thing

639
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: about the NBA. Like two years later, three years later,

640
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: I remember sitting in Rob Polinka's office and we've got

641
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: Andrea Gudala on the phone and he's like, would you

642
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: want to sign Iggy? And I'm like, yeah, we you know,

643
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: I think it's going to work, but I got to

644
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: wait to hear from I think it was Dwight Howard right,

645
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: because that was our first choice. He goes, all I

646
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: need is twenty minutes, and I'm thinking to myself, there's

647
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: no way Golden State is getting off enough money to

648
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: sign Andrea Godala for whatever the number was not. Fifteen

649
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: minutes later, they trade Andre's beidrance to the Utah Jazz

650
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: and open up all this cap room, and Andrea Godala

651
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: goes to the Golden State Warriors instead of to us.

652
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: They don't see them behind the scenes.

653
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Always in this story after story after story.

654
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: Like that, getting back in you know, you had Shaq

655
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: and d Wave back then, but now you got back

656
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: to the finals and it's the half of the dream team.

657
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: It's Lebron and is Bosh is his way. The world

658
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: is against that himself for dubtas everybody thinks. Everybody think

659
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: this is four or five six for your team to

660
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: be in that finals.

661
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: And seeing how they played all together as.

662
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: A group, you know, from Sean Mary into dirt oh Man,

663
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: like you.

664
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Got to Sean Stevens said, like, I swear to guy,

665
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: if there's one guy I wanted to shoot against pregame

666
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: just to make money, I want to shoot against the

667
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: Sewan Stevenson, right, but in games, in games, he was

668
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: shooting forty percent throughout the playoffs, right when it counted.

669
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: D Steve was money, right, that tattoo and his neck

670
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: was talking right. But it was just like I remember

671
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: Game two, we had lost the first game. Game two,

672
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: We're down at halftime, I think it was, and I'm

673
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: walking through the tunnel to go back and pat Riley's

674
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: there and he says, I think we got you, Mark,

675
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 3: I think we got you. And I'm like, that's not

676
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: a cool thing to say.

677
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 6: Right, you know, earlier the way right, and like bam,

678
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 6: we come back that game, then come back next game,

679
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 6: come back again and win it in six and so

680
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 6: punking Miami in Miami and then going to live.

681
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: That's what I want to We won't hear about the list.

682
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: I've seen videos. I knew a few people that were

683
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 4: there and things like that. I want to hear it

684
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: was all true.

685
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: It was all true.

686
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: Man, How big was it in my house?

687
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: I still got not that one. I bought another one

688
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: just so I had it, just like yo, yeah no,

689
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: the best part was one hundred and forty thousand dollars.

690
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: So I'm like yeah. So I'm like, Dirk, do we

691
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: want to get this? He's like, we want to get

692
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: and so I go to the waitress. All right, we'll

693
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: take one. And so ten minutes, fifteen minutes go by,

694
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: Dirk's like, where's the champagne? Where's the champagne. I'm like,

695
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: let me check. All of a sudden, the lady comes up,

696
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: extracumid your card was declined. I'm like, what the fuck?

697
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: My card has declined? Yeah, So I'm like, you know how,

698
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: like you'll get a new credit card. You're supposed to

699
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: turn it on and everything, and so I guess they thought,

700
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: you know, turn it on and then all of a sudden,

701
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand dollars bottle of champagne. Something's up, right,

702
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: And so I had to go back in the back

703
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: office of Live with one of the managers and I'm like,

704
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: let me call Americans and I'm drunk as shit, right,

705
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: and let me call American Express and they're like, well,

706
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: how do we know this is mark you? How do

707
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: we know this is real? I'm like, did you watch

708
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: the game tonight? Let me just tell you don't. Just

709
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: turn on the TV and see what's going on because

710
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: we're in Miami, right, And so finally they approved it,

711
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: got my bottle and we were good.

712
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: That is insane.

713
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: It was fun.

714
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 5: I do want to go back to this though with

715
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: the finals. It was just fitting that it would be

716
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: like you get back and it's Miami again. It was

717
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: weird and for you, like, I want to know what

718
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: it was like the morning after, like you know what

719
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like after the crazy night it lived. You

720
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: probably knows hangos and stuff, but I can remember the

721
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: picture with the trophy, like just like that, and then

722
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: the parade like for you the super fan, you know,

723
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: the guys like one of the owners who really loves like,

724
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: you know, celebrating it, Like how was all of those

725
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: things you like, do you remember like getting for the

726
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: parade and it's like it's like you about to do it,

727
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 5: Like I watched this done and meantime, like how was

728
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 5: that for you? I just look at you, somebody who

729
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: that was.

730
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: Something always past moments for you?

731
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: I was, you know, like we flew home the next morning,

732
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: We got up early, flew home, and while we're circling

733
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: the airport in Dallas, they got the big fire hoses

734
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: and did the fire hose salute. Then there were you know,

735
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: a thousand or whatever people waiting for us when we

736
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: came off the plane to the tarmac. And then a

737
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: couple of days later we had to pray, and you know,

738
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't so much for me and the prey, but

739
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: I got to take my brothers, I got to take

740
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: their family, my kids, my dad, you know, and let

741
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: them be part of it. Because the you know, we

742
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: talked about all kinds of businesses in the world, but

743
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: you know, Google or Apple has their best year ever

744
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: and nobody throws a parade right, right, But when your

745
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: team is on fire, the whole city's on fire, right,

746
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: and when you win and.

747
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 5: Then and then you create like this was your you

748
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 5: built that. It wasn't mine, It wasn't mine, it was

749
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: it was like this. I mean, but I'm saying, like

750
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 5: you you from where you say, like well you were

751
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: sitting court side with seeing too, like.

752
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: From where we better Like you know what I'm saying,

753
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: like you had to take pride and like we we

754
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: achieved the title.

755
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: Like I carried that trophy everywhere.

756
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: And I remember Tricks having the party in his house,

757
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: seated on social media, and he got the trophy like

758
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: they like having a hard house party, barbecue.

759
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: I say, this man got the trophy.

760
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: Trick was like always can I take it? Here? Can

761
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: I take Yeah? And now I got one at arena.

762
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: We get two of them. You got one at the arena,

763
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: and I got one in my house and it's just

764
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: right in my office. And it's just every time when

765
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: I go go to work and sit down in my

766
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: office and there it is man, And you know, now

767
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: it's it's hard because it's been eleven years, right, so

768
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 3: it's like you know, it's like that girl you dated

769
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: eleven years ago that you were a sweet on and

770
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: just like, Okay, I gotta get that next.

771
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: One around walk down the streets.

772
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: You always been one of my favorite owners, if not

773
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: my favorite owner. Just the way you carry yourself, how

774
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: you always be, how you so approachable. You know most

775
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: owners are not approachable, but how you so approachable and

776
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: how you always be with your guys, you know, and

777
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: we always love that and respect that about you.

778
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: So thanks.

779
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: I think the biggest, the biggest compliment we could give

780
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: is like like you said, everybody's come through there, there's

781
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 5: nothing but glowing remarks about the treatment, the whole atmosphere

782
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: and how they.

783
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: Get to try. Not everybody, but yeah.

784
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: I mean the ones that we speak most of the ones.

785
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we tight with with Marquis Daniels.

786
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: Josh Josh Howard, those are my guys.

787
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: So these like you know, then finn Is like for real,

788
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: I g we grew up under him and Jesus our

789
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: o Gs and these dudes set the bar like you know,

790
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: all these dudes was like solid dudes, and everybody's extreame

791
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: the MAVs organization in their time here.

792
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: So you know that I appreciate that we try. I

793
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: mean it's hard and harder because you know, your generation,

794
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: it was still a little bit of the macho thing, right.

795
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: You still had like a little bit of the Charles

796
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: Oakley overlay, right, the badasses, you know, fight me or not.

797
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: But now you know, gen z, it is just a

798
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: different animal because they all grew up with social media. Right,

799
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 3: they're all brands. When they come in, y'all just wanted

800
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: to hoop right now, their brands and they got their

801
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: social media and they know what their good side is

802
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: and their bad side is. It's just a different beast

803
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: and it's hard to coach, hard to do. You know,

804
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say harder. It's just different, right, They're just

805
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: dudes are different. But I think it's good in a

806
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: lot of respects because they come in understanding the business

807
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: a little better because you know, you got nil so

808
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: if they went to college, they were making money in college,

809
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: they were making money off their social media. So they're

810
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: a lot more business literate, you know. Whereas your jen

811
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just like you get the wrong

812
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: wrong person helping you. You know, you don't know how

813
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: many guys just got fucked, right.

814
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just said this is the like era. You know, yeah,

815
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: they just like guys love. This is all we had.

816
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: I love right, Well it's the only way. But yeah,

817
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: you got you got a back.

818
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: I got so much stuff. I just like to do that.

819
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: No, but you know what, I don't know if I

820
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: some guys yes, right, But like Luca man, he's all

821
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: in right. He doesn't want to deal with all like

822
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: he's got the shoes and everything because he's into shoes.

823
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 4: He likes it too. He's the man.

824
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the man. But but you're talking about loving

825
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: to play. He comes to play. He's you know, he's

826
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: a linebacker. He's physic. You don'em back down from nobody.

827
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: He's smart, he's got a great basketball IQ. But he

828
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: just loves the game. If he could he played, he'd

829
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: hoop all day every day.

830
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: How was it to have Jake Kidd?

831
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: But it's great?

832
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: How much confidence and really stressed he relieved from you

833
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: to have your guy coach you know him, you want

834
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: a championship with him? It's like a different and your relationship.

835
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: No.

836
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Great.

837
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: We get along Ja KD and I've gotten along forever.

838
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

839
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: Right, we would talk all the time, whether he was

840
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: you know, Milwaukee or Brooklyn or Lakers, and he would

841
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: always say I'm ready, I'm ready, right when he wasn't working,

842
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm ready. And then just finally got to that point

843
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: after Rick left, it was like, okay, we're ready. And

844
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: what I did was, yeah, what I did was we

845
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: had a group of five including Dirk, and we're like, okay,

846
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: who should we consider for coaching. They're all Jake Kid,

847
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: Jake Kidd, Jake Kidd. I'm like, all right, I guess

848
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: I don't have to do nothing right, So we hired

849
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: ja Kid and it's only been you know, a year

850
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: and two or three months. He just did what he

851
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: did right. It made players understand their roles because, you know,

852
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: Patula as a new coach, getting guys to buy in

853
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: what they're supposed to do because everybody's trying to get

854
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 3: whatever it is, right, trying to get their minutes, their money, whatever.

855
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: J Kid just sat down and talked to him and

856
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: put together great coaching staff, Sweeney and Santy and all

857
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: those guys and now Jared and so there's great communication

858
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: and that's key, right, because that's how you get guys

859
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 3: to play hard for you. And then obviously Luca helps

860
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: to oh special special.

861
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: Tell me how excited you were when you saw that.

862
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: You were gonna have the chance to draft that kid,

863
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: and you still had dirt, like right at the end to.

864
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: Take him under his wing. And it was like the

865
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: whole cemetery.

866
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: Well, you know, guys, and Luke obviously you can't be

867
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: a euro guy and not look up the dirt on

868
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: some level, you know what I'm saying. So like all

869
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: of that with him having that huge respect for a

870
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: legend going out and being able to listen and learn

871
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: from him, it was just like a perfect school huge yeah,

872
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 5: and being from that like when he really.

873
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 7: Got here and you like, oh shit, you guys know, right,

874
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 7: somebody could get drafted, right, and everybody thinks the should

875
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 7: have been drafted higher, right, and somebody goes number one

876
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 7: and or two or three or four or five.

877
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: Whatever, and you just don't know. Yeah, you don't know

878
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: until you know, and then you know. Then when you know,

879
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: it's like, oh.

880
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, because like I remember watching I

881
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: was doing what I was doing, the bounce at Turner

882
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: doing that digit the show, and you know, we watching,

883
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm like this is what I'm like. I was fighting it.

884
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 5: I'm like I don't know. I gotta see. I don't know,

885
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna tell you this is what. This is

886
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: what I had. We sit in at the house one day.

887
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: I say, yo, I'm watching what's happening, and I know

888
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: us when I see us, I'm talking about brothers.

889
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: We won't know not brother coming through boogiying on us.

890
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wait a minute, Like these are consecutive games.

891
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: But like I'm seeing swag, I'm seeing staring, I'm seeing

892
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 5: like confidence, like I don't know back like I don't

893
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about and like when I see that

894
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: and I see that, somebody can't stop.

895
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: Okay, now, especially when he's slow. He's not you know,

896
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: he's athletic, but he's not super athletic. But he just

897
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: owns the floor. He knows how to use his body,

898
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: he knows how to use his brain. He don't back

899
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: down from anyone. Right, you can talk shit to him.

900
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: He don't care who it is. Right, you know, he's

901
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: come on, let's go. But I remember, like the first game,

902
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: preseason game we had him. We were in China playing

903
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: Philly and I was sitting with Sean Marriot and tricks

904
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: and he made some passes and I just looked at

905
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: tricks and tricks because I'm scared shitless, right, I am

906
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: just scared out of my mind because you know, I

907
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: had him. So we had a disagreement between the scouts

908
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: and our analytics group. The analytics group had him won

909
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: by a mile, right. The scouts were like, I don't know,

910
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: maybe it's eight and da da da da da, And

911
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, we got we're going for it, right,

912
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 3: so pull the trigger on the trade and boom.

913
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: Did him and Dirk know each other before?

914
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: No, not before, but once they got together.

915
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: Do you loved because I'll be saying now and they

916
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: show him now then when they interaction, Man, do you

917
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: love how their friendship and how they Yeah, that's a

918
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: beautiful thing to watch. You see him, he play with him.

919
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: He's like Jordan.

920
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 5: He liked.

921
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are brothers. They really really are. Sometimes a

922
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: little bit more like dad and son, but they're close.

923
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: And because you know, like we're saying, Dirk is just

924
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: a great guy and lucas a great guy. So there's

925
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: nothing not to like. It's not like, Okay, you know

926
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: he's from my part of the world. I'll help him out. Know,

927
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: they yuck it up. They definitely yuck it up. They're

928
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: good people together.

929
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: If you had to put a starting five of all

930
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: time maths, all time math, who would be your starting five?

931
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: Well starts with Luca and Dirk obviously, and that's my

932
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: one and my four or five.

933
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: You want to put Luke at the two and let

934
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: Jake Kid run the one or Nas run the one.

935
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: I think you got to you know you can, brother,

936
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: that's talk, right, because it's got to be between that,

937
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: you know what. I probably even put j Kid at

938
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: the three and Nash at the one, Luk at the two,

939
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: Dirk at the four, and what's his name not October

940
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: Roy Tarpley at the five.

941
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a day's game.

942
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: That'll be squad no ship right, Yeah, Jay Kids not

943
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: the shooter, but I mean he'll defan do everything else

944
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 3: and everybody else get yeah, oh yeah, he is right.

945
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Took a lot of them exactly what what pickup game

946
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: made you feel like you need to work on your JA.

947
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: The other day would lead through shooting.

948
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: That's a lot of.

949
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: Entity I need.

950
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: I need to get my jay right right.

951
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: Because I'll still play at Lifetime Fitness. I'll go up

952
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: there play afternoon or they play Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

953
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: If I'm in town, I'll go play, and you know,

954
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: get older, you go back a little further, and so

955
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: I had to I had to slow thing down, right,

956
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 3: because I would try to rush all my shots fundamentals, right, yeah, yeah,

957
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: So it was all form shooting, right, So it was

958
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: just like making sure I got under the ball so

959
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: I get some marks, so I can get some distance. Right,

960
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: So I would because I'm always like, I play with

961
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: guys that are third of my age, right, right, so

962
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm trying to you know, get it off and get

963
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: out and I'm bailing and everything. So I'm like, I

964
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: got to get some work in. So it was cool.

965
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: It's fun.

966
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you went to you went to MJ's fantasy camp, right.

967
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 5: I did tell me was that it was fun And

968
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: was you bust some other billionaires?

969
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Asses?

970
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: There was no other there was, Like it was kind

971
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: of crazy. But that was right before I had my

972
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: hips replaced and so I was not moving great. But

973
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: I still like once I realized there were guys because

974
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: it was thirty five and older and I was like

975
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: forty forty one, and so there was a guys who

976
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: were a couple of guys that were quicker than me

977
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: than I didn't expect. So I'm like, okay, I'll just

978
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: post them up and do my thing. But the best

979
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: part was you had NBA refs that first year, right, yeah,

980
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: and so I got to just funck with them. That

981
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: was great. The caches where coaches were great. Oh yeah, Williams, yeah,

982
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: j T Yeah, Mike Montgomery. It was fun. It was fun.

983
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: I was saying that we came to Vegas and we

984
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is we.

985
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 4: Can't do that.

986
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: It was fun. It was still did what was.

987
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: Some of the things that they had the real NBA

988
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: reps there? So what was that?

989
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: They were just cracking up? Right, they were cracking up,

990
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: and so I was like watch that. You know, they're

991
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: just giving me ship the whole time.

992
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 5: What I want to know is, like you legendary for

993
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: being fine by the commissioners and all that. I don't

994
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: know how much money, but when, where and how did

995
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: the idea come up for y'all to do the April Fools.

996
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: Frank, Oh my god.

997
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: It was our marketing guy that.

998
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: Was like hat.

999
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: And rest of peace. Matt Matt another guy who friend

1000
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: who died from a LS is just sad. But he

1001
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: came up to me and he goes, cute, all right,

1002
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: it's April Fool's Day. We're gonna do a joke where

1003
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: you fight a ref. I'm like, as long as you

1004
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: get the real refs to go along with it, I'm cool.

1005
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: He goes, we always checked it out. Let's go. I'm

1006
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: like cool. So they said first time out in the

1007
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: second quarter or whatever it was, and I'm like, I

1008
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: go to all the coaches, right, I'm like, Dell, this

1009
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 3: is a joke, right, this is not real, Like Nelly,

1010
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: this is a joke. It's not real to all the players.

1011
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Evan Eschmeyer, you keep an eye, right, And so I

1012
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: just remember he comes up and pushes me, and I'm

1013
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: trying to stay in it, right, and I could just

1014
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: hear the whole place go nuts, right, and then I

1015
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: push him back and give Hi a headlock or whatever,

1016
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: and I could just see the whole place going And

1017
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: then that's when Dell's eyes were like this, and then

1018
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: you know the time out was over. But it was

1019
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: every year, every year at April Fools. It's played all

1020
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: around the world, everywhere around the world.

1021
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: To this day.

1022
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: I love that it's hysterical. Who's the best basketball owner today?

1023
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: Jordan?

1024
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean MJ.

1025
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe I can bus this. Know, I'm

1026
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: not gonna bust that.

1027
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: J's you the second best?

1028
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Trying to think who else can play? I wouldn't be

1029
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: surprised at least just getting out there and shooting. But yeah,

1030
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't be the MJ. But yeah, I don't. I

1031
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: don't think any of the other ones even play anymore.

1032
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: You know, at least I get out there and still run.

1033
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Well, that means you hold the number two.

1034
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly, exactly, it's.

1035
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: Really number one because number one don't. Don't that's not fair.

1036
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: That's not ten years older. They don't bust on them.

1037
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: No, because I'm saying, like, even when we were growing up,

1038
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: it'll be like, you know who your favorite player, I

1039
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 5: mean outside of Mike who you You know what I'm saying,

1040
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 5: It was like that's already a giving, you know what

1041
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like that's a given, but.

1042
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 4: Like behind him Shark Tank.

1043
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shark Tank is one of my shows I haven't

1044
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: appreciated on my TV.

1045
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: They play the hell out of it.

1046
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they play it like I p on my TV.

1047
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: I just love it. And appreciate that and enjoyed the show.

1048
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: What made you when you first heard about the show?

1049
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: What made you feel like this was a great idea I.

1050
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: Has been going for you?

1051
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: And what's some of them investments that you just love

1052
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: that you participated in?

1053
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: Soaked on the show?

1054
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: They first asked me the first season and they made

1055
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: me audition right, and I was hungover as fuck. They

1056
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: just called me last minute and I had gone out

1057
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: with some of my friends and so I had to

1058
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: go up to Hollywood from Manham Beach and I was like,

1059
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: I thought I did good, but they were like, no,

1060
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: it's not gonna work this year. Then they got rid

1061
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: of one guy and they started bringing in guest sharks

1062
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: in season two and I'm like, this show ain't gonna

1063
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: make it right. It's a business show, but I'm gonna

1064
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: go on there and I'm just gonna tear it up.

1065
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: I don't care, right, I'm just gonna raise hell. And

1066
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: then that was season two, and all of a sudden,

1067
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: those numbers started going bam bam, bam, bam bam, and

1068
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, this is pretty cool. And then

1069
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you start realizing that kids, adults

1070
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: people are all walking up to us saying, this is

1071
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: how I learned about business, So this is motivating me

1072
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: to start a company. I'm like, okay, that's a good

1073
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: reason to do this. And you know, so that's why

1074
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: I do the show because now that we've been on

1075
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: this is our fourteenth season Friday nights on ABC. You

1076
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: know it is crazy, but now we have kids coming

1077
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: our not even kids that have been watching for ten

1078
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: twelve years, and they started a business because they've been

1079
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: watching Shark Tank, and so that that's why I do

1080
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: the show, and that really feels the best. But out

1081
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: in terms of the businesses, probably twenty five percent of

1082
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: been okay, done really good, twenty five percent of been trash,

1083
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: and fifty percent are decent to good. And on a

1084
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: cash basis, I'm probably down a little bit, like meaning

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00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: how much money I've taken off, But in terms of

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00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: the companies where you reinvest the money and watch the

1087
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: valuations go up, I'm doing really good. Like we just

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00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: had a company, Beatbox Beverages, that I bought a third

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00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: of it for a million dollars and I don't own

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00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: quite that much anymore, but they just raise money at

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00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: one hundred ninety million dollar valuation and I own like

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Speaker 3: twenty percent of it, and so you know, just shit

1093
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: like that. There's been some really good ones, dude, wives.

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00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, there's all kinds of great deals that I've

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00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: come out of.

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00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: There to be up there with like fellow billionaires and

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00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: like your co hosts and stuff. For y'all to have

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00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: them conversations, spend something that time that y'all have to

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00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: spend to make them fourteen seasons? How is that for

1100
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: you to be around them? That makes family?

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00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: Right?

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00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: Yell at them fourteen seasons?

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00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 3: And we're competitive, right because I'm like, I don't want

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00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: them to get a deal. If I want it, you

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00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: better believe I'm going to get There's some Laurial get

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00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: because she knows how to sell crap on QVC and all,

1107
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: and she's good. I give her credit. But other than Lauria,

1108
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: every now and then, if I want it, I'll get it.

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00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: But we're still really competitive, really really competitive.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I got a pitch for you.

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00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: What time is it?

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Speaker 4: The pitch Man.

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: Award winning basketball podcasts. This podcast has interview legends, Hall

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00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: of famers, all time grades in the best league known

1115
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: to man have millions of views worldwide close to ten

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00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: million subscribers. Wow, two of the most respected on and

1117
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: off the court, coming from an error where we connect

1118
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: with the youth and we respect the ones that came who.

1119
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Speaker 3: Y'all talking about.

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Speaker 2: And currently right now, to add to that resume, we

1121
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: are interviewing one of sport's best owners that's in our

1122
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: first billionaire, Mark Cuban.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think?

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00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm all in right, I'll give you hundred dollars

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: for twenty percent. Let's go. Congrats, say you know what,

1126
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: Congrats for you guys making it what it is because

1127
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: it's not easy, man. You know, like there's a billion podcasts,

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00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: you know, and they come and they go, and nobody

1129
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: ever thinks that my podcast is going to suck, right.

1130
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 3: All that matters is when you get people to listen

1131
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: and people to respond, and then that leads to you

1132
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: getting good Guess like, I'm not going to not do

1133
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: the knuckleheads. Anybody connected to the NBA knows you got

1134
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: to do the knuckleheads, right, And so that takes a lot, right,

1135
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: because I've been on podcasts where big names, right, they're

1136
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: gone because it's a lot of work. It is a

1137
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: lot of fucking work to do what you guys do.

1138
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: So you guys, i'd be giving you the class.

1139
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: We definitely appreciate it. I just created this app and

1140
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: we just got passed by Google to be and all

1141
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: the platforms, to be on every platform, And I just

1142
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: want you to speak about tech, how tech is changing

1143
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: the world, how sure, how tech new people and more

1144
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: and more new people is getting more into tech, and

1145
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: how it's affecting the world, and how it's changing in

1146
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: a good way.

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00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's definitely changing it, right because now

1148
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, all the dinosaurs that don't get it are dying, right,

1149
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: and every kid grows up. You know, my thirteen year

1150
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: old son, you know what he wanted for his birthday

1151
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: was snapchat, right. You know, It's like there's nobody that,

1152
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: truly if you're young, that doesn't use technology. And on

1153
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: one hand, people say, like TikTok is addictive, but the

1154
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: reality is I think it's it's a positive, Like it's weird.

1155
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: Like I was talking to my son about shark that

1156
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: actually he came up to me and asked me a question.

1157
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: He was like, Dad, how come you don't do royalty

1158
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: deals on shark Tank? And I said, well, because when

1159
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: you pay a royalty, it uses a part of your

1160
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: gross margin dollars. Do you know what gross margin dollars is?

1161
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, that's the difference between what you

1162
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: sell it for and what you paid for the product.

1163
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: That's your gross march. And I'm like he was like

1164
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: nine years old, ten years old. I'm like, how did

1165
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: you learn that? He goes TikTok? And then I started

1166
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: asking other questions, how'd you learn that TikTok?

1167
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: Right?

1168
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: So I had to change my attitude like I was

1169
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: always I grew up, got to read, gotta read, gotta read,

1170
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: gotta read the book. Yeah, get to the books, which

1171
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: is good and still but man, there's kids are smart

1172
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: because they have access to everything in Yeah. And now

1173
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 3: with artificial intelligence, the good news is it finds you. Yeah,

1174
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: you know. So it's not like if it sees that

1175
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: you're paying attention to business videos on TikTok or YouTube,

1176
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: they'll send you more of them. Now, if you get

1177
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: into some dark shit, that it's bad, right, But most

1178
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: people aren't like that. Most people it's a positive. So

1179
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: you know that artificial intelligence the game came always changes,

1180
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: right Versus you know when I first came into the NBA,

1181
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: there was no cell phones. There wasn't a lot of stuff,

1182
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: I mean broadband, you didn't have fast internet. It was

1183
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass. Now you got all that

1184
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: and then some But it don't slow down, it just

1185
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 3: keeps on going. So what's your app? What kind of app?

1186
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: I have an event app. It's called Impressive Events. We

1187
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: just dropped like two weeks ago. We just got okay

1188
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: by Google. So now it's on all platforms from Apple

1189
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: to you know.

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00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: There you go very cool, so impressively.

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00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Then we got a couple of meets next week.

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: Big luck.

1193
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to right right, but yeah, but it's

1194
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: like when you know, what I found is if two

1195
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: things right, two missions in any company, can you reduce

1196
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: the stress of the people involved, and can you make

1197
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: their lives better easier? If you make things easier and

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00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 3: less stressful.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm so excitful this.

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: I feel like we're going to help a lot of

1201
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: people change the algorithm that's going on.

1202
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: From mouth man you web gyms.

1203
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hype one one company if you don't mind.

1204
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: I just started a company called cost plus Drugs dot com.

1205
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: And so if you're by right now, we're Generics until

1206
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: tomorrow we'll have brand name drugs. But if you use

1207
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: any medications at all, go to costplus Drugs dot Com.

1208
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: Put it in there and if we if we sell it,

1209
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: it's going to be cheaper, it's going to be a

1210
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: lot cheaper. So we're you know, too many people have

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Speaker 3: to choose between their rent, their food, and their medications. Yeah,

1212
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: and so that's the whole point. So we make it

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: a lot cheaper. And you know, we just launched nine

1214
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 3: months ago and we already have more than a million accounts.

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00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: What made this something that that was important to you

1216
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: to make sure you have something?

1217
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: Because I saw how fucked up that industry is. Right,

1218
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 3: you know, nobody trusts the drug industry. And when there's

1219
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 3: an industry where people don't trust it, to me, that's

1220
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: an opportunity, right, And so I started working with a partner,

1221
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: alex Oshmayanski, doctor alex Osmayanski, and we just started finding

1222
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: ways to work outside the system so that we can

1223
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: go right to manufacturers and buy the drugs. And then

1224
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: at cost plus Drugs, you put in the name and

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00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: you see not only what we sell it for, but

1226
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: you see what we pay it, pay for it right,

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00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: So you see what we pay for it. We mark

1228
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: it up fifteen percent. We charge a three to actually

1229
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: eight dollars shipping and handling fee and that's it. And

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00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 3: so shit's a lot cheaper. And you know, because people

1231
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: don't trust where they buy their meds from, and so

1232
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: we're changing that game. And so it's really it's revolutionary.

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00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: So check out costplus Drugs dot com. I promise you

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00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: will save you get at them.

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Speaker 5: That's a wrap, man. We definitely appreciate it. Man, were

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00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 5: down here in Dallas and we came live on location

1237
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 5: with the Shark tank Man himself, mister Mark Cuban Man.

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00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: We appreciate absolutely, guys, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 5: I want to thank you all for your continued supporter

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