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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer with us. Now we've

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Speaker 3: Well? You know what the highlight of my weekend was, though,

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Speaker 2: Pete, He's an emotional man. That's okay. That's a sign

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Speaker 3: What are you trying to say? I can't even eat

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Speaker 3: No, it's somebody to watch that. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley has turned us into Texas Tech. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're Texas Tech. How oh spread it around, go out

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make you soft or weak or anything else.

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Speaker 1: I think Pete leads that crowd. Sometimes he's after it.

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Speaker 2: So you don't get when something's really important to somebody,

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Speaker 2: Have you never gotten so mad that you've teared up?

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Speaker 2: I've been so livid and so mad and so emotional

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Speaker 1: And this is coming from somebody whose kids.

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Speaker 3: Make fun of me because I've never cried a good example.

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Speaker 3: But silly you, I give you. I would have cried

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt mine. I cried.

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Speaker 2: I cried every time I practiced it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I would have. I would have balled my eyes

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Speaker 2: And when I.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you handled it. You were I know you,

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Speaker 3: I know you were emotional, but you didn't cry. But

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Speaker 3: that's just it. Those moments I cry moments if I

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Speaker 1: I get that.

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Speaker 2: But Pete, here's what you don't understand. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm literally not taking a shot at you. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I get it me too. However, that same feeling you

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Speaker 1: It's so important to you.

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Speaker 2: The game of football is so important. You're such a competitor.

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Speaker 2: You want to win so bad for yourself, for your teammates,

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Speaker 3: But I like even as a kid, like when I

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, how about you just recognize everyone's different.

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Speaker 1: You know what we're doing. You just said it.

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Speaker 3: Criticize it for doing it doesn't fit.

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Speaker 1: In If would you would you?

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Speaker 2: I guess my problem with this all we can end it.

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Speaker 1: Because no one please to move on Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars this week they're not gonna win. The Jaguars are

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Speaker 2: where it's coming. But my whole point is just because

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Speaker 2: Because what if someone watched you get up and start

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Speaker 2: is And it's gonna quote unquote you said, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: We criticize these kids for leaving early and not being

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry for everyone listening. Yeah, this is our

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Speaker 2: all seriousness. That bothers me, not just because it's my warner,

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Speaker 2: it's Kab Williams. I will take it to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am so tired of people like criticizing players because

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait a.

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Speaker 2: Second, these are the same guys you criticize that don't

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Speaker 2: it for the money, Like you don't get it both.

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Speaker 1: Ways, So pick that I would agree with one. You

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's go on, let's go let's move On's

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars were off on Sunday. Obviously you can tell

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Speaker 1: by the last fifteen minutes of this program. But the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars did do some business at the trade dead line.

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Speaker 1: They run in Ezra Cleveland, guard from the Vikings, and

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, the Jaguars head coach, asked about it today

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Speaker 4: You know, definitely a lot of different scenarios out there.

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Speaker 5: You look at you look at pass rushers, you know,

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Speaker 5: obviously Ezra uh is somebody that can come in and

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Speaker 4: So the plan is for him to start off as

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, Walker Little is the left guard. There's

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Speaker 5: no I don't want to I want to be as

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Speaker 4: Walker is the left guard. That's been communicated to everybody,

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Speaker 1: So you have it from the head coach earlier today.

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Speaker 1: but cleveland In. I think he's got one year left

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Speaker 3: So this is the last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically what I think this is they brought

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Speaker 3: when you make the stretch run. That's what this is.

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Speaker 3: because you could bring him back on a deal far

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Speaker 2: I would add one more. I think I agree with

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Speaker 1: There's something wrong with.

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Speaker 3: Right? That's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: Too interesting, But hearing Doug say that clarifies it.

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Speaker 2: Whether they brought him in because of there was some

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Speaker 2: I like it how Doug's talking about it. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: and you can never have And Pete and I talk

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Speaker 3: In this era. Now with the way those pass rushers

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Speaker 2: I mean you could just when they're they're valuable. And

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. If you notice, I think

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Speaker 2: When you think about a trade, what do you say,

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Speaker 2: O line, pass rusher, corner, corner, stop the quarterback. Protect

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Speaker 1: Oh of course, sorry, of course it's always left tack,

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Speaker 2: But the one thing, Pete, I'll add, does this get

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Speaker 2: they do with Calvin Ridley. I mean, these are all

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Speaker 2: And this is a team that is in first place,

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Speaker 2: I'd add, Bete, could it be a scenario where Sheriff

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Speaker 2: you can put Ezra at right guard, or put Walker

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Speaker 3: Guard or or both. You know, you're talking about clearing

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Speaker 2: Well, you got Cooper Hodges who they liked in camp.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, and you've draft another one at some point

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Speaker 2: And by no means am I saying there? I mean

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Speaker 3: So they've thought about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but you know, I would say the

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Speaker 1: They're trying to win football.

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Speaker 3: And I even remember during the summer when I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And so Doug's thinking and I loved his explanations, like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: We got to run the ball, and we got to

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Speaker 1: And would they give up a fifth rounder yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Pete.

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Speaker 3: But the real good news about it is Walker Little's healthy.

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Speaker 3: Now he's going to play.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's the news.

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Speaker 3: Get to see that offensive line play together. You haven't

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Speaker 1: They weren't as positive that, at least Doug Peterson didn't

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Speaker 1: That's not ideal, that's a big problem.

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Speaker 3: That's that's amazing because he is the speed on the air,

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Speaker 3: he's the go speed, you know, the guy that can

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Speaker 3: win consistently outside and that what do you do if

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Speaker 3: he's not there? That's I mean, if you go, if

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Speaker 3: you go into the rest of the season without him

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Speaker 3: in that lineup, what are you doing? Because Agnew is

447
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Speaker 3: more of a gimmick guy. I'm sorry, that's what he is.

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Speaker 3: So where do you go?

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Speaker 1: What do you do a bunch of two tight end

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Speaker 1: stuff jones, different things like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you may you do?

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question. I mean, you got to

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Speaker 2: try to get Agnew because he's fast, and get some

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Speaker 2: packages for him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, they could throw one of the forty

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Speaker 3: five bubble screens. They throw it, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I think when I say you gotta see what

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Speaker 2: can he do? Pete down the field? Is my point? No,

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Speaker 2: I know because I don't. I don't even want to

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Speaker 2: engage you on that topic because I know you're, you know,

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Speaker 2: being a pain and that we're in So I try

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Speaker 2: to get him involved outside of that. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram is having a great year. You gotta just

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Speaker 2: lean on Ingram, Kirk and and uh Ridley and sprinkle in.

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Speaker 3: You know, Strange has to start getting involved.

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Speaker 2: Well, you go too tight, so you have strange because

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Speaker 2: you know, you can put Evan in the slot if

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Speaker 2: you need to. Then as far as your third receiver,

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Speaker 2: you just got to roll in agnw Tim Jones.

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Speaker 3: It hurts though, it's no, it's a big hit to

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Speaker 3: that offensive. He's not around.

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Speaker 2: It's not great, no doubt about it. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I guess my point is there's not a you know,

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Speaker 2: snap of the fingers, like here's the solution, because.

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Speaker 1: He was so good in the red zone too, like

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Speaker 1: you know, the boundary, all that kind of stuff. Body controls.

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Speaker 1: What's the big uh, Seth Williams practice squad. He's the

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Speaker 1: one who's been coming up, up and down right. Elijah

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Speaker 1: Cooksa come there. Yeah, there's those guys.

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Speaker 2: Numbers as fourteen. Yeah, he moved fourteen. That's why I

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Speaker 2: couldn't fin So Elijah Cooks. Maybe he's a big guy.

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Speaker 2: I meant, it's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean Jacob Harris another.

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Speaker 3: Let's pretty I think I think Doug's good enough to

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Speaker 3: scheme around it. I do for a while, but eventually

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Speaker 3: that shows up.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's put it this way, Pete, there's no one

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Speaker 2: in this roster who can replace what Zay does, like

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Speaker 2: Mike Jones. I mean Mike Jones. Tim Jones can come

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Speaker 2: in and is a good blocker zas because he's a

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Speaker 2: great blocker. But now you've got a fare out who

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Speaker 2: can come in and run those deep over routes, who

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Speaker 2: can stretch the field, who I'm big third downs, sit

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Speaker 2: down in the zone and find it over the middle

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Speaker 2: of the field.

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Speaker 1: Physical, tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, have they said what's wrong with the knee?

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Speaker 2: I have not heard. It's been very quiet. And that

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Speaker 2: actually worries me more than anything, is how vague Doug

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Speaker 2: is and how vague they are really what's going on,

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Speaker 2: because it almost.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like he's headed. It almost sounds like he's headed

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Speaker 3: I are.

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Speaker 2: That's what I worry about, Pete.

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Speaker 3: And you're talking about a stretch of games where you're

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Speaker 3: gonna need him, yep. I mean you what do you

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Speaker 3: have the forty nine ers have that defense hadn't played

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Speaker 3: as well. You have the Ravens coming up, they're a

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Speaker 3: number one defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: You got Houston who's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a tough stretch and so you'd love

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Speaker 3: to have his a Jones on the field, and if

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Speaker 3: he's not there, you know, changes the dynamic of the offense.

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Speaker 3: I think, and it's gonna get it's gonna put more

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Speaker 3: on them to scheme things up. It's not like you

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Speaker 3: just move Kirk outside and say you go do it

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Speaker 3: and you put somebody in that slot. Because I think

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Speaker 3: that weekend in the middle where Kirk operates.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how much you could put it Evan Ingram outside. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they did so that last year. Well, they did

522
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Speaker 2: some of it. They did some of it last week.

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Speaker 2: It's Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they could put me out there when they

525
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Speaker 3: run the bubble screens. I can run those things.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's enough. We're back in the moment.

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Speaker 3: That's what they do. They run a bunch of them.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. That's what bothers me about

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Speaker 3: Zay not being there is I do think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: start taking the shots down the field now that you

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Speaker 3: solidify the interior of that offensive line. I think those

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Speaker 3: were coming. I think we're gonna see more aggression down

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Speaker 3: the field.

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Speaker 1: Shaking your head, this is one of those days with Pete.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's factual.

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Speaker 3: Am I saying anything that's not factual?

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Speaker 2: No, let's go over this. He killed the college kids

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Speaker 2: for crying after the game. Right, basically question his toughness. Ye,

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Speaker 2: yeah you did, Yeah you did absolutely, Okay, question is toughness.

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Speaker 2: He has now said seventy seven times on the show.

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Speaker 2: All they do is run bubble screens. I can run

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Speaker 2: a bubble screen. I could do the bubble screen. I

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Speaker 2: could do the bubble screen. I could. I mean literally,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a counter of how many times Pete says.

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Speaker 3: That you're laughing when I say it?

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Speaker 1: So you agree with no. I was not laughing, Pete.

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Speaker 2: I was shaking my head.

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Speaker 1: I was shaking my head. JP.

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Speaker 3: I've spent thirty five years reading you, and I know

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Speaker 3: when you agree with jo out.

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Speaker 1: Now you're a psychiatrist too. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: He's a mind reader.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: And JP wasn't even laughing. JP wasn't even laughing with you.

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Speaker 2: He was laughing at you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the fight his dad probably told him to.

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Speaker 3: But you, on the other hand, I read you.

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Speaker 1: We're back in a moment, do we have to? Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll see if we make it out of this. Bro

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Speaker 1: get a power outage again. I don't know. We're back

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Speaker 1: in a moment plenty ahead. Uh we'll hear from Travis

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Speaker 1: etn Jaguars running back. Coming up, we'll hear from Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd plenty ahead on this program on this Monday,

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Speaker 6: To having this success right now is to you know,

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Speaker 6: be know why I'm having success and focused on that.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like we all want to focus on

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Speaker 6: an end goal and go d.

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Speaker 1: Goal, But it's the process.

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Speaker 3: It's the front part.

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Speaker 6: It's to know what you're doing throughout the week to

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Speaker 6: find a way to be successful on Sunday. That's the

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Speaker 6: part that I want to chase. That's that's the part

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Speaker 6: that I'm happy about. So if I continue to do

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Speaker 6: that individually, you know the outcome is going to be

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Speaker 6: the outcoached and like I said, man, not just get

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Speaker 6: too high. I've been on this team when we haven't

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Speaker 6: we won one game ability.

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Speaker 1: When we won three games.

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Speaker 6: So right now it's we're halfway through and I've been

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Speaker 6: on a team where we lost five and then won

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Speaker 6: the rest. So it's like we're at a position to

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Speaker 6: where we can we are successful, but if we don't

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Speaker 6: come in with the same mentality, we can lose the

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Speaker 6: rest of the games, and that's something that we don't

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Speaker 6: want to do. It goes back to leadership, to myself,

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Speaker 6: goes back to Puyeg, goes back to Roy, goes back

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Speaker 6: to Case, it goes It's just a trickle ray. It's

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Speaker 6: tricken Doun effect on how well can we handle this?

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker. We'll find out in the

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Speaker 1: next couple months if the Jaguars can handle this. And

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Speaker 1: it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick with the Hall of Famer Tony Basselli in the

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Speaker 1: middle of Electric Center in the Hot Day Studios Pete

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Speaker 1: Prisco is down in South Florida. The Jaguars are six

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Speaker 1: and two, they've won five straight. They're coming off the

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Speaker 1: bye week. The San Francisco forty nine ers come to town.

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Speaker 1: It's a one o'clock kickoff at EverBank Stadium. This Jaguars defense,

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Speaker 1: led by Josh Allen nine sacks this year and all

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Speaker 1: over the place with quarterback Hits, impacting things week after

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Speaker 1: week on defense this year starts there.

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Speaker 2: He's been great.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's been a game wrecker.

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Speaker 1: He yes, he has pete he has been He's been.

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Speaker 3: A game wrecker. Kudos to him.

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Speaker 2: When are we doing our halfway MVP? Is that second?

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Speaker 3: We can do that?

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Speaker 1: The second out? Okay, yeah, coming up and just you know,

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Speaker 1: probably about fifteen minutes. Might be a little sneak peak.

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Speaker 1: Who mine might be? Oh really maybe?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's down to the two guys. But Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: he's been great rushing the passer, especially the last four

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Speaker 2: or five games. I mean, on this wind streak, he's

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Speaker 2: been outstanding. He uh, you know, he got hurt in

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Speaker 2: that Houston game.

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Speaker 1: Hurt is.

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Speaker 2: I believe his right shoulder forced him to go to

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Speaker 2: right end, and he's been at his best the last

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Speaker 2: five games from right end. Interesting he uh. But it's

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Speaker 2: not just against the pass that he's played great. It's

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Speaker 2: he's an every down player. Yes, I mean, he plays

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Speaker 2: the run great. He's physical, sets the edge disrupts plays,

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Speaker 2: hits the quarterback, flushes the quarterback, sacks quarterback. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's I mean, basically, he is being who we were

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Speaker 2: hoping and asking him to be. Yes all off season,

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Speaker 2: the talk was where's the past rush gonna come from?

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Speaker 2: I know, some idiot said they were gonna get him

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Speaker 2: and Trayvon Walker. We're gonna get twenty three to twenty

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Speaker 2: five sacks. I'm not sure who that was.

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Speaker 1: You you know what, you know what creeping up You

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Speaker 1: might get that they're creeping up there? Pete. Where are

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Speaker 1: they at twelve and a half right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Games? Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Said if they got if we got the twenty five, Tony,

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Speaker 3: they were gonna be in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You said they're gonna be in the super Bowl no

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Speaker 2: matter what, and I'm hoping you're right.

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Speaker 3: But you said they would be there if they got

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Speaker 3: the twenty five.

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Speaker 1: They're twelve and a half half way home.

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Speaker 2: You know the interesting thing about the past rush?

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Speaker 1: How many sacks.

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Speaker 2: Does the interior of the Jaguars defensive line have after

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Speaker 2: eight games?

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Speaker 1: Don't look, JP, I've got it right here, look close it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one Okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Say one, Pete, how many to the interior of the

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Speaker 2: Jags offensive defense, defensive line. How many sacks do they have?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of who had one? Do they

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Speaker 3: have none?

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Speaker 1: It would be point five one half of sack. Roy

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Speaker 1: Robertson Harris he had a half sack in Week six. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's disappointing.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Caleb and Chase on as two. Duan Smoot has won,

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Speaker 1: but he got it from the end correct position, correct,

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Speaker 1: So we have that is sixteen sacks over five players.

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Speaker 3: The amazing thing is that sixteen sacks has turned into

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Speaker 3: leading the league in takeaways.

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Speaker 2: That's the amazing Well, in sixteen sacks, just to extrapolate

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Speaker 2: that over seventeen games, it's not hard to do the math.

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Speaker 2: That's only thirty four sacks. We had what thirty eight

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Speaker 2: last year, So we're on pace to have less sacks

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Speaker 2: than we did last year, but the defense is playing

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Speaker 2: much better.

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Speaker 3: Take it in well the raven The Ravens I think

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Speaker 3: have thirty five already.

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Speaker 1: Wow, gosh, how many they have yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Four?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's.

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Speaker 3: A good But that's that's why when we sit here

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Speaker 3: and we talk about pass rush, it's not a it's

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Speaker 3: a it's an okay pass rush from Josh Allen's it's

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Speaker 3: a great pass rush from Josh Allen. Standpoint from everybody else.

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Speaker 3: It's just not not happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where do they I mean, I wonder where in

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Speaker 2: JPU have this? I know? Oh yeah, where do they

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Speaker 2: rank in amongst the rest of the NFL on team

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Speaker 2: sacks total?

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Speaker 1: In sacks, let's go defense NFL sacks The Jaguars. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens number one at thirty five. The Jacksonville Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: thirtieth with sixteen. Only the Giants and Bears have fewer.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a couple of teams that now have played

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Speaker 2: one more game than us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it works.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, Pete, we're not average. We're at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the barrel.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying Josh Allen's been fantastic rushing the past,

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Speaker 3: so the rest of the guys have been below average

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Jaguars. Jaguars are tied for second in the league

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Speaker 1: and passes defense.

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Speaker 2: The secondary has been playing outstanding.

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Speaker 3: Which was which was a little surprising when he mentioned

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Speaker 3: defensive back.

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Speaker 2: I I can actually, I actually can I actually have

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Speaker 2: three guys who are up for my defensive MVP when

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Speaker 2: when I think about it, Uh, you mentioned the the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and I don't know how many sacks this individual has.

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Speaker 2: But if you've watched the tape, and Pete, I know

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Speaker 2: you've watched.

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Speaker 3: More than I know, I know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 2: Clowney is like he's a problem. He's really disruptive. You

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Speaker 2: want to guess how many he has?

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Speaker 1: I have probably not five?

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Speaker 3: Or think doesn't he jp.

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Speaker 1: He's three and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's been a big he's been just from

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Speaker 3: Tony's right. You watch that tape. He's disruptive as hell.

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Speaker 1: Eleven quarterback hits. Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And now I'm gonna give a guy that I think,

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Speaker 3: Chuck Smith a lot of credit. Tony, he's there, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's their pass rush coach. Now. Yeah, Yeah, he's a guy.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he's a guy that had nothing but

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Speaker 3: great respect for you.

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Speaker 2: In the whole Hall of Fame we battled each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chuck is now their defense. You know, he

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Speaker 3: had that camp and that clinic that he worked on

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Speaker 3: for years and and kind of help guys. Now, he's

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Speaker 3: a defensive line coach, and you're getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: guys who aren't great. But van Ney is on that

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Speaker 3: defensive line rushing the patch. They picked him up off

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Speaker 3: the scrap.

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Speaker 2: Heap and I watched him and he's rushing the pass

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Speaker 2: like a maniac. I'm like, where did this come from?

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Speaker 3: He's got fives that that's It's an amazing defense right

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Speaker 3: now because they're think about this. They're giving up thirteen

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Speaker 3: point eight points per game. They have thirty five sacks.

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Speaker 3: The two thousand Ravens, who are arguably the greatest defense

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Speaker 3: of all time, gave up I think ten and a

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Speaker 3: half points per game and they didn't have come close

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Speaker 3: to having that number of sacks. And now was a

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Speaker 3: different error. The passing game wasn't as prevalent as is now.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, this defense is playing out of its mind.

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Speaker 3: That's where the difference is. You get thirty five sacks,

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Speaker 3: you have sixteen. That's a major drop off in terms

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Speaker 3: of knocking the quarterback down.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen different guys on the Ravens have at least one

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Speaker 1: sack this season.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that just also speaks I mean, this also

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Speaker 2: speaks to the challenge this team has down the stretch, tough, tough,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of tough opponents, one of them being the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday night, you talking about a great game. You know,

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Speaker 2: let's hope everyone stays healthy on both sides and they're

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Speaker 2: you know, hopefully both are in first place.

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Speaker 3: And then by the way, but real quick, you mentioned

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Speaker 3: interior pressure. Mattabuke On on the Ravens. I think he's

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Speaker 3: got seven and a half, doesn't need JP.

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Speaker 1: I think he has seven and a half. Pete well

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Speaker 1: Don quarterback hits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there I watched. I've

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Speaker 1: seen a little bit of them, like Holy Cow and

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Speaker 1: the one because he's not traditionally been a great pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: We've alwaysaid. I always thought he was a disruptive player.

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Speaker 2: But Clowney is.

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Speaker 3: But van Noy was on the street.

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Speaker 1: Both those guys are clowney.

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Speaker 2: Both those guys are balling right now.

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Speaker 1: Is that part of the just the system they're in

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Speaker 1: up there though, they can just kind of roll right

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Speaker 1: into that group.

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Speaker 2: Because coach, I think they have a good defense coordinator.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't know this, but Chuck Smith, you know,

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Speaker 2: is a good I don't know if he's a good coach.

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Speaker 2: I mean could. I mean he was a really good player,

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player, could rush the passer. The dude knew

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Speaker 2: how to rush the passer. I don't know how good

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Speaker 2: of a position coach is, but what I do know

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Speaker 2: is he knows how to teach pass rush. I mean

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Speaker 2: he had a very successful academy for years of.

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Speaker 3: Von Miller kind of splintered off and did stuff with

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Speaker 3: him as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean he taught guys how to

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Speaker 2: rush the passer. He understands it. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's any mistake because I don't think last year they

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Speaker 2: were a great pass rush team.

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Speaker 3: No, and and and remember they've drafted the Dapha kid

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Speaker 3: and uh Ojabo and those two guys haven't been what

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Speaker 3: they thought they would be. And they're still getting to

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Speaker 3: the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They're taking the ball. Gino Stone has six interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Satan splaying out of his mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you get thirty five sacks in the air, right,

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Speaker 2: get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: By the way. One thing, and I know we talked

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Speaker 3: about this last week, and Tony, when you left, you

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Speaker 3: had bought in on getting getting the pass rusher. Well

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Speaker 3: they didn't get one. Nope, and I was personally I

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Speaker 3: thought they should go get one. I really did the

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Speaker 3: more I thought about it. The problem is they couldn't

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Speaker 3: go get those guys for the price that they got

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Speaker 3: him for because they didn't have those picks available. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a flaw and plan to begin with.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but Pete, I don't I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 2: because we talked about this last week. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: it again. I don't think it's fair for you say

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Speaker 2: it's a faw and plan because you were the one

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Speaker 2: who applauded the Ridley trade as much as any You

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Speaker 2: don't get to go back. We had this conversation last

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Speaker 2: year and this offseason, and you were all over.

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Speaker 1: How great of a trade that was, and they drafted

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher number one overall, Well that's okay, Like

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Speaker 1: that's part of the deal. If we had these guys,

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Speaker 1: let's develop and all right, let's come back. We've got

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Speaker 1: a whole hour to get into that.

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Speaker 3: Here he goes, he's going on tvon.

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Speaker 1: We're just getting started. Second hour coming up. We will

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Speaker 1: get the fanatics, fan questions and much more. What a

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Speaker 3: You've got to be.

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Speaker 4: Better on first and second down and it keeps you

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Speaker 4: out of those third and longs. I mean, now those

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Speaker 4: are hard, hard downs to convert.

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Speaker 7: And when you look at it from what what we've

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Speaker 7: put ourselves in, whether it be a penalty, a sack,

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Speaker 7: something of that nature, that gets it's in those third

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Speaker 7: and you know, twelve pluses.

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Speaker 3: You know, your.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback has to hold the ball.

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Speaker 5: We've we've obviously gone up against some really talented edge

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Speaker 5: and pass rushers and you know it's just it's hard,

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Speaker 5: extremely hard.

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Speaker 4: And then execution.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've we've had some drops, you know, we've

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Speaker 5: had we've had some missed opportunities, you know, miss throws things.

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Speaker 5: So you know, when you look at it, it's it's

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Speaker 5: opportunities that are there. But but again it's it's us

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Speaker 5: being better on first down and second down that keep

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Speaker 5: about keep us out of you know, those situations.

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Speaker 1: Stuck Peterson of course, today on the Media Zoom Call

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Speaker 1: and Welcome Back, it's our number two of Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour and it's presented by mister Chubby's Wings j P. Shadwick.

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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli has stepped away. He'll be back maybe some point,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Pete prisc goes down South Florida. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are coming off the bye week, the second ALP

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Speaker 1: about to get underway. Jack six and two. They lead

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Speaker 1: the AFC South there as of today, the number three seed.

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Speaker 1: If the playoffs started today, which they never do, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars will be the three seed. Three of the next

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Speaker 1: four games are here at home the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: the Titans, and then at the Texans and then home

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Speaker 1: against the Bengals on Monday Night Football. The health of

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Speaker 1: the team. Doug Peterson on Monday discussing a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that Walker Little ready to go. He is the

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Speaker 1: starting left guard, even with the trade to acquire Ezra

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Speaker 1: Cleveland from the Vikings, he is the backup. Walker Little

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Speaker 1: will start at left guard. The cornerback Tyson Campbell should

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Speaker 1: be good to go off a hamstring Andre Cisco as well.

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Speaker 1: The question mark, though, is Jay Jones day to day.

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Speaker 1: Apparently got to work out int a day. It's players

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Speaker 1: around the facility. We'll see how that responds moving ahead.

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Speaker 1: But that just didn't sound overall the tone very promising

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Speaker 1: from the head coach in the short term we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. You can. Day to day means day to day,

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Speaker 1: he could tomorrow have a different day. Are we all

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Speaker 1: day today? Yes? We are. We need to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good.

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Speaker 2: Did I not make it?

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Speaker 1: You're great?

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Speaker 3: When they said he got a when they said he

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Speaker 3: got a workout into, do you get a lift in?

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Speaker 3: Or what I mean? What do they?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love the vague answers. Oh, we got to work out.

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Speaker 1: In today, dude, that's what coaches do. Pete?

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Speaker 2: How long I have been covering this game?

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Speaker 1: Are you rookie? You're gonna cry about it? Pete?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I pestu him to answer the damn question.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do, cry about it? Wow?

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Speaker 2: JP taking shots it's an easy one point, JP, if

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Speaker 2: you just joined us, it's our two of Jaguars.

878
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Happy we went and Heat is on a roll today.

879
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I must say heris not.

880
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: On a raw. I take shots at the bubble screens

881
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: every time we're on.

882
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that's the second of many things you've talked

883
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: about today. You've crushed the USC quarterback for crying after

884
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: a tough loss.

885
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: We're caring too much.

886
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: We're caring too much of them staying and helping his team,

887
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: his toughness and fighting through adversity and trying to deal

888
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: with it.

889
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did, did his mental fortitude?

890
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: You said, how many bubble screens of game do they run?

891
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are all over there? He said it seventy

892
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: seven times, seventy seven around that the past rush thing.

893
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: You've been on that for a while.

894
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: You started it on just before.

895
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: My favorite is all of a sudden, Pete is now

896
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: criticizing the Ridley trade right now?

897
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: That's right. That's another one added to the bingo card.

898
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know where were crossing that one often.

899
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: I didn't see that on the bingo card.

900
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Did you know?

901
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: I didn't either. I missed that one, especially the guys

902
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: who had pom poms when it was when the trade

903
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: was made.

904
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: It's a great trade getting Ridley. It's you probably should

905
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: have tied three picks to it.

906
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: You don't get to have it both ways. Twenty twenty hindsight, you.

907
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: Gotta pick Pete. Did you like the trade or not?

908
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: How many trades have you heard that have three draft

909
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: picks tied to him? Tony Pete? I don't know.

910
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: I'd have to go look and study the history of

911
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: the NFL. But I'm Pete, that's not the point. The

912
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: point is when the trade was made.

913
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: I remember being on the show.

914
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm going through what we gave up a fourth based

915
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: on this, a third base, on this point in time.

916
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: In a second, if we resign him to a new deal,

917
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: and you, quote unquote, I love it, low risk, great deal.

918
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley's a number one receiver.

919
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah, black receiver. But Pete, I don't.

920
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I love you, brother, one of the best

921
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: of what you do, but you don't. I'm not gonna

922
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: sit here and let you change and rewrite history. There's

923
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: enough of that going on in this world today. I

924
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: don't need you rewriting history when you're the one who

925
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: wrote it in the first place.

926
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: I like the trade. I'm not gonna say I didn't.

927
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: You just you just got done criticizing it. You literally

928
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: said you probably shouldn't.

929
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: Have made a trade. They're tying up three draft picks,

930
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: so you couldn't go get the pass rusher. So you

931
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: just said you want me to I can have Joe.

932
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: I can say it again. You don't tie the tree.

933
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: They probably should have done it without tying the three

934
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: picks to it. That's all.

935
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Would they have been able to do it without doing that?

936
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the question asked JP. Thank you, so, Pete,

937
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question. Hold up, I'm asking

938
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: the question. I'm interviewing you. You're the coach at the

939
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: podium now, okay, coach.

940
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: GM, I'll answer the question like a coach.

941
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you're the GM. You're not a coach. You

942
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: can't even you couldn't draw a play up on the

943
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: board for your life depending on it. I'll do both, okay,

944
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: mister GM. Pete Priscoe, yep, yes, are you? Would you

945
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: be willing to trade Colvin Ridley? We have Calvin Ridley

946
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: for it. I'm let the Atlanta Falcons have calling you up.

947
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: Pete Priscoe. I know you'd like a receiver. We're looking

948
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: unload him to get Calvin Ridley. So take a fourth.

949
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: If he plays twenty five percent of the time, if

950
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: he plays seventy five percent of this many catches and

951
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

952
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: It's and be a third.

953
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: And if you re sign him to a deal, it's

954
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a second. You want to do the deal, Pete.

955
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I want to do the deal. I like Calvin Ridley,

956
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: but he's coming off suspension. He hasn't been reinstated yet.

957
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to tie it.

958
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me assu interrupt you because I

959
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: don't care what you want. I got another team willing

960
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: to give me a similar deal, but I like you better, Pete.

961
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: So do you want to do the deal. Here's the deal.

962
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. The deal is this.

963
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Another team is in Houston, Texans.

964
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: So here's the deal.

965
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: The deal is, Pete, do you want to get Do

966
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: you want to tie up a fourth to third, the

967
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: second depending on what you do with Calvin Ridley to

968
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: get Calvin Ridley? Yes or no.

969
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: It's a very it's a binary question. We're not negotiating

970
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: yes or no.

971
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: You know what, Falcons. I have solved my pass rush

972
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: because I have an elite pass rusher that I drafted

973
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: first overall, so I'm never gonna need those draft picks.

974
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll make that deal with you. How's that?

975
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: So you liked it? So now you're saying you like

976
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: the deal.

977
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't like paying three picks to it. That's

978
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: not the you don't like, yes, do. But here's the

979
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: other one. We when we like that deal, we also

980
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: were assuming that the first overall pick would be a

981
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: better pass rusher.

982
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: That was my point when I brought it up to begin. Well,

983
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: here's my point. You don't get in now and say

984
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: it was a bad trade. You don't like it, that's

985
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: my only point. I'm not My question is it put.

986
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Him in It put him in a pickle where they

987
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: couldn't use any picks to go.

988
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: I'll a differently than yes, I'm not. Hold on, I'm

989
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: gonna ask you differently. No, hold on, I'm in charge.

990
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: Of this interview, not you. I'm gonna ask it differently.

991
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: Pete, like you did.

992
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: Would you I never walked, never walked away from a

993
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: question from you ever.

994
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Would you.

995
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: Rather have Calvin Ridley or those three picks so you

996
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: could have possibly no guarantee, possibly traded for a pastors.

997
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: Which one do you want? Because you know you don't

998
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: get both, Pete, that's my point. You don't get Calvin

999
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Ridley and access to all three picks, So which one

1000
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: do you want? Because I know what you wanted back

1001
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: last year. You wanted Calvin Ridley. Are you now saying

1002
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: you'd rather have those three picks than Colvin Ridley? No, okay,

1003
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: then stop talking about it.

1004
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no. Would you rather have negotiated

1005
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: a better trade deal and had one of those picks.

1006
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: To go get How do you know Trent didn't? How

1007
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: do you know the original deal wasn't for it a

1008
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: guarantee three? No?

1009
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: How do you know it wasn't? It wasn't a guaranteed

1010
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: two or three? It was a guaranteed two and three?

1011
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: How do you know it was in the two and three?

1012
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 3: Hope it was a guaranteed. If it was a guaranteed two,

1013
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: then they would have been able to use the three

1014
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: in the fourty past? What is that a good deal?

1015
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 3: Let me ask you that on the surface, was it

1016
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: smart to tie the three picks up to whether whichever

1017
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: one you give up for him, was it smart to

1018
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: tie all three of them up to get him?

1019
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Well, here's pete, here's there's I'm not going to go

1020
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: back and do revision's history when the trade happened.

1021
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Yes it is.

1022
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: It's affecting immediate history. It's affecting you.

1023
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Miss my point. I didn't love having three draft picks

1024
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: tied up, but I'm not going to be I'm not

1025
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: going to be critical of Trent or Doug or anyone

1026
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: else with this building for it because when the trade

1027
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: was made.

1028
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: And we can go back and play the show.

1029
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, we'll see risk. Because I

1030
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: would pay attention to Calvin Redley. I don't know if

1031
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: he was in good shape. I had nothing.

1032
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: I had one great year right, and we knew he

1033
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: was suspended and he left for personal in the year

1034
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: before then.

1035
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: That's all I knew.

1036
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, okay, Like do

1037
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I like Calvin really?

1038
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: No?

1039
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I think he's a great teammate. He's helping this team.

1040
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: He's a good player. But I'm not going to go back.

1041
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: Even though I was luke warm at the time, I

1042
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: wasn't critical and I wasn't doing what you were doing,

1043
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 2: which had pom poms out saying what a great trade

1044
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: it was.

1045
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: He's number one receiver. I didn't have pomp They're on

1046
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: your shelf. Yeah, a hell of a he was a

1047
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: hell of a j.

1048
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

1049
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: So there were people in that building who had palm

1050
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: ups out when I was there for camp were comparing

1051
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: him to Jimmy Smith.

1052
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: And that's it. No, those were pomp poms. That was

1053
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: the whole cheer squad that was doing like pyramids and

1054
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: backflips and everything else.

1055
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: But but better off not tying those three picks and

1056
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: sending a second for Chase Young and having both of

1057
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: them on the roster.

1058
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: So right now, that wasn't Pete. You don't get to

1059
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: do that because that that wasn't the trade that was offered.

1060
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: So here's the question. Would you rather, at least would

1061
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: you rather have all access to those picks?

1062
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: All three?

1063
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: But you don't have Calvin Ridley on your team right now?

1064
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you? You could have just made it a

1065
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 3: straight two for Calvin Ridley.

1066
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: But that's not the deal. That's not the deal.

1067
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: You can live in your fantasy football world and make

1068
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: it up if you go, this isn't like Pete Prisco's reality.

1069
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: I get to do whatever you want.

1070
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe if I trade up and only give up

1071
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: you know, seventh round, but I get to the first pick.

1072
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: I can take this guy.

1073
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: WHOA You're like every other guy in their basement doing

1074
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: mock drafts right now?

1075
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Is trip me crazy?

1076
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: What's the best thing that they fouc are gonna get

1077
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: out of Jacksonville for this for right now. But if

1078
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: they resign them, they're gonna get it.

1079
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 4: Two.

1080
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but right now it's a third.

1081
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: Okay, But let's just assume you did the deal for

1082
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: a straight two.

1083
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: If you can't, can't assume that, basically, I'm going home.

1084
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: You're done.

1085
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: You like honestly, you are one of the best writers

1086
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: in the entire world in my opinion, in you should

1087
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. You are that good.

1088
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: You are the best Pete Ryan here I've ever been around.

1089
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: You're amazing.

1090
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: But right now you are driving me crazy.

1091
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous, and you are like a petulant teenager

1092
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: who just won't admit that they're wrong wrong.

1093
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't tell you how many people in

1094
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: the league have said that I've talked to that question

1095
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Speaker 3: tie and three picks to it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I think you need, Pete, is a

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00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: good cry crying out.

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Speaker 3: If the past rush ends up with twenty two sacks

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Speaker 3: on the season and some of those guys don't get going,

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00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna be crying a lot of tears because they

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00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: didn't get Chase Young or Montese sweat.

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Speaker 2: How about that they were never going to get Monteste

1103
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Sweat because montwast Montese Sweat wanted four years, one hundred million.

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00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: They were never getting Impete.

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Speaker 3: And Daniel Hunter would have had wanted that kind of

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00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: money too.

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00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 2: That's why you.

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00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: Wanted to give up the first round pick for Daniel Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Last week I said I was at this point rolled

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: the die and do whatever. I never said I would

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00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: give him a long term deal.

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: No, but you were you were all in on the rental.

1113
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't say I wasn't, But you've.

1114
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: Been all in on the rental for Montest Sweat.

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00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: I think Donell Daniel Hunter is a better player than

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00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: Montes what wasn't better player?

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00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: But if you had a second round pick, would you

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00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: have given up the second to I don't think I

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00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: would have. Oh how about Chase.

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Speaker 2: What's the what's the what's the number? The highest number

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00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: of sacks? Montes what has had?

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Sambay And No, I would not have for Chase Young either.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd give I wouldn't give a second

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00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: round for Chase Young because he's hurt all the time.

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna see him this week.

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00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat in his career, his high water mark of

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Speaker 1: sacks is nine and twenty twenty. His second year. He

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00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: had eight sacks in twenty twenty two, and he had

1130
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: seven sacks his rookie year in nineteen.

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00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's never been a double digit sack guy. I'm

1132
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: not going to give him a second rounder for him

1133
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: for a rental.

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: No, Daniel Daniel Hunter is a digit sack, a better player.

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00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: I get you weready, get were gonna give up a

1136
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: first for Daniel Hunter. Let's not forget, and I still

1137
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: would have.

1138
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not going back.

1139
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: And when I said, I'm just saying, Pete, my point

1140
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: is not whether we give a second whatever for a

1141
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: pass rusher. I like I would have liked to get

1142
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: a pass rusher. I'm not disagreeing with you on that.

1143
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: What I'm disagreeing with is you don't get to be

1144
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: all excited in praising Trent for the trade he made

1145
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: last year and now saying it was a bad trade

1146
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: to tie up three picks.

1147
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Well, I was praising him for acquiring him, not for

1148
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: tying up.

1149
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: Now. Oh hear that beeping, that's Pete backing up.

1150
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 3: And you know what, you know what, every time, every

1151
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: single time I Chase Young if Chase Young sacks Trevor

1152
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: Lawrence a couple of times, the fan should yell conditional,

1153
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: conditional every time he has a sack of sex. Conditional

1154
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: pick they could have used to get to get Chase

1155
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: Young on their side.

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00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: JP, Yes, Tony, how long have we been doing this

1157
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: show with me? A long long time and.

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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: A long time and I've i've i have dominated him

1159
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: in debates in one point, but never this is this.

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00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: Right here with me? By the way, put a poll

1161
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 3: out and put a poll on Twitter. I guarantee they

1162
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: agree with me.

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Speaker 1: This right here.

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00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: Rubbing people put the wrong pull out because I'm not questioning.

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00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm not questioning whether we should have I would have

1166
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: liked to have a pass rusher or not. My only

1167
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: thing is do you here's the poll question. Is it responsible,

1168
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: as a professional journalist and a member who of highly

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00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: esteemed CBS sports writing on the national scene to praise

1170
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: and cheer a trade and then less than a year

1171
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: later call it a bad trade for tying up too?

1172
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: I didn't say it was a bad trade.

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00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: JP.

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00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: It handcuffed them.

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00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: Hey, let's come back and keep it real. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've done that Yetbut let's do that. We'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Maybe I doubt it, Probably not. Hey, mister

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Speaker 1: tell you what's in it because I don't know either.

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Speaker 2: I bet those are good.

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Speaker 1: are the games that counts.

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Speaker 8: Those are the games that you know you can gain

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Speaker 8: confidence and get on a role going to playoffs, or

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Speaker 8: you get fall off and lose and you know, hurt

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Speaker 8: to such yourself in the foot, put yourself in a

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Speaker 8: bad situation or whatever. So obviously we're playing really well.

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Speaker 8: Now we've been rolling and uh, but we have to

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Speaker 8: make sure you know we're we're doing this in the

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Speaker 8: end too.

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Speaker 3: Are finishing strong.

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Speaker 1: Let's Evan Ingram, Jaguars tight End and Welcome Back is

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Speaker 1: the Miller Electric Center in downtown Jacksonville in the Hundai

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Speaker 1: Studios Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Pete's digging himself

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Speaker 1: a hole tonight. I must say he's not. Yeah, kind

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Speaker 1: of hard agree with me?

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Speaker 3: Did they?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Hey? By the way, Evan Ingram has Evan Ingram is

1211
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Speaker 3: one of those guys that always seems to have the

1212
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Speaker 3: right perspective on stuff.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Really, he's a very smart, thoughtful dude.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a I mean Josh Allen is a lot

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00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: like that too. I think they both do. But I've

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00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 3: noticed that more and more as Van Ingram has become

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: a bigger part of it, looks like he's you know,

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00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: last year he was on the one year deal. You

1220
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 3: weren't sure. But now he's a big part of this team.

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Speaker 3: I think he's kinda he says the right stuff, he

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Speaker 3: gets it.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the big marketplace. He was a first

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00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: round pick. It didn't go like he wanted to in

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00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: New York. Obviously he's been through that and now he's

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: got a quarterback and he's got things going the right

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Speaker 1: way and the contract and yeah, that makes a lot

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: of sense to me.

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Speaker 3: He would be like Tony back in the day. I

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00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: think he would have been like one of my go

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Speaker 3: to guys in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be good. Yeah, he's good. He's really really good.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: what is it? The promo code is Tony seven one.

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Is that more money off for seventy one dollars tickets

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Speaker 3: You know what you do should raise money? You should

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Speaker 3: have a crying booth.

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00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Are you gonna come?

1250
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Prisco crying tank.

1251
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: Or maybe a change the narrative tank or change the stories,

1252
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: or maybe be the hypocrite.

1253
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: Booth no hypocrite or the.

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00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: No crying in Football. Oh, you know what it should be.

1255
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: You know what we should do.

1256
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: I know what the booth should be, the quarterback booth.

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00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco host, I could tell you what to do

1258
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: after it's already been done and why I'm right and

1259
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: they're wrong, the armchair g both.

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Speaker 3: It could be the company man booth.

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Speaker 2: I am I'm not gonna respond to it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, gosh, all right, I'm tired.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's time now for Keeping it Real presented by

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Speaker 1: Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundab All right, what

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Speaker 1: do they need to do on offense to take the

1267
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Speaker 1: next step? The rest of the season? Nine games to go.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna I'm actually gonna agree with something

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00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: Pete has said. Him and I have talked about it

1270
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Speaker 2: off the show. I'm not gonna position it with talking

1271
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: about bubble screens for the seventy eighth time on this show.

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00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, I think we're past that.

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: I do think getting a little more vertical and pressing

1274
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: the ball down the field a little bit more stretching

1275
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: the defense. I'm not saying you just throwing it up constantly,

1276
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: but like just deep down the sideline middle, just stretch

1277
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: the defense a little bit, because I think it will

1278
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: open up the crossers and some of the other in

1279
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: the bubble screens and some of the other the stuff

1280
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 2: they want to do, as well as the run games.

1281
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: So I think maybe trusting you know, if it is

1282
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: where Pete and I always assume it's a lack of

1283
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: trust offensive line, that's unfair. Maybe it is right or not, but.

1284
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: I think they get it out of his hands fast,

1285
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: no matter what the issue is.

1286
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: And so it takes like a few times, you know,

1287
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: increase the number of times a game where you're taking

1288
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: shots down the field. I think that's the big thing

1289
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: I would say, and.

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00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with you one hundred percent. And they

1291
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: haven't trusted the offensive line, and you had to get

1292
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: the ball quickly out of his hands when he was hurt,

1293
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: and so I think that played into it. But now

1294
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: you have walker little back the interior the offensive line

1295
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: shouldn't be an issue anymore. It should be much better.

1296
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be you have to call those plays the

1297
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: way they've been calling them. And the other thing is

1298
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: is I think Trevor's been sped up. I really do.

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: I think he's been sped up because the offensive line

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: in the middle of that line has not played that

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: well in pass protection. So he's been sped up. So

1302
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: he takes the quick slant where he we've there have

1303
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: been many a plays where you could look at it

1304
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: took he took the you know, the ten dollars instead

1305
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Speaker 3: of going for the thousand, and now I think he

1306
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: has to start going for the thousand. I think that's there.

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Speaker 3: It's in his game. We've seen it. It's all part

1308
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: of who he is. He's made that way. So now

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Speaker 3: that's the next step of the second half of the season.

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Speaker 3: And to beat the forty nine ers, you're gonna have

1311
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: to beat them with shots. You're gonna have to get

1312
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: the ball down the field. You saw Joe Burrow against him.

1313
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: He hit the shots down the field. So I think

1314
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna have to do. One hundred percent

1315
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: in agreement with Tony, I think that's the next step

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: for the offense.

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Speaker 1: You have it Keeping it Real presented by wood Bridge

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01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: by Robert Bndave you open up a winner today, Real

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01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundavi. We could have

1320
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: made this the keeping It Real topic, but we didn't.

1321
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: We've been teasing it all hour and a half. Offensive

1322
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: and defensive MVPs. At the midway point y like that,

1323
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: what do you got, Pete? Who do you like on offense?

1324
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: Look, the quarterbacks always the MVP, no matter what.

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: He is, he's played, he's played.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're not speaking of Trevor in this case. I

1327
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: disagree one hundred percent that the quarterback is always the.

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Speaker 3: The most starting quarterbacks in the NFL.

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: Are they who's the most valuable player of the Dolphins?

1330
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: Mm Tua, No, Tyreek Kill, They're not anything.

1331
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: Yes, if you take two away and play with U

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01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, you're not Mike White Are You're going

1333
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: to be the same. I don't think too is what

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: everybody else thinks he is.

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: Either you take you take Tyreek Hill away and that

1336
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: that offense isn't scary.

1337
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 3: It's I get it. I understand tygreek Kill is probably

1338
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: the scariest player in the NFL. But but you have

1339
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: to have your quarterback. If you don't have your quarterback.

1340
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: So so, having said that, Trevor's the m v P

1341
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: of this team. If he goes, they're done, period, end

1342
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: of story.

1343
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: You're missing the question. We didn't say the most important

1344
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: person or the most critical.

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: The team of the first half of the first eight the.

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: First eight games, who's it made the biggest impact? Was

1347
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: valuable player on this team?

1348
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: Okay, on the offensive side of the ball, you would

1349
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: probably go with etn Okay, but me personally, because that's

1350
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: who I am, I will take Trevor Lawrence.

1351
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: So you don't think in the NFL any position should

1352
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: be considered for MVP except for the quarterback.

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01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 3: If he's a if he's a franchise quarterback nine times

1354
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: out of ten er so then one don't mean you're

1355
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: starting Josh Dobbs and Justin Jefferson is probably going to

1356
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: be the No.

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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the overall award in the NFL

1358
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. You think it should

1359
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: be a quarterback every year?

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: He usually is.

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: I didn't ask what it usually is.

1362
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm asking you unless somebody goes above and beyond what

1363
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: they what they're what the position is then, yes, otherwise

1364
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: it's a quarterback.

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I disagree with that, and I'll give you

1366
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: a perfect examp.

1367
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: They give it to a left tackle.

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01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: And the uh it was either two years ago or

1369
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: three years ago, and maybe it was both years. The

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: most valuable player in the league was Aaron Donald. He

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: was what won then the Super Bowl. He was more

1372
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: valuable than any person on that team, literally right down

1373
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 2: to the final player.

1374
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He was more valuable than Matt Stafford.

1375
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the most valuable player in the NFL.

1376
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: Please, Okay, I mean he's clearly the best defensive player

1377
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL. That'll give you. Then he's not the best.

1378
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: He's not the most valuable player on the team. When

1379
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: Matt stafford Is came there and won a Super Bowl,

1380
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: he's the most valuable player.

1381
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: They don't win the Super Bowl without Aaron Donald.

1382
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about Travis etn being the m v

1383
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 3: P correct of the offense. We're going to go to defense. Okay, well,

1384
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: let me let me just make my case. Here's how

1385
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: you can Here's how you find out who the MVP

1386
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: of the team is. If Trevor weren't on the field,

1387
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: the team would be dysfunctional. If Travis Etn is not

1388
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: on the field, there's still function. There's the m v P.

1389
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: About defense, Pete, I don't I think.

1390
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: I think your definition is terrible.

1391
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: Most viable players the e P.

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: No, but what goes to the most valuable player? Who's

1393
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: making the Who's who's playing?

1394
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: The offensive player? That's you for the Jaguars, Who's that's privacyn.

1395
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay? How about defense? Pete? This should be the easy.

1396
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: Frustrated, I don't get it. The empty quarterbacks always the

1397
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: m v P. Who's the defensive m v P? Josh Allen?

1398
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: And and look I get Tony mentioned he likes three

1399
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: different guys. I know he's talking about he's talking about

1400
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: a Lucan, Josh Allen and Darius Williams.

1401
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: Darius has a case. By the way, are you well,

1402
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm crying.

1403
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm crying.

1404
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm crying.

1405
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: Got a frustration of how idiotic the conversation is today

1406
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: to keep going?

1407
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: You know what, though, you could talk about how that was.

1408
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: But I think JP got my point and he was

1409
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: agreement with me.

1410
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: What about the three?

1411
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: About the about the MVP?

1412
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: Oh, the quarterback stuff. Yeah, yeah, I kind of feel you.

1413
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: Pete makes sense, but I will I would say Etn

1414
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: the overall has been the best overall offensive player.

1415
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that I would agree with. He's been the best

1416
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: because Trevor has a performed to what I thought he

1417
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 3: was going to perform too.

1418
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: But he's still doing things outside of that to make

1419
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: his team go win and do things. No, no, no,

1420
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback.

1421
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but he hasn't been as good as I

1422
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: thought he was going to be, right, and that's fair too.

1423
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 3: He has been as good as we thought he was

1424
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: going to be. So so yeah, he he's the offensive

1425
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 3: player of the year on the team.

1426
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: Hey, what's your defensive player, Tony? Since you're all into

1427
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: this conversation right now, what is it? Quickly? I gotta

1428
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: do offense first. Oh, you haven't done your offense? No,

1429
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: we'll hurry.

1430
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: Most valuable player because I'm usually looking at this at

1431
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: the halfway, Who's who's the best offense, who's had the

1432
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: best year offensively? Who's made the biggest impact, And that's

1433
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: Travis Etn And I would argue after that it's probably

1434
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram. Now the most critical important piece of this

1435
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: whole franchise, not just offense, but defense, special.

1436
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: Teams, everything, like everything is Trevor Lawrence. He's a franchise quarterback.

1437
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: But as far as we define it differently, I'm not

1438
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: going to do this again with you.

1439
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 1: Boy. It's the peak.

1440
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: Got the three guys right, and if I had to

1441
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: narrow it down to two, because here's my thing, I'm

1442
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: gonna go through each of them a lua kon starting

1443
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: with him. I'm not sure they get lined up every

1444
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: play without.

1445
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: Him, well, particularly not last year.

1446
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: That's a different year.

1447
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this year.

1448
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: Just watch him.

1449
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying guys aren't ready, but he is like

1450
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: identifying everything. He's always in the right place. He makes

1451
01:06:53,480 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: sure he's a tackling machine, great blitzer, big big Playsarius Williams,

1452
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look at his number. He's number one rated

1453
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: corner in the NFL in a passing league with not

1454
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: a great pass rush.

1455
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: And he's not the biggest guy.

1456
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: Forget.

1457
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: Let's just think about this. At least the last time

1458
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: I look going into the bye I believe he was

1459
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: the number one rated corner in the NFL in the PFF.

1460
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: Pretty high hid.

1461
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: But he's up there and he's doing that with the

1462
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: thirtieth best pass rush in the NFL.

1463
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: Well, not only that. Before the season, Tony, if you

1464
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: would have told us that he was better than Tyson

1465
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: campbells and Tyson Campbell's been good, but he would be

1466
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: graded better, you would have said, no way, that's not happening.

1467
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 3: I agree, he's played unreal.

1468
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: And then Josh Allen is number two in the NFL.

1469
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: He's going into the bye week in sacks.

1470
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: He's now five, but there's guys with like nine and

1471
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: a half. There's three guys with nine, and.

1472
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: We all have an extra game than he does. And

1473
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: he's been good against the run. I mean, he's been great,

1474
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: and so to me, it's a coin flip. I think

1475
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: you can choose any of them.

1476
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: We'll choose one. I'm having a hard time obviously tonight

1477
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: Pete picked Josh Allen.

1478
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a little con.

1479
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, And I couldn't, by the way, I

1480
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 3: couldn't argue any of them.

1481
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: I can't either. I mean, I picked Josh Allen. I

1482
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: think he's amazing, and I could pick Darius Williams.

1483
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: Darius Williams is third ranked in PFF behind Jalen Johnson

1484
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 3: and Paulson the deebo.

1485
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 1: All right, very nice, and he's.

1486
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: Played one hundred more snaps or almost one hundred more

1487
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 3: snaps than both of them.

1488
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1489
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: That's what it really is. We're back in a moment.

1490
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: We've got fanatics, fan questions that'll get us go on

1491
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: tonight because we're not quite there yet.

1492
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, today, JP, I to keep him in line today,

1493
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah are you?

1494
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1495
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't think Sophia, I think.

1496
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: You're out of line.

1497
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: I think the fans know.

1498
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've read some of the comments. They know they know.

1499
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know. We're about to find out. Fanatics,

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: fan questions. Our next Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister

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Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 9: I really didn't realize that we had Wing against October

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 9: last year. So press said it today and I was like, dang,

1504
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 9: is this is much better feeling. I know everyone's feeling

1505
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 9: much better, and we're grateful for you know, because we

1506
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 9: know what it to be like on the other side.

1507
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 9: And now we just want to enjoy this moment. And

1508
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 9: he's kind of soaking it right now. But don't get

1509
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 9: too stuck in a moment the way we don't be

1510
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 9: able to move forward.

1511
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: It's Travis et and junior Jaguars running back near the

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: top of the league in rushing attempts, rushing yardage tied

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: for third, and rushing touchdowns, and welcome back in Shaguars

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Yes, the Jags were undefeated in October five

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: and oh they were zero and five last October. And

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: now it's onto November and much more ahead for this team.

1517
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: Nine games to go, and it's time for the Fanatics

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,639
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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: we put the cat signal out on X earlier today.

1522
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get our TV in here so

1523
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: I don't have to look over here away from the camera.

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, Tony. Here's the best we've come up

1525
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: with at unbiased jag Will Tony give up pregame pep

1526
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: talk to the offensive line to stop Nick Bosa and

1527
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: Chase Young.

1528
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: They don't need one. Here's the deal, let's just call

1529
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: it what it is. The forty nine ers an't rushing

1530
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 2: the passes very well right now. Now they're capable and

1531
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: the Chase Young helped them do that. I don't know,

1532
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: it's not like he's a he's been lighting it up.

1533
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: He's a good player to remember.

1534
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: Yeah he's done, he's done nothing. Bosa is not really

1535
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: getting to the quarterback now. They pressure the impact. They

1536
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 2: moved Joe Burrow around. But how many is how many

1537
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: is Joe?

1538
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

1539
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa have.

1540
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: Even they didn't sack they didn't sack Cousins when they

1541
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 3: played him.

1542
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: No, and but overall, this is how you handle a

1543
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: great Passosa has three, by the way, hard Grave has three, Yeah,

1544
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: like arms half. Armstead had two against the Bengals, right,

1545
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how he hasn't Armstead has two and

1546
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: a half now yeah too against the Bengals.

1547
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: But for that group, they're not getting home enough.

1548
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: No, and they're giving a bunch of yards.

1549
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: Eighteen total sacks for the forty nine ers defense.

1550
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: That's less than us, two more in this I'm sorry,

1551
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: two more than us. But here's I mean, they're good

1552
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 2: players though. I mean Nick bost is a good player.

1553
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: It's called what it is.

1554
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Nineteen quarterback hits number one.

1555
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 2: He's good, That's what I'm saying. I mean, he's he's

1556
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: just not finishing. It's probably the better way to say it.

1557
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: They're disrupting, and they disrupted Joe Burrow at times, but

1558
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: they gave up. They go through stretches where there's a

1559
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: bunch of time back there and they're getting trying to

1560
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: play more man that I think they probably should and

1561
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: they're getting torched a little bit.

1562
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different, different style in that back then

1563
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: it is they played. They do play more man.

1564
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: They played more man, which you know, and this is

1565
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: not the question, but it's gonna be a big opportunity

1566
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: for Trevor to use his legs because when a team

1567
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: plays man with a running quarterback, watch out if you

1568
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: don't get home. But they got good pass rushers. They

1569
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: got Nick Bosa. Chase Young is a freakish athlete, but

1570
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's proven he's a great pass rusher yet.

1571
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: Randy Gregory's long powerful good player. Is he great?

1572
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: No?

1573
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: But good like Eric Armstead is rather second best pass

1574
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,440
Speaker 2: rusher or Hard Graves, and Hard Graves is a disruptive

1575
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: force inside.

1576
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: But from the tackle position.

1577
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: My mindset any time, I'll go back to ninety six

1578
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: when I played against Bruce Smith or against Derrek Thomas

1579
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: in ninety eight or whatever year you wanted to talk about.

1580
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Playing against top end guys, it's about you more than them,

1581
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: because if you make it about them, then you get

1582
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 2: in your head and you get all messed up. Look

1583
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: how good there, Look how fast they are.

1584
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: Look how powerful?

1585
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: Look at the spin move, Look at a hump move.

1586
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: They can do this, they can do that, and everything else.

1587
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: It's about you. It's about your technique, it's about your preparation.

1588
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: It's about you having a game plan and then going

1589
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: executing the game plan, because if you have that mindset,

1590
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: you'll be much more relaxed. If you're so worried about

1591
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: the guy you're playing against, and I've gotten my head

1592
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: where I've been all out of sorts thinking about the

1593
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: guy more than what I'm supposed to do. You will

1594
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: be anxious, you'll be leaning, you'll get out of position,

1595
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: your body position won't be right, your foot wart won't

1596
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: be right.

1597
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: You'll be just all out of sorts.

1598
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: And so the better the player is, the more you

1599
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: needed to make it about your technique, your game plan

1600
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: and executing it and then let the chips fall where

1601
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: they may. And what I tried to tell myself going

1602
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: to the games like that is you know what if

1603
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,480
Speaker 2: I go do my execute my game plan, have great technique,

1604
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: compete my ass off, and play physical and I still

1605
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: get beat. I can live with that. I can live

1606
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: with it. But what I can't live with and if

1607
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: I go back in the history of my career from college,

1608
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean from pro to college to high school, and

1609
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: trust me, I got a messed up mind where I

1610
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: can remember every I don't remember all the good stuff.

1611
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 2: I remember every bad play, every bad game, every bad moment,

1612
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: and I go back and think about those. You know

1613
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: where I get mad at myself is when it was

1614
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: in my head or mentally I allowed myself not to

1615
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: do what I knew I was supposed to do, or

1616
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: I didn't trust my technique because I was worried about

1617
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: the guy I was playing against and said, just doing

1618
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: my job. Not once ever since I've been playing the

1619
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: game of football, have I ever felt bad, look back

1620
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: and been disappointed. I did At any moment I ever

1621
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: went out and executed my game plan, was physical as

1622
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: can be, and let the chips follow how they may.

1623
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: Because I did my technique, I was ready at a

1624
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: game plan, I was physical. I got beat that's the

1625
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: game of football. You're gonna get beat sometimes, and so

1626
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: that'd be my advice.

1627
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: So to answer the question, no, you're not going to

1628
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: give them a peptal.

1629
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: However, we just got one. I mean that's how I mean.

1630
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: I bet you if you talk to most.

1631
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: Guys that have success, that's the approach.

1632
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 3: I would agree with you on hundred percent.

1633
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: Well done, nice job. I'm ready to go block somebody now, so.

1634
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: In somebody's teeth and that.

1635
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: But that's the one thing with this Niner group. And

1636
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: we haven't talked a lot about them.

1637
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: They're good.

1638
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: I've watched them. I did one of their games. They're

1639
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: not playing very well as of late, but they're still,

1640
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, losing closer games and people for let's not

1641
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: forget they and Pete. I haven't heard the late, but

1642
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: they've been without their two best players in offense, yeah,

1643
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: two of the three they have three. They have three

1644
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: superstars on off Yeah, but they have three superstars on offense.

1645
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: McCaffrey deebo is not really a superstar. I think he's a.

1646
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: Superstar in that system. Yes, I think it's so versatile.

1647
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: And Trent Williams is the other. And then they got

1648
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: some other good players like Ahuk, very good player George

1649
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: which George Kittle is the fourth superstar on that team. Yeah,

1650
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 2: I did the Giants game on Monday night? Was it

1651
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: Thursday night?

1652
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: Remember they're very They're very star heavy that roster.

1653
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 2: Yes, they have a great inside backer, two great inside

1654
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,879
Speaker 2: backwards in green Law and Warner. They have very good safety.

1655
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 2: The kid from SC.

1656
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: Can be. He could be beating coverage though I'm.

1657
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: Not saying you can't be. He's a good player. And

1658
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: you know what they are, Pete. On both sides of

1659
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: the ball and JP, they are physical, tough. They're tough physical.

1660
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: So the mindset of not just the offensive line, but

1661
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: this entire team, you have to get your mind and

1662
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: body ready for a heavyweight fight, like this is a

1663
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: game when you're gonna go I'm gonna bloody them because

1664
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna try to bloody me. Yeah, and Pete, I remember,

1665
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, back when I was playing, you know the

1666
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: game like the there was all the games were physical,

1667
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: and I thought we were a pretty physical team. I

1668
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: mean that was my perception of us. Pete, you might

1669
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: have a different one, but from a personal standpoint, when

1670
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: we played the Ravens, especially when they started getting good

1671
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: on those defenses, and they had a guy named Michael

1672
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: McCrary who I probably respect as much of as much

1673
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: as any player I ever played the game of football

1674
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: against like I would all week, all week, and I

1675
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: try to do this every week, but it was highlighted

1676
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: this week. Is like I like, I got in this

1677
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: mindsets like I'm going to a heavyweight browl twelve rounds

1678
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: and I'm either gonna get knocked out or I'm gonna

1679
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 2: knock them out. And like, you have that mentality, so

1680
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: every play is a war. I mean, it is just

1681
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 2: and he can tell you those games.

1682
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: Those games are physical, and your battles with him were wars.

1683
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean I'm talking wars trying to kill each other.

1684
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean, and you can't even get away with some

1685
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: of the stuff we did now. I mean they couldn't

1686
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: get away with it now, but I mean trying.

1687
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: But that's how they got to play this week, because

1688
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: if you don't, they'll start feeding off of that.

1689
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: Yes, And so what that does when you have that

1690
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: mentality and when you play, I think, first of all,

1691
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 2: I think you should play like that every week. I

1692
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: think that's the game of football. If I go back

1693
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: to our opening conversation. My frustration with my alma mater

1694
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 2: USC is they don't have that attitude. The reason the

1695
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: SEC wins every damn year in college football is because

1696
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: they're tougher than everybody else. They're more physical than everybody else.

1697
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: And if you want to be a great team, if

1698
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: you want to be a championship team, you want to

1699
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: know why the Patriots won all those Super Bowls. Wasn't

1700
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 2: just because of Belichick and Brady. They were physical. I

1701
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: make his ass quick, I mean just tough. And so

1702
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 2: my message to the whether it's the offensive line or anybody,

1703
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: you want to be a championship team, you have to

1704
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: have that attitude. You better be ready, and you better

1705
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: bring that to this game. Because that's who the forty

1706
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 2: nine ers are. I don't care that they've lost three straight.

1707
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: They're a wounded animal. They're gonna even be more physical.

1708
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: And if they even get a hint, right, a hint,

1709
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: a whiff.

1710
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: Of you backing down or you not ready for the

1711
01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 2: physicality in the fight, you will get beat but.

1712
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: And it will be a feeding frenzy.

1713
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: But you know what, here's the other thing. If you

1714
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: match that, and you match it from the first play.

1715
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: I promise you they'll go. Oh, it's like Rocky four

1716
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 2: when Drago looked at Rocky and he said, he's not

1717
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: a man, he's a machine. He's a piece of meal,

1718
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: he's a piece of steel, because he wouldn't because.

1719
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: He wouldn't back down, be violent, all of that.

1720
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: Like I mean, and Doug.

1721
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: The stars are on the other team, Tony team. But

1722
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: here we always say who's the top five player at

1723
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 3: their position? On the Jaguars team, there are probably probably

1724
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 3: probably probably six guys that are top five at their

1725
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 3: at their position.

1726
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: And I'll just say this, and I know we got

1727
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: to go toward I'm fired up, I'm ready to go play.

1728
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: Apparently this is and I.

1729
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't mind in a game like this. And again,

1730
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: maybe you can't do this anymore. So forgive me, Doug

1731
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 2: if you hear this, and if any player does this

1732
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: and blames me, pet every one's on these type of games, eh,

1733
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 2: getting a fifteen yarder at the right time, sending a message,

1734
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: and not that you're trying to get a fifteen yarder,

1735
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: but going up to the edge, as we used to say,

1736
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: as I used to be taught, and again is play

1737
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Speaker 2: through the echo of the whistle. Don't play to the whistle,

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 2: play through the to the through the echo.

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Speaker 3: Like if you're if you're pinning back on the one

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01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: yard line and it's second doubt or something, eh, well,

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01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: you get a personal foul, it's a only gonna move

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Speaker 3: it back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: No, but you know but you know what I'm saying, like,

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01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: you know what, yeah, exactly, and you know what.

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01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: Don't let him get that extra shot on your running

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01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: back or or you know what, if you're on defense,

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: get that extra shot right on the running back. Send

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01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: a message because here's the big opportunity. And this is

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: what's exciting. Go beat the forty nine ers, because everyone,

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: even though they lost three straight, it's the forty nine ers, right,

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: It's Christian McCaffrey, it's Deebo Samuel, it's Trent Williams, it's

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01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: George Kittle, it's Nick Bosa, it's Fred Warner, I mean Greenlaw,

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean these it's the forty nine ers. You go

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: punch them in the mouth and you physically take it

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01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: to them and you put a W up on the board.

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're going to the super Bowl, doesn't mean

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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: you're winning the division. But it sends a message to

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: everybody this is who we are.

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Speaker 1: It's got a couple more questions in Okay, then we've

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: gotta take a time out at North Dakota, Jack, could

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01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: you give us the most heated interaction between the two

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01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: of you during Tony's playing career.

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can let me see if the let me

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: see if I agree with you. So there was twice, the

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: first the second. The second one wasn't really direct. He

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: was directed at Pete. But there there was an incident

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: I think it was two thousand with Mark Burnell getting

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01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: benched at the end of the Ravens game by Tom

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01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: and somebody from the media tried to make it a

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01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: story about like quarterback controversy and I lost it.

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01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: Ah, that might not have I might not have been there.

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01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: And then the other time is Pete. It was a

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: it was a weekly heated on Monday. Because Pete had

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01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: this propensity and it was this job, so it wasn't

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: really a propensity. He had a requirement to grade.

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that got that got me in trouble more

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: than anything I've ever done.

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01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: He had to grade to each position group and I.

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01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 3: Was That's what it was.

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 2: Though it was a run game Pass game.

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was. It was past game run

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01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: game then, but there was always one category for the

1783
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 3: offensive line had its own category, the only position group

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01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,919
Speaker 3: that got graded as by itself.

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 2: And I would just I come in hot.

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01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 3: You weren't alone, though, because you remember Leon and I

1787
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: remember one time Leon, I walked into the locker room

1788
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 3: after a game and Leon goes, we don't give a

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01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: help out your damn grades, Pete.

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: And then one time we roped off an area that

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: Pete wasn't allowed into.

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01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but it was never a heated no, no,

1793
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 3: it also heated. You didn't get heated with me. No.

1794
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 2: Pete and I had tense conversations, yes, and because I

1795
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: would go back at him and Pete, as everyone knows,

1796
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: Pete is never going to back down from anybody. We

1797
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: had that tonight never, which I respect and appreciate it,

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01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: and it's one of the reasons Pete and I are

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: such good friends. But it was always we'd go at it,

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: we'd disagree, but by the end of it, we were

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01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: talking about the league in general because we both loved football.

1802
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, I got just before we go JP,

1803
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 3: I got a text for do you mind who's listening, said, well,

1804
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 3: I think Tony needs a hug. You've had him all

1805
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 3: riled up would up today. Maybe JP can add that

1806
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 3: to his hosting duties.

1807
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't think so. That's not in the

1808
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: job description. I mean I could read something too. I'll

1809
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: be back. No, what do we do? What?

1810
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: We could read some tweets about Pete's We could, Yes,

1811
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: we could them.

1812
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't care we could.

1813
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm a team player, Pete. We only have a

1814
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: few minutes left. That's why we can't. Because we talked

1815
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: about crying in football for about a half hour earlier.

1816
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: That was a good segment, that was really competent. Actually, hey,

1817
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment quick around the league

1818
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. By the way you choked last week,

1819
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: it better be better. You better do a better job.

1820
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Can't really be worse. I suppose we're back in the moment.

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01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick next to Tony Boselli's massive foot on the desk.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing Jaguars dot com. Holy smokes, What in

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Speaker 1: the world, how are.

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Speaker 3: You supposed to do Monday night football with that thing? Henry?

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't see anything.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to do the Monday night football read when

1831
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Speaker 3: you got your.

1832
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Speaker 2: Foot I don't know what You've got to go fast,

1833
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Speaker 2: we have, we have two minutes left.

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Speaker 1: and go Jags Monday Night Football serve. I ken't do

1838
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: it with Tony laughing at me like that?

1839
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 3: What is that staring at me?

1840
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: Start over?

1841
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 2: Let's still again, start the musical.

1842
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's stop rusher he melts when I was fine

1843
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: and then Tony staring at me through the holes through stuff.

1844
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: Get through it, Monday Night Football. Justin Herbert, Joey Bosa

1845
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and the three and four LA Chargers head across the country.

1846
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I've met Life Stadium to face, Zach Wilson and the

1847
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: four and three New York Jets. Trevor Lawrence on the

1848
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: Manning Cast tonight, who you got in the Meadowlands Answer

1849
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the question, I'm going Jets.

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01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: I think the Jets are tough, and I think they

1851
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: play really good defense. And do I think Zach Wilson's great? No,

1852
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 2: but I'll give the kid credit. He's in the biggest

1853
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: media marketing. Everyone everyone kills them. You have national guys

1854
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: killing them, you have glocal guys killing him, and he

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01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: shows up.

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: I like the Jets.

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01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: I think they win all right.

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Speaker 1: Manning Cast, ESPN two, Trevor Lawrence the second guest to eight.

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: Whatever the game starts, ate something.

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01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: He's the second guest, the second guest.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen the Manning cast, not once.

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Speaker 1: You need to check out what channels ESPN two. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening, Tony. That's great. That's Tony l E s

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Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe. I'm J. P. Shadwick is jag Wars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. Let's do one to