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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. For the third

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Speaker 1: consecutive game, the Boston Celtics absolutely annihilated the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, this time they managed to hold on

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Speaker 1: now I see here more confident than ever that the

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Speaker 1: gonna be that difficult. It's a it's a Fox Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's not a Fox Football Saturday, but it's a Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Saturday. Hanging out. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking fits hanging out with you, coming at you

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Buck sitting there,

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Speaker 1: you know, beautiful Connecticut with the weather shine in an

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Speaker 1: outdoor little patio area. Got my feet up watching this

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Speaker 1: NBA action, and I'm surrounded by Celtics fans, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: surrounded because it's I'm up in Connecticut. I'm surrounded by

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Speaker 1: Celtics fans everywhere. And I see them go up by

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Speaker 1: do when it gets to a twenty point lead, as

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Speaker 1: you just hear this ugh, oh, this collective Oh, I

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Speaker 1: up by twenty. This never goes well. And all I

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Speaker 1: twenty yet again, and this time they never relented. This time,

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Speaker 1: the Celtics hit everything from outside is Monsey just told

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Speaker 1: you and Buck the Celtics absolutely annihilate the Knicks. And

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Speaker 1: this is where I just got to remind the world loudly.

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Speaker 1: We've seen two incredible comebacks in the first two games,

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Speaker 1: and that's great, but if you really want to look

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Speaker 1: at what the game flow has been like, the Celtics

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Speaker 1: have kicked the snot out of the Knicks in every

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Speaker 1: single matchup and I don't see why that's not going

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Speaker 1: to continue. The Celtics are clearly the better team in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, until they have another shooting night like the last

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Speaker 2: two games fit Sie like that's all it takes. It's

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Speaker 2: not an annihilation if you are as absolutely frigid as

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Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics were from three in the first two

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Speaker 2: games of this series and you go on to squander

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Speaker 2: any opportunities or any level of dominance that you had

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Speaker 2: in those games. I vehemently disagree with you. I think

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Speaker 2: New York still very much has a dog in this fight.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the Boston Celtics fans are right

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Speaker 2: to be terrified when they're up twenty points, because again,

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Speaker 2: we have watched their team fall flat on its face,

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Speaker 2: in particular when it comes to making their threes. I

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Speaker 2: know this game is a great example of that. How

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Speaker 2: much better the talent ceiling is for Boston than it

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Speaker 2: is for New York. And we understand that Jason Tatum

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Speaker 2: being able to put together a night like tonight is

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Speaker 2: critical to their success. Derek quite obviously contributing from three.

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Speaker 2: It was just a well rounded performance from Boston. But

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen them play a well rounded game until tonight. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But the counter to that, my friend, is very simple.

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Speaker 1: So the Celtics went out for the first two games

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Speaker 1: and they shot like you and I did in sixth

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Speaker 1: grade basketball. Like they shot terribly, like in that way

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Speaker 1: that like if you're in the gym, you're shooting so poorly,

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Speaker 1: you know you're never seeing the ball again. That's how

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Speaker 1: they shot in the first two games, right, And Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum melted down like I keep hearing all of the

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Speaker 1: people tell me Jason Tatum is just to Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 1: So you get the worst to Tatum, and you get

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Speaker 1: the worst of two shooting knights of the Celtics. And

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Speaker 1: you know what that got the Knicks. It got the

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Speaker 1: way back in to get a desperation. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: how do they do it? Win? So what we're really

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Speaker 1: like that. That's the real of what we're saying. That's

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Speaker 1: why I don't think there's any real chance of this. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I understand the Celtics shot poorly in those first two games,

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Speaker 1: this series is over, the Celtics are and the Celtics

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Speaker 2: What kind of nonsense to call a series over when

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Speaker 2: the team that you are declaring the series over in

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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken in favor of Boston tonight, and to

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Speaker 2: think it's a credit to the New York basketball team

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Speaker 2: inferior team. And to your point, FITSI, the better team

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Speaker 2: in basketball almost always wins. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 2: time before you let that talent take over and widen

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Speaker 2: But I mean the adjustments that we're looking for the

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Speaker 2: In particular tonight, you just have to see how New

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Speaker 2: as best they can, because it seems to me that

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Speaker 2: I mean it is. It's crazy to me how much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's all right, he's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitzber

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Speaker 1: hanging out your bucking fits hanging out on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Also walk me through again, the Jason Tatum of Kobe

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Speaker 2: Bryants of Paul george Is what the hell did you say?

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Speaker 1: Or so this is the thing in New England everyone

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Speaker 1: the middle of the road, like a star star. That's

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Speaker 1: what he is. Like it alarms me how much Celtics

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Speaker 1: he is barely removed from winning them a championship, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the guy's are pulp like and look.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to sports stalk radio because I do

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Speaker 1: and everybody says, oh, well, the Celtics need to change

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Speaker 1: way the Celtics run their offense. Like all people like,

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Speaker 1: you can't shoot that many threes, Well, that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: by a massive amount, right, because they are who they

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Speaker 1: bad matchup for the Knicks, Like you're talking about what

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Speaker 1: hit these wide open shots. That's not a path to this.

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Speaker 1: And I say the series is done because I ask

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Speaker 1: you this, my friend, if you had to, let's say,

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Speaker 1: Shay's house shape producer, Shay's doing God's work force, if

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Speaker 1: you had to bet Shay's house, I'm not gonna make

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Speaker 1: you bet your house. That's not uncomfortable enough. You bet

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Speaker 1: which means every time you see Shay you gotta be like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I lost your house and you're homeless. Man. If you

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Speaker 1: had to bet Shay's house today on an outcome in

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Speaker 1: this series, would you bet Shay's house on the Knicks

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Speaker 2: Oh, obviously the Celtics, for the same reason that everybody

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Speaker 3: Tatum about that shake out that I hate it no

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Speaker 1: Bet in my house, I guess let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Sorry Mom, Sorry mom, that on on Mother's Day Eve

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Speaker 4: of all nights, you're going to just just whittle away

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Speaker 3: This guy Bucky, he took the wrong It was a

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Speaker 2: But got some flowery, lovely car. Yeah, Rose in the back.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's it's to your to your point, fancy.

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Speaker 2: And I understand. I understand the larger theme because Jason

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Speaker 2: to this point, again, there is still tons of basketball

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Speaker 2: hope to God that the Celtics keep playing like they

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Speaker 2: have been prior to tonight as the defending NBA champions.

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Speaker 2: I just think that's kind of where New York basketball

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Speaker 1: I get it. But this is also why what's stunning

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Speaker 1: you mentioned where fans are. It's stunning to me to

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Speaker 1: listen to the way Knicks fans are chirping when they're

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Speaker 1: up to nothing, and they're chirping because they've come back.

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Speaker 1: And it's historic to see a team come back from

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Speaker 1: what we've seen. And in the process of watching that history,

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Speaker 1: that's not a method of how you're supposed to pay

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Speaker 1: first two games. They they broke, they scratch off the

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Speaker 1: lottery tickets. They win two times. That's great. You don't

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Speaker 1: Like you go in, you realize you got lucky twice.

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Speaker 1: There is a wild trend in this year's NBA Playoffs

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Speaker 2: and what if home court advantage in the NBA is

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Speaker 1: working this year. And that comes back to the fact

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Speaker 1: that the best team over the course of the regular

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Speaker 1: season doesn't mean anything. It's about who the best team

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Speaker 1: is right now as we sit. And that's why to

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Speaker 1: tie this all back to the outcome we've seen, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that there's some big advantage to Madison

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Speaker 1: Square Garden moving forward. So it doesn't matter to me

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Speaker 1: that the Celtics lost their first two games at home.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about that, because that doesn't

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Speaker 1: put them in some precarious hole. To me, I don't

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Speaker 1: look at this series any differently to nothing after two

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Speaker 1: games any of these series than I would if it

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Speaker 1: was to nothing the other way, because home court doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's a great point by you,

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Speaker 2: and certainly that should be the approach that the Celtics

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Speaker 2: take and any of the teams that we consider are

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Speaker 2: considered to truly be title contenders at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: because in these playoffs, if that trend continues, then these

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Speaker 2: teams who we think to be clearly and obviously better

453
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Speaker 2: being down in their second round series, if home court

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Speaker 2: advantage is not a strength for them at all, that

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Speaker 2: it means that they can just as easily come back.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you want to call it

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Speaker 2: stealing it from their opponents, like I don't feel I

458
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Speaker 2: don't feel like the Boston Celtics stole one from the

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Speaker 2: Knicks tonight, right, nobody does, because the Boston Celtics went

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Speaker 2: out there and just kicked the Knicks ass up and

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Speaker 2: down the court at Madison Square Garden. So it just

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Speaker 2: it's the equalization of what we believe to be happening.

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Speaker 2: It's just taken a bit of a different flavor than

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Speaker 2: I think we're used to seeing, specifically in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong, by the way. I would just say,

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Speaker 1: every once in a while, like my big brother usually

467
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Speaker 1: just kicked the snot out of me when I was

468
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Speaker 1: a kid, Every once in a while, i'd get a win.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, i'd get get one on

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Speaker 1: him like he wasn't paying attention, and I come run

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Speaker 1: into the room and hit him in the head with

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Speaker 1: the Tonka truck. Like every once in a while, I

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Speaker 1: would get that. But let me tell you something, eventually

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Speaker 1: it all normalized and I would pay for those beatings.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened today, Like the Celtics made the Knicks

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Speaker 1: pay for all of the conversation that's been happening. That's

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Speaker 1: not the only MBA action. We're going to get some

478
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Speaker 1: updates on what else is going on right now. Plus

479
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Speaker 1: after we the update, some shocking news in the NFL

480
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Speaker 1: that has ripple effects that will impact the entire NFC

481
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Speaker 1: we'll tell you about that next, but first, Mancie Belanio's

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Speaker 1: gotta get you caught up on what's going on. What's

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Speaker 1: going on, Mansie?

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Speaker 5: What's up? Guys.

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Speaker 1: We're back by popular demand. Here we are on a Saturday.

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Speaker 5: We'll start with the game that's gonna tip off in

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Speaker 5: about ten minutes or so. It's Game three between the

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Speaker 5: Warriors and the Timberwolves. Golden State leads this series two

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Speaker 5: to one. According to Shams of ESPN, Warriors believe, like

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Speaker 5: it's not official, but Warriors believe that the earliest potential

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Speaker 5: game for Steph Curry to return from that hamstring injury

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Speaker 5: is Game six. That is what they believe internally. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: there's no real history to go based off of Curry's

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Speaker 5: injury because he's never had a hamstring injury, so they

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Speaker 5: actually just don't know. He's getting a lot of treatment.

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Speaker 5: But the earliest game they think is gonna be Game six.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, tip off isn't about ten minutes or so.

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Speaker 5: The Celtics, well, their slump is over. They get their

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Speaker 5: first one of the series after outscoring the Knicks at

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Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden one fifteen to ninety three. Boston Games

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Speaker 5: one and two was twenty five of one hundred from

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Speaker 5: the three in this game that were twenty of forty,

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum hitting five of them, Peyton Pritchard hitting five

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Speaker 5: of them. In fact, Pritchard led Boston with twenty three points.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson had twenty seven points in the loss, and

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Speaker 5: Mitchell Robinson was four of twelve from the free throw line.

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Speaker 5: But we'll talk about that another day. In the NHL,

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Speaker 5: we've got Game three between the Capitals and the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 5: That series is tied at one apiece. Hurricanes are up

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Speaker 5: though three zero, seven minutes to go in the third period.

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Speaker 5: Coming up on the ice at nine Eastern. Game three

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Speaker 5: between the Golden Knights and the Oilers. Edmonton leads that

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Speaker 5: series to zero. In baseball, full slate of games, we've

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Speaker 5: got the Phillies just crushing the Guardian seven zero. Top

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Speaker 5: of the ninth inning, Bryce Harper with the two run shot.

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Speaker 5: The Rangers have hit five homers, maybe six because they've

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Speaker 5: added another run, but Corey Seeer has hit two of them,

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Speaker 5: so they're beating the Tigers eight to two. Bottom of

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Speaker 5: the eighth inning. The Red Sox with the four to

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Speaker 5: one lead over the Royals bottom of the fifth. Royals

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Speaker 5: have won seven in a row, Reds and Astros Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: up twelve to seven, top of the fourth inning. It

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Speaker 5: all started with a three run shot from Elie de

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Speaker 5: la Cruz, White Sox beating the Marlins one zero. Top

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Speaker 5: of the sixth inning, Cubs edging the Mets for to three.

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Speaker 5: Bottom up the fourth, Twins with a two to one

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Speaker 5: lead over the Giants. Bottom of the sixth about to start.

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Speaker 5: Padres had the bases loaded in the first inning, and

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Speaker 5: they're beating the Rockies five zero after the first Dodgers

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Speaker 5: in Diamondbacks scoreless bottom.

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Speaker 1: Of the second.

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Speaker 5: And even though Aaron Judge hit two homers earlier today

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Speaker 5: for the Yankees, he leads major League Baseball with fourteen.

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Speaker 5: The Yankees did lose to the A's eleven to seven,

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Speaker 5: and the Braves beat the Pirates three to two and

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Speaker 5: eleven innings and two days into his job, Don Kelly

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Speaker 5: gets ejected as a Pirates manager, So not too shabby

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Speaker 5: back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: He's probably happy he doesn't have to watch the rest

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Speaker 1: of that h.

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Speaker 2: That's a mercy ejection at this point in time for

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Speaker 2: his all.

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Speaker 1: A sudden I love the idea of just going out

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Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, you know what, we'll see you tomorrow. Guys.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna hit the shower. So thanks, Monty, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you as always. By the way, Anthony Edwards to Wolves

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Speaker 1: coach Chris Finch, hopefully as close to full go as

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Speaker 1: you can be in Game three coming off the spring

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Speaker 1: left ankle, which I don't know, man, that's a little

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Speaker 1: Peter Griffin for me. I'm just gonna be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, Peter Griffin stubs his toe and he

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Speaker 1: just lays there for like an hour on the ground

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Speaker 1: going and then right Anthony Edwards like he was laying

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Speaker 1: on the floor forever, like it was just like he

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Speaker 1: had just seen Jesus, like it was all coming to

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Speaker 1: a close, and now he's gonna be as close to

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Speaker 1: full go as you can be in Game three, Buck.

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Speaker 1: But I will also say, for the sake of you

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Speaker 1: and I being live on air for the course of

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Speaker 1: this basketball game, I'm just very glad he's playing because

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Speaker 1: without him that game, I mean, let's just be honest,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Golden State isn't moving the needle much without the

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Speaker 1: two biggest stars that they could possibly give us well.

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Speaker 2: And the thing, I mean, did you happen to catch

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Speaker 2: what Charles Barkley said after the fact. No, he very

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Speaker 2: much called out Anthony Edwards on what he believed to

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Speaker 2: have been an exaggeration of that injury. And I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at the quote here quote this is Paul Pierce, like

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Speaker 2: right here. The only thing he was missing was the wheelchair.

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Speaker 2: Now we know that there was something also famously associated

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Speaker 2: with the wheelchair situation for Paul Pierce. But that's a

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Speaker 2: pretty stinging indictment from a Hall of Famer of an

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Speaker 2: ascending Yeah, I mean he's not ascending. He has arrived.

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Speaker 2: He is an incredible star in the sport of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: But I thought that was pretty stinging commentary from Sir

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Speaker 2: Charles there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a twenty three year old beast of a player.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just remember he's twenty three years I looked

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Speaker 1: us up today and I was like, my god, I

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Speaker 1: cannot believe he's only twenty three years old. Also, the

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Speaker 1: Vegas Golden Knight's playing tonight. That'll be significant for me

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Speaker 1: only because I love that team and the absolutely broke

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Speaker 1: my heart in Game two with the overtime lost to Edmonton.

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Speaker 1: So that that doesn't feel good, Buck, but also broken

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Speaker 1: hearts today. I think for New Orleans Saints fans, he's

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Speaker 1: bucking Jason fitz By the way, you don't think so, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so at all.

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Speaker 2: Have you been on Twitter today? It's like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: respectfully to Derek Carr, who we are getting ready to

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Speaker 2: talk about and who is retired from his NFL career

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Speaker 2: after I believe eleven seasons, there seemed to be much more.

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Speaker 2: I would almost hesitate to call it celebration that the

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Speaker 2: Saints are not going to have Derek Carr at quarterback

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Speaker 2: as opposed to the opposite now. I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what the Tyler Shuck experience is going to bear out

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Speaker 2: for them, or if it's going to be anything remotely better.

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Speaker 2: The Saints are such a weird franchise and this story

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Speaker 2: is one of the most bizarre things I've honestly ever

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Speaker 2: seen in my time, coming up on a decade covering

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Speaker 2: the NFL retiring after eleven seasons, and I think Tom

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Speaker 2: Pellisero and Mike Garrifola were the first to put it

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Speaker 2: out from NFL Network. What did you make of? Though?

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Speaker 2: I guess what do you make of the situation first

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Speaker 2: and foremost, and then we can talk about the way

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Speaker 2: that the Saints are handling this entire thing before we

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Speaker 2: hear from Kellen Moore, the Saints coach.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think part of this has to be stunning

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Speaker 1: because of the time and the timing is really the

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Speaker 1: biggest key to this. And look, every grown adult that

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Speaker 1: plays a sport has the right to pick and choose

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Speaker 1: when they don't want to play that sport anymore. I'm

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Speaker 1: not here to tell somebody when they can and can't

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Speaker 1: retire from the NFL. I'm certainly not. The timing, though,

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Speaker 1: has to at least be part of the context and

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Speaker 1: conversation around doing this right now, because Kella Moore becomes coach,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden we hear the well,

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Speaker 1: the Saints didn't think he needed shoulder surgery, but he

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Speaker 1: thinks he needs shoulder surgery, he might miss the year,

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Speaker 1: Maybe things are contentious behind the scenes, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, now post draft, you get this moment where

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Speaker 1: he's decided he's stepping away. And I think post draft

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Speaker 1: is significant. Now. I will tell you I've talked to

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Speaker 1: people that were confident even leading up to the draft

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Speaker 1: that Tyler Schuck was the preferred quarterback for the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, far above somebody like Chador for example. That

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Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck was the guy that they wanted. That's been

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Speaker 1: made abundantly clear to me. So I'm confident saying they

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Speaker 1: still got the guy they wanted, But you can't tell

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Speaker 1: me that they wouldn't rethink some of their strategy. For example,

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Speaker 1: is it if you know that you don't have Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: do you do more homework on the thought of possibly

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Speaker 1: trading up for cam Ward knowing that the Titans seem

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Speaker 1: to at least leave that door open for a little while.

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Speaker 1: Are you more aggressive in the free agent market leading

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Speaker 1: up to it? Does it change the way you approach

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Speaker 1: for example, Sam Darnold, Does it change whether you become

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Speaker 1: involved in the Geno Smith conversation? Like all of these

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00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: things could have happened, but by waiting until post draft

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Speaker 1: and post free agency to do this, essentially Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: backs the team into a corner where now where they

641
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: didn't have any other options before, now they're stuck with

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Speaker 1: nothing viable looking forward to a season that looks like

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Speaker 1: it's going to be lost in New Orleans. So I

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Speaker 1: think the timing of this has to be criticized, even

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Speaker 1: if he has the right to make the decision to

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Speaker 1: step away from the game.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a completely fair criticism because of

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Speaker 2: how weird the ramp up or the lead up to

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Speaker 2: this thing was. Right. I mean, you discover and again

650
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Speaker 2: this is all according to him. We have no access

651
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Speaker 2: to his medical records or anything that so we had

652
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Speaker 2: no idea how it came about that. They actually discovered

653
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Speaker 2: this injury in late March while they're getting ready for

654
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Speaker 2: things like voluntary work and rookie mini camps all over

655
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Speaker 2: the NFL this weekend, and it was a huge blow

656
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Speaker 2: for them because it marked the first significant throwing session

657
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Speaker 2: for him since he had that left hand injury, and

658
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Speaker 2: he had a concussion last year that knocked him out

659
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Speaker 2: of the lineup. So they discover this thing in late

660
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Speaker 2: March and then it drags out the way that it does.

661
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Speaker 2: They go through the draft, they take the quarterback. Obviously

662
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Speaker 2: it would it would have affected their strategy had they

663
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Speaker 2: known that. Derek Carr's plan was probably just to hang

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Speaker 2: it up at this point in time. The surgical option,

665
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Speaker 2: it sounded like he explored a variety of different options,

666
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Speaker 2: whether it was a different kind of injections, rehabilitation surgery,

667
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Speaker 2: was obviously going to knock him out for the entire

668
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season, or had the most likely scenario

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Speaker 2: to knock him out for the entire season, And in fact,

670
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Speaker 2: Shay can we hear from Kellen Moore on this in

671
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Speaker 2: particular because the new Saints head coach former Eagles offensive

672
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Speaker 2: coordinator did speak on Derek Carr's the retirement today and spoke,

673
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Speaker 2: you know, very complimentary, but it's still a difficult position

674
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Speaker 2: to put a coach in and an organization, and especially

675
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Speaker 2: when you're a coach coming in for your first year

676
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Speaker 2: on the job. This was Kellen Moore earlier today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously, uh, you know, as we've gone through this

678
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Speaker 6: whole off season, you know, Derek, Derek's had to go

679
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Speaker 6: through a lot, just as you go through this process,

680
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Speaker 6: and you know, obviously making the decision ultimately to retire

681
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Speaker 6: from the National Football League after eleven year career. I mean,

682
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Speaker 6: first of all, you respect and appreciate so much that

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Speaker 6: Derek's done in this league and for the way he's

684
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Speaker 6: done it, the the the on the field performance, the

685
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Speaker 6: off the field person that he's he's showcased, and the

686
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Speaker 6: impact he's had on so many people in this in

687
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 6: this profession is is really really special. And so certainly,

688
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Speaker 6: you know, coming here, I've always had so much respect

689
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Speaker 6: and appreciation for him, and you know, as we've gone

690
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Speaker 6: through this process, obviously this is this is how it

691
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: kind of ultimately was was set. It was really good

692
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Speaker 6: communication through the whole process as far as navigating this again,

693
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Speaker 6: you know, challenging circumstances with him being injured at the

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Speaker 6: end of the year and then just kind of navigating

695
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Speaker 6: things throughout the whole off season process, and so you know,

696
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, Derek, the people that are part

697
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Speaker 6: of his life have communicated really well. With the Saints,

698
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Speaker 6: I think there's been really good communication. So you know,

699
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Speaker 6: we feel like it was done the right way.

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Speaker 1: He's speaking to so much of the communication right there,

701
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Speaker 1: and that may speak to some of what we just

702
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Speaker 1: talked about. Maybe the Saints had a sense that this

703
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Speaker 1: was coming, but it certainly leaves the team in a

704
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: difficult situation. Now a lot of Saints fans are going

705
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: to sit here and tell you, hey, don't worry about it.

706
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Speaker 1: We're going to turn this around and We're going to

707
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Speaker 1: just stink this year, and by stinking, we're going to

708
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Speaker 1: be just fine. Coming up, We're going to tell you

709
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Speaker 1: why I think that's a failed logic. You may think

710
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Speaker 1: that your favorite team can just suck to a quarterback

711
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Speaker 1: next year, but it's not going to be that simple.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you why next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason

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Speaker 1: Fitzberghan out on.

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Speaker 1: It's Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Saturday, coming at you

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Be sure to check

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Speaker 1: out Fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. It's a ton of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. We've been breaking down

726
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the NBA playoffs and obviously a statement

727
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: win today by the Celtics. We've got action going on

728
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: right now between Golden State, Minnesota. We'll keep you updated

729
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: on all of that. But another key piece of news

730
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Speaker 1: today was the retirement of Derek Carr, which hit many

731
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Speaker 1: people sort of out of left field. And what I

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Speaker 1: see on social media so often in these situations, and

733
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Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of it now is Saints fans

734
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Speaker 1: coming in and saying this is great because we're gonna

735
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Speaker 1: be terrible this year and we'll go get a quarterback

736
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Speaker 1: next year. Buck, I hate every answer this logic. There's

737
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Speaker 1: a couple of points why. Number One, I don't know

738
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Speaker 1: how you can assure yourself that you will outsuck the

739
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: rest of the league. Like if you look this year,

740
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Speaker 1: the number of teams that had double digit losses was

741
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: staggering me as a Raiders fan. With four weeks left

742
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: and the season looked like the Raiders had the number

743
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Speaker 1: one overall pick. In fact, going into the last week

744
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: of the season, were it not for the Patriots. The Patriots,

745
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Joe Milton goes out there, not even a Patriot anymore,

746
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: beats the Bills, who essentially play their backups, and all

747
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the entire draft order changes, Like you

748
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: can't guarantee you're gonna outsuck and then everyone says, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck for Arch Manning. What if Arch decides

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Speaker 1: to come back, What if Arch doesn't have a great

751
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: year like we've barely seen Arch play. I think all

752
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: of this logic is so flawed because you don't control

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Speaker 1: how it's all gonna play out.

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Speaker 2: And I think New Orleans would be so cognizant of that,

755
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: given what just went down to your point about Spencer

756
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: Rattler being on that roster, a guy who at one

757
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: time in his collegiate career was considered to be the

758
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: consensus number one overall pick, then gets benched at Oklahoma,

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00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: then has to transfer to South Carolina, ends up being

760
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Speaker 2: a fifth round pick of the New Orleans Saints. Then

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Speaker 2: you know, he comes in after Carr gets hurt, he

762
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: gets benched. Then Jay Hayner goes in, he gets benched.

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Speaker 2: It's just an unholy mess. You have no idea how

764
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: this entire college football season is going to play out,

765
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: so to put all of your eggs in one basket

766
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: as a fan base that way, it completely ignores the

767
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: nature of the sport, which we think we know what's

768
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: going to happen on a weekly basis. In the NFL,

769
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: and we have no earthly idea whether the Buffalo Bills

770
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: are going to decide to play any defense whatsoever against

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Speaker 2: Joe Milton in Week eighteen, because of course, the Bills

772
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Speaker 2: don't want the Patriots to have the number one overall

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Speaker 2: draft pick. So okay, let Joe go out there and

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Speaker 2: look better than he ever did at the University of

775
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Speaker 2: Tennessee and fool Jerry Jones into giving up a fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick for a guy who probably is not going

777
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: to be anything beyond a very fun developmental type of

778
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: backup quarterback type of player at this point in time. Hell,

779
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Speaker 2: as somebody who covers I'm sitting in here in Nashville.

780
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: I know you're at your place in Connecticut, and obviously

781
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio coming out of LA so we're all

782
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: over the place here as a show. But I'm here

783
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: in Nashville covering cam Ward at rookie mini camp. There's

784
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Speaker 2: a world in which cam Ward never ends up on

785
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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans because of exactly the kind of situation

786
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: that you laid out. I had no idea whether this

787
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Speaker 2: team or the team that I cover was going to

788
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 2: end up with the number one overall draft pick until

789
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Speaker 2: we saw one the Titans lose to the Texans in

790
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Speaker 2: week eighteen two. They needed Joe Milton to go out

791
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Speaker 2: there and beat the Buffalo Bills, and there were still

792
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Speaker 2: a couple of other things I think that needed to

793
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Speaker 2: happen beyond that for the Titans to secure the number

794
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Speaker 2: one overall pick. It's a total crapshoot.

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Speaker 1: And then everybody sits here and says, arch arch Arch, Now, look,

796
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Speaker 1: we all want to believe in but the romantics of.

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Speaker 2: That another manning in New Orleans. Come on, Fitzy, you

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Speaker 2: know why that's happening.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Like I tend to believe that

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian is not stupid. I just tend to believe

801
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: that he's a respected coach. Maybe you don't love Texas football,

802
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: but he's at least a respected offensive mind from most

803
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: other people. So somebody needs to explain to me why

804
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: going into the college football playoff. There were a couple

805
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: of different times late in the season and in the playoffs,

806
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: where it was abundantly clear, particularly with some of the

807
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: offensive line issues that Texas was having, that they needed

808
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: more mobility at the quarterback positioning. Quinn couldn't give them

809
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: to him. Quin Ewers couldn't give that to But did

810
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: Arch get the chance in those situations? No, not the

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00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: way anyone any of us expected. So you have Sark

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Speaker 1: here sitting with quinn Ewers, who, by the way, last

813
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: time I checked, was not a top ten draft pick

814
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: in this year's draft, but he managed to keep Arch

815
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Speaker 1: Manning on the bench all year. I don't know if

816
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: that's a statement, but I don't know if it's not

817
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: a statement, Like there's just a part of me that

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00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: sits there and says, I refuse to believe that. Sark

819
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: looked at it and said, well, my loyalty to quinn

820
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: Ewers because he's seen a lot of football, means I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to know up with the better player on the

822
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Speaker 1: field for this situation. Like they just didn't give Arch

823
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Speaker 1: even the group of special plays that we expected at

824
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Speaker 1: some point. That means something to me, like we're just

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00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: anoying Arch Manning, like he's gonna be his dad when

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Speaker 1: the fact is he has sat on the bench, he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get any real meaningful snaps for

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Speaker 1: any sustained amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Who the hell knows, Oh, you better hope he's not

830
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: like his dad, Cooper, I assume you mean like his uncles.

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Speaker 1: Sorry uncle, not as sorry about that, but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean that's does that not seem And I'm obviously in

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00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: the heart of sec country down here in Nashville, Tennessee.

834
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Speaker 2: The doesn't it seem like we do that in college

835
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: football or as a draft consuming society in the NFL

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00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: each and every year where we annoint a player as

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00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: the consensus number one overall pick. Hell, if I'm not mistaken,

838
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: there was that kind of conversation around Carson Beck prior

839
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Speaker 2: to last college football season taking place, and we all

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Speaker 2: and you know, Georgia had wide receiver issues and Carson

841
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Beck obviously did not perform up to expectation. So there's

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: a couple context matters, is my point. But we go

843
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: through this every year. When are we as a society

844
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Speaker 2: going to learn that you have to let these things

845
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Speaker 2: play out before you can have these kind of conversations.

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Speaker 2: And I know that there's always going to be the

847
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Speaker 2: level of intrigue around preseason odds and who's going to

848
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: be the Heisman Trophy winner and how those things actually

849
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: play out throughout the course of it. But this has

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Speaker 2: red flags all over it. To me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, We're gonna get you caught up on the

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00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: latest updates from the NBA. We'll do that next. He's

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Speaker 1: Buck Rising on Jason Fitz buckin Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's been a statement day in the NBA, a statement

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00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: day for the Boston Celtics as they absolutely take the

856
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: knicks behind the woodshed and slap them around at Madison

857
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Square Garden to finally get their first win in this series.

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Speaker 1: And now could a statement be made by the Minnesota

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00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Timberwolves who are up on Golden State. But statements have

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Speaker 1: already been made by Draymond Green that have me fired

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Speaker 1: up even still tonight. He's buck Rising on Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 1: We're hanging out with you, bucking Fitz, coming at you

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00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Buck, I heard

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Speaker 1: something the other day that made me mad. Now, I

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Speaker 1: understand polarizing people, and Draymond is at some point polarizing.

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Speaker 1: I understand difficult conversations, and I always acknowledge when we

867
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Speaker 1: have difficult conversations. In general, I acknowledge who I am,

868
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Speaker 1: where I'm from, and why my perspective may be different

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Speaker 1: than other people's perspectives. I think it's important anytime we

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Speaker 1: have nuanced conversations, especially when Draymond comes out and says

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Speaker 1: some things that have people fired up. I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to acknowledge, Hey, I'm a middle aged white dude,

873
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Speaker 1: right like, so I want to acknowledge I'm a middle

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Speaker 1: aged white dude having this conversation because it's not an

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Speaker 1: easy conversation to have.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into it, I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: a little bit of what Draymond said. The world heard

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Speaker 1: this after the game. His emotions were running high. Obviously,

880
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Golden State and Draymond gets it technical and everybody looks

881
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: at Raymond and the way he plays the game certain

882
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of way, and obviously people have their opinions on Draymond.

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Speaker 1: He is tired of those opinions, and he made it

884
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Speaker 1: clear this was all he had to say to the

885
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Speaker 1: reporters after the game, after the game the other night,

886
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Speaker 1: particularly about the way the media perceives him.

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Speaker 8: Check it out, it looked like the angry black man.

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Speaker 8: I'm not an angry black man. I'm a very successful,

889
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Speaker 8: educated black man with a great family, and I'm great

890
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 8: at basketball. I'm great at what I do to the

891
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Speaker 8: a gender to try to keep making me look like.

892
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Speaker 2: An angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it.

893
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Is ridiculous. Oh man, So additional context to what's happened here,

894
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Speaker 2: because I would like to let FITZI react to this. First,

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Speaker 2: there was some racially charged comments made towards him by

896
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Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves fans during the game. In fact, the team

897
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Speaker 2: put out a statement on at least one fan being

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Speaker 2: ejected quote. During the fourth quarter of last night's game

899
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Speaker 2: against the Warriors, a fan was ejected by Target Center

900
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Speaker 2: security for violating the NBA Fan Code of Conduct in

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Speaker 2: an incident involving Draymond Green. A second individual who was

902
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Speaker 2: identified by surrounding patrons as making racially charged comments towards Green,

903
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Speaker 2: left on his own before arena security could confirm his identity.

904
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Speaker 2: The team is continuing to investigate an additional action may

905
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Speaker 2: be taken, And then the Timberwolves go on to cite

906
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Speaker 2: their commitment to fostering an inclusive, respectful, and safe environment

907
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Speaker 2: and all of these kinds of things, which are of

908
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Speaker 2: course important, important and disgusting behavior by the fans. But

909
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Speaker 2: what Draymond is doing there is he's accusing the media

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Speaker 2: of painting him a certain kind of way. And that

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Speaker 2: is where I, as somebody who covers professional athletes on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis, who works in locker rooms, who does

913
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Speaker 2: the best job I can humanly possible to get too. Oh,

914
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Speaker 2: the people beyond just the player as a product of

915
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Speaker 2: being tasked with telling their stories. I just think Draymond

916
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Speaker 2: is very off base on what he is trying to project.

917
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Speaker 2: He is coming into this with his own agenda and

918
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Speaker 2: painting it as if there is an agenda against him,

919
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Speaker 2: and a lot of this offency to me and I'll

920
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Speaker 2: let you. I'll let you have the floor after this.

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Speaker 2: It's there's a lot of self inflicted wounds here with

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green that we're working through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, first and foremost, anybody that says something racially

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Speaker 1: charged a sporting event to an athlete deserves to lose

925
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Speaker 1: their right to go to that sporting event ever again.

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Speaker 1: And if you are a garbage human being and you

927
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Speaker 1: act like a garbage human being, then you deserve the

928
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Speaker 1: punishment that comes with being a garbage human being. I

929
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Speaker 1: want to say that loudly now. When Draymond says he

930
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Speaker 1: is an educated man, he is and he knows what

931
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Speaker 1: he's doing. When he has these conversations when he says

932
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Speaker 1: he's being portrayed a certain way, because what it does

933
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Speaker 1: is it creates more dialogue around how he's tree. And

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Speaker 1: I've seen some of my former coworkers at ESPN speak

935
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Speaker 1: loudly about this over and over and over again. This

936
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Speaker 1: is the thing that bothers me. Draymond's actions make him

937
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Speaker 1: seem like an angry man. That's it, just an angry man.

938
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Speaker 1: And that's the part of this context. Like you know,

939
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Speaker 1: I was lucky enough in my country music touring days

940
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Speaker 1: before I was before the band that I was ever in,

941
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Speaker 1: before the band Perry, when I was in a band

942
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Speaker 1: that nobody ever heard of. We opened for Kenny Rogers

943
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Speaker 1: for a while, and I don't know that I ever

944
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Speaker 1: learned more just sitting backstage from anybody in music than

945
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Speaker 1: I did from Kenny Rodgers. The man truly taught so

946
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Speaker 1: much like he took it. He took everybody that ever

947
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Speaker 1: toured with him under his wing. And one thing he

948
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Speaker 1: said to us, because at that time, if I'm being

949
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Speaker 1: really honest and really transparent, that band was partying way

950
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Speaker 1: too hard. We were just we were getting after it

951
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: in life, right. And I remember Kenny sitting down and said, Remember,

952
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Speaker 1: everybody says perception is reality, that's not the full scope

953
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Speaker 1: of it. You have to understand that perception is the

954
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: only reality that really matters because you helped create it

955
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Speaker 1: and now you live in it. You have to take

956
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Speaker 1: the ownership of what you helped create in the way

957
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Speaker 1: you were perceived, because now you have to live in

958
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Speaker 1: it every day. And I think about that that in

959
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Speaker 1: this situation, because when you say that you're being painted

960
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Speaker 1: a certain way, it assumes that you're being painted a

961
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Speaker 1: certain way unfairly. Draymond's actions are the reason that Draymond

962
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Speaker 1: is being perceived the way he's being perceived today. That's

963
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Speaker 1: what bothers me Buck like it is. It's his actions

964
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Speaker 1: on the court, it's his tone, it's the way that

965
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Speaker 1: he conveys himself. That is the reason that these conversations happen.

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Speaker 1: He is perceived as an angry man that happens to

967
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Speaker 1: be black, not an angry black man. And there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a substantial difference to me in the verbiage used

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Speaker 1: and the order of those words, because it matters to

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Speaker 1: how he's perceived.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing that I think he conveniently ignores

972
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Speaker 2: in the middle of that, again, an emotional response. Anybody

973
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Speaker 2: would react emotionally if they were being harassed the way

974
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Speaker 2: that I'm sure dre it's certainly not the first time

975
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Speaker 2: Draymond's had to deal with that, and at any point

976
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Speaker 2: those things can roil over and come up in ways

977
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Speaker 2: that are less than flattering. But the whole reason that

978
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Speaker 2: Draymond was in this situation is because he picked up

979
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Speaker 2: a TECH because he hit nos Reed in a face

980
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: after he got after nos Reed fouled Draymond Green. It's

981
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Speaker 2: his fifth technical foul in nine playoff games. If he

982
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Speaker 2: gets two more techs, he's up for a suspension. Again,

983
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: Like we've been through this with Draymond Green. This is

984
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: who he is as a player. He is emotional, is

985
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: he is aggressive, He is all of the things that

986
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: make him one of the primary driving engines of one

987
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: of the greatest championship caliber franchises that we've seen in

988
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: the NBA in modern history. He has a unique quality

989
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: to him that helps that team when it needs to,

990
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: but it also hurts that team when these things arise

991
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: and they have to work their way through it. And

992
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: they have deemed him, you know, throughout the course of

993
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Speaker 2: his career, and I know he's had some moments where

994
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: he looks like the Draymond Green of old. That's been

995
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: few and far between, though at this again, at this

996
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: stage of his career, I just don't I don't agree

997
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: with him on the idea that he is being painted

998
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: a certain kind of way, or at least through the

999
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Speaker 2: context that he is describing as you're saying, as an

1000
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Speaker 2: angry man first and foremost, regardless of color in this situation.

1001
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Speaker 2: And I think when you start to work race into

1002
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Speaker 2: these things, or when you force race into these things,

1003
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Speaker 2: you move away from the point of what we should

1004
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: be talking about, which is first and foremost the behavior

1005
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: of the fan, the way that those things are going

1006
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: to be handled, the way that those things are completely

1007
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: unacceptable in any way, shape or form to your point,

1008
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: the basketball second, and then Draymond Green's behavior third, he

1009
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: just so often finds a way to distract attention from

1010
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: what the actual story is around him. And that's I think.

1011
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a classic case of what he's doing

1012
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: here intentionally or not fancy, I don't know. You know,

1013
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: we can't speak for him and these emotions in real time.

1014
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: So maybe he gets up there and says, you know what,

1015
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: I got a little ahead of myself. I know that's

1016
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: not really Draymond style to get up there, and he's say, ah, yeah,

1017
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: I got a little carried away in the moment. That's

1018
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: not who he's been in his career or in his life,

1019
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: and that's probably not who he's gonna be. But I

1020
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: just I think that it completely distracts from what the

1021
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: actual story is.

1022
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Speaker 1: He's buck rising. I'm Jason fitz bucking fits on Fox

1023
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So I'll say this, and I'll say this bluntly.

1024
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick is a jerk, and I don't

1025
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: think JJ Reddick acts like a jerk a press conferences.

1026
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Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick is a jerk. I had the

1027
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Speaker 1: opportunity to work with him at ESPN. I've said this

1028
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: for a long time, Like when you do first Take,

1029
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: for example, when you're on the show First Take, you

1030
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Speaker 1: go into a production meeting early in the morning, and

1031
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: in that production meeting they run every single topic by you.

1032
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Speaker 1: How do you feel about this? How do you feel

1033
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: about this? The first time I did it, I did

1034
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Speaker 1: it with Damian Woody, for example, and every time they

1035
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: would go to Woody with the topic, he didn't like

1036
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: what he was like, I don't really have anything to

1037
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: say about that. I don't like that topic. And every

1038
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Speaker 1: single time the producers would come in and say, Okay,

1039
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Speaker 1: we've got a whole laundry list of topics. Well, let's

1040
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: find something you're hot about. So the first time I

1041
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: watched JJ Reddick sit on first take and say this

1042
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: topic is stupid and I don't know why we're talking

1043
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: about it. What JJ was doing right there was he

1044
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: was poo pooing all over everybody that works behind the

1045
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: scenes at ESPN that works really hard to put that

1046
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: show together, people that frankly have roommates because they don't

1047
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: make enough money to actually live on their own in

1048
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: Connecticut while they bust their butts trying to rise at ESPN.

1049
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: And those are the people that get yelled at by

1050
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: their bosses because, oh my god, the show just got

1051
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: trashed on air by one of the talent. How does

1052
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: this happen? JJ didn't care about that. JJ cared about

1053
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: looking like he was anti establishment and being cooler than

1054
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: everybody else, and doing it in a way that really

1055
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: degraded the hard work of a lot of people that

1056
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: work their tails off on a show that even if

1057
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: you don't like it, they work their tails off on it.

1058
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Speaker 1: To me, that was a level of disrespect I have

1059
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: never seen, ever seen from somebody on air. To sit

1060
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: on air after you were in the production meeting and

1061
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: then say that the topic is stupid is a jerk move.

1062
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Speaker 1: So I believe JJ Reddick is a jerk. I don't

1063
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Speaker 1: believe JJ Reddick is a jerk because he went to Duke.

1064
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Speaker 1: I don't believe JJ Reddick is a jerk because he's

1065
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: the coach of the Lakers. I believe JJ Reddick is

1066
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: a jerk because multiple times I've seen his actions up

1067
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: close and personal and it has made him a jerk

1068
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Speaker 1: to me. So I don't want to have to qualify

1069
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Speaker 1: whether or not JJ Reddick is a jerk when we

1070
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: have these conversations about players, coaches, media people, When we

1071
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Speaker 1: have these conversations about the people that just are polarizing,

1072
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Speaker 1: I want us to be able to have the conversation

1073
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Speaker 1: simply based on their actions. And it bothers me that

1074
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Speaker 1: we're not allowed to have that conversation now with Draymond

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Speaker 1: because he's couched it under a race conversation that is

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Speaker 1: far deeper, far heavier, far more involved than anything that

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Speaker 1: has to do with him stepping on a player on

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Speaker 1: a basketball court.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, like there's you and I are

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Speaker 2: are in a difficult position to talk about this because

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Speaker 2: neither of us are black and trying to speak on

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Speaker 2: behalf or speak talk through a topic like this where

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Speaker 2: race has been clearly pushed to the forefront, even though

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Speaker 2: it from my perspective, I don't think it has any

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00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: real business here. We may get some responses from fans

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Speaker 2: on social media that say something else or accuse us

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Speaker 2: of ignoring the facts that are clear and obvious to

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00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: them but not clear and obvious to us. So I

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that we acknowledge the blind spots

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Speaker 2: that we may or may not have. But I think

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Speaker 2: you articulated that as well as could be done. It

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Speaker 2: could possibly be done, because there are so many other

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: things that are more important than the conversation that has

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Speaker 2: been thrust upon everybody just because he happened to mention race,

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Speaker 2: and that's the disappointing part of it.

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Speaker 1: your screen. We're gonna get you caught up coming up

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Speaker 1: on the NBA action going on right now. Plus something

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Speaker 1: has happened right now that I never thought would happen.

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Speaker 1: Baseball has absolutely decimated the NFL. We'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz bucking fits

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz

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Speaker 1: hanging out with you. Minnesota up on Golden State by six,

1112
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Speaker 1: and of course the slacking. I don't think I can

1113
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Speaker 1: overstate how much of a butt hoping we saw today

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Speaker 1: from the Celtics, who decided this time to play an

1115
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Speaker 1: entire game. It's a novel concept. Do they get to

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00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: win to narrow their gap down two games to one

1117
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: now in their series against the Knicks. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: some insight on that and all things NBA playoffs. Mark

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Speaker 1: Medina joining us now I always appreciate your time. Mark,

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Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out. I feel like we're all old

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Speaker 1: friends now because every time Buck and I are together,

1122
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: you graciously give us some time, which which we appreciate.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to throw you right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the fire because I started today by saying the

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Speaker 1: Celtics are clearly dominant in this series. They've clearly just

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Speaker 1: whooped the snot out of the Knicks in every game

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Speaker 1: minus a few minutes of action, and they are clearly

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Speaker 1: the favorite moving forward. Buck says, I've gone too far.

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Speaker 1: Where where do you fall on the way this series

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Speaker 1: is played out?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm somewhere in between. As I was listening in

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Speaker 9: on your segments just a few seconds ago, I was

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Speaker 9: chuckling because your commentary on you know what a concept

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Speaker 9: what happens when the Celics actually try it reminded me

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Speaker 9: a few years ago when Greg Popovic, you know, the

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Speaker 9: the legendary Spurs coach, was talking about, you know, the

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Speaker 9: notion of importance of adjustments in between each playoff series

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Speaker 9: and he was like, yeah, how about just give a

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Speaker 9: day I'm gonna try. That's that's your adjustment. So that's

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Speaker 9: the main thing I mean the Celtics have shown that

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Speaker 9: when they put a full forty eight and they're engage in,

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Speaker 9: locked in, they can be unstoppable. And I think that

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Speaker 9: that is what we saw in the first two games,

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Speaker 9: and that was a costly thing because the Knicks are

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Speaker 9: actually a respectable team. They are a team that has

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Speaker 9: star player and depth, and they work hard and they're smart,

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Speaker 9: and so you know, a twenty game lead or a

1148
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Speaker 9: twenty point lead is not safe. So moving forward, the

1149
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Speaker 9: Knicks are still in the series. They're still in control

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Speaker 9: the series because they're up to one. So it's not guaranteed,

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Speaker 9: but if Jason Tatum plays the way he's supposed to

1152
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Speaker 9: be playing, same thing with Jalen Brown and their supporting cast,

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Speaker 9: they should be able to win this series.

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Speaker 2: At Mark g Underscore Madinas, of course, where you can

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Speaker 2: follow the great Mark Medina here with us talking a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the NBA playoffs and Mark, that's just

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Speaker 2: that's kind of how it feels, right, an almost inevitability

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Speaker 2: to your point about we know what the balt Boston

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Speaker 2: Celtics are, we know what they've been all season long.

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Speaker 2: We know that the defending champions, and we know that

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Speaker 2: their talent sailing is infinitely higher than the New York Knicks,

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Speaker 2: even though New York puts themselves in positions to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of when Boston has had some of these slumpsons,

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Speaker 2: some of these poor shooting nights at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: But it it just seems to me, in particular, that

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Speaker 2: one the impact of home court advantage in these NBA

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Speaker 2: playoffs so far has been nonexistent, and that we are

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Speaker 2: going to end up talking about the Celtics advancing no

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Speaker 2: matter how many games it takes to get there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting with these playoffs and

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Speaker 9: all the upsets. I think it shows that there's not

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Speaker 9: a predominant force. Obviously, injuries play a factory. I think

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Speaker 9: most notably when you're looking at the Cleveland Cavaliers series

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Speaker 9: against the Pacers. I mean, you can't discount injuries to

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Speaker 9: Evan Mowboy and Darius Garrow and DeAndre Hunter. Those are

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Speaker 9: game changing type injuries that play the factor in the series.

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Speaker 9: But I think when we're looking at the Celtics here, Yes,

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Speaker 9: to your point, I think they wind up winning this series.

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Speaker 9: But this is not like one of those things where

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Speaker 9: it's a top seed against an eighth seed in the

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Speaker 9: first round and they're just bored and so nowable door

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Speaker 9: going to win because again, New York is a respectable team,

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Speaker 9: and I think if it wasn't for the depth continuity

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Speaker 9: that Boston and Cleveland had, they would be a team

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Speaker 9: that would have a chance to contend for a title.

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Speaker 9: And then I think the second thing is there's always

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Speaker 9: dangers when you play around with the series because of

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Speaker 9: injuries and things like that, and they've already encountered that

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Speaker 9: with Chris Zingis being limited because of an illness that

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Speaker 9: he's been having. So what I'm getting at is that

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Speaker 9: the Celtics should win. I think they will win, but

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Speaker 9: nothing is fully guaranteed. I think that's why you know

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Speaker 9: the first two games were disappointing because they had twenty

1194
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Speaker 9: eight point leads. They could have easily put that away.

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Speaker 9: Jason Tatum did not shoot the ball well, and so

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Speaker 9: even when you put into account that, you know the

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Speaker 9: Knicks have a resilient team. Jalen Brunson is a clutch

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Speaker 9: player and their best player. The Celtics had enough talent

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Speaker 9: to be able to make this an easy series.

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Speaker 1: So Mark, why is home court advantage useless this year?

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, let's separate the Cleveland part because

1203
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 9: I think that had to do with injuries. I think

1204
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 9: the rest of the series it has to do with

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00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 9: the fact that there's not a dominant team right now.

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Speaker 9: And now when you're looking at the higher seeded teams

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Speaker 9: and the lower seeded teams, you're having a mix of

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Speaker 9: teams that have veteran players and experience and then some

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 9: that are young, up and coming, and you don't know

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Speaker 9: which team is for real. You know what it'll take.

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Speaker 9: Houston and Golden State. For example, Houston seemed on paper

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Speaker 9: to be the better team because they were one of

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Speaker 9: the best defensive teams in the league. You know, they

1214
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Speaker 9: have veteran players around their young guys. But Golden State

1215
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 9: was still healthy outside the Jimmy Butler fall, and they

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Speaker 9: have championship equity. You look at the Lakers and the Wolves,

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 9: you flip that around. The Lakers had a number of

1218
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 9: injuries and the Wolves are a respectable team. And so

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Speaker 9: what I'm getting at is I think that there's been

1220
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Speaker 9: this overlapping narratives of young teams, old teams, no one

1221
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 9: being really dominant right now, and because of that, you

1222
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 9: can really flip a coin on how the series is

1223
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 9: going to turn out. And again that's with exception to

1224
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Speaker 9: Cleveland against Indiana, because as we saw with Cleveland against Miami,

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Speaker 9: they steamrolled them. And I think if Cleveland was fully healthy,

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Speaker 9: this wouldn't be as a competitive series against the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think Mark just paying attention to what's

1228
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Speaker 2: happening in this series between Minnesota and Golden State. As

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Speaker 2: Minnesota continues to further their lead to leading Golden State

1230
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: right now by about ten in the second quarter, the

1231
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: injury factor of Steph Curry potentially not being available or

1232
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: having to wait until Game six, it seems, according to

1233
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: the most recent reports, to be able to work his

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: way back from that hamstring injury. I just don't see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, from my perspective, I'd love to know what

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Speaker 2: you feel about it. I just don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: way that Golden State is able to do this without step.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that on paper they

1239
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 9: should be able to because they got Jimmy Butler. He

1240
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 9: carried the Heat to the finals two years ago. But

1241
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 9: as we've seen and yeah, they're the Warriors, they're championship

1242
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 9: test and when Draymond Green's not getting technicals and that's

1243
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 9: in this He is still elevating their defense. But to

1244
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 9: your point, they've shown so far they're struggling to really

1245
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 9: generate offense, especially with Jimmy Butler's off the floor. And

1246
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Speaker 9: as much as a gamer Jimmy Butler is, to play

1247
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 9: him forty eight minutes for three consecutive games is going

1248
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 9: to be a tough long haul here. So adding the

1249
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 9: fact that Minnesota isn't a young isn't just a young

1250
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 9: team that seems exciting, but they're not dangerous. They are

1251
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 9: a dangerous team. They went through, you know, their playoff

1252
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 9: run and experience last year, and they took learning lessons

1253
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 9: from that and they've been able to have a full

1254
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 9: season with getting Julius Randall and Rudy Gobert on the

1255
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 9: same page here as far as chemistry goes. So it's

1256
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 9: tough flooding. Obviously, if stuff ever returns, it's a game changer,

1257
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 9: but right now it's not looking good.

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Speaker 1: Mark, as always, man, we appreciate you making yourself available

1259
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: to us, especially on busy NBA days. Follow him on

1260
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.

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Speaker 9: Mark, thanks for hanging out with us, buddy, it's always fun.

1262
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Speaker 1: It's good stuff by him and a great playoffs so

1263
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: far less than great for me. By the way, Buck,

1264
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: I maintained my professionalism. But as he was talking, Edmonton

1265
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: just scored to go up one nothing on the Golden Knights,

1266
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Speaker 1: and I blame Canada. Speaking of updates, let's get Moncey

1267
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Belangas to help me feel better about this, because she'll

1268
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: say it, and it'll feel better because she just sounds

1269
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: less on it. She speaks. Moncey, it's caught up on

1270
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: what's going on around the world. Are you at Edmonton fan? No,

1271
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Vegas colt.

1272
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Speaker 5: You're a Golden Knights fan.

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01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh right, you're in Vegas. I'm from Vegas. You're you're

1274
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: from Vegas. Hello.

1275
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Speaker 5: Sorry, it's I don't really work on Saturday nights, so

1276
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 5: as you can tell, I'm a little discombobulated myself. Listen,

1277
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 5: it's it's still halfway through the first period. Fits, so

1278
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 5: Golden Knights can pull this off. Yes, Oilers up one zero.

1279
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 5: They lead the series two zero, but plenty of game left.

1280
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Speaker 1: Don't worry.

1281
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: Don't worry.

1282
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 5: The Hurricanes did already beat the Capitals in their Game

1283
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: three four zero was a final score. Carolina leads that

1284
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: series two to one. We'll move on to the NBA

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Speaker 5: Game three between the Timberwolves and the Warriors. I haven't yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't think this is a pretty game. It hasn't

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01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 5: been the best basketball game we've seen in the NBA

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 5: thus far. Warriors had a slow start. They tied the

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 5: game to start the second quarter. Now Minnesota is back

1290
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 5: up by ten, thirty nine to twenty nine.

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: As the score.

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 5: Julius Randall the leading score for Minnesota. He's got thirteen points.

1293
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler doing what he can for the Warriors. He's

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: got eleven points. Jonathan kaminga kind of started off the

1295
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 5: same way he started off Game two. He was three

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 5: of three, then four of four. Did miss a shot finally,

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: but he's got ten points off the bench. Warriors down

1298
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 5: by ten with about five minutes to go in the

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 5: first half. The Celtics did beat the Knicks earlier today

1300
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 5: one fifteen to ninety three. They're kind of out of

1301
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 5: their shooting slump. They were twenty of forty from the three,

1302
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum hitting five them, Peyton Pritchard hitting five of them.

1303
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: Off the bench.

1304
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: Pritchard actually left or actually.

1305
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: Led Boston with twenty three points. In baseball, it's all

1306
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 5: Red Sox against the Royals right now. Royals have won

1307
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: seven in a row, but they might not win this

1308
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: when Boston is up ten to one. Bottom of the

1309
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: eighth inning, All Reds against the Astros thirteen to eight,

1310
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 5: though Houston trying to get back in it. Bottom of

1311
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 5: the sixth inning. There Marlin's on top of the White

1312
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 5: Sox three to one. Bottom of the eighth. Cubs are

1313
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 5: beating the Mets in New York four to three. Bottom

1314
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: of the seventh inning, but New York has a man

1315
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 5: on first and second. They still got two outs to go.

1316
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: The Rockies cannot score while the Padres can't stop scoring.

1317
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 5: San Diego is up fifteen to zero after four innings

1318
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 5: and the Diamondbacks are edging the Dodgers one zero top

1319
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 5: of the sixth inning. You guys talked about it, but yes.

1320
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 5: Saints quarterback Derek car announced his retirement, in large part

1321
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 5: because of a degenerative rotator cuff injury.

1322
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: In his shoulder.

1323
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 5: The team says that they are gonna have basically all

1324
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 5: three quarterbacks Rota give them each an opportunity to see

1325
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: who wins the starting job in New Orleans, and Bronco

1326
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 5: head coach Sean Payton said that linebacker Dre Greenlaw, who

1327
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 5: suffered a quad injury this offseason, is on track to

1328
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 5: be ready to be a full participant at training camp.

1329
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: Back to you guys, great stuff from Monsie as always,

1330
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: that makes you feel about it, Jason fitz fucking fits.

1331
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: It didn't make me feel better. But Edmonton cheated and

1332
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: now they've got somebody in the penalty box. So that's

1333
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: what happens when you're a cheaters. You're a big bug eater.

1334
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: So let's see I Vegas can even out the score here,

1335
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: like this is the drama of the Stanley. You don't

1336
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: know this because you're in Nashville. And let's just say

1337
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: that it was a less than stillar year for the

1338
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Predators this year.

1339
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, come on, how do I end up

1340
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: with the worst team in football as a day to

1341
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: day situation and a bottom three team in hockey that

1342
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: isn't even competent enough to do well in the draft lottery.

1343
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: They end up with the worst possible NHL draft lottery

1344
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: spot that they could have after having a retched season,

1345
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: and they're not firing anybody here. People are pissed.

1346
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stupidity of the NHL, and I'm not even

1347
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: saying this politely. The stupidity of the NHL is on

1348
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: display when you watch what other leagues do to make

1349
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: the draft a big deal and then you realize that,

1350
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: my god, it takes like thirteen people to explain how

1351
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: the NHL draft works. It's just it's maddening. But yeah,

1352
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll see. You'll hear if the Vegas Golden Knights score,

1353
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: you'll hear it. But you mentioned you're in Nashville. Something

1354
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: impossible has happened in Nashville, Tennessee. Baseball has absolutely annihilated

1355
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: the NFL Buck Rising, and that has happened by way

1356
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: of the Savannah Bananas. I can't believe I'm saying this,

1357
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: but the Savannah Bananas have done something. Everybody like you

1358
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: had been in Nissan Stadium so many times. Tell everybody

1359
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: in the world why today is particularly outrageous for baseball

1360
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: and frankly for the Titans.

1361
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: So I had no I mean, I know that the

1362
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: Savannah Bananas are a cultural phenomenon. I know that they're

1363
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: the modern day Harlem globe trotters. I know that they

1364
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: provide entertainment value that I could not possibly find from

1365
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: any Major League Baseball game anywhere in the world, regular season, postseason,

1366
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: wild card or otherwise. It's just not It's an incredibly

1367
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: creative concept from minor league which has taken the country

1368
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: by storm. Nissan Stadium here in Nashville, Tennessee, where I'm

1369
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: broadcasting from FITZI and Connecticut and the rest of the

1370
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: crew back there in La. Nissan Stadium is about a

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: seventy thousand seat venue. I have covered playoff games at

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: Nissan Stadium. I have covered regular season games at Nissan

1373
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: Stadium for the Tennessee Titans, and I very rarely, almost

1374
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: never have seen sellout crowds for the NFL football team,

1375
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: the local professional football franchise, even when they're at their

1376
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: heights with Derrick Henry and AJ Brown before they you know,

1377
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: decided to make stupid personnel decisions and give all their

1378
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: good players away to other good teams and be like

1379
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: a farm system for the NFL. I have seen them

1380
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: on a few occasions draw a crowd that does that

1381
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: stadium justice. The Savannah Bananas Fitzie have sold out Nissan

1382
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: Stadium to the point where to get in, to even

1383
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: think about getting a ticket I saw ballpark for Nosebleeds

1384
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars at Nissan Stadium tonight. It is a

1385
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: full house. They brought the entire Titans rookie class there,

1386
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: which of course includes the number one overall pick cam

1387
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: Ward coming off of rookie Mini caamp today, which I

1388
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: was at. I'm sure we'll talk a little Rooie mini

1389
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: camp at some point with everything going on around the league.

1390
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: But cam Ward comes out of the tunnel to raucous applause,

1391
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: an awesome crowd, a great environment, and my immediate thought is, Oh, no,

1392
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna have to tell him that's not what it's

1393
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: like for football here until he starts to change, until

1394
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: he starts to change some of the temperature around the

1395
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Somebody's gonna have to manage his expectations. But

1396
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: it's a crazy scene right now, just about I'd say

1397
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: about a mile and a half where I'm sitting right now,

1398
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: down down Old Broadway on Lower Broadway rather across the

1399
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: Cumberland River.

1400
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: So Hartford has a baseball minor league baseball stadium here

1401
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: that the yard Goot's playing, dun Duncan Park, and it's

1402
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: beautiful it's gorgeous. The place is actually it's tough to

1403
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: get into a lot of times, Like sales are great

1404
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: for people up here love baseball. That place is packed

1405
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: all the time. I've got some friends there from you know,

1406
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: all my years up here, and you know, usually I

1407
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: can pull some strings and call some people and say, hey,

1408
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: can I get a couple of tickets tonight. It's never

1409
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: a problem. The one time I got an immediate no

1410
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: was when the Savannah Savannah Bananas were here. And like,

1411
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: the funny thing is it is a truly a cultural phenomena.

1412
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: Like we say it's the Harlem Globetrotters, but it's far

1413
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: bigger than that. The Harlem Globetrotters aren't filling sixty thousand,

1414
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: even I don't believe at the prime we're gonna be

1415
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: filling sixty thousand, like they have built some And this

1416
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: shows the power of what TikTok and social media has

1417
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: become to all of marketing. Like this is a fake

1418
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: baseball team basically that plays against fake opponents and they

1419
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: do dance moves and have a good time. And the

1420
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: thought of seeing a baseball game in a football stadium,

1421
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: like the sitelines are gonna be terrible, but still people

1422
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: want to be in the nosebleeds of it, just to

1423
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: be in the building, like that is true phenomenon status

1424
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: And that's wild to me to think, and it just

1425
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: shows you, man, like, at some point we are such

1426
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: an entertainment based society that it's just there's got to

1427
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: be something else. You can't just rely on being great

1428
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: to sell tickets, Like the best musicians in the world

1429
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: are not going to sell as many tickets as the

1430
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 1: greatest entertainers in the world. The best sports teams in

1431
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: the world will be fine in that moment, but if

1432
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: you really want to create something that continues year in

1433
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: and year out to follow you, then you have to

1434
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: actually create this entertainment based product that is bigger than that,

1435
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: because at some point, the cost of going to these things,

1436
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: the emotional ups and downs of going to these things,

1437
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: like you're not guaranteed of a win when you buy

1438
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: a ticket, so you damn well better be guaranteed of

1439
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: entertainment because that is the thing that will keep you

1440
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: coming over and over again.

1441
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: Phrasing FITSI. I was told that by an NFL and

1442
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: that yeah, well, listen, we've we've worked ourselves through a

1443
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: couple of difficult situations here tonight. So let's not let's

1444
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: not be that. Let's not have that be the thing

1445
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: that sends us over the top. I was. I was

1446
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: talking to an NFL executive about that here today actually

1447
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: at training camp, about the idea of the entertainment value

1448
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: and how to make the product and fans offering suggestions

1449
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: about why can't NFL teams do things more creatively to

1450
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: give them a little more juice other than to just

1451
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: be content to play football, because those things will always

1452
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 2: rate well on television. But the end game experience at

1453
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 2: most NFL games, you know, there's about what twelve minutes

1454
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: of total football action in an NFL football game. The

1455
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: worst when you attend, it's just it's such a crawl

1456
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: to the finish and occasionally you get some fireworks and

1457
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: a close finish and things like that. But it's speaking

1458
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: to it, I think an evolving construct of sports fandom

1459
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: in general, where it used to just be enough to

1460
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: play the games right, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, But

1461
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 2: we are so our attention We have the attention span

1462
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: collectively of small rodents, and we like shiny things, and

1463
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: we like right colors. You are a great example of

1464
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: the bright colors and shiny things. As you sit there

1465
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: in your Connecticut studio with a wall decorated in gold

1466
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: and platinum albums and things of that nature, we are.

1467
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: It's curious to see. And I don't think there's any

1468
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: evolution coming from any major sports at that level right

1469
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: that would try to incorporate more of the kind of

1470
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: things that a product like the Savannah Bananas has been

1471
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: so successfully able to capture. But I do wonder if

1472
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: it does speak to just how sports fandom is changing

1473
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 2: in general. Where you can you can follow the NBA,

1474
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: You can be an NBA fan and not watch a

1475
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: single game on television, right You can follow it on

1476
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: social media, you can get highlights on TikTok, you can

1477
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: follow your favorite athletes and understand all the narratives. You

1478
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: can get more information about them at any point in

1479
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: time or right now than you could at any other

1480
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: point in time in sports history. And I love that

1481
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: they are succeeding as much as they are, but I

1482
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: know that somebody's going to get bird brained on it

1483
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: and just try and incorporate something that the Savannah Bananas

1484
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: are doing into one of these major league sports at

1485
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: some point, which.

1486
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: Will be just gross to watch. I mean it will.

1487
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: That being said, I do think second screen things are

1488
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: going to start coming to stadiums. They'll have to. I

1489
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: would need a second screen if I was sitting in

1490
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: Edmonton right now, because the wheelers around now up to nothing.

1491
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: I give up on hockey. I've never heard of hockey before.

1492
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: That's where I am now. I'm too heartbroken to continue.

1493
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you mentioned spectacle. The biggest spectacle in

1494
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: the NFL this year might be in Cleveland. And it

1495
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: took all of minutes for the action to start and

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: the covers. He's already there. We'll tell you about the

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Speaker 1: latest with and when we come back. He's Buck Rising.

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitzit's Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. I

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: don't know what Cleveland expected given some of their controversial

1500
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: draft decisions, but it took all of one day for

1501
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: the circus to become the main story for the Browns.

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, Fucking Fits hanging out

1503
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: with you on Fox Sports Radio. And look, there's still

1504
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: so many questions marks. I was covering the draft for

1505
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: Yahoo Live as Chador Fell and I was covering live

1506
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: as Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback was selected in the third

1507
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: round and a pick that shocked many people. And it

1508
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: shocked many people because I think there was a question

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: about would you take Shador? Are you going to take

1510
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback at all? And then also equally shocking to

1511
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: then have the same team take Shador two rounds later,

1512
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: which creates this weird situation. Where is your fifth round

1513
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: of going to beat your third rounder out? Is that

1514
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen?

1515
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 7: Like?

1516
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: Were you drafting a third rounder to be a backup?

1517
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: How are you expecting any of this to play out?

1518
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: But most importantly one thing that was said on our

1519
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: live streams by Charles Robinson, the Yahoo Sports NFL insider.

1520
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: As Shadour continued to fall, he came on our live

1521
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,440
Speaker 1: stream and said, I just talked to a team executive

1522
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: who said, now you have to ask yourself the question,

1523
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: is Shadur at this point, this late in the draft

1524
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: worth the conversations, the question the media circus that will

1525
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: follow him into your locker room wherever he's drafted. I

1526
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: think we've seen in one day that's the case, right,

1527
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 1: Because Buck, what immediately happens is I mean, it took seconds.

1528
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: It took seconds for Kevin Stefanski, the head coach of

1529
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: the Browns, to go to the podium and be asked

1530
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: why Dylan Gabriel got the first snaps, Like that's real?

1531
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: Why why did they decide Dylan Gabriel was getting the

1532
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: first snaps at rookie mini camp, Like that's outrageous.

1533
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: Act, Shay, I don't know if you have that had

1534
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: audio from Stefanski handy. In fact, can I hear Kevin

1535
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 2: Stefancy's response? It was just excellent whenever you're ready for it?

1536
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: I I he was even fielding questions today shad Or

1537
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: Sanders was about President Donald Trump ripping NFL teams on

1538
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: social media for how stupid they were for not drafting him,

1539
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: Like it goes so far and above, beyond and above

1540
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: the bounds of what the conventions of He's not even

1541
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. He's like, I mean, what is the

1542
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: Cleveland quarterback order at this point in time? We can

1543
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 2: work our way through this. But again, I wish almost

1544
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: that the audience could see Kevin Stefanski's face as he's

1545
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: being asked this question, because he just snarls up a

1546
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: bit like he smells something bad. This was the Browns

1547
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: head coach.

1548
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't look into anything. I think you'll see

1549
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: the whole weekend going through the spring. I mean, we

1550
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: don't pay too close attention to who's a Nickers.

1551
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you what do you want from me? Guys,

1552
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: come on and all of this, by the way, reeks

1553
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: of the Haslam family, Jimmy Haslam meddling around in here,

1554
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: looking around, saying, oh, we could still get your door

1555
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: Sanders in the fifth Why don't you guys take them?

1556
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: Why don't you guys put yourselves in the position to

1557
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: have to deal with this mess? And that is reckless

1558
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: speculation by me. I have no inside information on that

1559
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: particular part of it whatsoever. But the way that the

1560
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 2: Browns and I'm fascinated to hear your perspective of it,

1561
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: we probably get into it more in the final hour

1562
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: fits it. Because I had completely forgotten that you were

1563
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: covering all that live. You didn't probably get the same

1564
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: mel Kiper experience that the rest of us got throughout

1565
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: the course of the draft weekend. Almighty, But this was

1566
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: this is one of the I don't think I've seen

1567
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: a side show to this extent since Tim Tebow. I

1568
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: truly can't think of a time in the.

1569
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: NFL answer me this, because you cover the Titans. For

1570
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't know, and you have for several years,

1571
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: you have stood in these scrums. Today did this You

1572
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: literally stood there and talked to the Titans players and

1573
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 1: coaches at their mini camp. Was it not the correct

1574
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: question to be asked? How did you decide who is

1575
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: going to get first reps? And then the follow up

1576
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: question was was it based on draft status? Like aren't

1577
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: aren't those fair and reasonable questions for the people covering

1578
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: the team to be asking? Yes, so that because that's

1579
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: an important part of this, Like, this isn't a gotcha moment,

1580
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: This isn't a bunch of you know, we've become such

1581
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: a society that wants to find a reason to hate

1582
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: the media for everything.

1583
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a media's fault.

1584
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: Like it's whether it's a it's the snowflake sor it's

1585
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't care what side of this you're on. Let

1586
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: me be clear, politically, I don't care if you're on

1587
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: the left side of the right side. You've just become

1588
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: convinced that the media is biased to the other side.

1589
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: And is throttling your side down, and like that's the

1590
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: stupidity with which how we consume everything. And so now

1591
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just have to loudly point

1592
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: out Buck that these questions were not only anticipatable, We're

1593
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna use that as a new They could have been

1594
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: anticipated by the Cleveland Browns. They are the appropriate questions

1595
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: to be asked by the reporters in these situations. Like

1596
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: everybody's doing their job the right way, except for the Browns,

1597
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: who decided, you know what we need, we need more

1598
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: of a circus, like Deshaun isn't enough of a circus,

1599
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: Let's bring more in. Like that's why this feels so

1600
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: asinine to me.

1601
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: Well, and that's like, so just to run it through

1602
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: my prism, I'm covering Cam Moored, the number on two

1603
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: overall draft pick. We had a press conference with Cam today.

1604
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 2: We talked to Brian Callahan, the Titans head coach. The

1605
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: question was asked, reasonably, so is your plan not to

1606
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: start this player week one of the NFL season because

1607
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 2: you took him number one overall? And of course, for

1608
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 2: people familiar, the Will Levis experience was a disaster here,

1609
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: but they are still keeping up this conversation about quarterback competition,

1610
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: even though we all understand and they understand, that all

1611
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: of their resources have to be directed to supporting Cam

1612
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Word as the number one overall pick, because that's the

1613
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 2: logical approach. But you have a completely illogical organization in

1614
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns making the decisions that are beyond anything

1615
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: that I've ever seen, a mess entirely of their own making.

1616
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: The hardest part about all. Look right now, they have

1617
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. As an organization, they have four quarterbacks. Now,

1618
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: I've debated this with some national guys that I think

1619
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,879
Speaker 1: are smart. Everybody says, no, they're comfortable carrying four quarterbacks.

1620
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't think any team should carry four quarterbacks like

1621
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: they tried to. They tried to change the rules in

1622
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: the NFL to allow the third quarterback to be a

1623
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: roster exemption because it's so hard to get to your

1624
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: fifty three, right, Like, nobody's carrying four quarterbacks. So what

1625
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: the hell are they going to do here? And then

1626
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: how are they going to deal with this? Because it's

1627
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. We'll keep breaking it down and he's

1628
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: buck rising. I'm Jason fitz a lot to say on this,

1629
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: plus update on the NBA playoff action coming at you

1630
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: next on Fox Sports Radio. Every single day of mini camps,

1631
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: every single week of training camp, every single week of

1632
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: the regular season, there is one thing that you'll be

1633
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: able to count on in Cleveland, and that is pure

1634
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: chaos as they continue to figure out what's going on

1635
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: to the quarterback position, how it's all going to play out,

1636
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: what it all means, and the worst part of all

1637
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: of it is that the Browns have done this to

1638
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: themselves and nobody can win. He's Buck Rising on Jason

1639
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: fitz It's Bucking Fits hanging out with you on a

1640
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday. Got a lot of NBA action we've

1641
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: been talking about. Obviously, the Celtics crushed the Knicks. They

1642
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: get their first winning this series. They're now down two

1643
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: games to one. We are early in the second half

1644
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: right now Minnesota and Golden State. As you just heard

1645
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: Monci Belanias tell you, we will keep you updated on

1646
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: all of it. Got plenty to say about the NBA

1647
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: action that is going on, But we also have NFL

1648
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: rookie mini camps already in action, which means we get

1649
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: to hear from everybody. And this is the inevitability of

1650
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: hear from I don't think every player wants to be

1651
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: heard from it. I don't think and Buck Rising, we

1652
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: were just talking about this for if you don't know,

1653
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: Buck covers the Titans and has for a long time. Buck,

1654
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: let's start before we hear from these quarterbacks. Let's be clear,

1655
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: these guys half the time don't want to talk like

1656
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: they just want to go out and do their jobs,

1657
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: Like Dylan Gabriel isn't begging to go out and answer

1658
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: questions about his job and how all of this is working.

1659
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 9: Right.

1660
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: The only time they want to talk to us at

1661
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: any point in their careers is the night that they

1662
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: get drafted on these zoom calls or conference calls. That's

1663
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: the only time that they're excited to speak to the

1664
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: media because it's one of the greatest moments of their

1665
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: life and they should be excited. And that's about as

1666
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: good as the media experience will probably ever be for

1667
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: them and for us at any given point. But no,

1668
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: half the time, are you kidding me? I have had

1669
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 2: dudes run out of the locker room after games. I

1670
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: mean actually like hit a jog to avoid taking questions.

1671
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: Now you know, I've covered some bad teams. I've covered

1672
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: some good teams in my career, but I've covered some

1673
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: awful teams as well. I saw Andre Dillar got a

1674
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: job with the San Francisco forty nine ers. That is

1675
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 2: somebody who has ran away from media in the locker

1676
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: room after having terrible, terrible performances. So I would say

1677
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: less than half if I would probably put it at

1678
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: closer to five percent of the time. Are they actually

1679
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: looking forward to getting in front of a microphone at

1680
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: a podium speaking to the vultures?

1681
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: Hell? I mean you can figure this out based on

1682
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: our friendship. But as a prominent NFL player that I

1683
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: consider a close friend, and I happen to be at

1684
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: the game, a game that didn't go particularly well for

1685
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: the team that he plays on, and as he was

1686
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: running into the locker room, he just looked at me

1687
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: and said, no, And that's it. Like it's no, It's

1688
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not even talking to you right now. So

1689
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: like we just have to acknowledge. Now. Look, I say

1690
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: this because it is not Dylan Gabriel or should do

1691
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: or Sanders' fault that they are going to be answering

1692
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: questions every day, every week, every month, all year. This

1693
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere, and it already started. It started after

1694
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,440
Speaker 1: one practice. We already let you hear from Kevin Stefanski,

1695
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: coach of the Browns, when he was asked why and

1696
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: how they came to the decision that Dylan Gabriel would

1697
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: take the first snaps, Like that's how overscrutinized this will

1698
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: all be. But I want you to hear from the

1699
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks themselves, because Dylan Gabriel and should were both had

1700
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: to answer plenty of questions about what it looks like

1701
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: for them. We'll do this back to back, all right,

1702
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: so you'll hear from Dylan and you'll hear from Shud

1703
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: or check out a little bit of what they had

1704
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: to say about their process and everything that's going on

1705
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: right now.

1706
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the more questions I get asked like that,

1707
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 10: it just divides the team and and for me, I think,

1708
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 10: you know how you know, we're in a room full

1709
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 10: of not just us, but Kenny, Joe and Deshaun, and

1710
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 10: for us, you know, we we know how important a

1711
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 10: healthy qv room is, but also you know a team

1712
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 10: that you want to be a part of, you know,

1713
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 10: and how do you create an environment every single day

1714
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 10: where everyone can be at their best, and that's just

1715
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 10: pushing one another, which talent naturally does, and you know,

1716
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 10: naturally it's it's healthy, you know for us, where we

1717
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 10: all go do our thing and everyone wins.

1718
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 11: Thank you for saying that, because I don't like my job.

1719
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 11: Here is an approve people wrong, like I prove myself right.

1720
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 11: That's that's that's I and I fully self belief with

1721
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 11: those people say that's that's just their opinion. So I

1722
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 11: don't truly care. They don't really live in my mental

1723
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 11: space about that type of stuff.

1724
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:11,839
Speaker 2: Really didn't do anything for me. That last part about Schador,

1725
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: especially given the multiple reports about how blase he was

1726
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: through the draft interview process. I don't know if apathy

1727
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: is the thing that you want to be clinging to

1728
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 2: right now, if you're Chador or lack of care about anything,

1729
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: even though I understand the point that he's trying to

1730
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: get across, which is, you know, the perpetual generic cliche

1731
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: of outside noise. And that was Dylan Gabriel and Shador

1732
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 2: Sanders speaking back to back coming out of Brown's rookie

1733
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: mini camp, which of course probably neither of them are

1734
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback for this team, but they're going to

1735
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: be talked about infinitely more than Kenny Pickett or Joe

1736
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: Flack or any of these other ones. And I want

1737
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: to go back to something that Dylan Gabriel said about

1738
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: the more questions that he's asked about this, the more

1739
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: that it divides the team, And it's almost like a

1740
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: different version of well, media is making this agenda about this,

1741
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: that and the other. No, brother, your football team puts

1742
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: you in position to have to answer these questions, to

1743
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: be the subject matter of these discussions. It's not their

1744
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: fault that they got drafted where they do well. It

1745
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: might be sure to res fault a little bit that

1746
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: he got drafted where he did, but I suppose that's

1747
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 2: a conversation for another day. It is a fascinating dynamic that,

1748
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: again is completely of the Brown's own invention. And this

1749
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 2: is why bad teams stay bad, because they have created

1750
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: a level of innate toxicity that has put these two players,

1751
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: these young developmental players who it is going to be

1752
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: critical to support at every turn, they have already hamstrung

1753
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: them out of the gate. It's why I am so

1754
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: I am so impressed and yet completely perplexed by people

1755
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: like Shay, who are producing back there? Who's a diehard

1756
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: Browns fan? Why are you a fan of this team

1757
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: when they continue to do this to you over and

1758
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: over again.

1759
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean the same reason you're a fan of the Titans.

1760
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1761
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: I mean again, at this point, I ad, yeah, yeah,

1762
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: the same. It's just I've been so die hard for

1763
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 3: so long that it's like, if I give up, they win.

1764
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: You know that my friends are the winners, the ones

1765
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: that I've been saying, oh you you've never won a

1766
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 3: super Bowl. They I can't let them win. I need

1767
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 3: because I already know the men, and I say I'm done.

1768
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: With this team.

1769
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 3: That's the year they go. They go to the Super Bowl.

1770
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: So I'm not letting that. I want no reason to

1771
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 3: let that. Also, when I do win, you know how

1772
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 3: good that's.

1773
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: Going to feel. It's gonna be the most euphoric thing

1774
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: in the world for me.

1775
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: Because fans just after the World Series drunken naked in

1776
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: the streets exactly.

1777
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: So of course I'm going to be in Cleveland when

1778
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: they're like they're making their playoff.

1779
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: Run and all that.

1780
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: And of course, I mean it's crazy though, because I'm

1781
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 3: thinking about something that might not ever happen in my lifetime.

1782
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, it's like you anticipate, you know, what you'll do

1783
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: in you're seventy, Like what what are you talking?

1784
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: That's the thing that drives me as a fan, you know,

1785
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 3: and that's what drives all fans to your point exactly.

1786
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: So it's like you say why, but it's like, why

1787
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 1: do we watch sports?

1788
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 3: It's not because we enjoy, like enjoy playing that sport,

1789
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: because I don't get me wrong, I've never played football

1790
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 3: in my life and I probably sucked at it. But

1791
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 3: it's because of the fanatic nature I have around it,

1792
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 3: the feeling of I maybe we got this year or

1793
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: or we just got this draft pick, like the upside

1794
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 3: and there's always upside to it no matter what. And

1795
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 3: it's it's like almost like a it's like a little

1796
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: baby coming out. All right, I'm gonna this is gonna

1797
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,879
Speaker 3: be a weird analogy.

1798
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: And you look at that baby. Anybody on this radio

1799
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: show right now have children, we're talking about having kids,

1800
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: and you see that baby, and there's just so many

1801
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 2: possibilities with that baby.

1802
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: And every year the Browns is just that little baby

1803
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to me, And you know why I love this analogy

1804
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: by Shay because most babies are just like yours, just

1805
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: like season.

1806
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: They hit puberty and then they become the hottest person

1807
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: in the world. So it's I'm just waiting for them

1808
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 3: to hit puberty. That's what I need from the Browns.

1809
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I did it work. I thought this show couldn't get

1810
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: any did it work?

1811
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: I think it worked, though, you said you once we

1812
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: got into the puberty part of it, but you had

1813
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: you had me there had for a little bit, you know,

1814
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 2: you had listen you but you've spoken, You've spoken to

1815
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: something visceral there. Because at the end of the day,

1816
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: why to answer your question, why do we watch sports?

1817
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: We watched sports to feel, right, We watch sports to

1818
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: feel whether it's pain or joy or anger or any

1819
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: of these other things frustration. We we watch sports to

1820
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: feel things. But after I just I guess, because say,

1821
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: I fight this battle on a local level with Titans

1822
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 2: fans because I work for the flagship station here locally,

1823
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 2: I cover the team for nine years going on, and

1824
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 2: I don't have an NFL team like I don't have

1825
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: an NFL team that I root for, so it always

1826
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: gives me a little bit of, you know, a little

1827
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: bit of separation of church and State is a part

1828
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: of my job. I feel like you have to do

1829
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: that on my decid on my side of things. But

1830
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: it's good to have that reminder because a lot of

1831
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: times I forget what it is to be a fan

1832
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: because they are my job and I treat them as such.

1833
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 3: It's only sorry real quick. Buck said he's not a

1834
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 3: fan of the Titans. You're a fan of the Titans.

1835
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Hell no, No, Buck is not a fan of the Titans.

1836
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 3: Would talk about them and just I understand you work

1837
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 3: for them and all that.

1838
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: It's just no, I don't work for them. Hell no,

1839
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't work for them. Are you kidding me?

1840
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: Then why do you care so much?

1841
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, because you know, because I get paid

1842
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: very well to talk about a terrible football team, and

1843
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: I like money.

1844
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: That's okay what you're saying. Most guys they cover a

1845
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: team on a high level will always say it's better

1846
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: to cover a team that's really good than a team

1847
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that's really bad. I mean, I say this all the time.

1848
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Like I've been lucky in my career to cover a

1849
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: lot of college football. And part of the reason I

1850
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: absolutely love covering college football is because I genuinely don't

1851
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: care who wins or loses. I have no dog in

1852
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: any college football fight, so it makes Saturdays a blast

1853
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: for me. Like Saturdays are fun because I just want

1854
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: to see everybody lose their minds. But like to your question, Buck,

1855
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: the thing that I've said for years, if I could

1856
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: turn off the part of my soul that feels the Raiders,

1857
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: I would have a long time ago, Like I cannot

1858
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: help the fact as a grown ass man that, like

1859
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: when you get to Sunday's my address, it's like being

1860
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: on a roller coaster ride. Man, Like that ball goes

1861
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: in the air, like this year, when Gino Smith throws

1862
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: an inevitably incomplete thirty forty yard ball down field, I

1863
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: am going to stand up in my house and I'm

1864
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna start jumping up and down and yelling at the

1865
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: top of my lungs. And I don't know why. I

1866
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know why, Like I don't know why. I've lived

1867
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty fortunate life and I don't know why,

1868
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: Like my Monday suck when the Raiders loose, I don't

1869
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: know why. If I can turn that portion of me off,

1870
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: I would because Saturdays are more fun, Like Saturdays are

1871
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 1: more fun to say back because my team always loses.

1872
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: And the hard part about this for Browns fans is like,

1873
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Browns fans, it's not your fault that your own owner

1874
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 1: forced to John Watson to be your quarterback, and that

1875
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: put Browns fans in an unenviable position, like and it's

1876
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: not your pot guess it just it sucks to be

1877
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: a Browns fan right now.

1878
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 3: It's just, you know what, the worst thing about you're out,

1879
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: you know what, Like, sorry to interrupt you, but I

1880
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 3: just have to say this. The worst thing about him

1881
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 3: forcing Deshaun Watson on us was Kevin Stefanski having to

1882
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: come out and back every time he came out to

1883
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the press conference, He's like, yeah, he's our quarterback, he's

1884
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: a starter, I think he's going to be a great job,

1885
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and you could see it in the

1886
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 3: back of his mind. This dude does not believe what

1887
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 3: he's saying. And that was the one thing that really

1888
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: just put me over the edge. It wasn't the fact that,

1889
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: like he's getting injured, or the fact that yeah, maybe

1890
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 3: this was a bad play and yeah, like he's a

1891
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 3: bad player, but it was Kevin Stefanski.

1892
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: No it's your two time Coach of the Year being held, and.

1893
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: It's like it got to a point where I started

1894
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 3: being like, keV, What's what's going on?

1895
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Dude? Like why do you keep saying this?

1896
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: Like you come out twice if you need help?

1897
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: And he would never do that.

1898
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 3: And he never came out and said because they're not

1899
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 3: gonna fire the two time coach of the year, you

1900
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean? I mean, I don't know. Honestly,

1901
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: I don't know they fired Mike Malone.

1902
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: I think you're onto something. You're onto something like why

1903
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: didn't you come out and say something? Yeah, But the

1904
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: fact is, I think the Browns have shown you through

1905
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: their strategy and drafting and through their strategy and the

1906
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: free agency period, a team that is bad has shown

1907
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: you that they have patience to get better. I don't

1908
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 1: believe there's a single person in the building right now

1909
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: whose jobs on the line no matter what happens this year. Yeah,

1910
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I think that they which is which is Buck does

1911
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: a degree? We'll continue this. I know this is the

1912
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: raging Browns debate. You didn't know Kevin's.

1913
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 2: Find out?

1914
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Next is Kevin Stefansy on the hot seat? Also? I

1915
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 1: don't know NBA playoff action, Well, get caught up on

1916
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: that too. He's buck rising up, Jason Fitz bucking fits up,

1917
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Still not sure why Stix is catching strays?

1918
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Speaker 1: Good God, he's buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. I mean,

1919
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Speaker 1: come say that way, come all right? So I mean,

1920
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Speaker 1: I don't know how we feel about this. You can

1921
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Speaker 1: keep okay, Okay, thank you so much more of a

1922
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: damn Yankees guy than a six guy. Not that anybody

1923
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: care coming at you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1924
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Speaker 1: You are bougie. Uh And I want to get to

1925
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Speaker 1: that in a second, But first we we left with

1926
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an argument, by the way, a

1927
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Speaker 1: little bit of an argument. I have a little bit

1928
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Speaker 1: of a little bit of a tift here as we

1929
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Speaker 1: try and figure out if the Browns are actually gonna

1930
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Speaker 1: fire Stefanski.

1931
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Speaker 2: Like there's no way, because Jack would say, okay that

1932
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Speaker 2: there's no.

1933
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Speaker 1: Way, there's no ways. Knows his job is safe, like

1934
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: he's they could win two games in his job is safe.

1935
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Speaker 1: Now you say no to this? In what world? To

1936
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: where where they were homstrung? They were homes I can speak,

1937
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: they were hamstrung, hamstrung, But whatever they were tied up

1938
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Owner admitted it this offseason. They

1939
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: didn't this wasn't a good draft to address the quarterback position.

1940
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: If they are absolutely awful, you'd be giving Kevin Stefanski

1941
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 1: a noted offensive mind. He shot at an actual, real quarterback,

1942
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: even though they wasted a third and fit this year

1943
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: on the quarterback.

1944
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: So it is precious how naive the two of you

1945
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 2: are about the state of NFL ownership applying any level

1946
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: of reason or logic to the way that these people operate.

1947
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 2: The same person who gave Deshaun Watson a fully guaranteed contract.

1948
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: You're assuming that he's just gonna be like, you know

1949
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Speaker 2: what it was. I mean, I know he did it

1950
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Speaker 2: owners meetings. I was at owners meetings when he did

1951
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: it in Palm Beach saying, you know, hold me and

1952
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 2: de Haslam accountable. Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the Browns,

1953
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: talking about the Deshaun Watson situation. Okay, how are you

1954
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: going to be held accountable? Jimmy, Who's gonna hold you accountable?

1955
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Are they going to take the team away from you? No,

1956
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: you're not, Donald Sterling. Are they gonna find you? Yeah? Probably?

1957
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: But who you clearly don't care about that. You just

1958
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: gave Deshaun Watson two hundred and forty million dollars. If

1959
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: they keep losing football games, who's to say that Jimmy

1960
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: has them doesn't turn around and be like, yeah, we

1961
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: should probably do something else. I literally have watched an

1962
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 2: NFL franchise, the one that I covered, do it for

1963
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: three straight off seasons, even though it makes absolutely no

1964
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 2: damn sense based on the things that they said before

1965
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 2: the season started. It's precious the two are you really?

1966
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Speaker 1: But if they were gonna fire him, they would have

1967
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: done it this year. Why keep him for another season?

1968
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 2: If they were gonna fire Matty Eberfluso of the Bears

1969
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: before last season two? And they let that thing linger

1970
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: on the vine entirely too long. Again, logic and reason

1971
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: does not apply to the billionaires. I feel like we

1972
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: should understand this as a country at this point in time.

1973
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Speaker 1: Well that's still billionaires. Go ahead.

1974
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Speaker 3: This is like I know, I just said, I'm with

1975
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Speaker 3: the Browns no matter what. This is probably the one

1976
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 3: thing if he was to get fired that would make

1977
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 3: me stop watching the Browns. And I'm pretty sure a

1978
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 3: lot of Browns fans would agree with me here that

1979
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 3: if you get rid of the one highlight other than

1980
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett on the Browns like what he is not

1981
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 3: I mean, Hashim is pretty dumb, but he's not that

1982
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Speaker 3: dumb to do something like this.

1983
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Speaker 1: And it just doesn't make sense.

1984
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: Like say, none of it makes sense. None of these

1985
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: makes sense. Jerry Jones doesn't make any damn sense. There

1986
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 2: are so many examples of this all over the NFL.

1987
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: I mean, FITZI is a fan of the team ran

1988
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: by Al Davis for a billion years. Half of the

1989
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: stuff that they did almost said a bad word on

1990
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 2: the microphone that would have been terrible. Half of the

1991
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: stuff that they did has made no sense at any

1992
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Speaker 2: point in time. FITZI, is there an organization more lost

1993
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 2: in the wilderness in the last ten to fifteen years

1994
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 2: than your Oakland Slash Las Vegas Raiders.

1995
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Speaker 1: No, And look, this is the most helpless feeling in

1996
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: all of sports. And genuinely, to tie this into every

1997
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: single person listening right now, what do you do when

1998
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: your favorite team's owner is an idiot? Because this is

1999
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: the one thing that like if you hate a local,

2000
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: like give you your favorite restaurant suddenly goes downhill you

2001
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 1: stop going to the restaurant, and yeah, every time you

2002
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: drive by, you think, man, I missed the good old

2003
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: days when I love that restaurant. Right, sure you have that,

2004
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: but you don't have like that's your recourse just to

2005
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: stop going. That recourse isn't realistic for most fans because,

2006
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: as we were talking about earlier, there just becomes something

2007
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: tied into your soul for the team that you root for.

2008
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: So what do you do when your favorite team is

2009
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 1: run by somebody that, when it comes to sports, is incompetent?

2010
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: What do you do when your favorite team is run

2011
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: by somebody that is not good at identifying talent, whether

2012
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: it's talent and playing or talent running an organization? Like,

2013
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: what do you do when your favorite team has shown

2014
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 1: the colors of who they are? Like you mentioned Jerry Jones,

2015
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has shown exactly who he is as an owner.

2016
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: He is an owner will hire gentlemen to be coaches

2017
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: that are gonna be good but not great, Like that's

2018
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: just who he is, right, So your team's never gonna suck,

2019
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: but your team's never gonna be great because that's who

2020
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is, Right, What do you do if you're

2021
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: a Browns fan and the Hasms are terrible? What do

2022
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: you do if you're a Knicks fan and you realize that, like,

2023
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: all right, there's always a ceiling to James Tolen, Right, Like,

2024
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: what do you do if you're a Raiders fan and

2025
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: you realize that Mark Davis just isn't particularly a sharp

2026
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: dude when it comes to actually bringing in football. People

2027
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: like Andy try, they try over and over and over again,

2028
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: but whatever they try just doesn't work. And the hardest

2029
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: thing in sports isn't watching your team be bad. The

2030
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: hardest thing you can live with in sports is realizing

2031
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: that your favorite team is owned by somebody that just

2032
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: isn't capable of turning a franchise around.

2033
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 2: I'll I'll tell you exactly what you do. This is

2034
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 2: what every sports fan should do. You should take a

2035
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 2: little bit of sports talk radio therapy. And you can

2036
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: even do that on demand because shortly after the show,

2037
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any

2038
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast.

2039
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast,

2040
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 2: and be sure to follow and review the podcast and

2041
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: rated five stars. We love five stars. Four stars. I

2042
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: think Bomani Jones used to say, four stars if you're

2043
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 2: a hater is always a good line. Again, just search

2044
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll

2045
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: see today's show posted right after we get off the air. Yeah,

2046
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 2: that's all you can do. You can call into your

2047
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: local sports talk radio station. You can call Fox Sports

2048
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 2: Radio and vent about your teams. That's really the only

2049
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 2: thing that you do. You can take to Twitter and

2050
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: hope to God you don't tweet something that's gonna get

2051
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: you fired after the fact, and hope you're not ineborated

2052
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 2: watching your team while you do it. It is a

2053
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: state of perpetual discomfort as sports fans, because there are

2054
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: so many things about what the two of you have

2055
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: articulated about why it would make absolutely no sense to

2056
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 2: fire fire Kevin Stefanski whatsoever, come what may this season.

2057
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 2: And yet I cover an erratic owner who has fired

2058
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 2: four straight or I guess three straight heads of state

2059
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: for the local professional football team, the Tennessee Titans, for

2060
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 2: me here in Nashville, because her record wasn't good enough

2061
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: and they told her it was going to be better.

2062
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: And that's just how she goes about it, goes about it,

2063
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 2: and that's just what they get to do, because these

2064
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: are playthings for billionaires. These are toys. This is their sandbox,

2065
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: and we are just little figurines drowning in quicksand in

2066
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: the middle of it, trying to enjoy or cover our

2067
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 2: favorite sports teams. It's a brutal existence.

2068
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say as a Raiders fan Mark Davis,

2069
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: I understand the map of why he hired John Gruden.

2070
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: He thought he was doing something revolutionary. Even I understand

2071
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: the math of why he hired as much as it

2072
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: turned out to be terrible Josh McDaniels right like, he

2073
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: didn't expect to be back in the market and replaced

2074
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: him with somebody that was at the time coveted by

2075
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: multiple organizations, even though the guy certainly is not capable

2076
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: of running a franchise. I understand why he kept the

2077
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: last coach, frankly, because you sit here and say, you know,

2078
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: if you're looking at Antonio Pierce, you're like, well, the

2079
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 1: players seem to love him, everybody wants him. That's what

2080
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the team wants to do. We'll do Like, I understand

2081
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: the math on all of it, and every single one

2082
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: of those decisions has been stupid. When you look back

2083
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: at it now, every one of them has just been awful.

2084
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Like, if you're a Titans fan,

2085
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: you look around and you realize that maybe you hit

2086
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: the life lottery and cam Ward is going to turn

2087
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: out to be incredible. But at the end of the day,

2088
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: like everybody looks at the Texans model, they didn't sell

2089
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: their team like Washington sold their team. The Texans didn't

2090
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: sell their team. They just finally got lucky with the

2091
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,040
Speaker 1: coach and a quarterback. That's all we can do. I

2092
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: hope that our favorite billionaire gets lucky. That's all we

2093
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: can hope for.

2094
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got lucky because the Browns billionaire was

2095
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 2: stupid in the way that they gave up assets as

2096
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,839
Speaker 2: many assets as they did to acquire to Shaun Watson

2097
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: then pay him two hundred and forty million dollars. So

2098
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: you had to have some stupidity along the way for

2099
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 2: another billionaire to get lucky that way. Because to your point,

2100
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: the Texans are one of the worst worst run organizations

2101
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: in sports, and they've got a nice young quarterback to

2102
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 2: cover up all of it.

2103
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: Now that it's a season of lights and hope, that's

2104
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 1: what We're giving everybody the off season. Kids, off season,

2105
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: Manzi Blagias, give us a little bit of hope. Tell

2106
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: me what's going on in I turned the Vegas Golden

2107
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Knights came off because I just need too much stress.

2108
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Speaker 1: You turned it off. No, turn it back on, turn

2109
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Speaker 1: it back on.

2110
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Speaker 5: I told you there was plenty of time left in

2111
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Speaker 5: Vegas actually tied the game, scoring within four minutes of

2112
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 5: each other. It's still tied. Golden Knights and Oilers tied

2113
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Speaker 5: it to a piece with about eight minutes to go

2114
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 5: in a second period, Edmonton Dusley's years two zero, but

2115
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 5: again Golden Knights tied it up, so plenty of game left.

2116
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 5: The Hurricanes dished up the Capitol's earlier four zero on

2117
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Speaker 5: the ice.

2118
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 1: Carolina leads that series two to one.

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Speaker 5: In the NBA, Jonathan Kaminga thinks he is Anthony Edwards

2120
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell right now, I don't know who he is channeling,

2121
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 5: but Jonathan Kaminga off the bench for the Warriors seven

2122
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,879
Speaker 5: of ten, He's got seventeen points, five rebounds.

2123
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, playoff, Jimmy. That is a real thing, you guys.

2124
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 5: And he is literally proving.

2125
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 3: That drives on go beert bags, Amile the way goes

2126
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 3: up left hand and scored.

2127
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Speaker 1: Heck, God found Jimmy Buckets. You heard it all on

2128
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 1: the Game Warriors radio network.

2129
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Speaker 5: They are up on Minnesota right now, sixty seven to

2130
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 5: sixty two with two minutes to go in the third quarter.

2131
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 5: Butler up to twenty eight points, seven assists, and five

2132
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 5: rebounds in this Game three. I also think Anthony Edwards

2133
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 5: ankle injury might be more serious than they're telling us.

2134
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 5: He seems to be struggling. He is seven of nineteen,

2135
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 5: one of eight from the three. He does have eighteen points, three,

2136
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 5: three rebounds, and three assists, but he's definitely struggling a

2137
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 5: little bit.

2138
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: The Celtics have won one.

2139
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 5: They beat the Knicks earlier today one fifteen to ninety

2140
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 5: three in their Game three, and Boston shot the three

2141
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 5: way better than they had the first two games. They

2142
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 5: were twenty of forty from the three. Jason Tatum hit

2143
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 5: five of them, beating Pritchard off the bench hit another five.

2144
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 5: He led Boston with twenty three points. Jalen Brunson for

2145
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 5: Ney York had twenty seven points.

2146
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: In the loss.

2147
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 5: In baseball, this is not a typo. The Padres have

2148
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 5: scored twenty runs. Twenty runs against the Rockies. It is

2149
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 5: twenty to zero, bottom of the seventh inning about to

2150
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 5: start in Colorado. Colorado is having a rough start to

2151
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 5: the season, but I feel like this is not what

2152
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,919
Speaker 5: they wanted. The Red still on top of the Astros

2153
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 5: thirteen to a bottom of the ninth inning about to

2154
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 5: start in Houston. The Diamondbacks have added another run against

2155
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 5: the Dodgers, three zero in Arizona.

2156
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: Bottom of the eighth.

2157
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 5: The Angels have a two zero lead over the Orioles

2158
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 5: at home. It's the top of the third inning. Roddy

2159
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 5: to Les with the solo shot for the Mas and

2160
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 5: they're up on the Blue Jays one zero after three innings.

2161
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 5: Earlier today, Aaron Judge homer twice, but it was not enough.

2162
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 5: The A's outscored the Yankees eleven to seven, but Aaron

2163
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 5: Judge does lead the Majors with fourteen homers so far.

2164
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 5: The Red Sox snapped the Royals seven game winning streak,

2165
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,839
Speaker 5: coming out on top ten to one, while the Rangers

2166
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 5: defeated the Tigers ten to three, snapping Detroit's five game

2167
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 5: winning streak.

2168
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, I refuse to believe that's a

2169
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,520
Speaker 2: real scoreing.

2170
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 5: N to nothing, setto big fat zero the box score

2171
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 5: their hits. They've had twenty two, twenty four hits compared

2172
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 5: to four hits from Colorado.

2173
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 2: I know you, guys, it's so bad, so bad.

2174
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 5: I feel like they're ready to call it twenty one guys.

2175
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh, it's twenty one zero the pro rule.

2176
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, twenty one zero, bottom of the eighth inning.

2177
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: If that continues to be a football, if we get

2178
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: any more football scoring on it, Monzi, please cut in

2179
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 1: immediate shocks when it's twenty eight thirty five to nothing.

2180
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: This is what we're going for, and I always appreciate it.

2181
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: And Golden State up sixty seven sixty four on Minnesota

2182
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: as we sit right now, she mentioned playoff. Jimmy, I

2183
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 1: just think we should acknowledge that. I mean, come on,

2184
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: buck Like, I'm not a big legacy guy. I'm not

2185
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: a big like ha man and any of those stupid

2186
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore type conversations. Those are all dead to me.

2187
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: But I do think there is some element here of

2188
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: if Jimmy Butler is able to keep Golden State in

2189
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: this thing, then we got to at least step back

2190
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: and take a tip of the cap to this, because

2191
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to leave Golden State left for dead in

2192
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: this game, in this series without obviously without Steph until

2193
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: at least game six. But man, this would be a

2194
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: pretty epic fail by the Timberwolves to not be able

2195
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: to take advantage of it.

2196
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, depending on the severity of Anthony Edward's injury.

2197
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 2: That's something worth monitoring too, as we hope that there

2198
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 2: are no more further injuries that impact these NBA playoffs.

2199
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 2: But to your point about Jimmy Butler, I don't know

2200
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: if see like he does this all the time. He

2201
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 2: literally dragged Miami Heat teams kicking and screaming damn near

2202
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals, but he comes up short like

2203
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 2: he's he is a spectacular player. Playoff Jimmy, Jimmy buckets

2204
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 2: like the play of the Warriors play by play guy

2205
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 2: just said like this, this is a real thing, and

2206
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: he has these moments, but at the end of the day,

2207
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: he's just not He himself is not enough, even if

2208
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: he does things to keep his team in close games.

2209
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: He's always been that guy and he's difficult to work with,

2210
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: which is why I think that that dynamic in Golden

2211
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 2: State has to be fascinating as it continues to play out,

2212
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: especially with the kind of combustive elements that they have

2213
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: in that dressing room with Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler

2214
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 2: and Steve Kurran. Obviously they're awaiting Steph Curry's return from

2215
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 2: this hamstring injury. Very unfortunate that that is the case.

2216
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 2: But I don't really think the conversation has to change

2217
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: around Jimmy has to win something of consequence for the

2218
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 2: conversation to change around Jimmy Butler.

2219
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, I understand, I get that to a certain level.

2220
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: I just think to even keep them in this is

2221
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: pretty astounding. Also, this game is turned into really a

2222
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 1: two on two matchup wildly and interestingly to me, because

2223
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: what you've got on one side, you've got again Jimmy

2224
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: Butler at this point with twenty eight, Kamingo with twenty

2225
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: so forty eight of the Warriors seventy three points. But

2226
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: conversely Anthony Edwards with twenty three and Julius Randall with twenty.

2227
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: Each team has two guys that are dominating and nobody

2228
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: else in even double digits and across the board. It's

2229
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: wild how this game has just turned into a two

2230
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: on two matchup at some point, so obviously we'll keep

2231
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 1: all eyes on. And home court does look electric there.

2232
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's anything we've learned, Minnesota's going to

2233
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: win this game because home court doesn't matter. But home

2234
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: court is electric right now. Golden State is absolutely fired

2235
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:49,799
Speaker 1: up as we would expect.

2236
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: That's the closest thing that I think the NBA had,

2237
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: or at least the Old Oracle Arena that the NBA

2238
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 2: had to like a college basketball atmosphere, like when that

2239
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 2: place is at its peak. And they've obviously had some

2240
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: awesome teams and some incredible moments and some spectacular things

2241
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: that you'll never see in a thousand more basketball games

2242
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 2: after Steph Curry retires, because he is one of the

2243
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: most gifted athletes we've ever seen. But it is it's

2244
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: always a unique experience. It's such a great crowd, and

2245
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that at least somebody has a

2246
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 2: home court advantage because I mean Madison Square Gardener earlier

2247
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: today it felt like a cemetery.

2248
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Man.

2249
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: There was a couple of moments where they tried the

2250
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: let's go next chance and then they're down thirty one,

2251
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: and then they get it back to within twenty again,

2252
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 2: and they're trying to bring the Knicks back or trying

2253
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: to manifest something into existence. But as we talked about,

2254
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: and I believe the first hour of tonight's show, it

2255
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 2: is just it's not been a playoff. It's not been

2256
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 2: a favorable playoff situation for the home team at any point.

2257
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Just barely over five hundred for home teams in this

2258
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: NBA postseason so far this year.

2259
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, by the way, look maybe this is my

2260
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: damage fan syndrome. We need to come up with like

2261
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 1: a whole thing for this damaged fans syndrome.

2262
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 2: Is well, buddy, I've covered the Tennessee Volunteers art part time.

2263
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: We call that bvs. Battered ball syndrome. You can come

2264
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: up with that your onn Ackron. I'm sure we got

2265
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 2: one for Shay too at some point.

2266
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Like here's the thing that I don't like. I don't

2267
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: like anybody that gets too high after any win when

2268
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: you know that your team got lucky to get there,

2269
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: Like unless it's Game seven, you give me a game

2270
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 1: seven win that you didn't have coming, then yeah, go

2271
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: talk your talk because it's over. I am still stunned

2272
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: as we sit here to think back to the reaction

2273
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: of Knicks fans after the last win over the Celtics,

2274
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: when you know that you've gotten your ass whipped in

2275
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: both of the first two games, but somehow miraculously you

2276
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: got to win and to go out and talk the

2277
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 1: way you talked after that when you know that like

2278
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: this is the karate kid thing, like you got your

2279
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: butts kicked and all of a sudden you got one

2280
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,560
Speaker 1: lucky crane kick and suddenly the match is over. I

2281
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: don't know that i'd talk my talk, especially because now

2282
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: that this series went back to the Garden, all those

2283
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: Knicks fans that were outside New York and just like

2284
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: yeah and screaming and dancing around, like they all look

2285
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: kind of stupid after you had your chance in the

2286
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: Garden and you just got walloped. I mean, I cannot

2287
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: say strongly enough how much the Knicks got embarrassed on

2288
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 1: their home court by the Celtics today. And I just

2289
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: got to feel like if you were, if you were

2290
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: a Knicks fan that was talking you talked the last

2291
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: couple of games, you deserve to eat a little crow today,

2292
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Like this is a helping heap, being like crow with

2293
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of side a butter.

2294
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 2: Are are you expecting New York sports fans to be

2295
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 2: realistic and nuanced about their situation? You You have been

2296
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 2: working in this industry entirely too long to think that's

2297
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 2: a reasonable position to take.

2298
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: That is you are, you have You're a thousand percent right.

2299
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 1: And I've always said one of the charming let's say

2300
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: charming things about New York sports fans and even being

2301
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: an athlete New York. One thing I've always argued that is,

2302
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, we sit in there and say everybody should

2303
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: want to play for the Knicks. Okay, well, there are

2304
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: very few teams in any sport in the world where

2305
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: if you have a bad game and you walk in

2306
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: to get a slice the next day, the local pizza

2307
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: guy is going to remind you that you did not

2308
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: play well enough. New York is one of those. Like

2309
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: so they certainly will let every single player on the

2310
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: court know if they weren't happy. They'll also let the

2311
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: whole world know when they are happy. Like there is

2312
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: no but I do feel And tell me if you

2313
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: agree with this book, I think the sky is falling.

2314
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Side of Knicks fans will come out

2315
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: if they lose the next game. If we're all of

2316
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: a sudden two to two in this thing after two

2317
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: losses in the Garden, any reasonable approach of the conversation

2318
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: of where this series is gone will be completely out

2319
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: the window.

2320
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:36,640
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, absolutely, because that's what they are expecting. That

2321
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 2: there's some part of them. There's a lot of bluster,

2322
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of you know, there's a lot of hype,

2323
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk, understandably so, especially in that

2324
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 2: part of the country. But if you are, if you

2325
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 2: are paying close enough attention to this series, and if

2326
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: you have paid attention to who the Boston Celtics are

2327
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 2: when they are on, then you know that it is

2328
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 2: an inevitability that Boston is going to roll through the

2329
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: New York Knicks at some point in time. You have

2330
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 2: just been waiting for that moment. Jason Tatum basically said

2331
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 2: it tonight, where they're just waiting for them to start

2332
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 2: to click the way that they expected Doe Now. Mark Medena,

2333
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,719
Speaker 2: who was on with us earlier, chalked it up to effort.

2334
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,600
Speaker 2: I know Boston fans have been hyper critical of the

2335
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 2: level of effort that was shown in the first two

2336
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: games with and especially for how awful they're three point

2337
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: shooting percentage situation was in games one, in game two,

2338
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 2: and just able to make their shots tonight and look

2339
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 2: like a competent basketball team for forty eight minutes. I

2340
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: think New York fans it's probably already started, Like it's

2341
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: been enough time since the game ended that they've they've

2342
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 2: worked their way through that first phase of denial. As

2343
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 2: a sports fan, we're like, all right, it's gonna be okay.

2344
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 2: We had to get that one off our chest. The

2345
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 2: boys will bounce back. Everything's good. Next, Let's go next,

2346
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 2: the whole way through, And then as the hours passes

2347
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 2: you have more time to sit and ruminate on it

2348
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 2: a little longer, you're like, damn, I hope Jason Tatum

2349
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 2: didn't have another night like he was last night. Oh

2350
01:51:58,680 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 2: my god, he's coming for us.

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, They're is. Look. I think there's one

2352
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 1: thing we can all agree on. The Celtics Knicks is

2353
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: really a matchup of the two most delusional fan bases

2354
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: in all of sports. That's really what we got from

2355
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: both sides of it, all right, speaking of would you

2356
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 1: rather be a Knicks fan or a Celtics fan? Right now?

2357
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Coming off next America's Favorite Game Show? Would you rather

2358
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 1: Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio? Got to give a

2359
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: quick shout out to Shay Mary Mancy everybody behind the scenes.

2360
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: They they're They're really the the important part. They're the

2361
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 1: gas behind all of this that's happening. So I couldn't

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01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 1: do this show without them, obviously, he's Buck rising on

2363
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 1: Jason Fitz bucking Fits hanging out on Fox Sports Radio.

2364
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that get a shout out deservedly

2365
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 2: better at their jobs than I am of mine. But

2366
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that was hurtful.

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01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 1: You and I had like that was I was shouting

2368
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: them out on behalf of both of us. You absolutely,

2369
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: like what what you grown up?

2370
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know you. I don't need you shouting out

2371
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 2: people for me.

2372
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, this is you know what I need, notible, That's

2373
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Okay, are you ready? Are you ready?

2374
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: Book to Play? America's Favorite game show? Are you ready

2375
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: for this?

2376
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 2: Are we doing it?

2377
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: Let's do it? Yeah, We're gonna do this. We're gonna

2378
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: say it together.

2379
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 9: Right.

2380
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: The name of the game is Ready. Wood always messes

2381
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: it up. We read book. Let the stager go.

2382
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 3: Buck, I made a nice stager talking over it. You

2383
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 3: messed up the intro to let's do what professional, Let's

2384
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 3: do this. It's the game where I give the guys

2385
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,839
Speaker 3: different Would you rather is this one's gonna be a little.

2386
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 1: Different, a little more fun? So pissed at me, He's like,

2387
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,040
Speaker 1: he thanked me, and then you didn't let my works.

2388
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 2: Literally three different times he told us, lay out, there's

2389
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: a stage of these idiots, not just railroad right through it.

2390
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,879
Speaker 2: Would you rather all right, I'm trying, Bud, I'm drying.

2391
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 1: All right.

2392
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,799
Speaker 3: Would you rather randomly move like a cow in public

2393
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 3: once a day or randomly yell I love pickles during

2394
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 3: serious conversations, Jason, Let's start with you.

2395
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go moo like a cow because

2396
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: even though that gets you stared at, what I'm imagining

2397
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: is that you're sitting in with your boss and you're

2398
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: having like a big conversation about the future of your employment,

2399
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: and you just accidentally scream I love pickles in the

2400
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: middle of that. I think that's probably bad, but I

2401
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: also kind of love that, Like it's a I don't know,

2402
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go moo like a cow.

2403
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Book I do the I love pickles. Thing like, randomly,

2404
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 2: I do love pickles. I'll lead them out of the

2405
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 2: little packages. I like the pickle juice they have, Like

2406
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 2: the pickle juice. That's good for you as far as

2407
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 2: the rehydration part of it. So I'm just I'm saying

2408
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 2: that anyway, you know, the move thing to be be

2409
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 2: some kind of brain tick. I'm not sure what would happen.

2410
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but all I'm saying. All I'm saying, though, Buck,

2411
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: is I imagine that you just finished, you know, maybe

2412
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: the hibbittidibity with a young lady, right, and then she's

2413
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: looking at you. She's like, Buck, I just want to

2414
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: know where this is going, and You're like, I like pickles.

2415
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean you really want that.

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01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 2: It's better. It's better than having the are we gonna cuddle? Conversations?

2417
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 2: So I'd rather just yell, I'd rather go with the pickles.

2418
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Are we gonna cuddle? Okay? Go ahead, shake o higg.

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01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: You've tried many a time, Not today, big boy.

2420
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah one day, one day. I want to be big

2421
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: spoon one day. Would you please move on?

2422
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 2: Guys?

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01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 3: Would you rather have hiccups every time you laugh? Or

2424
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 3: sneeze every time you blink.

2425
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I like this one. This was a good one.

2426
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 2: So would you rather have hiccups every time you want hiccups? Suck?

2427
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 2: I get hiccups. So I love spicy food. But I

2429
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 2: am so damn sensitive as far as what happens to

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01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: my body when I eat spicy food that I immediately

2431
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: start to hiccup. And I don't know about y'all, but

2432
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 2: like my hiccup's hurt. It's like from like as if

2433
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: as if you've ever seen the movie Alien, It's like

2434
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 2: the creature from Alien is merging from my chest when

2435
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 2: I hiccup, like it feels like something's trying to bust

2436
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 2: out of there.

2437
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: So let me tell you this, though, you just blinked

2438
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: like ten times right there. That's ten sneezes.

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01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to get back in a conversation

2440
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 2: you're trying to steer us out of. But apparently eight

2441
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 2: sneeze isn't supposed to equate to something. You know, that's

2442
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 2: quite nice.

2443
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I'm gonna go figure out these eight times. Look,

2444
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: but here's the flip side of it. Here's the flip

2445
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: side of it. I can not laugh like there. It's

2446
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: easy for me to just be like life is not

2447
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: going to be funny anymore. I'm not gonna laugh right

2448
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: like so I just reached.

2449
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 2: Right.

2450
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it. I would rather hiccup when I

2451
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 1: laugh because I will just control my laughter and not

2452
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: give the world that joy. And no more laughs, no

2453
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: more hiccups. Also, I'm in the opposite world of view

2454
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: my friend. No spicy food for me, but I gotta.

2455
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 1: It's not because of my stomach or my butt. It's

2456
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: my mouth. My mouth gets on fire. The rest of

2457
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: me's fine, Like I can internalize it once I get

2458
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: it in my body, but it's just man, the fire

2459
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 1: in my mouth. I don't want Shaye give us another one.

2460
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 3: Would you rather always get stuck behind slow walkers or

2461
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 3: always hit every red light while driving?

2462
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 2: Fuck? Would I to say it again?

2463
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 3: Would you rather get stuck behind a slow walker or

2464
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 3: hit every red light while driving?

2465
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

2466
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Red light? Slow walkers make me insane? If you are

2467
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 2: going somewhere, go with the purpose, okay. The only worst

2468
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 2: person that does not walk with purpose and causes side

2469
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 2: effects for everybody else involved is the person who is

2470
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: getting off of an airplane coming off of the jet

2471
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 2: bridge and just stops like right in front of the

2472
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 2: jet bridge, as if there's not fifty more people behind you.

2473
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 2: Try to get the hell off this plane that you've

2474
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 2: been sitting in, probably breathing in other people's farts for

2475
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 2: two hours, trying to get from one place or the other. Urgency,

2476
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: move your ass, he.

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01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 1: Said it best bucket fits Fox Sports Radio. Keep hanging out, MHM.