WEBVTT - Second Date Update: 3rd Times A Yawn 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.280 Thanks for being on the Second Date podcast. It's Brook 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.360 and Jeffrey in the Morning and Man, Today's Second Date. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.040 It's brand new. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.680 It's about this guy who has a new plan to 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:09.639 stop being friend zone. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.360 It was interesting that it was interesting. We tried, We 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.319 tried for him. We're going to find out if we 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.360 were successful or not. Here in just a second before 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.160 some comments from our Lovely Lovely listening. Yes, this one 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:19.799 made me laugh. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.840 Julianne Stanford said, I was seriously considering divorce until I 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.239 heard the dating nightmares on the show. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.840 Now I'm clinging to my relationship like it's a life boat. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.159 I'm like, am I happy for Juliana or not? 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.519 That's all We get clean to your relationships right now, 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.600 because you could be in the same boat as our listener. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.400 Let's get it started. It's our Second Date Update. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:42.920 Second Date Update. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.760 I'm going to share something with our audience that's happened 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.960 behind the scenes here it's Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.040 Oh what is it going to be? 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:52.040 I don't remember if. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.280 Brooke has said this on the air and it's not bad, 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.320 but off the air. Whenever somebody brings up online dating, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.680 Bok's response and Jose Alexis, you can confirm this. She's 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.280 always like, Ugh, I don't think I could ever do 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.160 online dating. There's just there's way too many options. How 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.679 could you ever just pick one? 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.120 No, I totally do online dating. I would just never 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.760 do marriage after I did it, exactly because I would 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.319 have never dated anybody long enough. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.600 Yeah, exactly, I. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:22.920 See what you mean. I thought you meant. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.400 Okay, it's the crux of dating with all the apps. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.880 Now, too many choices for people. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.760 I think it was intended in a good way to 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.720 match people up who would have never found each other 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.840 if they were just left to their normal lives, But 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.520 more often than not, it just ends up being with 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.319 you have so many choices, men and women can't make 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.399 up their mind. They can't commit to just one, and 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.160 if they're not blown away immediately, there's you know, twenty 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.080 other options that they could just go explore. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.800 I go to the Cereal aisle and it feels overwhelming. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:55.640 I should choose. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.240 And the thing is, that's where our listener, Evan is 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.360 that right now. He claims he is a victim of 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.520 being just one guy in a sea of a billion dudes. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.200 Oh yeah, Jeff's dream. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:12.000 Yeah to it, But Evan, welcome to the show. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.320 Hey guys. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.480 Yeah, Evn, I'm sorry, man, he sounds like you're going 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.400 through it with this online dating stuff. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.320 I am. It's been years and there's been ups and downs. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.360 But I'm just I want to try something new and 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.720 I think it's gonna work. I just need a little help. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.560 Okay, okay, So what is your your stance on dating 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:32.120 right now? Like? 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.399 Where are you at? 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.160 I think that you should date a lot of different 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.919 people because experts say that if you focus too much 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.760 on just one person, you're gonna end up disappointed. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.920 But you're supposed to like date a little bit and 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.239 then when one stands out, then you kind of focus 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.640 on them. It doesn't bode well. Her Brooks married. She 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.200 fuses a lot on that one guy. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.000 Yeah, it's so funny. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.600 So Evan, you're you're not focusing on just one. You're 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:57.799 dating a lot of different people. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.600 Well, I wouldn't say a lot, but i'd say a 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.200 small handful at any given time. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:04.760 That's a lot. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.040 Is there one in particular that you really like or 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.680 are we just going to call ten girls? 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.160 Yeah? There is one. Her name is Jenna, and she's 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.920 a top contender. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.040 Is that a compliment, alexis it is? 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.920 I mean, I want to be the top one. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.920 So where do you and Jenna stand? 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.720 We had one date, it was good and nothing bad happened. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.680 Is that your bar says defensively, nothing happened? 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.160 I mean, is that your bar like you had a 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.320 good enough date that nothing bad happened. So that's why 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.040 you want to call her? 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.360 Well, sometimes I do feel that way, but this was 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.240 a good date. It was genuinely good, and I do 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.000 believe that she likes me and would like to go 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.440 out on another day with me. I just want to 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.880 try this thing to kind of make her work for 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:56.720 a little bit. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.680 What wait, wait, she's so, you're not calling us because 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.360 someone's not calling you back or isn't interested. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.080 Greg, he is interested, That's what I believe. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.680 Okay, this is different. I guess let's hear him out. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.240 So this girl trying not to think game. He's playing 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:14.360 games in my head right now. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.640 It's not a game, but it is reverse psychology. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.279 Oh that works so good on me? 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.440 Did it just work on you? He's like, I'm trying 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:25.120 to figure this out. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:26.680 I love it. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.280 All right, you already have Brooks interest. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.159 Now, so what is your idea for reverse psychology with Jenna. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.320 I want you to call her and tell her that, like, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.560 I thought that she was cool, but I'm a little 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:39.520 on the fence about it. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.920 Huh wait wait, why why would we be calling her 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:44.800 just to tell her that. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:50.919 Yeah, that's going to make her morning? 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.719 Why do you want to do it this way with Jenna? 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.039 The thing is, I've had a lot of dates this 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.920 past year where the first meeting is great, but then 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.400 it just it sizzles out, okay, and then the girl 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.719 will say to me, Hey, you're super cool and everything, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.760 but there's just not a strong enough of a connection 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:08.159 for me. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.640 You're getting friend zoned, is what it sounds like. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.360 It makes me feel like I need to be defensive 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.360 and prove myself because she's in the power position. So okay, 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.000 all I see you're good at the first couple of days, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.280 which is the sounds. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.279 Like he wants to flip the script on these women 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.680 and he wants to be in the power position being like, hey, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.479 like I think you're cool and everything, but I don't 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.320 know if it's there, then the girl will have to 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.680 sell herself to him. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.240 So we should leave our front and alone. Wait, here's 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:38.599 the thing. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.680 You sound like a genuinely nice guy, and that's probably 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.160 why this is happening. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.719 Did you see Alexis gag when you said genuinely nice guys? 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:48.800 That's the problem. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.880 Everything makes sense. I mean, you do know this couldn't backfire, right. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.520 I have nothing to lose at this point, trust me. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.960 I mean, it is a bold move. You have to 0:05:59.000 --> 0:05:59.760 admit risk. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.440 Can you tell us anything about Jenna that would make 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.000 you feel like this is gonna work on her? 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:04.120 Like? 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.560 What is she like? Would you do? 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.880 I can tell you, but she's literally like every other 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.159 girl that I've been dating recently, Like, you know, she's sweet, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.479 she's funny, she's pretty, like they all are. Yeah, but 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.920 she's gonna turn on me. She's gonna turn. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:18.760 Exactly. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.680 Let's not get caught up in the minutia of who 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.160 she is as a person. I don't know if this 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.640 strategy would actually work. It sounds kind of manipulative, similar 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:28.680 to one of my co hosts. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.240 And they're happily married, so it might actually be a 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.760 good strategy at the end of the day. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.760 Here's my thing, Like, we tell her this statement, and 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.920 then what Jeff like? We tell her, Hey, so and so, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.839 how can we follow. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.440 Up that conversation. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.960 You know what, he is on the other line right now, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.799 So like maybe if you want to try to convince 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.200 him to go out, you might be. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.080 Okay, Like, we won't do a lot of the talking. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.599 No, I think Evan wants to be in control here. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:07:00.800 So Evan is it's not interested, had time to call 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:06.840 the radio, Wait on, hold, wind around, Okay, No, he's 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.080 not gonna say hello, Henna, say suck oh I forgot. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.400 Yeah, we're just gonna be super non committal about it 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.240 and let Evan swoop. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.040 In for entertainment purposes. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:21.560 I'm it's an interesting experiment at the very least, so 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.600 we're gonna find out how it goes when we call 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.040 her in your second date update right after this hold 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.720 on then second date update if you're just joining us 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.840 for the second date, our listener, Evan has asked us 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.240 to do something that we've never really tried on this 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.840 segment before, because. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.000 It's not an idea any of us have ever happened. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.760 No, probably too smart for our simple brains. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.239 I like that spin. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.960 But he wants us to call his date Jenna, and 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.840 instead of saying he had a lot of fun with you, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.720 he really likes you. He wants to see you again, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.040 coming on kind of strong, even. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.800 Me saying that, are you giving yourself the ech. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.120 I kind of even? It does feel like a lot, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:01.760 That's why. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.600 Instead Evan wants us to say he reached out, but 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.920 he's kind of on the fence about it, not really 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.120 sure how he feels. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.200 So I don't know, how are you feeling about him? 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.640 Basically reverse psychology Jenna into loving him. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.480 I'm going to be so disheartened if this works, Like 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.440 you can't just be open with your emotions anymore. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.520 Well, Evan has been rejected so many times. He's tired 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.640 of being put on that side of the conversation. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.520 He wants to have the upper hand this time. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.600 This is the only problem people are. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.920 He's trying to stop the cycle of what's going on 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.520 in his life, right, Evan. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.600 It's time I got to stand up for the pack, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.640 you know. And there's a storyline that's just been playing 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.520 over and over again. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.640 I think you could have used the quote about like 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.280 how someone who does the same thing over and over 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.640 again but expects a different result is the definition of insanity. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.839 Yeah, something new and he thinks that if he does 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.320 it this way, then she's going to be more open 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.320 to not just a second date, but the third date, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:57.960 the fourth date. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.520 So how cool do we play it? Jeff I'm worried, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:01.040 like do we do? 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:07.160 We get her name wrong at first? It's a good question, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.000 but I think we just have to play kind of 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.600 non committal and more just ask her about what she 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:12.439 thinks about the day. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:13.360 We'll just go right to that. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.680 Okay, deafening silence from the room. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.679 Okay, here we go, let's try it. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:30.280 Hello. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:32.040 Hey is this Jenna? 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.320 It is who's calling? 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.319 We're a radio show actually called Brook and Jeffrey in 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:37.720 the Morning. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.240 Hey Jenna, Hi, thanks for picking up. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.520 We're doing a segment on our show A you may 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.800 have heard of it before. It's called a second Date Update. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.240 Yes, but where calling. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.800 We're kind of surprised we're calling you to segment because 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.320 it doesn't actually fit. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.920 Yeah. Yeah, this is a little bit different than what 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.360 we normally do. But we got an email from one 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:04.800 of our listeners that you went out with. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:10.280 His name's Evan. Okay, yeah, yeah, remember going out with Evan? 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.080 I do? Okay, yeah, I do. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.079 Evan emailed our show. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:16.880 He told us that the two of you went out 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.800 and you know he had, he had a decent time. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.080 He's considering seeing you again, but he is kind of 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:28.720 on the fence about it. What he said that, he's 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.840 just he I mean yeah, like he enjoyed the date, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.160 no question about it, But the future he's a little 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:36.960 bit uncertain of. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.800 Wait, so he doesn't like me? 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.120 No, no, No, he doesn't not like you. He just doesn't. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.520 He doesn't know. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:54.240 Yeah, his heart is congested. What confused? I don't know. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:55.400 He doesn't know. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.079 That's not what I meant. He doesn't know where his 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.960 mind is at one hundred percent. He's trying to fit 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.600 your stuff out. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.400 I guess I'm just confused. I thought we liked each other. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.240 I thought everything was say specifically that he liked you? 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.760 Or did you just feel the vibe? 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.640 Nobody does that anymore? What did he write a note 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:13.679 and circle yes or no? 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:14.439 Do you like you? 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.960 Make it a whole lot easier? But I like you 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.560 so far. Sometimes it's hard to know how people feel. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.480 Sometimes you're reading signs, you're reading them wrong. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.080 No, No, we had a great time. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.160 We even kissed. Okay, Well that's good. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.199 Tell us more of stuff like that, like what exactly 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.760 happened the day we'll give us more indications of why 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.839 you think he liked You're so out of a box 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:41.240 right now. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.880 Well, I mean we grabbed drinks. I got to really 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.400 know him. He was super, super nice. I don't really 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.080 go out with nice guys, so he was the first 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.000 nice guy in a very long time or. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:57.280 More. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.840 Maybe maybe you thought that he liked you, but he 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.400 never actually said that to you. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.400 Could just be like a vibe that you were getting. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.959 Honestly, this is just extremely disappointing to hear because we 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.600 were vibing. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.000 Okay, Well, maybe the vibe that you're feeling from him 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.480 is the literal phone line connection that is happening right 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.160 now because he is listening to this call. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.800 Oh makes him feel like he wants it more. Yeah, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.120 you know, I'm not going. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.839 To say that. I will say he does want to 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.240 talk to you, though, what. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.679 Evan, what is going on? I'm so confused. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.000 Yeah, I'm sorry to throw a loop in things, But 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.080 you thought I was nice? Yeah, I thought you were 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:46.520 really nice too. But I'm just not totally sure that 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:51.400 there's a romantic connection between us. I'm just not surely. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:57.440 Huh. Okay, Well, I guess I guess maybe we're just 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.560 better off friends. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.640 Well, hold, well, what are you doing, dude. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.559 I don't I don't think we should jump to that. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.280 I just I need to be sure that you really 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.120 do feel that way before I. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.760 This is weird. This is a very strange way of 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:15.840 going about this. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.480 I don't even understand where he's trying to go here. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.040 Evan, you're saying, you're saying that she's saying that she 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.440 likes you, but you're not sure if you believe that. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.080 Not completely, because I'm a nice guy and I I 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.439 have a hard time believing that she really likes that. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.880 I thought you just that you were attracted to her 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.480 because there was no romantic connection for you. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.080 I'm not saying there isn't. There isn't. I'm not sure. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:40.200 I'm in the middle here. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.720 Okay, your message, I think, is getting a little lost. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.199 Yeah, well, Jenna, maybe you have to show him a 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.880 little bit more strongly that the feelings are there, that 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:48.600 it's worth it. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.520 After all this, why would I do that? I mean, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.160 this was it was going so well without even getting 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.600 anyone else involved. This is like turning me away. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.200 You see, one day they're saying they like him, and 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.120 then all of a sudden, something switches, and they're like switches. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.680 Is you telling her there's no romantic connection and that 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.520 you weren't sure if you liked her or not? 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.679 That's the switch. You can turn that back. You can 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.319 be honest about where you stand. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.000 I would have never been weirded out as I am 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.000 right this moment if you just didn't do all this. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.760 This is very strange. What's turning me off? 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.200 Oh no, it wouldn't have happened on the second or 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.040 third date anyway. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:34.200 Yeah, Jenna, you may not realize this now, but after 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.640 three dates with him, you would realize that you weren't 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:37.120 into him. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.720 Now we're going to tell her how she's going to 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.160 feel on a future date. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:41.320 Unless we're wrong. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 Because unless we're wrong, because normally at this time I 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.200 would offer to send you guys out and we would 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.360 pay for it. But I kind of have a vibe 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.400 that both of you are still on the fence. At 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.520 least you might want to plead your case to him 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:59.800 right now, Jenna, and ask Evan out after he turned her. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.320 I just want to I want to partner who will 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:02.920 fight for me. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:12.200 Okay, that's respectable. I think it's an him, Jenna right now. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:13.520 To be asked with you. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:14.760 Now, I mean, you have. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.120 Nothing else to lose at this point, Evan, why don't 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.720 you just tell her the truth? 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.640 I mean, what is this truth? You have to tell me? 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.320 This is the very insane that how this is working 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.120 out right now? If you have to tell me something, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.120 I mean, you might as well tell me right now. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.160 Look, the truth is I really like you, and I was, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.600 and I was afraid that if I just carried on 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.840 being nice and showing that I really liked you, that 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.280 you would get bored with me. And if I use 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.840 reverse psychology on you, then you I would think that 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.280 I was a bad boy or like something that you're 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.440 really attracted to and want to, like, really work towards 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.360 winning me. I'm usually the one that's trying to win 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.440 somebody over, and I wanted to flip the script. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.920 Oh buddy, I mean, thank you for being honest finally 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.120 about this. It was weird. It was a weird way 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:09.320 of going about. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.680 It, but he was just trying something new. Dating is 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.120 hard these days, and he liked you, and he didn't 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.600 know how to keep it going. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.920 And it wasn't the smartest move. I think he is 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.200 finally understanding that. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:27.040 Yes, yeah, now that we've really sold him. We'd love 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.680 to offer to send you guys out on another date, Jenna, 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.720 and we would pay for it. I mean, he has 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.320 finally come clean, he's told you the truth, and no 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.320 more games going forward, at least not for Evans, has 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:38.840 never happened. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.520 Yeah, yeah, Kenna, I promised no games going forward. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.760 Come on, Jenna, don't wait. The player hate the game. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:50.960 Let's go one more day. Yeah, we're the games. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:51.720 We're going to date. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.600 Yeah. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.880 Fe reverse psychology does work. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.200 The honest truth works, real feel leeds work like we 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.480 feel accomplished when literally nothing changed. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.880 We did it. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.280 You guys are the best. Thank you. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.960 You're welcome, buddy. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.720 I don't feel like it's. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.320 Rooky Jeffrey in the morning. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.320 I don't think there's any way she would have said 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.679 yes if Evan didn't finally come clean and just be 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.920 honest about his true feelings at the end there. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:27.840 Yeah, no, I mean we literally just we added more drama. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.840 We did, and there was no need for it. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.400 This is what happens when us non cool guys try 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:33.080 and play cool. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.760 Yeah, that's right. It was a be yourself. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.560 Yeah, yeah, it's a nice due, be a nice dude. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.560 It's a win for nice guys everywhere, and he's lucky that, 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.240 for some weird reason, she just liked him for who 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:44.600 he was. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.360 But I really don't want to get an update from 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.040 them that on the third date. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.159 She decided there was no romantic connect. 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.320 He's just too nice, So we need to talk to 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.240 all the girls to find out what's the real reason. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.960 Already keeps up the act and he shows up an hour. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:02.520 Late to the date. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:04.680 Yeah, that's all right. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.560 But you know what, if you're a nice guy, or 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.920 if you're a bad boy, or anything in between, we 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.520