WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Stephen and Carole Baxter

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Helen Gone Murder Line actively investigates cold case murders in

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<v Speaker 2>an effort to raise public awareness, invite witnesses to come forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and present evidence that could potentially be further investigated by

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. While we value insights from family and community members,

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<v Speaker 2>their statements should not be considered evidence and point to

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<v Speaker 2>the challenges of verifying facts inherent in cold cases. We

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<v Speaker 2>remind listeners that everyone is presumed innocent until proven.

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<v Speaker 1>Guilty in a court of law.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing in the podcast is intended to state or imply

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime

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<v Speaker 2>is guilty of any wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I was working on a case and I

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<v Speaker 1>needed a little bit more time to investigate it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have a special treat for you. Here's an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Red Collar. This is my other podcast that focuses

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<v Speaker 1>on financial crimes and con artists who kill. Next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back with a regular episode of Hell and

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<v Speaker 1>Gone Murder Line. In the meantime, I hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>Red Collar. On Easter Sunday, April 29th, 2023, 21-year-old Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>Baxter went to check on her parents at their home

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<v Speaker 1>on Mercia Island on the Essex coast in England. Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>was around five months pregnant, and she was worried because

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<v Speaker 1>she had not been able to get a hold of

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<v Speaker 1>her parents, 64-year-old Carol Baxter and 61-year-old Stephen Baxter. The

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<v Speaker 1>Baxters ran a very successful business called Kaz Splash. Carol

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<v Speaker 1>had come up with the idea for the business after

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<v Speaker 1>getting frustrated that she couldn't find a bath mat for

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<v Speaker 1>a curved shower. Stephen, her husband, had an engineering background,

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<v Speaker 1>so he worked on the business side. And more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie had also been helping them out with the business,

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<v Speaker 1>which they ran from their home. Ellie arrived at the

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<v Speaker 1>house with her partner, Marcus, and immediately noticed that something

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<v Speaker 1>seemed very off. The blinds were still closed, even though

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen had a habit of opening them every morning. They

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<v Speaker 1>knocked on the door, but no one answered. So Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>and Marcus started walking around outside, trying to look for

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<v Speaker 1>another way in the house. There was a spare key,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't in its normal spot. Then Ellie looked

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<v Speaker 1>through the living room window, and that's when she saw

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<v Speaker 1>her parents sitting in their usual reclining chairs next to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. But they weren't moving. At this point, Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>and Marcus started trying to break in. A neighbor heard

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<v Speaker 1>the commotion, came over, and had a claw hammered. So finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus was able to break into the house. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>they saw that Carol and Stephen's hands had turned blue.

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<v Speaker 1>There was liquid around Carol's mouth. They were both sitting

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<v Speaker 1>upright in their chairs, dead. I'm Katherine Townsend. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Hell and Gone Murder Line in collaboration with Red Collar.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon after the police came to the scene, Ellie's brother

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<v Speaker 1>Harry and a family friend, Luke DeWitt, who also helped

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<v Speaker 1>out at the business, showed up on the scene. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>agreed that what made this scene so weird was what

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<v Speaker 1>investigators didn't find. Because there were no obvious injuries on

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<v Speaker 1>Carol or Steven. There were no signs of a violent struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no weapon. There was no indication of foul

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<v Speaker 1>play at all. The house was neat. Nothing seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken. So it didn't look like robbery was the

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<v Speaker 1>motive here. This was just a couple who looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they sat down in their armchairs and died at about

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. But what are the odds of that?

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<v Speaker 1>What actually happened to them? Ellie's first thought was that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this could be a case of carbon monoxide poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>When she first went into the house, she started opening

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<v Speaker 1>doors and windows just in case. But investigators didn't find

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<v Speaker 1>any sign of a carbon monoxide leak. Carol did have

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<v Speaker 1>a pacemaker, and when detectives looked at that pacemaker, they

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<v Speaker 1>did find a clue. they could see that Carol's heart

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<v Speaker 1>had stopped sometime between approximately 11 a.m. and 2 p.m.

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, April 8th, the day before the bodies were discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>So now police seem to have a pretty narrow time

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<v Speaker 1>of death, but still no clue as to a cause. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if Carol was dying, we're talking about the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. So what were the odds that Stephen would

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<v Speaker 1>just sit there, sit down next to her and die

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<v Speaker 1>without calling for help? The medical examiner started working on

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<v Speaker 1>the post-mortem exam, and they found that neither Stephen nor

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<v Speaker 1>Carol had any suspicious injuries or defensive wounds. However, both

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<v Speaker 1>of them did have some health issues. Stephen had recently

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<v Speaker 1>had knee replacement surgery, while Carol had lived for years

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<v Speaker 1>with Hashimoto's disease, an autoimmune condition that affected her thyroid.

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<v Speaker 1>But neither medical history explained why both of them had

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly died in the same room. None of these conditions

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<v Speaker 1>they had were fatal. So for the first few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after Stephen and Carol Baxter were found dead, their deaths

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<v Speaker 1>were treated more as mysterious and unexplained rather than anything

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<v Speaker 1>involving obvious foul play. But that was all about to

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<v Speaker 1>change because then the toxicology results came back and everything

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<v Speaker 1>shifted because those tests showed that both Stephen and Carol

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<v Speaker 1>had died from fentanyl overdoses. They had massive amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>fentanyl in their systems. Carol also had potentially fatal levels

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<v Speaker 1>of another drug called promethazine. It's described as a sedating antihistamine,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot of it in Carol's blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither Stephen nor Carol had been prescribed fentanyl. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no known history of drug use on either of their parts,

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<v Speaker 1>and investigators found no injection marks on either of their bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>So now police have a new mystery to solve. How

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<v Speaker 1>did two people who apparently have no reason to be

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<v Speaker 1>taking fentanyl both end up with fatal quantities of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's most powerful opioids in their systems? Police

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<v Speaker 1>started looking at Carol and Steven's family and people close

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<v Speaker 1>to them. They were trying to see if they could

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<v Speaker 1>figure out any reason why anyone would want to harm them.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol had been suffering from health problems. And even though

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<v Speaker 1>we said before they weren't fatal, they were increasingly serious

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<v Speaker 1>for years. And apparently that had been depressing her. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point, about a year before she died, Carol had

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<v Speaker 1>to rush to the hospital with severe abdominal pain. It

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<v Speaker 1>turned out doctors discovered a 17-millimeter nail inside her colon,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was unable to explain how she swallowed it.

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<v Speaker 1>So now police are looking at everything out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary that happened to Carol and looking at it through

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<v Speaker 1>the lenses of her and Stephen's sudden death and wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>was this abdominal issue she had just some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird accident, or had someone been targeting Carol even back then?

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<v Speaker 1>As her pain got worse and worse over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol made new friends. She joined an online community for

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<v Speaker 1>people who had Hashimoto's disease and started communicating with an expert, Dr.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea Bowden. Now, Dr. Bowden started giving Carol advice that

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<v Speaker 1>some of her family believe was a little bit out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They started to believe that the people in this group,

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<v Speaker 1>including Carol's online friends named Cheryl Herring, Linda Edwards, and

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<v Speaker 1>Marnie Pantry, were becoming kind of like a cult. Whenever Dr.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea would tell Carol something that contradicted her GP's advice,

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<v Speaker 1>her regular doctor, Carol would ask the other women in

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<v Speaker 1>this online group what they thought, and overwhelmingly, these women

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<v Speaker 1>all supported Dr. Andrea Bowden. So police were also taking

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<v Speaker 1>a closer look at the women in this online support group.

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<v Speaker 1>Police found evidence that when Carol became skeptical of Andrea Bowden,

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<v Speaker 1>she actually contacted another doctor, Dr. Alan Mandel. And over time, Dr.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea was encouraging Carol to reduce contact with people who

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<v Speaker 1>might cause her stress. So now police are wondering, were

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<v Speaker 1>the people in this community just a little bit eccentric

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<v Speaker 1>or were they actually dangerous? Police were looking at Ellie's

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<v Speaker 1>friends as well. They found out that Ellie had been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to launch a singing career, and she had a

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<v Speaker 1>friend named Jenny Trencher. This person was a theater producer

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<v Speaker 1>who was encouraging Ellie to pursue her dreams. Police found

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<v Speaker 1>out also that there had been friction between Ellie and

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<v Speaker 1>her parents. Ellie would talk to her friend Jenny about

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<v Speaker 1>her difficulties with her parents, about the business, and about

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<v Speaker 1>her parents' will. Since Jenny, Ellie's friend, also knew details

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<v Speaker 1>about the Baxter's finances, which by now police are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>looking into, Jenny got added to the people of interest

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<v Speaker 1>who police were trying to interview. Police also started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the Baxter's financial situation, the whole picture. The family business,

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<v Speaker 1>Kaz Splash, was actually having money problems. So investigators did

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<v Speaker 1>have to consider whether this had been some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>assisted suicide of some kind. whether Stephen and Carol might

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<v Speaker 1>have deliberately taken the drug together, or whether one spouse

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<v Speaker 1>could have administered the fentanyl to the other spouse before

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<v Speaker 1>taking their own life. But there was no note, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was also nothing in either Carol or Stephen's history

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<v Speaker 1>to indicate that this was any kind of a motive.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends and family said Stephen appeared happy and in a

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<v Speaker 1>good mood shortly before his death. The Baxters had also

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about a future and they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>retirement and travel and spending more time with their family.

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<v Speaker 1>Once toxicology transformed this investigation, police went back through the

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<v Speaker 1>Baxter home much more carefully. Inside the wicker container where

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<v Speaker 1>Carol's medications were stored, police found four empty packets of

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<v Speaker 1>fentanyl patches. This discovery was hard to explain because again,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of the Baxter's had a prescription for fentanyl. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no marks indicating that either of them had been

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the patches before their death. So did someone drug

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<v Speaker 1>the Baxter's by putting patches on their skin and then

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<v Speaker 1>remove the patches at some point later? Police didn't think so. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>investigators formed a theory that the drug had been consumed orally,

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<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't determine precisely how that could have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no incriminating traces on the glasses or on

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<v Speaker 1>the cookware or utensils in the house, and no obvious

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<v Speaker 1>container that could explain how two fatal doses could have

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<v Speaker 1>been prepared and consumed. The location of the empty packets

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<v Speaker 1>was mysterious as well because emergency personnel had looked through

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<v Speaker 1>Carol's medication after the bodies were discovered. Apparently, they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>noticed the fentanyl packaging. Now it was sitting at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the medication container. Had it simply been missed

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<v Speaker 1>during the initial examination or had something changed inside the

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<v Speaker 1>house after Stephen and Carol died? Carol and Stephen did

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<v Speaker 1>have a will, a will that left everything to their children.

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<v Speaker 1>But then investigators found something else in Carol's home office,

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<v Speaker 1>a document headed with words to the effect of what

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<v Speaker 1>should happen in the event of Stephen Carol's death. It

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be an attempt at a codicil, a document

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<v Speaker 1>that's intended to amend an existing will. And it dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with the couple's house, their possessions, and most importantly, their company,

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Splash. According to the new document, their daughter Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>would become the company's sole shareholder, while Luke DeWitt, the

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<v Speaker 1>family friend who sometimes helped with the business, would become

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<v Speaker 1>a director and exercise significant control over its operations. I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen estimates that they were worth between 1.5 and

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<v Speaker 1>2.5 million pounds, but a lot of their net worth

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be equity in their property rather than cold,

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<v Speaker 1>hard cash. The document also directed that $ 60, 000 from the

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<v Speaker 1>Baxter's estate should be put into the company. The codicil

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<v Speaker 1>specified that when Ellie turned 30 years old, she and

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<v Speaker 1>Luke were supposed to share the directorship and she would

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<v Speaker 1>not be permitted to remove him. This codicil was dated

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<v Speaker 1>November 22nd, 2022, several months before the couple's deaths. But

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<v Speaker 1>there were serious problems with this document. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol and Steven did have a regular lawyer. They had

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<v Speaker 1>used this attorney to prepare the will that they had

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<v Speaker 1>from 2021, the one that left their estate to their children.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lawyer told police they had never said anything

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<v Speaker 1>to him about amending it or creating a new document.

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<v Speaker 1>And this newly discovered document was not signed by Steven

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<v Speaker 1>or Carol. But most mysteriously, police found the wording on

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<v Speaker 1>the document strange. The discovery of a quickly written and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unprofessional document like that inevitably forced investigators to

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<v Speaker 1>look closely at the people who appeared to benefit from it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them was Carol and Stephen's daughter, Ellie. So

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement were reviewing all communications between the Baxters and

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<v Speaker 1>their daughter, Ellie. They found that Carol had previously told

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie that the company would eventually belong to her. But,

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the messages also showed tension surrounding money and

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<v Speaker 1>arguments between the Baxters and Ellie about their frustrations with

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<v Speaker 1>her having limited involvement in the company. Carol had complained

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<v Speaker 1>that her daughter wasn't very good with managing money and

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<v Speaker 1>had shown relatively little interest in the business. Meanwhile, Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>told investigators she had no idea how serious Kaz Splash's

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<v Speaker 1>financial problems had become. So Ellie started talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>attorney who prepared this codicil. His name was Martin Ellison,

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<v Speaker 1>and Martin assured Ellie that this was legit, that he

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<v Speaker 1>had written it up himself, and it was completely above board.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie at the time was also dealing with the very

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<v Speaker 1>real emotional consequences of having been the person who discovered

0:15:28.150 --> 0:15:31.500
<v Speaker 1>her parents' bodies. She was pregnant when she looked through

0:15:31.540 --> 0:15:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the conservatory window and saw her parents dead in their chairs.

0:15:35.060 --> 0:15:38.530
<v Speaker 1>The shock caused her to start bleeding heavily. and she

0:15:38.570 --> 0:15:41.370
<v Speaker 1>was scared that she might lose her baby. A medical

0:15:41.420 --> 0:15:45.940
<v Speaker 1>examination fortunately established that her pregnancy was continuing normally, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this was terrifying for her. In the weeks afterwards,

0:15:49.820 --> 0:15:54.480
<v Speaker 1>she was simultaneously grieving her parents, organizing their funeral, and

0:15:54.600 --> 0:16:00.180
<v Speaker 1>trying to avoid further stress to her or her unborn child. Meanwhile,

0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.620
<v Speaker 1>police were also looking at someone else who had been

0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.370
<v Speaker 1>very close to the Baxter family, 31-year-old Luke DeWitt. Luke

0:16:07.390 --> 0:16:10.070
<v Speaker 1>DeWitt had a background of working in IT. He had

0:16:10.090 --> 0:16:12.410
<v Speaker 1>been working at the Baxter's business for a few years.

0:16:13.350 --> 0:16:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Luke was known around town for being kind of a nerdy,

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.520
<v Speaker 1>quiet guy, but someone who was very kind, who did

0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.620
<v Speaker 1>volunteer work. In 2021, Luke's father had died of cancer,

0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.140
<v Speaker 1>and after that, he got even closer to Stephen and Carol.

0:16:28.060 --> 0:16:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Luke ended up being diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. And

0:16:31.460 --> 0:16:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Carol and Steven supported him through that, through the brutal

0:16:34.300 --> 0:16:38.860
<v Speaker 1>chemotherapy appointments and the treatments. And Luke also helped them.

0:16:39.690 --> 0:16:42.140
<v Speaker 1>When Carol was going through her health issues, Luke would

0:16:42.190 --> 0:16:45.470
<v Speaker 1>prepare healthy meals for her. They weren't just coworkers, they

0:16:45.490 --> 0:16:48.670
<v Speaker 1>were like family at this point. In fact, Luke was

0:16:48.750 --> 0:16:51.230
<v Speaker 1>one of the last people to see Steven and Carol alive.

0:16:52.030 --> 0:16:54.650
<v Speaker 1>Luke had visited the house on Friday night while Carol

0:16:54.670 --> 0:16:58.140
<v Speaker 1>was asleep and Steven was cooking dinner. Remember that Carol's

0:16:58.180 --> 0:17:01.500
<v Speaker 1>pacemaker indicated that she was alive after that, after Luke left.

0:17:01.980 --> 0:17:05.500
<v Speaker 1>She died sometime on Saturday afternoon, and Luke had left

0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.740
<v Speaker 1>the house by then. This was verified by a security

0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.610
<v Speaker 1>camera that covered the front of the property. That camera

0:17:11.650 --> 0:17:14.630
<v Speaker 1>did not record anyone coming or going from the house

0:17:14.750 --> 0:17:18.010
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. Now, it was possible someone could have approached

0:17:18.030 --> 0:17:21.490
<v Speaker 1>from another direction and maybe avoided the camera, especially someone

0:17:21.530 --> 0:17:24.510
<v Speaker 1>familiar with the house, but police didn't know for sure,

0:17:24.570 --> 0:17:26.930
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't have any evidence that that's what took place.

0:17:27.810 --> 0:17:30.690
<v Speaker 1>So now, police were taking a hard look at Ellie,

0:17:30.890 --> 0:17:34.830
<v Speaker 1>her husband, and Luke DeWitt. But no one could believe

0:17:34.890 --> 0:17:37.510
<v Speaker 1>that Luke would do anything like that. Everyone said he

0:17:37.530 --> 0:17:40.970
<v Speaker 1>was known as having good character. He apparently volunteered at

0:17:41.010 --> 0:17:43.960
<v Speaker 1>soup kitchens. He would pose as Santa Claus for local

0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.980
<v Speaker 1>events in town. After his father died, Luke lived with

0:17:48.020 --> 0:17:51.640
<v Speaker 1>his mother. Now, trial reporting would later describe the adult

0:17:51.700 --> 0:17:55.690
<v Speaker 1>son and mother as sharing a bedroom. So there were

0:17:55.990 --> 0:17:59.690
<v Speaker 1>rumors flying around that Luke's relationship with his mother was

0:17:59.770 --> 0:18:02.850
<v Speaker 1>a little bit odd and close. I am not suggesting,

0:18:02.890 --> 0:18:05.610
<v Speaker 1>by the way, there was anything inappropriate about the mother-son

0:18:05.650 --> 0:18:08.690
<v Speaker 1>relationship at all. The rumors that were flying around were

0:18:08.710 --> 0:18:11.030
<v Speaker 1>more along the lines of them being very close and

0:18:11.050 --> 0:18:13.390
<v Speaker 1>it may be being unhealthy. But in spite of that,

0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody described Luke DeWitt as a good guy. One article

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.460
<v Speaker 1>described him as someone who, quote, was known locally as

0:18:19.500 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>an eccentric but generally harmless computer enthusiast, end quote. As

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.540
<v Speaker 1>far as everyone could tell, other than volunteering and working

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in IT, Luke DeWitt's main hobby was playing video games.

0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.780
<v Speaker 1>And Luke had been so helpful. After the bodies were discovered,

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.610
<v Speaker 1>Luke came over and helped communicate with emergency services when

0:18:38.690 --> 0:18:40.970
<v Speaker 1>Ellie was too distraught to explain what was going on.

0:18:41.850 --> 0:18:47.070
<v Speaker 1>He also assisted in gathering Carol's medication for paramedics. Afterward,

0:18:47.110 --> 0:18:50.330
<v Speaker 1>he helped Ellie organize the funeral. He even babysat her

0:18:50.390 --> 0:18:53.970
<v Speaker 1>son while she went on her pregnancy doctor's appointments. To Ellie,

0:18:54.290 --> 0:18:56.390
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the people supporting her through the

0:18:56.530 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 1>worst period of her life. However, now police were wondering

0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.080
<v Speaker 1>if there was a dark side to Luke staying so

0:19:04.120 --> 0:19:07.200
<v Speaker 1>close to the family in that way. Then, in June

0:19:07.220 --> 0:19:10.900
<v Speaker 1>of 2023, police came to Ellie's house and arrested her

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.120
<v Speaker 1>on suspicion of murdering her parents. Ellie said she was shocked.

0:19:15.220 --> 0:19:17.900
<v Speaker 1>She denied having anything to do with their deaths. She

0:19:17.980 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>told investigators she hadn't even known that fentanyl had killed

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>them until police revealed it during questioning. But Ellie was

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>not the only person arrested that day. Police also arrested

0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:33.650
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend, Marcus, and they arrested Luke DeWitt. Ellie later

0:19:33.870 --> 0:19:37.470
<v Speaker 1>said that this was horrific and stressful. She was heavily pregnant,

0:19:37.510 --> 0:19:40.150
<v Speaker 1>and now she was being questioned in connection with her parents' murder.

0:19:41.110 --> 0:19:45.500
<v Speaker 1>But very quickly, Ellie and Marcus were released from police custody,

0:19:46.060 --> 0:19:49.420
<v Speaker 1>but Luke DeWitt remained there. And what police were beginning

0:19:49.460 --> 0:19:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to uncover would completely change the story of Stephen and

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:58.460
<v Speaker 1>Carol Baxter's deaths. Because when Luke was arrested and police

0:19:58.540 --> 0:20:03.010
<v Speaker 1>looked through his rucksack, they found lots of fentanyl pouches.

0:20:18.250 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>When Luke was questioned he had a reason for having

0:20:21.300 --> 0:20:24.020
<v Speaker 1>these patches. He said that he had the fentanyl because

0:20:24.140 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>it had originally been prescribed to his father who had

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.930
<v Speaker 1>died from cancer two years earlier. When police searched Luke's

0:20:30.950 --> 0:20:34.640
<v Speaker 1>house they found more fentanyl. Again Luke told them investigators

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that there was an innocent explanation for all this. He

0:20:36.940 --> 0:20:39.290
<v Speaker 1>said he had just been going through his father's things slowly,

0:20:39.770 --> 0:20:43.150
<v Speaker 1>had collected the leftover medication, and eventually he said he

0:20:43.170 --> 0:20:45.230
<v Speaker 1>was going to take it to the pharmacy for disposal.

0:20:45.270 --> 0:20:46.870
<v Speaker 1>He just hadn't had a chance to do it yet.

0:20:47.950 --> 0:20:51.910
<v Speaker 1>But when investigators compared those patches with the empty fentanyl

0:20:51.940 --> 0:20:55.660
<v Speaker 1>patches discovered among Carol's medications, they found that they were

0:20:55.740 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>from the same batch and that Luke's fingerprints were on

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.820
<v Speaker 1>the packets found at Carol and Stephen's house. Those fentanyl

0:21:03.860 --> 0:21:07.550
<v Speaker 1>patches changed the entire direction of the investigation, but they

0:21:07.590 --> 0:21:11.510
<v Speaker 1>were far from the only disturbing things police found. Luke

0:21:11.670 --> 0:21:15.030
<v Speaker 1>also had a large quantity of an over-the-counter medication that

0:21:15.090 --> 0:21:20.140
<v Speaker 1>contained promethazine, The same sedating antihistamine that was found at

0:21:20.180 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 1>potentially lethal levels in Carol Baxter's blood. Some of the

0:21:24.120 --> 0:21:27.980
<v Speaker 1>tablets have been crushed into powder. And investigators even found

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.530
<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be a makeshift pestle and mortar among

0:21:31.570 --> 0:21:35.710
<v Speaker 1>Luke's belongings. Now again, Luke had an explanation. He claimed

0:21:35.770 --> 0:21:38.010
<v Speaker 1>he ground up that medication so he could combine it

0:21:38.050 --> 0:21:40.690
<v Speaker 1>with a cream to treat his eczema. But police were

0:21:40.730 --> 0:21:43.810
<v Speaker 1>not convinced. Especially since at the foot of his bed,

0:21:44.230 --> 0:21:48.550
<v Speaker 1>investigators found another bag and this one contained empty pill capsules.

0:21:49.550 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Luke said he had brought the bag home from the

0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.460
<v Speaker 1>Baxter's house and that it wasn't his. But investigators developed

0:21:55.580 --> 0:22:00.300
<v Speaker 1>a very different theory. They believed the crushed promethazine had

0:22:00.340 --> 0:22:04.230
<v Speaker 1>been put into capsules that Luke had created pills that

0:22:04.270 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>contained several times the therapeutic dose of this medication. That

0:22:08.660 --> 0:22:11.740
<v Speaker 1>offered a possible explanation for something that had puzzled Carol's

0:22:11.780 --> 0:22:15.790
<v Speaker 1>family and doctors long before her death. Those periods when

0:22:15.830 --> 0:22:19.890
<v Speaker 1>Carol said she was becoming profoundly drowsy and confused and disoriented.

0:22:21.270 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Then police found something even more shocking. Remember Carol's hospitalization

0:22:26.610 --> 0:22:29.500
<v Speaker 1>due to abdominal pain that was such a mystery? Well,

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.140
<v Speaker 1>police found a bag that contained dozens of metal nails.

0:22:34.290 --> 0:22:37.490
<v Speaker 1>So investigators now believe that accident wasn't an accident at all.

0:22:38.110 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They believed a nail was put inside a capsule and

0:22:41.500 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 1>given to Carol without her knowledge. Something that once looked

0:22:45.020 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like an isolated medical mystery was now being examined as

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.130
<v Speaker 1>an act of deliberate poisoning. But the physical evidence was

0:22:52.250 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>only one part of what police seized. Luke had an

0:22:56.140 --> 0:23:00.640
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary quantity of electronics, around 80 devices, according to reporting

0:23:00.860 --> 0:23:03.980
<v Speaker 1>that was broadcast in a documentary about this case called

0:23:04.020 --> 0:23:10.420
<v Speaker 1>The Millionaire Murders. This included phones, computers, tablets, smartwatches, hard drives,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.340
<v Speaker 1>and USB devices. Some of the phones were unregistered, and

0:23:14.380 --> 0:23:18.340
<v Speaker 1>investigators found technology that allowed telephone numbers from numerous countries

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.390
<v Speaker 1>to be used remotely. Now, given Luke's background in IT,

0:23:21.450 --> 0:23:24.410
<v Speaker 1>none of this was necessarily criminal on its own. The

0:23:24.450 --> 0:23:28.740
<v Speaker 1>significance emerged only after investigators began the enormous task of

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>reconstructing what those devices had been used to do. Then

0:23:33.980 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they found out that Jenny, this person she had been

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>talking to online, was not who she appeared to be.

0:23:40.980 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Jenny wasn't real at all. She was a persona invented

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:50.010
<v Speaker 1>by Luke DeWitt. Investigators even recovered evidence suggesting that Luke

0:23:50.110 --> 0:23:53.410
<v Speaker 1>had researched ways to alter his voice during telephone calls.

0:23:54.230 --> 0:23:58.330
<v Speaker 1>And they found recordings where Luke appeared to practice speaking

0:23:58.450 --> 0:24:02.100
<v Speaker 1>in a woman's voice as Jenny. This makes the hairs

0:24:02.130 --> 0:24:03.660
<v Speaker 1>on the back of my neck stand up as I'm

0:24:03.700 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>reading it because it's so creepy. Ellie had no idea

0:24:07.380 --> 0:24:09.620
<v Speaker 1>that the person she was pouring her heart out to

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.100
<v Speaker 1>about her troubles with her parents was actually Luke DeWitt.

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.300
<v Speaker 1>And the deception continued even after Stephen and Carol died.

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 1>But that was just the tip of the iceberg because

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:24.510
<v Speaker 1>Jenny wasn't Luke DeWitt's only persona. Luke also invented Martin Ellison,

0:24:24.870 --> 0:24:27.930
<v Speaker 1>the attorney who told Ellie that this weird document concerning

0:24:27.970 --> 0:24:32.510
<v Speaker 1>Casplash was authentic. Luke lied about everything. He lied about

0:24:32.550 --> 0:24:35.930
<v Speaker 1>his academic credentials and medical records showed he never even

0:24:36.050 --> 0:24:39.700
<v Speaker 1>had bone cancer. He had never gone through cancer treatment,

0:24:40.220 --> 0:24:43.890
<v Speaker 1>but he had stolen from the Baxters. police found jewelry

0:24:43.970 --> 0:24:47.970
<v Speaker 1>belonging to Carol in Luke's house. So there was now

0:24:48.050 --> 0:24:52.850
<v Speaker 1>a much darker way of interpreting Carol's deterioration. For roughly

0:24:52.970 --> 0:24:56.330
<v Speaker 1>two years, she had been consuming various homemade tonics and

0:24:56.390 --> 0:24:59.770
<v Speaker 1>mixtures that were recommended by this medical network she trusted.

0:25:00.490 --> 0:25:03.130
<v Speaker 1>And Luke was the person who would prepare the drinks

0:25:03.270 --> 0:25:06.780
<v Speaker 1>and encourage her to listen to the online doctor, Andrea Bowden.

0:25:07.980 --> 0:25:10.780
<v Speaker 1>Carol trusted him so much that she apparently made jokes

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:15.900
<v Speaker 1>about him being her mixologist. Investigators believed that some of

0:25:15.940 --> 0:25:20.210
<v Speaker 1>these tonics that Luke gave Carol had been dosed with promethazine.

0:25:20.790 --> 0:25:24.950
<v Speaker 1>Carol's mysterious worsening illness, the drowsiness, the confusion, the erratic

0:25:24.990 --> 0:25:27.730
<v Speaker 1>behavior were at least in part because she was being

0:25:27.770 --> 0:25:31.090
<v Speaker 1>deliberately poisoned. None of the reporting that I've read about

0:25:31.110 --> 0:25:33.980
<v Speaker 1>this case covered this, but I definitely wondered, did she

0:25:34.060 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>ever really have an illness at all? Or was this

0:25:36.420 --> 0:25:40.210
<v Speaker 1>all Luke's doing? This may shock you or you may

0:25:40.250 --> 0:25:43.770
<v Speaker 1>have figured it out by now, but Luke was also Dr.

0:25:43.910 --> 0:25:48.940
<v Speaker 1>Andrea Bowden and every single friend in the online support group.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Luke used his online personas to completely manipulate Carol. If

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>she became confused or exhausted, the online doctor could attribute

0:25:57.420 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it to her illness. If she questioned any of Dr.

0:26:00.060 --> 0:26:03.380
<v Speaker 1>Andrea's treatments, the other doctor who was also Luke DeWitt

0:26:03.780 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or the other supposed patients could encourage her to keep

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>taking the health tonics. Luke controlled Carol's entire online world.

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.610
<v Speaker 1>And Luke was obviously there in person as well to

0:26:15.670 --> 0:26:18.770
<v Speaker 1>make Carol her health tonics, the ones that were laced

0:26:18.970 --> 0:26:23.130
<v Speaker 1>with deadly drugs. To me, Luke DeWitt definitely fits the

0:26:23.170 --> 0:26:25.670
<v Speaker 1>profile of a red-collar criminal pretty much to the T.

0:26:26.380 --> 0:26:30.180
<v Speaker 1>This has all the hallmarks of a fraud detection homicide. Remember,

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>red-collar criminals strike out when their fraud is about to

0:26:32.980 --> 0:26:37.620
<v Speaker 1>be exposed. So usually there's an inciting incident. What was

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the inciting incident here that pushed Luke to kill Carol

0:26:40.500 --> 0:26:43.780
<v Speaker 1>and Steven when his deception had been going on at

0:26:43.820 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that point for years? It turned out that shortly before

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.510
<v Speaker 1>Carol and Steven died, police found evidence that they were

0:26:50.530 --> 0:26:53.210
<v Speaker 1>getting more and more uncomfortable about Luke spending so much

0:26:53.230 --> 0:26:56.650
<v Speaker 1>time at their house. Steven felt that Luke stayed too long,

0:26:57.050 --> 0:27:00.150
<v Speaker 1>involved himself excessively in Carol's life and upset her with

0:27:00.190 --> 0:27:04.100
<v Speaker 1>what Steven described as mind games. they were finally catching

0:27:04.220 --> 0:27:07.100
<v Speaker 1>on to Luke. Carol said sometimes she felt as though

0:27:07.140 --> 0:27:10.980
<v Speaker 1>Luke was following her. But Stephen discussed those concerns with

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>someone who he believed understood Carol's health and the family dynamic, Dr.

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Andrea Bowden. And of course, Andrea, who was actually Luke DeWitt,

0:27:19.060 --> 0:27:23.390
<v Speaker 1>defended himself and said Luke was caring and helpful. But

0:27:23.430 --> 0:27:28.890
<v Speaker 1>then Stephen began discussing his concerns with Luke. So for once, Dr.

0:27:28.930 --> 0:27:33.340
<v Speaker 1>Bowden hadn't calmed the situation down. Stephen began telling Luke

0:27:33.380 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>effectively he didn't want him around the house so much.

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Luke knew he was running out of time. So in

0:27:39.180 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the weeks before their deaths, Stephen and Carol were preparing

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.100
<v Speaker 1>to put distance between themselves and Luke DeWitt. They also

0:27:46.180 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>told Ellie they wanted to give her access to the

0:27:48.460 --> 0:27:52.850
<v Speaker 1>business passwords. Luke controlled the passwords, but because they were

0:27:52.890 --> 0:27:55.850
<v Speaker 1>considering removing him from the business, they were reportedly worried

0:27:55.870 --> 0:27:58.830
<v Speaker 1>that if he reacted badly, he might interfere with the

0:27:58.890 --> 0:28:02.740
<v Speaker 1>company's computer systems or records. Of course, unbeknownst to them,

0:28:03.180 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>he was preparing to do something much worse. But investigators

0:28:07.700 --> 0:28:10.030
<v Speaker 1>still needed to answer some questions. They needed to figure

0:28:10.100 --> 0:28:12.790
<v Speaker 1>out how Luke could have killed them when he wasn't

0:28:12.870 --> 0:28:16.850
<v Speaker 1>even there the day that Carol and Steven died. CCTV

0:28:16.930 --> 0:28:20.250
<v Speaker 1>showed Luke arriving at the Baxter home at approximately 10.20

0:28:20.250 --> 0:28:23.350
<v Speaker 1>on the morning before they died. Now, the prosecution's case

0:28:23.590 --> 0:28:26.570
<v Speaker 1>was that Luke used fentanyl patches that were left over

0:28:26.610 --> 0:28:30.540
<v Speaker 1>from his father's treatment to lace their liver cleanser smoothies.

0:28:31.340 --> 0:28:34.180
<v Speaker 1>Luke made sure they drank the smoothies and later returned

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.700
<v Speaker 1>to the property at around 4 p.m. Now, prosecutors argued

0:28:37.740 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that when he came back to the house that day,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.900
<v Speaker 1>what he was actually doing was checking on the effects

0:28:41.940 --> 0:28:44.810
<v Speaker 1>of the drugs and removing evidence of how they had

0:28:44.830 --> 0:28:49.190
<v Speaker 1>been administered. Before leaving the Baxter house that evening, Luke

0:28:49.270 --> 0:28:54.070
<v Speaker 1>transferred 6,000 pounds from the Baxter's personal bank account into

0:28:54.170 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a business account he controlled. He described the transaction as

0:28:57.900 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a loan. Police believed Luke had put a camera inside

0:29:01.300 --> 0:29:03.700
<v Speaker 1>the house and that even though he wasn't physically there,

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>he was able to monitor what was going on. And

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.550
<v Speaker 1>that explained how he had been able to drug the

0:29:08.590 --> 0:29:11.810
<v Speaker 1>couple and watch the drugs take effect without physically being there.

0:29:12.770 --> 0:29:16.210
<v Speaker 1>And it just keeps getting worse because after Luke witnessed

0:29:16.250 --> 0:29:19.730
<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Carol gasping for breath, police say he actually

0:29:19.810 --> 0:29:22.390
<v Speaker 1>went out to dinner with their daughter Ellie and her

0:29:22.410 --> 0:29:26.690
<v Speaker 1>partner Marcus and acted completely normal. Even though at that

0:29:26.770 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>moment when he was eating dinner with her, By then,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:34.310
<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Carol were either dying or already dead. He

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.410
<v Speaker 1>watched them die and then calmly went to the house

0:29:37.470 --> 0:29:39.590
<v Speaker 1>and was a shoulder to cry on for Ellie the

0:29:39.630 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>next day. Investigators believed that Luke placed the empty fentanyl

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.940
<v Speaker 1>packets back in Carol's medications because they suspect he was

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.190
<v Speaker 1>trying to create a murder-suicide explanation. And this is common

0:29:54.230 --> 0:29:56.810
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of red collar criminals as well. If

0:29:56.870 --> 0:29:59.950
<v Speaker 1>you listen to the podcast, you'll know that even though

0:30:00.170 --> 0:30:02.810
<v Speaker 1>red collar criminals often believe that they are the smartest

0:30:02.830 --> 0:30:05.530
<v Speaker 1>person in the room, yet they very often do terrible

0:30:05.590 --> 0:30:09.550
<v Speaker 1>jobs at actually executing their schemes. Because for someone who

0:30:09.610 --> 0:30:14.540
<v Speaker 1>spent years methodically masterminding this horrific plan, Lute did a

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>terrible job of actually putting it together. The codicil he

0:30:18.180 --> 0:30:21.370
<v Speaker 1>faked was a total mess. Rather than being created in

0:30:21.410 --> 0:30:25.700
<v Speaker 1>November of 2022 as the document claims, investigators found evidence

0:30:25.740 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that Luke drafted it on his phone at 6.54 a.m.

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.830
<v Speaker 1>on the morning after the Baxters were found dead. So

0:30:33.250 --> 0:30:36.970
<v Speaker 1>was Luke's motive totally financial? Because yes, he stood to

0:30:37.010 --> 0:30:39.630
<v Speaker 1>benefit from Stephen and Carol's deaths, but it turned out

0:30:39.650 --> 0:30:42.490
<v Speaker 1>the scenario was a little more complicated than Luke merely

0:30:42.550 --> 0:30:47.580
<v Speaker 1>stealing money. because police say the business, Casplash, was struggling.

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.020
<v Speaker 1>They owed money to people. It turned out at one point,

0:30:51.140 --> 0:30:54.730
<v Speaker 1>Luke actually loaned the Baxters 15,000 pounds of his own

0:30:54.770 --> 0:30:56.930
<v Speaker 1>money so that they could put it into the company,

0:30:57.710 --> 0:31:01.210
<v Speaker 1>which is why police believe the fake codicil directed that

0:31:01.210 --> 0:31:03.830
<v Speaker 1>60,000 pounds from Stephen and Carol's estate would be injected

0:31:03.850 --> 0:31:07.470
<v Speaker 1>into the business. Luke wanted to get paid back. That

0:31:07.510 --> 0:31:10.950
<v Speaker 1>would give the business a cash infusion. And also, crucially,

0:31:11.210 --> 0:31:14.260
<v Speaker 1>Luke would retain control of the business. By the time

0:31:14.300 --> 0:31:18.060
<v Speaker 1>investigators finished assembling this evidence, this case was no longer

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>simply about two fatal doses of fentanyl. It was about

0:31:22.180 --> 0:31:26.830
<v Speaker 1>years of alleged manipulation. It involved fictitious doctors, made-up patients,

0:31:26.910 --> 0:31:32.210
<v Speaker 1>false friendships, a nail hidden inside Carol's body, fabricated illness,

0:31:32.250 --> 0:31:37.470
<v Speaker 1>stolen jewelry, and an apparently fraudulent document created after two

0:31:37.530 --> 0:31:40.930
<v Speaker 1>people were already dead. Most disturbing of all was the

0:31:40.970 --> 0:31:43.510
<v Speaker 1>possibility that Carol Baxter had spent the last few years

0:31:43.550 --> 0:31:46.870
<v Speaker 1>of her life believing she was becoming sicker, while the

0:31:46.930 --> 0:31:49.500
<v Speaker 1>person she trusted most to help take care of her

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.500
<v Speaker 1>was allegedly engineering both the illness and the elaborate fictional

0:31:54.540 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>world that explained it. This whole thing is mind-blowing to me.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Luke DeWitt denied murdering Stephen and Carol Baxter. And when

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.940
<v Speaker 1>this case went to trial, he would offer the jury

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.780
<v Speaker 1>a radically different explanation. not only for the deaths, but

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.620
<v Speaker 1>for the extraordinary cast of imaginary people who investigators found

0:32:13.660 --> 0:32:18.940
<v Speaker 1>living inside Luke's electronic devices. By February of 2024, prosecutors

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.260
<v Speaker 1>were ready to present their case against Luke DeWitt at

0:32:21.340 --> 0:32:25.210
<v Speaker 1>Chelmsford Crown Court. He faced two counts of murder, along

0:32:25.230 --> 0:32:28.010
<v Speaker 1>with charges related to fentanyl possession and the theft of

0:32:28.050 --> 0:32:32.820
<v Speaker 1>Carol Baxter's jewelry. He pleaded not guilty. The prosecution argued

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.100
<v Speaker 1>that by creating this network of fictitious people, he gained

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>control of Carol and Stephen's business and pretty much Carol's

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:44.130
<v Speaker 1>entire life. Luke started working for the Baxters around 2012

0:32:44.130 --> 0:32:47.330
<v Speaker 1>or 2013. He helped build the company's website and eventually

0:32:47.410 --> 0:32:51.470
<v Speaker 1>he became deeply involved with its technology and operations. Ellie

0:32:51.510 --> 0:32:54.550
<v Speaker 1>testified that her parents paid him about 15 pounds an hour.

0:32:55.530 --> 0:33:00.350
<v Speaker 1>Over time, the financial relationships became increasingly blurred. Luke loaned

0:33:00.410 --> 0:33:03.150
<v Speaker 1>money to Stephen and Carol's business. It came out in

0:33:03.210 --> 0:33:07.130
<v Speaker 1>court that he also personally loaned money to Ellie, more

0:33:07.170 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>than 7,000 pounds. In fact, the day before she discovered

0:33:10.740 --> 0:33:15.100
<v Speaker 1>her parents dead, Ellie testified she borrowed another 400 pounds

0:33:15.180 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>from Luke to pay for repairs to her car. So

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that meant the Baxter's death was not just an obvious

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.690
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to inherit a thriving company and become rich. That

0:33:24.730 --> 0:33:29.710
<v Speaker 1>business needed money. However, prosecutors argued that financial gain was

0:33:29.790 --> 0:33:33.890
<v Speaker 1>Luke's primary motive because they said Luke knew, given the

0:33:33.910 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>business's problems, it had no realistic means of ever repaying

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.220
<v Speaker 1>the money he put into it. So that's why the

0:33:40.260 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>prosecution claims he created the fake codicil. That way, he

0:33:43.740 --> 0:33:46.500
<v Speaker 1>would get his investment back and also profit from Stephen

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and Carol's deaths. That's also why the prosecution claimed that

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.430
<v Speaker 1>he stole the jewelry. But money doesn't completely explain this case.

0:33:54.020 --> 0:33:57.220
<v Speaker 1>Even investigators acknowledged they could not know precisely what was

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.580
<v Speaker 1>happening inside Luke DeWitt's mind. Money was part of it,

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.220
<v Speaker 1>but at sentencing, the judge went further into this ambiguity.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>The judge said that Luke's motive in his opinion was

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.290
<v Speaker 1>not simply this indirect financial gain. The judge believed that

0:34:11.330 --> 0:34:15.430
<v Speaker 1>what Luke really wanted was to control people. If the

0:34:15.530 --> 0:34:19.310
<v Speaker 1>sole objective had been money, much of this elaborate deception

0:34:19.450 --> 0:34:22.670
<v Speaker 1>would have been unnecessary. He didn't just forge paperwork or

0:34:22.710 --> 0:34:26.410
<v Speaker 1>steal from an account. According to the prosecution's evidence, Luke

0:34:26.450 --> 0:34:30.590
<v Speaker 1>spent years creating people who didn't exist and then having

0:34:30.630 --> 0:34:35.150
<v Speaker 1>those people manipulate the entire Baxter family. Luke admitted that, yes,

0:34:35.250 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he had created false identities. He testified Stephen had asked

0:34:38.980 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>him to do it. According to Luke, Stephen wanted Carol

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to have people she could communicate with and confide in.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.860
<v Speaker 1>She was lonely. So Luke said with Stephen's permission, he

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:53.470
<v Speaker 1>created these people for Carol. But the prosecution argued that

0:34:53.510 --> 0:34:55.370
<v Speaker 1>this didn't seem to make a lot of sense because

0:34:55.510 --> 0:34:59.590
<v Speaker 1>Stephen had corresponded with the fictional identities as well. And

0:35:00.090 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>from all the communication that police had seen, it seemed

0:35:02.500 --> 0:35:05.020
<v Speaker 1>as though Stephen believed these people were real. So why

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.620
<v Speaker 1>would he do that if they were fictional? Luke DeWitt

0:35:08.700 --> 0:35:11.780
<v Speaker 1>was found guilty of murdering Stephen and Carol Baxter. He

0:35:11.820 --> 0:35:14.420
<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of

0:35:14.420 --> 0:35:18.290
<v Speaker 1>37 years. The judge described the murders as cruel and

0:35:18.350 --> 0:35:22.530
<v Speaker 1>senseless and emphasized the devastation that Luke DeWitt had inflicted

0:35:22.790 --> 0:35:26.490
<v Speaker 1>on Stephen and Carol's children. After Luke was convicted, police

0:35:26.510 --> 0:35:29.300
<v Speaker 1>said they believed that he was so dangerous that he

0:35:29.340 --> 0:35:33.150
<v Speaker 1>could have killed again. According to the BBC, authorities did

0:35:33.210 --> 0:35:36.170
<v Speaker 1>review what they had uncovered to determine whether there were

0:35:36.230 --> 0:35:40.230
<v Speaker 1>reasons to examine other deaths connected to Luke, including those

0:35:40.270 --> 0:35:44.650
<v Speaker 1>of his father and his grandfather. In August of 2026,

0:35:44.650 --> 0:35:47.650
<v Speaker 1>they gave an update. Law enforcement announced that they had

0:35:47.750 --> 0:35:51.490
<v Speaker 1>closed all of their inquiries. As I mentioned before, there

0:35:51.570 --> 0:35:54.350
<v Speaker 1>was a documentary about the case on ITV called The

0:35:54.370 --> 0:35:58.650
<v Speaker 1>Millionaire Murders. Ellie appeared on this documentary. She told the

0:35:58.670 --> 0:36:00.850
<v Speaker 1>BBC she had appeared on the show to clear her

0:36:00.890 --> 0:36:03.990
<v Speaker 1>name because she said that a lot of people had

0:36:04.050 --> 0:36:06.870
<v Speaker 1>shunned her after wrongly suspecting that she had a role

0:36:06.910 --> 0:36:09.670
<v Speaker 1>in her parents' deaths. She said that they would openly

0:36:09.730 --> 0:36:12.090
<v Speaker 1>stare at her when she went into the shops. And

0:36:12.130 --> 0:36:15.230
<v Speaker 1>she said even after Luke's arrest and conviction, some people

0:36:15.310 --> 0:36:17.570
<v Speaker 1>still whisper that she was the mastermind behind the whole

0:36:17.590 --> 0:36:20.810
<v Speaker 1>thing because apparently they can't believe that a nice, normal

0:36:20.850 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>bloke like Luke would do something like this. Ellie later

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.450
<v Speaker 1>gave birth to a healthy baby girl. Her parents, who

0:36:28.490 --> 0:36:30.830
<v Speaker 1>had been looking forward to retirement and more time with

0:36:30.850 --> 0:36:35.410
<v Speaker 1>their family, never got to meet their granddaughter. The community

0:36:35.510 --> 0:36:37.370
<v Speaker 1>is also reeling. They're trying to figure out if they

0:36:37.430 --> 0:36:40.890
<v Speaker 1>missed any signs. No one who was interviewed thought that

0:36:40.930 --> 0:36:43.710
<v Speaker 1>Luke was capable of violence. But as people who have

0:36:43.730 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>listened to this podcast before know, many red-collar criminals start

0:36:47.630 --> 0:36:50.620
<v Speaker 1>out as white-collar criminals like Luke did. And many of

0:36:50.660 --> 0:36:55.340
<v Speaker 1>them have zero history of violence until they do. Red-collar

0:36:55.380 --> 0:37:00.620
<v Speaker 1>offenders are described as having antisocial qualities such as extreme entitlement, narcissism,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.060
<v Speaker 1>and psychopathy. I'm not a medical professional, but I would

0:37:04.140 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>guess that entitlement and psychopathy could be present in someone

0:37:07.900 --> 0:37:11.950
<v Speaker 1>who would manipulate people in this way for years. Ellie

0:37:12.050 --> 0:37:14.290
<v Speaker 1>later said that her parents reached out to Luke because

0:37:14.310 --> 0:37:16.850
<v Speaker 1>they felt bad for him, because he had lost his father,

0:37:17.170 --> 0:37:19.770
<v Speaker 1>and because he had cancer, which of course was not

0:37:19.810 --> 0:37:24.510
<v Speaker 1>even true. it brought up some really interesting discussions in Essex,

0:37:24.590 --> 0:37:27.430
<v Speaker 1>in their community, and around the globe. And that's one

0:37:27.450 --> 0:37:29.570
<v Speaker 1>of the main reasons why I wanted to cover this case.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.580
<v Speaker 1>Because normally, when we talk about grooming, we're thinking about

0:37:33.660 --> 0:37:37.140
<v Speaker 1>kids or young teens in sexual situations. But this was

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.580
<v Speaker 1>another type of grooming. Grooming of seniors, which is much

0:37:41.660 --> 0:37:45.540
<v Speaker 1>less talked about. The Essex police put out a statement

0:37:45.580 --> 0:37:49.510
<v Speaker 1>saying they cooperated with the Millionaire Murders documentary, partly to

0:37:49.570 --> 0:37:52.310
<v Speaker 1>raise awareness about this issue. They teamed up with a

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.020
<v Speaker 1>UK charity called Hourglass to raise awareness of abuse of

0:37:56.060 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>older people. That charity is specific to the UK, but

0:38:00.580 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>as someone who works on these cases all the time

0:38:02.940 --> 0:38:06.380
<v Speaker 1>involving cons and fraud, this is a massive issue and

0:38:06.420 --> 0:38:09.210
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a huge problem in the United States as well.

0:38:09.770 --> 0:38:13.470
<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many cases and families where manipulation and

0:38:13.570 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>lies involving older people lead to tragic results. I'm hoping

0:38:18.620 --> 0:38:21.260
<v Speaker 1>that showing what it can look like might help someone

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.380
<v Speaker 1>out there if they have a friend or family member

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:28.180
<v Speaker 1>going through something similar. One friend of the Baxter's, Kate Dawson,

0:38:28.620 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>was quoted as saying, he was never rude, but just

0:38:31.620 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>very odd, an odd character. He wouldn't say a lot.

0:38:35.020 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He'd just be sitting around having a cup of tea

0:38:37.300 --> 0:38:43.780
<v Speaker 1>with them, but he was always there. I'm Katherine Townsend.

0:38:44.290 --> 0:38:47.590
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0:38:50.790 --> 0:38:53.410
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0:38:53.430 --> 0:38:56.780
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