1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: What is Up? 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets 3 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Stuff podcast. Winding down here as the season goes on. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: One of the last home series of the year, up 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: against the Cincinnati Reds. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Mets took the. 7 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Final game of the series, lost the first two though, 8 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: so wasn't necessarily the easiest series, but you know, we 9 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: still got to talk about it as we always do 10 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: till the end of the season. 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James Weirdly in Ohio 19 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: for an episode when we're playing a team from Ohio. 20 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: How's your weekend been? 21 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 22 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Really funny coincidence, but nice that I got to be 23 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: out and about in Ohio this weekend. Actually be able 24 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: to catch the Mets games like at bars on local televisions. 25 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: But great wedding, a great weekend. My good friend Ross 26 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: was here for his wedding. That's, as I tell you, guys, 27 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: a lot. David and Will Betnar's cousin was hanging out 28 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: with the Betnars at the wedding. Not Dave, but the 29 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: rest of the fam. They were. They loved taking shots 30 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: to me because they're like, where where's your buddy that 31 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: works in baseball media? Like what was he got to say? 32 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: But that's like super knowledgeable baseball family. Just also great 33 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: to hang out with, like old friends from college. Wonderful 34 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: wedding in general, first wedding I've ever been to in 35 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: my life that wasn't thrown by Italians, and I have 36 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: to say, really simple, really nice, really easy. No theatrics 37 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: like no drama, no drama, very little drama, hint to drama. 38 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: Still a wedding, Still a still a wedding. Yeah, amazing speeches. 39 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Shout out Ross the best man Tai also member of 40 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: our fantasy baseball league. Was he did a great speech. 41 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Just really really wonderful, wonderful day. 42 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, love wins. Yeah, I mean, weddings are fun. 43 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: It's we're at an interesting age. I'm sure some people 44 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: listening have gone through it, or some of you are 45 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: gonna be going through it soon. 46 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: You're a little bit younger. 47 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: When your friends start getting married, going to their weddings 48 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: always a fun time. One of my friends from college 49 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: got married during COVID, like in October that year. 50 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Went to his wedding in North Carolina. 51 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: Absolute blast, especially because North Carolina had like no rules, 52 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: so it was like, oh my god, I get to 53 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: be outside and be around people, like just in open space. 54 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: It was a blasting. I'm excited for the next couple 55 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: that will be coming up as well. 56 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. My buddy Ross and his wife Erica, 57 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: they are sports addicts. They love sports, they love gambling, 58 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: they love doing absolutely everything. And one thing that's like 59 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: my favorite thing about them is they bought the house 60 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: last year and before they got any furniture, before did 61 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: any home renovations, they mounted three televisions on the walls 62 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: so they could watch as many games as they wanted. 63 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: And like so many people who gave their speeches, the 64 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: pastor who married them mentioned the fact that like sports 65 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: watching is something that cowboys touchdown. Damn it. That brought 66 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: them together. Sorry, guys watching the Jets game too week 67 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: It's a hot season now football, baby, But it was 68 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: just yeah, just cool, cool to be around, like nice 69 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: people people had known for a long time, reconnect with 70 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: some old friends. Wonderful weekend weddings. Aw was a wonderful, 71 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: amazing time. Yeah, super fun time. 72 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: Bringing it back to the baseball here, Game one we 73 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: had Roberto Clemente Day, so players were able to rock 74 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: number twenty one without the name on the back of 75 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: their jersey in honor of Roberto Clemente. Lindor, of course, 76 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: has been Clemente Award nominee. He was wearing number twenty one. 77 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz was in the ballpark that night. He was 78 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: wearing number twenty one as well, obviously not playing yet. 79 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: Really cool event. I feel like it's gonna eventually turn 80 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: into a Jackie Robinson thing where they retire Roberto Clemente's 81 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: number throughout the league because he's just another one of 82 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: those guys who was bigger than baseball. Obviously one of 83 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: the better players that we have seen play the game, 84 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: as well as just an incredible humanitarian. 85 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he kind of goes a little 86 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: bit lost in baseball lore because he was on some 87 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Pirates teams that were good, but it was like not 88 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: really at the time when the Pirates were at the 89 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: peak of their powers, which happened I think a little 90 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: bit after he tragically passed away Rex The Pirates had 91 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: those great teams late sixties, early seventies and Clemente, wait right, 92 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: double check me on that one. I'm gonna double check 93 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: you on that one. But yeah, keep saying what you 94 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: had to say about Roberto. But just he was like 95 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: an all time baseball player. Just he just he had 96 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: all five tools. There's some great highlights of him from 97 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: back in the day where he was able to throw 98 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: guys out like basically from the wall, like on a 99 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: fly to like second or third base. Incredible power, ended 100 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: on exactly three thousand hits, which is one of the 101 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: weirdest caveats I think his entire career, and just also 102 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: the iron him being this incredible humanitarian and passing away 103 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: on his plan rider. I think he was going to 104 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: help Nicaragua help with earthquake relief. But yes, he's just 105 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys that kind of makes baseball baseball. 106 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell the story of the game without 107 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: mentioning Erberta Clemente being the talent, he was, the person, 108 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: he was, the impacts had in the game, and it's 109 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: really wonderful that we have this award for him year 110 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: after he had. Every single team gets a nominee for 111 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Berta Clemente and Is Lindor this year, and I think 112 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: he embodies with Roberto Clemente bent to embodi really well. 113 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Clemente two time World Series winner, nineteen sixty World 114 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Series against the Yankees and then nineteen seventy one he 115 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: was the MVP against the Orioles. Only twice he's been 116 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: in the World Series he won them both times. Yeah, 117 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: just an incredible player. Shout to also friend of the podcast, 118 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: Danny Torres. He does like an entire Roberto Clemente podcast 119 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: where he interviews players and talks to them about the 120 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: impact that Roberto Clemente had on them on the game. 121 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: He's had guys I think like David Wright, Curtis Granderson, 122 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: maybe even Francisco Lindor, Carlos beltron On. So if you 123 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: guys are interested in that, you should definitely go check 124 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: it out. Really good stuff over there. Just again, one 125 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: of the best players to ever do it. Just all 126 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: around on and off the field, and I got a 127 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: feeling twenty one is gonna be retired across the league. 128 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: At some point. Also funny, that's a multiple forty two. 129 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: That is, yeah half forty two. Yeah right, kind of weird, 130 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't put those together. Yeah, if that 131 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: were that happened, I'd be suport of it. I think 132 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: that'd be really cool. And then getting onto the field 133 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: this game for the Mets, something really interesting when the 134 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: lineups dropped. Rodny Marisio got his first major league star 135 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: third base position. He didn't even play very much in 136 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, and we know the Mets have had 137 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot of third base prospects come through last few years, 138 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: namely Ret Beaty and Mark Vientos, but Marito looked like 139 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: a pretty natural fit over there. It looked very comfortable 140 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: with the hot corner, and we know he has the 141 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: arm to support that position and looked looked like kind 142 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: of a good thing. 143 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: He had the one awkward play I don't remember if 144 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: it was in the fourth or the fifth inning, where 145 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: they eventually got a run because of it, but he 146 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: kind of backed up, he got in between, he was 147 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: caught in between of whether you should charge it or 148 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: take a step back and wait for the ball to 149 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: come to him, got caught in between, ended up like 150 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: clanking off the top of his wrist. And again, that's 151 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: gonna be from not playing the position, even though like, yes, 152 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: he's played shortstop, he's played second base. Third base is 153 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: so such a drastically different position than either of those. 154 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: The ball gets on you so much quicker. It's why 155 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: they call it the hot corner. It's not necessarily because 156 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: it's like the hottest place to play. It's because the 157 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: ball gets on you quickly. He'll he'll adjust. He looks 158 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: pretty solid. He's for sure got the arm. 159 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: We saw him make some really really nice throws. 160 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: Cannon of an arm. And as long as that bats 161 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: in the line, if that's really all I care about, 162 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't care how he plays in the field at all. 163 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it doesn't it doesn't. Don't carry plays 164 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: the field. But he nice to have a you know, 165 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: plus on both sides of the ball. Sure, totally. But 166 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: we'll get to Marisio's offense a little bit. I want 167 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: to talk a lot about David Peterson's start Friday night too, 168 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: before we get deeper into the series, because I think 169 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: it was probably the most interesting things that happened on 170 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: the field for the Mets of the series, because this 171 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: weird David Peterson reality we're living in just continues to persist, 172 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: but also continues to astounds. Just to have you know, 173 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: a little a little phiosophical there for a second. His 174 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: final line, which is obscure but still becoming just very 175 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: David Peterson five to two thirds, six hits, three runs, 176 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: two earned, but the one earned run was on his 177 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: own wild pitch. I think it's like one of these 178 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: situations where Richard Hernandez Twitter follower that happened today in 179 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: the game, and so we're happened twice this weekend where 180 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: there was a while a while bit sure pass ball 181 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: that wound up like a Rugby score, but yeah, does 182 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: not earn run for the pitcher, but almost like kind 183 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: of like the pitcher makes an air. Sometimes maybe it 184 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: should be, but it's just too hard to have these 185 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: caveats and baseball scoring. But that Peterson also two walks 186 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: and in the five and two thirds and ten strikeouts. 187 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like my dad when we were leaving 188 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: the game, because I was there on Friday with them, 189 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: and he was like I may I make shureke gouts 190 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: to Peterson have I'm like, I don't know, six, he's 191 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: like ten. 192 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I was like ten. So when did that happen? 193 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Like it was the he does it every It's so sneaky, 194 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: And maybe because we had higher expectations for him coming 195 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: into the season and he kind of scuffled a little 196 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: bit at the beginning of the year, starting to pitch 197 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: twel towards the end. 198 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I started pitchwell towards the end. 199 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: But is this just kind of what we saw last 200 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: year that got us excited and we just have a 201 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: new perspective on it, or is there something different going 202 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: on with David Peterson? 203 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: You think? I think there's something very different happening with 204 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: David Peterson. We talked a lot in the beginning of 205 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the season how the slither was the pitch last year 206 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: that was the Chase pitch, and then this year's it 207 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: they kind of tried to make his primary pitch and 208 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: it was more of like a tight cutting slider, almost 209 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: similar to a color but a little more a little 210 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: more slide on it, and it wasn't coming in as hard, 211 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: so that wasn't the thing. But we've seen over the 212 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: last few months, David Peterson has reworked that slide and 213 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I've been matching to you guys. That has much less 214 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: horizontal movement, a much more vertical movement as coming through, 215 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: and it's also coming a little bit slower than it 216 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: was last year. And this was the best result he's 217 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: got in the slider in any start I've ever seen him. 218 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: And I just say that because the red swung at 219 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: it eight times, and they swung and missed on it 220 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: all eight times. Did they make contact one pitch. They 221 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't even hit the foul ball on the pitch He 222 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: threw thirteen of them totally. They swung and missed on 223 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: eight times out of the strike zone. I think there 224 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: might have been one or two call strikes in there 225 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: as well. But the important thing here is that David 226 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Peterson's turning the slide into a pitch that, rather than 227 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: playing off his fastball, something we heard him talk about 228 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot last year, still does a little bit because 229 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: his fastball well doesn't have like the crazy backspin, the 230 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: rising effect that some of the best fastballs in the 231 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: league have still has similar to that even without being 232 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: like the level effectiveness as some of the best ones 233 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: in the league like that, but his singer, especially as 234 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: the pitch that has come back to him a lot more. 235 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: And he's been throwing some curveballs too. And where that 236 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: slide there is right now, it has a spit access 237 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: very similar to his curveball, but it's dropping about fifteen 238 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: twelve inches less and coming in about eight miles an 239 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: hour harder, and the pitch has being in the zone 240 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more, and the hitters are still swing 241 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: and missing at it. And if I compare it to 242 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: a slider from last year, and the spin is much 243 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: more similar now to the curveball that he throws than 244 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: the slider he threw last year, I think all that's 245 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: coming together to create a pitch that again probably while 246 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: the old slider was a good pitch objectively, you kind 247 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: of need to create good pitches among the repertoire you 248 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: have because your pitch is only as good as the 249 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: other pitches it plays off. Of like you can have 250 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: the best fastball in the league, but that's the only 251 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: thing you have. It's not going to take you so far. Exactly. 252 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: The fact that this slider kind of fits in a 253 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: little more snugly in his repertoire and creates a little 254 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: bit deception between the fastball, his curveball, and his sinker, 255 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: especially as much as he's throwing the fastball and the 256 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: sinker and mixing and matching those two as much, because 257 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: as we know David Pearson, the last couple of years, 258 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: neither of those pitches have ever taken the step to 259 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: become elite. So when those pitches aren't elite, you kind 260 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: of have to mix and match and use them in 261 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: their own roles, in their own situations whenever you can 262 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: find them, and then focus on that location. So seeing 263 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: him get this new slider and seeing how efective has 264 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: been the small sample being able again with this all 265 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: like this all boxcer reading. This is using Baseball Savon 266 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Brooks baseballs even could be like a pitch tracking issue 267 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: with Baseball Savon. This might just be all curveballs now, 268 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: and it's just like there's a little bit of a 269 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: gradient because they're less consistent. But based on what I've 270 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: seen compared to the slither last year, you can see 271 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: the adjustment happening. You can see the changes in movement 272 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: per month, you can see the change of spin access 273 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: when you go from last year this year, Like that 274 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: is something that I think is real, is important, and 275 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: you saw it helping be really really effective Friday Night. 276 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: The first few winnings, the Reds couldn't really touch him. 277 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: They only really started to get around on him in 278 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: the fifth and sixth. Nick Senzel gut punch, third time 279 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: home run, third time three ye oldre was a bit 280 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: of a gut punch, but still overall good start. 281 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he did a really good job kept 282 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: the Mets in this game. Also helps some Pete Alonso 283 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: hitting his forty fifth home run of the year absolutely 284 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: smoked it. A little batflip in there as well. Always 285 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: loved to see that from Pete. DJ Stewart doing the 286 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: thing that kind of just getting used to it with 287 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: him now making nice catches in the field, made a 288 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: good catch in the game three as well. 289 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: On Sunday. DJ Stewart just keeps doing his thing. 290 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Someone hit a ball so where me and my parents 291 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: are sitting, we were kind of near the friends of 292 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: family section of the rets over it, you know where 293 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, right like down. 294 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 1: The third baseline. 295 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ball got hit from DJ Stewart's bat 296 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: into the friends and family section. 297 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: What just happened in the Jets game. I see a 298 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: reaction that just scrambled for twelve try to get the 299 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: field going his thirty seconds leven and a half good podcasting, 300 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: Go Jets, Go Jets, even though I'm Commanders fan, but 301 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: got hit into the friends of family section. All the 302 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Rents players are like twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty years old, 303 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: so they all have their wives there with like infant babies, 304 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and they're all screaming because of baseball is coming to 305 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: them as they're holding their baby, and like, luckily nobody 306 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: got hurt, didn't hit anybody, but there was like a 307 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: lot of shrieking and like oh my god, Oh my goodness, 308 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And there was a guy who I 309 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: think even listens to the podcast, like an older man 310 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: in his fifty sixties, who was like so screaming because 311 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: someone got the ball. He's like, oh my god, I 312 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: love DJ Stewart. 313 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: One of the guys in the family section gave it 314 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: to him, and he was like losing his mind as 315 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: if like he won the liars, like. 316 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: I got a foul ball from DJ Stewart. 317 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: Like DJ's he's living on is a little bit of 318 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: a cult little hero here in Mets world. 319 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: He is, he's a local legend and he just keeps 320 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: playing well. And this game did get the win, got 321 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: taken out of sales at the end. Here Jonathan India 322 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Hill a late home run to give the Reds to win. 323 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan India a little homecoming. As we mentioned Thursday's episode. 324 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Also Zach Zach another twenty yard run for Zach Wills 325 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: thirty seconds left, one time out, Come on, Go Go go. 326 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Also just knows your dad went and you guys two 327 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: days in a row to City Field. 328 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we went a couple of days in a row 329 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: because my parents they're just they I don't think they're 330 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: gonna be able to make it to any other games 331 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: the rest of the year, so they wanted to make 332 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: sure that they could come out to. 333 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: At least one more and they were hoping to see 334 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: a win. They didn't. 335 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: They did not, but they had a good time. Also 336 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: bumped into a good friend of ours, Sammy, saw him 337 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: at the game. I was going to get the Buffalo 338 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: chicken sandwich donut thing, which is just still so incredible. 339 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: If you guys haven't gotten it. It's on the third 340 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: base side market behind home plate, like literally go up 341 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: the Robinson rotunda, go left, you'll go to the first 342 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: market thing in there. They got a glazed donut with 343 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: a buffalo chicken sandwich in the midd It's absolutely delicious. 344 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Was getting one of those. 345 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: Checked out, and I'm like, Wow, that guy's got a 346 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Dion Sanders, like old school Reds Jersey. 347 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: That's so awesome. 348 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, I know who 349 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: that guy is. That's Sammy. I know that walk from anywhere. 350 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: So I saw him from back smack him on the back. 351 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, what's up, and ended up hanging 352 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: out with him for the last two innings. Also speaking 353 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: of Ellie de la Cruz, because again in the ballpark 354 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: for this one, he might be one of the most 355 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: popular players in baseball right now. I know he's not 356 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: playing particularly well, but he didn't play in this game. 357 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: But he's kind of popped out of the dugout in 358 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: the like seventh, eighth, and ninth inning and was standing 359 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: up on the ledge by you know where the fence 360 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: would be, and there were swarms, swarms of people, at 361 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: least one hundred people in the section screaming NonStop Ellie, Ellie. 362 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: He was turned around smiling taking pictures, giving finger guns 363 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: to people. He's very cool guy. I was shocked to 364 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: see how popular he was though I thought that was 365 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: more of just like the diehard baseball fans. But he 366 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: had like eight ten year old kids like losing their 367 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: mind that Ellie de la Cruz was standing there. 368 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool to say that is super cool. 369 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: And Ellie has become just this larger than figure just 370 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: being a twenty one year old like sixty six, the dreadlocks, 371 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: the Crazy speeds home to first. And you did mention 372 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the fact he hasn't been playing well. He didn't really 373 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: do much right home about this series. I even think 374 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: he only played two of the games. Correct, Yeah, he 375 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: didn't play on Friday Night. He is though, as he's 376 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: not getting bad sech Wilson, Oh my god, he is, 377 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: while he's not getting really like the results that you 378 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: want to see, Like the home runs have drive up 379 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, even the singles drive up a little bit, 380 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: the bating average has gone down. He's doing so many 381 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: of the underlying things so much better than he was 382 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: doing when he was at his hottest, and that when 383 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: you could see a player doing that. He's going through 384 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: the struggles on the surface, but everything underneath actually getting better. 385 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: His streckout race dropping, his walk rates increasing like crazy, 386 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: he's chase rates dropping. He is he is a monster 387 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: in waiting, like there is absolutely no ceiling to what 388 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: he can do as a baseball player in his career. 389 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: He's looking great at shortstop defensively, people were a little 390 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: concerned with that originally two based on OAA, he's one 391 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: of the top in the league. He's only played two 392 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: thirds of the season, and his arm, as everyone knows, 393 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. He can throw the ball ninety six miles 394 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: an hour from short to first. He's he has everything 395 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: he'd ever want, including the personality, including the though has 396 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: some leadership qualities, it seems like, and it's really cool 397 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: to see like a polarizing star like that young in 398 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: his career have people from all fandoms come out and 399 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: be like, I want to see this guy play. It 400 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: has had a little bit that feel based on what 401 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: you're describing, is like when Joe wasn't town where it's 402 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: just like I want to see Elie de la Cruz. 403 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean especially like Cincinnati, tiny, tiny market, So 404 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: for him to have that poll really cool to see. 405 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: But that was it for Game one, let's just lost 406 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: that one. Nothing can really do about it. Game two, 407 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: another tough loss. I mean, the Mets like we're hitting 408 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: the ball well in this one, but they just could 409 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: not get them to land. 410 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Really, no, couldn't. Nimmo had three harded balls, nothing to 411 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: show for it. They just kind of just one of 412 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the games. They're finding gloves and it's just kind of frustrating. 413 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: This was Andrew Abbott, a picture who we talked about 414 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: in the preview on Thursday, who started off really hot 415 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: but has really been kind of tailing off a little bit, 416 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: and they got to him. They were finding his fastball, 417 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: and you guys got taken out. And then the Reds 418 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: bullpen really did a good job to keep the Mets 419 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: down the whole game and just kind of find a 420 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: way to score enough to beat them. A lot of 421 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: that was mcguil just having another McGill game where he 422 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: just like grizzed his teeth and got as many outs 423 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: as he could, but he wasn't really you know, missing 424 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: that many bats. His fastbaff loss. He was back up though. 425 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: That was cool. That was his big with pitching this one. 426 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: He also threw sixty four percent of the time, because 427 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like he had much going with those 428 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: any of those off speeds are breaking balls. The slatherer 429 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: was meh. And he also threw just kind of the 430 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: same amount of change ups of curve balls he threw 431 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: that slitherer, But nothing really that much in this game 432 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: besides just a mess. Just it's kind of lost the 433 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: regular game they lost. 434 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got to see two whole Alvarez, 435 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: which is good because he hit the ball hard, got 436 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: a couple of hits I think had of RBI or 437 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: two in this one as well. 438 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: Mauricio up in the five hole. 439 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Seems like the Mets are kind of getting a little 440 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: creative with the lineup, which is nice to see. I mean, 441 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: I want to see these guys swinging the bat a 442 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: little bit more, and it's good to see them starting 443 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: to move guys around a little bit in spots that eventually, 444 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: maybe one day we could see them in a little 445 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: bit more regularly. I know, Alvarez, it seems like it's 446 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: gonna be one day on, one day off, one day on, 447 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: one day off with him pretty much so towards the 448 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: end of the year, probably Key continued to expect that, 449 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: but glad to see him swinging the bat better swung 450 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: it well in Game three as well. Uh, just like 451 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: a little things here and there. But they're gonna lose. 452 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: They're gonna lose games like it's gonna happen college football 453 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: day too. I mean, I was locked into South Carolina Georgia. 454 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: I thought I thought we were gonna do it. I 455 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: really thought we were gonna upset them. It looked so 456 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: good in. 457 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: The first half. Buck guys covered. Buck guys had a 458 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: great day. And also this is happening during the wedding. 459 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: As I said, the couple is just updig both Buck guys, 460 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: both addicted to sports. And there was like one TV 461 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: in the place that had the game on. And this 462 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: is just how psychohis State fans are. Even in the 463 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: first half, I think by the end of it, it 464 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: was like forty two to ten and there was like 465 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty of us just glued to the screen. We're just like, 466 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I want to see some plays. And also I do 467 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: want to share because this was the day of the wedding. 468 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: One more story about my friend and his wife that 469 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: kind of it comes back to baseball. Eric. Our family 470 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: huge Cleveland sports fans. They formerly Indians nawvig Guardians. They 471 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: love them. And Ross has kind of bounced around his 472 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: baseball fandom, as I'll say that nicely in his Wow 473 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: he grew up loving Derek Geether and then he has 474 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: family from Chicago, he claims, and like the Cubs for 475 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: a little while, and now he has you know, Dave 476 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: on the Pirates who route to the Pirates. But yeah, 477 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: ty Ty made a lot of comments in his best 478 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: man speech about all the teams that Ross like growing up, 479 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: and he really seems to bounce around a bit. Yeah, 480 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I know the guy. You're not even picking winners necessarily, 481 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I kind of winners. But the Cubs. He really timed 482 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the Cubs thing really well, like like like five years 483 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: and he got the best five years. But every time 484 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: he was talking about the fans, like all of us 485 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: on the groom section were just like screaming, like cackling, laughing. 486 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Some of her dog barks at him. But so Ross 487 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: and Erica started dating when we were in college, and 488 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: it was right around the time that the then Indians 489 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: were playing the Cubs in the World Series as a 490 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: contentious Midwest World Series for two teams who had at 491 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: the time the two longest. I believe World Series droughts 492 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: in all of basebes and when they just started dating, 493 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: like really started dating. And I remember when the Cleveland 494 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: lost the series. Erica, who's so sweet, she's so nice, 495 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: so shy, just like a wonderful woman all around. You'd 496 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: never expect this, but she's rabbed, crazy sports fan, crazy competitive. 497 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: We were watching in a bar and she reared back 498 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and cracked the wall. I'm happy he's not. I'm happy 499 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: to listening to the show because he was not only telling 500 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: the story. But I know I'm safe from all the 501 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: ohiow people, unless maybe some of the Cincinntia guys listen episode. 502 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: It might get back to them. But her hand hurt 503 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: and she went the next day. She busted her head 504 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: after they lost the World Series. Go to Rossell, like, 505 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a keeper, dude, that's a good one. 506 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: But she's willing to punch you all over baseball. Yeah. 507 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Her dad mentioned that his speech too, was really really, 508 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: really funny, but yeah it was. It was good stuff again, 509 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: just the couples. I love sports Man. 510 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's nice, good, good for them, Congratulations 511 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: to the happy couple. 512 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad for them. Now we got to move on 513 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: to Game three, Sunday's game of mattin a going on 514 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: during football Sunday. As as Zach Wilson is really trying 515 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: to storm the Jets back against the Cowboys, commander's commander 516 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: is not looking like good either. Yeah, they're they're bad. 517 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: I think they're just kind of ron Rivera is not 518 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: a good coach, so they just count the days down 519 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: to Eric Banamy can just take over the team. 520 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, but something else cool will happened in the lineups 521 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: dropped in Sunday's game. We have too Holme ma Risio 522 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: now yes to home ma iCIO back bay second base, 523 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah too, hol Ronnie after a couple of games at third, 524 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: back at second, with Viando's in the lineup playing third, 525 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: And it's just it's crazy how quickly it's all happened. 526 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: Ronny Marisio from pending most of the year in the 527 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: minor league hitting the hundred seventeen point a mile and 528 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: now were double his first game or first that bad 529 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: and then now it's like whoa, this guy's guy is 530 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: one of the best hiters in the lineup. Yeah, I 531 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: mean he's just a good ballplayer. 532 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: I think they're like again, whenever we talked about Ronnie, 533 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: there was never a doubt that we thought he was 534 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: gonna be able to hit. It was just gonna be 535 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: like the consistency factor for him because of the low 536 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: walk rates, because of the chase, because of whatever it was. 537 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: But the more and more we watch this guy play, 538 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: I think you just understand he's. 539 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: Just kind of a dog. I think that's just kind 540 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: of what it is. He's that dude, and he's a 541 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: ball player. And we said a few times it did 542 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: feel a little bit like that that hit tool is 543 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: just underrated, Like yeah, probab about something like back control, 544 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: barrel control. Especially he gets his swing around the ball. 545 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: His wrists are so quick, moving through the zone like fast. 546 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: He always gets like the meadi part of the bat 547 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: on the ball, and that's like the best thing you 548 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: can do when you're going you're trying to do some damage. 549 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: And his hard hit rate finally fell below fifty percent 550 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: over this weekend. It's sitting around like forty three right 551 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: now after Sunday's game, But two more hits on Sunday 552 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: out of that two hole another RBI, Like there's a 553 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: lot of things are going well for Ryan Ratio probably 554 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: a lot better than even most of us in our 555 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: wildest dream could have expected. Especially the only concern with 556 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: him really is that chase rate and the fact that 557 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: the ball has been on the ground a lot, and 558 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: that is keeping the bower right down. But is still 559 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: no kind of sample size to judge a bower rate. 560 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: He's only put I think thirty seven thirty eight balls 561 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: to play. Won't get to probably get to about a 562 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: real sample size for that as we get through this season. 563 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: But it's just there's so many things. There's so many things, 564 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: and it's just that chase rate. And we have seen 565 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: some guys I'm gonna talk about a guy in the 566 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Reds and second like noelvi Marte. They're kind of being 567 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: built in this ilk where chasing is kind of I know, 568 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: it's got the opposite there. It's opposite that like as 569 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: long as you're not chasing, like you're gonna do everything 570 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: you can do, like to be on the to be 571 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: on the field and be productive member of the lineup. And 572 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: he's still walking a little bit more than his chase 573 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: rate with indicate right now he's chasing almost forty percent 574 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: of the time, which is very very very high number. Ronnie. Ronnie, Okay, 575 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want to talk about the NEWELVI because 576 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I think he had a good series. I think he's 577 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: a ballplayer that's also a little underrated. He saved him. 578 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: I saved him. It's like it's kind of similar to Ronnie, 579 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: where we who talk about baseball, analyzed baseball, watch a 580 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: lot of baseball, play fantasy sports, like some people with cards, 581 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: like you kind of get this prospect. What's got a 582 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: huge spider? I got it? Kill it? I got a 583 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: big spider. Keep talking, here's a Kid's an hectic episode 584 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: for the boys here, but you kind of get this 585 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: prospect fatigue with guys when you've heard about them for 586 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: a while. As Mark tries to kill this spider off camera, 587 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: he got it and dumbs up on Mark kill the spider. 588 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: But like you hear about the guy like Roni Maricio 589 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: since he was seventeen years old, you hear by the 590 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: guy like Noel Vie Marte whoep hopped off in I 591 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: think it was the FCL for the first time, but 592 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: the DSL for the first time when again he was 593 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: like seventeen years old. And then these guys are on 594 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: these prospect lists forever and people want like the instan satisfaction, 595 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: they want the gratification. They want the guy like Elie 596 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: de la Cruz who goes from an unknown prospects one 597 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: of the most electric players in baseball in eighteen months. 598 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: But not everyone's like that. How many times we say 599 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: prospect development is not linear, It's not linear in any 600 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: support watching football right now, it's a lot of guys 601 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: who you know, it happens, It happens randomly, like it 602 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: just kind of does. Look at freaking like Tyler Algieri's 603 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: he's weirdly a good running back. He knows behind b 604 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: John Robinson and Arthur Smith keeps giving him the ball. 605 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: But I digress. Besides the point, you guys don't want 606 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: you guys don't care about the fantasy teams. But that's 607 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that happened with Ronnie where 608 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: he's still only twenty two years old, he's still has 609 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: peak physical tools. Baseball Zavan still list his weight at 610 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: one sixty six. It's just simply not that way. But 611 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: that even could show you how no weight, Yeah right, 612 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: that's stupid, they say, I can show you guys, like 613 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: how long he's had profiles on these websites much longer 614 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: than a lot of players have, and like they got 615 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: updated the stuff sometimes. But there's just so many things 616 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: to like. He does so many cool things. Every single 617 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: day you watch they play two different incial positions. Pretty well. 618 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: He's hitting the ball really hard, harder than most guys 619 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: in baseball, a lot of stuff. 620 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: Ryan Rasio, Yeah, it's funny that you compare him and 621 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: Knowelvie Marte because I think they also I'm gonna look 622 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: up real quick, but like they're both guys that I 623 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: have a bunch of cards on because I've just like 624 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: been a fan of theirs ever since. They've really become 625 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: like prospects that you know of, but they're from like 626 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: Bowman like twenty nineteen, which we're talking like four or 627 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: five years ago now, and that prospect fatigue is super 628 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: super real, super like you just a guy that exists 629 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: in the minors for so long, even a guy like 630 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: Royce Lewis who didn't even have actually cause he did 631 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: have as much time. He was a number one overall pick, 632 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: so even more hype around him and you've seen him 633 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: come up with Minnesota and he's just he just might 634 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: be like a really really good player like the dude 635 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: absolutely mashes another player in this series, you noticed that 636 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: with was Hunter Green, who which really well against the 637 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: message Friday Night, a guy who was on the cover 638 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrated, which talked about school or yes. And 639 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: then the prospect fatigue happened with injuries, some in effectiveness, 640 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: but like sometimes it. 641 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Just takes guys a little while. Like we look at 642 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: some of the best pictures in baseball over the last 643 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: few years, we talk about how they got to the 644 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: spots they got to, like got like justin Verland there 645 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole, like those guys were there were top of 646 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: the draft, top of the class. Those are kind of 647 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: can't miss type of guys. But even Cole took a 648 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: minute to like it took him to Shuston gets to 649 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: that next level. Yeah, and then you look at a 650 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: guy like Max scherz Or who was in the league 651 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: for a what like six years before he really got 652 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: to that next level, Like after the Arizona his last 653 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: two years in Detroit, the whole guy quickly got Like 654 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom who was now kind of prospect had always 655 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: fallen off, but one of the best pictures last five 656 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: years Shane Bieber No kind of prospect. Look, look how 657 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: quickly he got the game good. I know we're just 658 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: talking about pictures now, not as much hitters. But it's 659 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: just it cont takes a little bit. Sometimes. It's not 660 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: like it's like I gonna be the show. He's not 661 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: like one point to average point two points for power 662 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: every year and then eventually get really good like it happens. 663 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk about nuolv Marteks. I do 664 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: think he had a really good series. He is a 665 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: guy who I think has been weirdly. He used to 666 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: be overright and now has gone to be underrated. He 667 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: put on a lot of the weight and he's become 668 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: a real, real powerful young man. Yeah, it really got 669 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: to shoulders. He's tight up there. Tight, but yeah, a 670 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of hits in this series, a lot of the 671 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: big hits too, a lot of good situational hits from him. 672 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: He had a really nice first inning RBI against Quintana 673 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday where I was just like, 674 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: you gotta put a pitch and play. It was like 675 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: it made something good happen with it. And he's hitting 676 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: the ball really hard. He's not striking out very much, 677 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: he's walking into that league average. He's chasing bed than 678 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: league average, and the Reds, I feel like, are having 679 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys come up with the same 680 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: prospect archaia hype where they have a really good sense 681 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: of the strike zone and they're able to really get 682 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: to their power when they make contact on pitches and 683 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: then you're swinging miss that's okay as long as the 684 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: pitcher whiffing at. You're taking a real hack in the zone, 685 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of a cool thing a 686 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: players development for them. 687 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian and Carnassio on STrenD you kind of gave 688 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: him the jinks before this one because I was like, ooh, 689 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: I like him. 690 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't really play that much. He struggled a 691 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: little bit. I think he had two home runs in 692 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: this series. 693 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another guy who's got like impressive power, like 694 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: really really strong, the opposite of a nouel Vie Marte 695 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: in that like he got drafted, came up real quick. Yeah, 696 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: necessarily didn't have as much hype, but was able to 697 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: build that hype through the minor leagues. 698 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: Prospects are so so weird. 699 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: I mean, even some guys on the Mets, like Alvarez 700 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: came here playing incredibly while he struggled a little bit 701 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: recently but had a great series today. Mark Viento is 702 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: a guy who we had seen in the minor leagues 703 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: for a very long time. The success hasn't necessarily shown 704 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: up at the major league level yet, but he is 705 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: still relatively young, and we saw one of his overall 706 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: better games of the season in Game three on Sunday. 707 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 708 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: I think he was what three for four with a 709 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: with an RBI and just like overall good at bats. 710 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: Stuff that is encouraging to see from someone who maybe 711 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: hasn't been on top of his game all year. 712 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we want to talk about the offense in 713 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: this game, because they Mets did put up eight runs, 714 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: had a really nice win. Alvis had an RBA double, Viento, 715 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, three hits all were put in play 716 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: over one hundred miles an hour off the bat, also 717 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: an RBI mixed in there. Vogie had a basis clearing 718 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: double to break this game open. Really nice to see 719 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: this line of being able to turn itself over and 720 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: like tack on runs and like without the home run 721 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: because it's kind of ironic and Mets have had a 722 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: lot of home runs this year, especially relatives, a lot 723 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: of that's pie Alonzo, but especially relatives. Some teams in 724 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: the league, especially relatives team last year, like they'n't put 725 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: the ball out a little bit. So nice to see 726 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: a game where almost every single star there in the 727 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: lineup except for hilariously DJ Stewart and p Alonzo had 728 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: the base hit. 729 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, go figure two of the better hitters in 730 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: this lineup right now. But we take it mess to 731 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: get a win there. And of course Hosey Kintana, let's 732 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: talk about him real quick, because I'm gonna say, I mean, 733 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: we're only gonna have like a couple more episodes where 734 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: we can say, but man, oh man, where would we 735 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: be with this guy if we had him in April? 736 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, hopefully we do next year, 737 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: like knock on wood for a nice strong offseason for Kintana. 738 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: But six innings tour and runs just keeps being like 739 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: such a steady force. You're right, three point two on 740 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the year and about four the innings now, so this 741 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: is kind of a decent sample size on them. Again, 742 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: it's not great sample size the VRA. There were a 743 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of Era debates on Twitter this week because a 744 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of the cy Young race the National leaguees become 745 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: incredibly contentious and with another not so good star for 746 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Justin Steele, really good star for Blake's now more good 747 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: stars from Code saying a logan web storming up, storming 748 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: up the rear right now late, it's it's like nine 749 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: guys who can win this award. Mike Petreella wrote a 750 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: really good article about that one friend of the podcast. 751 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: Friend of the podcast a recurring guest over the weekend. 752 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: But it's a lot of people debating, you know, between 753 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: the wars on different sides and how special e RA is. 754 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who believe like e RA 755 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: should be the be all and the end all for 756 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: the sight young kinds, because it's always been a lot 757 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: of other people who really think el right is actually 758 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: a useless stat because really just it's really just team context. 759 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: You're just taking like innings and runs and you're dividing 760 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: it's like as an accounting measure, and it's really just 761 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: more about situations defense, like a lot of things that 762 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: really out of the pictures control or helping e RA. 763 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool to read this stuff 764 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: you guys check out on Twitter, like Nick Pollock's been 765 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: talking a lot about from Pictureless. You know, sarahs Tom Tango, 766 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: who's like one of the fathers to Tango, that's one 767 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: of the fathers of Milne saber metrics. Tom Tango's his beast. 768 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: He's you guys. If you guys are just in baseball sabermetrics, 769 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: you follow Tom Tangle and read some of this stuff. 770 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: It's like you put your name, like your first name 771 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: and your last name and like the Wu Tang generator, 772 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: and they're like, Tom Tango. 773 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Is what came out? I know honestly, maybe like maybe 774 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: it's a fake name, Like maybe it's just like maybe 775 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: it's just a pseudon hym for for his like end 776 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: like personality. Maybe he's just like Tom Jones out and 777 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: now in the world found out over the weekend. Like again, 778 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: this is just me being stupid. At Leasha Keys is 779 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: not a leash a Keys, Like, of course not what Yeah, 780 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: her name's not Keys, No way, I'm looking this. I 781 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: got so deep in Wikipedia on Wednesday night. I guarantee it. 782 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: Alicia Cook Yep, Wow, it's a it's another really normal 783 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: last name. Yes, I guess Alica because she played the 784 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: piano Keys. 785 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Or she's proligy young young piano prodigy Lisia Keys and 786 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Alicia Keys's voice of an angel as good of a 787 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: stage name as you could ever find. If anyone out 788 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: there ever listens to like the NPR Tiny Desk concerts, 789 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: she probably is the best one of all time. It's 790 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: you'll be transcended. Incredible talent. Also married to Swiss beats, Yes, 791 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: imagine the music that creating that family. And also New 792 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: York City kid Lisha Keys born Hell's Kitchen, Yeah, oh wow, 793 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Hell's Kitchen. That's an interesting place to grow up. Yeah 794 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Yeah, But back to baseball. Only a 795 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: couple of things wrapped this game up. In this series 796 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: in general, Jeff Brigup has not been good as he 797 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: game back up, So I had this for a couple 798 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: of that one month, guys, April, Wow, Jeff Brigup man, 799 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: was that fun? And something else interesting to happen in 800 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: this game was was it ninth time this year where 801 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: the Mets did not throw a pitch over ninety five 802 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: miles an hour? Huh? Yeah? And they and there are 803 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: seven other times we threw one single pitch over ninety 804 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: five in a game. It's a frustrating thing. Yeah, it's 805 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: a frustrating thing. And I feel like that's probably gonna 806 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: be a point of emphasis this offseason. 807 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: I have to guess, definitely, without a doubt. I mean, 808 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: get get some arms in there that got a little 809 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: little juice behind it. I'm sure they were also, you know, 810 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: really relying on one particularly big. 811 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Arm to be in there throwing a little bit harder. 812 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz and also the guy that me and you 813 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: I'll still never forget that night at Jack Dempsey's in 814 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: Midtown where we were just like we were having one 815 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: of our late night rendezvous drinking at Jack Dempsey's and 816 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: going through the Mets roster. I'm like, man, I really 817 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: think Bryce Montstoaka could be that guy. 818 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean maybe next year, maybe next year, all of them. 819 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Mister Bedner, we're talking a lot about Edwin Diaz and 820 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: like to like how to make a good reliever because 821 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: thinking if you guys have seen David Bednar probably on TV, 822 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: he's not doesn't really have the body shape like an 823 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the lead pitcher like Edward Diaz. Da've been no dog. Yeah, 824 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: be a grateful back. He was. I think he was 825 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: high school linebacker. Almost positive in it makes sense. But yeah, 826 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: just like talking about like how like results was over 827 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: the last two years. These are two of the best 828 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: relievers in baseball, and that they're completely different, even like 829 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: comparing the clay because I got a class as the 830 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: two seamer, Dave has the four seamer, like DZ has 831 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: a sly there. It's just it's funny to make a 832 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: reliever like to hear a dad who was a high 833 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: school baseball coach and like as his kids are both professionals, 834 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: just be able to talk about this stuff was really conversation. 835 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: He also took my number. He said, Hey, I'm in 836 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: New York. Next year, we're hanging out. We have had 837 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: a great we had a great time again. I'm like, 838 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: mister Bednar, I promise we will. Yeah, they'll ask me 839 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: twice a d deal of hu Zach. Oh my god, 840 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. But that's wrapped up the series. Mets 841 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: lost two out of three from Reds team that is 842 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: on the doorstep of the playoffs. And but Devil's advocate, 843 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: if we're gonna lose two out of three of any 844 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: of these series the rest of the year, I prefer 845 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: to be this one because I want this America's team. 846 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: I want this red team in the playoffs. They deserve it. Yeah, 847 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: they're America's team. I'm rooting for the Reds. 848 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Good friend Sammy Hope, hope he get to see them 849 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: in the playoffs if they play, if they play a 850 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: home game, or if they're in the playoffs and playing, 851 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going to see some Reds games. 852 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna be fun. Yeah, sure, I'm into I'm doing 853 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: this podcast. My buddy reads girlfriend's apartment. He's also a 854 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: big Reds fan. So should I read on the other 855 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: side of watching red Zone? He can, he can come 856 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: to the game with us. Yeah, he's in totally and 857 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: we'd love he'd love to. 858 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: Now to bring in mister John Barren for the estimate. 859 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: We haven't done an estimate in a minute. 860 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: John's been a little busy. 861 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: We've been kind of all over the place with our 862 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: travel schedules as well. John, what's going on rocking the 863 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: Indiana Proud today? 864 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm reminding James because it has been a while 865 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: to them. 866 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Did Indiana win on Saturday? So they played Blueville's Oneful 867 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: Heartbreaker lost. 868 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: The break Heartbreakers played the goal line, fourth down stand 869 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: by Louisville. It'll happen covered covered second time they've done that. Actually, 870 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: they've covered all three games spread this years a matter 871 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: of fact. So but yeah, James, you're still going to 872 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: have your time in the sun with the water. Next 873 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,239 Speaker 3: time we see you. It'll be night. 874 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: That's gonna suck neanks Thursday now it'll be all right. 875 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do the jersey and the water 876 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: they're the same time. So Thursday, September twenty eighth. 877 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: Two Birds with one Stone. 878 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: I like that. Wait, do just play that night? Is 879 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: that to just Thursday night? Oh? I think it might be. 880 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: No, the Giants played Thursday night this week? Oh that's 881 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: the next. No, No, the next two weeks. 882 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: No, I think just the Jets Broncos a Thursday night game, 883 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: which think is the week after. I'm just gonna look 884 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: yeah for you real quick. I know the Jets played 885 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots next. You're fine. They got the Chiefs October first. 886 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's bad. 887 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: Thank Gosh for Indiana football. 888 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Thank God for football. 889 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: Is right, that's enough Indiana football talk. By the way, 890 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: I joined you guys late. I don't know if you 891 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: said this Mets starters last twelve games two one four 892 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: starting lights out for the Mets. So, uh, something you 893 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: like to see anyway, Mets Marlin's coming up next. It's 894 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: been a while, Marlins are in the thick of it, right, 895 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: John's Marlins, John's Marlins, John's Fish. I mean yeah, So 896 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: for anyone that is confused. Earlier, before the year started, 897 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: I told these guys I liked what Miami did in 898 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: the off season. Everyone laughed at me, called me crazy. 899 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: So you know whatever. 900 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you guys a question right now, can 901 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: you guess the date the last time the Mets played 902 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: the Marlins. 903 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: It was in April? 904 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Tell me April. Yeah, it was April ninth. 905 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mets opened at home again against me. 906 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I was wearing a tuxedo. Yeah. I 907 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: played their. 908 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: First four in Miami, and then Jakes Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 909 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: that's right, you did, and John John. 910 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't here for the last one. 911 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, jameson next time we'll play the Marlins, Aaron Rodgers 912 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: will have ten touchdowns. 913 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: That's right. 914 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: You absolutely brought Rogers up. 915 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 916 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was pretty bad, pretty awful. Well, anyway, 917 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here watching them right now, so no spoilers. 918 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm on Fubo a little bit behind, so yeah, fubo. Anyway, 919 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: So Mets Marlins, Luisa ries one hitch ey of two 920 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: hundred do that obviously puts. 921 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: The ball and play a. 922 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: Lot, doesn't swing and miss a lot. Did I say 923 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 3: two hundred to one hundred? Let me start two hundred 924 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't swing and miss much at all. 925 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: So for the estimate here, I want you guys to 926 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: tell me how many times does Mets pitching get Luisa 927 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: Rise to swing and miss. 928 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a tough one. He he, He's 929 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: Also he doesn't walk, so he doesn't see a lot 930 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: of pitches. Three home his last ten at bats over 931 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: the weekend, which is crazy. Does this he did that? 932 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: Louis Rise only twenty six? Yeah, dude, I like I 933 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: great trade on both sides. Trade twins won the trade, 934 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 2: but trade probably man. Louise Rise swings and misses against 935 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: the mess has not swung and miss much this year, 936 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 937 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: He's faced twenty one hundred pitches and he's swung and 938 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: missed eight percent of the time. That's insane. 939 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: So you kind of just gotta try and figure out 940 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: how many pitches you think he's gonna see. 941 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of all right, he's gonna he's gonna see code. 942 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Who's the Mets best wift artist? Yeah, we go this. 943 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: I got to write down some numbers. I don't have 944 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: a I don't know where my whiteboard's at. This is 945 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: great podcasting yet again, No. 946 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: I mean not out. But before we do it, I'll 947 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: give you guys the Mets pitching matchups this series against 948 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: the Marlins Monday. These are all six forty star times 949 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: as well, so everyone be ready for six to forty 950 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: star times. You think it's seven ten, you're gonna miss 951 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: the first ending and a half. But Monday night, Jose 952 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Budo the snd in Jose Buddo against Braxton Garrett. Tuesday 953 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: six forty Joey Lukes against Yuri Perez. That's the guy 954 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: who I think we're gonna be highlighting as we get 955 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: through this episode. And then Wednesday six to four the 956 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: FS one code I sang of versus the uh yeah, 957 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the ageless Johnny Quadough. 958 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: Johnny Quado, can't believe he's still kicking around. All right, 959 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: I got my answer. You got yours, James, as I do. Okay, 960 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: John counts down? 961 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 3: All right, here we go three two one four? 962 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: Wow, I had four. 963 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: I ran the numbers I saw. I thought forty five 964 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: pitches eight percent three point six. Four's round up five 965 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: because code I sang. 966 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Is pitching nice. I also have a two game lead 967 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: and this four series left, so a win beer would 968 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: guarantee me a high dormy. You'd be dormy if you 969 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: get a win here. 970 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Mark, are the Are the Commies winning tonight? 971 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: No? No, they're bad. Ron Ryer is a bad coach. 972 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: The Commy's never winned this country. John, Yeah, don't you 973 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: know that? 974 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: Fair enough? Guys, all right, I'll see you guys later. James, 975 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 3: looking forward to our next encounter. 976 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Poor poor bottles of smart weather. I'm ahead, it'd be great. Thanks, 977 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: we'll catch up the stadium pod. 978 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: Guys. 979 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: All right, to wrap this one up here. 980 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: Like you said, we haven't seen the Marlins in a minute, 981 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: and it is a little bit different than we thought 982 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: they were gonna look like when we. 983 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: Were kind of a different end the same. No, well, 984 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: we thought that. 985 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: The roster was going to be different because they were 986 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: going to be getting rid of people instead their roster 987 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: is different because they've added people. They've added Jake Berger, 988 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: who's been I think pretty good with them. 989 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 1: Yep. 990 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: He's just hits the ball hard. We've talked about him before. 991 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: Just a hard hit, barrel guy. That's pretty much all 992 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 2: he does. I've also added Josh Bell, who he knows 993 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: a bit of a met killer, and he's been playing 994 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 2: a lot better in Miami than he was in Cleveland 995 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: this year. 996 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hey, someone's get of Ohio. Things things 997 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: wind up well for you. And they've also called up 998 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: super prospect Ury Perez, who the Mets are going to 999 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: see in the series. And Uri Perez, I'm not gonna 1000 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: use any of these terms lightly. It is probably the 1001 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: most exciting pitching prospect, especially when you consider age to 1002 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: level and stuff that we've seen since. Hey bring us up. 1003 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: But you know who it is, Jose Fernandez. Yep, he 1004 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: genuinely is. And it's a little bit of irony, is 1005 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: probably a little bit poetic else that's happening in Miami again. 1006 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: But Uripere is twenty eight years old at six foot eighty. 1007 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous. Right now, he has a three ERA, 1008 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: he's striking out thirty percent of the batters he's phase 1009 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: and will only walking eight percent of them. His fastball 1010 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: is electric, his slitherer has a fifty to forty seven 1011 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: percent with fright. His curve ball is a fifty five 1012 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: percent with frate. His change up has a forty six 1013 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: percent with Fright. The guy is absolutely completely unhittable, and 1014 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: he is again twenty years old, doing this right now 1015 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: in the bayjar League level. 1016 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: No, he's extremely talented. One of those few guys you 1017 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: always like to say pitching prospects are fake. 1018 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: Is guy's he? Not him? Not him, He's only he's 1019 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: the only real pitching prospect. Again, we'd like that been 1020 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: like this. It's kind of like this phenom type thing 1021 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: in about a decades since Jose. 1022 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. He's extremely talented. Mets fans, again, you 1023 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 2: should be glued to the tv for that one. Worth watching. 1024 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: Euripez just go out there and throw someone we're gonna 1025 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 2: see for a very very long time, probably on the Marlins. Also, well, homecoming, 1026 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: well not a home coomany, he's not coming home just yet. 1027 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: But David robertson coming back to play the Mets. He's 1028 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: been doing his best. Jason Vargus impression with the with 1029 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: the Phillies and the Marlins where he is pitching just 1030 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: about as bad as he possibly can. 1031 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: That's not great. Yeah, it looks it looks not so 1032 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: great right now. And also someone who has looked great 1033 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: after being on the shelf with the injury for a while, 1034 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: jas Chislm has had a crazy two weeks over here 1035 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: and he's coming in actually. Also remember this also could 1036 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: tell you how long it's been since he saw them. 1037 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: Remember when Jazz Chisholm was like incapable playing center field 1038 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: in April when he only played there like nine games. Well, now, yeah, 1039 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: he's an amazing center fielder now, which like what when 1040 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: did the how did that happen? How do you just 1041 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: get better at center field having never played? It seems 1042 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: really solid. We got to miss the whole Luis a 1043 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: Rise four hundred drama because not even close to that anymore. 1044 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: Like he's pulled the nose up a little bit. He 1045 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: actually might lead the league in batting after like a 1046 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: pretty bad six weeks for holding off Freddy Freeman kind 1047 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: of well, and mentioned Jake Berger at Jake Berger. We've 1048 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: heard also great things from a lot of trusted league 1049 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: sources that he's just a heck of a clubhouse guy. 1050 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: People love him in the locker room. He just kind 1051 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: of looks like a fun dude. 1052 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: You know. 1053 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: He's got like the body type of someone who have 1054 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: a good sense of humor. He gets the ball really hard. 1055 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: It just seems like a vibe he's dus. Sanchez Brian 1056 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: de la Cruz have not had great second hands. I'm 1057 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: sure they'renna kill the Mets, because they always do. John 1058 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: Burley is going to get on the field and do 1059 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: something awful to us, There's no doubt about it. Joey 1060 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: Wendell yeh got this team and we're missing Hazles Czar though, 1061 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: and Edward Cabrera this series, who've been pretty electric for 1062 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: this team overall. Edward Cobrera just came back from rotation 1063 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: last week and had a really nice start. Lazarre, though, 1064 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: another one of John's guys, had a very good season. 1065 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: I think it's probably not as good as he could 1066 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: have been. There's still a lot more you can do. 1067 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: People will see the three eight Era and Scott Fitt 1068 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: that be like, oh, you think it was a good 1069 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: season three ad ther, but it's got down the walks 1070 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: he gets lost strikeouts the first time he's had a full, complete, 1071 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: healthy season, which is a really good step in the 1072 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: right direction for a guy who's was a super prospect 1073 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: and had like a lot of ups and downs last 1074 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: few years. It's kind of we're talking about kind of 1075 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: theme this whole episode. You know, got twenty five years old. 1076 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: It finally has first like really good season happens like that. Yeah, 1077 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: And I mean these are massive, massive games for the Marlins. 1078 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: Right now, at the time of recording Sunday six o'clock, 1079 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: Miami is technically in the playoffs. They're tied for that 1080 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: last wild card spot with the Arizona Diamondbacks at a 1081 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: seventy eight and seventy two record. 1082 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: Diamondbacks have a game tonight against the Cubs. That's gonna 1083 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: be huge for them as well, because they're half a 1084 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: game behind the Cubs. So these are teams that need 1085 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 2: to win these games. The Marlins, you're gonna see quick hooks, 1086 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: You're gonna see guys being moved around. You're gonna be 1087 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 2: seeing them playing this game like it's a playoff game. 1088 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: And I'd love nothing. 1089 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: More than to knock the Marlins out of the playoffs. 1090 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: So it would be just be chef's kiss. It would 1091 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: be amazing. Yeah, just for John too. I don't really 1092 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: want to see that. I don't really want to see 1093 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: one over on us. No, I can't. 1094 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: I can't let him think he was right. I don't 1095 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: think he was right in what he said, but he's 1096 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 2: right in the execution, unfortunately. And that's just it's kind 1097 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: of how John rolls a little bit for us. I mean, yeah, brooken, 1098 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: Clock's always gonna be right twice a day. 1099 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one of those times. 1100 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: But hopefully we can make sure that John can't be right, 1101 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: and if there's any Mets people out there, get that 1102 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: win for us. So John can be wrong. We know 1103 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: you'll appreciate that too. Otherwise, you got anything else to 1104 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: talk about? 1105 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: Here? Wrap it up. I think we're good. 1106 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up here. Guys, Thank you so much 1107 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: for listening and watching. Make sure you follow us on 1108 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: all our social media at Mets up on Twitter, Instagram, 1109 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 2: and TikTok. Subscribe to the New York Mets YouTube channel 1110 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: so you can see the video version of this. And 1111 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 2: if you're listening to us at podcast Spotify, Google Odyssey 1112 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: drops a rating, drop us a review, download, and subscribe. 1113 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: We do appreciate all you guys hanging out and listening 1114 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 2: with us through the end of the season. James, what's 1115 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 2: your Twitter? 1116 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: James Underscore, Shiano and me jiraffneckmark with us C. Thank 1117 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: you guys for listening and watching. We'll catch you after 1118 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: the Marlin series. Peace Out, peace out, See you guys 1119 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: next time.